[Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
I just bought one yesterday thought maybe it might be helpful around the ranch. Big buck taxes, cheap IOW. Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have got to get totally, downright brutal with it to even think about starting the fire that makes these things work like a cutting torch, I managed it for about 1/2 going thru a 1x2 bar standing on edge, but the fire was so poorly air fed the sparks were bouncing off the garage wall 8 feet away, potentially falling into the dust tinderbox behind my 12 chop saw. So reverting to abrasive only cutting, it took me about 20 minutes for one cut. Not at all a tool suitable for the job. Once the fire was started, it should have totally consumed all the iron flowing out of the cut in less that 18 from the back of the cut. I have seen these things work, first time in about 1948. With the 9 blade spinning right at its max rpms, close to 15k, it was dropping thru a 1.5 square mount spud that was no longer needed for an eyeglass lens grinding machine, with about a 1 hp motor spinning it, took 3 or 4 secs to start the fire just fell thru that 1.25 square stud in the next 10 seconds, making a very clean cut. This is a pure crap tool. Look for one that spins that 14 wheel at least 5.2k rpms, and has enough cage around it to safely let it blow up. This piece of tinfoil might stop one exploding blade. Emphasis on the might. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
Hi Gene, I have no knowledge of that particular saw. I have an old 14 Black and Decker chop saw and it has worked well for me for years. The trick I found is to get the right abrasive blades for it. Some are pure crap. Typically, the cheap ones are junk. Once I figured out which ones ran the best, I bought a bunch of them. Since then, I acquired a bandsaw which work well for heavy steel, but still, the chop saw is valuable for hardened steel or cutting hydraulic hose. But there is nothing tidy about a chop saw. They are brutal, brute force, screaming machines. Hearing protection is recommended. If I need to use it for more than a simple, short duration cut, I take the saw outside and point it at something non-flammable. Wearing gloves is also a good idea as the material being cut becomes hot and sharp edged.. Dave On 2/14/2014 2:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just bought one yesterday thought maybe it might be helpful around the ranch. Big buck taxes, cheap IOW. Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have got to get totally, downright brutal with it to even think about starting the fire that makes these things work like a cutting torch, I managed it for about 1/2 going thru a 1x2 bar standing on edge, but the fire was so poorly air fed the sparks were bouncing off the garage wall 8 feet away, potentially falling into the dust tinderbox behind my 12 chop saw. So reverting to abrasive only cutting, it took me about 20 minutes for one cut. Not at all a tool suitable for the job. Once the fire was started, it should have totally consumed all the iron flowing out of the cut in less that 18 from the back of the cut. I have seen these things work, first time in about 1948. With the 9 blade spinning right at its max rpms, close to 15k, it was dropping thru a 1.5 square mount spud that was no longer needed for an eyeglass lens grinding machine, with about a 1 hp motor spinning it, took 3 or 4 secs to start the fire just fell thru that 1.25 square stud in the next 10 seconds, making a very clean cut. This is a pure crap tool. Look for one that spins that 14 wheel at least 5.2k rpms, and has enough cage around it to safely let it blow up. This piece of tinfoil might stop one exploding blade. Emphasis on the might. Cheers, Gene -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
Never met an abrasive chop saw I liked. Even the better ones are no fun to use. I'll take a bandsaw any day...Kawasaki is just another off branded chinese POS as far as I have seen. Peace Pete On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gene, I have no knowledge of that particular saw. I have an old 14 Black and Decker chop saw and it has worked well for me for years. The trick I found is to get the right abrasive blades for it. Some are pure crap. Typically, the cheap ones are junk. Once I figured out which ones ran the best, I bought a bunch of them. Since then, I acquired a bandsaw which work well for heavy steel, but still, the chop saw is valuable for hardened steel or cutting hydraulic hose. But there is nothing tidy about a chop saw. They are brutal, brute force, screaming machines. Hearing protection is recommended. If I need to use it for more than a simple, short duration cut, I take the saw outside and point it at something non-flammable. Wearing gloves is also a good idea as the material being cut becomes hot and sharp edged.. Dave On 2/14/2014 2:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just bought one yesterday thought maybe it might be helpful around the ranch. Big buck taxes, cheap IOW. Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have got to get totally, downright brutal with it to even think about starting the fire that makes these things work like a cutting torch, I managed it for about 1/2 going thru a 1x2 bar standing on edge, but the fire was so poorly air fed the sparks were bouncing off the garage wall 8 feet away, potentially falling into the dust tinderbox behind my 12 chop saw. So reverting to abrasive only cutting, it took me about 20 minutes for one cut. Not at all a tool suitable for the job. Once the fire was started, it should have totally consumed all the iron flowing out of the cut in less that 18 from the back of the cut. I have seen these things work, first time in about 1948. With the 9 blade spinning right at its max rpms, close to 15k, it was dropping thru a 1.5 square mount spud that was no longer needed for an eyeglass lens grinding machine, with about a 1 hp motor spinning it, took 3 or 4 secs to start the fire just fell thru that 1.25 square stud in the next 10 seconds, making a very clean cut. This is a pure crap tool. Look for one that spins that 14 wheel at least 5.2k rpms, and has enough cage around it to safely let it blow up. This piece of tinfoil might stop one exploding blade. Emphasis on the might. Cheers, Gene -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
On 14 February 2014 20:07, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Kawasaki is just another off branded chinese POS as far as I have seen. I guess they have no connection to the company that makes the motorcycles or Boeing fuselages then. Steelwork companies who cut a lot of sections seem to use slow-speed HSS blades (or plasma) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
Gene, You might want to try and take that saw back to TSC. I've seen some beat up machines in their clearance aisle that must be the result of returns. Dave On 2/14/2014 2:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just bought one yesterday thought maybe it might be helpful around the ranch. Big buck taxes, cheap IOW. Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have got to get totally, downright brutal with it to even think about starting the fire that makes these things work like a cutting torch, I managed it for about 1/2 going thru a 1x2 bar standing on edge, but the fire was so poorly air fed the sparks were bouncing off the garage wall 8 feet away, potentially falling into the dust tinderbox behind my 12 chop saw. So reverting to abrasive only cutting, it took me about 20 minutes for one cut. Not at all a tool suitable for the job. Once the fire was started, it should have totally consumed all the iron flowing out of the cut in less that 18 from the back of the cut. I have seen these things work, first time in about 1948. With the 9 blade spinning right at its max rpms, close to 15k, it was dropping thru a 1.5 square mount spud that was no longer needed for an eyeglass lens grinding machine, with about a 1 hp motor spinning it, took 3 or 4 secs to start the fire just fell thru that 1.25 square stud in the next 10 seconds, making a very clean cut. This is a pure crap tool. Look for one that spins that 14 wheel at least 5.2k rpms, and has enough cage around it to safely let it blow up. This piece of tinfoil might stop one exploding blade. Emphasis on the might. Cheers, Gene -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have Internet reviews are good, but there are some saying that the supplied blade is hopeless. Might be worth trying a different blade. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] countersink.py problem
Greetings; I didn't look to see whose code that is, but I made several passes at trying to use it to bore a hole .7 deep in a 1 piece of steel this afternoon, and cannot make sense out of what its giving me. I specced a .250 diameter mill, feedrate of 8, depth increment of .015, a stepover of 25%, 2000 rpm, no bolt size but an .850 pocket .700 deep in those 2 boxes in the lower left corner. It gave me a pocket diameter of .650, several times. So I added the missing .2 to the pocket size, (lower left corner of its window) bringing that up to 1.05, which in fact gave me code that would have gnawed a pocket 1.05 in diameter. So why do I get the wrong answer when I give it .85? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
On Friday 14 February 2014 19:49:26 Dave Cole did opine: Hi Gene, I have no knowledge of that particular saw. I have an old 14 Black and Decker chop saw and it has worked well for me for years. The trick I found is to get the right abrasive blades for it. Some are pure crap. Typically, the cheap ones are junk. Once I figured out which ones ran the best, I bought a bunch of them. Since then, I acquired a bandsaw which work well for heavy steel, but still, the chop saw is valuable for hardened steel or cutting hydraulic hose. But there is nothing tidy about a chop saw. They are brutal, brute force, screaming machines. Done right, they aren't that noisy. A well dressed wheel, turning within 5% of its rated max speed, is surprisingly quiet. Once the fire is going, you can hear the rumble of the fire over the saw IF the saw is a decent one. It resembles the rumble of one of those fan-jet k2 heaters but 25 db quieter. Hearing protection is recommended. If I had any hearing left to protect, but the 31 db shooting muffs are in the truck my knee was starting to complain already. If I need to use it for more than a simple, short duration cut, I take the saw outside and point it at something non-flammable. Summertime, not a bad idea, like green grass 10 feet away. Wearing gloves is also a good idea as the material being cut becomes hot and sharp edged.. Dave Well, a handy pair of vice grips and the snow bank outside the back door made short work of that problem. :) Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
This ads yet another confirmation to my long-held opinion (based on personal experience) that there's no such thing as a cheap tool. Buy cheap, buy more than once and so on. Having said that, I've often acquired expensive tools in sales. I love *real* bargains (not the el-cheapo sort, see above). Cheers, Alex. On 15 Feb 2014, at 10:38 am, Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have Internet reviews are good, but there are some saying that the supplied blade is hopeless. Might be worth trying a different blade. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
On Friday 14 February 2014 19:59:07 andy pugh did opine: On 14 February 2014 20:07, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Kawasaki is just another off branded chinese POS as far as I have seen. I guess they have no connection to the company that makes the motorcycles or Boeing fuselages then. Steelwork companies who cut a lot of sections seem to use slow-speed HSS blades (or plasma) Chuckle, story time with that remark fellows. My stepfather worked at Solar MFG in Des Moines for a while after the war (WW-II) up till '56 or so, wound up in the tool die shop. Cutting up some titanium one day, he broke the last saw blade in the tool crib. That saw actually worked a lot like a modern abrasive chop saw but had semi-hard teeth whose main job was to generate friction and carry air at high speed into the cut, with blade speeds in the 10,000 fpm region. Looking around, he spotted a barrel of steel shipping strap about an inch wide, grabbed a piece, cut it to the length of the broken blade and welded it right on the saw's own built in blade welder. He finished out the his shift, cutting pieces at about 75% of the normal cutting speed, and only had to weld up one more blade to finish his shift. He had to do the same thing on Monday, till a carton of regular blades showed up about noonish. They cut faster, but only because the teeth carried more air. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8eRPGHUC58 Only big enough to cut damned near anything. I believe he said its wheels were about 36 in diameter. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Heads up on TSC's Kawasaki 14 abrasive chop saw.
On Friday 14 February 2014 20:25:55 Andy Pugh did opine: Don't waste your money on it, the blade only spins 2800 rpms, and you have Internet reviews are good, but there are some saying that the supplied blade is hopeless. Might be worth trying a different blade. No blade is going to work well when its turning half its blowup speed, not in that sort of service. Once you get the fire really started, actual blade wear is minimal, its only duty is to carry a fresh supply of oxygen to the cutting face. --- --- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.cl ktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] countersink.py problem
Hey Gene, I don't have a specific answer to your question, but I can say that in general, I've had similar mysteries when using the various Python code to generate G code. They're handy little routines, but they seem not quite ready for prime time.Thankfully, LinuxCNC does a great job of previewing the tool path to catch the gross G code errors. I believe that some of these bits of Python code generate different results depending on the order the input values are supplied on the data entry form. I think they might be calculating intermediate results as the data is entered? Or maybe there is a problem with updating internal variables as the form is completed? I'll often give up and use the faulty G code that it produces as a template and do a little math and edit the G code manually to produce the desired tool path. Most of my jobs are fairly simple and these little Python routines would be ideal for me to use. Even in their current form, they're fairly useful. It's amazing how quickly fairly complex G code programs can be created just by stringing together G code snippets from these wizards. For me, it'd be quicker than CAD/CAM given that I seldom need complex path 3D contour machining. It's a shame these routines aren't bulletproof. Being open source, if I think they should be improved, it's incumbent upon me to improve them, but unfortunately, even though I'm a protocol droid and I'm fluent in over six million forms of communication, I don't speak Python. Kudos to whoever made it so opening Python code in LinuxCNC runs the code in a window. That's almost as cool as built-in G code wizards. Bruce On 02/14/2014 07:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I didn't look to see whose code that is, but I made several passes at trying to use it to bore a hole .7 deep in a 1 piece of steel this afternoon, and cannot make sense out of what its giving me. I specced a .250 diameter mill, feedrate of 8, depth increment of .015, a stepover of 25%, 2000 rpm, no bolt size but an .850 pocket .700 deep in those 2 boxes in the lower left corner. It gave me a pocket diameter of .650, several times. So I added the missing .2 to the pocket size, (lower left corner of its window) bringing that up to 1.05, which in fact gave me code that would have gnawed a pocket 1.05 in diameter. So why do I get the wrong answer when I give it .85? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] countersink.py problem
On 2/14/2014 8:09 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: I believe that some of these bits of Python code generate different results depending on the order the input values are supplied on the data entry form. I think they might be calculating intermediate results as the data is entered? Or maybe there is a problem with updating internal variables as the form is completed? Not that this is the problem, but I've had a horrible time with Python and floating point numbers. Python is always wanting to default to integers, and frequently truncates intermediate results to integers causing subtle issues with the resulting output that leaves me head-scratching for a while. I think _every_ bit of python code I've worked with has had this issue at least once... -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] countersink.py problem
On Friday 14 February 2014 22:00:33 Bruce Layne did opine: Hey Gene, I don't have a specific answer to your question, but I can say that in general, I've had similar mysteries when using the various Python code to generate G code. They're handy little routines, but they seem not quite ready for prime time.Thankfully, LinuxCNC does a great job of previewing the tool path to catch the gross G code errors. I believe that some of these bits of Python code generate different results depending on the order the input values are supplied on the data entry form. I think they might be calculating intermediate results as the data is entered? Or maybe there is a problem with updating internal variables as the form is completed? I'll often give up and use the faulty G code that it produces as a template and do a little math and edit the G code manually to produce the desired tool path. Most of my jobs are fairly simple and these little Python routines would be ideal for me to use. Even in their current form, they're fairly useful. It's amazing how quickly fairly complex G code programs can be created just by stringing together G code snippets from these wizards. For me, it'd be quicker than CAD/CAM given that I seldom need complex path 3D contour machining. It's a shame these routines aren't bulletproof. Being open source, if I think they should be improved, it's incumbent upon me to improve them, but unfortunately, even though I'm a protocol droid and I'm fluent in over six million forms of communication, I don't speak Python. Kudos to whoever made it so opening Python code in LinuxCNC runs the code in a window. That's almost as cool as built-in G code wizards. Bruce I considered editing the output with gedit's global replace utility, but thats well over 7k LOC. I'd druther just feed it bogus data and generate the correct code. But you are correct, that size and depth were the last 2 entries I made, I'll try inverting the order if the weather is fit tomorrow. They are threatening us AGAIN! Coming in from the NW of us this time. If I thought I had snowballs chance of swapping this for someplace wayyy south but still 100' ASL, I be studying real estate adds. All I'm doing this winter so far is eating, gaining weight I don't need, and sitting around stiffening up. Too many miles on this old carcass already. On 02/14/2014 07:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I didn't look to see whose code that is, but I made several passes at trying to use it to bore a hole .7 deep in a 1 piece of steel this afternoon, and cannot make sense out of what its giving me. I specced a .250 diameter mill, feedrate of 8, depth increment of .015, a stepover of 25%, 2000 rpm, no bolt size but an .850 pocket .700 deep in those 2 boxes in the lower left corner. It gave me a pocket diameter of .650, several times. So I added the missing .2 to the pocket size, (lower left corner of its window) bringing that up to 1.05, which in fact gave me code that would have gnawed a pocket 1.05 in diameter. So why do I get the wrong answer when I give it .85? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.cl ktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] off sub geography
gene stated If I thought I had snowballs chance of swapping this for someplace wayyy south but still 100' ASL, I be studying real estate adds. All I'm doing this winter so far is eating, gaining weight I don't need, and sitting around stiffening up. Too many miles on this old carcass already. i like south central mo myself . im looking forward to finally getting back to my 17 acres there. as this 2 yrs helping dad in upstate has really made me see why i left 20 yrs ago jeremy youngs -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography
On Saturday 15 February 2014 00:29:44 jeremy youngs did opine: gene stated If I thought I had snowballs chance of swapping this for someplace wayyy south but still 100' ASL, I be studying real estate adds. All I'm doing this winter so far is eating, gaining weight I don't need, and sitting around stiffening up. Too many miles on this old carcass already. i like south central mo myself . im looking forward to finally getting back to my 17 acres there. as this 2 yrs helping dad in upstate has really made me see why i left 20 yrs ago jeremy youngs I've seen that country, but it was 65 years ago. I hope its still as pretty as it was then. I think our Big John Thornton is someplace in that neck of the woods too. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography
On 02/14/2014 11:33 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2014 00:29:44 jeremy youngs did opine: i like south central mo myself . im looking forward to finally getting back to my 17 acres there. as this 2 yrs helping dad in upstate has really made me see why i left 20 yrs ago jeremy youngs I've seen that country, but it was 65 years ago. I hope its still as pretty as it was then. My friend has a cabin inside the Ozark National Scenic Riverways on the Current River (his grandfather built it in 1931). It is STILL very beautiful there! We usually get out there for a week every summer. We picked a bad week in 2013, and got 15.6 inches of rain in 5 days. The river was AMAZING, looked almost like Niagara falls, compared to the normal little stream that is the upper Current River. If you are interested, here's a 4 second clip : http://pico-systems.com/images/cabin/100_6558.MOV Jon -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography
On Saturday 15 February 2014 01:08:56 Jon Elson did opine: On 02/14/2014 11:33 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2014 00:29:44 jeremy youngs did opine: i like south central mo myself . im looking forward to finally getting back to my 17 acres there. as this 2 yrs helping dad in upstate has really made me see why i left 20 yrs ago jeremy youngs I've seen that country, but it was 65 years ago. I hope its still as pretty as it was then. My friend has a cabin inside the Ozark National Scenic Riverways on the Current River (his grandfather built it in 1931). It is STILL very beautiful there! We usually get out there for a week every summer. We picked a bad week in 2013, and got 15.6 inches of rain in 5 days. The river was AMAZING, looked almost like Niagara falls, compared to the normal little stream that is the upper Current River. If you are interested, here's a 4 second clip : http://pico-systems.com/images/cabin/100_6558.MOV Jon All I got was audio, probably my fault, but that river was sure letting you know it was there! -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.cl ktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users