Re: [Emc-users] Custom Cast Iron castings

2023-04-03 Thread Chris Albertson
If you can print the pattern and supply it to the foundry, the cost will be
low.  But you should talk to the foundry about how to make the pattern.
Some patterns will warp as they cool.  I think it has to do with the part's
thickness, or rather if there are thick and thin parts in the same
pattern.  Also, some patterns will shrink as they cool, and you need to
design the pattern differently from the final part. I know someone who
wanted to make some lighter-than-normal cast iron cookware, and the foundry
said the pattern was too thin in some places.

But as you made the pattern in CAD you can print it can give it to the
foundry and they can tell you, then fixing it is very easy, not nearly as
hard as making a new wood pattern.

Unless you have a lot of experience with making cast iron parts, you want
to use a LOCAL foundry where you can talk to the person there in person.
Then he can tell you how to redesign the pattern if that is required.   You
need to follow their design rules

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:46 AM Todd Zuercher  wrote:

> Google up some names and make some phone calls.  There are literally
> thousands of small foundries across the US.  The trick is finding which one
> wants your money and is most convenient for you.
>
> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
> 630 Henry Street
> Dalton, Ohio 44618
> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>
> -Original Message-
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>   I have a new spindle that I would like to mount on my Mill.  It larger,
> faster and more powerful than my current spindle.  I have created a 3D
> model of the desired spindle holder box that I would like to get converted
> to cast iron.
>
> I would appreciate recommendations on sources of custom castings.
>
> I live in central Texas.
>
> Hubert
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Re: [Emc-users] Custom Cast Iron castings

2023-04-03 Thread Todd Zuercher
Google up some names and make some phone calls.  There are literally thousands 
of small foundries across the US.  The trick is finding which one wants your 
money and is most convenient for you.  

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-Original Message-
From: hubert  
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2023 1:11 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Emc-users] Custom Cast Iron castings

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.

  I have a new spindle that I would like to mount on my Mill.  It larger, 
faster and more powerful than my current spindle.  I have created a 3D model of 
the desired spindle holder box that I would like to get converted to cast iron.

I would appreciate recommendations on sources of custom castings.

I live in central Texas.

Hubert



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Re: [Emc-users] Custom Cast Iron castings

2023-04-02 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 18:30, hubert  wrote:

I would appreciate recommendations on sources of custom castings.


It's helpful to be able to make your own patterns. Castings are cheap (I
pay about £10 / kg for one-offs) but pattern-making is expensive.

However, 3D-printing has made pattern making very much easier (especially
loose pieces and odd-sides)
As an example of an odd-side, the red part here is the part pattern, the
blue is a an odd-side, something that it is cradled in during the ramming
of the first half of the mould. Very difficult to make traditionally, a few
minutes to design and send to the printer in CAD.

Though, you can always make the patterns the traditional way, in wood. Here
is a very fancy pattern made by a friend of mine:
https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/9672-ww1-thornycroft-restoration/?do=findComment=496232

The fun part is learning to think in terms of casting metal _and_ "casting
air"

Once you have a pattern, then in the UK I use AJD, but in the US the name
that keeps coming up is "WIndy Hill" https://windyhillfoundry.com but it's
probably worth ringing around. If the foundry is doing manual sand casting
then there is really no economy of scale, so a one-off costs pretty much
the same per part as thousands. (And is a little less boring for the
moulder)

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