[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 30. 06. 20 21:03, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

I don't think a package-review is needed? It would just be unretiring
the fedora branches of an existing package?


Technically, the package is "retired for 8+ weeks" on Fedora. Hence a new review 
request.



That said, I am -1 on the idea.

You have no idea how many people try to install epel packages on fedora.
We had to explicitly add a Conflicts to try and reduce this, and that
was with them in another repo entirely!

I fear if we do this more people will start installing stuff from epel
on fedora and cause a lot of breakage.


I understand the concern, but am not considering it a blocker for this, 
especially since people will find a way to download the epel packages anyway. 
This does not allow `dnf install epel-release` on Fedora neither are the repos 
enabled. The amount of work to actually use this package to install epel 
packages on Fedora is more or less the same as downloading the packages from 
Koji or EPEL mirrors.



Whats your goal here? To have them easily available to query from fedora
installs?


Yes. See the README:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/fork/churchyard/rpms/epel-release/blob/fedora-package/f/README.md

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[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 30. 06. 20 20:57, Neal Gompa wrote:

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Also, queries and figuring out
dependencies still requires having RHEL/CentOS repositories, which
this package would not provide.


That is a known limitation, but I wouldn't say this makes it "not a good idea". 
Would you mind telling why so consider it bad? I like the repos packaged, so I 
don't have to explain to others how to get them. This way, it's a magnitude 
easier. It solves a problem I have.



Some time ago, I wrote rpmdistro-repoquery wrapper around dnf
repoquery[1] for doing stuff like this. That might help for you too.

[1]:https://pagure.io/rpmdistro-repoquery


I've actually seen this (when mentioned couple week ago somewhere on a mailing 
list) and while powerful, it was a bit more complicated for me to use. For my 
own problems, having the epel repos is what I need. rpmdistro-repoquery wrapper 
can optionally use the packaged repos as well if desired (but doesn't have to).


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[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:46:43PM -, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to 
> use the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a 
> different name, such as epel-repos).
> 
> See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/pull-request/9
> And https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852583
> 
> Package review and any other feedback is appreciated.

I don't think a package-review is needed? It would just be unretiring
the fedora branches of an existing package?

That said, I am -1 on the idea. 

You have no idea how many people try to install epel packages on fedora. 
We had to explicitly add a Conflicts to try and reduce this, and that
was with them in another repo entirely!

I fear if we do this more people will start installing stuff from epel
on fedora and cause a lot of breakage. 

Whats your goal here? To have them easily available to query from fedora
installs?

> (Side note: I'm using the hyperkitty web interface to send this email, as I 
> cannot connect to my email from Thunderbird, sorry if the email is somewhat 
> weird.)

Seems fine to me. 

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:46 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to 
> use the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a 
> different name, such as epel-repos).
>
> See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/pull-request/9
> And https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852583
>
> Package review and any other feedback is appreciated.
>

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Also, queries and figuring out
dependencies still requires having RHEL/CentOS repositories, which
this package would not provide.

Some time ago, I wrote rpmdistro-repoquery wrapper around dnf
repoquery[1] for doing stuff like this. That might help for you too.

[1]: https://pagure.io/rpmdistro-repoquery


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[EPEL-devel] EPEL repos packaged for Fedora (for repoquery)

2020-06-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
To scratch my own itch I've packaged EPEL repos for Fedora. I've decided to use 
the existing epel-release component for this (but I am OK to get a different 
name, such as epel-repos).

See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/pull-request/9
And https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1852583

Package review and any other feedback is appreciated.

(Side note: I'm using the hyperkitty web interface to send this email, as I 
cannot connect to my email from Thunderbird, sorry if the email is somewhat 
weird.)

Thanks,
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