Re: was China, Now perpetual motion

[Brent Meeker]

It's hard to know whether spudboy is a dummy or just plays one online.

Brent

On 8/3/2022 2:59 PM, Jesse Mazer wrote:


anytime you see a tweet with some hard-to-believe info you should 
check the replies--people point out that it's a CG animation, 
originally from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJvpRml5kM (and if 
you plug the first line of the youtube video description into google 
translate, it says "it's CG")


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:35 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


On physics LC, I thought that perpetual motion is impossible. So,
is this CGI? When does entropy takeover?

https://twitter.com/AmazingPhysic/status/1554814926270918656


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: China

In many ways I think you have a very cruel mentality. People
coming into this country are doing so often because where they
come from there is extreme poverty of social violence. Republicans
have a very selfish and cruel outlook on this and fail to see
someone coming across a border as a human being. No to Republicans
they are usurpers and used by liberals, in in the extreme right
wing the Jews etc, as a way of taking over. This is one of the
most revolting developments in recent times, and it fits with the
messed up conspiracy narratives on the right.

I am not sure whether this country is being taken over by a
fascist movement, or whether in some ways this is a sort of
national socialism (Nazism) within democracy.

LC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

It is a fact that bringing in illegals is what the dems do
because their dwelling in dem areas increases the population
count by the Census Bureau, which then gets counted for adding
additional congressional districts. This is why Trump opposed
this.


https://publicintegrity.org/politics/system-failure/trump-obstruction-of-2020-census/

and NYC dems this year.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/judge-says-nyc-cant-let-noncitizens-vote-city-elections-rcna35580

Its all on you, but now ask yourself if this makes any
difference in outcomes?


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: spudb...@aol.com
Cc: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am
Subject: Re: China



On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 6:17 PM  wrote:

/S! Here is a secret why the democrats like and open
border-don't tell nobody, ok??? With your team, inflation,
crime, the China threat, globalism, just don't matter.
It's all about holding power by getting a nice census
count of "undocumented workers." They do get counted
despite court challenges 2 years ago. He wanted the totals
discounted for non-citizens, you wanted counted to ensure
your rule./


And you know all this because politicians like Donald Trump
and corporation heads like Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News
and The New York Post and many other anti-intellectual
publications) told you so; and those blowhards know how to
push the buttons on neo-fascists and make them believe
whatever they want them to believe. It's easy, all they need
to do is write the words "crime" or "immigration" or
"Mexicans" or "aliens" and their readers become putty that
they can mold into whatever shape they want.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Why do you think that I ever considered the Clinton marriage to be anything 
other than an "open marriage?" You know the 60's, swingers, swapping, all that 
fun stuff? The last rumor ten years ago that I recall was that Huma Abedin who 
at the time was the wife of NY Dem congressman, appropriately named, Anthony 
Weiner, and was employed by Hillary as a senatorial assistant, who occasionally 
bunked with Hillary, while Weiner was away...Weiner-izing. 

The showers or spankings were never presented, & if they were, so as to better 
ruin Don's ascendency to the presidency. It hasn't shown up yet and so we await 
the release of the evidence, along with Bigfoot, ESP, and the thunderous roar 
of the might Bussard Ramjet a-cleaving the night sky. I think we iz loyal to El 
Trumpo not because he is so wonderful, but rather your team, JC, is a very  bad 
combination. The combination is incompetence, combined with a fanatical zeal to 
an ideology, whether it functions well or not. 

Thus, you rail against Donny, rather than any policy he produced. Go Team!  For 
me, it's all policy and the results. 
I wish Don or Joe was chummy with VLAD! Maybe either could have talked the 
maniac out of Ukraine? I prefer peace over war, but do not now trust either 
dictator. I don't blame Joey for Putin's invasion as I have mentioned before. I 
don't blame Trumpy. I do blame fraulein doktor Merkel for not following Don's 
and Obama's (yes) suggestions that they buy US nat gas instead. She didn't want 
to listen because she didn't want to wreck the relationship. :-/
That, is in the past and is relegated to another MWI track. If Putin had 
something on Trump, oh well. The Bidens took donations from Chinese businesses, 
but even here, Joey is forced to react, if he doesn't want PLA troops in Hawaii 
or Cali. This apparently is a current thing with Chinese and Russian 
leadership. Allegedly. 






-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: spudboy...@aol.com
Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:49 PM  wrote:


> I am not broken hearted if the Don did partake in female attentions.

And yet you think Hillary Clinton should be criticized if her husband was 
unfaithful. 


> My point the golden shower tape never existed,

I don't know if the golden shower taped exists or not and you don't either, but 
if it doesn't I Vladimir Putin must know something equally disturbing about 
Trump that he threatened to make public.  I say that because I can't think of 
any other explanation for Trump's chummy relation with Putin and never daring 
to say a single word against him, doing that didn't help the nation and it 
didn't even help Trump secure the loyalty of his right wing zombies. I don't 
know what it is but Putin must have something on Trump, otherwise his actions 
simply make no sense.  
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:49 PM  wrote:

*> I am not broken hearted if the Don did partake in female attentions.*
>

And yet you think Hillary Clinton should be criticized if her husband was
unfaithful.


* > My point the golden shower tape never existed,*
>

I don't know if the golden shower taped exists or not and you don't either,
but if it doesn't I Vladimir Putin must know something equally disturbing
about Trump that he threatened to make public.  I say that because I can't
think of any other explanation for Trump's chummy relation with Putin and
never daring to say a single word against him, doing that didn't help the
nation and it didn't even help Trump secure the loyalty of his right wing
zombies. I don't know what it is but Putin must have something on Trump,
otherwise his actions simply make no sense.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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Re: was China, Now perpetual motion

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Thanks, Jesse. My faith in Newtonian physics has been restored! Now back to 
energy and space and materials science.
Spud, the easily baffled!


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From: Jesse Mazer 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: was China, Now perpetual motion


anytime you see a tweet with some hard-to-believe info you should check the 
replies--people point out that it's a CG animation, originally from 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJvpRml5kM (and if you plug the first line of 
the youtube video description into google translate, it says "it's CG")
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:35 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:

On physics LC, I thought that perpetual motion is impossible. So, is this CGI? 
When does entropy takeover? 
https://twitter.com/AmazingPhysic/status/1554814926270918656


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: China

In many ways I think you have a very cruel mentality. People coming into this 
country are doing so often because where they come from there is extreme 
poverty of social violence. Republicans have a very selfish and cruel outlook 
on this and fail to see someone coming across a border as a human being. No to 
Republicans they are usurpers and used by liberals, in in the extreme right 
wing the Jews etc, as a way of taking over. This is one of the most revolting 
developments in recent times, and it fits with the messed up conspiracy 
narratives on the right. 
I am not sure whether this country is being taken over by a fascist movement, 
or whether in some ways this is a sort of national socialism (Nazism) within 
democracy. 
LC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

It is a fact that bringing in illegals is what the dems do because their 
dwelling in dem areas increases the population count by the Census Bureau, 
which then gets counted for adding additional congressional districts. This is 
why Trump opposed this. 
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/system-failure/trump-obstruction-of-2020-census/
and NYC dems this year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/judge-says-nyc-cant-let-noncitizens-vote-city-elections-rcna35580
Its all on you, but now ask yourself if this makes any difference in outcomes? 


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: spudb...@aol.com
Cc: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am
Subject: Re: China



On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 6:17 PM  wrote:


S! Here is a secret why the democrats like and open border-don't tell 
nobody, ok??? With your team, inflation, crime, the China threat, globalism, 
just don't matter. It's all about holding power by getting a nice census count 
of "undocumented workers." They do get counted despite court challenges 2 years 
ago. He wanted the totals discounted for non-citizens, you wanted counted to 
ensure your rule.

And you know all this because politicians like Donald Trump and corporation 
heads like Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News and The New York Post and many 
other anti-intellectual publications) told you so; and those blowhards know how 
to push the buttons on neo-fascists and make them believe whatever they want 
them to believe. It's easy, all they need to do is write the words "crime" or 
"immigration" or "Mexicans" or "aliens" and their readers become putty that 
they can mold into whatever shape they want.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
pih





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Re: was China, Now perpetual motion

[Jesse Mazer]

anytime you see a tweet with some hard-to-believe info you should check the
replies--people point out that it's a CG animation, originally from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJvpRml5kM (and if you plug the first line
of the youtube video description into google translate, it says "it's CG")

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:35 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> On physics LC, I thought that perpetual motion is impossible. So, is this
> CGI? When does entropy takeover?
>
> https://twitter.com/AmazingPhysic/status/1554814926270918656
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lawrence Crowell 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 7:15 pm
> Subject: Re: China
>
> In many ways I think you have a very cruel mentality. People coming into
> this country are doing so often because where they come from there is
> extreme poverty of social violence. Republicans have a very selfish and
> cruel outlook on this and fail to see someone coming across a border as a
> human being. No to Republicans they are usurpers and used by liberals, in
> in the extreme right wing the Jews etc, as a way of taking over. This is
> one of the most revolting developments in recent times, and it fits with
> the messed up conspiracy narratives on the right.
>
> I am not sure whether this country is being taken over by a fascist
> movement, or whether in some ways this is a sort of national socialism
> (Nazism) within democracy.
>
> LC
>
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> It is a fact that bringing in illegals is what the dems do because their
> dwelling in dem areas increases the population count by the Census Bureau,
> which then gets counted for adding additional congressional districts. This
> is why Trump opposed this.
>
>
> https://publicintegrity.org/politics/system-failure/trump-obstruction-of-2020-census/
>
> and NYC dems this year.
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/judge-says-nyc-cant-let-noncitizens-vote-city-elections-rcna35580
>
> Its all on you, but now ask yourself if this makes any difference in
> outcomes?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark 
> To: spudb...@aol.com
> Cc: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am
> Subject: Re: China
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 6:17 PM  wrote:
>
> *S! Here is a secret why the democrats like and open border-don't tell
> nobody, ok??? With your team, inflation, crime, the China threat,
> globalism, just don't matter. It's all about holding power by getting a
> nice census count of "undocumented workers." They do get counted despite
> court challenges 2 years ago. He wanted the totals discounted for
> non-citizens, you wanted counted to ensure your rule.*
>
>
> And you know all this because politicians like Donald Trump and
> corporation heads like Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News and The New York
> Post and many other anti-intellectual publications) told you so; and
> those blowhards know how to push the buttons on neo-fascists and make them
> believe whatever they want them to believe. It's easy, all they need to
> do is write the words "crime" or "immigration" or "Mexicans" or "aliens"
> and their readers become putty that they can mold into whatever shape they
> want.
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> 
> pih
>
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Oh sorry Stormy!! Yeah, I feel so ashamed, just like you feel ashamed over 
where Billy Willie went on Epstein Island. 
My sense of things is, as a US peasant, increasingly ground under by an 
(economically at least) fascistic ruling class, I have other things to ponder. 
In my opinion, Joey used to be a solid politician till he became Barrack's 
doormat. He never recovered from that, nut was sharp enough to promise free 
stuff in the 2020 campaign. Free stuff is hard for people to say no to. Many 
people simply cannot turn it down, psychologically. So it was a campaign winner 
for the lad. 
Next up? Surviving ourselves, Putin, and Xi. 


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Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; 
te...@telmomenezes.net 
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:25 PM  wrote:


> Funny. You are referring to the Steele-Danchenko allegations (Fusion-GPS) 
> which has proven wrong.

That hasn't been proven to be wrong and wasn't even what I was talking about  
The Steele dossier was about Trump paying Russian prostitutes to pee on a bed 
that Barack Obama once slept on in Moscow while he watched, I was talking about 
something entirely different, I was talking about Trump paying Stormy Daniels 
to spank his naked ass with a rolled up copy of Forbes magazine that had his 
ugly mug on the cover. But your error is entirely understandable, there have 
been so many Trump scandals, sexual and otherwise, that it's very easy to get 
them confused. 
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I am not broken hearted if the Don did partake in female attentions. It works 
ok for Hunter Biden, (long dismissed by Team Dem as a Russky disinfo campaign) 
and Don never portrayed himself as a more than a twice a year kind of 
Christian. Sure he took fundamentalists votes. 
As Dr. Johnson is quoted, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." Allow 
me to note that now that we have had the economy and governance of the 
Globalists, I will happily trot back to the nationalists! Thus, if and when a 
Canadian sees the best interest of the Canadians being best served by a 
Canada-First politician, business leader, etc., I say more power you me 
brother. 

My point the golden shower tape never existed, and if it did the people most 
disappointed would still be hardline democratic party voters like yourself, 
upon failing to see the Religious Right excoriate Don-baby as your team had 
hoped! No gnashing of teeth, no wailing. They didn't condemn The Great Sinner, 
nor, did they call for his Peaching either. 

To which I intone, bwah hah hah, etc.

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Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin



On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:38 PM  wrote:


> I had seen Ayman al Zawahiri post on Twitter that he had evidence that he 
> would present that would get Hillary Clinton arrested. Was that what 
> triggered the drone strike??

That is evidence only that most of the stuff on Twitter and all of the stuff 
ultra-religious nationalists say is completely imbecilic. But apparently you 
think it is evidence for something more than that, and that explains why your 
worldview is so nonsensical.  
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was China, Now perpetual motion

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

On physics LC, I thought that perpetual motion is impossible. So, is this CGI? 
When does entropy takeover? 
https://twitter.com/AmazingPhysic/status/1554814926270918656


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: China

In many ways I think you have a very cruel mentality. People coming into this 
country are doing so often because where they come from there is extreme 
poverty of social violence. Republicans have a very selfish and cruel outlook 
on this and fail to see someone coming across a border as a human being. No to 
Republicans they are usurpers and used by liberals, in in the extreme right 
wing the Jews etc, as a way of taking over. This is one of the most revolting 
developments in recent times, and it fits with the messed up conspiracy 
narratives on the right. 
I am not sure whether this country is being taken over by a fascist movement, 
or whether in some ways this is a sort of national socialism (Nazism) within 
democracy. 
LC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

It is a fact that bringing in illegals is what the dems do because their 
dwelling in dem areas increases the population count by the Census Bureau, 
which then gets counted for adding additional congressional districts. This is 
why Trump opposed this. 
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/system-failure/trump-obstruction-of-2020-census/
and NYC dems this year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/judge-says-nyc-cant-let-noncitizens-vote-city-elections-rcna35580
Its all on you, but now ask yourself if this makes any difference in outcomes? 


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: spudb...@aol.com
Cc: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am
Subject: Re: China



On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 6:17 PM  wrote:


S! Here is a secret why the democrats like and open border-don't tell 
nobody, ok??? With your team, inflation, crime, the China threat, globalism, 
just don't matter. It's all about holding power by getting a nice census count 
of "undocumented workers." They do get counted despite court challenges 2 years 
ago. He wanted the totals discounted for non-citizens, you wanted counted to 
ensure your rule.

And you know all this because politicians like Donald Trump and corporation 
heads like Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News and The New York Post and many 
other anti-intellectual publications) told you so; and those blowhards know how 
to push the buttons on neo-fascists and make them believe whatever they want 
them to believe. It's easy, all they need to do is write the words "crime" or 
"immigration" or "Mexicans" or "aliens" and their readers become putty that 
they can mold into whatever shape they want.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
pih





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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:38 PM  wrote:

*> I had seen Ayman al Zawahiri post on Twitter that he had evidence that
> he would present that would get Hillary Clinton arrested. Was that what
> triggered the drone strike??*


That is evidence only that most of the stuff on Twitter and all of the
stuff ultra-religious nationalists say is completely imbecilic. But
apparently you think it is evidence for something more than that, and that
explains why your worldview is so nonsensical.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 4:25 PM  wrote:

*> Funny. You are referring to the Steele-Danchenko allegations
> (Fusion-GPS) which has proven wrong.*
>

That hasn't been proven to be wrong and wasn't even what I was talking
about  The Steele dossier was about Trump paying Russian prostitutes to pee
on a bed that Barack Obama once slept on in Moscow while he watched, I was
talking about something entirely different, I was talking about Trump
paying Stormy Daniels to spank his naked ass with a rolled up copy of
Forbes magazine that had his ugly mug on the cover. But your error is
entirely understandable, there have been so many Trump scandals, sexual and
otherwise, that it's very easy to get them confused.

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

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The days of me supporting the Bushes are long past. My unanswered question 
circa december 2001 is did he allow Bin Laden to flee to Iran, which is a rumor 
I have heard? Joey just did another thing that Obama did, is when your ratings 
go low, hit a a Jihadist and look like a hero. The funny thing is that I had 
seen Ayman al Zawahiri post on Twitter that he had evidence that he would 
present that would get Hillary Clinton arrested. Was that what triggered the 
drone strike?? I don't think so, but the Jihadist obviously was attempting to 
look relevant when CIA whacked him. 
Yeah, I believe that CIA had the dude tracked for months and the whacking of 
the jihadist was performed for Joey's benefit. Timing is everything. 
On getting rid of the electoral college, I am good with this if all election 
laws in 50 states & territories, are made tamper proof, it seems reasonable. 
Will this happen? Unlikely. 


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Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 11:56 am
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 11:27 AM  wrote:


> Trumpo liked to hit back 

The biggest hit the US ever received happened on 911, and the two men most 
responsible for it were Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. Republican 
George W. Bush did not hit back against Osama bin Laden, but Democrat Barack 
Obama did. And Republican Donald Trump liked to talk tough but he did not hit 
back against Ayman al-Zawahiri, but Democrat Joe Biden did. And although 15 of 
the 19  911 hijackers were Saudi Arabian citizens and the leader of that 
country sent assassins to Turkey to cut up a reporter into pieces with a bone 
saw in their embassy, Trump recently held a golf tournament at one of his tacky 
golf courses that was sponsored by Saudi Arabia.  


> which is why he was elected by us

Neither George W. Bush nor Donald Trump were elected by "us", they were elected 
by the elite members of the electoral college; the American people wanted Al 
Gore and Hillary Clinton, but under our screwed up system their wishes do not 
count.  
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

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Funny. You are referring to the Steele-Danchenko allegations (Fusion-GPS) which 
has proven wrong. It was an opposition campaign by Hillary back in the day. All 
the while hubby dwelt on Epstein Island. Also, its good to remember that those 
hostile to old Thomas Jefferson are Team Dem. Removal of statues, all of those 
Stalinist revisions. Like a Rolling Stone, like a complete unknown cuz it 
didn't happen. Nothing came of it. Poof!
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/steele-dossier-analyst-arrested-igor-danchenko-1253151/
What it has to do, is that for all his intellect, Old Tom's quote that Telmo 
used doesn't seem to apply in our world, is what it has to do with Comrade Xi 
and the PLA. Telmo's point was that with many of our species, kicking back and 
raking in the cash isn't enough. That one must crush all potential opposition. 
Their values ain't Our values. That!


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Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 12:09 pm
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 11:59 AM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


> Also, lets not forget that Jefferson had been nailing Sally Hemmings since 
> she was quite young.

If that's important to remember then it's also important to remember that 
Donald Trump hired a prostitute to spank his naked ass with a magazine that had 
his picture on the cover, although what either has to do with the US's Chinese 
foreign policy eludes me. 
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 11:59 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> Also, lets not forget that Jefferson had been nailing Sally Hemmings
> since she was quite young.*


If that's important to remember then it's also important to remember that
Donald Trump hired a prostitute to spank his naked ass with a magazine that
had his picture on the cover, although what either has to do with the US's
Chinese foreign policy eludes me.

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Yes it seems sensible, Telmo. Yet the other fellow has a voice too, and that 
fellow wants to use his nukes if he can get away with it unscathed?
Also, lets not forget that Jefferson had been nailing Sally Hemmings since she 
was quite young. She was Jefferson's women but not officially his wife. 


https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings
Humans are very flawed.Lets see if we can survive Vlad and Xi's ministrations?
Bata o Magnífico


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#yiv1275835438 p.yiv1275835438MsoNormal, #yiv1275835438 
p.yiv1275835438MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Am Mi, 3. Aug 2022, um 15:23, schrieb 
spudboy100 via Everything List:

One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing to be a large 
Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas, while selling their Mercedes to 
the Chinese.


"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances 
with none."

Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 11:27 AM  wrote:

> Trumpo liked to hit back


The biggest hit the US ever received happened on 911, and the two men most
responsible for it were Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. Republican
George W. Bush did not hit back against Osama bin Laden, but Democrat
Barack Obama did. And Republican Donald Trump liked to talk tough but he
did not hit back against Ayman al-Zawahiri, but Democrat Joe Biden did. And
although 15 of the 19  911 hijackers were Saudi Arabian citizens and the
leader of that country sent assassins to Turkey to cut up a reporter into
pieces with a bone saw in their embassy, Trump recently held a golf
tournament at one of his tacky golf courses that was sponsored by Saudi
Arabia.

*> which is why he was elected by us*


Neither George W. Bush nor Donald Trump were elected by "us", they were
elected by the elite members of the electoral college; the American people
wanted Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, but under our screwed up system their
wishes do not count.

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Re: China

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I think you may be correct about me having a very cruel mentality. Now we must 
address why or rather how, the undocumented peoples come from places that have 
"extreme poverty & violence." Which by the way, we have extreme poverty and 
violence here. The reasons seem fixable, but this would entail doing things 
differently (domestically), because the way they currently are performed lead 
to extreme poverty & violence. The trouble is, the progressives cannot afford 
to offend because it might alienate their voter base, and an alienated voter 
based, the DNC, cannot hold office. But things are breaking differently then 
your presentation, in the real of demographics and political actions. 
>From 
>NPR-https://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113166779/hispanic-and-minority-voters-are-increasingly-shifting-to-the-republican-party
The Progressive tolerance of street crimes has cause a shift (extreme 
violence), the lack of opportunity now in DNC run cities and states has been a 
wakeup call for many. So can the Reps gain the Hispanic vote in 22 and 24??
¡Si podemos!



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From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: China

In many ways I think you have a very cruel mentality. People coming into this 
country are doing so often because where they come from there is extreme 
poverty of social violence. Republicans have a very selfish and cruel outlook 
on this and fail to see someone coming across a border as a human being. No to 
Republicans they are usurpers and used by liberals, in in the extreme right 
wing the Jews etc, as a way of taking over. This is one of the most revolting 
developments in recent times, and it fits with the messed up conspiracy 
narratives on the right. 
I am not sure whether this country is being taken over by a fascist movement, 
or whether in some ways this is a sort of national socialism (Nazism) within 
democracy. 
LC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

It is a fact that bringing in illegals is what the dems do because their 
dwelling in dem areas increases the population count by the Census Bureau, 
which then gets counted for adding additional congressional districts. This is 
why Trump opposed this. 
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/system-failure/trump-obstruction-of-2020-census/
and NYC dems this year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/judge-says-nyc-cant-let-noncitizens-vote-city-elections-rcna35580
Its all on you, but now ask yourself if this makes any difference in outcomes? 


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On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 6:17 PM  wrote:


S! Here is a secret why the democrats like and open border-don't tell 
nobody, ok??? With your team, inflation, crime, the China threat, globalism, 
just don't matter. It's all about holding power by getting a nice census count 
of "undocumented workers." They do get counted despite court challenges 2 years 
ago. He wanted the totals discounted for non-citizens, you wanted counted to 
ensure your rule.

And you know all this because politicians like Donald Trump and corporation 
heads like Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox News and The New York Post and many 
other anti-intellectual publications) told you so; and those blowhards know how 
to push the buttons on neo-fascists and make them believe whatever they want 
them to believe. It's easy, all they need to do is write the words "crime" or 
"immigration" or "Mexicans" or "aliens" and their readers become putty that 
they can mold into whatever shape they want.

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

The Cold War came in sequences I say. The Nixon interlude, and Jerry Ford 
selling grain. Then, back to the fight. Which will count s #2. 
Mao created Taiwan, unintentionally, and then unintentionally starved 50 
million of his own people to death via The Great Leap Forwards. 
So, a Berlin Wall in the Pacific will rely on missiles and maybe lasers (pulsed 
with particle beams) to decide?


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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:06:14 AM UTC-5 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:44 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


> What's this? Talk of no star travel whilst we are very near to producing the 
> mighty Bussard Ramjet to cleveth the night sky with a mighty roar! Actually, 
> I think all the fusion power stuff may be uneconomic (unaffordable) till our 
> AI is fast enough to cut through the maths in diverse areas of science to 
> make it cheap enough. BUT, it will be peachy keen for interplanetary travel. 
> For Dyson Sphere's yeah, we do the solar system (descendants) and then red 
> dwarf stars which are said to last some 2-10 trillion years. I visualize 
> these as some sort of very long holiday, for some reason? 

That is a very ambitious plan but I see no scientific or technological reason 
that would make it impossible, however there might be other things that could 
prevent it from happening, Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan could be one of them. 
That's why I hope she doesn't go. Nobody knows for sure what will happen if she 
does decide to but the possible risk doesn't seem worth the possible reward. 
You might say that China's threat is just a bluff and maybe that's true, but 
are you willing to bet your life on it? And the timing is particularly bad, 
China's economy is stalling and this fall the 20th Communist Party Congress is 
supposed to give Xi an indefinite extension of his role as leader, so Xi needs 
something to make him look strong and get the people's mind off pocketbook 
issues, ramping up hostilities against Taiwan could do that.  We already have 
one hotspot in Ukraine that could lead to nuclear war, we don't need another 
one in Taiwan. 

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Taiwan is becoming the "Berlin" of the second cold war. 
LC 

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Backwards-down response.I am betting on inertial confinement fusion as the 
technological and commercial winner, someday. Lasers driving deuterium-tritium 
for maybe scientific testing, maybe industrial. Proton=Boron11 wins the race. 
Space won't be magnets either, maybe MHD propulsion?
I don't think is corruption, alone, but soviet thinking on war that loses the 
battles. 
Trumpo liked to hit back which is why he was elected by us, and not some 
demure, patrician, smughead, like the Bushes or Romney. 
Probably what determines national leadership in the US may be decided by the 
honking of other, unrecognized or unappreciated, Black Swans, swimming about.








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Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2022 10:07 am
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:23 AM  wrote:


> We, even under Donaldo, didn't build in hypersonic missiles of previous 
> discussions (which is faster).

So what?  They have their ideas about what would make a good weapon and we have 
ours, I don't think we should feel obligated to build every sort of weapon that 
any other country in the world has. Last year Russia spent 65 billion dollars 
on defense and the USA spent 801 billion dollars on defense, I think that's 
enough especially when you consider that however much US money is wasted on 
inefficiency and corruption it is TRIVIAL compared to the waste and corruption 
inherent in the Russian system that extends every step of the way from Vladimir 
Putin all the way down to the lowliest supply sergeant.  Corruption is simply 
part of the Russian military culture and is probably the primary reason the 
Russian army has performed so poorly in Ukraine.


> The democrats love ad hominem attacks

Thank goodness Donald Trump would never dream of doing anything like that!

 > Pelosi should be able to talk with whomever she wants.

Nobody is denying that, but is it wise of her to do so, is the potential risk 
worth the potential reward? I tend to think it is not. 

> One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing to be a large 
> Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas,

That may have been the view before Russia invaded Ukraine but not now.  

> Another matter is, I still view  fusion technology as easier to do in space 
> or maybe even nuke subs, over commercial power, 


You don't need fusion to make a nuclear submarine, and with Tokamaks, the most 
promising type of fusion reactor, the larger they are the better they work, and 
that indicates it would be easier (but still far from easy) to make a large 
commercial power plant than a small one powering a ship. 
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[Telmo Menezes]

Am Mi, 3. Aug 2022, um 15:23, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List:
> One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing to be a large 
> Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas, while selling their Mercedes 
> to the Chinese.

"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances 
with none."

Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:23 AM  wrote:

*> We, even under Donaldo, didn't build in hypersonic missiles of previous
> discussions (which is faster).*


So what?  They have their ideas about what would make a good weapon and we
have ours, I don't think we should feel obligated to build every sort of
weapon that any other country in the world has. Last year Russia spent 65
billion dollars on defense and the USA spent 801 billion dollars on
defense, I think that's enough especially when you consider that however
much US money is wasted on inefficiency and corruption it is TRIVIAL
compared to the waste and corruption inherent in the Russian system that
extends every step of the way from Vladimir Putin all the way down to the
lowliest supply sergeant.  Corruption is simply part of the Russian
military culture and is probably the primary reason the Russian army has
performed so poorly in Ukraine.

*> The democrats love ad hominem attacks*


Thank goodness Donald Trump would never dream of doing anything like that!

 > *Pelosi should be able to talk with whomever she wants.*


Nobody is denying that, but is it wise of her to do so, is the potential
risk worth the potential reward? I tend to think it is not.

*> One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing to be a large
> Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas,*


That may have been the view before Russia invaded Ukraine but not now.

*> Another matter is, I still view  fusion technology as easier to do in
> space or maybe even nuke subs, over commercial power, *
>


You don't need fusion to make a nuclear submarine, and with Tokamaks, the
most promising type of fusion reactor, the larger they are the better they
work, and that indicates it would be easier (but still far from easy) to
make a large commercial power plant than a small one powering a ship.

  John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

JC, I agree with your analysis of the coming up Party Congress to make Comrade 
Xi the 3rd term successor (permanent) leader. Pelosi arrived and departed. Xi 
performs a week of live fire exercises around Taiwan. You say "We," and your 
are correct, We don't matter if We are weak like Joe does things. 
We, even under Donaldo, didn't build in hypersonic missiles of previous 
discussions (which is faster). Personally, I see Xi, based on Communist Party 
ideology, and Chinese Mainland culture as seeking the extermination of the US 
and its population. See? I call these non-ideologically (I think) and whether 
it's Don or Joe, they were both a bit weak. 
When the old saying of, "They only respect force," in some cases this is sadly 
true. The Chinese "soft power," is merely bribery and it works. Pelosi should 
be able to talk with whomever she wants. Threats or no, bribes or no. 

It'd be a better world if Xi and Putin were not in power, but that is beyond 
our control. Even with Joey, it's Policy that matters and not the man. The 
democrats love ad hominem attacks because Party Philosopher, Saul Alinsky used 
it as one of his 13 Rules for Radicals. It works fab for the dem voter, but 
less so for Reps and Indies. 
Another matter is, I still view  fusion technology as easier to do in space or 
maybe even nuke subs, over commercial power, despite the advances made. I'd 
love it if I was wrong. Back to war, as I mentioned to Telmo, I understand why 
the Germans don't want to Mil-Up, but with Vlad or one of his chums in power, 
this seems unavoidable. One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing 
to be a large Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas, while selling 
their Mercedes to the Chinese. Not bad (for them) if you can do this, but 
mindsets of the Russians & Chinese deny this in a sustained manner. 

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Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2022 8:05 am
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:44 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


> What's this? Talk of no star travel whilst we are very near to producing the 
> mighty Bussard Ramjet to cleveth the night sky with a mighty roar! Actually, 
> I think all the fusion power stuff may be uneconomic (unaffordable) till our 
> AI is fast enough to cut through the maths in diverse areas of science to 
> make it cheap enough. BUT, it will be peachy keen for interplanetary travel. 
> For Dyson Sphere's yeah, we do the solar system (descendants) and then red 
> dwarf stars which are said to last some 2-10 trillion years. I visualize 
> these as some sort of very long holiday, for some reason? 

That is a very ambitious plan but I see no scientific or technological reason 
that would make it impossible, however there might be other things that could 
prevent it from happening, Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan could be one of them. 
That's why I hope she doesn't go. Nobody knows for sure what will happen if she 
does decide to but the possible risk doesn't seem worth the possible reward. 
You might say that China's threat is just a bluff and maybe that's true, but 
are you willing to bet your life on it? And the timing is particularly bad, 
China's economy is stalling and this fall the 20th Communist Party Congress is 
supposed to give Xi an indefinite extension of his role as leader, so Xi needs 
something to make him look strong and get the people's mind off pocketbook 
issues, ramping up hostilities against Taiwan could do that.  We already have 
one hotspot in Ukraine that could lead to nuclear war, we don't need another 
one in Taiwan. 

 John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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Re: The collapse of bitcoin

[John Clark]

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 7:17 PM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

*>>> What's this? Talk of no star travel whilst we are very near to
>>> producing the mighty Bussard Ramjet to cleveth the night sky with a mighty
>>> roar! Actually, I think all the fusion power stuff may be uneconomic
>>> (unaffordable) till our AI is fast enough to cut through the maths in
>>> diverse areas of science to make it cheap enough. BUT, it will be peachy
>>> keen for interplanetary travel. For Dyson Sphere's yeah, we do the solar
>>> system (descendants) and then red dwarf stars which are said to last some
>>> 2-10 trillion years. I visualize these as some sort of very long holiday,
>>> for some reason? *
>>>
>>
>> >> That is a very ambitious plan but I see no scientific or
>> technological reason that would make it impossible, however there might be
>> other things that could prevent it from happening, Nancy Pelosi's trip to
>> Taiwan could be one of them. That's why I hope she doesn't go. Nobody knows
>> for sure what will happen if she does decide to but the possible risk
>> doesn't seem worth the possible reward. You might say that China's threat
>> is just a bluff and maybe that's true, but are you willing to bet your life
>> on it? And the timing is particularly bad, China's economy is stalling and
>> this fall the 20th Communist Party Congress is supposed to give Xi an 
>> indefinite
>> extension of his role as leader, so Xi needs something to make him look
>> strong and get the people's mind off pocketbook issues, ramping up
>> hostilities against Taiwan could do that.  We already have one hotspot in
>> Ukraine that could lead to nuclear war, we don't need another one in
>> Taiwan.
>>
>
> > Taiwan is becoming the "Berlin" of the second cold war.
>

It's even worse than that, West Berlin did not mass produce a vital
ingredient necessary for the world economy to function, such as cutting
edge semiconductor microprocessors, but Taiwan does. I just hope Xi doesn't
have a temper tantrum now that Nancy Pelosi has visited there.
John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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