Re: Does ChatGPT really have an IQ of 147?

[Jason Resch]

Someone has made an interface to talk to Google's LaMDA AI.

https://beta.character.ai/chat

I can't get over how smart it seems. I can see why it was considered to be
sentient by one of the Google researchers.

Here's some of my conversation with it:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2R4fHkAyjyHHWTU88

Jason

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 6:12 AM John Clark  wrote:

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>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:24 PM  wrote:
>
> *> Ben Goetzel says nay Master Clark! *
>> *Wilt Thou repudiate such an upstart? *
>>
>> Is ChatGPT Real Progress Toward Human-Level AGI? (substack.com)
>> 
>>
>
> *I think I'll use a clichéd metaphor of my own, anyone who says something
> like:*
>
> * "I think it’s quite clear that systems like ChatGPT and Lamda are not
> only “not there yet”, but are essentially barking up the wrong tree. Or, to
> stretch the metaphor a bit, maybe it’s more like they’re barking up a tree
> in the wrong forest, which is maybe on the wrong continent entirely."*
>
> *Is whistling past the graveyard. By the way, Ben Goetzel also believes in
> ESP and similar woo woo stuff, or at least he did the last time I talked to
> him.*
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> 
> ww0
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Re: Using a proposed lattice fission fusion device we shall melt through to Europa's Ocean

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:11 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
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*> Opinions, also, the 45 -day to Mars thing. Any interest?*
>
> A nuclear-powered rocket could take astronauts to Mars in just 45 days
> (msn.com)
> 
>


45 days is nothing, about 20 years ago I wrote a post to another list about
how to get to Mars in 2 weeks:

"The efficiency of a rocket depends on its exhaust velocity, the
faster the better.
The space shuttle's oxygen hydrogen engine has a exhaust velocity of about
4500 meters per second and that's pretty good for a chemical rocket, the
nuclear heated rocket called NERVA tested in the 1960's had a exhaust velocity
of 8000 meters per second, and ion engines are about 80,000. Is there any
way to do better, much better, say around 200,000,000 meters per second?
Perhaps.

The primary products of a fission reaction are about that fast, but if you
use Uranium 235 or Plutonium 239 the large bulk of the material will absorb
the primary fission products and just heat up the material, and that slows
the particle output a lot. However the critical mass for the little used
artificial element Americium-242 (half life about a century) is less than
1% that of Plutonium. This would be great stuff to make a nuclear bomb if
you wanted to put it in your pocket, but it may have other uses too.

In the January 2001 issue of Nuclear Instruments and Methods Physics
Research A Yigal Ronen and Eugene Shwagerous calculate that a metallic film
of Americium 242 less than a thousandth of a millimeter thick would undergo
fission. This is so thin that rather than heat the bulk material the energy
of the process would go almost entirely into the speed of the primary
fission products, they would go free. They figure a Americium-242 rocket
could get to Mars in two weeks not two years as with a chemical rocket.

There are problems of course, engineering the rocket would be tricky
and I'm not
sure I'd want to be on the same continent as an Americium 242
production facility,
but it's an interesting idea."

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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Re: Physics? Ok Astronomers view 2 distant Water Worlds so following the physics I ask..

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:57 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
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* > Ok, all you commie-bastids! Remember when I pondered whether water
> worlds big enough, deep enough, (water getting denser as mass on-top of it
> in a fantastically deep ocean, could cause fusion??? You lot correctly said
> NO!   *
>
> *Ok, here I am back again to, as I am wont to do, to rub things in
> people's faces! *
>
> *Golly, wonder why they get so sore?*
>
> *Here it tis'*
> * Newfound alien planet has nuclear fusion going in its core (msn.com)
> *
>


I previously said:

 *"The smallest true star, that is a star that undergoes proton-proton
fusion in its core, has about 80 times the mass of Jupiter, although
pseudo-stars just 20 times the mass of Jupiter can undergo
deuterium-deuterium or deuterium-tritium fusion for a short time until
their fuel is used up."*

This planet is estimated to be 13 times more massive than Jupiter not 20,
if this new finding holds up then the lower limit for a pseudo star will
need to be modified.

 John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: Does ChatGPT really have an IQ of 147?

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:24 PM  wrote:

*> Ben Goetzel says nay Master Clark! *
> *Wilt Thou repudiate such an upstart? *
>
> Is ChatGPT Real Progress Toward Human-Level AGI? (substack.com)
> 
>

*I think I'll use a clichéd metaphor of my own, anyone who says something
like:*

* "I think it’s quite clear that systems like ChatGPT and Lamda are not
only “not there yet”, but are essentially barking up the wrong tree. Or, to
stretch the metaphor a bit, maybe it’s more like they’re barking up a tree
in the wrong forest, which is maybe on the wrong continent entirely."*

*Is whistling past the graveyard. By the way, Ben Goetzel also believes in
ESP and similar woo woo stuff, or at least he did the last time I talked to
him.*

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

ww0


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Re: Physics? Ok Astronomers view 2 distant Water Worlds so following the physics I ask..

[Henrik Ohrstrom]

One of the problems with a planet with fusion going on in the core is that
if you can see that fusion on the outside, is it not a star rather than a
planet?
That said, I do not have RFA so all are opinions from my hiney.

A pulstative fusion in the core of a waterworld is not impossible
considering how high pressures an imploding bubble can generate and if you
somehow start a bubble fusion cykel that would be worth considering.
But if that bubbling is so big that it shines through  the surface, you
have a star or an explanet (aka Shrapnels) anyhow.

Also, commie-bastids, that is an unimaginative insult, also as a modern
trumist republican, you are much more commie than anyone of the rest of the
world.
Red party, check!
Dementia riddled leader without connection to reality, Check!
Madly lying sublieutenants, Check!
Centralized economy ideals that screws the public really well, Check!
could go on a while, nice glasshouse you have there, mind your throwing.
/henrik

Den fre 20 jan. 2023 kl 02:57 skrev spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com>:

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> Ok, all you commie-bastids! Remember when I pondered whether water worlds
> big enough, deep enough, (water getting denser as mass on-top of it in a
> fantastically deep ocean, could cause fusion??? You lot correctly said
> NO!
>
> Ok, here I am back again to, as I am wont to do, to rub things in people's
> faces!
>
> Golly, wonder why they get so sore?
>
> Here it tis'
> Newfound alien planet has nuclear fusion going in its core (msn.com)
> 
>
> Opinions?
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