Re: Ethan Siegel the star gazer says that despite dark matter the universe ain't expanding faster

2023-01-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List 
Ok Jesse, nothing has changed, and the Standard Model seems solid. Shame on 
Siegel for getting people worked up for the price of selling an article. 
"Nonstandard terminology" seems a method for lying via exaggeration. Thanks for 
the info.
Spud.


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From: Jesse Mazer 
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Subject: Re: Ethan Siegel the star gazer says that despite dark matter the 
universe ain't expanding faster

Ethan Siegel just seems to be using non-standard terminology here to express 
the same results that have been known for a long time--he says that what he 
means is that "the expansion rate — also known as the Hubble constant/parameter 
— still decreases" even though "each individual object that’s receding from us 
will recede at faster and faster speeds as time goes on". If you look at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe#Technical_definition
 they say that cosmologist typically define "accelerating expansion" to mean 
the second derivative of the scale factor a(t) is positive, meaning the scale 
factor is increasing with time, and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#Time-dependence_of_Hubble_parameter
 notes that it's quite possible for the scale factor a(t) to increase with time 
while the Hubble parameter H(t) is decreasing, and in fact that's what 
observations suggest is happening (as Siegel points out). The article even 
notes that one implication of this is that "The recession velocity of one 
chosen galaxy does increase, but different galaxies passing a sphere of fixed 
radius cross the sphere more slowly at later times".
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 7:38 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:

So who the hell is messing with the universe!?? Oh, ok, sorry sir!
WTF? The Universe's expansion rate isn't accelerating? - Big Think

Seems, that, if accurate, the universe is altering things, or more, likely; our 
equipment is getting better, and we are thus obtaining more accurate results? 
Or is the Universe aware and likes to communicate with astronomers and 
physicists and is trying to get their attention?  The Autodidactic Universe - 
INSPIRE (inspirehep.net)
Me not know because me just a slobbering, peasant-serf type, a-slobbering over 
various science articles in mindless, incredulity. Hey, if this is correct, 
then, God really likes the smart people. This should cheer you all up.-- 
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Re: Ethan Siegel the star gazer says that despite dark matter the universe ain't expanding faster

2023-01-07 Thread Jesse Mazer 
Ethan Siegel just seems to be using non-standard terminology here to
express the same results that have been known for a long time--he says that
what he means is that "the expansion rate — also known as the Hubble
constant/parameter — still decreases" even though "each individual object
that’s receding from us will recede at faster and faster speeds as time
goes on". If you look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe#Technical_definition
they say that cosmologist typically define "accelerating expansion" to mean
the second derivative of the scale factor a(t) is positive, meaning the
scale factor is increasing with time, and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#Time-dependence_of_Hubble_parameter
notes that it's quite possible for the scale factor a(t) to increase with
time while the Hubble parameter H(t) is decreasing, and in fact that's what
observations suggest is happening (as Siegel points out). The article even
notes that one implication of this is that "The recession velocity of one
chosen galaxy does increase, but different galaxies passing a sphere of
fixed radius cross the sphere more slowly at later times".

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 7:38 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So who the hell is messing with the universe!?? Oh, ok, sorry sir!
>
> WTF? The Universe's expansion rate isn't accelerating? - Big Think
> 
>
> Seems, that, if accurate, the universe is altering things, or more,
> likely; our equipment is getting better, and we are thus obtaining more
> accurate results? Or is the Universe aware and likes to communicate with
> astronomers and physicists and is trying to get their attention?  The
> Autodidactic Universe - INSPIRE (inspirehep.net)
> 
>
> Me not know because me just a slobbering, peasant-serf type, a-slobbering
> over various science articles in mindless, incredulity.
> Hey, if this is correct, then, God really likes the smart people. This
> should cheer you all up.
>
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Re: Ethan Siegel the star gazer says that despite dark matter the universe ain't expanding faster

2023-01-07 Thread Samiya Illias 
Days of Allah 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/05/days-of-allah.html 


> On 08-Jan-2023, at 5:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So who the hell is messing with the universe!?? Oh, ok, sorry sir!
> 
> WTF? The Universe's expansion rate isn't accelerating? - Big Think
> 
> Seems, that, if accurate, the universe is altering things, or more, likely; 
> our equipment is getting better, and we are thus obtaining more accurate 
> results? Or is the Universe aware and likes to communicate with astronomers 
> and physicists and is trying to get their attention?  The Autodidactic 
> Universe - INSPIRE (inspirehep.net)
> 
> Me not know because me just a slobbering, peasant-serf type, a-slobbering 
> over various science articles in mindless, incredulity. 
> Hey, if this is correct, then, God really likes the smart people. This should 
> cheer you all up.
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Ethan Siegel the star gazer says that despite dark matter the universe ain't expanding faster

2023-01-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List 
So who the hell is messing with the universe!?? Oh, ok, sorry sir!
WTF? The Universe's expansion rate isn't accelerating? - Big Think

Seems, that, if accurate, the universe is altering things, or more, likely; our 
equipment is getting better, and we are thus obtaining more accurate results? 
Or is the Universe aware and likes to communicate with astronomers and 
physicists and is trying to get their attention?  The Autodidactic Universe - 
INSPIRE (inspirehep.net)
Me not know because me just a slobbering, peasant-serf type, a-slobbering over 
various science articles in mindless, incredulity. Hey, if this is correct, 
then, God really likes the smart people. This should cheer you all up.

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