Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
El jue, 27-01-2005 a las 21:30 -0700, Ronal B Morse escribió: That's the arrogance that sends people running back to Outlook, screaming as they go. Don't worry, I won't do :) I asked that because in other mail clients such Mozilla Mail + Enigmail you can select in what servers look for. And if enigmail doesn't find it, it lets you choose a new one with just a click. I said it was offtopic because it wasn't the topic of the thread where I asked it. A good answer would have been Evolution uses de gpg defaults but it sounds more cool the other :P I apologize for my bad english again. Thanks. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
El vie, 28-01-2005 a las 00:14 -0600, Ron Johnson escribió: On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:39 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 02:59 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:29 +0800, Not Zed wrote: man gpg That doesn't tell him what he needs to know. Well, it does actually. People learn more when they find out for themselves, particularly since it is rather off-topic for this list. Sometimes, one must know what question to ask, or what the precise vocabulary of a program is, before googling or reading man pages. That's my problem, the vocabulary :) I know how to use gpg, I've been using it by years. What I really wanted to ask is if I can change the servers from evolution, like I can do, i.e., in Mozilla Mail. My english is very bad, as you can see, and sometimes I don't say what I want to say. Omar, the gnu privacy assistant, a.k.a. gpa, is a great GUI interface to gpg. For things like this I prefer the console, but I'm trying that other people in my house use linux, and If my father ask me something and I answer him man gpg he propabily doesn't use it again. Thanks for your time. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 02:59 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:29 +0800, Not Zed wrote: man gpg That doesn't tell him what he needs to know. Well, it does actually. People learn more when they find out for themselves, particularly since it is rather off-topic for this list. Omar, look in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf for keyserver. On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 00:46 +0100, Omar Alvarez wrote: Perharps it's a bit offtopic, but... is it possible to change the servers where evolution looks for the pgp key? It could be a simple way of resolving this problem to me.
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
That's the arrogance that sends people running back to Outlook, screaming as they go. On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:39 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 02:59 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:29 +0800, Not Zed wrote: man gpg That doesn't tell him what he needs to know. Well, it does actually. People learn more when they find out for themselves, particularly since it is rather off-topic for this list. Omar, look in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf for keyserver. On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 00:46 +0100, Omar Alvarez wrote: Perharps it's a bit offtopic, but... is it possible to change the servers where evolution looks for the pgp key? It could be a simple way of resolving this problem to me. -- Ronal B Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] home
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:39 +0800, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 02:59 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:29 +0800, Not Zed wrote: man gpg That doesn't tell him what he needs to know. Well, it does actually. People learn more when they find out for themselves, particularly since it is rather off-topic for this list. Sometimes, one must know what question to ask, or what the precise vocabulary of a program is, before googling or reading man pages. Omar, the gnu privacy assistant, a.k.a. gpa, is a great GUI interface to gpg. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. It is an unfortunate fact that we can secure peace only by preparing for war. John F Kennedy signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
Am Mittwoch, den 26.01.2005, 15:57 +0530 schrieb Sandip Bhattacharya: Why does Evolution say invalid signature when it really means Signature couldn't be verified (because public key not in keyring)? because it's a bug. ;-) see http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56878 , it would be great if the *patch* there could be reviewed and go into 2.1 before string freeze. cheers, andre -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed! http://www.iomc.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
Perharps it's a bit offtopic, but... is it possible to change the servers where evolution looks for the pgp key? It could be a simple way of resolving this problem to me. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
man gpg On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 00:46 +0100, Omar Alvarez wrote: Perharps it's a bit offtopic, but... is it possible to change the servers where evolution looks for the pgp key? It could be a simple way of resolving this problem to me. ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
I dont think its important. There are really only 2 states. Good/trusted, or not. You can click on the icon for more details, but the only important info for normal use is whether it is trusted or not. On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 15:57 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Why does Evolution say invalid signature when it really means Signature couldn't be verified (because public key not in keyring)? - Sandip P.S. Evo 2.0.2 -- Sandip Bhattacharya*Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com *Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:30 +0800, Not Zed wrote: I dont think its important. There are really only 2 states. Good/trusted, or not. You can click on the icon for more details, but the only important info for normal use is whether it is trusted or not. I feel the two states are: 1. Have key in keyring: This has three sub states: a. Good the key is trusted b. Good but the key is *not* trusted (e.g. security updates where you might not have a chain of trust to the signer) c. Bad 2. Unverifiable Evo currently mentions 1a and 1b, but mixes up 1c and 2. It takes user intervention (by clicking on the tab) to find out which one is which. It is important to distinguish between 1c and 2, because you often get signed messages from people whom you might have missed adding to your keyring. And you would like to be sure that you know either their message has been modified in transit or that you need to import their keys. e.g. when somebody changes their keys. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya*Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com *Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 08:50 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:30 +0800, Not Zed wrote: I dont think its important. There are really only 2 states. Good/trusted, or not. You can click on the icon for more details, but the only important info for normal use is whether it is trusted or not. I feel the two states are: 1. Have key in keyring: This has three sub states: a. Good the key is trusted b. Good but the key is *not* trusted (e.g. security updates where you might not have a chain of trust to the signer) c. Bad 2. Unverifiable Evo currently mentions 1a and 1b, but mixes up 1c and 2. It takes user intervention (by clicking on the tab) to find out which one is which. It is important to distinguish between 1c and 2, because you often get signed messages from people whom you might have missed adding to your keyring. And you would like to be sure that you know either their message has been modified in transit or that you need to import their keys. e.g. when somebody changes their keys. You're still going to have to look at the details window.
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 08:50 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:30 +0800, Not Zed wrote: I dont think its important. There are really only 2 states. Good/trusted, or not. You can click on the icon for more details, but the only important info for normal use is whether it is trusted or not. I feel the two states are: 1. Have key in keyring: This has three sub states: a. Good the key is trusted b. Good but the key is *not* trusted (e.g. security updates where you might not have a chain of trust to the signer) c. Bad 2. Unverifiable Evo currently mentions 1a and 1b, but mixes up 1c and 2. It takes user intervention (by clicking on the tab) to find out which one is which. 2 should give a grey bar with Unverifiable on it Russell smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Evolution] Misleading PGP/GPG signature message
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 20:17 +1300, Russell Fulton wrote: I feel the two states are: 1. Have key in keyring: This has three sub states: a. Good the key is trusted b. Good but the key is *not* trusted (e.g. security updates where you might not have a chain of trust to the signer) c. Bad 2. Unverifiable Evo currently mentions 1a and 1b, but mixes up 1c and 2. It takes user intervention (by clicking on the tab) to find out which one is which. 2 should give a grey bar with Unverifiable on it I am sorry, but I didnt get what you are saying. :) Are you saying 2 gives a grey bar now and I have missed it (not possible) * Or are you saying that you agree that this feature should be added? - Sandip * I use Evo 2.0.2 -- Sandip Bhattacharya*Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com *Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
