[Evolution] evolution doesn't remember open windows and placement on shutdown

2008-10-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Given that I have to have multiple evolution windows open to monitor all
of my INBOXes due to the very broken vFolders in 2.24.0 and the multiple
times a day I have to "evolution --force-shutdown" due to bug 555262
(which I would call yet another basic-functionality-broken-in-2.24.0
bug), it's really getting annoying that evolution does not remember the
windows I have open (i.e. and on which folders they are open on) and
restore them.

To be totally honest, I'm really starting to get quite angry that the
evolution team have labelled this POS 2.24.0 release as a final release
and not some pre-release beta, or alpha because quite frankly that's the
quality of it.

If this release were labelled alpha or beta or pre-release or something
else, I could have been more cautious about upgrading to it, but I
trusted that it was final release quality given that it was a final
release version.

I need to seriously consider resurrecting the 2.22 release I was using
prior to this "upgrade" (to mis-use a term) because this is just getting
silly now.

b.



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.24 released

2008-10-06 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 08:56 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:36 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > 
> > What bug is tracking the "unread mails vfolders might not work well"
> > issue you refer to above?
> 
> I'm wondering why this simple question has not been answered.  I'm not
> usually the type to be demanding or expecting from open source projects,
> but in this case, it seems that Evolution 2.24 has been called "final"
> FAR too early.  My guess is that there was pressure to get a release out
> the door timed with Gnome and the result of that pressure was releasing
> something that was plain and simply not ready yet.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546637 is the bug for it. I'm
looking forward to fix it next week.

> 
> I've filed numerous bugs on basic functionality that simply doesn't work
> (i.e. GSSAPI, vFolders, mailbox mis-naming) and not a single one of them
> has even been triaged yet.  Is the number of bugs that you are
> frantically trying to fix for 2.24.1 so large that you cannot even
> triage basic functionality bugs such as I have posted?
> 
Brian, see what happens is that its the time, just after the release
most of us take offs and vacations. Infact, we know some issues and we
are fixing also. Just check today's code drop on stable branch, you
would understand that we are really fixing issues for 2.24.1. It has
some basic arch changes, that made us break ABI and so much of changes
there. Infact, I'm looking for a 2.24.0.1 release sometime next week, as
the changes are substantial to have a mid-point-release. Also our QA is
on a long vacation and back just last week and its holiday period in
India. I hope you understand.

> You folks do realize that this "final" 2.24.0 is going to ship with
> Ubuntu's Intrepid release right (unless they decide to pull it at the
> last minute -- which without a 2.24.1 I would certainly recommend they
> do)?  With such basic functionality problems I can't imagine the
> landslide of complaints and unhappiness that you are going to experience
> with this release.  There is no way I can see my way clear to letting a
> userbase loose on 2.24.0 at this point in time.
> 

If Ubuntu decides to wait till 2.24.1, I'm none to stop it. AFAICS, I'm
in touch with Seb who packages Evo for Ubuntu and I'm working on some of
his top blockers. 

-Srini
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.24 released

2008-10-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:36 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> 
> What bug is tracking the "unread mails vfolders might not work well"
> issue you refer to above?

I'm wondering why this simple question has not been answered.  I'm not
usually the type to be demanding or expecting from open source projects,
but in this case, it seems that Evolution 2.24 has been called "final"
FAR too early.  My guess is that there was pressure to get a release out
the door timed with Gnome and the result of that pressure was releasing
something that was plain and simply not ready yet.

I've filed numerous bugs on basic functionality that simply doesn't work
(i.e. GSSAPI, vFolders, mailbox mis-naming) and not a single one of them
has even been triaged yet.  Is the number of bugs that you are
frantically trying to fix for 2.24.1 so large that you cannot even
triage basic functionality bugs such as I have posted?

You folks do realize that this "final" 2.24.0 is going to ship with
Ubuntu's Intrepid release right (unless they decide to pull it at the
last minute -- which without a 2.24.1 I would certainly recommend they
do)?  With such basic functionality problems I can't imagine the
landslide of complaints and unhappiness that you are going to experience
with this release.  There is no way I can see my way clear to letting a
userbase loose on 2.24.0 at this point in time.

b.



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