Re: [Evolution] Top panel and Bottom panel are out of sync in Evolution Mail
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:14 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 13:07 -0500, John W. Himpel wrote: > > Is there anything I can do to bring the data shown in these two > > panes > > back into sync? > > Hi, > the information for the message list (the "top" panel) is stored in > the > folders.db files either under > > ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/ > > or under > > ~/.cache/evolution/mail/ > > sub-directories. Not every server can save everything, thus some > information is stored only in the folders.db file (like for the local > accounts (On This Computer) all the labels, follow ups and such are > stored only in the folders.db file), thus if you move it away, you > can > lose some information previously stored with the message. In any > case, > when you move the files away, they will be re-generated the next time > you start Evolution. Maybe enter the folders twice, it sometimes > helps. > > Alternatively, if this is only about IMAP accounts, which store their > data under ~/.cache/..., you can move away the respective messages > under that directory and keep the folders.db file, then the messages > which are not stored locally will be re-downloaded when their content > will be requested. That should help if the server did not change UID- > s. > This does not work for the Maildir/local accounts, which do not make > message copies. > > In any case, I do not understand how you can get out of sync with the > Maildir account, it doesn't make much sense to me. > > Bye, > Milan Milan, It appears as though removing ~/.cache/evolution/mail/ resolved the issue. Thanks for the help. John > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 19:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 13:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have > > > Mailman2 > > > and Gnome isn't going to change it. > > > > Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2. However that > > version > > does allow the list owner to upload a list of subscribers, > > something I > > hadn't noticed before now. > > I pointed this out earlier and recommended to ask if they will > migrate > to Mailman 3 or a similar mailing list software or if they consider > to > migrate to a forum software, too. I'll bear that in mind. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 13:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have Mailman2 > > and Gnome isn't going to change it. > > Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2. However that version > does allow the list owner to upload a list of subscribers, something I > hadn't noticed before now. I pointed this out earlier and recommended to ask if they will migrate to Mailman 3 or a similar mailing list software or if they consider to migrate to a forum software, too. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have Mailman2 > and Gnome isn't going to change it. Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2. However that version does allow the list owner to upload a list of subscribers, something I hadn't noticed before now. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? Sure. > > Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the > freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), I > think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as well. If only a few lists are going to migrate to new platforms, then freedesktop.org seems like the prefect fit. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:20 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list > wrote: > > I offered, and still do offer, to host mail.gnome.org. > > Hi, > thanks for the offer, and even I do not speak for the GNOME admins, > do > not count with it, they are not going to do/allow it. > > What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? > > Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the > freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), I > think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as > well. I tend to agree. Although munging the DNS record would be the most painless solution, I really doubt that Gnome would allow it as they would be in effect handing over responsibility for part of their own domain, at least in terms of perception. If we can get a Gnome admin to provide a membership list in a format suitable for upload to Mailman3, I think this is a promising direction to go in. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 03:33 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Paul Smith said on Wed, 02 Nov 2022 12:36:54 -0400 > > > > Alternatively of course we can announce the new list (as I said before > > it doesn't HAVE to be done before this list closes: it can be announced > > on Discourse) and let people subscribe on their own. > > Just speaking for myself, I won't be on Discourse, so I'll never hear > about it. Hi, I'm subscribed to at least one Discourse forum, but I will not take care about Discourse GNOME, too. The Discourse forum I'm subscribed to is a forum for proprietary software, but completely different to the GNOME's forum, since this forum doesn't obtrude all this gamicfication crap and it's overall visually more discreet designed. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
Paul Smith said on Wed, 02 Nov 2022 12:36:54 -0400 >Alternatively of course we can announce the new list (as I said before >it doesn't HAVE to be done before this list closes: it can be announced >on Discourse) and let people subscribe on their own. Just speaking for myself, I won't be on Discourse, so I'll never hear about it. SteveT Steve Litt Summer 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top panel and Bottom panel are out of sync in Evolution Mail
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 13:07 -0500, John W. Himpel wrote: > Is there anything I can do to bring the data shown in these two panes > back into sync? Hi, the information for the message list (the "top" panel) is stored in the folders.db files either under ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/ or under ~/.cache/evolution/mail/ sub-directories. Not every server can save everything, thus some information is stored only in the folders.db file (like for the local accounts (On This Computer) all the labels, follow ups and such are stored only in the folders.db file), thus if you move it away, you can lose some information previously stored with the message. In any case, when you move the files away, they will be re-generated the next time you start Evolution. Maybe enter the folders twice, it sometimes helps. Alternatively, if this is only about IMAP accounts, which store their data under ~/.cache/..., you can move away the respective messages under that directory and keep the folders.db file, then the messages which are not stored locally will be re-downloaded when their content will be requested. That should help if the server did not change UID-s. This does not work for the Maildir/local accounts, which do not make message copies. In any case, I do not understand how you can get out of sync with the Maildir account, it doesn't make much sense to me. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:20 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list wrote: > I offered, and still do offer, to host mail.gnome.org. Hi, thanks for the offer, and even I do not speak for the GNOME admins, do not count with it, they are not going to do/allow it. What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), I think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as well. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 16:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > poc, there had been multiple people offering help even with the > infrastructure. In case the current list admins do not respond, say > till the 6th (this Sunday), would it make sense to engage those folks, > if they are still willing to co-admin the list, wherever it is? There > should be a voice from them too, of course. I suppose to make the list > alive will take some time, hence I chose the 6th, to have at least a > week for it to set up. Hi, I'm willing to help. I'm an experienced FLOSS user, but I have got zero experiences with mailing lists. I'm a former Assembler programmer, I don't have any python knowledge. IOW I'm a power user, not a coder. My free time is quite limited. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 2/11/22 19:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 08:19 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > Many people have contributed their ideas as to how to move forward so > > > I > > > hope there is enough now suggested so that we can do that. > > > > > > Can I ask the Moderators and those that contribute a lot to this list > > > to decide where we migrate to before they shut us down. > > > I for one don't what to be left hanging and will happily "follow the > > > leaders". > > > > I've contacted the other moderators to see if we can reach a consensus > > on this, but have yet to hear back from them. We'll certainly inform > > the list if we have something to say. > > > > At the moment, my impression is that everyone is waiting for someone > > else to take a decision, and time is passing by. Clearly the moderators > > can't simply dictate what's going to happen. As things stand, it > > appears to be inevitable that the current list will be discontinued and > > that Evolution support will be provided on Discourse, no matter what > > any of us think. Therefore the temptation to set up a new list > > independent of gnome.org has to be weighed against the probable > > fragmentation of the community, which would not be ideal. However it's > > not out of the question. > > > > One thing I can say is that I would not take on the responsibility of > > managing a new list on my own. Moderating the current list is not a > > particularly onerous task because much of the infrastructure is > > provided by Gnome and we interact with it using a Mailman web page. > > Also, it's shared among three people. However anyone who proposes a new > > list should be willing to take on the task of administering it. > > This already been taken care of. > > If people choose to disregard what has been done for them, and simply > keep discussing, and not doing anything about it, then that is their choice. > > I will not again mention on this list, that a mailing list has been set > up, by someone willing to administer it, to which, so far, only about > thirty people have subscribed. Hi, this is the mentioned list that already exists: https://groups.io/g/evolution-users It is limited to 100 subscribers. Here we much likely could get a mailing list without a user limit: https://support.riseup.net/en/ticket/3227QJ76OfCW7Ci7 Everybody can open the ticket at riseup.net. I could do, but I'm not a moderator or admin of evolution-list@gnome.org . Do the moderators wish that I ask to open a mailing list? The list's archives seem to view HTML instead of plain text messages: https://lists.riseup.net/www/ The MC mailing list migrated to OSU OSL. They got all the data from gnome.org, so as a subscriber I had to do nothing, excepted of using m...@lists.midnight-commander.org instead of m...@gnome.org . I suspect OSU OSL is: https://osuosl.org/ Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
