Re: [Evolution] How do I delete a folder that isn't there?

[Ken Wright via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 08:58 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 21:50 -0500, Ken Wright via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > When I try to delete or move the folder, I get a message
> > saying there is no such folder.
> 
>  You can check what the server does when you run evolution as:
> 
>    $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
> 
> which will print raw communication between the server and the client.
> Search for that folder name in the log, to see what the server
> returns
> and what the Evolution (or better libcamel) does with it when you try
> to move/rename it, together with the response from the server, even
> though the "folder not found" error can be caught by the libcamel
> before sending any request to the server.

Here's the output:

[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00065 LIST "" "dovecot.sieve*" RETURN (CHILDREN
SUBSCRIBED STATUS (MESSAGES UNSEEN UIDVALIDITY UIDNEXT HIGHESTMODSEQ)
SPECIAL-USE)'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." dovecot.sieve
* NO [SERVERBUG] Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more
information. [2022-11-16 19:47:53]
A00065 OK List completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00066 UNSUBSCRIBE dovecot.sieve'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00066 OK Unsubscribe completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00067 DELETE dovecot.sieve'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00067 NO [SERVERBUG] Internal error occurred. Refer to
server log for more information. [2022-11-16 19:47:53] (0.001 + 0.000
secs).'

> 
> By the way, what does the folder name look like, please?

dovecot
  sieve
> 
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Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list

[Tim McConnell via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 22:09 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 15:59 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Patrick O'Callaghan said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:33 +
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days.
> > > We'll
> > > make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've
> > > decided
> > > not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list,
> > > i.e.
> > > users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is
> > > mainly
> > > to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security
> > > information to a new site.
> > 
> > Understood, but how will you tell all of us the subscription
> > process
> > if
> > the current list is no longer postable and we don't get on
> > discourse?
> 
> We expect the new list to be up and running before the switchover to
> Discourse. We will also very likely make an announcement on the new
> Discourse instance whenever it's live.
> 
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Could I sweet talk you guys into sending and email to this list when
it's live? I didn't join the Discourse page so I'd be without info on
the new site/list. 
Thanks! 
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Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 15:59 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:33 +
> 
> 
> > 
> > Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days.
> > We'll
> > make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've
> > decided
> > not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e.
> > users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is
> > mainly
> > to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security
> > information to a new site.
> 
> Understood, but how will you tell all of us the subscription process
> if
> the current list is no longer postable and we don't get on discourse?

We expect the new list to be up and running before the switchover to
Discourse. We will also very likely make an announcement on the new
Discourse instance whenever it's live.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Two folders open side by side?

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 19:07 +0100, Andreas Fournier via evolution-list
wrote:
> I would like to copy mails from one folder to another, but some of
> the mails already exist in the target folder, so I would like to copy
> selectively. Is it possible to have two folders open at the same time
> side by side and to copy from one to the the other?

Sure, you can simply open the UI twice and drag-n-drop between them.

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Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list

[Steve Litt]

Patrick O'Callaghan said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:33 +


>
>Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days. We'll
>make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've decided
>not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e.
>users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is mainly
>to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security
>information to a new site.

Understood, but how will you tell all of us the subscription process if
the current list is no longer postable and we don't get on discourse?

SteveT

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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.46: work week calendar display wrong?

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 13:52 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
> And finally, the midnight date is not tomorrow (17th) but rather
> Tuesday (15th)... maybe because the first day shown in my work week
> is Monday (14th)?  Seems like an odd choice.

Did that fix address this bit too?  Or is this an enhancement request?

I have two timezones on my time sidebar: one for my current timezone
(EST) and another for Dublin, 5 hours ahead.

So the "midnight" time in Dublin doesn't show "12 am" or whatever, it
shows the date of the next day, which is nice... but I guess because
this is a "work week" display, it shows the date of TUESDAY (because
it's midnight on the first day in the display, Monday).

It would be nice if it showed the date of tomorrow (Thursday), because
today is Wednesday.

I think you can only see this if you have a second timezone displayed
in the calendar.  I can get a screenshot if this is not clear.
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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.46: work week calendar display wrong?

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 19:58 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> it's this one:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2097

Oh yes, so it is.  Thanks Milan!
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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.46: work week calendar display wrong?

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 13:52 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
> Or are others seeing the wrong day shown in the
> calendar "Work Week" view?

Hi,
it's this one:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2097

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Two folders open side by side?

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 19:07 +0100, Andreas Fournier via evolution-list
wrote:
> Is it possible to have two folders open at the same time
> side by side and to copy from one to the the other?

Hi,
not in a single window, but you can open a new window (File->New
Window) and place the two windows side by side, each showing different
folders/views/content/...
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Evo 3.46: work week calendar display wrong?

[Paul Smith]

I'm using flatpak Evolution 3.46.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 and I'm seeing
something extremely odd in the calendar, on the "Work Week" display.

Today is Wednesday Nov 16th at 1:45pm.  If I use "Day" view and select
today (via the "Select Today" button) then it shows correctly: I get
the correct day, the red line shows the current time, and at midnight
it shows tomorrow's date (17th) on the sidebar.

Now if I select "Work Week" view it shows the right week, but the red
line shows the right time BUT instead of on Wednesday, it shows on
THURSDAY (tomorrow).

Also, the background of Thursday is highlighted yellow when I assume
that it should be highlighting Wednesday (today).

And finally, the midnight date is not tomorrow (17th) but rather
Tuesday (15th)... maybe because the first day shown in my work week is
Monday (14th)?  Seems like an odd choice.

If I choose "Week" view, then I see that Wednesday is highlighted in
yellow, as I'd expect, not Thursday (I've lost the timeline in this
view though so the other aspects are not relevant).

This is not just today, I noticed it last week too but forgot to send
any email.

Is this just me?  Or are others seeing the wrong day shown in the
calendar "Work Week" view?

Just to preclude obvious things: the date and timezone on my computer
IS correct :).  As above, if I click "Select Today" it does go to the
right day.  Also all my meeting reminders, etc. are correct.  It's only
the display of the specific "Work Week" view that seems wrong.
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[Evolution] Two folders open side by side?

[Andreas Fournier via evolution-list]

I would like to copy mails from one folder to another, but some of the
mails already exist in the target folder, so I would like to copy
selectively. Is it possible to have two folders open at the same time
side by side and to copy from one to the the other?

Cheers 
Andreas
 
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Re: [Evolution] What do we do now? V4 - need to decide.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 08:54 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list
wrote:
> Hi all,
> as Steve has mention it is my understanding also that at any moment
> now
> this list will stop.
> 
> Please could the moderators/admin/main contributors please have a
> discussion and decide where we move to.
> 
> If we can be automatically moved great but not required.
> I am very sure the people on the list will follow if we are given the
> statement "This list is now at ., please subscribe (or
> whatever)".

See Milan and my replies within that thread.

Please don't break threading. When the new list is ready, we'll
announce it as a separate posting.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] A reminder of a "plan B" mailing list

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 08:46 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 19:40 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > At any moment now posting access to this mailing list can be
> > removed
> > without further warning, so once again I want to make you aware of
> > the alt-evolution mailing list, which is a "plan B".
> 
> Hi,
> what a nice coincidence. We are currently in the process of setting
> up
> the new list, poc may send a note about it, unless he'll consider
> this
> mine as a replacement.
> 
> First of all, I've got a note from a GNOME admin that the lists will
> possibly shut down within 7 to 10 days since yesterday. There should
> be
> set up a new list meanwhile.
> 
> While I've been very keen on the freedesktop.org hosting, we received
> a
> response from them that they do not intent to host any desktop
> applications in their mailing lists, thus this site is out of
> question.
> 
> There is an ongoing work to setup the list under lists.osuosl.org,
> with
> a name evolution-us...@lists.osuosl.org . It's not done yet, there
> will
> be a separate email about it once it's done. This is a very fresh
> information, it happened roughly 9 hours ago (which is why I begun
> this
> email with "what a nice coincidence"). I guess the new name is fine,
> but if anyone has a better suggestion or an objection, then do not
> hesitate and express your opinion on it.
> 
> I plan to update the user documentation and the Wiki page with the
> new
> official mailing list once the things are set up, though the users
> with
> an old/ancient Evolution, even the current online help, will still
> reference this list. There's not much I can do about it, I'm afraid.
> 
> I'd like to thank poc, as he's leading this effort and he does all
> the
> paper work behind it.
> 
> That being said: stay tuned, you'll be updated when the things are
> ready.

Yes, I was about to say much the same but you got in ahead of me Milan
:-)

Hopefully the new list will be ready to go in the next few days. We'll
make a separate announcement when that happens. Note that we've decided
not to automatically carry over subscriptions to the new list, i.e.
users will have to re-subscribe once the list is ready. This is mainly
to avoid objections about copying people's addresses and security
information to a new site.

We expect the current list to continue as part of the Gnome Discourse
system, but we aren't in control of that. This means that there will be
(at least) two lists going forward, which is unfortunate but
unavoidable.

Stay tuned.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] How do I delete a folder that isn't there?

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 21:50 -0500, Ken Wright via evolution-list wrote:
> When I try to delete or move the folder, I get a message
> saying there is no such folder.

Hi,
I guess the server has the folder set as a virtual folder (not virtual
as in the Evolution terms, aka Search Folder). Or, it would be even
better, the folder name on the server contains a forward slash, which
Evolution can interpret as a directory separator in some cases, thus
the server may return "mailing/lists" and instead of seeing in the GUI

   mailing/lists

there's shown:

   mailing
  lists

This is only a wild guess. If anyone would like to object the forward
slash in the folder name should be preserved, then there are use cases
where this behavior helps to retain folder-like structure in the GUI,
thus I'd not change this behavior.

You can check what the server does when you run evolution as:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

which will print raw communication between the server and the client.
Search for that folder name in the log, to see what the server returns
and what the Evolution (or better libcamel) does with it when you try
to move/rename it, together with the response from the server, even
though the "folder not found" error can be caught by the libcamel
before sending any request to the server.

By the way, what does the folder name look like, please?

> Evolution 3.46.2 Flatpak.

There is no 3.46.2 release yet. It looks like you build the stable
version from the git checkout yourself (which is great). You can see
the exact version in Help->About, which even mentions the git commit
used for the build.

Bye,
Milan

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