Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This > > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output: > > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): > > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image- > > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3- > > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0: > > no known streams found > > Hi, > it looks like there is something with the gstreamer code in the > WebKitGTK, or, possibly better said, the message contains a > video/audio > stream, which cannot be played with the gstreamer. As your Evolution > works fine, it can be closed, the problem is surely on the WebKitGTK > side. A backtrace of the corresponding WebKitWebProcess process might > help, but getting a backtrace from a Flatpak application is too > complicated. I did manage to isolate the message that causes the freeze, from external appearances there is no audio or video. However, I still need to dig into the internals of the page. Externally, it appears to be a block of text, big graphic, block of text, big graphic, one last block of text and a signature. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
Hi, On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 10:55 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote: > Given that there is no master list of what distro is running what > version of anything, the task becomes a monumental time suck. And > time is the thing I have the least of. Right, I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean to waste your time. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 16:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:50 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > For example, Linux Mint native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while > > the > > flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in > > both Evolution and WebKit between the versions. > > Hi, > you are right, it depends on the distro the user uses. There are > distros with even older Evolution (but possibly close to the latest > WebKitGTK) and distros which have the same or newer version than the > Flathub.org version. > > I suggested to use the version close to the Flathub.org version just > for the reason you mentioned, to limit the set of the changes. > Bye, > Milan Given that there is no master list of what distro is running what version of anything, the task becomes a monumental time suck. And time is the thing I have the least of. Using 3.44.4 as the base there are 10 distros that have that version as the native, if the data is accurate. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:50 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > For example, Linux Mint native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while the > flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in > both Evolution and WebKit between the versions. Hi, you are right, it depends on the distro the user uses. There are distros with even older Evolution (but possibly close to the latest WebKitGTK) and distros which have the same or newer version than the Flathub.org version. I suggested to use the version close to the Flathub.org version just for the reason you mentioned, to limit the set of the changes. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This > > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output: > > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): > > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image- > > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3- > > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0: > > no known streams found > > A viable option could be to test with the message on a host system > Evolution (some latest version, like 3.44.x/3.46.0, with a new > WebKitGTK), and, if reproducible, provide the message for testing to > the WebKitGTK folks. Would it really, given that the host based versions available in most distros are so far behind the flatpak version? For example, Linux Mint native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while the flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in both Evolution and WebKit between the versions. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output: > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image- > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3- > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0: > no known streams found Hi, it looks like there is something with the gstreamer code in the WebKitGTK, or, possibly better said, the message contains a video/audio stream, which cannot be played with the gstreamer. As your Evolution works fine, it can be closed, the problem is surely on the WebKitGTK side. A backtrace of the corresponding WebKitWebProcess process might help, but getting a backtrace from a Flatpak application is too complicated. A viable option could be to test with the message on a host system Evolution (some latest version, like 3.44.x/3.46.0, with a new WebKitGTK), and, if reproducible, provide the message for testing to the WebKitGTK folks. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen
> > until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point.
>
>
> $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
>
> and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you
> can
> move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as
> well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked
> whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting.
Ok, it froze and this was the output ...
Gtk-Message: 10:02:56.508: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.226: Error: 9, This
file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error
(): /GstPipeline:image-decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
no known streams found
** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489): gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error
(): /GstPipeline:image-decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
no known streams found
Gtk-Message: 10:20:57.987: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
Gtk-Message: 10:21:24.172: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
{ me closing evolution }
(evolution.bin:55): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 10:22:00.762: Your application
did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using
g_application_run().
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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 13:23 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > Disabling and enabling it via Ctrl+M does not help. > Restarting Evolution helps. Hi, the preview panel is backed by the WebKitGTK. If it doesn't repaint, then (one of) the WebKitWebProcess processes is stuck on something. Getting a backtrace might help. I'm not suggesting for a full debuginfo for the WebKitGTK, because it's gigabytes of data. Fedora's minidebuginfo is sufficient for a rough idea what the process does. it can be stuck in Evolution's code too, thus having current debuginfo for evo and evolution-data-server would be welcome. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen > > until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point. > > Hi, > is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the > preview > panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? Maybe it's > doing something in the background, waiting long enough may recover > it. Machine isn't busy as everything is responding as expected. Htop shows 15-20% actvitity on all 4 cores, 20GB out of 24 GB of memory in use, and typically < 10 GB out of 26 GB swap in use ( 24 GB linux swap space and 2GB swap file ). It has happened while listening to a live webinar with no obvious effects... no chop, no jitter, and no frozen video. I typically have VPN connections to multple remote devices which also show no sign of the machine being bogged down ( no connection lockup, and no dropping of the connection ). > > Try to run evolution from a terminal: > > $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution I'll give it a try... and it probably won't happen again :-) > > and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you > can > move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as > well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked > whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting. > > It should work fine, when you run Evolution again, no? If the whole > app > is frozen, then do: > > $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution Flatpak kill never works completely. I always end up with multiple flatpak-bwrap and flatpak-dbus-pr files owned by init that even kill - 9 won't kill. Every 2nd or 3rd attempt to restart Evolution fails as the starting process "detects" an already running evolution. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 11:39 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 17:13 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via > > > evolution- > > > list wrote: > > > > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) > > > > Linux Mint 20.3 Una > > > > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP > > > > > > > > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen. > > > > > > > > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always > > > > the > > > > same > > > > email message or different > > > > email messages. > > > > > > > > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain > > > > frozen > > > > until > > > > I reboot my laptop, which is > > > > the pain point. > > > > > > > > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ? > > > > > > Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver. > > > > Mate 1.26.0 > > Mesa Drivers 21.2.6 > > X11-server 7.7+8 > > Xorg 7.7+19Ubuntu14 > > I meant to include your video hardware (Intel, AMD, Nvidia ...) and > which kernel driver it uses, e.g. the proprietary Nvidia or the open > source version. However this is relevant mainly if the entire desktop > freezes. It's not clear from your post if that's what's happening, > but > you did mention having to reboot to clear it. *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: 8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@:00:02.0 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 resources: irq:125 memory:b000-b0ff memory:a000-afff ioport:3000(size=64) memory:c-d > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 13:23 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the > > preview > > panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? > > FYI I have seen this myself a few times in Evolution 3.42.x. > The message preview pane freezes. Not Evolution; not the machine. > Disabling and enabling it via Ctrl+M does not help. > Restarting Evolution helps. Haven't found any pattern; also has > happened with local mail on non-remote (POP) mail accounts. > No high CPU usage. Wayland; mesa drivers, Fedora 35. > I would concur. I've occasionally seem message pain freezes and the only way out is to restart Evolution. I've always put it down to specific messages causing problems and I get round it by disabling the preview and deleting the bad message - it's always some inconsequential advertising thing and I suspect it's to do with bad HTML. It happens so rarely these days though. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 07:42 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the > preview > panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? FYI I have seen this myself a few times in Evolution 3.42.x. The message preview pane freezes. Not Evolution; not the machine. Disabling and enabling it via Ctrl+M does not help. Restarting Evolution helps. Haven't found any pattern; also has happened with local mail on non-remote (POP) mail accounts. No high CPU usage. Wayland; mesa drivers, Fedora 35. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 17:13 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via > > evolution- > > list wrote: > > > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) > > > Linux Mint 20.3 Una > > > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP > > > > > > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen. > > > > > > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the > > > same > > > email message or different > > > email messages. > > > > > > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen > > > until > > > I reboot my laptop, which is > > > the pain point. > > > > > > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ? > > > > Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver. > > Mate 1.26.0 > Mesa Drivers 21.2.6 > X11-server 7.7+8 > Xorg 7.7+19Ubuntu14 I meant to include your video hardware (Intel, AMD, Nvidia ...) and which kernel driver it uses, e.g. the proprietary Nvidia or the open source version. However this is relevant mainly if the entire desktop freezes. It's not clear from your post if that's what's happening, but you did mention having to reboot to clear it. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen > until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point. Hi, is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the preview panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? Maybe it's doing something in the background, waiting long enough may recover it. Try to run evolution from a terminal: $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you can move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting. It should work fine, when you run Evolution again, no? If the whole app is frozen, then do: $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution instead of the whole machine restart. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- > list wrote: > > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) > > Linux Mint 20.3 Una > > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP > > > > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen. > > > > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the > > same > > email message or different > > email messages. > > > > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen > > until > > I reboot my laptop, which is > > the pain point. > > > > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ? > > Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver. Mate 1.26.0 Mesa Drivers 21.2.6 X11-server 7.7+8 Xorg 7.7+19Ubuntu14 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) > Linux Mint 20.3 Una > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP > > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen. > > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the > same > email message or different > email messages. > > However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen > until > I reboot my laptop, which is > the pain point. > > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ? Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Freezing Preview pane
Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) Linux Mint 20.3 Una Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen. I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the same email message or different email messages. However, it is a permanent failure. The pane will remain frozen until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point. Anyone else seeing similar behavior ? Thanks. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
