Re: [Evolution] vfolder with both and and or criteria

2009-01-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 23:21 -0800, Scott wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  
  You might be able to play tricks with labels, i.e. a first-level
  filter
  to assign labels to some messages (qual1 or qual2 or qual3), and a
  second filter to select only labelled messages which satisfy further
  criteria (not qual4).
  
  Just thinking aloud here, I've never done it.
  
  poc
 --  I'll try posting to the list this time... Sorry, Patrick..
 
 Yes, that does work, as does filtering to a regular folder and
 creating the fourth level (Search folder) from that.
 
 So.. What's better / special about vfolders(Search Folders) compared to
 regular folders? I'm trying them but still don't quite see the point
 yet.  They still require a filter and a destination folder. Are regular
 folders creating duplicates or using more file space?

If you understand database terminology, a vfolder (or search folder) is
like a database view. If you understand Unix-like filesystems, a vfolder
is somewhat like a set of symbolic links. It's just a collection of
references to messages which all obey a given criterion (the filter). If
you change the filter, the vfolder updates automatically, i.e. it's a
dynamic view, unlike what happens if you just filter incoming mail into
separate real folders. The messages are *not* copies. They remain in
their orginal locations, in fact you can add a column to a vfolder list
pane which shows you where they are. Note that deleting a message from a
vfolder affects the original message (and any other vfolders it might be
in).

The point is twofold: 1) the Trash and Junk folders are vfolders,
which affects the semantics of what you do with them e.g. undeleting a
message from Trash leaves it back where it came from, and 2) it allows a
lot of flexibility in how you organize your mail, e.g. you can have a
vfolder to hold all messages to and from the same person. The downside
is of course that you have to set this up, which could be easier IMHO.

poc

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[Evolution] vfolder with both and and or criteria

2009-01-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell
I need to create a vfolder that has a bunch of or qualifications and
then filter all of those results through another qualification.  So:

(qual1 or qual2 or qual3) and not qual4

I don't think I can do this in a single vfolder.  A vfolder of a vfolder
would do it I guess, but oh yeah... 2.24 dropped the ability to have
vfolders of vfolders (amongst a whole slew of other things
dropped/broken).

Any other ideas?

b.



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Re: [Evolution] vfolder with both and and or criteria

2009-01-23 Thread Internaut at Large
Greetings,

On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 08:36 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 I need to create a vfolder that has a bunch of or qualifications and
 then filter all of those results through another qualification.  So:
 
 (qual1 or qual2 or qual3) and not qual4
 
 I don't think I can do this in a single vfolder.  A vfolder of a vfolder
 would do it I guess, but oh yeah... 2.24 dropped the ability to have
 vfolders of vfolders (amongst a whole slew of other things
 dropped/broken).

Really?  *sigh*  Yet another reason I have not yet upgraded from 2.22
*sigh*  Why does it seem that on many things I use/need, evolution keeps
going backward?  First MHMailboxes, now vfolders of vfolders?

-dkap


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Re: [Evolution] vfolder with both and and or criteria

2009-01-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 08:36 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 I need to create a vfolder that has a bunch of or qualifications and
 then filter all of those results through another qualification.  So:
 
 (qual1 or qual2 or qual3) and not qual4
 
 I don't think I can do this in a single vfolder.  A vfolder of a vfolder
 would do it I guess, but oh yeah... 2.24 dropped the ability to have
 vfolders of vfolders (amongst a whole slew of other things
 dropped/broken).
 
 Any other ideas?

You might be able to play tricks with labels, i.e. a first-level filter
to assign labels to some messages (qual1 or qual2 or qual3), and a
second filter to select only labelled messages which satisfy further
criteria (not qual4).

Just thinking aloud here, I've never done it.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] vfolder with both and and or criteria

2009-01-23 Thread Scott
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 You might be able to play tricks with labels, i.e. a first-level
 filter
 to assign labels to some messages (qual1 or qual2 or qual3), and a
 second filter to select only labelled messages which satisfy further
 criteria (not qual4).
 
 Just thinking aloud here, I've never done it.
 
 poc
--  I'll try posting to the list this time... Sorry, Patrick..

Yes, that does work, as does filtering to a regular folder and
creating the fourth level (Search folder) from that.

So.. What's better / special about vfolders(Search Folders) compared to
regular folders? I'm trying them but still don't quite see the point
yet.  They still require a filter and a destination folder. Are regular
folders creating duplicates or using more file space?

SR


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