Re: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

2016-11-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
:-)  I'm still a big fan of it. I can't stop loving the ability to craft
such an extremely wide range of custom filters.  It's admittedly not the
easiest thing in the world though.

--
Espi


On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>
wrote:

> Espi used to be a huge proponent of ASSP – and I presume he still is. J
>
>
>
> Commercially, Vircom’s modusGate and Fortinet’s Fortimail will allow you
> to do this. I’m sure there are others.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:07 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux
>
>
>
> It's not the standard answer, but there are free regex filtering proxy
> apps that can easily do that while running on the same Exchange server
> hardware.  Expect a bit of a learning curve, but free, and could open you
> to explore technologies not currently in your repertoire.
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com>
> wrote:
>
> While we’re on the subject.
>
> Does anyone’s solution has the ability to block emails that are using
> ?utf-8? in the subject line?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph L. Casale
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:14 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] Spam solutions
>
>
>
> I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server
>  2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the
> new year.
>
> That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my
> understanding that will go away. It’s also not the most inspiring product
> really…
>
>
>
> They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix
> rules on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the
> upgrade.
>
>
>
> What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to
> recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange
> server however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server.
> The only nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message
> on their own.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any opinions?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> jlc
>
>
>

RE: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

2016-11-16 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Espi used to be a huge proponent of ASSP – and I presume he still is. ☺

Commercially, Vircom’s modusGate and Fortinet’s Fortimail will allow you to do 
this. I’m sure there are others.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:07 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

It's not the standard answer, but there are free regex filtering proxy apps 
that can easily do that while running on the same Exchange server hardware.  
Expect a bit of a learning curve, but free, and could open you to explore 
technologies not currently in your repertoire.

--
Espi


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
<pmaglin...@scvl.com<mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>> wrote:
While we’re on the subject.
Does anyone’s solution has the ability to block emails that are using ?utf-8? 
in the subject line?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It’s also not the most inspiring product 
really…

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

Re: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

2016-11-16 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
It's not the standard answer, but there are free regex filtering proxy apps
that can easily do that while running on the same Exchange server
hardware.  Expect a bit of a learning curve, but free, and could open you
to explore technologies not currently in your repertoire.

--
Espi


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:

> While we’re on the subject.
>
> Does anyone’s solution has the ability to block emails that are using
> ?utf-8? in the subject line?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph L. Casale
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:14 PM
> *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [Exchange] Spam solutions
>
>
>
> I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server
>  2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the
> new year.
>
> That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my
> understanding that will go away. It’s also not the most inspiring product
> really…
>
>
>
> They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix
> rules on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the
> upgrade.
>
>
>
> What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to
> recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange
> server however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server.
> The only nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message
> on their own.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any opinions?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> jlc
>

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

2016-11-14 Thread Michael B. Smith 
I have just recently begun using the FortiMail appliances at a particular 
client and they have these capabilities.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Maglinger, Paul
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 10:13 AM
To: 'exchange@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions - part deux

While we're on the subject.
Does anyone's solution has the ability to block emails that are using ?utf-8? 
in the subject line?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
Would be curious why.  First guess is on the large end their stuff gets 
expensive.  It doesn't seem to scale large very well on the cost side.  We are 
facing the same issue on their web filter side.  We have their second largest 
web filter.  If we ever have to go up to the next size we will be switching, 
it's insane money. Not close yet, but we know they never use less bandwidth, 
they only use more.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 5:30 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

I don't typically get involved in these kinds of solutions with my large 
clients (they have specific reasons for choosing specific solutions, and I am 
the AD/Exchange/Server guy); but I've had 3 larger clients drop Barracuda in 
the last year. Two went to Proofpoint and one went to Jatheon. I have no skin 
in the game, at all, but I was surprised by this.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:19 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

Barracuda.  Been a very happy customer of theirs for 15 years or so. The have 
appliances of different sizes, I prefer that route, VM's or even in the cloud 
if you are into that kind of thing.

Best vendor support I have ever had.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:17 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Joseph Schvarcz 
They charge per domain and per user, $50 min charge a month
10-20 a domain (not sure which), $1 a user

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:00 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

What's their pricing roughly like? I have sent an inquiry but I am just curious 
in the meantime.

Thanks,
jlc

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Schvarcz
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 6:18 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

+1 for Appriver, I use them for all my clients
Good support when needed, daily  report emails to end user

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rick Berry
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 4:58 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

I prefer cloud solutions, like appriver or Symantec.cloud (messagelabs stuff).

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Joseph Schvarcz 
+1 for Appriver, I use them for all my clients
Good support when needed, daily  report emails to end user

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Berry
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 4:58 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

I prefer cloud solutions, like appriver or Symantec.cloud (messagelabs stuff).

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Michael B. Smith 
I don't typically get involved in these kinds of solutions with my large 
clients (they have specific reasons for choosing specific solutions, and I am 
the AD/Exchange/Server guy); but I've had 3 larger clients drop Barracuda in 
the last year. Two went to Proofpoint and one went to Jatheon. I have no skin 
in the game, at all, but I was surprised by this.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:19 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

Barracuda.  Been a very happy customer of theirs for 15 years or so. The have 
appliances of different sizes, I prefer that route, VM's or even in the cloud 
if you are into that kind of thing.

Best vendor support I have ever had.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:17 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Doug Barrett 
SMG +1

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Damien Solodow
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:21 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

I know it has the bad word, but Symantec Messaging Gateway is quite nice.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Senior Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Damien Solodow 
I know it has the bad word, but Symantec Messaging Gateway is quite nice.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Senior Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:14 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc

[Exchange] RE: Spam solutions

2016-10-06 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
Barracuda.  Been a very happy customer of theirs for 15 years or so. The have 
appliances of different sizes, I prefer that route, VM's or even in the cloud 
if you are into that kind of thing.

Best vendor support I have ever had.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:17 PM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Spam solutions

I have a company I do work for where I am planning a windows server  
2008r2/exchange 2013 upgrade to windows server 2016/exchange 2016 in the new 
year.
That being said, they currently use forefront for exchange and it is my 
understanding that will go away. It's also not the most inspiring product 
really...

They want a more complete spam solution than what we already use (postfix rules 
on a gateway) so I need to acquire something that I can use after the upgrade.

What are people currently recommending for 50 user sites? I am open to 
recommendations, historically I blocked spam before it hit the exchange server 
however I am open to placing that and the AV on the exchange server. The only 
nice to have is a user accessible way to un-quarantine a message on their own.

Anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!
jlc