subject:"RE\: Antigen"

Title: Message



William, are you saying the latest release has an 
updated GUI?

  -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  Why 
  should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. 
  [1]
  
  [1] 
  and they know it and have already fixed it
  
  
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
It 
is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the 
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking 
at it.

  
  -Original Message-From: David N. 
  Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it
  

-Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate 
it.

  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 
  12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
  Really? 
  I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my 
  complaint throughout the entire eval process.
  

-Original Message-From: Ellery July 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also 
think that Trend works well.


ellery 
july phone - 651-225-3895  

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Stephen J. Norton 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Antigen
  
Ladies and 
Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few 
months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my 
absence but I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for 
Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I 
finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion 
update. Thanks.
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Re: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread John Riley

Title: Message



I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in 
December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains 
itself quite well.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Martin Blackstone 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Antigen
  
  Really? I have 
  found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
  throughout the entire eval process.
  

-Original Message-From: Ellery July 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
I 
use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend 
works well.


ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm 
SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need 
to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box 
virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget 
approval and would appreciate an opinion update. 
Thanks.
SteveList 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Karen Palmer

Title: Message



I love 
Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every 
used.


-Original Message-From: John Riley 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:58 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: 
Antigen
I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in 
December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains 
itself quite well.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Martin Blackstone 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Antigen
  
  Really? I have 
  found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
  throughout the entire eval process.
  

-Original Message-From: Ellery July 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
I 
use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend 
works well.


ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm 
SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need 
to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box 
virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget 
approval and would appreciate an opinion update. 
Thanks.
SteveList 
  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Gary Gregg

Title: Message









We love it here too no probs at all just
install and let it get on with it!!!



-Original
Message-
From: Karen Palmer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002
3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen





I love
Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every used.















-Original Message-
From: John Riley
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002
9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Antigen



I installed Antigen on my MSExchange
server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and
maintains itself quite well.







- Original Message - 





From: Martin Blackstone 





To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 





Sent: Tuesday,
March 12, 2002 3:06 PM





Subject: RE: Antigen











Really? I have
found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout
the entire eval process.





-Original
Message-
From: Ellery July
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002
12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen



I use
Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works
well.

















ellery july

phone - 651-225-3895 
 



-Original
Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen





Ladies
and Gentlemen;





Been
away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat
to death in my absence but I need to pose the question:





Is
Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion
update. Thanks.





Steve





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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Mark Kelsay

Title: RE: Virus









You really can't go wrong with either
antigen or Trend. They are both good.





Mark



-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:54
PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen







Ladies and Gentlemen;





Been away from the list
for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my
absence but I need to pose the question:





Is Antigen still the
choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I
finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks.





Steve





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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office IT

Title: Message



Ditto 
here. The only minor annoyance is that it's automatic updating won't 
authenticate through our proxy server so we had to manually configurea 
place to pick up the updates. We manually drop them there and all our 
servers pick them up. Otherwise, excellent product.

Steve

  
  -Original Message-From: Gary Gregg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:00 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  
  We love it here too 
  no probs at all just install and let it get on with 
  it!!!
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Karen 
  Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:00 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  
  
  I love 
  Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every 
  used.
  
  
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: John Riley 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:58 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Re: 
  Antigen
  
  I installed Antigen on my 
  MSExchange server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It 
  updates and maintains itself quite well.
  

- Original Message - 


From: Martin Blackstone 


To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 

Sent: 
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 PM

Subject: RE: 
Antigen



Really? I have 
found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
throughout the entire eval process.
-Original 
  Message-From: Ellery 
  July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  
  I 
  use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that 
  Trend works well.
  
  
  
  
  ellery 
  july phone 
  - 651-225-3895  
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 
PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
Antigen

  
  Ladies and 
  Gentlemen;
  
  Been away 
  from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and 
  beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the 
  question:
  
  Is Antigen 
  still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running 
  InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate 
  an opinion update. Thanks.
  
  Steve
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Kelly_Borndale



Antigen has multiple engines.  Which is a nice feature.  However, we are
strictly an Exchange/Notes product.

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately.
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen

Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has
been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to
pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection?
Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval
and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Ray Zorz

Sorry. Those are nice features. Most of the comments have been
administrative rather than performance.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Antigen has multiple engines.  Which is a nice feature.  However, we are
strictly an Exchange/Notes product.

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately.
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen

Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has
been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to
pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection?
Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval
and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Clark, Steve


So sorry to hear that.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Antigen has multiple engines.  Which is a nice feature.  However, we are
strictly an Exchange/Notes product.

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately.
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen

Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has
been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to
pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection?
Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval
and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
  List Charter and FAQ at:
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen

Title: Message



That 
is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new 
GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content 
filtering.

Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send 
you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation.


  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  William, are you saying the latest release has an 
  updated GUI?
  
-Original Message-From: William Lefkovics 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
8:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal? It 
is woefully inadequate. [1]

[1] and they know it and have already fixed 
it


  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My 
  dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade 
  anyone from looking at it.
  

-Original Message-From: David N. 
Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 
12, 2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
mine too. Thats one reason I dont have 
it

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen 
  J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 
  12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
  Thanks to all. I appreciate 
  it.
  
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 
March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That 
has been my complaint throughout the entire eval 
process.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
  March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
  I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but 
  also think that Trend works well.
  
  
  ellery 
  july phone - 651-225-3895  
  

-Original 
Message-From: Stephen J. Norton 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Antigen

  Ladies and 
  Gentlemen;
  Been away from the list for a few 
  months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in 
  my absence but I need to pose the 
question:
  Is Antigen still the choice for 
  Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. 
  I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion 
  update. Thanks.
  SteveList 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Clark, Steve


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
 
That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.
 
Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.
 
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]
 
[1] and they know it and have already fixed it
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.
 
 
ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
  
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed
and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an
opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
 
That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.
 
Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.
 
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]
 
[1] and they know it and have already fixed it
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.
 
 
ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
  
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed
and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an
opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen


Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover
if necessary.
Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
 
That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.
 
Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.
 
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]
 
[1] and they know it and have already fixed it
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.
 
 
ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
  
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed
and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an
opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen


William that's not the recommendation I was hoping to hear. You're a funny
guy. I'm not running unicenter. So I take it you feel that you can't run
them both concurrently and uninstalling InnocualteIT will trash the server?
Say it isn't so!!

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover
if necessary.
Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
 
That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.
 
Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.
 
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]
 
[1] and they know it and have already fixed it
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.
 
 
ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
  
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed
and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an
opinion update. Thanks.
Steve
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor.

Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the
Exchange agents.  But we don't want to bring that up again...


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and
an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products.
Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr.
Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this
list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers
having problems

As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to
approach the numbers

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover
if necessary.
Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
-

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

It's good to see that even being away from the list for a few months CA
still bites. Some things will never change.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and
an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products.
Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr.
Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this
list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers
having problems

As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to
approach the numbers

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover
if necessary.
Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.

Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]

[1] and they know it and have already fixed it

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.

ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject

RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater
functionality.

But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like:
BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management
solution.

Industry-leading???  searches for vomit bag

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our
William?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor.

Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with
the Exchange agents.  But we don't want to bring that up again...


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2
and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their
products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments
from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA
forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of
the customers having problems

As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to
approach the numbers

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to
recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange
and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been
the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
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RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Title: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack





LOL


They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny. Shouldn't they be on the phone handling customer service calls?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack


I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater
functionality.


But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like:
BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management
solution.


Industry-leading??? searches for vomit bag


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack



Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our
William?


--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Did I just say that out loud?



-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack



Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor.


Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with
the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again...



-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack



FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2
and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their
products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments
from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA
forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of
the customers having problems


As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to
approach the numbers


Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
 301-610-9584 voice
 240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.



-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Oh goodness. 


Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to
recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?


William



-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen



While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange
and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been
the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen



Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.

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RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

Title: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

I like
the forum monitoring idea.

Many
of us represent the users of the applications and not always the decision
makers.

I like
the notion of getting the opinions of those of us sentenced to administering CA
products in an attempt to address product short-comings.

Kudos
to CA for making that effort.

-Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:09
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen/ CA
thread hijack
LOL
They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny.
Shouldn't they be on the phone handling customer service calls?
-Original Message- From:
William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has
greater functionality.
But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms
like: "BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end
storage management solution."
Industry-leading??? searches for vomit
bag
-Original Message- From: Kevin
Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done
with our William?
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud?
-Original Message- From:
William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT
predecessor.
Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal
effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't
want to bring that up again...
-Original Message- From:
Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/
CA thread hijack
FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone
call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone
asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently,
they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an
QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at
least respond to some of the customers having
problems
As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's
not safe to approach the numbers
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-Original Message- From:
William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:
RE: Antigen
Oh goodness.
Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of
time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to
de-unicenter this server?
William
-Original Message- From:
Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Antigen
While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for
Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange
server? If not, what has been the experience of
un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve
-Original Message- From:
Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Antigen
Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
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RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

2002-03-13 Thread Clark, Steve


My comments exactly. I even gave them an email address of an individual who
is having problems (and contact me - like I knew how to fix it) so they
could contact. No response.
 
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
 
LOL 
They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny. Shouldn't they
be on the phone handling customer service calls?
-Original Message- 
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack 
I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater 
functionality. 
But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like: 
BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management 
solution. 
Industry-leading???  searches for vomit bag 
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack 
 
Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our 
William? 
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
Did I just say that out loud? 
 
-Original Message- 
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack 
 
Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. 
Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with 
the Exchange agents.  But we don't want to bring that up again... 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack 
 
FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 
and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their 
products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments 
from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA 
forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of 
the customers having problems 
As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to 
approach the numbers 
Steve Clark 
Clark Systems Support, LLC 
AVIEN Charter Member 
Who's watching your network? 
www.clarksupport.com 
301-610-9584 voice 
240-465-0323 Efax 
  
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark 
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information 
and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the 
prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen 
Oh goodness.  
Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to 
recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? 
William 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen 
 
While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange 
and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been 
the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve 
-Original Message- 
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Antigen 
 
Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. 
  
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RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

2002-03-13 Thread David N Precht

Damn.

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 14:42
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack

FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2
and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their
products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments
from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA
forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of
the customers having problems

As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to
approach the numbers

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
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and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the
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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to
recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange
and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been
the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.

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Clark Systems Support, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen

That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March
has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content
filtering.

Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]

[1] and they know it and have already fixed it

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of
the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from
looking at it. -Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been
my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original
Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.

ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 

-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been
addressed

RE: Antigen

2002-03-13 Thread Erickson, David


Did that a couple of month's ago -- had a 30 day trial of antigen running
then purchased it and dumped InocuCrap.  It did require a reboot (exch 5.5)
and had to do some manual file deletion -- did get a bump on performance
though and getting rid of CA software was worth it.

Dave

David Erickson, IT
BWBR Architects
St. Paul, MN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


No, it should be fine.  Uninstalling Antigen goes much smoother.

I did have some problems with InoculateIT not uninstalling cleanly.  There
is some manual deleting to do.
Nothing too serious.

I would ensure you had a good backup.  And I am 98% sure a reboot is
required for uninstalling InoculateIT.


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


William that's not the recommendation I was hoping to hear. You're a funny
guy. I'm not running unicenter. So I take it you feel that you can't run
them both concurrently and uninstalling InnocualteIT will trash the server?
Say it isn't so!!

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Oh goodness.  

Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover
if necessary.
Do you also need to de-unicenter this server?

William


-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and
Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the
experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again.
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen


Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
 
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
 
That is my understanding.  Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a
new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering.
 
Contact your local sales rep.  He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint
presentation.
 
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI?
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Why should that necessarily be personal?  It is woefully inadequate. [1]
 
[1] and they know it and have already fixed it
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the
GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking
at it.
-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
mine too.  Thats one reason I dont have it
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my
complaint throughout the entire eval process.
-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that
Trend works well.
 
 
ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
  
-Original Message-
From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin

RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Ray Zorz

Title: RE: Virus



Lots 
of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately. 


  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE 
this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose 
the question:
Is 
Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running 
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an 
opinion update. Thanks.
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

Title: Message



Antigen and 
Trend. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:54 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE 
this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose 
the question:
Is 
Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running 
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an 
opinion update. Thanks.
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Karen Palmer




I have 
never used Trend, but can tell you that Antigen is orders of magnitude better 
than Nortons.

Karen
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Ellery July

Title: Message



I use 
Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works 
well.


ellery july phone - 651-225-3895  

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
  1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE 
this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose 
the question:
Is 
Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running 
InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an 
opinion update. Thanks.
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

Title: Message



Really? I have 
found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout 
the entire eval process.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ellery July 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  I 
  use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend 
  works well.
  
  
  ellery july 
  phone - 651-225-3895 
   
  

-Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
Antigen

  Ladies and Gentlemen;
  Been away from the list for a few months. I'm 
  SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to 
  pose the question:
  Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box 
  virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget 
  approval and would appreciate an opinion update. 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Stephen J. Norton

Title: Message



Thanks 
to all. I appreciate it.

  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  Really? I have 
  found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
  throughout the entire eval process.
  

-Original Message-From: Ellery July 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
I 
use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend 
works well.


ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. I'm 
SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need 
to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box 
virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget 
approval and would appreciate an opinion update. 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread David N. Precht

Title: Message



mine 
too. Thats one reason I dont have it

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
  17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  Thanks to all. I appreciate it.
  
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
Really? I 
have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
throughout the entire eval process.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ellery July 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think 
  that Trend works well.
  
  
  ellery july 
  phone - 651-225-3895 
   
  

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2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
Antigen

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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

Title: Message



It is 
a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a 
personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at 
it.

  
  -Original Message-From: David N. Precht 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  mine 
  too. Thats one reason I dont have it
  

-Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 
17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
Thanks to all. I appreciate it.

  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  Really? I 
  have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint 
  throughout the entire eval process.
  

-Original Message-From: Ellery July 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also 
think that Trend works well.


ellery july 
phone - 651-225-3895 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen 
  J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 
  12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Antigen
  
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Been away from the list for a few months. 
I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but 
I need to pose the question:
Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange 
box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got 
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RE: Antigen

2002-03-12 Thread William Lefkovics

Title: Message



Why 
should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. 
[1]

[1] 
and they know it and have already fixed it


  -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  It 
  is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI 
  is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at 
  it.
  

-Original Message-From: David N. 
Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen
mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephen J. 
  Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 
  2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  Thanks to all. I appreciate 
  it.
  
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 
12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
Really? I 
have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my 
complaint throughout the entire eval process.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ellery July 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen
  I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also 
  think that Trend works well.
  
  
  ellery july 
  phone - 651-225-3895 
   
  

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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-08 Thread Boswell Tim

This lasted til month end when we put it in - Accounts 01.Jan.02.doc 200
times meant it quickly got cancelled. 
-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 February 2002 22:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Michel, David


We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to hide
extensions of well-known file types on their pc's.  Thus, when they save,
for example, a Word document the .doc extension gets hidden but most people
seem to forget that it's hidden and save with the extension such as
test.doc.  Therefore, the filename of the document actually is
test.doc.doc which gets picked up by this filter.  They then send this
document to your user and your user gets pissy that everything gets blocked.
You then have to have that user make sure exactly what they were expecting
and from who if you want to be safe before releasing it.  Just an FYI.  Hope
it helps.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Leone, Michael

Title: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?





 We use this filter and the only downside is that many people 
 choose to hide extensions of well-known file types on their pc's. Thus, 


They don't choose to hide; it's the default, and most people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a user.



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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Michel, David

Title: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?

You're
sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin here at my
company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's friends and
business associates have set on their home and office computers. Also, I
forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO settings that allow me
tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in airports and coffee
bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I really
appreciate it.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07,
2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?
We use this filter and the only downside is that many
people choose to "hide extensions of well-known
file types" on their pc's. Thus,
They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most people
don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any
half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a
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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Martin Blackstone

Title: Message



ROFL!!

  
  -Original Message-From: Michel, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 
  7:39 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen 
  filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?
  You're sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin 
  here at my company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's 
  friends and business associates have set on their home and office 
  computers. Also, I forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO 
  settings that allow me tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in 
  airports and coffee bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of 
  this. I really appreciate it.
  
-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 
2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
    Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?
 We use this filter and the only downside is that many 
people  choose to "hide extensions of well-known 
file types" on their pc's. Thus, 
They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most 
people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. 
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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Leone, Michael

Title: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?



Very 
witty. Doesn't invalidate my statement that the people who have 
thissetting turned onusually do so because of ignorance of the 
consequences, and not by choice.
No, 
you can't control home PCs. You might be able to complain to the owners of the 
Internet kiosks to properly reconfigure those PCs, if you notice a trend coming 
from any in particular. 

The 
way you respond to this situation is exactly the way I would respond. I was 
merely pointing out the error in that *1* statement - that users "choose" that 
setting. In my experience, it's almost never a "choice". Which is why I 
commented only on that *1* portion of your post, and not on how to deal with it 
afterwards.

--

Michael Leone, Systems Administrator
Philadelphia Contributionship
210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 
19106
mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V: 215-627-1752 x1282
F: 215-627-5354

  -Original Message-From: Michel, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 
  10:39 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen 
  filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?
  You're sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin 
  here at my company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's 
  friends and business associates have set on their home and office 
  computers. Also, I forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO 
  settings that allow me tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in 
  airports and coffee bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of 
  this. I really appreciate it.
  
-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 
2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?
 We use this filter and the only downside is that many 
people  choose to "hide extensions of well-known 
file types" on their pc's. Thus, 
They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most 
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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Bill Kuhn - MCSE


I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Wendel, Jesse


Actually, no.

The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get
through.  This is a known bug.  It works properly on the Realtime and Manual
scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk.

I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs.

This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet
Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was
grabbing it.  Antigen is working on a fix.  In the meantime, Premium Support
has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com.

For more information, contact Sybari directly.

Best,

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Messaging Analyst
www.pse.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend?  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

Actually, no.

The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get
through.  This is a known bug.  It works properly on the Realtime and Manual
scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk.

I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs.

This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet
Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was
grabbing it.  Antigen is working on a fix.  In the meantime, Premium Support
has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com.

For more information, contact Sybari directly.

Best,

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Messaging Analyst
www.pse.com

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Allen Crawford

I don't know for sure, but I do know that MyParty got blocked on our
ScanMail just fine with *.COM being blocked.

 -Original Message-
From:   Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend?  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

Actually, no.

The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get
through.  This is a known bug.  It works properly on the Realtime and Manual
scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk.

I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs.

This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet
Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was
grabbing it.  Antigen is working on a fix.  In the meantime, Premium Support
has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com.

For more information, contact Sybari directly.

Best,

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Messaging Analyst
www.pse.com

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Mark L. Kelsay


Well I must have a special release of Antigen.  I filter with *.extension (*.com, 
*.bat ect...) and Antigen catches all of them.  Any place I can read about this bug?  
I have not seen this issue.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


Actually, no.

The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get
through.  This is a known bug.  It works properly on the Realtime and Manual
scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk.

I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs.

This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet
Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was
grabbing it.  Antigen is working on a fix.  In the meantime, Premium Support
has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com.

For more information, contact Sybari directly.

Best,

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Messaging Analyst
www.pse.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?


We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-07 Thread Arnold, Jamie

Sorry...not on my boxen.  *.com gets all iterations.

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend?  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

Actually, no.

The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get
through.  This is a known bug.  It works properly on the Realtime and Manual
scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk.

I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs.

This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet
Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was
grabbing it.  Antigen is working on a fix.  In the meantime, Premium Support
has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com.

For more information, contact Sybari directly.

Best,

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Messaging Analyst
www.pse.com

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to
filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Antigen filter ..* - worthwhile?

2002-02-06 Thread Arnold, Jamie

I've filtered *.jpg, among others, for yearsThis filter grabs the double
extension files.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?

We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by Sybari
support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
*.*.* attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler  Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

2002-02-05 Thread Senter, John M

No problems here.  I just upgraded the production servers last week.

js

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From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems?  We need to upgrade
(due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before
jumping.

Kerry Vosswinkel 
Systems Manager 
Fort Lewis College  Durango  CO 
vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu 
(970) 247-7345 

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RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

2002-02-05 Thread Kelsey, John


We're running 842 and seeing problems with 'Unknown' senders and recipients in the 
notifications.

-Original Message-
From: Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?


No problems here.  I just upgraded the production servers last week.

js

-Original Message-
From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?


Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems?  We need to upgrade
(due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before
jumping.

Kerry Vosswinkel 
Systems Manager 
Fort Lewis College  Durango  CO 
vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu 
(970) 247-7345 

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RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

2002-02-04 Thread Jennifer Baker

None here, but you may want to test your own water.

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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems?  We need to upgrade
(due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before
jumping.

Kerry Vosswinkel 
Systems Manager 
Fort Lewis College  Durango  CO 
vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu 
(970) 247-7345 

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RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

2002-02-04 Thread Clark, Steve


I have seen more timeouts during the update downloads. I had 1 of these from
3 offices since the initial install, now since upgrading to 842, I've had 3
in the past week. Have a case into support to resolve which has always
worked well. But, why do I continue to get timeouts - the connections are
fine and I've increased the timeout from the reg as they recommended.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax
 
The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark
Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and
shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior
written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.


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From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?

Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems?  We need to upgrade
(due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before
jumping.

Kerry Vosswinkel 
Systems Manager 
Fort Lewis College  Durango  CO 
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(970) 247-7345 

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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-14 Thread Simon Curtiss


So do I use ISA for this  - could of used my firewall instead to to block
the Mesenger/ICQ side I suppose. There was a list of ip addresses  ports
posted to the list a while back, I'll have a look for it on Monday when I'm
back in the office unless someone has posted it before me.


Night all - it's 2:15 am here in NZ and I only logged in to see if there was
an e-mail from a friend, so why I'm doing THIS I have no idea! dedication?
or stupidity?

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 14 December 2001 7:30 p.m.
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Off topic.. But I use ISA ..

B

-Original Message-
From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 December 2001 08:26
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Antigen vs. ScanMail


How would I go about blocking things like this? Use an entry in the local
DNS pointing to a custom web page maybe?

Regards,... Greg

- Original Message -
From: Simon Curtiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


 heh heh heh - Did that about two months ago -  a few complaints for a
while,
 now it's accepted. MSN Mesenger  ICQ etc also blocked

  -Original Message-
  From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, 14 December 2001 2:26 p.m.
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
  Two jobs ago, the Security dept blocked AOL.com, hotmail.com,
  yahoo.com,
  etc. So that was that...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 18:24
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
  Sounds like you may have a communications problem.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:41 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
  Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer
  viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail
  accounts like
  Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the
  users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a
  hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer
  virus
 
  sigh
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
   Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and
  hammering your
   point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does
  also help...
 
   the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this
   attachment ok to open
  
   later
   Brent
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
   We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's
  wannabe
   version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message
   attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before
  the goner
   virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to
  configure.
   Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install:
   The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you
  installed
   it with.and of course it is not in their documentation,
  but IS on
   their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after
   totally un-installing and re-installing because you think
  you've made
   a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the
   lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the
   individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work.
   So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines
  without
   too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product
  first before
   it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty
   quickly to the machines when they come online in the am.
   The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes,
  you
   can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily.
   It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a
  wise
   decision! *grin*
  
   Two thumbs up to Trend!!
  
   Smile Lots!
   Cameron
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Crouthamel, Jonathan
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
   Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie
  updating
   desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a
   similar product to NAI's EPO?
  
   Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been
  narrowed down
   to two products.
  
   Jonathan
  
   -Original Message

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-14 Thread John Matteson


This sounds exactly like a Dilbert cartoon I have on my wall.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses,
please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or
Hotmail from the corporate desktop.
What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from
someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a
computer virus

sigh


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RE: Antigen and NAV MSE

2001-12-14 Thread David N. Precht

Title: Message

How to manually uninstall Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft
ExchangeSituation:In the event of a failed
installation of Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange (NAVMSE), it may be
necessary to manually remove the program to install NAVMSE cleanly.Solution:This document provides detailed
instructions for manually removing all NAVMSE components from:

Microsoft Exchange
Mail control panel
The registry
The hard drive
The Start menuNOTES:

The steps provided in this document should be used only in circumstances
where NAVMSE cannot be uninstalled through conventional means.
You must stop the NAVMSE service before uninstalling.To
remove the NAVMSE public folder and mailbox from Microsoft Exchange:
1. Double-click the Inbox icon on the desktop.2. Login with the NAVMSE
account.NOTE: If you were not prompted to login with a
particular profile, then click the File menu, and then click Exit and Log Off.
Open Inbox again, and then login with the NAVMSE account.3.
Double-click Public Folders in the left window.4. Double-click All Public
Folders.5. Delete the NAVMSE public folder.6. Click the File menu, and
then click Exit and Log Off.To remove the NAVMSE mailbox from
Exchange:
1. Open the Microsoft Exchange Administrator.2. Click Recipients at
the bottom of the left pane.3. Delete the NAVMSE mailbox in the right
pane.NOTE: If you do not see the NAVMSE mailbox, then click the
View menu, and then click Hidden Recipients.To remove the NAVMSE
mail profile:
1. Open the Control Panel, and then click Mail.2. Click Show
Profiles.3. Select the Norton AntiVirus for Exchange profile, and then
click Remove.To remove NAVMSE from the
registry:CAUTION: We strongly recommend that you back up your
system registry before making any changes. Incorrect changes to your registry
could result in permanent data loss or corrupted files. Please make sure you
modify only the keys specified. Please see How to Back Up Your Windows Registry before
proceeding.
1. Open the Registry Editor.2. Delete the following registry
keys:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Symantec\NAVMSEHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NavExchangeHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Norton
Antivirus for Microsoft ExchangeTo remove NAVMSE from the hard
drive:
1. Open Windows Explorer.2. Delete the C:\Program Files\NAVMSE
folder.3. Delete the following file:C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Symantec Shared\Navmse.isu4. If NAVMSE is the only Symantec program
installed on the computer, then you may also delete the following folders:

C:\Program Files\Symantec
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefsTo remove NAVMSE from the Start menu:
1. Open Windows Explorer.2. Delete the following
folder:C:\WINNT\Profies\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Norton AntiVirus
for Microsoft Exchange
Product(s): Norton AntiVirus for MS
Exchange 1.0, Norton AntiVirus for MS Exchange 2.0Operating System(s): Document ID: 1998112417220548Date Created: 11/24/98Last
Modified: 03/05/2001

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I am currently running NAV MSE 2.17 on my NT 4 SP6a
Exchange 5.5 SP4 box. Do any of you know if I can install Antigen on top
of what is there, or will it mess things up?
I am about totally sick of NAV and need to find
something better. I hear that Antigen or Trend is the way to go.
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Bob t. Berge


First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means.
Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore 
zipfile contends.
So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me.

Thank you very much in advance,

Bob

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.
 
 -Michèle
 Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
 The Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
 Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
 -
 The one function that TV news performs very well is that 
 when there is no
 news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there 
 were. -David
 Brinkley 
 -
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
  
 I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another 
 (yes i got it
 working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
 From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
 except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
 attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
 extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
 looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make
 sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
 But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep
 compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give
 you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which 
 removes the
 filtered extensions from compressed files also.
  
 The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.
  
 I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k
 server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that
 ScanMail does have.
  
 Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what
 you want to do with the info ;)
  
 Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's
 Belgian).
  
 Greets,
  
 Bob
  
  
 
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Neil Hobson


IIRC = If I Remember Correctly.

AFAIK, this is the best site for this:

http://www.acronymfinder.com

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means.
Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY
way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then
please be so kind and enlighten me.

Thank you very much in advance,

Bob

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.
 
 -Michèle
 Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
 The Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
 Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
 -
 The one function that TV news performs very well is that
 when there is no
 news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there 
 were. -David
 Brinkley 
 -
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
  
 I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another
 (yes i got it
 working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
 From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
 except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
 attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
 extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
 looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make
 sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
 But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep
 compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give
 you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which 
 removes the
 filtered extensions from compressed files also.
  
 The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.
  
 I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k 
 server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that 
 ScanMail does have.
  
 Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what 
 you want to do with the info ;)
  
 Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's 
 Belgian).
  
 Greets,
  
 Bob
  
  
 
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Bob t. Berge


Thanks!! :)

PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the 
answer I was looking for ;)

Thanks for that Michèle!! 

Bob

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 IIRC = If I Remember Correctly.
 
 AFAIK, this is the best site for this:
 
 http://www.acronymfinder.com
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51
 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
 Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means.
 Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i 
 canNOT find ANY
 way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then
 please be so kind and enlighten me.
 
 Thank you very much in advance,
 
 Bob
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.
  
  -Michèle
  Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
  The Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
  Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
  -
  The one function that TV news performs very well is that
  when there is no
  news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there 
  were. -David
  Brinkley 
  -
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
   
  I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another
  (yes i got it
  working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
  From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
  except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
  attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
  extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
  looking at the extension but also checking the file's 
 headers to make
  sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
  But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep
  compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, 
 hence give
  you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which 
  removes the
  filtered extensions from compressed files also.
   
  The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.
   
  I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k 
  server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that 
  ScanMail does have.
   
  Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about 
 em, do what 
  you want to do with the info ;)
   
  Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's 
  Belgian).
   
  Greets,
   
  Bob
   
   
  
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
The Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no
news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David
Brinkley
-


-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.

I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it
working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make
sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep
compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give
you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the
filtered extensions from compressed files also.

The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.

I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k
server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that
ScanMail does have.

Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what
you want to do with the info ;)

Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's
Belgian).

Greets,

Bob



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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread John Matteson


A better management console?

When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor

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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Bolser_Scott


I agree with John.  For corporations with a large amount of servers to
manage, it is far to difficult to manage a large amount of servers without a
central management console especially when a virus makes the rounds and file
filtering or dat updates need to be pushed out to all servers.  I have seen
the beta of the Sybari console and it still needs some major work to be used
successfully.  

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


A better management console?

When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And
what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor

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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



I know the beta has a global rollout template.  I think it has the global
console, but I have only one server, and haven't been involved in testing
(poor me!  too busy with my actual job to help out with testing!).
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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A better management console?

When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor

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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)

2001-12-13 Thread Micciche, Robert

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)





Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp?

PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



A better management console?


When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?


John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981


With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan


We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into
antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick
perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as
desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how
have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI,
getting all the needed products from one vendor.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail


Thanks!! :)

PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and
found the answer I was looking for ;)

Thanks for that Michèle!! 

Bob

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 IIRC = If I Remember Correctly.
 
 AFAIK, this is the best site for this:
 
 http://www.acronymfinder.com
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51
 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
 Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means.
 Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i 
 canNOT find ANY
 way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then
 please be so kind and enlighten me.
 
 Thank you very much in advance,
 
 Bob
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.
  
  -Michèle
  Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
  The Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
  Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
  -
  The one function that TV news performs very well is that
  when there is no
  news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there 
  were. -David
  Brinkley 
  -
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
   
  I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another
  (yes i got it
  working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
  From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
  except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
  attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
  extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
  looking at the extension but also checking the file's 
 headers to make
  sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
  But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep
  compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, 
 hence give
  you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which 
  removes the
  filtered extensions from compressed files also.
   
  The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.
   
  I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k 
  server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that 
  ScanMail does have.
   
  Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about 
 em, do what 
  you want to do with the info ;)
   
  Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's 
  Belgian).
   
  Greets,
   
  Bob
   
   
  
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Moody, Jacqueline

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail





We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. 

Jackye


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor.

Jonathan


-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



Thanks!! :)


PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;)


Thanks for that Michèle!! 


Bob


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 IIRC = If I Remember Correctly.
 
 AFAIK, this is the best site for this:
 
 http://www.acronymfinder.com
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51
 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
 Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. 
 Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find 
 ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option 
 then please be so kind and enlighten me.
 
 Thank you very much in advance,
 
 Bob
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files.
  
  -Michèle
  Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
  The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
  Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
  -
  The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there 
  is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there
  were. -David
  Brinkley 
  -
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  
  
  Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
  
  I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got 
  it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k).
  From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
  except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL
  attachments without exception, or block only the files with the
  extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
  looking at the extension but also checking the file's 
 headers to make
  sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe.
  But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep 
  compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions,
 hence give
  you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which
  removes the
  filtered extensions from compressed files also.
  
  The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good.
  
  I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k
  server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that 
  ScanMail does have.
  
  Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about
 em, do what
  you want to do with the info ;)
  
  Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's
  Belgian).
  
  Greets,
  
  Bob
  
  
  
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Crouthamel, Jonathan

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

Do you
utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I
guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's
EPO?

Thanks
for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two
products.

Jonathan

-Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13,
2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Antigen vs. ScanMail
We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with
it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which
slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed
throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations,
Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange,
I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen.
Jackye
-Original Message- From:
Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been
looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal.
A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well
as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how
have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI,
getting all the needed products from one vendor.
Jonathan
-Original Message- From: Bob
t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Antigen vs. ScanMail
Thanks!! :)
PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read
newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;)
Thanks for that Michèle!!
Bob
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03
Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
IIRC = If I Remember
Correctly. AFAIK,
this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com
Neil
-Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation:
Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs.
ScanMail
First of all my appologies for not understanding
what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every
option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to
ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in
advance, Bob
-Oorspronkelijk
bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13
Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip
files.
-Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"The one function that TV news performs very well
is that when there is no news, we give it to
you with the same emphasis as if there
were." -David Brinkley
- -Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Here's my
2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.
I installed Antigen on one server
and ScanMail on another (yes i got it
working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From
what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.*
except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to
either block ALL attachments without
exception, or block only the files with the
extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just
looking at the extension but also checking the
file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how
deep compressed files should be checked for
filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen,
which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also.
The
viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use
ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k
server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that
ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to
let you all know what I think about em, do
what you want to do with the info ;)
Now i could
use a nice

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)



That is actually being worked on.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen?
Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the
size of a postage stamp?


PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail





A better management console?


When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?


John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981


With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail





Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread David N Precht


NAV CE has a better mechanism, I feel...

--- Crouthamel, Jonathan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie
 updating desktops via a
 console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a
 similar product to NAI's
 EPO?
  
 Thanks for the info...After all these threads its
 been narrowed down to two
 products.
  
 Jonathan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Moody, Jacqueline
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 
 We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems
 with it.  The desktops
 defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which
 slowed some logons down
 to a crawl.  We now have Trend deployed throughout
 the enterprise (165 site
 WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange)
 and are very, make that
 extremely happy with it.  For Exchange, I wouldn't
 look at anything other
 than Trend or Antigen.  
 
 Jackye 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM 
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
 
 
 We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I
 have been looking into
 antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up
 for renewal. A quick
 perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer
 file server as well as
 desktop protection options. Has anyone used these
 other products and how
 have you found them? That was the one and only thing
 I liked about NAI,
 getting all the needed products from one vendor.
 
 Jonathan 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM 
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
 
 
 Thanks!! :) 
 
 PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen
 part, I read newer posts and
 found the answer I was looking for ;) 
 
 Thanks for that Michèle!! 
 
 Bob 
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
  Van: Neil Hobson [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
  Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  
  
  IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. 
  
  AFAIK, this is the best site for this: 
  
  http://www.acronymfinder.com
 http://www.acronymfinder.com  
  
  Neil 
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
  Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 
  Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List 
  Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  
  
  First of all my appologies for not understanding
 what IIRC means. 
  Second, I've been through every option in Antigen
 and i canNOT find 
  ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO
 have that option 
  then please be so kind and enlighten me. 
  
  Thank you very much in advance, 
  
  Bob 
  
   -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
   Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
   Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 
   Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
   
   
   IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the
 contents of zip files. 
   
   -Michèle 
   Immigration site:  
 http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
 http://LadySun1969.tripod.com  
   The Miata:  
 http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
 http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley  
   Tiggercam:   http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
 http://www.tiggercam.co.uk  
  

-
 
   The one function that TV news performs very
 well is that when there 
   is no news, we give it to you with the same
 emphasis as if there 
   were. -David 
   Brinkley 
  

-
 
   
   
   -Original Message- 
   From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
   
   
   Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2
 applications. 

   I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail
 on another (yes i got 
   it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). 
   From what i've seen so far, neither one has the
 ability to block *.* 
   except *.zip, for example. You have the choice
 to either block ALL 
   attachments without exception, or block only the
 files with the 
   extensions you provide. A point extra goes to
 Antigen for not just 
   looking at the extension but also checking the
 file's 
  headers to make 
   sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. 
   But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option
 to set how deep 
   compressed files should be checked for filtered
 extensions, 
  hence give 
   you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike
 Antigen, which 
   removes the 
   filtered extensions from compressed

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Moody, Jacqueline

Title: Message



Yes, 
we have a centralized console. We also have all users run a check in their 
logon script.It will uninstall old anti-virus and install Trend if 
they do not have Trend Officescan yet. If they do, it willcheck 
fornewvirus patterns and update if necessary. We had a very 
old version of NAI on a lot of machines that Trend did not have an uninstall 
for, so they provided us one when we requested it. All viruses found get 
reported back to the central console. We have been able to use the logs as 
evidence to prosecute hackers on our WAN. It would have been near 
impossible to catch them without Trend. 

We 
didn't have centralized with NAI. We were working on it with them and 
wound up losing the entire project because they raised the cost 
mid-stream.

Jacqueline

  
  -Original Message-From: Crouthamel, 
  Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
  December 13, 2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
  Do 
  you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a 
  console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's 
  EPO?
  
  Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to 
  two products.
  
  Jonathan
  
-Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 
2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen vs. ScanMail
We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with 
it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which 
slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed 
throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, 
Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For 
Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. 

Jackye 
-Original Message- From: 
Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been 
looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for 
renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file 
server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other 
products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I 
liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor.
Jonathan 
-Original Message- From: Bob 
t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. 
ScanMail 
Thanks!! :) 
PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read 
newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) 
Thanks for that Michèle!! 
Bob 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-  Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail  
  IIRC = If I 
Remember Correctly.   AFAIK, this is the best site for this:   http://www.acronymfinder.com  
 Neil  
 -Original Message-  From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51  
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List  Conversation: 
Antigen vs. ScanMail  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. 
ScanMail   
 First of all my appologies for not 
understanding what IIRC means.  Second, I've 
been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find  ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that 
option  then please be so kind and enlighten 
me.   Thank you very 
much in advance,   
Bob
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-   Van: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues   Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail   IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of 
zip files.
 -Michèle   Immigration site: 
http://LadySun1969.tripod.com   The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley   Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk   
-   "The one function that TV news performs very well is that 
when there   is no news, we give it to you 
with the same emphasis as if there   were." 
-David   Brinkley   
-   -Original Message-  
 From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  
 Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail   
Here's 
my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications.  
   I installed Antigen on one 
server and ScanMail on another (yes i got   
it worki

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread COrland

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* 
CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message 
attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus 
starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to 
configure.
Some of the trial's and tribulations of the 
install:
The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one 
you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS 
on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally 
un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The 
console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that 
it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it 
does kind of work.
So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT 
machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first 
before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly 
to the machines when they come online in the am.
The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well 
and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly 
easily.
It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp 
to make a wise decision! *grin*

Two thumbs up to Trend!!

Smile Lots!
Cameron


  -Original Message-From: Crouthamel, Jonathan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 
  2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Antigen vs. ScanMail
  Do 
  you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a 
  console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's 
  EPO?
  
  Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to 
  two products.
  
  Jonathan
  
-Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 
2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Antigen vs. ScanMail
We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with 
it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which 
slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed 
throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, 
Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For 
Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. 

Jackye 
-Original Message- From: 
Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been 
looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for 
renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file 
server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other 
products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I 
liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor.
Jonathan 
-Original Message- From: Bob 
t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: 
MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. 
ScanMail 
Thanks!! :) 
PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read 
newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) 
Thanks for that Michèle!! 
Bob 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-  Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 
 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail  
  IIRC = If I 
Remember Correctly.   AFAIK, this is the best site for this:   http://www.acronymfinder.com  
 Neil  
 -Original Message-  From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51  
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List  Conversation: 
Antigen vs. ScanMail  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. 
ScanMail   
 First of all my appologies for not 
understanding what IIRC means.  Second, I've 
been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find  ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that 
option  then please be so kind and enlighten 
me.   Thank you very 
much in advance,   
Bob
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-   Van: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues   Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail   IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of 
zip files.
 -Michèle   Immigration site: 
http://LadySun1969.tripod.com   The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley   Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk   
-   "The one function that TV news per

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Blake R. Fowkes

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail





Just hope like HE** that you never have to try and call Symantec for support. I do not think that there support department really exists.

Thanks,
Blake Fowkes
Waid and Associates
Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
- Muriel Strode



-Original Message-
From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail



NAV CE has a better mechanism, I feel...


--- Crouthamel, Jonathan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie
 updating desktops via a
 console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a
 similar product to NAI's
 EPO?
 
 Thanks for the info...After all these threads its
 been narrowed down to two
 products.
 
 Jonathan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Moody, Jacqueline
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
 
 
 
 We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems
 with it. The desktops
 defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which
 slowed some logons down
 to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout
 the enterprise (165 site
 WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange)
 and are very, make that
 extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't
 look at anything other
 than Trend or Antigen. 
 
 Jackye 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM 
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
 
 
 We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I
 have been looking into
 antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up
 for renewal. A quick
 perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer
 file server as well as
 desktop protection options. Has anyone used these
 other products and how
 have you found them? That was the one and only thing
 I liked about NAI,
 getting all the needed products from one vendor.
 
 Jonathan 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM 
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
 Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
 
 
 Thanks!! :) 
 
 PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen
 part, I read newer posts and
 found the answer I was looking for ;) 
 
 Thanks for that Michèle!! 
 
 Bob 
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
  Van: Neil Hobson [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
  Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 
  Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  
  
  IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. 
  
  AFAIK, this is the best site for this: 
  
  http://www.acronymfinder.com
 http://www.acronymfinder.com 
  
  Neil 
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
  Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 
  Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List 
  Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
  
  
  First of all my appologies for not understanding
 what IIRC means. 
  Second, I've been through every option in Antigen
 and i canNOT find 
  ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO
 have that option 
  then please be so kind and enlighten me. 
  
  Thank you very much in advance, 
  
  Bob 
  
   -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
   Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
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   Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 
   Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
   
   
   IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the
 contents of zip files. 
   
   -Michèle 
   Immigration site: 
 http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
 http://LadySun1969.tripod.com  
   The Miata: 
 http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
 http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley  
   Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
 http://www.tiggercam.co.uk  
  

-
 
   The one function that TV news performs very
 well is that when there 
   is no news, we give it to you with the same
 emphasis as if there 
   were. -David 
   Brinkley 
  

-
 
   
   
   -Original Message- 
   From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail 
   
   
   Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2
 applications. 
   
   I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail
 on another (yes i got 
   it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). 
   From what i've seen so far, neither one has the
 ability to block *.* 
   except *.zip, for example. You have the choice
 to either block ALL 
   attachments without

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

2001-12-13 Thread Brent Hudson

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

Just
my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re
the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is
the 1000 messages you get "er.. is this attachment ok to
open"

later
Brent

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 13 December 2001
09:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen
vs. ScanMail
We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from
*cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the
message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner
virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to
configure.
Some of the trial's and tribulations of the
install:
The tvcs console wants a default password...not the
one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation,
but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after
totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a
mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of
functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product
consoles), but...it does kind of work.
So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT
machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first
before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty
quickly to the machines when they come online in the am.
The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as
well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly
easily.
It took us a while, but we finally managed to get
corp to make a wise decision! *grin*

Two thumbs up to Trend!!

Smile Lots!
Cameron

-Original Message-From: Crouthamel, Jonathan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13,
2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Antigen vs. ScanMail
Do
you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a
console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's
EPO?

Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down
to two products.

Jonathan

RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)

2001-12-13 Thread Micciche, Robert

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)





I should hope so, it's pretty damn ridiculous.


BUT: I am glad Sybari spent their programming efforts on stopping viruses and not on graphic displays. :-)


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Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)




That is actually being worked on.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen?
Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the
size of a postage stamp?



PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product.



-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail






A better management console?



When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?



John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981



With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



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Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail






Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well.
And what's Trend have that we don't?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)

2001-12-13 Thread Lefkovics, William

I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and
not the product.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)

That is actually being worked on.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor

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Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen?
Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the
size of a postage stamp?

PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail

A better management console?

When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

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RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)

2001-12-13 Thread Micciche, Robert

Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)





LOL


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)



I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and
not the product.



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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)




That is actually being worked on.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen?
Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the
size of a postage stamp?



PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product.



-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail






A better management console?



When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make
GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers?



John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981



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