Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??

2003-06-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:57, eric huff wrote:
 Is this still true (the article is a few years old)?
 It says you can't update a kernel with software manager.  I did last week 
 (since i didn;t know any better), and it worked fine.
 
 I can't actually check what they said about lilo because
 i have since reinstalled.  (no, not cuz of the kernel :)
 
 eric

Eric,
  Now that Urpmi is IMHO perfected not so true.  The installer is now
intelligent enough to know to install kernels. But it must be done
seperate from all other updates.  The reason is strictly due to a
requirement put in by MDK so that there is minimal chance of oops.  I
actually do kernel upgrades this way.

urpmi --update kernel (the update switch can be skipped but it makes
sure I get the MDK kernel not one from club etc.)  So far on about 6
boxes (9.0 and 9.1) with 5 of them done remotely not one has burped on
me.  

James

 
 On Tuesday 17 June 2003 06:05 pm, Craig wrote:
  Have a look here,
 
  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php
 
  This will outline how to update your kernel, it is not difficult.
 
  On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:49, Rodrigo wrote:
   Hi All ...
  I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the
  rpm -Fvh kernel    etc doesn't work ...
  
  Does exist a special way to update the kernel  ?
  
  
   rodrigo
   dgfuch
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 11:52 pm, Vox wrote:
   Actually, that's only part of the whole thing :) A martian packet
 is one that comes from a network that shouldn't be sending packets
 to that interface. If you get a packet from 192.168.1.54 on your
 public (ie. internet) interface, it'll get marked as martian
 because a packet from a private interface shouldn't come to the
 public interface. Same happens with improper headers without
 identifying source...they get marked as martians because the
 interface can't confirm it comes from a valid source.

Thanks, Vox.  It all helps the understanding g

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Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??

2003-06-18 Thread Robert Crawford
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 01:39, Larry Sword wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:

 Here's a concise sure-fire manual way to upgrade the Mandrake kernels with
  the new rpm versions Mandrake issues. Upgrading with vanilla kernel.org
  sources with any extra patches differs, and is a little more complicated,
  but for Mandrake rpms, the steps below are all that's needed.
 
 1. Download the new kernel and kernel source rpms to their own directory
  you create in /home (two rpms).
 
 2.Open a console, su to root, and cd to that directory.
 
 3. Type:
 
 rpm -ivh *.rpm
 
 4. After they install, check the following locations:
 
 1. /etc/lilo.conf. You should now see the new stanza for the new kernel at
  the bottom.
 
 2. /boot.   You should now see items for the new kernel there.
 
 3. /usr/src. There should be a new directory there for the new kernel.
 
 4. /lib/modules. There should be a new kernel modules directory there.
 
 If all that checks out, you have done it, and can reboot, and choose the
  new kernel in the lilo boot screen. The old kernel will still be listed,
  and available.
 
 That's all there is to it with the Mandrake rpm kernel updates, as all
  copying and editing is done automatically.
 
 Robert Crawford

 Yep this is the way it's done.. but it sure is questionable why
 in the Mandrake notice on the kernel, *MandrakeSoft Security Advisory
 MDKSA-2003:066 : kernel
 the have the following:

 To upgrade automatically, use *MandrakeUpdate*.

 If you want to upgrade manually, download the updated package(s) from
 one of our FTP server mirrors http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php
 and upgrade with rpm -Fvh *.rpm.

 :-P

 Larry

I saw that too- surely they don't really mean -Fvh. I must be a typo and/or an 
oversight. I know I'm really careful, but still have a lot of typos that I 
miss, so I can't really fault anyone else. Still, on something as important 
as a kernel upgrade procedure for newbies, it's imperative to give correct 
instructions.

 I know I was confused at first by a lot of the outdated and contradictory 
kernel how-tos posted on the internet, but once I did it myself a few times 
and messed up, and discovered where the newbie pitfalls were, it became 
simple. Now that I understand what the goals are, and why, I'm fearlessly 
recompiling and patching experimental kernels like an expert, even on my main 
non-testing box.

Robert



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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 2:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

  I had an experience with martians recently. I was getting
  connection attempts from 192.168.100.1. I initially told my
  firewall to block all invalid addresses, but a day later I
  discovered that it was my cable modem (Motorola Surfboard
  SB3100). The device had a full Web configuration interface and
  its own DHCP server, and I only discovered this three years after
  buying it!
 
  I'm not slow, I'm just fashionably late! :)

Reason number 512 on we at least looking at the instructions
 might be worthwhile *large evil grin*

 James

Oops - another example of seeing the reply to a message that never 
came through - I never got Sridhar's.  Are we all having this 
problem?

Anne

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Re: SUMMARY:: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic

2003-06-18 Thread Vahur Lokk
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 19:06, Tru64 User wrote:
 OK, well said ppl. We (mandrake experts) don't want
 changes!. Got it.
Changes make sense sometimes and sometimes they do not. Your 
UNIX list is mostly expert list, I guess. They are guys who 
know netiquette, are used to maillists and are disciplined 
enough to follow the routines you described. So it works there.

Mandrake lists, whether newbie or expert, are kind of a mixed 
bag if you look at the users. Also ppl come and go (especially 
come) more often than in your pro Unix list. Implementing those 
routines would not actually work here, I am afraid, and an 
attempt to do that could simply break the existing messy, 
funny, offtopicky but actually well-working community. Or it 
may turn into kind of a Please no off-topic/cut the quotes/no 
HTML-nagging that I have been participating as well and which 
actually only increases the amount of OT postings without any 
other significant effect.

 How about encouraging people to post final summaries
 then? At least we will know what solved their
 problems. In many cases,  i read arguments but at
 the end never knows what resolved the issue.
This is an excellent idea, and I will try to remember and do 
this. Although, as you see, in more philosophical cases even 
summaries could cause further discussion :-)

Wahur


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Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??

2003-06-18 Thread Thomas Backlund
Citerar Larry Sword [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 Yep this is the way it's done.. but it sure is questionable why
 
 in the Mandrake notice on the kernel, *MandrakeSoft Security Advisory 
 MDKSA-2003:066 : kernel
 the have the following:
 *
 
 
 To upgrade automatically, use *MandrakeUpdate*.
 


Since rpmdrake/urpmi knows that kernels have to be installed,
not upgraded, it works as it should...


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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread eric huff
Ok, now i know i am not going crazier.  I have seen this, too, Anne. 
I was about to look into wether it was my isp.  

Whenever this has happened, sure enough it's in the archive, and 
obviously some people got it, but i didn't.

I'm glad you mentioned it.  How would we go about trying to get the 
list server fixxed, in the case of a drastic problem?

eric

 Oops - another example of seeing the reply to a message that
 never came through - I never got Sridhar's.  Are we all having
 this problem?

 Anne


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Re: [expert] Web site guru needed - CLOSURE

2003-06-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 2:58 am, Felix Miata wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 06 Jun 2003 1:43 pm, Felix Miata wrote:
   Discuss the problem with the Mozilla developers on
   irc://irc.mozilla.org/mozilla. There may need to be a bug
   filed.
 
  Sorry - I said I was not very savvy on irc.  I tried it, but got
  c [19:48:07]  Connecting to mozilla.org, port 6667...
  [19:48:07] * E * Can't connect to host: Connection refused
 
  so I obviously did something wrong.  Can you give me push in the
  right direction?

 In the Mozilla window menu is Chatzilla (unless you have a very old
 version). Open that. Before you do, it's a good idea go into prefs
 and change the nick to something other than IRCMonkey. Once it
 starts, there will be a catalog of channels in the first or second
 tab. Click on the #chatzilla link for help with Chatzilla; click on
 the #mozillazine link for help with user issues; click on the
 #mozilla link for help with problems you believe are the result of
 a Mozilla bug. There is a CZ FAQ at
 http://www.moztips.com/index.php?id=7

I did chat to the developers - quite a long chat, actually.  It seems 
that there is one routine(?) that happens in two pages, that looks 
for an 'event' which it doesn't find.  The cause of the problem was 
unclear, except that they felt it was looking for something 
windows-centric.  As agreed with them, I emailed the bank's 
webmaster, explaining the problem.  The reply started with the 
disclaimer that they do not support mozilla, but did go on to say 
that my comments had been passed to the programmers, for 
consideration in future updates to the site.

Anne



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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:55:41 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Oops - another example of seeing the reply to a message that never 
 came through - I never got Sridhar's.  Are we all having this 
 problem?
 
 Anne

Hmmm...  too bad we don't have access to the list servers...  missing
posts and duplicated posts -- gotta wonder if one of the servers has a
glitch where it forwards the wrong msg at times...


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[expert] SASL and Postfix

2003-06-18 Thread Randy Jonasz
Hey everyone,

I'm trying to set up postfix to authenticate smtp clients before
relaying mail.  I've added 

#SASL server directives
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks
permit_sasl_authenticated check_relay_domains
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes

to postfix's main.cf and I've added 

pwcheck_method:sasldb

to /usr/lib/sasl/smtpd.conf

Using saslpasswd I've added a user and a password.  I've changed the
permissions of sasldb to 644 in /etc.  The problem I'm having is that no
one can authenticate when relaying mail through postfix.  Postfix keeps
responding Authentication failed.  

Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks for your help,

Randy


PS. popping mail is working fine.



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[expert] messed up ide-scsi config

2003-06-18 Thread elPunishar
hello,

some of you may remember, a short time ago i had this problem while replacing 
an existing cdrom (with scsi emulation) with a new ide harddisk.

well, in the process of trying to fix the problem someone suggested i remove 
scsi_hostadapter and ide-scsi from my /etc/modules.conf, and 
hdc=ide-scsi from lilo.conf.

that didn't help back then but ever since i cannot use my cdroms like before.. 
(the additional harddisk is gone now)

i can't use them to burn cds or dvds anymore and i cant install any new 
software from the mandrake cds..

i can mount them manually tough:

mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom
mount /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom

both work fine for just normally accessing data on the discs, but not for 
burning or installing.

what am i to do ? or respectively, what exactly did i mess up ?

tnx for any help!

greetings, 
le stu


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Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?

2003-06-18 Thread Nisco
Il mar, 2003-06-17 alle 16:46, Ronald J. Hall ha scritto:
 On Tuesday 17 June 2003 08:42 am, Nisco wrote:
 
  Reboot(to append the right acpi=on string on the kernel)
 
 If thats /etc/lilo.conf that he's appending that to, then he'll need to run 
 (as root):
 
 /sbin/lilo
 
 or the changes won't be recognized, no matter how many times you reboot.
 
 :-)

sorrry :))

tooo right!

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[expert] setting up a apcupsd slave

2003-06-18 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva

Hi List!

MDK 9.1 and apcups 3.10.5.  After a while I got my master apcupsd working.
Had to set: NISIP 127.0.0.1 in apcupsd.conf file.

Trying something similar to a slave box, via ethernet, I got:

FATAL ERROR in apcaccess.c at line 278
tcp_open: cannot connect to server localhost on port 3551.
ERR=Connection refused

My slave apcupsd.conf file is:

## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##
UPSCABLE ether
UPSTYPE backups
LOCKFILE /var/lock
BATTERYLEVEL 10
MINUTES 3
TIMEOUT 60
ANNOY 30
ANNOYDELAY 30
NOLOGON disable
NETSERVER on
NISIP 127.0.0.1
NISPORT 3551
EVENTSFILE /var/log/apcupsd.events
STATTIME 0
STATFILE /var/log/apcupsd.status
LOGSTATS off
DATATIME 0
UPSCLASS netslave
UPSMODE net
NETACCESS true
NETTIME 10
NETPORT 
MASTER 192.168.0.10
USERMAGIC abcdefghijklmnop1

Did someone got a slave box configured and working?
BTW, under MDK 8.0, I never had problem.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA,
Cheers,

---
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Re: [expert] script help

2003-06-18 Thread michael
Hey thanks Mark!  Sorry to take so long responding; I forgot to renew my
domain name and wasn't getting any mail - please don't ask :}
thanks again!  mike

 Michael Holt wrote:
 Hey,
 I'm looking for some help on my little backup script for my server.  I'm
 not a real savvy scripter so please bare with me :)
 I googled around awhile back and put together a bu script that has
 served
 my purpose well until now.  It's just a few lines as you will see and I
 use it with cron to make a cdrw every morning at 3am.

 Now the info on my server is starting to outgrow just on cdrw (jpgs and
 such) so I would like to know how I can modify my script to be able to
 exclude either certain files or directories.  I imagine that sed would
 be
 involved, but I don't completely understand that tool so I'm hoping that
 someone might be able to give me some pointers and maybe even explain
 how
 the code will work in that setting.  Well, here's what I've got now:

 Michael,

 attached you'll find the one i've been using and it works flawlessly. I
 can't remember his name, but it was a gentleman here on the expert list
 that sent me a copy of his and I used his as a guide to cook this one up.

 enjoy...

 --
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 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2  9.1
 ICQ# 27816299
 #!/bin/sh
 #MAILTO:mdw1982
 # ##
 # variables for the program:
 # ##
 TAPE=/dev/st0;
 HOME_FILES=/home;
 DOCUMENTS=/mnt/arc_2/Documents;
 WWW=/var/www;
 MAIL=/var/spool/mail;
 DATABASE=/var/lib/mysql;
 MP3=/mnt/mp3;
 LOG_PATH=/home/mdw1982/;
 LOG_DIR=backup_log;
 DATE=$( date +%m-%d-%Y );

 # ##
 # functions for program:
 # ##
 message(){
   echo .This is the Tape backup program..;
   echo  ---  ;
   echo ;
   echo I've successfully completed the nightly backup of the system;
   echo for $DATE;
   echo ;
   echo The Log file containing the backup's contents has been written;
   echo to $LOG_PATH.;
   echo . END OF TRANSMISSION ;
 }

 # does the directory to receive the backup logs exist?
 # if not then we're going to create it...
 checkLog(){
   for i in $( ls -d /home/mdw1982/* ); do
   ITEM=$i
   if [ $ITEM = $LOG_DIR ]
   then
   FOUND=true
   else
   FOUND=false
   fi
   done
 }

 # ##
 # main program   :
 # ##

 # putting all the goodies to the tape
 find /bin /boot /etc /home /root /var /mnt/arc_2/Documents /var/www -print
 | grep -iv \./var/ftp | sort | cpio -oaBc -O /dev/tape

 # writing out the logfile to disk
 cpio -iBct -I /dev/tape  /home/mdw1982/backup_log/$( date +%m-%d-%Y
 )_bkup.indx


 # compressing the logfile
 gzip -1 /home/mdw1982/backup_log/$( date +%m-%d-%Y )_bkup.indx

 # outputing message to email
 message;

 # exiting the program
 exit;

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Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic

2003-06-18 Thread charlie
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:39 am, Wolfgang Bornath had this to contribute :-
  
 My $200,000.00

 Life must be hard for people who regard their opinion not worthier than
 $0.02.

 wobo

Intriguing thought.

Charlie

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solve.

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Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??

2003-06-18 Thread Craig
The way, as shown on the site, still works ... I did the latest kernel update 
in this manner the other day.

It is the way I was initially shown and have stuck by this method since, I 
have had no problems with kernel updates as a result of doing it this way.


On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:57, eric huff wrote:
 Is this still true (the article is a few years old)?
 It says you can't update a kernel with software manager.  I did last week
 (since i didn;t know any better), and it worked fine.

 I can't actually check what they said about lilo because
 i have since reinstalled.  (no, not cuz of the kernel :)

 eric

 On Tuesday 17 June 2003 06:05 pm, Craig wrote:
  Have a look here,
 
  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php
 
  This will outline how to update your kernel, it is not difficult.
 
  On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:49, Rodrigo wrote:
   Hi All ...
  I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the
  rpm -Fvh kernel    etc doesn't work ...
  
  Does exist a special way to update the kernel  ?
  
  
   rodrigo
   dgfuch

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Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?

2003-06-18 Thread Nisco
Il mar, 2003-06-17 alle 18:25, Matt Osborne ha scritto:
 Thanks, I'm getting a little closer to fixing this. Made sure acpi=yes in
 lilo then ran /sbin/lilo as root, installed the packages and then
 rebooted. acpi was working somewhat, it could tell when I had the AC
 plugged in and when it was on battery,  but it could not read the battery
 charge level and when I ran the following it did not seem to detect the
 battery
 
 ]# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
 present: no

Try 

]# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state

Bye

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Re: [expert] NO MAIL TODAY?

2003-06-18 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 11:20 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Has there been little/no  mail on this list today?
 If there has been any volume of mail today, would
 someone please let me know directly?

 TIA

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob:
Same thing here, although it looks like some folks did get mail. It got fixed 
here (EDT) about midnight.

Anyone know the French for stuff happens?
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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
The list server has exhibited all sorts of sporadic problems for as long as I've
been a member (since early 2000). Are they still using Sympa? Mailman seems to
be norm for most newer lists.


On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:14:58 -0700, eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, now i know i am not going crazier.  I have seen this, too, Anne. 
 I was about to look into wether it was my isp.  
 
 Whenever this has happened, sure enough it's in the archive, and 
 obviously some people got it, but i didn't.
 
 I'm glad you mentioned it.  How would we go about trying to get the 
 list server fixxed, in the case of a drastic problem?
 
 eric
 
  Oops - another example of seeing the reply to a message that
  never came through - I never got Sridhar's.  Are we all having
  this problem?
 
  Anne



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Re: [expert] I Found my Martians

2003-06-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 07:17, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:55:41 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Oops - another example of seeing the reply to a message that never 
  came through - I never got Sridhar's.  Are we all having this 
  problem?
  
  Anne
 
 Hmmm...  too bad we don't have access to the list servers...  missing
 posts and duplicated posts -- gotta wonder if one of the servers has a
 glitch where it forwards the wrong msg at times...
 


The servers went down sometime around 3:18AM 06/18 and didn't get back
up until about 45 minutes ago.

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Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic

2003-06-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 02:16, charlie wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:39 am, Wolfgang Bornath had this to contribute :-
   
  My $200,000.00
 
  Life must be hard for people who regard their opinion not worthier than
  $0.02.
 
  wobo
 
 Intriguing thought.
 
 Charlie


Either that or they value it in 1900 US dollars (.02 would have gotten
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Re: [expert] SASL and Postfix

2003-06-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
** Randy Jonasz (Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 17:23)
 Using saslpasswd I've added a user and a password.  I've changed the
 permissions of sasldb to 644 in /etc.  The problem I'm having is that
 no one can authenticate when relaying mail through postfix.  Postfix
 keeps responding Authentication failed.

 Is there something I'm missing?

Just to make sure, you have installed the proper plugin?

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Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Watts
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 it works for me(tm) without any problem, that very same kernel:

 Linux deus.mitica 2.4.21-0.18mdksmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 3 20:25:42 CEST 2003
 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux quintela$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0   CPU1
   0:17962871925337IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:  2  0IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   4:195240IO-APIC-edge  serial
   8:  1  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
   9:  0  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
  14:   7472   8162IO-APIC-edge  ide0
  15: 17 11IO-APIC-edge  ide1
  16:  34576  34687   IO-APIC-level  eth0
  17:  0  0   IO-APIC-level  AMD 768
 NMI:  0  0
 LOC:37215143721509
 ERR:  0
 MIS:  0
 quintela$


 Installing enterprise, but shouldn't bmake a difference.

What processors are you using?

Mark.


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