[expert] XFce4 and menus
anyone else using the XFce4 beta? Very nice, still finding my way around it though. Biggest hassle at this point is lack of menu integration. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Lost the thread but.....
Someone has recently asked about bittorrent Here is not only a pretty good bit of info but links to more real info. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4760 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
James, I am using reiserfs on all partitions, but it doesn't seem to affect anything negatively so far. Where did you get that info- I don't recall ever reading anything like that before? If I'm doing something incorrectly, I'd sure like to correct it! Janet- I have ATI Radeon cards in my boxes, so I'm not really up on the ins and outs of Nvidia linux drivers, but I'm sure someone here can help you. I think nvidia linux support is geting pretty decent now, and it shouldn't be too hard getting things sorted out. I've read that when installing nvidia drivers, it has to be compiled into the kernel. Rober C. On Tuesday 01 July 2003 18:21, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 21:14, Robert Crawford wrote: Janet, Frankly, I'm no expert, and don't really know exactly what the relevance of kernel.h is, except that it's generated at boot time. I seem to have multiple versions, but they are all exactly the same content. Very curious. I'm sure many people on this list know far more than I do on the subject. I believe and initrd.img isn't required unless you have scsi drives. I know I've left it out when compiling lots of 2.4.xx kernels, and they all work fine, so I guess that's likely true, as I don't have any scsi drives. Or if you are using a journaled file system like reiserfs. Keep us posted on your 2.5.xx experience. I've build 2.5.67 through 2.5.72 with varying degrees of success. I just tried 2.5.73 today with the bk6 patch, and it went well, but then it doesn't boot- just a black screen. 2.5's are really not ready for much except testing purposes, at least for me. I've really tried to get them to work for months, and have gotten it down to either they work fine with no serial drives enabled (thus no internet/modem), or serial drivers enabled, and lots of serious file manager problems (freezes and long delays). For me, it's been a show stopper so far, and seemingly unsolvable. Robert C. On Tuesday 01 July 2003 21:10, kiosk wrote: Thank you so much, Robert, for an elegant description of a process which has been to some extent mysterious for me for some time, despite my experience in compiling kernels for various Slackware installations. I intend to experiment with a 2.5.xx kernel in the hope that my E7205 chipset will be supported so that I can load the AGPGART module for my NVIDIA card. However, I wonder if you would be so kind as to explain the presence of the kernel.h file in /boot, and it's relevance to the boot process. I don't think I need, and, ideally, would dispense with kernel.h and initrd.img. I'm not sure that I need to patch a kernel at all, but if I can patch a stable kernel, and, as a result, load AGPGART, then perhaps that would be the way to go? Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:39:17 -0400 Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup. However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could try is copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to it's own directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing it as root in /usr/src, especially for people like me still learning).Then make a backup of your .config file, and cd in a console (as user) to the new directory in /home where you copied the MDK kernel sources to, and run mrproper. Then, try applying the Hz patch. If it applies OK, do a make xconfig and load the copy of your stock .config file into xconfig., Then change the value of the Hz line to =1000Hz, and save and exit. VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the file to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied, otherwise if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version) is the same, it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not create a new -ck2 version. In your case, that would be a disaster. Then you can (as user) do: make dep make clean make bzImage make modules If you get through these with no error outs, you are probably OK, and will then know the patch probably didn't cause any problem. Up to this point, nothing you have done could possibly affect your current kernel setup. If you want to actually install, su to root and do: make modules_install This will put a new modules directory in /lib/modules with the new -ck2 version name, leaving the original untouched. I never do the usual final make install to call the kernel script after that if I'm not compiling in /usr/src. I did that once, and had huge problems. I
Re: [expert] Parent vs Child
On 01 Jul 2003 15:51:18 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 14:57, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 14:45:24 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:37, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 12:52:33 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works as expected.. the parent automatically dies and the child continues it's run... Problem is when I put a similar case into an RPM and it runs it. It hangs. RPM will not continue until child runs it's course. And all the time that rpm #1 is open I can't start installing rpm #2 (the rpm database does not multi-task.) g. Although rpm uses bash shell scripts it sure doesn't use them correctly. Sorry, I don't follow all the threads... From what you say here, I think what you are up against is DB locking... and that won't be solved with multiple threads unless the DB allows it, which I doubt. Kinda sounds like the rpm DB is Linux' registry in this respect... correct and if I can figure out how to make rpm start the auto install script ... then release it to continue on it's merry way I can cut installation time for my company by 40% Or at least the time required to find out if all rpms install correctly. (the rpm in question takes about 80% of the total install time just waiting for the script is spawns to run.) Not to disimilar to the situation where you install a new kernel. It runs a number of commands (such as install_kernel) that if there was a way to run them ... then let the rpm command finish while they continue on their own. The system would be able to begin installing the next rpm while the install_kernel command etc finished on it's own. You know the old theory ... you can do anything with software... we'll, I'm trying to prove just that. *grin* So you're gonna rip rpm apart and have it use separate DBs aligned with the package categories already defined by Mdk... Cool! :^) :^) Not quite I'm trying to find a way to make rpm -Uvh spawn off processes that allow the first rpm -Uvh to end, freeing up the rpmdb to accept a new rpm -Uvh. kinda like _ installation script for rpm1 running. / / rpm -Uvh rpm1.rpm (rpm complets) _ installation script rpm2 \ / \ / - rpm -Uvh rpm2.rpm (rpm completes) \ \ - rpm -Uvh rpm3.rpm instead of the more linear process it is now. I don't want to get into rpm itself... but rather figure out how to spawn independent processes rather than dependent ones. Right now if in the rpm I put %postin nohup /usr/local/bin/autoinstallscript1 RPM itself will wait no matter what for that command string to finish. I don't want it to wait. I want it to do anything else it has to do, finish and not care what happens to the above command string. I can do this from a command line ... but for reasons beyond my ken when bash commands are used in rpm they act differently. On your point.. yes ... I agree that rpm could more affectively handle the database. There is no reason why it should lock the db after it figures out if all dependencies are met unless it's actively writing to the db. Data can be gathered and written asynchronously as easily as it could be done synchronously so why not... but that's another battle for another day. James Wouldn't you run into trouble with databases. There is a built in interlock which only allows one instance to have rw access to a record at a time. Others may have read but not read-write access. I'll explain it further with a joint bank account. Balance = $155.00 Scenario 1 12:55.02 - He accesses the account with his Eftpos card to pay for a bussiness lunch of $130.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares the transaction. 12:55.04 - She is at the 'ladies club' and also tries to pay for lunch at $125.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares teh transaction. 12:55.06 - His transaction completes and the balance is ammended. Now there is $25.00 in the account. 12:55.08 - Her transaction completes and the balance is ammended. $155.00 - $125.00 = $25.00 gets written back to the account as the balance overwriting the previous transaction and the bank is out of pocket. He gets a free lunch. Scenario 2 12:55.02 - He accesses the account with his Eftpos card to pay for a bussiness lunch - a lock is placed until transaction completes. 12:55.04 - She is at the 'ladies club' and also tries to pay for lunch. Read access only so the Eftpos says, try again. 12:55.06 - His transaction completes and the
Re: [expert] How to force use of HTTPS for a part of the web site?
Juan Luis, should the /path/to/your/ssl/dir be also declared as an alias (I mean, /mail /path/to/your/ssl/dir) ? Also, it is not the optimal solution. This solution would prevent me from using HTTPS for some actions on my standard web site (since I will be directed to the Suirrelmail subsystem). I think this alternative could work well if the yourhostname.com is different than the name that is given to my site. Am I wrong ? Thanks so far /Stefano Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: You could create a VirtualHost entry in your httpd.conf, something like this: VirtualHost yourhostname.com:443 DocumentRoot /path/to/your/ssl/dir . /VirtualHost So if you enter to https://yourhostname.com you will go directly to your mail dir. Hope it helps. cheers, Juan Luis On Tuesday 01 July 2003 04:50 pm, Stefano Pogliani IMAP wrote: I wish to make my mails available via Squirrelmail. I think it will be correct to use HTTPS when using my mail over the internet. So, I wish to make the /myMail alias of my Apache 2 installation ONLY AVAILABLE via HTTPS. Could someone pls help me? Thanks in advance. Best regards /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] [OT] Mandrake Chapter 11
Hi ! I guess this is interesting for a lot here :) http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2425lg=en Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to force use of HTTPS for a part of the web site?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Stefano Pogliani IMAP wrote: I wish to make my mails available via Squirrelmail. I think it will be correct to use HTTPS when using my mail over the internet. Agreed, this is a Good Thing To Do. :) So, I wish to make the /myMail alias of my Apache 2 installation ONLY AVAILABLE via HTTPS. SquirrelMail can force this all by itself. Run the config script, called /var/www/squirrelmail/config/conf.pl, and choose option 8, Plugins. Look for the secure_login plugin, under Available plugins. Enter the number beside this entry at the prompt; you'll see it jump up into the Imstalled Plugins list (and have a new number). Enter S, to save the new configuration. Now, whenever you attempt to connect to it with plain HTTP, it will force a redirect to the HTTPS equivalent of the same address. Very handy. ;) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 The engineer is neither optimist nor pessimist. He sees the proverbial half-full/empty glass and says, The glass is twice as big as there is any need for it to be. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mailman
Hi guys, This is just an FYI message.. I wanted to setup mailman on my mdk9.0 server.. but did not want to use the old version that comes with 9.0. So I grabbed the cooker src rpm (2.1.2 think) and rebuilt it.. all went well and its all working. Much nicer then the old 2.0.x version that 9.0 came with. Just thought I'd mention it here in case anyone else was considering it. Mailman is s much better then Sympa.. I wonder why mandrake don't swap to it. (maybe its not as good at massive lists? or too slow? ) regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] irc client with DCC support
Hi i an looking for some irc client with DCC suport, to download data trought DCC (and /ctcp) .. under win i am using mIRC. David Hlácik e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://boss.pod.cvut.cz FTP: ftp://pod:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 139 707 808 mobil: +420 776 028 545 / +421 908 479 728 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed compilation of kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm
Thanks for the tips guys, especially Steffen Barszus who solved my problem. For your information the problem was solved with the installation of two missing libs NOT asked for at installation, kdelibs-devel-3.1 libgdbm2-devel-1.8 I am trying to report this problem to Mandrake with little success. It appears the cooker, and bugzilla mailing lists are for cooker installs only, not current releases and I can't find any other ways of reporting problems. Any info would be appreciated. This is the first problem I've had recompiling src.rpms after reading the guide at http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/mandrake_a_la_gentoo.pdf and I didn't need to comment out the spec file either. Will check out the opt flags, been using the default ones as they should also work by default, being too ambitious often leads to problems, and this way you get the majority of a large potential increase in speed without as much hassle. Thanks for pointing out the tbird flag, I had been wondering what was right for my duron. Cheers Huw Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
Hi Folks, just a request. While I have a Server with loads of mails using the default Mandrake Imap-Server (uw-imap), I was wondering what would be the easyest way of migrating the Mails to the new Server - Cyrus Imap. Anyone got a Hint on where to look for ? Thx Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 11:52 schrieb Joerg Mertin: Hi Folks, just a request. While I have a Server with loads of mails using the default Mandrake Imap-Server (uw-imap), I was wondering what would be the easyest way of migrating the Mails to the new Server - Cyrus Imap. Anyone got a Hint on where to look for ? I think there is no easy sollution. Try to run both servers parallel and you can copy every mail from one server to the other. Thx Cheers Joerg Martin -- H E L I X Gesellschaft für Software Engineering mbH Hanauer Landstrasse 52 Telefon (069) 4789 35-30 D-60314 Frankfurt am Main Telefax (069) 4789 35-44 http://www.helix-gmbh.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[expert] What is sshd-restarter?
I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] irc client with DCC support
Hallo Hi i an looking for some irc client with DCC suport, to download data trought DCC (and /ctcp) .. under win i am using mIRC. I believe you could also use mIRC under Linux but I prefer xchat...allready included in Mandrake CDs as I remember...or download it on www.xchat.org (?). byebye Friedrich Preuß Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? -- If you combine the name with the interval it runs at, it should not be to hard to guess ... ;-) But anyways... It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. Regards thomas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Changes to the ps command
Guillaume Marcais wrote: Isn't it a move to behave accordingly to some POSIX standard? Which is probably out of the scope of Mandrake... Just a guess, Guillaume. I think that you may be right, however I am wondering what election process Mandrake used for their membership. As a Silver level Mandrake Club Member, I for one did not vote on this change. For anyone that writes scripts, this functionality destroys anyone's credibility as all of the ps processing commands now depict the following message: ps -ax | more Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ?S 0:06 init [5] I am left to ponder the rational that went into the Developer's Minds as they dug themselves from Chapter 11? I for one have ben supporting the Open Source Development community for a considerable amount of time. This is a Radical change, and forces all of the Open Source Community to revamp all of their developments, to conform to the Mandrake way. I do not know what they were thinking, this is why I'm asking the proverbial question. Personally ... I think it was an application of the If it ain't broke, fix it. school of thought. James I am beginning to believe this more and more and more . -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
Hi Martin, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: [...] I think there is no easy sollution. Try to run both servers parallel and you can copy every mail from one server to the other. Yeah - tried that already. I have about 35 Folders and I didn't find a Client that copies folders correctly under Linux :( from one Account to the other one. Right now - I have to create manually the accounts on the Targate (cyrus) server, and then copy the content over ... :( Anyone else got an Idea ? Something like: cp -aRv source target for Imap would be great ... ;) Thx Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Martin, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: [...] I think there is no easy sollution. Try to run both servers parallel and you can copy every mail from one server to the other. Yeah - tried that already. I have about 35 Folders and I didn't find a Client that copies folders correctly under Linux :( from one Account to the other one. Right now - I have to create manually the accounts on the Targate (cyrus) server, and then copy the content over ... :( Anyone else got an Idea ? Something like: cp -aRv source target for Imap would be great ... ;) using Google I found this: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/chapter/ch09.html Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mounting a samba dir writable by an ordinary user with a space in his name ...
Try, username=MYDOMAIN\\Edoardo Comar David, thanx for your help but the problem may not have been in the space I did some investigations and even for users with a space in their windows username the credentials file works ok, with no quotes ! eg the follwoing is ok: username = test user domain = MYDOMAIN password = mypassword Edo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Lost other OS when installing Mandrake
As root, edit /etc/lilo.conf and add your other OS's information there. My (seldom used) Windows partition information in my lilo.conf is the following: other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda After you finish editing the file, run the following from the command line: lilo -v Hope for the best and reboot. That should get you going... David -Original Message- From: Trey Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Lost other OS when installing Mandrake When I installed Mandrake on my hard drive, I resized my other Linux partition to make room and installed in the available free space. However, as the install was apparently done in 'novice' mode, I did not have the opportunity to set the other partition as bootable in LILO. What is the easiest way to modify LILO so that I have the option of booting either OS at startup. Mandrake currently occupies hda5-7 and the other OS hda2-3 (swap and /). Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mailman
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:07, Frankie wrote: Hi guys, This is just an FYI message.. I wanted to setup mailman on my mdk9.0 server.. but did not want to use the old version that comes with 9.0. So I grabbed the cooker src rpm (2.1.2 think) and rebuilt it.. all went well and its all working. Much nicer then the old 2.0.x version that 9.0 came with. Just thought I'd mention it here in case anyone else was considering it. Mailman is s much better then Sympa.. I wonder why mandrake don't swap to it. (maybe its not as good at massive lists? or too slow? ) I suspect it's a totally non-technical reason -- say, no one has the time to be messing with it? It's unfortunate that the mailing lists appear to be being deprioritized in favor of web fora like mandrakeexpert and mandrakeclub. We just had an interesting conversation on this front in the slimp3 users' group. Interestingly enough, the slimp3 developers hang out in their users group and were able to participate in the discussion. While web fora had their proponents, it quickly became clear that none of the proponents are actually people qualified to give help. When the people who provide help and software began to mention that they wouldn't join a forum, it definitely got attention. After about a week, the slimp3 people announced they would be rolling out a best-of-both-worlds solution: Mailman. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:23, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. well, not having ssh running is a real pain on a box you can't access physically :-) Of course if it won't run because an upgrade failed or the config file is wrong, you're screwed no matter what. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFce4 and menus
On 01 Jul 2003 23:07:48 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone else using the XFce4 beta? Very nice, still finding my way around it though. Biggest hassle at this point is lack of menu integration. Todd Slater packaged xfce4 for 9.1. On his page he pointed to this program: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/MenuMaker-0.8.tar.gz When you run mmaker xfce4 inside its directory once you've extracted it, it will create a menu that comes up on the left click of your desktop. I've been using it for awhile. John Drouhard -- Wed Jul 2 11:02:27 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFce4 and menus
I've been using the xfce4 beta here as well, though I've hacked around with the setup a bit, so I'm using the gnome panel rather than the xfce panel. That gets around the menu issue (sort of). But it's not a 'true' xfce desktop then I suppose. It's really great though, I've loved it so far. And xfwm4 seems noticeably snappier than metacity, at least on my pc. All in all, very enjoyable :-) Hez On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:07, Jack Coates wrote: anyone else using the XFce4 beta? Very nice, still finding my way around it though. Biggest hassle at this point is lack of menu integration. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] other OS booting real slow after install of Mandrake (lilo used as multiboot)
Hi everyone, Before you flame me for using Windows 2000 Pro :) ,I am a gamer and since my favourite games don't exist for linux, I have to dualboot. I already installed Mandrake 3 times on this machine :) after managing to thrash my linux severely when my mobo was not yet supported and I have same funny effect each time. Windows 2000 boots ok till before the login screen and then it stays there aparently doing nothing for almost 2 minutes... It is annoying. After I do a repair installation of windows 2000 it works ok again till next time I recompile the kernel and install it. Same thing happened to me when I triedto install debian on this machine. So I am starting to beleive it is linux/lilo related. I started letting my system permanently on just to avoid the annoying effect, but don't think this is a good longterm solution. Another funny thing is that a "repair" install of win2k doesn't remove lilo. I wanted to clean up my system at one point to move linux to a new hdd, but lilo remained. Trying a format /mbr didn't do anything. Does anyone know how to remove lilo and let the previous OS boot normally? Best regards, Adrian
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
En/na Joerg Mertin ha escrit: Anyone else got an Idea ? Something like: cp -aRv source target for Imap would be great ... ;) if you can manage to have access to both servers, imapxfer, that comes with UW-imap utilities, should do the job fine (beware, I never tried it, but folks on the cyrus list say it works fine and it will preserve your flags). You'll need UW-imap sources to compile it (don't know if you have to compile them first or it is enough to have them around). http://www.washington.edu/imap/ Bye -- Que les importa a las viudas, a los huérfanos, a los desvalidos si las masacres se hacen en nombre del totalitarismo o en el sagrado nombre de la libertad y la democracia. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Interview: Gaël Duval on finances
Source URL: http://mozillaquest.com/Linux_News03/MandrakeClustering_Story01.html Excerpt: Mandrake's Good Financial News After MandrakeSoft filed the equivalent of a U.S. Chapter 11 bankruptcy, it set about a restructuring designed to make MandrakeSoft a financially viable operation. We asked Gaël Duval about that in our e-mail discussions about the MandrakeClustering announcement. MozillaQuest Magazine: How are you coming along with finances and the bankruptcy? Gaël Duval: No big news, but we have nearly finished our internal restructuring, with a strong commitment to doing business. Gaël Duval: We should be out of the chapter-11 protection in about 8 months (it takes time!). MozillaQuest Magazine: I think lots of people will be glad to hear that you are coming along with the finances and bankruptcy. Gaël Duval: The situation is really better than before for two reasons: 1) MandrakeSoft reorganization is nearly finished and 2) we have focused much on the business side. MozillaQuest Magazine: This is good to hear also. MozillaQuest Magazine: By the business side, is that the Mandrake Corporate server and now the MandrakeClustering? Gaël Duval: They are part of our plans to extend the business! MozillaQuest Magazine: Is the book (The Definitive Guide to Using Mandrake Linux) part of that too? Gaël Duval: It's part of the current plan as well. The good thing is that at the same time, it answers a strong demand from Mandrake users. MozillaQuest Magazine: Anything else within that which you call the business side? Gaël Duval: Improving the Club, improving MandrakeStore: these things also help us to make more business everyday. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] other OS booting real slow after install of Mandrake (lilo used as multiboot)
You mean fdisk /mbr right?? That will over write your boot sector. But rember you will need to reinstall Lilo, so you will need to have a rescue disk ready. :^) Ralph On Wednesday 02 July 2003 12:53 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi everyone, Before you flame me for using Windows 2000 Pro :) , I am a gamer and since my favourite games don't exist for linux, I have to dualboot. I already installed Mandrake 3 times on this machine :) after managing to thrash my linux severely when my mobo was not yet supported and I have same funny effect each time. Windows 2000 boots ok till before the login screen and then it stays there aparently doing nothing for almost 2 minutes... It is annoying. After I do a repair installation of windows 2000 it works ok again till next time I recompile the kernel and install it. Same thing happened to me when I tried to install debian on this machine. So I am starting to beleive it is linux/lilo related. I started letting my system permanently on just to avoid the annoying effect, but don't think this is a good longterm solution. Another funny thing is that a repair install of win2k doesn't remove lilo. I wanted to clean up my system at one point to move linux to a new hdd, but lilo remained. Trying a format /mbr didn't do anything. Does anyone know how to remove lilo and let the previous OS boot normally? Best regards, Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
En/na Thomas Backlund ha escrit: Anyone else got an Idea ? Something like: cp -aRv source target for Imap would be great ... ;) using Google I found this: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/chapter/ch09.html Beware: that covers cyrus imapd 1.5.x and it's pretty obsolete now. For example, cyradm was tcl based then, it is perl now, so the scripts won't work. Someone adapted those scripts to perl, but you'll have to google for them. Bye -- Que les importa a las viudas, a los huérfanos, a los desvalidos si las masacres se hacen en nombre del totalitarismo o en el sagrado nombre de la libertad y la democracia. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] XFce4 and menus
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 09:07, John Drouhard wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 23:07:48 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone else using the XFce4 beta? Very nice, still finding my way around it though. Biggest hassle at this point is lack of menu integration. Todd Slater packaged xfce4 for 9.1. On his page he pointed to this program: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/MenuMaker-0.8.tar.gz When you run mmaker xfce4 inside its directory once you've extracted it, it will create a menu that comes up on the left click of your desktop. I've been using it for awhile. John Drouhard thanks -- didn't pick up the crossover menus I was looking for, but I can do those manually I suppose. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Unknown problem
My mdk9.0 server was running fine (almost fine, it had some freezing problems that i've posted in this list sometime ago) until the moment I tried to access the webpage. I figured out that it went offline. So, when I turned on the server screen to see what went wrong, i saw this: _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess postdrop _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess sendmail _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess crond _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess add_members Nothing was working. Even Ctrl+C or ctrl+alt+del wasn't working. What does this mean? How can i fix it? (note that the keyboard lights weren't blinking, like when there is a freeze. The numlock key was working fine) -- Leonardo Sá leo at netserver dot cjb dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bittorrent
Hi James On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 00:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 04:33, richard bown wrote: Hi all Ive been using bittorrent on windows for a while, works fine So I thought I'd try the linux version of the client, so downloaded the rpm from cooker built it and installed the files and the gui. Its been written in python, and each of the binaries seems to do something. But what it dos'nt do is handle the download .ie. if you click on the download icon on say downloadparadise all you get is a screen full of garbage. The documentation I've found is'nt very helpfull. Has anyone tried this ,and if so how did they get it to work. Ive tried xmule and that works fine, the trouble is there most of the sites are just full of p0rn.. TIA Richard The key has always been to declare the mime type to your browser so that it knows to use the bittorrent helper application. Have you done this? james No, this is the bit I'm not sure how to do, a pointer in the right direction please TIA Richard __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bittorrent
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 12:21, Richard Bown wrote: Hi James On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 00:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 04:33, richard bown wrote: Hi all Ive been using bittorrent on windows for a while, works fine So I thought I'd try the linux version of the client, so downloaded the rpm from cooker built it and installed the files and the gui. Its been written in python, and each of the binaries seems to do something. But what it dos'nt do is handle the download .ie. if you click on the download icon on say downloadparadise all you get is a screen full of garbage. The documentation I've found is'nt very helpfull. Has anyone tried this ,and if so how did they get it to work. Ive tried xmule and that works fine, the trouble is there most of the sites are just full of p0rn.. TIA Richard The key has always been to declare the mime type to your browser so that it knows to use the bittorrent helper application. Have you done this? james No, this is the bit I'm not sure how to do, a pointer in the right direction please TIA Richard first of all a plug for a decent tutorial.. and it has links to other decent ones. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4760 then if you are using Mozilla and want it to do it via the browser. open Edit--Preferences--Navigator--Helper Applications click on the button in the upper right labeled New Type Your settings mime type application/bittorrent description whatever you want extension .torrent (I don't have a bittorrent enabled box in front of me ... I'm 99% sure on this one though) The choose the open with radio button and then click choose and navigate to what should be /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py (if it's not there find out where you put it.) Click OK twice and on most Mozilla browsers this is all it takes.. now go to the url and it should start up for you. On a few boxes I've had to close all browser windows and restart a new one to get it to take. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Unknown problem
how much RAM? On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 11:22, Leonardo Sá wrote: My mdk9.0 server was running fine (almost fine, it had some freezing problems that i've posted in this list sometime ago) until the moment I tried to access the webpage. I figured out that it went offline. So, when I turned on the server screen to see what went wrong, i saw this: _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess postdrop _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess sendmail _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess crond _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess add_members Nothing was working. Even Ctrl+C or ctrl+alt+del wasn't working. What does this mean? How can i fix it? (note that the keyboard lights weren't blinking, like when there is a freeze. The numlock key was working fine) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Parent vs Child
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 23:27, Michael Adams wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 15:51:18 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 14:57, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 14:45:24 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:37, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 12:52:33 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works as expected.. the parent automatically dies and the child continues it's run... Problem is when I put a similar case into an RPM and it runs it. It hangs. RPM will not continue until child runs it's course. And all the time that rpm #1 is open I can't start installing rpm #2 (the rpm database does not multi-task.) g. Although rpm uses bash shell scripts it sure doesn't use them correctly. Sorry, I don't follow all the threads... From what you say here, I think what you are up against is DB locking... and that won't be solved with multiple threads unless the DB allows it, which I doubt. Kinda sounds like the rpm DB is Linux' registry in this respect... correct and if I can figure out how to make rpm start the auto install script ... then release it to continue on it's merry way I can cut installation time for my company by 40% Or at least the time required to find out if all rpms install correctly. (the rpm in question takes about 80% of the total install time just waiting for the script is spawns to run.) Not to disimilar to the situation where you install a new kernel. It runs a number of commands (such as install_kernel) that if there was a way to run them ... then let the rpm command finish while they continue on their own. The system would be able to begin installing the next rpm while the install_kernel command etc finished on it's own. You know the old theory ... you can do anything with software... we'll, I'm trying to prove just that. *grin* So you're gonna rip rpm apart and have it use separate DBs aligned with the package categories already defined by Mdk... Cool! :^) :^) Not quite I'm trying to find a way to make rpm -Uvh spawn off processes that allow the first rpm -Uvh to end, freeing up the rpmdb to accept a new rpm -Uvh. kinda like _ installation script for rpm1 running. / / rpm -Uvh rpm1.rpm (rpm complets) _ installation script rpm2 \ / \ / - rpm -Uvh rpm2.rpm (rpm completes) \ \ - rpm -Uvh rpm3.rpm instead of the more linear process it is now. I don't want to get into rpm itself... but rather figure out how to spawn independent processes rather than dependent ones. Right now if in the rpm I put %postin nohup /usr/local/bin/autoinstallscript1 RPM itself will wait no matter what for that command string to finish. I don't want it to wait. I want it to do anything else it has to do, finish and not care what happens to the above command string. I can do this from a command line ... but for reasons beyond my ken when bash commands are used in rpm they act differently. On your point.. yes ... I agree that rpm could more affectively handle the database. There is no reason why it should lock the db after it figures out if all dependencies are met unless it's actively writing to the db. Data can be gathered and written asynchronously as easily as it could be done synchronously so why not... but that's another battle for another day. James If The script that I want to break off had any affect on the rpm database the answer would be yes... I'd have trouble. However it doesn't At the point I'm trying to break out (%postin) Everything that needs to be done, and in fact can be done concerning the rpm database is completed. All that is left as far as the RPM is concerned is writing to the rpm database. So what I'm trying to do is make it write to that database and exit Leaving the auto-install script to run it's course separately and on it's own. I don't want to run rpm twice in parallel but rather have rpm kick out a process that runs independent of the rpm command. Rather more like this. At 12:15 A enters a bank to close out his/her account. by 12:45 The clerk has completed the close out transaction all accept for getting final signatures and collecting all bank cards. The computer sends a signal to the accounting dept that all records/transactions on this account need to be closed out and archived and they begin this process. At 12:50 The clerk thanks the customer and the customer leaves. Now here is the reaction the
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:36, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:23, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. well, not having ssh running is a real pain on a box you can't access physically :-) Of course if it won't run because an upgrade failed or the config file is wrong, you're screwed no matter what. Yep.. and having it for a remote situation (Like I live in California and I Have a corporate server in Michigan) can be a real plus. Otherwise the only recourse is to have the guys in Michigan reboot the box and hope that ssh restarts. On a box that you are always in front of (Like a laptop) I'd say it's not so needed... but for a remote server. It can be a godsend. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interview: Gaël Duval on finances
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 09:48, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Source URL: http://mozillaquest.com/Linux_News03/MandrakeClustering_Story01.html Excerpt: Mandrake's Good Financial News After MandrakeSoft filed the equivalent of a U.S. Chapter 11 bankruptcy, it set about a restructuring designed to make MandrakeSoft a financially viable operation. We asked Gal Duval about that in our e-mail discussions about the MandrakeClustering announcement. MozillaQuest Magazine: How are you coming along with finances and the bankruptcy? Gal Duval: No big news, but we have nearly finished our internal restructuring, with a strong commitment to doing business. Gal Duval: We should be out of the chapter-11 protection in about 8 months (it takes time!). MozillaQuest Magazine: I think lots of people will be glad to hear that you are coming along with the finances and bankruptcy. Gal Duval: The situation is really better than before for two reasons: 1) MandrakeSoft reorganization is nearly finished and 2) we have focused much on the business side. MozillaQuest Magazine: This is good to hear also. MozillaQuest Magazine: By the business side, is that the Mandrake Corporate server and now the MandrakeClustering? Gal Duval: They are part of our plans to extend the business! MozillaQuest Magazine: Is the book (The Definitive Guide to Using Mandrake Linux) part of that too? Gal Duval: It's part of the current plan as well. The good thing is that at the same time, it answers a strong demand from Mandrake users. MozillaQuest Magazine: Anything else within that which you call the business side? Gal Duval: Improving the Club, improving MandrakeStore: these things also help us to make more business everyday. Now the question. Any chance this will include a way to submit bugs for the release version! (and no I won't hold my breath waiting.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Unknown problem
400 MB ram Em Qua 02 Jul 2003 16:00, Jack Coates escreveu: how much RAM? On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 11:22, Leonardo Sá wrote: My mdk9.0 server was running fine (almost fine, it had some freezing problems that i've posted in this list sometime ago) until the moment I tried to access the webpage. I figured out that it went offline. So, when I turned on the server screen to see what went wrong, i saw this: _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess postdrop _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess sendmail _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess crond _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess add_members Nothing was working. Even Ctrl+C or ctrl+alt+del wasn't working. What does this mean? How can i fix it? (note that the keyboard lights weren't blinking, like when there is a freeze. The numlock key was working fine) -- Leonardo Sá leo at netserver dot cjb dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 23:22, Robert Crawford wrote: James, I am using reiserfs on all partitions, but it doesn't seem to affect anything negatively so far. Where did you get that info- I don't recall ever reading anything like that before? If I'm doing something incorrectly, I'd sure like to correct it! Just from experience. AKA I've not been able to get my reiserfs partitioned boxes to boot correctly without an initrd.img It also comes from reading a number of related threads in the cooker etc. Things initrd.img does allow you to do is to mount those things that don't have a way to be mounted until a kernel is booted. (pcmcia ide-scsi usb etc etc.) a number of modern periperals on the pci bus also seem to need this to start. If you boot. I'd say you aren't doing anything wrong. You boot it works.. it's not broken. But if it doesn't boot or things have trouble initializing ... this may be the reason. James Janet- I have ATI Radeon cards in my boxes, so I'm not really up on the ins and outs of Nvidia linux drivers, but I'm sure someone here can help you. I think nvidia linux support is geting pretty decent now, and it shouldn't be too hard getting things sorted out. I've read that when installing nvidia drivers, it has to be compiled into the kernel. Rober C. On Tuesday 01 July 2003 18:21, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 21:14, Robert Crawford wrote: Janet, Frankly, I'm no expert, and don't really know exactly what the relevance of kernel.h is, except that it's generated at boot time. I seem to have multiple versions, but they are all exactly the same content. Very curious. I'm sure many people on this list know far more than I do on the subject. I believe and initrd.img isn't required unless you have scsi drives. I know I've left it out when compiling lots of 2.4.xx kernels, and they all work fine, so I guess that's likely true, as I don't have any scsi drives. Or if you are using a journaled file system like reiserfs. Keep us posted on your 2.5.xx experience. I've build 2.5.67 through 2.5.72 with varying degrees of success. I just tried 2.5.73 today with the bk6 patch, and it went well, but then it doesn't boot- just a black screen. 2.5's are really not ready for much except testing purposes, at least for me. I've really tried to get them to work for months, and have gotten it down to either they work fine with no serial drives enabled (thus no internet/modem), or serial drivers enabled, and lots of serious file manager problems (freezes and long delays). For me, it's been a show stopper so far, and seemingly unsolvable. Robert C. On Tuesday 01 July 2003 21:10, kiosk wrote: Thank you so much, Robert, for an elegant description of a process which has been to some extent mysterious for me for some time, despite my experience in compiling kernels for various Slackware installations. I intend to experiment with a 2.5.xx kernel in the hope that my E7205 chipset will be supported so that I can load the AGPGART module for my NVIDIA card. However, I wonder if you would be so kind as to explain the presence of the kernel.h file in /boot, and it's relevance to the boot process. I don't think I need, and, ideally, would dispense with kernel.h and initrd.img. I'm not sure that I need to patch a kernel at all, but if I can patch a stable kernel, and, as a result, load AGPGART, then perhaps that would be the way to go? Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:39:17 -0400 Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup. However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could try is copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to it's own directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing it as root in /usr/src, especially for people like me still learning).Then make a backup of your .config file, and cd in a console (as user) to the new directory in /home where you copied the MDK kernel sources to, and run mrproper. Then, try applying the Hz patch. If it applies OK, do a make xconfig and load the copy of your stock .config file into xconfig., Then change the value of the Hz line to =1000Hz, and save and exit. VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the file to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied, otherwise if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version) is the same, it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not create a new -ck2 version. In
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 15:22, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 23:22, Robert Crawford wrote: James, I am using reiserfs on all partitions, but it doesn't seem to affect anything negatively so far. Where did you get that info- I don't recall ever reading anything like that before? If I'm doing something incorrectly, I'd sure like to correct it! Just from experience. AKA I've not been able to get my reiserfs partitioned boxes to boot correctly without an initrd.img It also comes from reading a number of related threads in the cooker etc. Things initrd.img does allow you to do is to mount those things that don't have a way to be mounted until a kernel is booted. (pcmcia ide-scsi usb etc etc.) a number of modern periperals on the pci bus also seem to need this to start. If you boot. I'd say you aren't doing anything wrong. You boot it works.. it's not broken. But if it doesn't boot or things have trouble initializing ... this may be the reason. James James, This makes a lot of sense. As I don't have much attached to my boxes, only a BJC240 printer and a serial modem, that must explain why I'm not running into trouble. I do ocassionally borrow my ex-wife's Canon Powershot G2 digital USB camera, and that hooks up OK through the Konqueror Control Center. I expect you are correct though- if I tried much else I'd start having problems. Robert C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Dual Boot Linux Windows 2000 with RAID1?
Have you guys been able to have Raid with two harddrives and dual boot linux windows 2000? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mozilla 1.4 can't find java plug-in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed Mozilla 1.4 on a stock LM 8.1 system. The installation appeared to go fine. When I go to news.bbc.co.uk, I am told that I have to download a java plug- in. I do this, and the plug-in says that it has installed correctly. Now when I restart Mozilla, I get an error message failed to initialize shared library /usr.../libjavaplugin_oji.so. And when I go to the BBC web site, it still says that I need to load the plug-in. If I do-reinstall it, it again says that the installation is successful, but it still says that I need to download the plug-in when I return to the BBC site. Anyone any ideas? Mozilla 0.9.4 works fine (and continues to do so, even after I installed Mozilla 1.4). Doc PS I keep trying to access the reflector archives at linux-mandrake.com, but the site has been accessible since at least yesterday afternoon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Key obtainable from servers: ID 0x362912B8 iQA/AwUBPwNBtWnXrLw2KRK4EQJh4QCfciVB8w5dZHa7JXsSHuJ8fjAva3EAoLlk 2PKRkSMnCfWSLhH0tQzxHeaq =3Yoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LM and arbour
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sent this yesterday, but I never saw it posted. So I'll try again. - - Has anyone succeeded in getting arbour 0.9beta2 (i.e., the current pre- release version) to build under LM? I have two LM systems (one LM 8.1 and one LM 9.0) and both of them fail when trying to build JACK (which is a prerequisite for arbour). The specific error is: checking for snd_pcm_drop in -lasound... no configure: WARNING: ALSA 0.9 support not found Sound has never worked quite right on the LM 8.1 system (for example Real One gives garbled output no matter what I do, and none of the programs that are supposed to record audio have ever worked -- but playing system sounds and CDs seem to be fine). The LM 9.0 system seems to behave correctly for the few sound-related things I've done on it. Anyone any pointers/ideas as to what I should try to get JACK to install correctly? I confess that Linux sound has always been a mystery to me, despite having read quite a few supposed tutorials on the subject. (For example, the ALSA site talks about various entries that have to be in the modules.conf file, but Mandrake didn't put anything like that in my module.conf files, and the sound more or less seems to work. I don't like messing with anything that Mandrake configures during installation, since I assume that the Mandrake folk understand these things a bzillion times better than I do.) Doc PS I've been installing the various required packages using the old- fashioned configure/make/install procedure. Trying rpm quickly got me to the point where it was telling me that it needed to do stupid things like install an updated DHCP server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Key obtainable from servers: ID 0x362912B8 iQA/AwUBPwNF8GnXrLw2KRK4EQL3iACgnN75o6tsC1HYdh9UYveWYrVVlbEAoLwj Z/AmO/Xzi1IQUABMhp5BJ0jm =5FCT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 03:31 pm, David Rankin wrote: Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. As an anal accountant, I just hate it showing up in my logs every 5 minutes, especially when it is always running. Perahps there is a way for it to only make a log entry if it actually has to do something. I wonder also if it has anything to do with some of the connection errors I have been getting since being on 9.1. I tunnel vnc through ssh so I can access my machine from work. I find that 3 or 4 times throughout the day, PuTTy is giving me a connection error. Since I uninstalled sshd-monitor, I have not had this happen. Perhaps somehow the restart blows the connection. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dual Boot Linux Windows 2000 with RAID1?
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 04:16 pm, Sevatio wrote: Have you guys been able to have Raid with two harddrives and dual boot linux windows 2000? What kind of RAID are you talking about? IDE, SCSI, software, etc. If you mean, can it be done by using one of those embeddded Highpoint or Promise ATA-RAID controllers, which require Windows drivers, you can pretty much forget it. SCSI I am sure works, and Linux software RAID does not work in Windows, and it is tricky to boot Linux off of. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to force use of HTTPS for a part of the web site?
The idea is certainly very nice. But, in my case, it does not work. I do not know why nor what to do to debug this Thanks. /stefano Bill Mullen wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Stefano Pogliani IMAP wrote: I wish to make my mails available via Squirrelmail. I think it will be correct to use HTTPS when using my mail over the internet. Agreed, this is a Good Thing To Do. :) So, I wish to make the /myMail alias of my Apache 2 installation ONLY AVAILABLE via HTTPS. SquirrelMail can force this all by itself. Run the config script, called /var/www/squirrelmail/config/conf.pl, and choose option 8, Plugins. Look for the secure_login plugin, under Available plugins. Enter the number beside this entry at the prompt; you'll see it jump up into the Imstalled Plugins list (and have a new number). Enter S, to save the new configuration. Now, whenever you attempt to connect to it with plain HTTP, it will force a redirect to the HTTPS equivalent of the same address. Very handy. ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
Hi Lucas, thx for the Hint. I tried it out - but it seems the imapxfer (it was renamed into : mailutil on newer version) does only work with uw-imap servers, and not with cyrus-imap servers - at least - for the writing part ... I'll keep on trying. Thx for the hint JOerg Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Joerg Mertin ha escrit: Anyone else got an Idea ? Something like: cp -aRv source target for Imap would be great ... ;) if you can manage to have access to both servers, imapxfer, that comes with UW-imap utilities, should do the job fine (beware, I never tried it, but folks on the cyrus list say it works fine and it will preserve your flags). You'll need UW-imap sources to compile it (don't know if you have to compile them first or it is enough to have them around). http://www.washington.edu/imap/ Bye -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Transfer mail from uw-Imap - Cyrus Imapd ?
En/na Joerg Mertin ha escrit: Hi Lucas, thx for the Hint. I tried it out - but it seems the imapxfer (it was renamed into : mailutil on newer version) does only work with uw-imap I just downloaded imap-utils.tar.Z from http://www.washington.edu/imap/ and imapxfer is still there servers, and not with cyrus-imap servers - at least - for the writing part ... As it seems not everybody has been successful in using it: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/archive/search.php?mailbox=archive.info-cyrussearchterm=imapxfer Bye -- Que les importa a las viudas, a los huérfanos, a los desvalidos si las masacres se hacen en nombre del totalitarismo o en el sagrado nombre de la libertad y la democracia. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.4 can't find java plug-in
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:34:09 -0600 D. R. Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not doubting you (well, not really) but it seems pretty bizarre that Mozilla happily says that everything is OK when it fact it needs a newer release of java than the one I have installed. (And even more bizarre that it requires a beta release of java instead of real release). It not the release per-say that causes the issue but the version of gcc with which the 2 were compiled. If you will recall, or check the archives, there was a period that mozilla and galeon Had to be compiled using gcc-2.9.6, even though the default for the distro was 3.0 or + because 2.9.6 was the only version supported by any of the java vendors, sun. ibm, or blackdown. Charles -- Seek simplicity -- and distrust it. -- Alfred North Whitehead - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk xconfig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I lost the email that mentioned how to get 2.4.21-0.18 to build (fails at xconfig). What file needs to be edited to fix this? praedor - -- The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public. - --Justice Hugo Black GnuPG fingerprint: D170 2A02 B426 6AA0 5E68 3EDC 68AA FDB0 961E 4F18 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/A1dsaKr9sJYeTxgRAkJDAKCigpUX25NjA0/U/td/D8qGhcug0wCfXuLq 73ufTDn6W5g2f3UkxwKBEM0= =0QSY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Security and permissions problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After I originally found that all users could see other user's home contents, I tried first changing to security level 3. Someone else mentioned I could set the home permission to 700. Both methods have screwed up my system and I can't seem to get it back even though I switched to security level 2. My system is OK at the moment but there will come a time (how long it takes is unknown as yet) when all of a sudden, I cannot open konsoles, xterms, or start any app for that matter. The perms on my home directory will change that will 1) prevent KDE from working because it can't get write permissions to my home, and 2) kmail wont be able to download/store email because it wont have write permission to my ~/Mail directories. I have had to twice login as root and chown praedor.praedor /home/praedor and set my home perm to 711, then 755. I restarted DrakConf and then went to Drakperms and set the security level to 2 and made sure that /home/* was no longer editable and no longer 700 but nevertheless I get this repetitious problem. What security level will allow users to actually USE their home directories, window managers, etc, without problems but also prevent other users from looking at the contents of their HOME dirs? praedor - -- The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public. - --Justice Hugo Black GnuPG fingerprint: D170 2A02 B426 6AA0 5E68 3EDC 68AA FDB0 961E 4F18 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/A1i9aKr9sJYeTxgRAlxXAKCvVyZmYOc9nBhr1SXpocDs2Vjw6ACfbi3Z pYuCFH38R64wgWeadS6WDEk= =WuYu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Unknown problem
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:22, Leonardo Sá wrote: My mdk9.0 server was running fine (almost fine, it had some freezing problems that i've posted in this list sometime ago) until the moment I tried to access the webpage. I figured out that it went offline. So, when I turned on the server screen to see what went wrong, i saw this: _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) _alloc_pages:0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) VM: killing proccess add_members The error messages were found in page_alloc.c in the kernel sources and seem to indicate that you completely ran out of memory (both swap and physical). This is only a guess, but you might try logging memory usage to another machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk xconfig - fixed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nevermind, I ran an strace on make xconfig and it pointed me to the problem entry in drivers/net/Config.in On Wednesday 02 July 2003 05:06 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I lost the email that mentioned how to get 2.4.21-0.18 to build (fails at xconfig). What file needs to be edited to fix this? praedor - -- The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public. - --Justice Hugo Black GnuPG fingerprint: D170 2A02 B426 6AA0 5E68 3EDC 68AA FDB0 961E 4F18 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/A1uOaKr9sJYeTxgRApfiAJ9N8iJdBvuJg0XRbm3hgTsXzhvGQQCgnlUn cqP5wSFpUkz8RivdPs42F0c= =KVGD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security and permissions problems
On September 1993 plus 3591 days Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After I originally found that all users could see other user's home contents, I tried first changing to security level 3. Someone else mentioned I could set the home permission to 700. Both methods have screwed up my system and I can't seem to get it back even though I switched to security level 2. My system is OK at the moment but there will come a time (how long it takes is unknown as yet) when all of a sudden, I cannot open konsoles, xterms, or start any app for that matter. The perms on my home directory will change that will 1) prevent KDE from working because it can't get write permissions to my home, and 2) kmail wont be able to download/store email because it wont have write permission to my ~/Mail directories. I have had to twice login as root and chown praedor.praedor /home/praedor and set my home perm to 711, then 755. I restarted DrakConf and then went to Drakperms and set the security level to 2 and made sure that /home/* was no longer editable and no longer 700 but nevertheless I get this repetitious problem. What security level will allow users to actually USE their home directories, window managers, etc, without problems but also prevent other users from looking at the contents of their HOME dirs? Uhm...I use msec3 always, on all machines, and never have problems using any apps...I think you messed up the perms in drakperms in some way. What I *have* noticed a couple of times (not tried lately...this happened in the 8.x days) is that if you go from a higher level to a lower level of msec, some perms do get messed up and you have to fix them by hand before msec will start listening to you again. But that happened both times going from 5 to 3, and the problems you are referring to are not problems that I can relate to 3 in any way. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Mozilla 1.4 can't find java plug-in
Remove the downloaded java plugin. From Sun, download thge new jdk 1.4.2 - it is mentioned in the mozilla 1.4 rel notes. Then make a link in the mozilla/plugin directory to the jre/lib/plugin/ns-gcc32/libjava.so Edo D. R. Evans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed Mozilla 1.4 on a stock LM 8.1 system. The installation appeared to go fine. When I go to news.bbc.co.uk, I am told that I have to download a java plug- in. I do this, and the plug-in says that it has installed correctly. Now when I restart Mozilla, I get an error message failed to initialize shared library /usr.../libjavaplugin_oji.so. And when I go to the BBC web site, it still says that I need to load the plug-in. If I do-reinstall it, it again says that the installation is successful, but it still says that I need to download the plug-in when I return to the BBC site. Anyone any ideas? Mozilla 0.9.4 works fine (and continues to do so, even after I installed Mozilla 1.4). Doc PS I keep trying to access the reflector archives at linux-mandrake.com, but the site has been accessible since at least yesterday afternoon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Key obtainable from servers: ID 0x362912B8 iQA/AwUBPwNBtWnXrLw2KRK4EQJh4QCfciVB8w5dZHa7JXsSHuJ8fjAva3EAoLlk 2PKRkSMnCfWSLhH0tQzxHeaq =3Yoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk xconfig
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I lost the email that mentioned how to get 2.4.21-0.18 to build (fails at xconfig). What file needs to be edited to fix this? praedor This fixes the network config.in bug: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=516action=view This fixes a drm config.in bug: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=517action=view This fixes an alsa config.in bug: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=518action=view Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security and permissions problems
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3591 days Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After I originally found that all users could see other user's home contents, I tried first changing to security level 3. Someone else mentioned I could set the home permission to 700. Both methods have screwed up my system and I can't seem to get it back even though I switched to security level 2. My system is OK at the moment but there will come a time (how long it takes is unknown as yet) when all of a sudden, I cannot open konsoles, xterms, or start any app for that matter. The perms on my home directory will change that will 1) prevent KDE from working because it can't get write permissions to my home, and 2) kmail wont be able to download/store email because it wont have write permission to my ~/Mail directories. I have had to twice login as root and chown praedor.praedor /home/praedor and set my home perm to 711, then 755. I restarted DrakConf and then went to Drakperms and set the security level to 2 and made sure that /home/* was no longer editable and no longer 700 but nevertheless I get this repetitious problem. What security level will allow users to actually USE their home directories, window managers, etc, without problems but also prevent other users from looking at the contents of their HOME dirs? Uhm...I use msec3 always, on all machines, and never have problems using any apps...I think you messed up the perms in drakperms in some way. What I *have* noticed a couple of times (not tried lately...this happened in the 8.x days) is that if you go from a higher level to a lower level of msec, some perms do get messed up and you have to fix them by hand before msec will start listening to you again. But that happened both times going from 5 to 3, and the problems you are referring to are not problems that I can relate to 3 in any way. Vox I use msec 4, with a few custom tweaks. I've never* had any problems (with using apps, any way). All my homedirs are 700. *Unless you consider that promiscuous check a problem. That crazy thing would always spam my logs until I finally figured out how to disable it for good. Also a few of the other directories were mod'd to some annoying level, but I fixed them in the perms file. -- -chort AKA Brian Keefer The thoughts I express are generally piped from /dev/random, needless to say they do not represent my fine employer: CipherTrust, Inc - www.ciphertrust.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 13:46, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 03:31 pm, David Rankin wrote: Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. As an anal accountant, I just hate it showing up in my logs every 5 minutes, especially when it is always running. Perahps there is a way for it to only make a log entry if it actually has to do something. I wonder also if it has anything to do with some of the connection errors I have been getting since being on 9.1. I tunnel vnc through ssh so I can access my machine from work. I find that 3 or 4 times throughout the day, PuTTy is giving me a connection error. Since I uninstalled sshd-monitor, I have not had this happen. Perhaps somehow the restart blows the connection. Makes sense. If it's happening every 5 minutes your chances of coming in at just the wrong time are pretty good. There should have been a config file somewhere that would allow for the changing of the time interval. But... if it's gone and it works... don't fix it *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 02:22:50 -0400 Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janet- I have ATI Radeon cards in my boxes, so I'm not really up on the ins and outs of Nvidia linux drivers, but I'm sure someone here can help you. I think nvidia linux support is geting pretty decent now, and it shouldn't be too hard getting things sorted out. I've read that when installing nvidia drivers, it has to be compiled into the kernel. Thank you, Robert, but as I explain in my other message, it's more the AGP slot which is the problem. The NVidia drivers are fine and install without a hitch - it's just that I'm limited to 2D without Intel E7205 support in the kernel. Thanks for yr response. Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFce4 and menus
I installed it about a month ago. Very nice, a big improvement over XFce 3. What's especially nice is the file manager xffm which will browse your samba shares as well as manage files. But, I dropped back to my old combo of fluxbox and rox because of the lack of menu integration. Perhaps Mdk will pick up Xfce4 for 9.2? On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:07, Jack Coates wrote: anyone else using the XFce4 beta? Very nice, still finding my way around it though. Biggest hassle at this point is lack of menu integration. -- Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security and permissions problems
On Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 05:12:13PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
After I originally found that all users could see other user's home contents,
I tried first changing to security level 3. Someone else mentioned I could
set the home permission to 700.
Both methods have screwed up my system and I can't seem to get it back even
though I switched to security level 2. My system is OK at the moment but
there will come a time (how long it takes is unknown as yet) when all of a
sudden, I cannot open konsoles, xterms, or start any app for that matter.
The perms on my home directory will change that will 1) prevent KDE from
working because it can't get write permissions to my home, and 2) kmail wont
be able to download/store email because it wont have write permission to my
~/Mail directories. I have had to twice login as root and chown
praedor.praedor /home/praedor and set my home perm to 711, then 755.
I restarted DrakConf and then went to Drakperms and set the security level to
2 and made sure that /home/* was no longer editable and no longer 700 but
nevertheless I get this repetitious problem.
What security level will allow users to actually USE their home directories,
window managers, etc, without problems but also prevent other users from
looking at the contents of their HOME dirs?
# msec 3
This is the level I always use. Any further tightening I do on my own.
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MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 13:10, Robert Crawford wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 15:22, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 23:22, Robert Crawford wrote: James, I am using reiserfs on all partitions, but it doesn't seem to affect anything negatively so far. Where did you get that info- I don't recall ever reading anything like that before? If I'm doing something incorrectly, I'd sure like to correct it! Just from experience. AKA I've not been able to get my reiserfs partitioned boxes to boot correctly without an initrd.img It also comes from reading a number of related threads in the cooker etc. Things initrd.img does allow you to do is to mount those things that don't have a way to be mounted until a kernel is booted. (pcmcia ide-scsi usb etc etc.) a number of modern periperals on the pci bus also seem to need this to start. If you boot. I'd say you aren't doing anything wrong. You boot it works.. it's not broken. But if it doesn't boot or things have trouble initializing ... this may be the reason. James James, This makes a lot of sense. As I don't have much attached to my boxes, only a BJC240 printer and a serial modem, that must explain why I'm not running into trouble. I do ocassionally borrow my ex-wife's Canon Powershot G2 digital USB camera, and that hooks up OK through the Konqueror Control Center. I expect you are correct though- if I tried much else I'd start having problems. Robert C. IF! (and it's a big if that's why the caps) I understand it correctly once fully booted... All of these things will work whether you had initrd or not. But if they are needed at boot. They won't ... James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Parent vs Child
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:27:29 +1200 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 15:51:18 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 14:57, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 14:45:24 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:37, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 12:52:33 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works as expected.. the parent automatically dies and the child continues it's run... Problem is when I put a similar case into an RPM and it runs it. It hangs. RPM will not continue until child runs it's course. And all the time that rpm #1 is open I can't start installing rpm #2 (the rpm database does not multi-task.) g. Although rpm uses bash shell scripts it sure doesn't use them correctly. Sorry, I don't follow all the threads... From what you say here, I think what you are up against is DB locking... and that won't be solved with multiple threads unless the DB allows it, which I doubt. Kinda sounds like the rpm DB is Linux' registry in this respect... correct and if I can figure out how to make rpm start the auto install script ... then release it to continue on it's merry way I can cut installation time for my company by 40% Or at least the time required to find out if all rpms install correctly. (the rpm in question takes about 80% of the total install time just waiting for the script is spawns to run.) Not to disimilar to the situation where you install a new kernel. It runs a number of commands (such as install_kernel) that if there was a way to run them ... then let the rpm command finish while they continue on their own. The system would be able to begin installing the next rpm while the install_kernel command etc finished on it's own. You know the old theory ... you can do anything with software... we'll, I'm trying to prove just that. *grin* So you're gonna rip rpm apart and have it use separate DBs aligned with the package categories already defined by Mdk... Cool! :^) :^) Not quite I'm trying to find a way to make rpm -Uvh spawn off processes that allow the first rpm -Uvh to end, freeing up the rpmdb to accept a new rpm -Uvh. kinda like _ installation script for rpm1 running. / / rpm -Uvh rpm1.rpm (rpm complets) _ installation script rpm2 \ / \ / - rpm -Uvh rpm2.rpm (rpm completes) \ \ - rpm -Uvh rpm3.rpm instead of the more linear process it is now. I don't want to get into rpm itself... but rather figure out how to spawn independent processes rather than dependent ones. Right now if in the rpm I put %postin nohup /usr/local/bin/autoinstallscript1 RPM itself will wait no matter what for that command string to finish. I don't want it to wait. I want it to do anything else it has to do, finish and not care what happens to the above command string. I can do this from a command line ... but for reasons beyond my ken when bash commands are used in rpm they act differently. On your point.. yes ... I agree that rpm could more affectively handle the database. There is no reason why it should lock the db after it figures out if all dependencies are met unless it's actively writing to the db. Data can be gathered and written asynchronously as easily as it could be done synchronously so why not... but that's another battle for another day. James Wouldn't you run into trouble with databases. There is a built in interlock which only allows one instance to have rw access to a record at a time. Others may have read but not read-write access. I'll explain it further with a joint bank account. Balance = $155.00 Scenario 1 12:55.02 - He accesses the account with his Eftpos card to pay for a bussiness lunch of $130.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares the transaction. 12:55.04 - She is at the 'ladies club' and also tries to pay for lunch at $125.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares teh transaction. 12:55.06 - His transaction completes and the balance is ammended. Now there is $25.00 in the account. 12:55.08 - Her transaction completes and the balance is ammended. $155.00 - $125.00 = $25.00 gets written back to the account as the balance overwriting the previous transaction and the bank is out of pocket. He gets a free lunch. Scenario 2 12:55.02 - He accesses the account with his Eftpos card to pay for a bussiness lunch - a lock is placed until
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:14:24 -0400 Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janet, Frankly, I'm no expert, and don't really know exactly what the relevance of kernel.h is, except that it's generated at boot time. I seem to have multiple versions, but they are all exactly the same content. Very curious. I'm sure many people on this list know far more than I do on the subject. I believe and initrd.img isn't required unless you have scsi drives. I know I've left it out when compiling lots of 2.4.xx kernels, and they all work fine, so I guess that's likely true, as I don't have any scsi drives. Keep us posted on your 2.5.xx experience. I've build 2.5.67 through 2.5.72 with varying degrees of success. I just tried 2.5.73 today with the bk6 patch, and it went well, but then it doesn't boot- just a black screen. 2.5's are really not ready for much except testing purposes, at least for me. I've really tried to get them to work for months, and have gotten it down to either they work fine with no serial drives enabled (thus no internet/modem), or serial drivers enabled, and lots of serious file manager problems (freezes and long delays). For me, it's been a show stopper so far, and seemingly unsolvable. Ah! This is bad news. Basically, I'm trying to get my AGP slot recognised but the stable kernels have not yet got support for Intel E7205 (I have an Asus P4G8X motherboard). I guess I can wait. I did think it was a little early to find decent support for such recent hardware. My machine came with the job, and runs win2000 extremely well, but I don't suppose the IT department considered I'd want to run Linux too. I think I will try compiling a 2.5.xx anyway, just to see what breaks. I do use a modem. At least I now know how to set up a testing kernel without hosing my MDK installation, for which, many thanks. Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interview: Gaël Duval on finances
On Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 12:32:07PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
MozillaQuest Magazine: Anything else within that which you call the
business side?
Gal Duval: Improving the Club, improving MandrakeStore: these things
also help us to make more business everyday.
Now the question. Any chance this will include a way to submit bugs for
the release version! (and no I won't hold my breath waiting.)
Without holding your breath, or my own, I've setup a Proof of Concept for
release bug tracking using Anthill and, to my utter annoyance, there has
been very little response from those I set it up for. I'm thinking that at
least one of them is on holidays, so it may be some time but trust me, I am
just as eager as all of you to have this in place for 9.2.
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Re: [expert] kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk xconfig - fixed
On Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 05:24:14PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
Nevermind,
I ran an strace on make xconfig and it pointed me to the problem entry in
drivers/net/Config.in
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 05:06 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
I lost the email that mentioned how to get 2.4.21-0.18 to build (fails at
xconfig). What file needs to be edited to fix this?
Good grief. Why did you run an strace? It told you about four lines up
from the i died message exactly what file and what line was the problem
one... =)
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Re: [expert] Parent vs Child
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 18:11, kiosk wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:27:29 +1200 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 15:51:18 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 14:57, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 14:45:24 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 13:37, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 01 Jul 2003 12:52:33 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works as expected.. the parent automatically dies and the child continues it's run... Problem is when I put a similar case into an RPM and it runs it. It hangs. RPM will not continue until child runs it's course. And all the time that rpm #1 is open I can't start installing rpm #2 (the rpm database does not multi-task.) g. Although rpm uses bash shell scripts it sure doesn't use them correctly. Sorry, I don't follow all the threads... From what you say here, I think what you are up against is DB locking... and that won't be solved with multiple threads unless the DB allows it, which I doubt. Kinda sounds like the rpm DB is Linux' registry in this respect... correct and if I can figure out how to make rpm start the auto install script ... then release it to continue on it's merry way I can cut installation time for my company by 40% Or at least the time required to find out if all rpms install correctly. (the rpm in question takes about 80% of the total install time just waiting for the script is spawns to run.) Not to disimilar to the situation where you install a new kernel. It runs a number of commands (such as install_kernel) that if there was a way to run them ... then let the rpm command finish while they continue on their own. The system would be able to begin installing the next rpm while the install_kernel command etc finished on it's own. You know the old theory ... you can do anything with software... we'll, I'm trying to prove just that. *grin* So you're gonna rip rpm apart and have it use separate DBs aligned with the package categories already defined by Mdk... Cool! :^) :^) Not quite I'm trying to find a way to make rpm -Uvh spawn off processes that allow the first rpm -Uvh to end, freeing up the rpmdb to accept a new rpm -Uvh. kinda like _ installation script for rpm1 running. / / rpm -Uvh rpm1.rpm (rpm complets) _ installation script rpm2 \ / \ / - rpm -Uvh rpm2.rpm (rpm completes) \ \ - rpm -Uvh rpm3.rpm instead of the more linear process it is now. I don't want to get into rpm itself... but rather figure out how to spawn independent processes rather than dependent ones. Right now if in the rpm I put %postin nohup /usr/local/bin/autoinstallscript1 RPM itself will wait no matter what for that command string to finish. I don't want it to wait. I want it to do anything else it has to do, finish and not care what happens to the above command string. I can do this from a command line ... but for reasons beyond my ken when bash commands are used in rpm they act differently. On your point.. yes ... I agree that rpm could more affectively handle the database. There is no reason why it should lock the db after it figures out if all dependencies are met unless it's actively writing to the db. Data can be gathered and written asynchronously as easily as it could be done synchronously so why not... but that's another battle for another day. James Wouldn't you run into trouble with databases. There is a built in interlock which only allows one instance to have rw access to a record at a time. Others may have read but not read-write access. I'll explain it further with a joint bank account. Balance = $155.00 Scenario 1 12:55.02 - He accesses the account with his Eftpos card to pay for a bussiness lunch of $130.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares the transaction. 12:55.04 - She is at the 'ladies club' and also tries to pay for lunch at $125.00 - Eftpos grabs the balance of $155.00 and prepares teh transaction. 12:55.06 - His transaction completes and the balance is ammended. Now there is $25.00 in the account. 12:55.08 - Her transaction completes and the balance is ammended. $155.00 - $125.00 = $25.00 gets written back to the account as the balance overwriting the previous transaction and the bank is out of pocket. He gets
Re: [expert] Interview: Gaël Duval on finances
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:48, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 12:32:07PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: MozillaQuest Magazine: Anything else within that which you call the business side? Gal Duval: Improving the Club, improving MandrakeStore: these things also help us to make more business everyday. Now the question. Any chance this will include a way to submit bugs for the release version! (and no I won't hold my breath waiting.) Without holding your breath, or my own, I've setup a Proof of Concept for release bug tracking using Anthill and, to my utter annoyance, there has been very little response from those I set it up for. I'm thinking that at least one of them is on holidays, so it may be some time but trust me, I am just as eager as all of you to have this in place for 9.2. Vincent first let me apologize ... then let me ask where it is. (I apparently missed that mail sorry.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
