Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezesroutinely

2003-07-07 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 18:01, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 07:46, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote:
  I have now been running Mandrake 9.1 with the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
  for about 3 weeks.  At this point it is starting to be annoying that
  this kernel locks up more often than even Micro$oft Windoze.
  
  The lock up will happen anything from 5 minutes to 10 hours of boot.
  It must be the kernel locking up since there is no response to the
  SysRq+Alt+... keys.
  
  This happens routinely, but irregular, so I have no idea how to track
  it.  I tried maximizing the information to syslog by choosing
  
*.*   /var/log/syslog
  
  in /etc/syslog.conf.  A typical entry looks like this:
  
  Jul  6 14:42:18 pan spamd[5914]: identified spam (9.3/5.0) for turtle:501 in 
  0.4 seconds, 3321 bytes. 
  Jul  6 14:45:00 pan CROND[5928]: (turtle) CMD (/usr/sbin/anacron -t 
  $HOME/bin/shell/cron/anacrontab) 
  Jul  6 14:45:00 pan anacron[5929]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2003-07-06
  Jul  6 14:45:00 pan anacron[5929]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
  Jul  6 14:47:12 pan syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
  Jul  6 14:47:12 pan /etc/hotplug/net.agent: invoke ifplugd eth1
  Jul  6 14:47:12 pan ifplugd[1526]: Using interface eth1/00:02:2D:40:D0:92
  Jul  6 14:47:12 pan ifplugd[1526]: ETHTOOL_GLINK failed: Operation not 
  supported
  
  which means that I have booted around 14:46:45.  Thus there does not
  appear to be any programs running just before the lock up.
  
  So at this point I would like suggestions:
  - how can I get more debug information from the kernel
  - should I change to a different kernel, e.g., vanilla 2.4.21.  Or
should I consider one of the patched ones.
  
  Thanks
  
  /Peter
 
 Couple of questions to get the ball rolling.  One Have you run memtest
 on your RAM?  I've had problems like this before and what the cause was,
 was a bad ramchip but high enough up that normal operation didn't see it
 but when it came to a higher ram usage (like say logrotate) it would
 lock the box tighter than a republicans hand around someone else's
 penny.  This would be my first suspect.  Second.  Did it do this under
 the 13mdk version of the kernel (the one that comes with 9.1) Third what
 version of the kernel do you use.  SMP Enterprise etc. 
 
 James
 

Let me help a little by rolling the ball further down the sidewalk.  He
should go to 

http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

And download the linux version of Prime95.  Then run the stress test.
This will test the cpu very extensively while using all available ram. 
If it passes Prime95 overnight then he's got a good machine.  If it
fails then he's got hardware problems somewhere.

HTH,

LX

P.S.  And it's a Democrat's hand around someone elses penny (aka
taxes).  :D  The Reps have the vise grip on their own pennies.


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[expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Sevatio
I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has 
 supermount problems like LM9.0 had.

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread KevinO
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charlie wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 10:56 pm, Tom Brinkman had this to contribute :-

 Could a few of y'all with Lite-On's post the results of
'cdrecord --checkdrive dev=0,0,0'   Just the ID/Rev, and the last
several lines are relevant.

Here is the output from a couple of the Yamaha's here. Interesting...

Cdrecord 1.11a31 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
scsidev: '0,2,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 2 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW2100E'
Revision   : '1.0J'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R

Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW3200E'
Revision   : '1.0d'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE AUDIOMASTER FORCESPEED
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Remember.  The vendor can report the correct write modes all he wants;
but there is also the small matter of correct EFM encoding.  That means
actually testing the drive to see if the drive can reproduce exotic
conditions like weak sectors.  That in turn means that somebody needs to
have actually tried to produce backup copies of exotic cd's in an
attempt to create true 1 to 1 copies.and then reported their
results.  Like the results at the CloneCD hardware database, for
instance.

For an idea of what true quality drives are capable of and what they are
up against, please check out the following:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20021213/lg-13.html

Not having perfect EFM encoding is the same thing as not having the
correct raw hardware modes at all.  For this info we need somebody's
test results.


On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 03:25, KevinO wrote:
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 charlie wrote:
  On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 10:56 pm, Tom Brinkman had this to contribute :-
 
  Could a few of y'all with Lite-On's post the results of
 'cdrecord --checkdrive dev=0,0,0'   Just the ID/Rev, and the last
 several lines are relevant.
 
 Here is the output from a couple of the Yamaha's here. Interesting...
 
 Cdrecord 1.11a31 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
 scsidev: '0,2,0'
 scsibus: 0 target: 2 lun: 0
 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
 Device type: Removable CD-ROM
 Version: 2
 Response Format: 2
 Capabilities   : SYNC
 Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
 Identifikation : 'CRW2100E'
 Revision   : '1.0J'
 Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
 Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
 Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
 Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
 
 Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
 scsidev: '0,0,0'
 scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
 Device type: Removable CD-ROM
 Version: 2
 Response Format: 2
 Capabilities   : SYNC
 Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
 Identifikation : 'CRW3200E'
 Revision   : '1.0d'
 Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
 Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
 Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE AUDIOMASTER FORCESPEED
 Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
 
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Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.

2003-07-07 Thread R N dev
once, i had the same problem, i don't know
if it is related but after having update the 
gpg (form mdk update) i haven't got it any more.

(i deleted ~/.gnupg directory and re-generated the
key)
Angelo

--- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok,
 
   Went to this page.  
 
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
 
 following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros
 file edited it as it
 outlined.  
 
 then I did 
 
 gpg --gen-key  filled in the blanks ... generated a
 key.
 
 now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean
 -ba somerpm.spec it
 asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I
 did during the key-gen
 phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed
 Anyone have a clue as to
 what I did wrong?
 
 James
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] kernel bug still not fixed

2003-07-07 Thread thomas
Viestissä Maanantai 7. Heinäkuuta 2003 05:53, Glenn Burkhardt kirjoitti:
 I've built a stock 2.4.21 kernel, and applied the patch

   SGI XFS snapshot-2.4.21-2003-06-23_01:45_UTC

 and I can run the debugger.  There are still a bunch of drivers to get
 straight, if I want to use it (which is why I prefer getting a kernel from
 Mandrake).

 This is 1.3 release.  There is no patch for the 1.2 release for the 2.4.21
 kernel; the only one is for the 2.4.19 kernel.

No it's not...
It's a 1.3 pre2 snapshot

 Which makes me wonder where the code in the current 9.1 releases came from.
 They all (including cooker linux-2.4.21-2mdk) have the version:

   snapshot 2.4.20-2003-01-14_00:43_UTC

 The official 1.2 release was made 2003/2/11.  So was this an early
 release of 1.2 or 1.3, and how was the patch made compatible with the
 2.4.21 kernel, since it was picked up a month before XFS 1.2 was released,

Back in January the above snapshot was stated to become 1.2 Release
I also verifyed it then when 1.2 got Released, and the code was the same..

 which is, at least now, only available for the 2.4.19 kernel.


You can still find the snapshots for 2.4.20 and a lot of other kernels at:
ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/patches

If IRC the 2.4.19 XFS 1.2 patches applies cleanly onto 2.4.20,
so there is no need to keep duplicates...
or maybe SGI knows of this promblem with 2.4.20, and therefore
skipped the 1.2 Release for 2.4.20...
And with 1.3 around the corner... who cares about the old stuff... ;-)

 It would at least be sporting if Mandrake would post a note on the Errata
 page that 9.1 shouldn't use XFS if the system is to be used for
 development. Apparently it's only the root partition that matters.


I'm in the process of reinstalling both 9.1 and Cooker on my system,
this time with everything on XFS, so I'll will track down thwe bug if/when it
appears for me...

 Also, there's no mention of problems with 'gdb' on any of the XFS mailing
 lists or change logs, so my guess is that a patch for an older version of
 the kernel was force fitted to the 2.4.21 kernel, and this was an edge that
 got shaved off.

well actually MDK 9.1 does not have a full 2.4.21 kernel (since it was 
released 2003-06-13), only a 2.4.21pre based + patches from some 
of the rc's + a lot of MDK addons...

One thing is for sure (unless SGI drags their feets...) for the 
upcoming MDK 9.2 there will be a new shiny XFS 1.3 added AFAIK...

Regards

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[expert] ntp problems

2003-07-07 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi 

I have an NTP setup for my home network that has always worked fine.
I have a Stratum 3 server on FreeBSD to which all clients in my network
sync.

Yesterday I discovered that the time on my Mandrake 9.1 was 5 minutes
off to the server.
yet ntptrace reported my desktop still synchronized (stratum 4).

If I shut down ntpd on the desktop, run ntpdate and restart ntpd
everything is well again, till the next reboot...

Any suggestions?
How can ntptrace report a synchronised time when it is off?

Kind regards

Guy


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[expert] Kazaa Lite

2003-07-07 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Has anyone gotten Kazaa lite running on mandrake using wine?

Kazaa documents this on their website, but the install failed.

I' using the stock version of wine that came with Mandrake 9.1.

Thanks

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Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Adams
Grip as supplied (9.0 + 9.1) does ogg vorbis encoding without any addons. Xmms will 
play the .oggs happily. They are more environmentally friendly (read better license) 
than mp3. The oggs record at 44khz.

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:25:06 +0100
bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sorry no, i use lame from the plf notlame package
 
 bascule
 
 On Friday 04 Jul 2003 11:34 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:17, bascule wrote:
   have a look in /dev/and see what you do have and try:
   $grip --device=/dev/whatever
  
   bascule
 
  Thanks bascule that got it sorted, just to really confuse things
  /dev/cdrom =/mnt/cdrom3
 
  Do you know which files I need to load to use mp3encode, drawn a blank
  with rpmdrake, so it must be part of another package, which one ??
 
  thanks
  richard
 
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Resolved ! : [expert] fonts in gimp

2003-07-07 Thread KevinO
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It has been a while since I asked about this but I wanted to pass this along
in case it helps or enlightens anyone.

I finally got the font (flubber) to work. It is a hack, and I still don't
understand why some of the fonts won't work the way Mandrake installs them,
but I don't have the time nor the patience to make a major study of this. I
expect this to work with many of the other 'broken fonts' that are found in
/usr/share/fonts/ .

Here is how I made the font work. (I basically just installed it into a 'more
standard ?' location)

1) Copy the font into a new location:

   # cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
   # cp /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/flubber.ttf .

2) Create a line in fonts.scale for the font, using an editor.

   # vi fonts.scale

My line looks like this (not totally correct but close enough):

flubber.ttf -bh-Flubber-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

The fonts.scale file is set read-only so you will have to chmod the file or
override the status (ie: w! in vi)

3) Issued the following commands to update and restart the font server.

   # mkfontdir
   # xset fp rehash
   # service xfs restart

This has worked on both of the boxes I have tried this on. (Both Mdk 9.1) I
should probably remove the old entry/location but at least this is workable. I
stumbled upon this while I was installing a new font. Like I said, it is a
hack but it works for me and I hope this will help someone else to live with
the problem or perhaps find a better solution.

I am not going to install/upgrade all of the necessary pieces to build the
latest version of Gimp, just to fix a 'broken font' problem, but I do
appreciate that advice also.

I don't understand why we have fonts in two different places in the
filesystem(s)...

YMMV, KevinO

Jack Coates wrote:
 I ran into this several years ago, and there was an FAQ on the gimp.org
 site about it. Have you read and tried anything from the gimp.org FAQ?

Yes
 On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 02:55, KevinO wrote:

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Stephlub wrote:

I encountered this problem, I didn't solve it.
suspect to be the font import module of Gimp which isn't able to pick some
sorts of TTF.
while it was not important for me, I made with Ooo the gifs I used with Gimp


Bummer. I asked a friend of mine to check his 9.1 box and he has the same
thing. I wonder if these fonts (flubber, for instance) work for anyone under
9.1...

Toggling anti-aliasing or dynamic fonts makes no difference.

Is this a change that was made to the gimp code or am I experiencing another
'distribution tweak?'.




We have two Mandrake 9.1 boxes here and they both appear to have the same
problem. A lot of the fonts (flubber, for instance) appear in the list of
fonts for gimp but when you try to select them you get a message font is

not


available.

The fonts in question are installed on both machines. The fonts can be

used in


open-office-writer and kwrite, on either machine.

The paths to the fonts are listed in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config.

xlsfonts lists the fonts in question.

I am starting to suspect some kind of a 'disconnect' between xfs and gimp.

If


I sit at one of our other boxes and open an ssh session to either of the

9.1


boxes, the fonts work fine.

Any ideas?

TIA

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Re: [expert] strange behaviour :grip

2003-07-07 Thread KevinO
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Michael Adams wrote:
 Grip as supplied (9.0 + 9.1) does ogg vorbis encoding without any addons.
 Xmms will play the .oggs happily. They are more environmentally friendly
 (read better license) than mp3.

Ogg's are better but I can't put 100 or so on a CD and play them in my DVD
player (or a portable). I have to play them on a computer, and that is a bummer.

Anyone know of any stand-alone DVD players or portables that play ogg that
have actually shown up on the market yet? (vaporware doesn't count)

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Re: [expert] Kazaa Lite

2003-07-07 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 10:44 schrieb Guy Van Sanden:
 Has anyone gotten Kazaa lite running on mandrake using wine?

 Kazaa documents this on their website, but the install failed.

 I' using the stock version of wine that came with Mandrake 9.1.

 Thanks

 Guy

Hi !

I hope this will help you:

http://frankscorner.org/kazaa_lite_2_0.html

FranksCorner/FranksWorld is for me the nomber one ressource what belongs to 
wine.

HTH

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Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezes routinely

2003-07-07 Thread Peter Møller Neergaard
Thanks for suggestions for various stress tests---I will try them
tonight.

To answer James Sparenberg's question: I have tried both the 0.13mdk
and the 0.18mdk.  I usually use NeTraverse' win4lin enabled kernel,
but have reverted to the standard Mandrake kernels to see if this is
the problem.  I do not use the SMP kernels.

I would be slightly surprised if it was a hardware problem, given that
I have run Mandrake 9.0 for 3--4 months and 8.1 for about a year
without problems of this sort.  For the same reason, X is not too
likely to be the culprit as I did not upgrade my low-level video
driver when upgrading to 9.1 (I'm using a locally compiled version of
Nvidia's proprietary driver).

I'll keep you posted on results.

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread charlie
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :-
 I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has
   supermount problems like LM9.0 had.

It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts, 
others have none apparently when reading this list.

Charlie

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Maanantai 7. Heinäkuuta 2003 09:27, Sevatio kirjoitti:
 I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has
   supermount problems like LM9.0 had.

 Thanks,
 Sevatio


I think you would be interested in this mail posted on the Cooker list:
--- cut ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Some of you might be interested in this 9.1 kernel update (based on 
 0.18mdk):
 
 - better supermount (supermount-ng.sourceforge.net)
 - fix for ldm_validate_partition and ppa cable warning messages
 - alsa emu10k1 oops fix
 - newer pci ids
 - bus_ide_piix and bus_ide_nvidia_udma100(nforce) fixes
 - aic7xxx_20030502
 - driver_sonypi_1.19
 - firewire update to 925
 - vesafb ram fix
 - fix a panic of ide-scsi
 - add acls on xfs filesystems
 - patch for devfs deadlock
 - unlock grsecurity settings
 
 Special thanks to Andrey Borzenkov and Thomas Backlund for many of the 
 patches.
 
 The kernel was tested by club members for some weeks now, I have had no 
 complaints.
 Its on the mirrors in Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.1/i586/
 
 To make it on-topic again:
 I would hope to have supermount-ng and ACLs in 9.2 kernel as well
 
 d.
--- cut ---

I'm running it myself with no problems what so ever...


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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread arocho
For my installation the install software wrote the supermount fstab entries 
incorrectly.  It does not seem to be quite fool proof yet.  I have been using it since 
it was first available in the Mandrake distribution and it has yet to deliver on the 
promises.  Perhaps it is a matter of the three different boxes I have tried it on.


On Sunday, July 06, 2003 at 11:27:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has 
   supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
 Thanks,
 Sevatio
 
 
 
 



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Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.

2003-07-07 Thread Charles A Edwards
On 06 Jul 2003 21:38:35 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec
 it asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the
 key-gen phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed.


Unfortunately the Mdk rpm-how-to is not completly up-to-date 

For gpg your rpmmarcos should read
%_gpg_name  your_name (security) your_email


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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 Jul 2003 11:53 am, arocho wrote:
 For my installation the install software wrote the supermount fstab
 entries incorrectly.  It does not seem to be quite fool proof yet. 
 I have been using it since it was first available in the Mandrake
 distribution and it has yet to deliver on the promises.  Perhaps it
 is a matter of the three different boxes I have tried it on.

 On Sunday, July 06, 2003 at 11:27:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1
  still has supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
  Thanks,
  Sevatio

No-one seems to know why some boxes simply can't use it, while others 
are fine.  It's run without problems on this box under both 9.0 and 
9.1.

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
On Monday 07 July 2003 02:27 am, Sevatio wrote:
 I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has
   supermount problems like LM9.0 had.

 Thanks,
 Sevatio

It works without problems for me on 9.1.

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:27, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Sunday 06 July 2003 04:52 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 
  It's not so much the difference between the atapi and scsi drives,
  it's the data bus. Copying a CD on the fly is a much safer and faster
  thing using scsi.
 
  wobo
 
 Agreed. Less system resource/cpu time, responsiveness, etc, etc.
 
 Its more like set it and forget it (to paraphrase a really annoying 
 infocommercial!) :-)

I can always tell a student/advocate of ESR when I see one. ;D

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with
supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others).  Supermount
causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, the
kde cdburner app.  It is a nice looking app but I
cannot get it to work with my system setup with
supermount, though I have no problems with X-CDroast
or eroaster w/supermount.  

So, I suppose it depends on your system and what you
wish to do.  The fstab entries required/created by k3b
are incompatible with supermount (unless someone can
set me right on this).

praedor 


--- charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to
 contribute :-
  I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just
 wondering if LM9.1 still has
supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
 It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble
 with all supermounts, 
 others have none apparently when reading this list.
 
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Mark
Have installed Mandrake 9.1 on many PCs, and and supermount is excellent
in Mandrake 9.1..  9.0 was a disaster..

Cheers
Mark 


On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 16:27, Sevatio wrote:
 I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has 
   supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Dave Sherman
Praedor Tempus wrote:
I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with
supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others).  Supermount
causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, the
kde cdburner app.  It is a nice looking app but I
cannot get it to work with my system setup with
supermount, though I have no problems with X-CDroast
or eroaster w/supermount.  

So, I suppose it depends on your system and what you
wish to do.  The fstab entries required/created by k3b
are incompatible with supermount (unless someone can
set me right on this).
Praedor,

I may be the exception to the rule, but K3b and supermount work just 
fine on my Mdk 9.1 laptop. I've got separate mount points for cdrom and 
cdrecorder, and it seems to work fine that way. However, if I remember 
correctly, I *did* need to setuid root on the cdrecord and cdrdao 
programs. They are setuid in any case. This is obviously a security 
risk, but my laptop is mostly single-user (my wife occasionally plays 
Frozen Bubble on it).

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Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezes routinely

2003-07-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday July 7 2003 04:59 am, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote:
 Thanks for suggestions for various stress tests---I will try them
 tonight.
 To answer James Sparenberg's question: I have tried both the
 0.13mdk and the 0.18mdk.  I usually use NeTraverse' win4lin
 enabled kernel, but have reverted to the standard Mandrake
 kernels to see if this is the problem.  I do not use the SMP
 kernels.

 I would be slightly surprised if it was a hardware problem, given
 that I have run Mandrake 9.0 for 3--4 months and 8.1 for about a
 year without problems of this sort.  For the same reason, X is
 not too likely to be the culprit as I did not upgrade my
 low-level video driver when upgrading to 9.1 (I'm using a locally
 compiled version of Nvidia's proprietary driver).

Probly not hardware, but hardware still has to be eliminated as 
a first step. I'd suggest one pass of memtest86's tests (easy), 
then 'mprime -m', choose #17, the torture test (harder). Let it run 
for an hour. If you pass those tests, then cpuburn's 'burnP6' 
(Intel), or 'burnK6' (AMD), (extreme test). Let it run for 20 
minutes while keeping an eye on cpu temp. There's no output, but 
abort with 'Crtl+C if temp goes too high. If it does, you need 
better cooling and over heating could well be your freeze problem.  
ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime234.tar.gzcpuburn and memtest86 
are on your CD's or available from Mandrake mirrors.

   Next step if your hardware passes uninstall nvidia and use 
Xfree's 'nv' driver. You'll also need to replace the nvidia tainted 
kernel. Uninstall any other closed source proprietary unknown apps 
or drivers. At least till you this problem sorted out. 
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 Jul 2003 4:27 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 I just thought it might be a good idea
 to investigate the cheap ones like Lite-On. Few things I need to
 ask, are the Lite-On's made by Lite-On, or are they rebadged from
 other manufacturers? Can the firmware be flashed from DOS, and are
 updates available (or have been)?  I went to their site to look for
 myself, but got an 'under construction' message.

You should do a bit of googling, I think, Tom.  I know of people who 
are very happy with Lite-On drives, but I also know that my favourite 
parts supplier are very uncomfortable with some hardware combinations 
that include Lite-On.  As far as I know, it mainly concerns an 
incompatibility with some cd/dvd drives.

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday July 6 2003 11:37 am, dfox wrote:
 Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] CDRW

 OK, thanks Ed, same mode supports as my old drive. I don't
  want burnfree, but it can be disabled. I'm thinkin this old
  drive has got to be replaced sooner or later ;)

 Is yours scsi? It might be worth keeping. but I think tese days
 that atapi is getting better and better. otoh, the newer drives
 can burn really really faxt :).

 It's an IDE burner, not SCSI. I'm not interested in burnin at 
over 8x. Most of the time I burn at 4x.  Other than the quality 
drives (Plextor and Yamaha), I just thought it might be a good idea 
to investigate the cheap ones like Lite-On. Few things I need to 
ask, are the Lite-On's made by Lite-On, or are they rebadged from 
other manufacturers? Can the firmware be flashed from DOS, and are 
updates available (or have been)?  I went to their site to look for 
myself, but got an 'under construction' message.
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday July 7 2003 02:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 Remember.  The vendor can report the correct write modes all he
 wants; but there is also the small matter of correct EFM
 encoding.  That means actually testing the drive to see if the
 drive can reproduce exotic conditions like weak sectors.  That in
 turn means that somebody needs to have actually tried to produce
 backup copies of exotic cd's in an attempt to create true 1 to 1
 copies.and then reported their results.  Like the results at
 the CloneCD hardware database, for instance.

 For an idea of what true quality drives are capable of and what
 they are up against, please check out the following:

 http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20021213/lg-13.html

 Not having perfect EFM encoding is the same thing as not having
 the correct raw hardware modes at all.  For this info we need
 somebody's test results.

   I agree with your basic premise Lyvim. Years ago I used CloneCD's 
data base and comments to choose Plextor, the darling of burners at 
the time. Keep in mind tho that CloneCD's Windoze software, and 
THG's review/test is also Winblows based. Linux/cdrecord/cdrdao/
mkisofs results may or may not be different. (probly better ;)

Still ya gotta start somewhere ;) I'm mostly curious because I 
hear a lot of good reports on Lite-On's, even THG gave 'em a thumbs 
up. I'm thinking a good cheap burner might be a better alternative 
than keepin my old cd-rw and even older CDrom. Just use the burner 
for everything in my next system. I'm not a fan of direct CD to CDr 
copying anyhow, and burners are better readers than cdrom's ;)
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Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezesroutinely

2003-07-07 Thread Mark Belanger
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:46:09 +0100
Peter Møller Neergaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have now been running Mandrake 9.1 with the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
 for about 3 weeks.  At this point it is starting to be annoying that
 this kernel locks up more often than even Micro$oft Windoze.
 
 The lock up will happen anything from 5 minutes to 10 hours of boot.
 It must be the kernel locking up since there is no response to the
 SysRq+Alt+... keys.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the kernel.  My
box runs for weeks on end with no problem.  If I was to
guess, I'd say X or hardware was involved.

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[expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
three times now without error.  I have also generated
the initrd and run lilo with success post build.  Thus
far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
-0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as -0.13mdkcustom). 
All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then, after
about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
will continue forever (linux default bootup of
course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
   At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build.  My
system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333 mobo. 
Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save the
kernel, of course.
   Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic out
of this?
praedor

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
Hmpf.  My supermount setup has both my CDROM and CDRW
setup as scsi-ide.  If I try k3b, it fails to see
them.  All the other cdburner apps work fine with
this.

praedor

--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with
  supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others).  Supermount
  causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b,
 the
  kde cdburner app.  It is a nice looking app but I
  cannot get it to work with my system setup with
  supermount, though I have no problems with
 X-CDroast
  or eroaster w/supermount.  
  
  So, I suppose it depends on your system and what
 you
  wish to do.  The fstab entries required/created by
 k3b
  are incompatible with supermount (unless someone
 can
  set me right on this).
 
 Praedor,
 
 I may be the exception to the rule, but K3b and
 supermount work just 
 fine on my Mdk 9.1 laptop. I've got separate mount
 points for cdrom and 
 cdrecorder, and it seems to work fine that way.
 However, if I remember 
 correctly, I *did* need to setuid root on the
 cdrecord and cdrdao 
 programs. They are setuid in any case. This is
 obviously a security 
 risk, but my laptop is mostly single-user (my wife
 occasionally plays 
 Frozen Bubble on it).
 
 -- 
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 07 July 2003 11:51 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:

 copying anyhow, and burners are better readers than cdrom's ;)

I can testify to that - my younger brother made some 800 meg CDs one time for 
me...only thing I had  on 3 comps that would read'em was my good 'ole Plextor 
CDRW. :-)

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Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread Jack Coates
are you trying to use a frame buffer? vga=normal?

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:54, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
 three times now without error.  I have also generated
 the initrd and run lilo with success post build.  Thus
 far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
 however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
 -0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
 2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as -0.13mdkcustom). 
 All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
 errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then, after
 about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
 will continue forever (linux default bootup of
 course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
 until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build.  My
 system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333 mobo. 
 Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save the
 kernel, of course.
Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
 ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic out
 of this?
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 07 July 2003 06:18 am, charlie wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :-

  I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has
supermount problems like LM9.0 had.

 It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts,
 others have none apparently when reading this list.

 Charlie

 grin Charlie, you're not alone - I usually try supermount with each new 
distro release, but end up disabling it in the end. :-)

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Dave Sherman
Praedor Tempus wrote:
Hmpf.  My supermount setup has both my CDROM and CDRW
setup as scsi-ide.  If I try k3b, it fails to see
them.  All the other cdburner apps work fine with
this.
praedor
In fstab, my cdrom mount point is setup for supermount, but my 
cdrecorder mount point is *not* setup for supermount -- K3b mounts it on 
demand, and presumably unmounts the cdrom mount point at the same time, 
so there are no conflicts.

If *both* mount points are setup for supermount, but they use the same 
device, wouldn't this be rather ... counterproductive?

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday July 7 2003 12:15 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Monday 07 July 2003 11:51 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
  copying anyhow, and burners are better readers than cdrom's ;)

 I can testify to that - my younger brother made some 800 meg CDs
 one time for me...only thing I had  on 3 comps that would read'em
 was my good 'ole Plextor CDRW. :-)

 I can't find any 800mb CDr's in the stores ;(  Where do y'all 
get 'em?  USEnet's got some 715 to 775 movies. I can use mencoder 
to reduce their size to fit on 700mb CDr's, but at a loss of a 
little video quality.
 http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/encoding.html#rescaling
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I had thought that allowing k3b to install new lines
into fstab, redundant entries for my /dev/cdrom and
/dev/cdrom2, would cause problems.  I thought that
these k3b-added lines needed to be in replacement for
the supermount entries.  Having semi-redundant lines
in fstab with and without supermount doesn't cause any
problems?  

praedor

--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  Hmpf.  My supermount setup has both my CDROM and
 CDRW
  setup as scsi-ide.  If I try k3b, it fails to see
  them.  All the other cdburner apps work fine with
  this.
  
  praedor
 
 In fstab, my cdrom mount point is setup for
 supermount, but my 
 cdrecorder mount point is *not* setup for supermount
 -- K3b mounts it on 
 demand, and presumably unmounts the cdrom mount
 point at the same time, 
 so there are no conflicts.
 
 If *both* mount points are setup for supermount, but
 they use the same 
 device, wouldn't this be rather ...
 counterproductive?
 
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Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 07 July 2003 12:38 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Ok,

   Went to this page.

 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

 following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros file edited it as it
 outlined.

 then I did

 gpg --gen-key  filled in the blanks ... generated a key.

 now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec it
 asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the key-gen
 phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed Anyone have a clue as to
 what I did wrong?

Did you create a key as user but build as root?
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 07 July 2003 02:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

  I can't find any 800mb CDr's in the stores ;(  Where do y'all
 get 'em?  USEnet's got some 715 to 775 movies. I can use mencoder
 to reduce their size to fit on 700mb CDr's, but at a loss of a
 little video quality.
  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/encoding.html#rescaling

Tom, I don't even have those CDs anymore - they were 4 CD's of the Lord Of 
The Rings that he ripped. I eventually bought the store version and threw 
them away. TBH, since I've thrown them away, I can't remember if they were 
true 800 meg CDs or 700 meggers jam-packed full. I know he (my brother) 
said they had 800 megs each on them. I'll ask him the next time I see him. 

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Re: [expert] Kazaa Lite

2003-07-07 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Thanks Steffen

It didn't work however...
I followed the instuctions to the letter, but it keeps complaining about
not being able to move exe files...  Yet the permissions are correct.
It only copies non-exe files???

Guy

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 11:27, Steffen Barszus wrote:
 Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 10:44 schrieb Guy Van Sanden:
  Has anyone gotten Kazaa lite running on mandrake using wine?
 
  Kazaa documents this on their website, but the install failed.
 
  I' using the stock version of wine that came with Mandrake 9.1.
 
  Thanks
 
  Guy
 
 Hi !
 
 I hope this will help you:
 
 http://frankscorner.org/kazaa_lite_2_0.html
 
 FranksCorner/FranksWorld is for me the nomber one ressource what belongs to 
 wine.
 
 HTH
 
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Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
My lilo entry have vga=788.  I don't recall the
failsafe entry (whatever default the system makes it
as during install).  I haven't tried starting throught
the no-framebuffer entry as yet.  I could try that
this evening.

Is there a framebuffer issue with the 0.18 kernel?

praedor

--- Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 are you trying to use a frame buffer? vga=normal?
 
 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:54, Praedor Tempus wrote:
  I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk
 kernel
  three times now without error.  I have also
 generated
  the initrd and run lilo with success post build. 
 Thus
  far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
  however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
  -0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
  2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as
 -0.13mdkcustom). 
  All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
  errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then,
 after
  about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
  will continue forever (linux default bootup of
  course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
 At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
  until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build. 
 My
  system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333
 mobo. 
  Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save
 the
  kernel, of course.
 Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
  ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic
 out
  of this?
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Richard Bown
I'm running supermount with 3 cdroms, two burners , no problems with K3b
as long as you tell it to eject after burning.
But I must admit there is the occasional time when something crashed
that no matter what you try that damn drawer just wont open. Not even
starting one of the cd players and opening the draw from there.


I'd say supermount is in the stage between nearly stable and idiot proof


Richard
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 18:16, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Monday 07 July 2003 06:18 am, charlie wrote:
  On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :-
 
   I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has
 supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
  It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts,
  others have none apparently when reading this list.
 
  Charlie
 
  grin Charlie, you're not alone - I usually try supermount with each new 
 distro release, but end up disabling it in the end. :-)
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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 11:27, Tom Brinkman wrote:

  It's an IDE burner, not SCSI. I'm not interested in burnin at 
 over 8x. Most of the time I burn at 4x.  Other than the quality 
 drives (Plextor and Yamaha), I just thought it might be a good idea 
 to investigate the cheap ones like Lite-On.

Times have changed.  Plextor and Yamaha are no longer what they used to
be in the days before computer users became technically savvy about
cdrom technology.  Plextor for instance now has an abysmal record with
regard to EFM encoding. There are fully 20 drives tested in the
following URL, and only one of them has correct EFM encoding.  That
drive was released *this* year; go figure.  SEE:

http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/p.html#plextor

Yamaha is not really any better, in fact they are worse.  Out of 28
tested drive models, NONE of them has correct EFM encoding!!  SEE:

http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/y.html#yamaha

This is what happens when people are using word of mouth to buy drives
instead of performance oriented test results from real world
applications.  The vendors can rest on their laurels and push an
inferior product on an unsuspecting public for as long as they are
allowed.  Plextor has started reacting to the Liteon phenomenon as of
this year by finally putting out a drive that encodes completely right.

Now as long as you are doing elementary stuff, like burning ISO's from
the image, or copying non-copy-protected audio or software cd's, you'll
never know that the drive isn't all there.  In that case it's fine to
own an inferior burner.  It's only when you are doing college level
stuff like making backup copies of copy protected audio or software cd's
that you will really see the problems or attributes of a drive.  That's
why I keep posting these links; they represent information from test
results.  That's the starting point; the test results.

All clearly explains the Liteon phenomenon.  Why exactly are they so
popular?  Well, the answer is very simple.  Liteon drives, almost all of
them without exception, are fully capable of giving you true 1 to 1
copies of copy protected cd's.  Why?  Because they have BOTH the
hardware modes needed *and* correct EFM encoding.  Look at Liteon's
track record and you will see what I mean:

http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_cd/writers/l.html#liteon

Out of 12 drives tested, only three are questionable.  By test results,
not word of mouth.  This is exactly why Liteon drives are popular; quite
simply, they do the job that they are supposed to do under demanding
circumstances.  So the hacker guys that can get the jobs done under the
demanding circumstances already know everything I've posted here because
they are cdrw hackers; as such their opinions are respected and they are
the ones recommending the drives to others trying to do the same thing.
Other people like me, for instance. The push for all this recent
popularity is the fact that the Liteon drives get the job done after UPS
delivers them.


I personally chose Toshiba, because I feel that Tosh drives offer more
quality of hardware than the others, (for slightly more money) plus
having immaculate hardware specs.  This is all based on prior personal
experience.

Liteon succeeds mainly because young cdrw hackers can afford them (they
are cheap) and they almost always get the job done.

 Few things I need to ask, are the Lite-On's made by Lite-On, or are
  they rebadged from other manufacturers? 

Liteon is it's own manufacturer to the best of my knowledge.  There are
others relabeling the Liteon brand, like Buslink, and they sell them at
a lower price.  So if you see any Buslink brand burners in Best Buy or
elsewhere, jump on them and ask the guys there if it registers as a
Liteon model number in system information when it is installed.  A
relabeled Liteon drive will always display it's true Liteon model number
when installed in the system.

We bought a Buslink burner from Best Buy as a birthday present for a
hacker bud not too long ago, and I went to Liteon's firmware page,
downloaded their latest firmware, and flashed the drive (under DOS)
before I giftwrapped it and sent it on.

We paid 25 bucks for the drive after rebate.It was actually a relabeled
Liteon LTR-32123S.

 Can the firmware be flashed from DOS

Yep
 , and are updates available (or have been)?

Yep

   I went to their site to look for myself, but got an 'under construction'
  message.

Please check the following URL:

http://www.liteontc.com.tw/

HTH,

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Dave Sherman
Praedor Tempus wrote:
I had thought that allowing k3b to install new lines
into fstab, redundant entries for my /dev/cdrom and
/dev/cdrom2, would cause problems.  I thought that
these k3b-added lines needed to be in replacement for
the supermount entries.  Having semi-redundant lines
in fstab with and without supermount doesn't cause any
problems?  

praedor
No problems here. As long as they are not both mounted at the same time, 
it's not an issue. If both cdrom and cdrecorder were mounted at the same 
time, then there might be some file locking or other file access issues, 
but I am assuming that K3b is unmounting cdrom (which would have been 
automounted) before manually mounting cdrecorder.

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[expert] LM9.1/9.0: Huge number of errors for eth0 RX packets

2003-07-07 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

I am experiencing a lot of errors on RX packets on several boxes running
LM9.1 or LM9.0. They are all identical Dell 4100 workstations with the
same network cards using the tulip module.

note: using kernel from installation, no recompilation.

[ 20:42:52 ::root#wallaby ::~ ] ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:48:10:05:A2
  inet addr:192.168.0.100  Bcast:192.168.0.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:37765 errors:35690 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:12923 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:294951 (288.0 Kb)  TX bytes:110951 (108.3 Kb)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0xd000

I've tried to change the cables, get the switch out od the equation,
etc.. with no success.

Any idea what I could investigate? and How?

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread KevinO
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Thank you for the in-depth information. I never fool around with the more
esoteric uses so I have remained ignorant and blissful. I started using
Yamahas years ago when I got a SCSI one and just stuck with them. I have
suffered with some of the cheaper brands when my friends would get one and
they would barly be able to burn an normal ISO file properly under Linux, and
only after extensive tweaking.

My next drive will probably be a Toshiba or Lite-On. (My personal workstation
still has an older 16x LightSpeed)


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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
On Monday 07 July 2003 03:59 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
 I'm running supermount with 3 cdroms, two burners , no problems with K3b
 as long as you tell it to eject after burning.
 But I must admit there is the occasional time when something crashed
 that no matter what you try that damn drawer just wont open. Not even
 starting one of the cd players and opening the draw from there.

Isn't the problem here that the burner is accessing the device directly, and 
bypassing the file system?  This makes it incredibly hard for supermount to 
keep track of things.  The burner app really should unmount the device before 
using it, and re-mount it afterwards.


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[expert] HP printers on USB

2003-07-07 Thread Pierre Fortin

Just a heads up...

I have not fully analyzed this; but my HP 5550 (USB2.0) printers will not
work if connected to a USB/PCMCIA port.  My camera, external HDs, etc, all
work off the SIIG USB PCMCIA 4-port hub; but the printers will only work
if connected to the laptop's builtin USB1.1 port.

CUPS reports Unable to open USB device usb://hp/deskjet%205550: No such
device, even after redoing the printer setup via http://localhost:631

Just moving the cable from the PCMCIA to the builtin port allows queued
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[expert] Nokimichi cd changer

2003-07-07 Thread Mike Grello
Hi,

I have a Nokimichi MBR-7.4 7 disk cd changer.  Mandrake 9.0 knows it exists 
and recognizes the first two luns.  I have  mknod'd the remaining luns 
replicating permsissions and ownership and incrementing major number for each 
lun (11,00-11,06;  00 and 01 already existing) then linked devfs nodes to old 
type /dev entries (like the first 2 luns) it still only sees 2 luns.  Any 
suggestions?

I have an AHA-15x2 type host adapter.
thanks,
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[expert] Savage 4 video adapter and Xine

2003-07-07 Thread Mike Grello
My motherboard has an S3 savage4 video adapter and I thought I would save a 
few bucks and use it.  I have 32MB put aside for video memory.  The adapter, 
first of all, won't do 24 bits at 1280x1024 (should require about 8MB), it 
breaks up, so I have it set for 16 bits (probably no whoop, it's just 
inconsistent).  The big problem is that Xine freezes the entire machine when 
I start it up (I am thinking lack of video overlay capability on the 
adapter).  I am using the latest Xine, installed clean (not over the Xine 
that came with Mandrake).  Do I need to part with the cash, or is there a way 
around this?  I looked on the S3 web site but the driver there is from 2000, 
so I've got to believe it won't be an improvement, unless I am missing 
something.

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Re: [expert] CDRW

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 06:28, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:27, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Sunday 06 July 2003 04:52 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  
   It's not so much the difference between the atapi and scsi drives,
   it's the data bus. Copying a CD on the fly is a much safer and faster
   thing using scsi.
  
   wobo
  
  Agreed. Less system resource/cpu time, responsiveness, etc, etc.
  
  Its more like set it and forget it (to paraphrase a really annoying 
  infocommercial!) :-)
 
 I can always tell a student/advocate of ESR when I see one. ;D
 
 --LX
 
 P.S.  Cause ESR is a religious SCSI devotee.g

When building the Ultimate Linux Box for Linux Journal a year ago it's
the only point Rick Moen and ESR agreed on violently.. :)

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Re: [expert] Another Windoze feature in 9.1: kernel freezesroutinely

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 02:59, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote:
 Thanks for suggestions for various stress tests---I will try them
 tonight.
 
 To answer James Sparenberg's question: I have tried both the 0.13mdk
 and the 0.18mdk.  I usually use NeTraverse' win4lin enabled kernel,
 but have reverted to the standard Mandrake kernels to see if this is
 the problem.  I do not use the SMP kernels.
 
 I would be slightly surprised if it was a hardware problem, given that
 I have run Mandrake 9.0 for 3--4 months and 8.1 for about a year
 without problems of this sort.  For the same reason, X is not too
 likely to be the culprit as I did not upgrade my low-level video
 driver when upgrading to 9.1 (I'm using a locally compiled version of
 Nvidia's proprietary driver).
 
 I'll keep you posted on results.
 
 /Peter

Peter,
   Not to doubt what you say... I don't, but I do have a collection of
ram sticks that past the 1 year guarantee ... crapped out on me.  In
just the manor I stated.  Since Linux is stricter than Windwos on this
... I've sent them to windwos boxes running at a lower ram bus speed. 
(133 rated running at 100)  There they work ok for e-mail readers.  

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Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 04:33, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On 06 Jul 2003 21:38:35 -0700
 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec
  it asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the
  key-gen phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed.
 
 
 Unfortunately the Mdk rpm-how-to is not completly up-to-date 
 
 For gpg your rpmmarcos should read
 %_gpg_name  your_name (security) your_email
 
 
 Charles

Charles I got part of this from another source.  But one question... is
the (security) a constant I should insert or do I do that literally?

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Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:54, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
 three times now without error.  I have also generated
 the initrd and run lilo with success post build.  Thus
 far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
 however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
 -0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
 2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as -0.13mdkcustom). 
 All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
 errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then, after
 about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
 will continue forever (linux default bootup of
 course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
 until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build.  My
 system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333 mobo. 
 Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save the
 kernel, of course.
Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
 ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic out
 of this?

Praedor.. for whatever reason 18 doesn't like one of the 7 boxes I have
MDK on (here work and otherwise)  Y I don't know... but with my laptop..
+ 18mdk = no sound.  (I haven't done a rebuild).  However 16mm flies on
this box.  (I really mean flies my 500mhz laptop feels like my 1ghz
desktop on 18mdk)  Try it.. I've built a new one with this kernel (added
the ck2 patch) and it went in sweet as could be.  It even is without the
bug that the other MDK kernels have concerning overwriting vmlinuz. 

James
 
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Re: [expert] Kazaa Lite

2003-07-07 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
Hi,

This is a little guide I published on:

First of all, mdk's 9.1 wine rpm's ARE BROKEN. Any installer fails to install, 
with this error: 
 
file_set_error: No such file or directory 
fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosError no mapping for 0001869f 

I had this problem in three different machines, IMHO, the problem are the 
rpm's.
 
I tried wine20030508 update from mandrake but is broken too. This time kazaa 
install with an error at the end, but when trying to run it it shows other 
errors I don't remember now. 
 
Here are the steps I followed to get Kazaa Lite 2.1 running:

0) Uninstall your current wine. 
 
1) Download wine from http://wine.dataparty.no/ and install it. I have 
installed wine20030623-opengl. 
 
2) Get the system reg found in: 
http://www.franksworld.net/files/wineregistry.tgz 
 and copy it to your .wine dir. 
 
3) Install klitekpp210b3e.exe 
 
4) Get these dll's and copy them to your system32 dir in your fake windows 
installation: commctrl.dll, shdoclc.dll, shdocvw.dll, 
shlwapi.dll,comdlg32.dll,ole32.dll, oleaut32.dll and ntdll.dll 
 
5) Add these lines to your config file: 
[AppDefaults\\KazaaLite.kpp\\DllOverrides] 
* = builtin, native, so 
commctrl = native 
shdoclc = native 
shdocvw = native 
shlwapi = native 
comdlg32 = native 
ole32 = native 
oleaut32 = native 
ntdll = native 

Some people had to add urlmon.dll to that list.

NOTE: ole32, oleaut32 AND ntdll are extra dll's I found to be need with newer 
wine versions. Without these ones kazaa started but when I pushed any button 
it freezed. Also note that I didn't had to rename KazaaLite.kpp to Kazaa.exe 
nor to copy the TopSearch.dll, kzscan.dll and bdcore.dll libraries. 
 
6) go to the kazaa's lite installation directoy and run it with wine kpp.exe 
 
7) Enjoy :-) 
 


On Monday 07 July 2003 08:44 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 Has anyone gotten Kazaa lite running on mandrake using wine?

 Kazaa documents this on their website, but the install failed.

 I' using the stock version of wine that came with Mandrake 9.1.

 Thanks

 Guy

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Re: [expert] HP printers on USB

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 16:13, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 Just a heads up...
 
 I have not fully analyzed this; but my HP 5550 (USB2.0) printers will not
 work if connected to a USB/PCMCIA port.  My camera, external HDs, etc, all
 work off the SIIG USB PCMCIA 4-port hub; but the printers will only work
 if connected to the laptop's builtin USB1.1 port.
 
 CUPS reports Unable to open USB device usb://hp/deskjet%205550: No such
 device, even after redoing the printer setup via http://localhost:631
 
 Just moving the cable from the PCMCIA to the builtin port allows queued
 jobs to print.

Pierre,

   Is it possible.. (and this is a real stab in the dark.) that the
printer doesn't recognize the hub as a real USB port?  So it doesn't
activate.  I've got an Epson that does that no matter what OS is on
the other end.  When I boot the box with the printer connected to the
USB hub... I don't get all of the chugging and churning I normally get
when it's directly connected.  We got rid of the hub plugged it in
directly and ... poof it works. Go figure.

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Re: [expert] Savage 4 video adapter and Xine

2003-07-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 18:15, Mike Grello wrote:
 My motherboard has an S3 savage4 video adapter and I thought I would save a 
 few bucks and use it.  I have 32MB put aside for video memory.  The adapter, 
 first of all, won't do 24 bits at 1280x1024 (should require about 8MB), it 
 breaks up, so I have it set for 16 bits (probably no whoop, it's just 
 inconsistent).  The big problem is that Xine freezes the entire machine when 
 I start it up (I am thinking lack of video overlay capability on the 
 adapter).  I am using the latest Xine, installed clean (not over the Xine 
 that came with Mandrake).  Do I need to part with the cash, or is there a way 
 around this?  I looked on the S3 web site but the driver there is from 2000, 
 so I've got to believe it won't be an improvement, unless I am missing 
 something.
 
 thanks

Mike,

  two things.. there where some bugs in bugzilla related to the S3
problems.  I'm told but cannot verify that both 18mdk and 16mm fix them
to some extent.  (btw 16mm works a lot better with Xine anyway.)  

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[expert] wierd probs with tape drive

2003-07-07 Thread David E Fox
Hey, I am trying to recover files off of a tape - I did a 
backup last night, and the machine hung at the end of the
backup. So I rebooted, and now (with another tape) am trying
to bring in some files I had saved previously - these had
reading troubles before.

I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which
is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C 
controller. 

Now tar is coming back with /dev/st0: cannot allocate memory.

I'm using Cooker, with:

Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686 
unknown unknown GNU/Linux

Kernel issue?

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Re: [expert] wierd probs with tape drive

2003-07-07 Thread David E Fox
 I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which
 is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C 
 controller. 

Bad form I know but it's starting to read the files. Dunno waht
happened. I reset the machine, tried 2.4.16 older kernel, couldn't 
even get into the drive, said no /dev/st0. Modules looked like
they were there, but possibly unused.

With 2.4.21.0.1mdk, it lets me start tarring from the drive but 
it seems pretty slow - these are .mp3 files though. I was getting
read errors from the drive yesterday...


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Re: [expert] HP printers on USB

2003-07-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 07 July 2003 03:49 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 16:13, Pierre Fortin wrote:
  Just a heads up...
 
  I have not fully analyzed this; but my HP 5550 (USB2.0) printers will not
  work if connected to a USB/PCMCIA port.  My camera, external HDs, etc,
  all work off the SIIG USB PCMCIA 4-port hub; but the printers will only
  work if connected to the laptop's builtin USB1.1 port.
 
  CUPS reports Unable to open USB device usb://hp/deskjet%205550: No
  such device, even after redoing the printer setup via
  http://localhost:631
 
  Just moving the cable from the PCMCIA to the builtin port allows queued
  jobs to print.

 Pierre,

Is it possible.. (and this is a real stab in the dark.) that the
 printer doesn't recognize the hub as a real USB port?  So it doesn't
 activate.  I've got an Epson that does that no matter what OS is on
 the other end.  When I boot the box with the printer connected to the
 USB hub... I don't get all of the chugging and churning I normally get
 when it's directly connected.  We got rid of the hub plugged it in
 directly and ... poof it works. Go figure.

 James

I recall reading that some external USB hubs are not powered, and therefore 
are only usable with passive devices. That might explain James' problem, but 
probably not Pierre's.
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Re: [expert] CD Burner

2003-07-07 Thread Joseph Loo
I believe it is/
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:53, Joseph Loo wrote:
 

I tried looking around for some information on burning CD's. I have a 
Plextor 12/10/32 scsi on a ultrawide scsi card. When ever I try to burn 
a cd on the burenr, I can only get reliable burns if the write speed is 
set as 3x on gnome toaster. If I try to do anything faster than that 4, 
6, etc. the system loks like it it burning the CD correctly. If I try to 
read it, the system does not recognize it as a valid cd. I am using the 
standard defaults with gnome-toaster except for the speed.

Also how do you make a copy of a cd with gnome toaster?
   

Is this a Plextor Model Number PX-W1210S ?

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Re: [expert] Partition resize...

2003-07-07 Thread John McQuillen
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 22:18, John McQuillen wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I have just moved my Mandrake 9.1 installation to a larger hard drive. I
 created partitions on the new drive with larger sizes to fill the new
 drive, then cloned the partitions from the old drive one at a time with
 Norton Ghost. After recreating the boot loader from the rescue disk, my
 system has booted and everything works A-OK.
 The only problem is that although Diskdrake shows the new partitions at
 the new sizes, df still reports the old sizes and free space. It appears
 that the file systems have not grown to fit the new partitions. Is there
 anything that I can do to fix this, or do I have to start again?
 
Ok, since no-one here seems to know the answer to this, I posted to
another forum (SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group) and got the answer which
was to use resize_reiserfs (in my case) to resize the file system to the
partition size.

I had to boot to the rescue disk after copying resize_reiserfs to a
floppy, as I discovered it is not on the rescue disk :( and run
resize_reiserfs /dev/hdax for each of the partitions [1,6,7,8] that
required resizing.

You learn something new every day! :)

Cheers,

John...

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