Re: [expert] directory/file size limits
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 18:07, Asier Goikoetxea Yanci wrote: Thanks James, although it was not exactly what I was looking for (I wanted to assign a limit to a single folder, not to the whole system), your suggestion drived me to find out the C function 'setrlimit', with which I can assign a maximum numbers of bytes that can take each file created by a program after calling this function. Thanks again, Asier Cool, Long as your problem is solved.. I'll grin peacefully over in my corner. James On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 7:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Asier, The command you may want is ulimit. This will limit the size of a specific file and since in Linux everything is a file it has affect on directories as well. (Although not as fine tuned.) The man page for Ulimite bytes and I haven't found a good ref on how to use it here. Basically you enter a size in k so for a 2 meg limit you would do ulimit 2048 and now you can't create a file larger than 2 megs. Since I usually use things the way they are (unlimited) I do it that way. Downside. This affects all users on the box. All file systems etc. For something finer grained I'm not sure. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 17:56, kiosk wrote: On 08 Jul 2003 17:54:09 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm still wondering if anyone knows about showing asterisks for the password. My daughter keeps asking why we can't have asterisks to show how many characters have been typed. I quite like the asterisks too. in a text login or in kdm? Text. I'm not interested in messing around with KDM, much. I always boot to a text login. Once I up-arrow a couple of times, and get startx i tend to think abandon hope all ye who enter [here]in, etc :) Best wishes Janet Blankfield AFAIK Bash only supports silent password command entrance. No stars. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Question about networking
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 15:48, Jim C wrote: I don't suppose there is an inexpensive hardware router/Firewall/switch out there that will do DHCP relaying? Jim C. If you have an old machine around (486 is OK) have a look at www.smoothwall.org I have an old K6 III but I can't get it to work with anything. Think there might be something wrong with it. Was going to try and use MNF but couldn't get it to recognize more than one card. Tried smoothwall. Couldn't figure it out. Depending on the motherboard and the type of card. Could it have been two cards wanting the same irq and BIOS disabling one of them? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Question about networking
Depending on the motherboard and the type of card. Could it have been two cards wanting the same irq and BIOS disabling one of them? Actually I didn't think to check the BIOS. Thanks for the idea. :-) Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ntp error
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 16:55, Gary Montalbine wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Cheaters way to configure it. If you have the wizards installed. (urpmi wizards will get it.) It will give you a new icon on the left called Server Configuration. Chose Time Wizard from the list (it's at the bottom scroll down.) and it will give you a list of working time servers... and set things up to a working condition. James Noticed that the only wizards rpm available in Mandrake Club was for the old ML distributions. Will the rpm also work in 9.1 or should I just try it and see. I am only trying to find a time standard to sync my box. I use nistime via windows. Would like to find a Linux counterpart. Gary The wizards I'm talking about are in the main distro ... drakwizard-1.8-1mdk for 9.1 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Question about networking
The trick to smoothie is to put in the NIC that you want for the RED (outside/internet) interface first. Configure as RED - GREENusing modem and then add your other (GREEN /LAN) NIC and configure it through the setup user. I normally use the slower of the two, IE 3COM 3C905, as the RED interface. Nah... I'm really thinking that there is something wrong with that box. That and I have niether hardware nor money just this instant. Unemployment sux. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] atmel Wireless and Config
Hi Folks, dunno if anyone of you has some experience with this wifi part. However - I managed to get everything running etc., but I always need to manually use lvnet to put the correct settings. From the /etc/modules.conf file I do see that a Post-Llading script /bin/fastvnet.sh is executed after the module for the hardware Driver has been loaded - to configure the Device. This script reads in the ~root/.vnetrc file to extract it's configuration. Does anyone has such a File, that runs correctly somewhere laying around and would be willing to share it's content with me ? Thx Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] hotmail email client
Hi, list, Do you know if there is a email client of Hotmail in Linux? Because I have an account on Hotmail, I want to check my email in Linux not by browser. thanx, Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. Cheers Joerg Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
From: Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. If I remember the AMD documentation correctly, it was stated that anything below 70 degrees C is acceptable, but as far as the core goes it's temperature limit is somewhere between 90 and 110 degrees C sepending on manufacturing batches ... Of course running with those temeratures will shorten the life of the components, but hey... then you have a reason to upgrade ;-) Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. As for nForce2 lm_sensors / i2c support, it will work as soon as v 2.8.0 goes stable... I'm going to pull the files from cvs soon, and see if it's stable enough to use... And when the MDK 9.2 is released I hope to have it all in place... Best Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1/9.0: Huge number of errors for eth0 RX packets
From: Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok solved. Replacing the tulip driver by the dmfe driver did the trick. No more RX errors, no more errors at all. in /etc/modules.conf replaced alias eth0 tulip with alias eth0 dmfe /Fred Nice to hear... Now can you send lspcidrake -v (not lspci -v) directly to me so we can get it changed in the MDK installer... regards Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
My main computer with AMD Duron 1.3GHz (Morgan core) is now running with CPU Temp 43C, MB temp 33C, ambient room temp 23C with 100% cpu load ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cooling is handled by 1 19dB 80mm fan in front as intake, 1 24dB 80mm in back as out. and CPU cooler is Speeze RaptorCool I. The computer is afaict silent (below ambient noise level) AMD CPUs have threshold of 90C but suggested max operating temp of 75C On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:08, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. Cheers Joerg Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) -- Seppo Jarvinen,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never trust an operating system Kenttäkatu 9 A 2,76100 PIEKSÄMÄKI you don't have sources for. GSM +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
Cool news. Thx for notifying us :) Cheers Joerg Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. As for nForce2 lm_sensors / i2c support, it will work as soon as v 2.8.0 goes stable... I'm going to pull the files from cvs soon, and see if it's stable enough to use... And when the MDK 9.2 is released I hope to have it all in place... -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.
Today i can't make tests, but tomorrow i'll be free and probably online so i'll try to be more usefull. I remember that i had a long passprhase with blanks and it didn't work. I chose a simple word to try if it could work and that was right so i didn't change it and now i use that key with that passprhase. Try this way. Hope it can help Angelo --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:13, R N dev wrote: my gnupg version is 1.2.2-1.1mdk Anyway I usually rebuild my RPMs as root so I don't know if i have the same problem as normal user. Angelo Same here actually.. especially if I have to build on RH (it's easier than fixing all of the path problems it has.) But despite some valuable info... I still can't get MDK to sign rpms. James --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:21, R N dev wrote: once, i had the same problem, i don't know if it is related but after having update the gpg (form mdk update) i haven't got it any more. (i deleted ~/.gnupg directory and re-generated the key) Angelo Hm I should be uptodate... what version do you have? (and the key has been regened about 5 times now*grin*) James --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Went to this page. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros file edited it as it outlined. then I did gpg --gen-key filled in the blanks ... generated a key. now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec it asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the key-gen phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed Anyone have a clue as to what I did wrong? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CDRW
On Wednesday July 9 2003 11:53 pm, dfox wrote: i want to d/l sone stuff on usenet but i haven't yet tried this. aren't the files all in rAR? ie once you tag a 'movie' what do you have to do to make it watchable? D/l all the rar parts and then 'rar e movie.part01.rar'. It'll find the rest of the rar's. Or use file-roller. Bring up the rar's in a file manager, click on the first part, then OK. Both the CL and the GUI for it will stop if one of the parts is missing. Both display progress while the movie is being extracted. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) Vox Blue? only Blue matters? damn, I have been letting the grey smoke out all the time,,, and now I have to try to let the blue out... those little black smoke boxes sure hold a lot of smoke some times,,, but damn I did not know it had to be Blue... g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thursday July 10 2003 05:52 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. If I remember the AMD documentation correctly, it was stated that anything below 70 degrees C is acceptable, but as far as the core goes it's temperature limit is somewhere between 90 and 110 degrees C sepending on manufacturing batches ... The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. Something overclockers have long known. So 60C from a probe could be as high as 80C core temp. Unless that's under extreme load (ie, cpuburn, 100% load), it's too high. If 60C is reported by a motherboard reading the cpu's internal diode, then 60C is OK. From a probe the reported temp would need to be at least under 60, and maybe under 50C, to qualify as 'acceptable'. IME, for motherboards which use a probe, +10C is probly OK for temps read from a cpu pin. Use +20C if a contact thermistor is used. Most newer boards read from a pin. There's a few motherboards in the last year, that can read the internal diode AMD began putting in their XP cpu's since 6/10/02. On those boards the reported temp is the core temp. With either accurate diode, or approximate/adjusted probe reporting, you can expect the temps to go up as the cpu ages. Say about 5C after around 18 months. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hotmail email client
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 01:12, lqlee wrote: Hi, list, Do you know if there is a email client of Hotmail in Linux? Because I have an account on Hotmail, I want to check my email in Linux not by browser. thanx, Lee http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=hotmailsection=projectsx=0y=0 item 6 -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. As everyone else has said, AMDs run very hot. As long as you're playing with lm_sensors, have a look at lmcgi :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/statistics for an example. The case fan says zero because I'm not using the three-pin motherboard connector right now. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Draksync...how
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thunderstorms have conspired to wreck my HDD. I bought a new one and now wish to bring my desktop fully current with my laptop. It is simply unreasonably slow to do it via MandrakeUpdate because of my dialup speed and phone usage needs so I would like to sync my desktop with my laptop. My laptop goes to work with me and gets to enjoy the speed of an ethernet connection, thus it is painless for me to keep it updated. Last night I tried for perhaps an hour to figure out draksync without success. I don't get the passphrase thing, as I can simply ssh or sftp between my two systems using just my password. I did some man page reading and THOUGHT I had it licked, trying 'ssh-keygen' but it appears I did not. I tried to create a passphrase, but when that didn't work out, I decided to blow it off and do the keygen and forego the passphrase. This didn't work either. Whenever I try to draksync from either my desktop or laptop, I get asked for a passphrase but no matter what, entering the passphrase I tried generating and trying to send nothing when I decided against a passphrase, I get rejected for not having a passphrase. What are the steps to get a working passphrase that will actually work with draksync? This is new to me as I have usually simply sftp'd between my systems and downloaded a bunch of rpms from my laptop to my desktop that I downloaded on a given day. Any help here would be appreciated. praedor - -- Not a single 9/11 terrorist came from Iraq, nor did a single one train in Iraq. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DXMQaKr9sJYeTxgRAlvhAJ98bvovbgrQbEZbYwrK62AZD1jG1QCdFDxC Fm9un+6ybHicHy3jE8C6CKs= =L8CN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:38, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 13:13, Richard Bown wrote: Found it Jack mii-tool any suggestions for those without mii support? *grin* Next time spend $20 on a NIC instead of $10 :-) Or hunt through the /proc interface and see if you get lucky. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:39, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:03, Jack Coates wrote: sorry -- I should clarify that I hardly ever type more than three letters of a given command before hitting tab :-) Yeah... know that one... gets to be a real bear when you have to move to a cshell no tab. James that right there is my number one problem with Solaris. If I'm going to be on a Solaris box for more than an hour or so, I'm installing bash :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thursday 10 July 2003 08:49 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday July 10 2003 05:52 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. If I remember the AMD documentation correctly, it was stated that anything below 70 degrees C is acceptable, but as far as the core goes it's temperature limit is somewhere between 90 and 110 degrees C sepending on manufacturing batches ... The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. Something overclockers have long known. So 60C from a probe could be as high as 80C core temp. Unless that's under extreme load (ie, cpuburn, 100% load), it's too high. If 60C is reported by a motherboard reading the cpu's internal diode, then 60C is OK. From a probe the reported temp would need to be at least under 60, and maybe under 50C, to qualify as 'acceptable'. IME, for motherboards which use a probe, +10C is probly OK for temps read from a cpu pin. Use +20C if a contact thermistor is used. Most newer boards read from a pin. There's a few motherboards in the last year, that can read the internal diode AMD began putting in their XP cpu's since 6/10/02. On those boards the reported temp is the core temp. With either accurate diode, or approximate/adjusted probe reporting, you can expect the temps to go up as the cpu ages. Say about 5C after around 18 months. Don't know about everyone else, but with my XP2100, when I was running at 50C; 55C under load, as reported by lmsensors, I had intermittent crashes, especially with games. So I think the part about the cpu core actually running quite a bit hotter than what is reported is true. Since I made a few mods and its running at about 38C now, the crashes have disappeared. YMMV, as the venerable T. Brinkman says... :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. Something overclockers have long known. So 60C from a probe could be as high as 80C core temp. Unless that's under extreme load (ie, cpuburn, 100% load), it's too high. If 60C is reported by a motherboard reading the cpu's internal diode, then 60C is OK. From a probe the reported temp would need to be at least under 60, and maybe under 50C, to qualify as 'acceptable'. IME, for motherboards which use a probe, +10C is probly OK for temps read from a cpu pin. Use +20C if a contact thermistor is used. Most newer boards read from a pin. There's a few motherboards in the last year, that can read the internal diode AMD began putting in their XP cpu's since 6/10/02. On those boards the reported temp is the core temp. With either accurate diode, or approximate/adjusted probe reporting, you can expect the temps to go up as the cpu ages. Say about 5C after around 18 months. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk)
Thanks BIG for this info!!
Very helpful.how come it does not get a hit of
google?
Richard
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On Wed Jul 09, 2003 at 02:46:56PM -0700, Tru64 User
wrote:
I need to upgrade my apache to probably 1.3.27
1. Where can i find ExtranetServer? Cannot locate
it
on apache.org at all..what branch of apache is
extranetServer?
2. Is there a way to build a new apache with the
current configuration?
I build one from scratch, but it keeps complaining
about lots of modules, even though i compiled with
options
--enable-module=most
--enable-shared=max
I need the newly built httpd to be able to use
current
httpd.conf without much in terms of changes.
Any easy way out?
www.advx.org
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Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 08:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. As everyone else has said, AMDs run very hot. As long as you're playing with lm_sensors, have a look at lmcgi :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/statistics for an example. The case fan says zero because I'm not using the three-pin motherboard connector right now. As you all can see, Jack's idle temp seems to be the low 40's, it was 42C whenever I checked it. So he is exactly where he is supposed to be tempwise. 60C is way too high. --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] heretic2 and sound in mandrake 9.1
On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:30 am, R N dev wrote: have a look here: http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?appId=823 Angelo Er...Heretic 2 is native to Linux :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] heretic2 and sound in mandrake 9.1
have a look here: http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?appId=823 Angelo --- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been a while since I last played this game but now I have some family visiting and at least one of these visitors would like to pass some time playing it. I installed it last night, got it working with my NVidia Ti4200 just fine, but I have no sound and it looks to be a libSDL issue of some sort. Has anyone managed to get this game working with sound in Mandrake 9.1 (or 9.0 which is likely similar enough for me to copy)? I have all the libSDL rpms installed that came with 9.1 but perhaps one is missing that is needed by this game? praedor __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:19, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. Overclockers usually don't like a CPU load temp to go over 60C. If it's operating at that or over during load then it's likely that the life of the CPU is being shortened. I've got a Vantec Areoflow VA4-C7040 HSF with a substandard heat compound (got Arctic Silver 3 on order) and even with a crappy heat grease and high core/IO voltages, the under-load temperature of the CPU never exceeds 60C. Remember, that's with overclocking. A stock system should NEVER exceed or even approach 60C load. The target load temp for stock systems is around 50C. As peace of mind is pretty cheap these days in the form of better cooling, it's best to remember that 50C reported from mobo sensors can be worse than 60C from CPU core diode sensor. For me, peace of mind is a Vantec Areoflow and Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound. --LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thursday July 10 2003 09:19 am, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also said to add 10 to 20C to reported probe (thermistor) cpu temps, to approximate the internal core temp. No, I agree. 230F = 110C is a temp I've never seen in AMD docs. Even 203F = 95C seems unbelieveable. But that is the max temp AMD specs for processor failure. I think they mean permanently fried ;) IMO, AMD's should be kept under 60C core ( 50C from a probe) at extreme load, or you're gonna see heat related problems. Lettin 'em run hot causes a gradual degradation of the core. I only wonder why recently AMD began internal diode temp sensing for the core. Something even the first Pentiums have had all along, including good motherboard support for it. From what I've read, the few recent AMD boards that can read the new AMD diode, don't do it very well. I believe that's why Intels are the preferred cpu's for servers. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] [Part II] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 (urpmi, security)
Why isnt 1.3.27 listed in any of the update sources? i use secsup.org, and tried to all updates using: urpmi --auto-select --media update_source where update_source ==secsup.org Any reason why 1.3.27 of ExtranetServer is not part of regular security updates? Any easy way of fetchinginstalling it with urpmi ? _Thanks Richard __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Thursday 10 July 2003 06:44 am, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:39, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:03, Jack Coates wrote: sorry -- I should clarify that I hardly ever type more than three letters of a given command before hitting tab :-) Yeah... know that one... gets to be a real bear when you have to move to a cshell no tab. James that right there is my number one problem with Solaris. If I'm going to be on a Solaris box for more than an hour or so, I'm installing bash :-) Same goes for FreeBSD G -- Ken Thompson WA7SYR Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk)
On Thu Jul 10, 2003 at 07:01:24AM -0700, Tru64 User wrote:
Thanks BIG for this info!!
Very helpful.how come it does not get a hit of
google?
Absolutely no clue. However:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: vdanen]$ rpm -qi apache2|grep URL
URL : http://www.advx.org
The information is right in the rpm headers... =)
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Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import
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Re: [expert] [Part II] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 (urpmi, security)
On Thu Jul 10, 2003 at 08:38:26AM -0700, Tru64 User wrote:
Why isnt 1.3.27 listed in any of the update sources? i
use secsup.org, and tried to all updates using:
urpmi --auto-select --media update_source where
update_source ==secsup.org
Any reason why 1.3.27 of ExtranetServer is not part of
regular security updates?
Any easy way of fetchinginstalling it with urpmi ?
Why do you want 1.3.27 in security updates? Why did you expect it to be?
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA-2002:068
You can see we patched our versions of apache to fix the vulns that were
discovered in versions prior to, and fixed in, 1.3.27.
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Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import
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[expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due -- Bill Beauchemin www.billbeau.net Home Of Beau's Bullet PSCA H/S 8 and Beautie Goldens Puppy Cam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT - quake3
Hey all, I've been REALLY busy the last few months and haven't had the chance to play my favorite game, q3a. I just started it up last night and after finding that I had to install the latest point release, 1.32b, to make it work again - I did a few warm up games then jumped onto multiplayer - aaa!!! Where did all the servers go??? PLEASE tell me it's something simple!! Did everyone quit playing quake??? I don't think I could make it through life knowing that q3a is no longer out there!! I guess I took it for granted, just thinking it would always be there for me, I should have paid more attention, I feel awful!! Ok, enough drama, does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks :) Mike Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
Hi Bill beautiful green puppies on a green background, thats of course mozilla green, maybe it should have been penguines On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 19:23, Bill Beauchemin wrote: If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
On Thursday 10 July 2003 02:23 pm, Bill Beauchemin wrote: pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Bill, may I ask how you set it up so that other people can see what your webcam is seeing via camstream? I've got camstream working here with my Logitech Pro 3000, but I can't figure out how to let other people see it. I've got cable-modem service, and I'm using a Dlink router (model DL-604). Thanks! PS Ever get Gnomemeeting working with v9.1? I can't. :-( -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hotmail email client
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 July 2003 01:12 am, lqlee wrote: Hi, list, Do you know if there is a email client of Hotmail in Linux? Because I have an account on Hotmail, I want to check my email in Linux not by browser. thanx, Lee I use gotmail, it downloads the messages, and I use k-mail to read/reply to 'em - -- ***### Linux user #:265953 os:mandake v9.0/winME cpu:amd duron 1.2G mobo:asus a7v133mem:256M cdr:LG-8080Bnic:netgear fa311 graphics:nvidia geforce3 ti200 64m ddr hda:FUJITSU MPA3017AT, 1.7G hdb:Western Digital WD1200BBRTL, 120G hdd:SAMSUNG SV3063H, 30G sound:ensoniq creative audiopci/es1370 videocapture:Hauppauge WinTV GO 190 Today is Tommorrow, is Yesterday, but neither, is niether loc:48'02N 122'49W -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Dac5eyQvdOSh1pcRAlEhAJwLh4nKItk552scRE75FMD5ChmDVwCgnOJU l3qujdxSiDTS0AcYWoA0QlI= =bspW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 08:27, Ken Thompson wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 06:44 am, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:39, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:03, Jack Coates wrote: sorry -- I should clarify that I hardly ever type more than three letters of a given command before hitting tab :-) Yeah... know that one... gets to be a real bear when you have to move to a cshell no tab. James that right there is my number one problem with Solaris. If I'm going to be on a Solaris box for more than an hour or so, I'm installing bash :-) Same goes for FreeBSD G This is where the thought comes from However in FreeBSD bash is just a ports call away. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:03, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) Vox Blue? only Blue matters? damn, I have been letting the grey smoke out all the time,,, and now I have to try to let the blue out... those little black smoke boxes sure hold a lot of smoke some times,,, but damn I did not know it had to be Blue... Whatever you do don't let the yellow smoke out unless the windows are open stuff has a really bad sulphur odor to it. *grin* __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 07:19, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. No joke.. Now you know why they don't put these chips out for laptops They could advertise them as combination computers and stove tops. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
Convincing her to have penguines instead of puppies would be a pretty tough sell. Richard Bown wrote: Hi Bill beautiful green puppies on a green background, thats of course mozilla green, maybe it should have been penguines On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 19:23, Bill Beauchemin wrote: If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT - quake3
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I've been REALLY busy the last few months and haven't had the chance to play my favorite game, q3a. I just started it up last night and after finding that I had to install the latest point release, 1.32b, to make it work again - I did a few warm up games then jumped onto multiplayer - aaa!!! Where did all the servers go??? PLEASE tell me it's something simple!! Did everyone quit playing quake??? I don't think I could make it through life knowing that q3a is no longer out there!! I guess I took it for granted, just thinking it would always be there for me, I should have paid more attention, I feel awful!! Ok, enough drama, does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks :) Mike they saw ya coming and ran away :-) I had to make some change or another to make it view punkbuster games in the server list. I can't remember right now and I'm hesitant to fire up q3a in the office, but it was a setting in the multiplayer server browser. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 03:54, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. As for nForce2 lm_sensors / i2c support, it will work as soon as v 2.8.0 goes stable... I'm going to pull the files from cvs soon, and see if it's stable enough to use... And when the MDK 9.2 is released I hope to have it all in place... Best Regards Thomas Now if you can just pull some magic and get the manf's to set things up right you'll really be singing Thanks for the effort. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Draksync...how
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 07:06, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thunderstorms have conspired to wreck my HDD. I bought a new one and now wish to bring my desktop fully current with my laptop. It is simply unreasonably slow to do it via MandrakeUpdate because of my dialup speed and phone usage needs so I would like to sync my desktop with my laptop. My laptop goes to work with me and gets to enjoy the speed of an ethernet connection, thus it is painless for me to keep it updated. Last night I tried for perhaps an hour to figure out draksync without success. I don't get the passphrase thing, as I can simply ssh or sftp between my two systems using just my password. I did some man page reading and THOUGHT I had it licked, trying 'ssh-keygen' but it appears I did not. I tried to create a passphrase, but when that didn't work out, I decided to blow it off and do the keygen and forego the passphrase. This didn't work either. Whenever I try to draksync from either my desktop or laptop, I get asked for a passphrase but no matter what, entering the passphrase I tried generating and trying to send nothing when I decided against a passphrase, I get rejected for not having a passphrase. What are the steps to get a working passphrase that will actually work with draksync? This is new to me as I have usually simply sftp'd between my systems and downloaded a bunch of rpms from my laptop to my desktop that I downloaded on a given day. Any help here would be appreciated. praedor Praedor. Do a search for laptop on Freshmeat. There are a number of sync tools specifically designed for this. I don't think any of them are in contribs but there is always the source route. As for syncing my laptop. I use gftp. It skips what's the same and transfers the rest (I only sync one way... and only data.) So I don't use / need any of them. But they are there.. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 04:57, R N dev wrote: Today i can't make tests, but tomorrow i'll be free and probably online so i'll try to be more usefull. I remember that i had a long passprhase with blanks and it didn't work. I chose a simple word to try if it could work and that was right so i didn't change it and now i use that key with that passprhase. Try this way. Hope it can help Angelo Angelo it would be appreciated. I've been trying to get it to work here and what I have found is that I can sign everything BUT an rpm grr. James --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:13, R N dev wrote: my gnupg version is 1.2.2-1.1mdk Anyway I usually rebuild my RPMs as root so I don't know if i have the same problem as normal user. Angelo Same here actually.. especially if I have to build on RH (it's easier than fixing all of the path problems it has.) But despite some valuable info... I still can't get MDK to sign rpms. James --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:21, R N dev wrote: once, i had the same problem, i don't know if it is related but after having update the gpg (form mdk update) i haven't got it any more. (i deleted ~/.gnupg directory and re-generated the key) Angelo Hm I should be uptodate... what version do you have? (and the key has been regened about 5 times now*grin*) James --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Went to this page. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros file edited it as it outlined. then I did gpg --gen-key filled in the blanks ... generated a key. now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec it asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the key-gen phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed Anyone have a clue as to what I did wrong? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SUMMARY: [Part II] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26 (urpmi, security)
I got this to work by downloading all the files (from advx.org) into a local file, call it l_updates. Then urpmi.addmedia l_updates file://home/user/l_updates After than, installed 1.3.27 like this:: urpmi --autoselect --media l_update This installed all the stuff on the l_updates directory. _Thanks --- Tru64 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why isnt 1.3.27 listed in any of the update sources? i use secsup.org, and tried to all updates using: urpmi --auto-select --media update_source where update_source ==secsup.org Any reason why 1.3.27 of ExtranetServer is not part of regular security updates? Any easy way of fetchinginstalling it with urpmi ? _Thanks Richard __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
What I did was setup my laptop to run apache. I have a linksys dsl router and have port 80 going to that machine. I then started up apache to run on my laptop. As root I started camstream from the /var/www/html directory and then have camstream save a snapshot every 9 seconds to that directory. Now you have the graphic that is overwritten every 9 seconds in your html directory. Now just right yourself a html file that refreshes every 10 seconds and reference the graphic ising the img tag. boom ya got a camera on the web. I wanted to use my hevy duty server i have sittng doing nothing its a Compaq dual 400 with 6 20 gig scsi drives but the fans in this beast are way to loud for around the puppies. So im stuck running it off my laptop. On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 12:49, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 02:23 pm, Bill Beauchemin wrote: pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Bill, may I ask how you set it up so that other people can see what your webcam is seeing via camstream? I've got camstream working here with my Logitech Pro 3000, but I can't figure out how to let other people see it. I've got cable-modem service, and I'm using a Dlink router (model DL-604). Thanks! PS Ever get Gnomemeeting working with v9.1? I can't. :-( -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Bill Beauchemin www.billbeau.net Home Of Beau's Bullet PSCA H/S 8 and Beautie Goldens Puppy Cam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. As everyone else has said, AMDs run very hot. As long as you're playing with lm_sensors, have a look at lmcgi :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/statistics for an example. The case fan says zero because I'm not using the three-pin motherboard connector right now. Dunno about the fans but from what I saw... you may need to look at your power supply core voltage was at 1.71v. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 13:14, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. As everyone else has said, AMDs run very hot. As long as you're playing with lm_sensors, have a look at lmcgi :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/statistics for an example. The case fan says zero because I'm not using the three-pin motherboard connector right now. Dunno about the fans but from what I saw... you may need to look at your power supply core voltage was at 1.71v. James Yeah, I've been ignoring that for quite a while. I think when this box dies I'll just start over and do it right. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:46, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:38, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 13:13, Richard Bown wrote: Found it Jack mii-tool any suggestions for those without mii support? *grin* Next time spend $20 on a NIC instead of $10 :-) Or hunt through the /proc interface and see if you get lucky. Actually it was 70 dollars and the nic is wireless. (about a year ago) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Draksync...how
On Thursday 10 July 2003 16:06, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thunderstorms have conspired to wreck my HDD. I bought a new one and now wish to bring my desktop fully current with my laptop. It is simply unreasonably slow to do it via MandrakeUpdate because of my dialup speed and phone usage needs so I would like to sync my desktop with my laptop. My laptop goes to work with me and gets to enjoy the speed of an ethernet connection, thus it is painless for me to keep it updated. Last night I tried for perhaps an hour to figure out draksync without success. I don't get the passphrase thing, as I can simply ssh or sftp between my two systems using just my password. I did some man page reading and THOUGHT I had it licked, trying 'ssh-keygen' but it appears I did not. I tried to create a passphrase, but when that didn't work out, I decided to blow it off and do the keygen and forego the passphrase. This didn't work either. Whenever I try to draksync from either my desktop or laptop, I get asked for a passphrase but no matter what, entering the passphrase I tried generating and trying to send nothing when I decided against a passphrase, I get rejected for not having a passphrase. What are the steps to get a working passphrase that will actually work with draksync? This is new to me as I have usually simply sftp'd between my systems and downloaded a bunch of rpms from my laptop to my desktop that I downloaded on a given day. Any help here would be appreciated. praedor - -- Not a single 9/11 terrorist came from Iraq, nor did a single one train in Iraq. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DXMQaKr9sJYeTxgRAlvhAJ98bvovbgrQbEZbYwrK62AZD1jG1QCdFDxC Fm9un+6ybHicHy3jE8C6CKs= =L8CN -END PGP SIGNATURE- AFAIK it (draksync) works out of the box i.e. log in as the user that has ownership of the files you want to sync, same as you would ssh. You didn't forget to install/set-up the ssh server did you? Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
On Thursday 10 July 2003 04:36 pm, Bill Beauchemin wrote: What I did was setup my laptop to run apache. I have a linksys dsl router and have port 80 going to that machine. I then started up apache to run on my laptop. As root I started camstream from the /var/www/html directory and then have camstream save a snapshot every 9 seconds to that directory. Now you have the graphic that is overwritten every 9 seconds in your html directory. Now just right yourself a html file that refreshes every 10 seconds and reference the graphic ising the img tag. boom ya got a camera on the web. I wanted to use my hevy duty server i have sittng doing nothing its a Compaq dual 400 with 6 20 gig scsi drives but the fans in this beast are way to loud for around the puppies. So im stuck running it off my laptop. Ah, so thats how you did it. I was hoping you had found a way to access it directly thru your router. Oh well... :-) Anyways, another poster said something about it being a little on the green side. Looked great here. Thanks and see ya! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
Bill Beauchemin wrote: If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due wow! i read this, brought up your site in konqueror and immediately witnessed the birth of the litter, what incredible timing!! congrats on the pups! :) -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
I dont think there ios another site out there that has this. So I made it the home of the puppy cam. Is there anyway to protect it from someone else getting the idea and saying the same thing. On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:25, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Bill Beauchemin wrote: If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due wow! i read this, brought up your site in konqueror and immediately witnessed the birth of the litter, what incredible timing!! congrats on the pups! :) -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Bill Beauchemin www.billbeau.net Home Of Beau's Bullet PSCA H/S 8 and Beautie Goldens Puppy Cam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux webcam using camsteam
Well my bad I just looked it up and there are 56,000 refrences to puppy cam on Yahoo. Nothing for a live birth though. On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:25, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Bill Beauchemin wrote: If you want to see how linux works with a webcam and camsteam check out pupcam.beautiegoldens.com Im running this off a laptop. it is the whelping of puppies from my champion golden retriever.we are now working on number 4 of 9 that are due wow! i read this, brought up your site in konqueror and immediately witnessed the birth of the litter, what incredible timing!! congrats on the pups! :) -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Bill Beauchemin www.billbeau.net Home Of Beau's Bullet PSCA H/S 8 and Beautie Goldens Puppy Cam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On September 1993 plus 3599 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) Vox Vox, 60C is a little too hot. That's 140 deg F. You should be getting better temps than that. You might be shortening the life of your CPU. Mmmm...depends on several factors...one is the ambient temp...which is hot like hell here in Monterrey, specially in places without AC, like my house...the real strange thing is that CPU load during summer doesn't vary the CPU temp more than a couple of C degrees...yesterday, with about 6% of CPU in use (X, Enlightenment, 2 emacs, xchat, gaim, licq, a few Eterms...normal stuff) it was at 55C...today, with 95% of CPU in use for the last 8 or 9 hours, the temp is 57C...this box has behaved like that since january when I got it :) The stock fan that comes with the Athlon is not the best deal in the world. The real deal is a Vantec Areoflow VA4-C7040. That's a fantastic piece of engineering, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I use a Volcano 6, IIRC (I didn't build this thing, a friend did...I don't open computers...HW sucks :) And I think it's doing a very good job, considering the fact that the room I'm in is at 42C at the moment :) To see what is happening, download Prime95 (mprime2212.tar.gz) from http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm I'll check that out, thanks for the suggestion...as I said, HW is not my stuff...one of my other geek friends deals with my HW, I deal with his SW :) Thanks for the bunch of tips...I'll do the SW side checks and I'll pass the HW stuff to my friend...thanks bunches :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] ethernet -cable modem
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 13:17, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:46, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:38, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 13:13, Richard Bown wrote: Found it Jack mii-tool any suggestions for those without mii support? *grin* Next time spend $20 on a NIC instead of $10 :-) Or hunt through the /proc interface and see if you get lucky. Actually it was 70 dollars and the nic is wireless. (about a year ago) James ah, the other end of lousy support. You could simply find the MIB and query it with SNMP, heh heh. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] wpd2sxw
Brent Hasty wrote: I need to convert a whole directory tree of files that are in Word Perfect Document format into OpenOffice files. I was hoping someone could help me with a small script file that will recursevly dive through a tree converting text.wpd to text.sxw leaving them in the same directory side by side using wpd2sxw Brent, Given that the WordPerfect document format is binary and proprietary, like MS Word's is, I don't think anyone will be writing any simple scripts to manage such a covnversion. However, the good news is that there are utilities already written to do at least part of the job for you. Check out this URL, you might find what you are looking for. And maybe someone will be able to write a script the automate the use of one of these tools, and be able to do what you are looking for. Here's the URL: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy! -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA In total we spend almost three years of our lives on the toilet. It's natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: 'Wow! That's a great toilet!' - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] wpd2sxw
On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:17 pm, Dave Sherman wrote: Brent Hasty wrote: I need to convert a whole directory tree of files that are in Word Perfect Document format into OpenOffice files. I was hoping someone could help me with a small script file that will recursevly dive through a tree converting text.wpd to text.sxw leaving them in the same directory side by side using wpd2sxw Brent, Given that the WordPerfect document format is binary and proprietary, like MS Word's is, I don't think anyone will be writing any simple scripts to manage such a covnversion. wpd2sxw that was mentioned by OP is a standalone app that uses libwpd to convert wpd files to OO.o format, therefore, the script part is easy. for i in ./*.wpd do wpd2sxw $i done or something like that -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] wpd2sxw
On Thursday 10 July 2003 07:16 pm, Dave Sherman wrote: Brent Hasty wrote: I need to convert a whole directory tree of files that are in Word Perfect Document format into OpenOffice files. I was hoping someone could help me with a small script file that will recursevly dive through a tree converting text.wpd to text.sxw leaving them in the same directory side by side using wpd2sxw Brent, Given that the WordPerfect document format is binary and proprietary, like MS Word's is, I don't think anyone will be writing any simple scripts to manage such a covnversion. However, the good news is that there are utilities already written to do at least part of the job for you. Check out this URL, you might find what you are looking for. And maybe someone will be able to write a script the automate the use of one of these tools, and be able to do what you are looking for. Here's the URL: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy! I understand, as illustrated in my letter the tool of choice is wpd2sxw it works sufficiently for my users needs the only trouble is it only works by hand feeding it one file at a time. I was just interested in bennifiting one of the script kiddies out there for making a neat little wrapper script that would allow a user to feed it say thier home directory and convert all thier legacy corel documents into the *.sxw file format while maintaining the hierarchy of thier tree. maby Mike wants to make an easy few bucks?? ?? -- The place of the material world in the universe is that of an exquisitely beautiful precipitate or varied cloud-work in the universal Æther, determined by a geometrical necessity ~ Professor John G. Macvicar1870 ~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel
Somebody scribbled about [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel For those interested, I recompiled the 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk kernel with pretty aggresive athlon-xp optflags, and it works fine. These flags also work on other kernels I have tried. The trick in making them take How useful is this for older (i.e., 1000) Athlon's? I recognize some of the flags, others are very new (maybe they weren't in gcc prior to 3.2 or something)? wrc1944 -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cdrw
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] cdrw Having said that, I have some words of wisdom: Get A Credit Card! 1) A real credit card company will let you file, at least one, secondary delivery address. I was surprised at this development. It's logical, given all the id theft and other things going on. I am surprised that my bank wouldn't have any provision for a secondary address. Unfortunately, due to unfortunate circumstances, loss of income and etc., my credit is pretty bad, so getting a 'real' credit card is not doable right now. :( 2) [more importantly] NEVER EVER, and I mean EVER give out debit card info on the internet, no matter how much you trust the recipient. If you do, you can find your bank account RAPED for all it's worth. With I've had this happen once or maybe twice recently. The one time it happened there was a break in to the site and my info was stolen along with everyone elses. I was able to get chargebacks and/or cooperation from most of the unauthorized transactions, and get a new debit card. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa Lite
Hey all, I followed Juan's instructions and I no longer get all the error messages like the 0001869 error in the console that I used to. I can run the install program no problem now. When I try to run `wine kpp.exe` though I get a dialogue box that says ReadProcessMemory() failed. I did some googling and found other references to this error when running Kazaa Lite on MDK 9.1 but I found no answers. Has anyone else had this and do they know how to fix it? I have tried three different versions of wine multiple DLL sets. Thanks. Tom On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 17:43, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: Hi, This is a little guide I published on: First of all, mdk's 9.1 wine rpm's ARE BROKEN. Any installer fails to install, with this error: file_set_error: No such file or directory fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosError no mapping for 0001869f I had this problem in three different machines, IMHO, the problem are the rpm's. I tried wine20030508 update from mandrake but is broken too. This time kazaa install with an error at the end, but when trying to run it it shows other errors I don't remember now. snip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:55, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. Those are more or less the temps I see here on the same CPU...since it hasn't let the blue smoke come out, I guess it's about right :) Vox Vox, 60C is a little too hot. That's 140 deg F. You should be getting better temps than that. You might be shortening the life of your CPU. Mmmm...depends on several factors...one is the ambient temp...which is hot like hell here in Monterrey, specially in places without AC, like my house...the real strange thing is that CPU load during summer doesn't vary the CPU temp more than a couple of C degrees...yesterday, with about 6% of CPU in use (X, Enlightenment, 2 emacs, xchat, gaim, licq, a few Eterms...normal stuff) it was at 55C...today, with 95% of CPU in use for the last 8 or 9 hours, the temp is 57C...this box has behaved like that since january when I got it :) The stock fan that comes with the Athlon is not the best deal in the world. The real deal is a Vantec Areoflow VA4-C7040. That's a fantastic piece of engineering, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I use a Volcano 6, IIRC (I didn't build this thing, a friend did...I don't open computers...HW sucks :) And I think it's doing a very good job, considering the fact that the room I'm in is at 42C at the moment :) To see what is happening, download Prime95 (mprime2212.tar.gz) from http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm I'll check that out, thanks for the suggestion...as I said, HW is not my stuff...one of my other geek friends deals with my HW, I deal with his SW :) Thanks for the bunch of tips...I'll do the SW side checks and I'll pass the HW stuff to my friend...thanks bunches :) Vox Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure cables (like ribbon cables) are clear of the fan. Also you might consider case fans in addition to the volcano fan. (I love volcano myself.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:23 pm, dfox wrote: Somebody scribbled about [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel For those interested, I recompiled the 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk kernel with pretty aggresive athlon-xp optflags, and it works fine. These flags also work on other kernels I have tried. The trick in making them take How useful is this for older (i.e., 1000) Athlon's? I recognize some of the flags, others are very new (maybe they weren't in gcc prior to 3.2 or something)? wrc1944 Just leave out the =xp and -mfpmath=sse flags, and it should work with Athlon t-birds. gcc 3.2 added support for the Athlon-xps, and the -march=athlon-xp flag implies -mcpu=athlon-xp, mmx, sse, and 3dnow. wrc1944 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure cables (like ribbon cables) are clear of the fan. Also you might consider case fans in addition to the volcano fan. (I love volcano myself.) I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) And yes, I like the volcano...has worked well for me...and I do have a case fan at the front and a small fan on the mboard itself...I've been thinking about getting a second case fan for the back, but am too damn lazy to go find one :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel
On Friday 11 July 2003 12:29 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Robert Crawford wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:23 pm, dfox wrote: Somebody scribbled about [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel For those interested, I recompiled the 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk kernel with pretty aggresive athlon-xp optflags, and it works fine. These flags also work on other kernels I have tried. The trick in making them take How useful is this for older (i.e., 1000) Athlon's? I recognize some of the flags, others are very new (maybe they weren't in gcc prior to 3.2 or something)? wrc1944 Just leave out the =xp and -mfpmath=sse flags, and it should work with Athlon t-birds. gcc 3.2 added support for the Athlon-xps, and the -march=athlon-xp flag implies -mcpu=athlon-xp, mmx, sse, and 3dnow. wrc1944 Does the Duron use the same flags as the t-bird? Yes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CPU temperature question
On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure cables (like ribbon cables) are clear of the fan. Also you might consider case fans in addition to the volcano fan. (I love volcano myself.) I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) And yes, I like the volcano...has worked well for me...and I do have a case fan at the front and a small fan on the mboard itself...I've been thinking about getting a second case fan for the back, but am too damn lazy to go find one :) Vox It's been my experience with numerous AMD cpus that anything over 45c. is likely to start causing random misc. problems. I always start feeling apprehensive when my temps go above 40c. Why AMD states up to 90c. is beyond me. The one time I got above 50c. the system became unusable- random lockups, shut-down problems, various hanging with programs, etc. Better cooling fixed everything instantly, so it was obviously caused by high temps. wrc1944 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
