Re: [expert] Internal mail

2003-07-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 12:29 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Friday 18 July 2003 04:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

 I'll try to help, with two caveats: I'm not a regular Kmail user
 (actually, I just set it up to see what you may see ... it's not
 half bad these days g), and also I'm running 9.0 w/ KDE 3.05a, so
 what you see may differ somewhat from what I describe anyway. But
 throwing caution to the wind, and taking the whole procedure as if
 it were being done from scratch (for clarity's sake), here goes
 nothing ... ;)

snip
 HTH!

It certainly does.  In fact there was very little difference in my 
settings and the ones you describe, so I'm confident now that they 
were fine.  I think you are right, however, about the cause of the 
problem being new threads which are created as the local user 
account.  I'll keep an eye on it for a day or two to see if it's 
sorted now.

I've taken your advice about marking the separate identities with 
'special transport' to ensure the right ones are used.  I know that, 
having set certain folders to use certain identities I can force 
that, so it seems to me that I should avoid starting a new mail when 
in Inbox, ensuring that I am actually in a folder that uses the 
default account if that's what I want.  It shouldn't take too long to 
get used to that g

Thanks again for a very clear explanation.

Anne


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[expert] ipsec.o and GCC versions ?

2003-07-19 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Folks,

just tried to use freeswan - to connect the 2 computers through the Wifi 
Network I have over here. However - without forcing an Insmode - I can't get 
the ipsec module to load. The funny thing though is that I did compile the 
kernel myself - and it doesn't seem to be a 3rd party driver IMHO ... as I 
didn't see any reference to an binary Object-file in the ipsec-part of the 
kernel source-tree that comes with the kernel-source rpm...

Used the freeswan-1.99-3mdk RPM package - and a self-compiled kernel from the 
kernel-source-2.4.21-0.18mdk source file.

Has this bug been Fixed in for the next kernel ?


Here - when I try to load the module - and I did just recompile it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ipsec]# ls -l ipsec.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root   296811 Jul 19 01:05 ipsec.o

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# modprobe ipsec
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.18c3/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: The module you are trying 
to load (/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.18c3/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o) is compiled 
with a gcc
version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with
a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work.
modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.18c3/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o failed
modprobe: insmod ipsec failed

I did now edit the module - and worked it out as described in:
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-04/msg00334.php

Thx  Cheers 

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Re: [expert] ipsec.o and GCC versions ?

2003-07-19 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Folks,

 just tried to use freeswan - to connect the 2 computers through the Wifi
 Network I have over here. However - without forcing an Insmode - I can't
get
 the ipsec module to load. The funny thing though is that I did compile the
 kernel myself - and it doesn't seem to be a 3rd party driver IMHO ... as I
 didn't see any reference to an binary Object-file in the ipsec-part of the
 kernel source-tree that comes with the kernel-source rpm...

 Used the freeswan-1.99-3mdk RPM package - and a self-compiled kernel from
the
 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.18mdk source file.

 Has this bug been Fixed in for the next kernel ?


It's fixed in current Cooker, and in the next kernel update Juan / Vincent
will push out...

Thomas



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Re: [expert] problem with filesystem check

2003-07-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 19 July 2003 09:38 am, R N dev wrote:
 Hi, every 21 times the filesystem check starts on boot
 and fails. This problem is present only with MSK91
 (not
 in 8.1 8.2 or 9.0).
 I was not care about this till the repear phase hasn't
 failed. Some important libraries (such as qt) were
 corrupted and i'm not sure to have problem in
 future using programms that i'm not usually use.
 I decided to ask help because a friend of mine had
 the same problem last week always with mandrake 9.1
 but different HW.
 We have similar HD partitions i.e.
 /dev/hda5 on / type ext2
 /dev/hda7 on /home type ext3

 Can the problem be on ext2 partition and if, how
 can i change to ext3 without loosing anything?

 Thanks in advance
 Angelo


Angelo:
Converting an existing ext2 filesystem to ext3 is pretty simple. Open up a 
terminal as root and type:
tune2fs -j /dev/hda5
to set up the journalling. Now open up /etc/fstab in whatever editor, and edit 
the appropriate device(s) to show ext3 in place of ext2:
dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
Exit and save. That's it.
This _should_ stop the mandatory file checks. If it doesn't, you may have a 
problem.
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Re: [expert] problem with filesystem check

2003-07-19 Thread R N dev

 tune2fs -j /dev/hda5

Can i do it without umounting my device? i read this
before but i remenber someone who said to umount
partition.

 This _should_ stop the mandatory file checks. If it
 doesn't, you may have a 
 problem.

hope it should!


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Re: [expert] How to transfer from standard input to remotehost

2003-07-19 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:20, diego wrote:
 I know it exists cause I saw it somewhere, but where??
 
 I want something similar to ftp but accepting input file to transfer
 from standard input to be able to do something like:
 
 tar cz * | ftp remotehost
 
 
 Thanks

man ncftpput

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Re: [expert] How to configure fax4cups?

2003-07-19 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Jack

Tried that and still get the error.

Peter


On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:31, Jack Coates wrote:
 You probably haven't logged into the web interface (it'll let you look
 without logging in). Click Administration and log in as root.
 
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 00:59, Peter Stokes wrote:
  Hi All
  
  I have spent some reasonable time both trying and reading and cannot get
  fax4cups working for my hylafax install.
  
  Current status
  
  MDK 91
  Hylafax works 100% from such as KDEprintfax and sendfax etc
  CUPS works fine with my HPLJ2100
  The CUPS web interface also works fine
  
  So everything looks good to use fax4cups
  
  I have tried the mdk version on the install CD and the website tarball
  and followed the installation procedure, BUT
  
  When you try to create a printer with URI of hylafax:/local as per
  installation info I get a client-error-not-possible message, which I
  think means it cannot recognise the hylafax backend, anyone have clue
  what else I need to do to get it working?
  
  Thanks
  
  Peter
  
  Peter Stokes
  Ashlyn Computer Services Ltd
  Tel: +44 (0)1636-627900
  Mbl: +44 (0)7977-532320
  Fax: +44 (0)1636-627909
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] Make xconfig doesn't work in new kernel

2003-07-19 Thread Huw Blackwell
This patch fixes it: (I posted them on qa at 2003-06-18)

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=516action=view
- changes incorrect define_mbool = define_bool

and while you are at it ... get theese two also:


http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=517action=view
- removes menu duplicate (if ... fi) from drivers/char/drm/Config.in

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=518action=view
- remove duplicate 'source sound/usb/Config.in' in file
sound/Config.in


Regards

Thomas

I solved the problem by installing the tk/tcl rpm packages and xconfig
works. Maybe this should be a dependency for the kernel source?

This is for the standard kernel that comes with 9.1 (2.4.21-0.13mdk I
think...).

I've got the splash screen up and running (I left out initrd support)
but am pretty stumped by my power problem. Using the standard kernel,
on the command halt the computer shuts down and powers down. ACPI is
disabled in the bios and doesn't effect this behaviour (due to the
fact acpi doesn't work for my via chipset appollo 133 and 686a
southbridge) it still powers down. However in my beautfiul new
optimised slimmed down kernel (its been on the atkins diet) everything
works apart from the computer powering down. I even hear the HD spin
down, but no power off. It is obviously a missing module in the
kernel, but I haven't touched the standard advanced power management
options (turned off acpi support, also tried with it on, and still no
effect.). 

Under one kernel it works,

under the other it doesn't. 

Any clues you can give me for other modules required to allow apm to
turn off the computer? I can post the .config file as an email
attachment if you so wish.

Cheers

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Re: [expert] How to configure fax4cups?

2003-07-19 Thread Jack Coates
look in /var/log/cups for clues -- if there's nothing good, edit
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf and change the log level to debug, then do a
service cups restart and tail -f /var/log/cups/error.log

On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 09:10, Peter Stokes wrote:
 Hi Jack
 
 Tried that and still get the error.
 
 Peter
 
 
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:31, Jack Coates wrote:
  You probably haven't logged into the web interface (it'll let you look
  without logging in). Click Administration and log in as root.
  
  On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 00:59, Peter Stokes wrote:
   Hi All
   
   I have spent some reasonable time both trying and reading and cannot get
   fax4cups working for my hylafax install.
   
   Current status
   
   MDK 91
   Hylafax works 100% from such as KDEprintfax and sendfax etc
   CUPS works fine with my HPLJ2100
   The CUPS web interface also works fine
   
   So everything looks good to use fax4cups
   
   I have tried the mdk version on the install CD and the website tarball
   and followed the installation procedure, BUT
   
   When you try to create a printer with URI of hylafax:/local as per
   installation info I get a client-error-not-possible message, which I
   think means it cannot recognise the hylafax backend, anyone have clue
   what else I need to do to get it working?
   
   Thanks
   
   Peter
   
   Peter Stokes
   Ashlyn Computer Services Ltd
   Tel: +44 (0)1636-627900
   Mbl: +44 (0)7977-532320
   Fax: +44 (0)1636-627909
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [expert] I've lost the ability to make intrd.img's

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 20:15, James Sparenberg wrote:
 All,
 
Suddenly I can't make a viable initrd.img  I've removed and
 re-installed mkinitrd  ... but no change.  Here's the story.
 
 build 16mm with about 50% fewer modules, the ck2 patch and the win4lin
 patch.  All patches applied without a problem.  I'd previously built the
 16mm kernel etc and it works. 
 
 Do make mrproper, make xconfig, make dep, make bzImage, make clean, make
 modules, make modules_install, and make install.  Up to make install
 everything is without error.
 
 When I do the make install the last few lines are.
 
 sh -x ./install.sh 2.4.21-wflplus bzImage
 /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/System.map 
 + '[' -x /root/bin/installkernel ']'
 + '[' -x /sbin/installkernel ']'
 + exec /sbin/installkernel 2.4.21-wflplus bzImage
 /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/System.map ''
 mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the
 same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd
 you may go in trouble
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/arch/i386/boot'
 
 (Note the English above is as it appears Not my English)
 
 
 a check of /boot  and /etc/lilo.conf show that all is there (including
 the intrd.img.  And looks good.  lilo runs without problem.  
 
 Reboot and choose the new kernel.  It starts I see loading vmlinuz the
 screen goes blank and I return to the lilo page.  Ok.  I try to install
 18mdk from RPM.  Same exact result.  So I go into /boot move the img for
 a working 13mdk to the side and try to make an new image.  This returns
 no error.  run lilo and reboot to 13mdk  it does the same as the new
 kernel.  move the original intrd.img back and it now boots without a
 qualm.  Conclusion... I can't build an initrd.img.   Any thoughts here?
 
 Running MDK 9.1 fully upgraded. (except for the kernel I can't get to
 run.)
 
 James
 

H seems I've hit the great non-duplicable problem.  Bummer.  OK how
about this one.  Does anyone know of a way I could build the initrd on
another box, then move it over to this one?  

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[expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread |nSaNe



Hiya,

I have Internet connection sharing set up for my 
windows PC's and have recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 
lead to the mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow 
ports) however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my 
home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.

So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just 
add another nic to the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox 
live.

now my question is, when i set up internet 
connections sharing in mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia 
(i presume) the dhcp server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually 
set ip's on the xbox) to get this to work,

Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k 
server to this a few months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to 
do this in 2k server,but in linuxI am stuck, so if anyone can tell 
me how to get the second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even 
better the dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to 
you.

Thanks for reading

Lee Wilson


Nb.sorry if this has been sent twice, my ISP mail server is playing up and 
I am unsure if it went the first time.


Re: [expert] problem with filesystem check

2003-07-19 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, R N dev wrote:

  tune2fs -j /dev/hda5
 
 Can i do it without umounting my device? i read this before but i
 remenber someone who said to umount partition.

TTBOMK, you need for the partition to be unmounted when you do this.

Since it's your root filesystem, perhaps the best way to accomplish this 
is to boot to the rescue system on MDK CD #1 (by hitting F1 at the first 
splash screen, then typing rescue at the prompt), then choosing Go to 
console at the ensuing menu, and running this command from there.

Be aware that the true cause of the filesystem failing those periodic
checks has not yet been determined, and could well be due to one or more
of any number of factors, such as bad disks, bad or poorly connected
cabling, memory that is failing, or something else entirely. While this
may mask the symptoms of that problem, it doesn't really solve it.

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread Jim C
Help me out here guys. It seems to me that f you are running multiple 
cards from the dhcp server then the system will expect to treat each as 
a different subnet without running them all through a switch.

Hmmm... might it not also be possible that out there somewhere is an 
adapter that will plug ethernet into coax and/or vice versa?
Out here in the Spokane area we have a store called Bundles and More 
that does nothing but computer connectors and cables.  If I were looking 
for such an animal that is where I would start the hunt.

Hiya,

I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow ports) however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.

So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.

now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the dhcp server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's on the xbox) to get this to work,

Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even better the dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.
 





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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 19 July 2003 20:01, |nSaNe wrote:
 Hiya,

 I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have
 recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the
 mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow ports)
 however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my
 home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.

 So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to the
 linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.

 now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in mandrake
 it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the dhcp server,
 and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's on the xbox) to
 get this to work,

 Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few
 months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k
 server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the
 second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even better the
 dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.


 Thanks for reading

 Lee Wilson


 Nb.sorry if this has been sent twice, my ISP mail server is playing up and
 I am unsure if it went the first time.

Why not set the two nic's up on a different sub-net bridging them through the 
router?
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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread Jack Coates
this is a situation that the GUI builders didn't have resources to
account for, so the GUI doesn't help you do it. However, it's perfectly
do-able from the command line.

It sounds like you've already got the card working, so I'll skip that
part.

Then go to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and setup scripts for eth2,
copying eth1's for guidance.

Then edit /etc/dhcpd.conf and add the interface and range.

Then edit the files in /etc/shorewall/ and make sure the new subnet can
route xbox's traffic out.

On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 11:20, Jim C wrote:
 Help me out here guys. It seems to me that f you are running multiple 
 cards from the dhcp server then the system will expect to treat each as 
 a different subnet without running them all through a switch.
 
 Hmmm... might it not also be possible that out there somewhere is an 
 adapter that will plug ethernet into coax and/or vice versa?
 Out here in the Spokane area we have a store called Bundles and More 
 that does nothing but computer connectors and cables.  If I were looking 
 for such an animal that is where I would start the hunt.
 
 Hiya,
 
 I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have recently 
 brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the mandrake box it works 
 fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow ports) however as I am cheap and have 
 had the same network in place for years my home PC network is coax and therefore I 
 cant use this with my Xbox.
 
 So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to the linux 
 server and use hat to server for Xbox live.
 
 now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in mandrake it only 
 allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the dhcp server, and I need both 
 (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's on the xbox) to get this to work,
 
 Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few months ago 
 and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k server, but in linux 
 I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the second nic to work with 
 internet connection sharing (or even better the dhcp server to work also with it) I 
 would be in debt to you.
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread Frankie
well there are two easy answers here..

One I think someone has already mentioned..

have a 10base2 (coax) card and a 10/100baseT (cat5) card
in the linux box and use /etc/sysconfig/static-routes to
route between them.. (or just set them to the same subnet.)

or go and backup an old 10baseT hub.. most of them had a
coax
connector on the back for just this purpose.. (ebay would be
a good
place to start and you should be able to pick one up for
only a
couple of dollars.)

a third answer is to just get a 10 dollar cat5 card and some
cable
and throw out the coax,, its slow, it was never friendly. (I
used
to spend alot of time looking for bad terminators and stuff
on peoples
networks).


regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim C
Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2003 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?


Help me out here guys. It seems to me that f you are running
multiple
cards from the dhcp server then the system will expect to
treat each as
a different subnet without running them all through a
switch.

Hmmm... might it not also be possible that out there
somewhere is an
adapter that will plug ethernet into coax and/or vice versa?
Out here in the Spokane area we have a store called Bundles
and More
that does nothing but computer connectors and cables.  If I
were looking
for such an animal that is where I would start the hunt.

Hiya,

I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows
PC's and have recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a
dediacated cat5 lead to the mandrake box it works fine
(after editing shorewall rules to allow ports) however as I
am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my
home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with
my Xbox.

So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add
another nic to the linux server and use hat to server for
Xbox live.

now my question is, when i set up internet connections
sharing in mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for
usevia (i presume) the dhcp server, and I need both (or a
workaround as i can manually set ip's on the xbox) to get
this to work,

Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to
this a few months ago and have been happy so far, I would
know how to do this in 2k server, but in linux I am stuck,
so if anyone can tell me how to get the second nic to work
with internet connection sharing (or even better the dhcp
server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.








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Re: [expert] How to configure fax4cups (part solved)

2003-07-19 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Jack

Solved that one, in the hylfax backend the pointer to the sendfax etc
was /usr/sbin not /usr/local/sbin

See other post about next problem with text files.

Thanks

Peter

On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 18:47, Jack Coates wrote:
 look in /var/log/cups for clues -- if there's nothing good, edit
 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and change the log level to debug, then do a
 service cups restart and tail -f /var/log/cups/error.log
 
 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 09:10, Peter Stokes wrote:
  Hi Jack
  
  Tried that and still get the error.
  
  Peter
  
  
  On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:31, Jack Coates wrote:
   You probably haven't logged into the web interface (it'll let you look
   without logging in). Click Administration and log in as root.
   
   On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 00:59, Peter Stokes wrote:
Hi All

I have spent some reasonable time both trying and reading and cannot get
fax4cups working for my hylafax install.

Current status

MDK 91
Hylafax works 100% from such as KDEprintfax and sendfax etc
CUPS works fine with my HPLJ2100
The CUPS web interface also works fine

So everything looks good to use fax4cups

I have tried the mdk version on the install CD and the website tarball
and followed the installation procedure, BUT

When you try to create a printer with URI of hylafax:/local as per
installation info I get a client-error-not-possible message, which I
think means it cannot recognise the hylafax backend, anyone have clue
what else I need to do to get it working?

Thanks

Peter

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread |nSaNe
HIya,

Thanks for the detailed replys, I m just about to start on this and
hopefully it wnt keep me up all night.

As to replacing the network ect... I agree that would be the ideal option,
however I am just about to start moving house so cash is tight at the
moment, so originally i did plan to buy a load of new cards and a hub and
eplace the whole thing, however with plans changing its really not a option
at the moment, however it will happen in the (hopefully) not to distant
future.

my network configuration was mentioned, and as I hope to only be doing this
once and I dont want to make a complete mess of it, Could I ask for anyones
advice on what they would consider the best way to configure this ?


I know Internet connections haring as default sets eth0 to

IP = 192.168.1.1
Subnet 255.255.255.0

and s of yet i have been playing about with eth1 on 10.10.1.1 with the same
subnet, hopeing in vein to be able to manually set up the xbox with a
statiuc ip (10.10.1.2) and being able to route it using 10.10.1.1 as a
gateway, but it didnt work.

I am going to look at whats been sugested, and hopefully it will work, but
if there is a optimal setting for this or a setting you would reccomend for
the network cards it would be a great help.


Thanks again with the help so far.

Lee Wilson.





- Original Message - 
From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?


 this is a situation that the GUI builders didn't have resources to
 account for, so the GUI doesn't help you do it. However, it's perfectly
 do-able from the command line.

 It sounds like you've already got the card working, so I'll skip that
 part.

 Then go to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and setup scripts for eth2,
 copying eth1's for guidance.

 Then edit /etc/dhcpd.conf and add the interface and range.

 Then edit the files in /etc/shorewall/ and make sure the new subnet can
 route xbox's traffic out.

 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 11:20, Jim C wrote:
  Help me out here guys. It seems to me that f you are running multiple
  cards from the dhcp server then the system will expect to treat each as
  a different subnet without running them all through a switch.
 
  Hmmm... might it not also be possible that out there somewhere is an
  adapter that will plug ethernet into coax and/or vice versa?
  Out here in the Spokane area we have a store called Bundles and More
  that does nothing but computer connectors and cables.  If I were looking
  for such an animal that is where I would start the hunt.
 
  Hiya,
  
  I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have
recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the
mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow ports)
however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my
home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.
  
  So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to
the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.
  
  now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in
mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the dhcp
server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's on the
xbox) to get this to work,
  
  Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few
months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k
server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the
second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even better the dhcp
server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] How to transfer from standard input to remotehost

2003-07-19 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 11:08, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:20, diego wrote:
  I want something similar to ftp but accepting input file to transfer
  from standard input to be able to do something like:
  
  tar cz * | ftp remotehost
 
 man ncftpput
 
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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 11:01, |nSaNe wrote:
 Hiya,
  
 I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have
 recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the
 mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow
 ports) however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place
 for years my home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this
 with my Xbox.
  
 So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to
 the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.
  
 now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in
 mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume)
 the dhcp server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually
 set ip's on the xbox) to get this to work,
  
 Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few
 months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in
 2k server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to
 get the second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even
 better the dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to
 you.
  
 Thanks for reading
  
 Lee Wilson

Lee,

  Perhaps easier method would be to find one of the older hubs that had
both a cable and cat 5 connectors. (Usually found in the junk stores
and swap meets for around 5 bucks to a dollar US.)  Then hook the coax
cable up to, then plug in the Xbox to it with a short cat 5.  They
usually only operate at 10mbs and they are passive hubs.  But it does
work.. (I've done it before.) 

James

  
  
 Nb.sorry if this has been sent twice, my ISP mail server is playing up
 and I am unsure if it went the first time.


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Re: [expert] problem with filesystem check

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 11:06, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, R N dev wrote:
 
   tune2fs -j /dev/hda5
  
  Can i do it without umounting my device? i read this before but i
  remenber someone who said to umount partition.
 
 TTBOMK, you need for the partition to be unmounted when you do this.
 
 Since it's your root filesystem, perhaps the best way to accomplish this 
 is to boot to the rescue system on MDK CD #1 (by hitting F1 at the first 
 splash screen, then typing rescue at the prompt), then choosing Go to 
 console at the ensuing menu, and running this command from there.
 
 Be aware that the true cause of the filesystem failing those periodic
 checks has not yet been determined, and could well be due to one or more
 of any number of factors, such as bad disks, bad or poorly connected
 cabling, memory that is failing, or something else entirely. While this
 may mask the symptoms of that problem, it doesn't really solve it. 

Agreed.  One question here would be.  Every time it does the fsck does
it fix the same problem.  This would be an indicator of pending disk
failure.

James



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Re: [expert] I've lost the ability to make intrd.img's

2003-07-19 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3608 days James Sparenberg wrote:

 H seems I've hit the great non-duplicable problem.  Bummer.  OK how
 about this one.  Does anyone know of a way I could build the initrd on
 another box, then move it over to this one?  

  Can't be done, AFAIK. Have you checked to make sure loop module is
  loaded? if it isn't loaded, mkinitrd won't work. Try modprob'ing
  loop and then try mkinitrd again, see if that works.

  Vox

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Re: [expert] I've lost the ability to make intrd.img's

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:11, Vox wrote:
 On September 1993 plus 3608 days James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  H seems I've hit the great non-duplicable problem.  Bummer.  OK how
  about this one.  Does anyone know of a way I could build the initrd on
  another box, then move it over to this one?  
 
   Can't be done, AFAIK. Have you checked to make sure loop module is
   loaded? if it isn't loaded, mkinitrd won't work. Try modprob'ing
   loop and then try mkinitrd again, see if that works.
 
   Vox

inirds get built but not working ones... hm let me try it and see
what happens.  loop module might have gotten hosed when I was trying to
something...

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Re: [expert] I've lost the ability to make intrd.img's

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:26, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 14:11, Vox wrote:
  On September 1993 plus 3608 days James Sparenberg wrote:
  
   H seems I've hit the great non-duplicable problem.  Bummer.  OK how
   about this one.  Does anyone know of a way I could build the initrd on
   another box, then move it over to this one?  
  
Can't be done, AFAIK. Have you checked to make sure loop module is
loaded? if it isn't loaded, mkinitrd won't work. Try modprob'ing
loop and then try mkinitrd again, see if that works.
  
Vox
 
 inirds get built but not working ones... hm let me try it and see
 what happens.  loop module might have gotten hosed when I was trying to
 something...
 
 James

2 things 1.  it wasn't loaded so I did modprobe loop... now it is. 
Second.  it had no affect on the mkinitrd. same error. ugh.  Guess
I'm stuck with 13mdk or . reloading from scratch... (nah stick with
13mdk)

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Re: [expert] How to configure fax4cups? - Part Solved

2003-07-19 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
On Saturday 19 July 2003 03:41 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
 Hi Glenn

 Thanks for that, it was the ref's to sendfax in the script which was
 incorrect.

 I had tried to use the MDK 9.1 versions and the later download of 1.23.
 I have also had both the MDK 9.1 of hylafax and the latest download of
 the tarball, shame that the script does not say 'I cannot find
 sendfax...', but there we have it.


Agreed.  You might send a note to Sebastiano Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about it.  I've been working on my own version of the backend script, and I've 
changed the first part to:

if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then
for i in $FAXPRG $FAXGUI $FAXSTAT ; do 
if [ ! -x $i ]; then 
echo ERROR: can't find Hylafax program $i 12
exit 0; 
fi
done
echo direct hylafax:/local \Unknown\ \Local HylaFAX server\
exit 0
fi

so the error gets logged, at least.

 Now onto next problem. I can send a PS file using

 lpr -Phylafax -J number ./testprint.ps

 works fine

 if however I try

 lpr -Phylafax -J number /etc/hosts

 I get tons of blank pages created to send (approx 30)

 I thought that CUPS was supposed to sort out the conversion of simple
 text files to whatever format is required?

 Peter

It should convert the text file.  I'll have to try it.  I seem to remember 
this problem, but I can't remember if I resolved it or left it on the 'todo' 
list.  There have been problems in the Hylafax 'textfmt' function, but I'm 
not sure if the hylafax.ppd says to convert to Postscript before passing the 
file onto Hylafax.


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[expert] well I'm back again

2003-07-19 Thread dfox

Well, had some installation headaches in 9.1 but I managed to get some 
good help from James Sparenburg (hi James!).

I'm running off of 9.1 and urpmi'ing a whole bunch of stuff. Anyway my
real question now is k3b. The older k3b in 9.0 wasn't too terribly 
functional. (I have tried gcombust with some success.) For now k3b in 9.1 
seems better, but still I am missing a number of recommended programs - 
things like transcode, tccat, tcdecode, stuff like that. I tried urpmi on 
them, no lock, none of the packages show up (except for normalize, which 
is installed).

I'm still attempting to make a music cd from a number of MP3s, but that's 
not working as well as I'd hoped. Singles seem fine; I burned a couple 
last night, using mpg123. I think my trouble is in getting mpg123 working 
inside a shell loop. I had converted a number of mp3s to what I thought 
were wav's but gcombust/cdrecord won't recognize them as such. That was 
with the stuff in 9.0, maybe things are better in 9.1.






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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi There,

I would just make shure both network cards work, define a bridged interface 
that will bridge both NIC's together. The only thing you'll have to take care 
of is that instead of ethX you'll have brX.
Use the bridge-utils for that purpose. Pretty easy to install - once you 
understood the logic behind it.

Cheers

Joerg

 On Saturday 19 July 2003 20:01, |nSaNe wrote:
  Hiya,
 
  I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have
  recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the
  mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow ports)
  however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years my
  home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.
 
  So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to
  the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.
 
  now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in
  mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the
  dhcp server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's
  on the xbox) to get this to work,
 
  Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few
  months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k
  server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the
  second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even better the
  dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.


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Re: [expert] well I'm back again

2003-07-19 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, dfox wrote:

 Well, had some installation headaches in 9.1 but I managed to get some
 good help from James Sparenburg (hi James!).
 
 I'm running off of 9.1 and urpmi'ing a whole bunch of stuff. Anyway my
 real question now is k3b. The older k3b in 9.0 wasn't too terribly
 functional. (I have tried gcombust with some success.) For now k3b in
 9.1 seems better, but still I am missing a number of recommended
 programs - things like transcode, tccat, tcdecode, stuff like that. I
 tried urpmi on them, no lock, none of the packages show up (except for
 normalize, which is installed).

You need to get transcode (which includes tccat and tcdecode) from PLF.

Set up a urpmi source for them with the procedure at this page:

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon

Set up contrib and updates sources while you're there; should you want
the latest KDE and Gaim packages, along with several other nice ones, do a
texstar one as well. Welcome back! :)

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread |nSaNe
Hmmm cheers for the info on bridge-utils,

I am going to check it out, but fromw hat i have read on its site it sounds
ideal.


- Original Message - 
From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?


Hi There,

I would just make shure both network cards work, define a bridged interface
that will bridge both NIC's together. The only thing you'll have to take
care
of is that instead of ethX you'll have brX.
Use the bridge-utils for that purpose. Pretty easy to install - once you
understood the logic behind it.

Cheers

Joerg

 On Saturday 19 July 2003 20:01, |nSaNe wrote:
  Hiya,
 
  I have Internet connection sharing set up for my windows PC's and have
  recently brought Xbox live, now if i use a dediacated cat5 lead to the
  mandrake box it works fine (after editing shorewall rules to allow
ports)
  however as I am cheap and have had the same network in place for years
my
  home PC network is coax and therefore I cant use this with my Xbox.
 
  So i thought it would be easier and cheaper to just add another nic to
  the linux server and use hat to server for Xbox live.
 
  now my question is, when i set up internet connections sharing in
  mandrake it only allows me to select one nic for usevia (i presume) the
  dhcp server, and I need both (or a workaround as i can manually set ip's
  on the xbox) to get this to work,
 
  Any help would be apreciated, i changed from a 2k server to this a few
  months ago and have been happy so far, I would know how to do this in 2k
  server, but in linux I am stuck, so if anyone can tell me how to get the
  second nic to work with internet connection sharing (or even better the
  dhcp server to work also with it) I would be in debt to you.


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Re: [expert] Connection sharing and 2 Nics ?

2003-07-19 Thread Jim C


Lee,

 Perhaps easier method would be to find one of the older hubs that had
both a cable and cat 5 connectors. (Usually found in the junk stores
and swap meets for around 5 bucks to a dollar US.)  Then hook the coax
cable up to, then plug in the Xbox to it with a short cat 5.  They
usually only operate at 10mbs and they are passive hubs.  But it does
work.. (I've done it before.) 

James
 

If you go this route, don't forget to check and see if the Xbox is 
backward compatible to 10mbs.   It's new stuff with a narrow target 
market so it could very well be that the designers never expected it to 
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Re: [expert] well I'm back again

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 08:44, dfox wrote:
 Well, had some installation headaches in 9.1 but I managed to get some 
 good help from James Sparenburg (hi James!).
 
 I'm running off of 9.1 and urpmi'ing a whole bunch of stuff. Anyway my
 real question now is k3b. The older k3b in 9.0 wasn't too terribly 
 functional. (I have tried gcombust with some success.) For now k3b in 9.1 
 seems better, but still I am missing a number of recommended programs - 
 things like transcode, tccat, tcdecode, stuff like that. I tried urpmi on 
 them, no lock, none of the packages show up (except for normalize, which 
 is installed).

they are in the transcode rpm from PLF ...
 
 I'm still attempting to make a music cd from a number of MP3s, but that's 
 not working as well as I'd hoped. Singles seem fine; I burned a couple 
 last night, using mpg123. I think my trouble is in getting mpg123 working 
 inside a shell loop. I had converted a number of mp3s to what I thought 
 were wav's but gcombust/cdrecord won't recognize them as such. That was 
 with the stuff in 9.0, maybe things are better in 9.1.
 
 
 
 
 


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[expert] profile switching

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
Ok,
   Miracles do happen..  I've got wireless working flawlessly on my
laptop.  (one letter change in the config file to reflect a different
model of my card uggh.)  Now I need to know one thing.  Has anyone found
a program that will allow you to create/switch profiles on the fly. 
Right now I have 3 ifcfg files that a bash script switches and restarts
pcmcia to get me on one of the nets (home office and generic with no
wepkey) If it's really this simple why are all of the profile programs
I've found requiring me to hold one leg out the window with my tongue on
the right side of my mouth holding down ctrl-alt-delete and 156 entries
in various files to modify lilo on the fly. (ok I exaggerate a bit.) 

Is there a simple program that lets me create and switch profiles? 
Winders can do it and dang it I want to be able to as well. (without btw
rebooting!)

James
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[expert] no USB mouse in 9.1

2003-07-19 Thread Jeremy Gregorio
   I've got an nforce2 board (Asus A7N8X) and a Microsoft optical usb 
mouse.  My mouse config:

Section InputDevice
   Identifier Mouse1
   Driver mouse
   Option Protocol IMPS/2
   Option Device /dev/usbmouse
   Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
The usbmouse modules wasn't loaded, but I loaded it and restarted X with 
no luck. Also tried it with /dev/input/mouse. The mouse worked fine 
during the install (and in Redhat 9.0). The kernel that comes with 
Mandrake is new enough it should have support for the usb chipset, but I 
could be wrong (redhat often back ports stuff from new kernels after 
all). Anyone know the fix? TIA :).

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Re: [expert] problem with filesystem check

2003-07-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:06 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, R N dev wrote:
   tune2fs -j /dev/hda5
 
  Can i do it without umounting my device? i read this before but i
  remenber someone who said to umount partition.

 TTBOMK, you need for the partition to be unmounted when you do this.

 Since it's your root filesystem, perhaps the best way to accomplish this
 is to boot to the rescue system on MDK CD #1 (by hitting F1 at the first
 splash screen, then typing rescue at the prompt), then choosing Go to
 console at the ensuing menu, and running this command from there.

 Be aware that the true cause of the filesystem failing those periodic
 checks has not yet been determined, and could well be due to one or more
 of any number of factors, such as bad disks, bad or poorly connected
 cabling, memory that is failing, or something else entirely. While this
 may mask the symptoms of that problem, it doesn't really solve it.

Angelo:
Do what Bill said. I got a little quick with my first posting. My case was a 
little different from your's: Somehow my 9.1 installation ended up with ext3 
on /, but ext2 on /usr and /home. Since running an unjournalled filesystem 
during thunderstorm season is Not a Good Idea (TM), I converted /usr and 
/home as described earlier -- tune2fs -j /hdbx, edit fstab. Everything is 
working just fine. Also, I rebooted after making the changes. (Yeah, I know 
that's windowsey, but I'd rather learn that the system has become unbootable 
now than a few days down the road.)

Bill:
I've noticed is that the maximum mount counts for the / partition are set to 
-1 (never do a filecheck), but for two partitions that were converted to ext3 
have maximum mount counts of 21 and 29 (one will be checked every 21st boot, 
the other every 29th boot). Should these be reset to -1? Or does that depend 
upon my paranoia level?
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Re: [expert] no USB mouse in 9.1

2003-07-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:25 pm, Jeremy Gregorio wrote:
 I've got an nforce2 board (Asus A7N8X) and a Microsoft optical usb
 mouse.  My mouse config:

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse1
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol IMPS/2
 Option Device /dev/usbmouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
 EndSection

 The usbmouse modules wasn't loaded, but I loaded it and restarted X with
 no luck. Also tried it with /dev/input/mouse. The mouse worked fine
 during the install (and in Redhat 9.0). The kernel that comes with
 Mandrake is new enough it should have support for the usb chipset, but I
 could be wrong (redhat often back ports stuff from new kernels after
 all). Anyone know the fix? TIA :).

 Jeremy Gregorio

What is the chipset on your motherboard?  It could be poor apic support.  Try 
starting the kernel with the noapic boot paramter.  See here for more info

http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2459lang=en
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[expert] ls

2003-07-19 Thread charlie
Using ls in konsole or XTerm, I sometimes get the following message :-

ls: .: stale NFS file handle

Can someone tell me what this means?

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Re: [expert] ls

2003-07-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 16:03, charlie wrote:
 Using ls in konsole or XTerm, I sometimes get the following message :-
 
 ls: .: stale NFS file handle
 
 Can someone tell me what this means?
 
 Charlie

AFAIK it's actually saying that an NFS mount is trying to find a file
that has been moved or removed on the distant end and no longer viable. 
If you don't use NFS removing the rpms for it would probably prevent it
from re-occuring.  If you do, sounds like one of your mounts is getting
changed by another user and affecting you.  I did notice that around
2.4.19 they were working on this in the kernel...  Here is a link to
some of that info.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02521.html

James



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