Re: [expert] Write to ext3 data partition

2003-07-30 Thread charlie
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:22 pm, Anne Wilson wholly or partly mentioned :-
  /dev/hda6 /mnt/slack ext3 defaults 0 2

 /dev/hde7 / ext3 defaults 1 1
 /dev/hdf1 /mnt/Mdk9_0 ext3 user,defaults 1 2

 is from my fstab.
 snip

Thanks Anne,
The Slackware partition boots through Mandrake and is not a 
problem. I 
expect it to mount as root, and actually prefer it that way. It is the other 
two that won't allow me to read or write anything to them. But will 
experiment some more. Getting this organised and learning how it works will 
just keep me a little longer from an all Linux native box. Though I can 
format them as FAT32 it isn't really what I want.Like everything a little 
more time and perseverance. 

I will also do as James suggested and experiment with setuid. 

It is all interesting, and just when I thought that I had sufficient knowledge 
to go all Linux? It must be a bit like humility, once you think you have it, 
you have lost it.

Charlie.

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread charlie
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:50 am, Jan Wilson wholly or partly mentioned :-
 hdf is the old drive, and to be ignored.  Only half of hde is
 partitioned and used at present.

I think it is an 80GB drive Jan, according to the above.

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[expert] Question on kernels and Mach64

2003-07-30 Thread James Sparenberg
I've a question that I would guess is for Thomas Juan or Vincent.  But
if anyone knows the answer I'd like to know it.  

Just for fun I've been playing around with the video drivers for the
chipset on my laptop.  Rage-Mobility M/P AGP 2x   Now this used to be
supported with hardware 3D... So I've been kinda wondering why it
doesn't work anymore.  So looking at /var/log/XFree86.0.log I noticed
that it was trying to load drm and dri but. it couldn't because
kernel module mach64 wasn't available.  

[drm] failed to load kernel module mach64


Thinking that I'd screwed up I started looking and noticed that sure
enough the code is in the kernel source (currently 25mdk) but that there
is no mention in my .config of mach64 nor in the config file from MDK. 
make xconfig nor make menuconfig offer any way I can see to make the
module either.  

What I was wondering is.  Has this been removed from being built
intentionally?  Or is something else missing that I am not bright enough
to see?  Finally anyone know how to enable the building of this module?

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 1:57 am, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 11:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 4:50 pm, Jan Wilson wrote:
   * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030729 09:20]:
I was shocked to realise that my / is running out of space. 
My current situation is
   
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hde7 5.9G  5.3G  288M  95% /
/dev/hde5 5.9G  2.7G  3.3G  46% /Data
/dev/hde6 5.7G  452M  5.3G   8% /Graphics
/dev/hde81012M  7.7M  953M   1% /boot
/dev/hde105.8G   33M  5.5G   1% /holding
/dev/hde9 9.7G  4.5G  5.3G  47% /home
/dev/hdf1 5.3G  3.3G  1.8G  65% /mnt/Mdk9_0
/dev/hdf6 3.9G  2.2G  1.7G  57% /mnt/OldData
/dev/hdf7 6.7G  5.0G  1.7G  75% /mnt/OldHome
/dev/hde1 3.9G  1.8G  2.2G  46% /mnt/windows

 ...

 looking at this more closely, what I would do is:

 telinit 1
 cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 umount /holding
 vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 mount /usr
 telinit 5

 Then see if everything still works. If it does,

 telinit 1
 umount /usr
 rm -rf /usr/*
 mount /usr
 telinit 5

holding is slightly smaller than /, but I could make a new partition, 
say 10GB and then do something similar.

Anne

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Re: [expert] samba probs again

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 02:29, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 15:21, Richard Bown wrote:
  Hi James
  You were right something was using the port.
  
Well for the moment there's no contention for smbd , but nmbd is still
producing

Jul 30 09:23:23 gb7tf nmbd[5254]: [2003/07/30 09:23:23, 0]
libsmb/nmblib.c:send_udp(756)
Jul 30 09:23:23 gb7tf nmbd[5254]:   Packet send failed to
192.168.1.255(138) ERR NO=Operation not permitted

AS pointed out by Todd the strace I provided forked and the forked
process was'nt shown.
So I've used strace -f nmbd -D and it big and its stuck in a loop.
Next step try to redirect the output straight to a file
ie. strace -f nmbd -D  {filename}
checked the file content and nothing.
so checked the sysntax with ls -l  fred
This worked !

I'm getting mega confused here.

To make matters worse I've notice ntpd failed to send to an address with
the same error 
ERR NO=Operation not permitted
If shorewall is stoppped the same happens, msec is set to high

Have I run foul of msec ???

Ideas please

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

 On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 1:57 am, Jack Coates wrote:
* Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030729 09:20]:
 I was shocked to realise that my / is running out of space. 
 My current situation is

 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hde7 5.9G  5.3G  288M  95% /
 /dev/hde5 5.9G  2.7G  3.3G  46% /Data
 /dev/hde6 5.7G  452M  5.3G   8% /Graphics
 /dev/hde81012M  7.7M  953M   1% /boot
 /dev/hde105.8G   33M  5.5G   1% /holding
 /dev/hde9 9.7G  4.5G  5.3G  47% /home
 /dev/hdf1 5.3G  3.3G  1.8G  65% /mnt/Mdk9_0
 /dev/hdf6 3.9G  2.2G  1.7G  57% /mnt/OldData
 /dev/hdf7 6.7G  5.0G  1.7G  75% /mnt/OldHome
 /dev/hde1 3.9G  1.8G  2.2G  46% /mnt/windows
 
  ...
 
  looking at this more closely, what I would do is:

This is /exactly/ how I'd do it as well. I'll just expand on a few 
details of Jack's excellent methodology, for clarity's sake.

  telinit 1
  cp -a /usr/* /holding/
  umount /holding
  vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
  mount /usr

Note that this mounts your new copy of /usr right over the old one; the
original files still exist and occupy space in /, but are now hidden. Only
the new copies (on the former /holding partition) are seen and used by the
system. The originals are still there, should you need to revert to them.

  telinit 5
 
  Then see if everything still works. If it does,
 
  telinit 1
  umount /usr

This unhides the original files in the old /usr.

  rm -rf /usr/*

This removes the old copies of the original /usr files, leaving the /usr
directory empty, and now merely a mount point.

  mount /usr
  telinit 5
 
 holding is slightly smaller than /, but I could make a new partition,
 say 10GB and then do something similar.

Your /holding partition is already an excellent size for /usr - you don't
need 10G for that. And once /usr is out of /, you'll have plenty of room
there, too. I'd save any new partitions for data or other distros;  /usr
doesn't grow all that much, really - I'll bet that it's about 4G now, and
that's a fairly fully loaded /usr. Just MHO.

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Re: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-30 Thread Sevatio
thanks, but that still doesn't work.  Something tells me that I need to 
do a fresh install of LM9.1 instead of upgrading from LM9.0 to LM9.1.  I 
just can't think of anything else that could be the problem.

JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
Here's my .vnc/xstartup file. It launches KDE in the background

#!/bin/sh

# Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc KDE
-Original Message-
From: Sevatio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1
How do I get my vncserver on Mandrake 9.1 to display something other 
than a gray screen with an x mouse cursor?  I've already done the qt3 
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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 9:56 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
   looking at this more closely, what I would do is:

 This is /exactly/ how I'd do it as well. I'll just expand on a few
 details of Jack's excellent methodology, for clarity's sake.

   telinit 1
   cp -a /usr/* /holding/
   umount /holding
   vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
   mount /usr

 Note that this mounts your new copy of /usr right over the old
 one; the original files still exist and occupy space in /, but are
 now hidden. Only the new copies (on the former /holding partition)
 are seen and used by the system. The originals are still there,
 should you need to revert to them.

   telinit 5
  
   Then see if everything still works. If it does,
  
   telinit 1
   umount /usr

 This unhides the original files in the old /usr.

   rm -rf /usr/*

 This removes the old copies of the original /usr files, leaving the
 /usr directory empty, and now merely a mount point.

   mount /usr
   telinit 5
 
  holding is slightly smaller than /, but I could make a new
  partition, say 10GB and then do something similar.

 Your /holding partition is already an excellent size for /usr - you
 don't need 10G for that. And once /usr is out of /, you'll have
 plenty of room there, too. I'd save any new partitions for data or
 other distros;  /usr doesn't grow all that much, really - I'll bet
 that it's about 4G now, and that's a fairly fully loaded /usr. Just
 MHO.

Thanks for the clarification, Bill.  Forget the remark about the 10G 
size - it was too early in the morning for the grey cells to be fully 
operational g  I cleared out everything I was certain I didn't 
need, to avoid that 95% full being even high, giving me time to work 
out a strategy.  /usr is 1.7G at the moment, so that would give me 
around 2G free space on /, which should be enough, I think.

I like this solution, because it seems to me that I get the chance to 
test everything out for a day or more before having to actually 
remove anything.

If I understand you, when I mount the new /usr, the directory /usr 
under / will be ignored (after a reboot?).  But then when I remove 
the /usr directory, the system will temporarily not be able to see 
any /usr until I remount the new one.  Right?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

 If I understand you, when I mount the new /usr, the directory /usr under
 / will be ignored (after a reboot?).  But then when I remove the /usr
 directory, the system will temporarily not be able to see any /usr until
 I remount the new one.  Right?

No rebooting necessary (remember, you did a telinit 1 to start off with,
and are in single-user mode here). Once you mount the new /usr partition
over the old /usr directory, the files which are still in that directory
are no longer visible to the system. As Jack said, you would then issue 
telinit 5 to return to run level 5 and test everything out.

When you're ready to delete the old files, you just return to run level 1
(where /usr is not in use, when you're merely sitting at the bash prompt),
unmount the new /usr partition, clean out the old /usr dir that was
beneath it, and remount the new /usr. You will then return, once and
for all, to run level 5 with telinit 5. And yes, for a second or two
there you will have no /usr mounted, but that's not a problem at all if
you follow those steps exactly as Jack wrote them; the only command you're 
running with an empty /usr directory is mount, and it lives in /bin. :)

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

 Thanks, Bill.  I'm a belt, braces and piece of string person.  I do need
 to have it spelled out really clearly if I feel that there's risk
 involved g I'd never make a gambler.

Good! The better sysadmins rarely gamble, if they can help it. ;)

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 12:12 pm, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
  If I understand you, when I mount the new /usr, the directory
  /usr under / will be ignored (after a reboot?).  But then when I
  remove the /usr directory, the system will temporarily not be
  able to see any /usr until I remount the new one.  Right?

 No rebooting necessary (remember, you did a telinit 1 to start
 off with, and are in single-user mode here). Once you mount the
 new /usr partition over the old /usr directory, the files which
 are still in that directory are no longer visible to the system. As
 Jack said, you would then issue telinit 5 to return to run level
 5 and test everything out.

 When you're ready to delete the old files, you just return to run
 level 1 (where /usr is not in use, when you're merely sitting at
 the bash prompt), unmount the new /usr partition, clean out the
 old /usr dir that was beneath it, and remount the new /usr.
 You will then return, once and for all, to run level 5 with
 telinit 5. And yes, for a second or two there you will have no
 /usr mounted, but that's not a problem at all if you follow those
 steps exactly as Jack wrote them; the only command you're running
 with an empty /usr directory is mount, and it lives in /bin. :)

Thanks, Bill.  I'm a belt, braces and piece of string person.  I do 
need to have it spelled out really clearly if I feel that there's 
risk involved g  I'd never make a gambler.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Michael Adams

Anne, is var/ on / ? 

Why i ask, is because var is a culprit likely to grow if not treated right.
- If you turn your comp off overnight you need anacron installed to clean out 
/var/log/ files else they just keep on growing like topsy. (cron runs logrotate at 
about 4am IIRC).
- apache html files may be stored there (depends on OS version). A site growing as you 
add html and its pics means var grows.
- mail and news may be stored in var/

IMHO usr/ grows very slowly... ie only as you install new software.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:37:21 -0400 (EDT)
Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  Thanks, Bill.  I'm a belt, braces and piece of string person.  I do need
  to have it spelled out really clearly if I feel that there's risk
  involved g I'd never make a gambler.
 
 Good! The better sysadmins rarely gamble, if they can help it. ;)
 
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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
Hi, Michael.  /var is on /, but it's only 276 MB.  I rarely turn the 
computer off, so the housekeeping is done regularly.  Thanks for the 
thought, though

Anne

On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 1:22 pm, Michael Adams wrote:
 Anne, is var/ on / ?

 Why i ask, is because var is a culprit likely to grow if not
 treated right. - If you turn your comp off overnight you need
 anacron installed to clean out /var/log/ files else they just keep
 on growing like topsy. (cron runs logrotate at about 4am IIRC). -
 apache html files may be stored there (depends on OS version). A
 site growing as you add html and its pics means var grows. - mail
 and news may be stored in var/

 IMHO usr/ grows very slowly... ie only as you install new software.

 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:37:21 -0400 (EDT)

 Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Thanks, Bill.  I'm a belt, braces and piece of string person. 
   I do need to have it spelled out really clearly if I feel that
   there's risk involved g I'd never make a gambler.
 
  Good! The better sysadmins rarely gamble, if they can help it. ;)
 
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Re: [expert] partly OT: Soyo + Barton + 8x : boot problem

2003-07-30 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 19.31 21/07/2003, you wrote:
i have no problem running the mobo at FSB 133 , but at FSB 166
-- which the mobo is advertised to support -- it's not at all reliable.
first, it doesn't recognise the CPU in its default setting,
but thinks it's a 1900+ running at 1467 MHz ; more seriously,
if i try manually setting the FSB to 166 with appropriate other settings,
it boots ok 1 - 3 times, then fails to talk to the AGP card:
there's a long-short-short beep signalling this  then Linux boots invisibly,
as i can see  hear from the HDD activity  fr using Ctl-Alt-Del to reset.
Try to check in the manual what that signal means, then ask for replacement :-)
Probably it depends on the video card, the mobo could be fine. Have you 
tried to lower the AGP speed to 4x? (if possible, I once saw a mobo where 
you could force the agp to run at 2x instead of 4x). You won't notice any 
performace hit, agp 8x only gives troubles.

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[expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Lawson, Jim
Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD. I
Have looked on the seb and could not find any information... 


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Re: [expert] samba probs again

2003-07-30 Thread J.C. Woods
Richard Bown wrote:

Thanks James,

log.smbd showed this:-

[2003/07/29 19:32:47, 0] smbd/server.c:main(707)
 smbd version 2.2.7a-security-rollup-fix started.
 Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2002
[2003/07/29 19:32:47, 0] smbd/server.c:main(751)
 standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option
[2003/07/29 19:32:47, 0] lib/util_sock.c:open_socket_in(804)
 bind failed on port 139 socket_addr = 0.0.0.0.
 Error = Address already in use
the other 2 log files I cant find, probably log.smbmount has'nt been
created yet. syslog is just showing the nmbd entry as poster earlier.
I've looked in all the other log files and cant see anything related to
smbd
Not alot to yer teeth into
Richard
 

Not sure what your other problems may be but your log is telling you 
that samba can not bind to port 139. Samba needs to bind the service 
netbios-ssn to this 139 port.  The entry in your log is telling you 
that the port is already in use. Run a lsof -i :139 to see what 
service is using this port. This will give you a starting place for 
troubleshooting.

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Re: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
Why replace the whole OS to fix one relatively minor subsystem? A safer
way to the same result might be this one-liner:

for i in `rpm -qa | grep vnc`; do rpm -qc $i; done

Then go look at the files that are listed -- particularly looking for
*.rpmnew or *.~.

Another option is to urpme all your vnc packages, rename or delete any
vnc config in /etc or your home directory, then urpmi the vnc packages
you want.

Jack

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 01:50, Sevatio wrote:
 thanks, but that still doesn't work.  Something tells me that I need to 
 do a fresh install of LM9.1 instead of upgrading from LM9.0 to LM9.1.  I 
 just can't think of anything else that could be the problem.
 
 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  Here's my .vnc/xstartup file. It launches KDE in the background
  
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  # Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
  exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc KDE
  
  
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  From: Sevatio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1
  
  
  How do I get my vncserver on Mandrake 9.1 to display something other 
  than a gray screen with an x mouse cursor?  I've already done the qt3 
  updates.
  
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] samba probs again

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Bown
Thanks everyone who offered help and assistance.
I've found the reason why smbd would'nt 

Vmware also want to be a smb server

the reason nmbd was stuck in a loop

Jul 30 09:23:23 gb7tf nmbd[5254]: [2003/07/30 09:23:23, 0]
libsmb/nmblib.c:send_udp(756)
Jul 30 09:23:23 gb7tf nmbd[5254]:   Packet send failed to
192.168.1.255(138) ERR NO=Operation not permitted

This believe or not was shorewall, added the rule to accept all from
local to fw and it worked.
Now I've recently moved from bastille to shorewall, the later being
slightly easier to setup. BUT there is a major difference between them.
If you stop bastille it leaves the system open, shorewall dos'nt seem to
do this..

There is still 1 problem left, I cant set the samba password

smbpasswd has root RW, and the file is there.But if I try to change it
this happens

[EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# smbpasswd richard
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
getsmbfilepwent: malformed password entry (no terminating :)
Failed to find entry for user richard.
Failed to modify password entry for user richard

ideas /pointers  pleeease

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Re: [expert] (OT) Linux World

2003-07-30 Thread Tru64 User
Are you saying you are going?
. Just curious.

Richard

--- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All,
Yes this is sorta off topic... but, it's also the
 only way I can
 ask.  Who here is going to be going to Linux World
 in San Fran in a
 couple of weeks?   Just curious.  
 
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Re: [expert] samba probs again

2003-07-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# smbpasswd richard
 New SMB password:
 Retype new SMB password:
 getsmbfilepwent: malformed password entry (no terminating :)
 Failed to find entry for user richard.
 Failed to modify password entry for user richard
 
 ideas /pointers  pleeease
 

You need -a for add ('man smbpasswd' is your frien)
So:

#smbpasswd -a richard

will do what you want...

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Re: [expert] Making space

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 04:37, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  Thanks, Bill.  I'm a belt, braces and piece of string person.  I do need
  to have it spelled out really clearly if I feel that there's risk
  involved g I'd never make a gambler.
 
 Good! The better sysadmins rarely gamble, if they can help it. ;)

thanks for finishing the thought train there Bill, I'm on the West Coast
and just getting online.
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Re: [expert] samba probs again

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Bown
Thanks , 
I've been hammering the keyboard all day,
That got the login on the host machine from the host machine OK.;
Win98 sitting on win4lin can see the host, and the host can see the
virtual win98 machine, but their both refusing acess both ways.
Time to check the firewall again maybe,,

Richard


On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 17:01, Thomas Backlund wrote:
 From: Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [...]
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# smbpasswd richard
  New SMB password:
  Retype new SMB password:
  getsmbfilepwent: malformed password entry (no terminating :)
  Failed to find entry for user richard.
  Failed to modify password entry for user richard
  
  ideas /pointers  pleeease
  
 
 You need -a for add ('man smbpasswd' is your frien)
 So:
 
 #smbpasswd -a richard
 
 will do what you want...
 
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Re: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-30 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 04:50, Sevatio wrote:
 thanks, but that still doesn't work.  Something tells me that I need to 
 do a fresh install of LM9.1 instead of upgrading from LM9.0 to LM9.1.  I 
 just can't think of anything else that could be the problem.

Sorry if this sounds harsh -- I don't mean it to be.

Replacing the OS because you can't get a program to work is terribly
Microsoftish. The fact that you can get VNC to show a gray screen means
that VNC is not at fault, your Window Manager is (or at least how you're
starting the WM is).

Try running something simple, such as an xterm, from withing the
vncstartup. Then, try using startkde instead. Post your error logs,
config files, etc.. 


 
 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  Here's my .vnc/xstartup file. It launches KDE in the background
  
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  # Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
  exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc KDE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Sevatio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1
  
  
  How do I get my vncserver on Mandrake 9.1 to display something other 
  than a gray screen with an x mouse cursor?  I've already done the qt3 
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Re: [expert] partly OT: Soyo + Barton + 8x : boot problem

2003-07-30 Thread Philip Webb
030730 Olaf Marzocchi wrote:
 At 19.31 21/07/2003, you wrote:
 i have no problem running the mobo at FSB 133 , but at FSB 166
 -- which the mobo is advertised to support -- it's not at all reliable.
 first, it doesn't recognise the CPU in its default setting,
 but thinks it's a 1900+ running at 1467 MHz ; more seriously,
 if i try manually setting the FSB to 166 with appropriate other settings,
 it boots ok 1 - 3 times, then fails to talk to the AGP card:
 there's long-short-short beep signalling this, then Linux boots invisibly,
 as i can see  hear from the HDD activity  fr using Ctl-Alt-Del to reset.
 Try to check in the manual what that signal means, then ask for replacement

the manual says it means what i say it signals just above (puzzled look).

 Have you tried to lower the AGP speed to 4x?
 I once saw a mobo where you could force the agp to run at 2x instead of 4x.
 You won't notice any performace hit, agp 8x only gives troubles.

nocando with this mobo,
but i tried another card which is 4x  the problem disappeared.
it's almost impossible to find a new 4x card here anyway
 the difference seems to be in the chip ( MX440 a/a MX400 ).

 Probably it depends on the video card, the mobo could be fine.

no, it's the mobo, which is currently at the makers being examined.
the problem is the combination of mobo + Barton CPU + MX440 graphics card.
i swapped a couple of e-mails with Soyo tech support
 their final advice was send it in for testing.
Greg Meyer has been very helpful  pointed out  2  newsgroup reports
of similar problems,  1  of which had been solved by attention from Soyo.
i'll report the result when i get the mobo back next week or so.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:20, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 July 2003 09:55 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
  Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD. I
  Have looked on the seb and could not find any information...
 
 I cannot speak for the 133TX2, but I used a 100TX2 successsfully for quite 
 some time.

Same here, the 100TX2 works without pbm in 9.0 and 9.1

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RE: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Lawson, Jim
Thanks for the answer. With out recompiling the kernel.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER
CARD


On Wednesday 30 July 2003 09:55 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
 Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD. I
 Have looked on the seb and could not find any information...

I cannot speak for the 133TX2, but I used a 100TX2 successsfully for quite 
some time.
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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 10:47, Jack Coates wrote:
 anyone able to get this to compile on MDK 9.1?

finally got a chance to look at this again and found that someone put an
RPM up -- had to install it with --nodeps, but it works.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] local]# rpm -qi kcheckers
Name: kcheckersRelocations: (not
relocateable)
Version : 0.4   Vendor: ALT Linux Team
Release : alt1  Build Date: Wed 15 Jan 2003
11:40:33 AM PST
Install date: Wed 30 Jul 2003 10:12:40 AM PDT  Build Host:
mash.office.altlinux.ru
Group   : Games/Boards  Source RPM:
kcheckers-0.4-alt1.src.rpm
Size: 211931   License: GPL
Packager: Sergey V Turchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://kcheckers.osdn.org.ua
Summary : Classic boardgame - checkers
Description :
Tish is classic boardgame checkers.
This game is also known as draughts.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 09:55 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
 Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD. I
 Have looked on the seb and could not find any information...

I cannot speak for the 133TX2, but I used a 100TX2 successsfully for quite 
some time.
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Re: [expert] (OT) Linux World

2003-07-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:42, Tru64 User wrote:
 Are you saying you are going?
 . Just curious.

yep gone every year starting in 98 . thought if enough of us were
going to be there we could commandeer a Mandrake table for the express
purpose of telling all kinds of horror stories and tall tails *grin*.

James

 
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  All,
 Yes this is sorta off topic... but, it's also the
  only way I can
  ask.  Who here is going to be going to Linux World
  in San Fran in a
  couple of weeks?   Just curious.  
  
  James
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 01:50, Sevatio wrote:
 thanks, but that still doesn't work.  Something tells me that I need to 
 do a fresh install of LM9.1 instead of upgrading from LM9.0 to LM9.1.  I 
 just can't think of anything else that could be the problem.

Sevatio,

   Can you send a list via rpm -qa | grep kde and rpm -qa | grep qt to
the list... I'd like to compare what you have to what I've had working.

James

 
 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  Here's my .vnc/xstartup file. It launches KDE in the background
  
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  # Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script
  exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc KDE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Sevatio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [expert] VNC Gray Screen on Mandrake 9.1
  
  
  How do I get my vncserver on Mandrake 9.1 to display something other 
  than a gray screen with an x mouse cursor?  I've already done the qt3 
  updates.
  
  
  
 
 
 
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[expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread David Guntner
I've just installed ML 9.1 on a clean system, and discovered that it keeps 
the same graphic in place during the boot sequence that is there when lilo 
is letting you pick which system you want to boot.  I don't mind the 
graphic around that, but I much prefer a boot up window (shows the various 
ok messages on just a plain-old text window).  I can't seem to find where 
I can turn that off so that it uses plain-old text.

Also, the X system seems to default to using mdkKDM as the window manager 
at login, and I want to use the KDM window manager so that things like the 
clock will actually show up in the login window when I've selected the 
clock from the control panel under login preferences.  I can't seem to 
remember how I did it on my already-set up machine. :-)  Can someone point 
me in the right direction, please?

Thanks!

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 9:56 am, Bill Mullen wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 1:57 am, Jack Coates wrote:
 * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030729 09:20]:
  I was shocked to realise that my / is running out of
  space. My current situation is
 
  FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/hde7 5.9G  5.3G  288M  95% /
  /dev/hde5 5.9G  2.7G  3.3G  46% /Data
  /dev/hde6 5.7G  452M  5.3G   8% /Graphics
  /dev/hde81012M  7.7M  953M   1% /boot
  /dev/hde105.8G   33M  5.5G   1% /holding
  /dev/hde9 9.7G  4.5G  5.3G  47% /home
  /dev/hdf1 5.3G  3.3G  1.8G  65% /mnt/Mdk9_0
  /dev/hdf6 3.9G  2.2G  1.7G  57% /mnt/OldData
  /dev/hdf7 6.7G  5.0G  1.7G  75% /mnt/OldHome
  /dev/hde1 3.9G  1.8G  2.2G  46% /mnt/windows
  
   ...
  
   looking at this more closely, what I would do is:

 This is /exactly/ how I'd do it as well. I'll just expand on a few
 details of Jack's excellent methodology, for clarity's sake.

   telinit 1
   cp -a /usr/* /holding/

I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What can 
I do about this?

   umount /holding
   vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.

I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a partition, 
but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 7:50 pm, Frederic Soulier wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:20, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 July 2003 09:55 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
   Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2
   CONTROLLER CARD. I Have looked on the seb and could not find
   any information...
 
  I cannot speak for the 133TX2, but I used a 100TX2 successsfully
  for quite some time.

 Same here, the 100TX2 works without pbm in 9.0 and 9.1

Could one of you put that on the HardwareCompatibility pages?

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility

Anne

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 13:27, Anne Wilson wrote:
...
 
telinit 1
cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
 I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What can 
 I do about this?

Check /root/.bash_history -- did you miss the slash between usr and *?

 
umount /holding
vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 
 I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a partition, 
 but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?
 
 Anne
 

risky to do a mv instead of cp. Also, when you finished mounting
/dev/hde10 you'd end up with /usr/usr, which won't work.
 
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 21:29, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 7:50 pm, Frederic Soulier wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:20, Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Wednesday 30 July 2003 09:55 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
Does mandrake 9.0 support this card PROMISE ULTRA133TX2
CONTROLLER CARD. I Have looked on the seb and could not find
any information...
  
   I cannot speak for the 133TX2, but I used a 100TX2 successsfully
   for quite some time.
 
  Same here, the 100TX2 works without pbm in 9.0 and 9.1
 
 Could one of you put that on the HardwareCompatibility pages?
 
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility

Done.

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Stephane Junique
Hello Anne,

telinit 1
cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
 I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What can 
 I do about this?
This is strange, you shold have all the content of /usr copied inside
/holding instead.
Are you sure you did cp -a /usr/* /holding/  and not  
cp -a /usr/ /holding/  ?

umount /holding
vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 
 I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a partition, 
 but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?
No no, don't mv, you would remove the original content of /usr, with no
way back if something goes wrong.

If /usr is jusr a directory, mounting a partition on it will hide its
original content. This is what you want.
So just mount on /ust the partition that was previously on /holding

HTH,

Stephane


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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 9:49 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 13:27, Anne Wilson wrote:
 ...

 telinit 1
 cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
  I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What
  can I do about this?

 Check /root/.bash_history -- did you miss the slash between usr and
 *?

I don't think I did - I checked it before hitting enter, but what I 
typed after telinit 1 doesn't show up in root's bash history.

 umount /holding
 vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 
  I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a
  partition, but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?
 
  Anne

 risky to do a mv instead of cp. Also, when you finished mounting
 /dev/hde10 you'd end up with /usr/usr, which won't work.

Oops - I think I've been unclear again.  I meant, once I have 
everything in the right place in the new /usr, I need to rename the 
old /usr so that the poor system doesn't get its knickers in a twist.  
It's at that point that I thought I should use mv.  Am I wrong?

Anne

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[expert] Install 9.1 from HD.IMG Boot

2003-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
With 9.0 and previous, I extracted the contents of the iso's to one
partition and installed from there. I since did a RedHat hd install, and
it only wanted to know the location of the iso files. That was very
convenient, so on this 9.1 install, I didn't extract the iso contents
first. When this install started, it only asked the location and name of
one iso. I proceeded anyway, thinking the installer must be smart enough
to find the other two co-located iso's when it needed them.

Apparently not. I get about 1/3 through installing packages, and every
subsequent package generates a generic error installing message and
wants to know if I want to continue anyway. I clicked yes to go on
anyway a couple dozen times now and see no improvement. It makes me
think this installer to too dumb to use the #2  #3 iso files to keep on
going.

Am I wrong? Must I extract all iso contents the old fashioned way in
order to get a full install?
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Re: [expert] MSI K7D Master

2003-07-30 Thread Stephane Junique
Hi ,

Here I am again, with some news !

You were right, Todd, it's a DMA problem. Booting with ide=nodma
solve it. What puzzles me is that 1) the WD drive works fine
with my MSI motherboard (Nforce2 chipset) and 2) The Fujitsi
and the old IBM disk also have the problem with the bi-proc.
mobo.
And you were right too concerning the performance without DMA.
I copied the Mandrake DVD to the disk to see if the system 
remained stable. Stable it was, but it was almost unusable
(100% CPU used for copying) and it took an awful long time...
I'm going to order a Maxtor drive (I need one more disk anyway)
and see what happens. I hope I can use DMA one way or another...

Thank you so much for your help, Todd and Larry !

Regards,

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 10:23 pm, Jan Wilson wrote:
 * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030730 14:53]:
 telinit 1
 cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
  I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What
  can I do about this?

 That SHOULD have put everything under /usr into /holding  ...  but
 if you see /holding/usr/lots of stuff  you can do:

 mv /holding/usr/* /holding/

 Then you should be able to remove /holding/usr because it should be
 empty:

 rmdir /holding/usr

OK - done that, and everything looks fine.

 umount /holding
 vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 
  I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a
  partition, but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?

 If at this point, you have identical directories/files under /usr
 and under /holding, and /holding is a partition, then you won't
 need to use mv to change /holding to /usr ... you'll do that by
 changing the mount points in /etc/fstab.

 What makes this a little tricky is that when you reboot, you'll
 have the same stuff in the new /usr as in what will be a kind of
 phantom /usr that was mounted under /  ...  it's like what happens
 if you copy something into /mnt/floppy while there is no floppy
 disk mounted. When you mount the floppy, the stuff that was there
 will appear to be gone, replaced by whatever is on the floppy. 
 Then when you unmount the floppy, the stuff that was there before
 you mounted the floppy will appear.

 I think it means that when you explicitly mount something, it takes
 precedence over an existing link, so if the new /usr works, you'll
 have to find a way to unmount the /usr partition, delete what is in
 the /usr partition under /  (and probably that /usr directory also)
 and then remount your partition that holds the stuff from /usr.

Since by this time the new /usr will be mounted, are you saying that I 
won't be able to see the original /usr?  If it's still there as a 
directory, can't I just delete the directory once I'm sure everything 
is ok?

 This is why I like using Knoppix ... it's easier for me to
 understand and be sure of what is going on with the partitions when
 they're all mounted as /mnt/hda5, /mnt/hda6, etc.

 Hope this made it clearer rather than murkier  ;-)

I'm getting there g  thanks to you all.

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Wilson
* Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030730 14:53]:
telinit 1
cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
 I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What can 
 I do about this?

That SHOULD have put everything under /usr into /holding  ...  but if
you see /holding/usr/lots of stuff  you can do:

mv /holding/usr/* /holding/

Then you should be able to remove /holding/usr because it should be
empty:

rmdir /holding/usr

umount /holding
vi /etc/fstab and change /holding to /usr and vice versa.
 
 I can change /holding to /usr, but the old /usr is not a partition, 
 but a directory.  Do I just mv /usr /holding?

If at this point, you have identical directories/files under /usr and
under /holding, and /holding is a partition, then you won't need to
use mv to change /holding to /usr ... you'll do that by changing the
mount points in /etc/fstab.

What makes this a little tricky is that when you reboot, you'll have
the same stuff in the new /usr as in what will be a kind of phantom
/usr that was mounted under /  ...  it's like what happens if you copy
something into /mnt/floppy while there is no floppy disk mounted.
When you mount the floppy, the stuff that was there will appear to be
gone, replaced by whatever is on the floppy.  Then when you unmount
the floppy, the stuff that was there before you mounted the floppy
will appear.

I think it means that when you explicitly mount something, it takes
precedence over an existing link, so if the new /usr works, you'll
have to find a way to unmount the /usr partition, delete what is in
the /usr partition under /  (and probably that /usr directory also)
and then remount your partition that holds the stuff from /usr.

This is why I like using Knoppix ... it's easier for me to understand
and be sure of what is going on with the partitions when they're all
mounted as /mnt/hda5, /mnt/hda6, etc.

Hope this made it clearer rather than murkier  ;-)

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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:17 pm, David Guntner wrote:
 I've just installed ML 9.1 on a clean system, and discovered that it keeps
 the same graphic in place during the boot sequence that is there when lilo
 is letting you pick which system you want to boot.  I don't mind the
 graphic around that, but I much prefer a boot up window (shows the various
 ok messages on just a plain-old text window).  I can't seem to find where
 I can turn that off so that it uses plain-old text.

Just uninstall the bootsplash package

urpme bootsplash

 
 Also, the X system seems to default to using mdkKDM as the window manager
 at login, and I want to use the KDM window manager so that things like the
 clock will actually show up in the login window when I've selected the
 clock from the control panel under login preferences.  I can't seem to
 remember how I did it on my already-set up machine. :-)  Can someone point
 me in the right direction, please?

urpme mdkkdm

urpmi kdebase-kdm

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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 10:15 pm, Stephane Junique wrote:
 Hello Anne,

 telinit 1
 cp -a /usr/* /holding/
 
  I did this, but /usr appears as a subdirectory of /holding.  What
  can I do about this?

 This is strange, you shold have all the content of /usr copied
 inside /holding instead.
 Are you sure you did cp -a /usr/* /holding/  and not
 cp -a /usr/ /holding/  ?

Absolutely sure.

 If /usr is jusr a directory, mounting a partition on it will hide
 its original content. This is what you want.
 So just mount on /ust the partition that was previously on /holding

Thanks

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Re: [expert] Install 9.1 from HD.IMG Boot

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 05:28 pm, Felix Miata wrote:
 With 9.0 and previous, I extracted the contents of the iso's to one
 partition and installed from there. I since did a RedHat hd install, and
 it only wanted to know the location of the iso files. That was very
 convenient, so on this 9.1 install, I didn't extract the iso contents
 first. When this install started, it only asked the location and name of
 one iso. I proceeded anyway, thinking the installer must be smart enough
 to find the other two co-located iso's when it needed them.

 Apparently not. I get about 1/3 through installing packages, and every
 subsequent package generates a generic error installing message and
 wants to know if I want to continue anyway. I clicked yes to go on
 anyway a couple dozen times now and see no improvement. It makes me
 think this installer to too dumb to use the #2  #3 iso files to keep on
 going.

 Am I wrong? Must I extract all iso contents the old fashioned way in
 order to get a full install?

Using this method right now, yes, but I do recall a conversation on cooker ML 
where it was discussed to change this.
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:46 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote:
 Thanks for the answer. With out recompiling the kernel.

Yes.
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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 14:10, Anne Wilson wrote:
 ...
  risky to do a mv instead of cp. Also, when you finished mounting
  /dev/hde10 you'd end up with /usr/usr, which won't work.
 
 Oops - I think I've been unclear again.  I meant, once I have 
 everything in the right place in the new /usr, I need to rename the 
 old /usr so that the poor system doesn't get its knickers in a twist.  
 It's at that point that I thought I should use mv.  Am I wrong?
 
 Anne
 

Ah. Actually, this is kind of a mind bender, so it might be useful to cd
/tmp and make a few directories and files to test with so you can be
comfortable that it really works like this. When you mount a partition
at a mount point, the old contents of that mountpoint are not disturbed.

In other words, the old /usr will still be there, you just won't be able
to use it until you've umount'ed /dev/hde10.

Basically, we think of a directory as a folder containing pieces of
paper which are files, but in real life it's more like a single piece of
paper with a list of files written on it. This mount trick is like
laying another piece of paper with another list of files on top of the
first one. The actual files in either directory are scattered
willy-nilly all over the partition and all a directory does is provide
pointers on where to find them.

Think about this a while longer and symlinks will start to make a lot
more sense too :-)

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.1 on Dell Inspiron 5150

2003-07-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Keskiviikko 30 Heinäkuu 2003 23:23, Eric Fesler kirjoitti:
 Hi,

 I just installed Mandrake 9.1 on a Dell Inspiron 9.1 and I've got
 several issues:

 I'm using the kernel linux-2.4.21-0.13mdkenterprise

 1°) The harddisk is really slow : hdparm shows a transfer rate of
 3.5Mb/s

 I tried to activate the dma using the command:
 hdparm -c1d1 /dev/hdc

 and I got the following output:
 /dev/hdc:
  setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1
  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
  IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
  using_dma=  0 (off)

 2°) If I switch ACPI on in lilo.conf, the PC just freeze after having
 loaded the kernel
 I trued to recompile without APM and without APIC but then the PC reboot
 after having loaded the kernel

 Any ideas how I can solve those issues. Issue 1 is the most important up
 to now.


get the latest security update kernel:
linux-2.4.21-0.25mdkenterprise

and try again ;-)

Thomas


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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 00:16 schrieb Greg Meyer:
 On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:17 pm, David Guntner wrote:
  I've just installed ML 9.1 on a clean system, and discovered that it
  keeps the same graphic in place during the boot sequence that is there
  when lilo is letting you pick which system you want to boot.  I don't
  mind the graphic around that, but I much prefer a boot up window (shows
  the various ok messages on just a plain-old text window).  I can't seem
  to find where I can turn that off so that it uses plain-old text.

 Just uninstall the bootsplash package

 urpme bootsplash

  Also, the X system seems to default to using mdkKDM as the window manager
  at login, and I want to use the KDM window manager so that things like
  the clock will actually show up in the login window when I've selected
  the clock from the control panel under login preferences.  I can't seem
  to remember how I did it on my already-set up machine. :-)  Can someone
  point me in the right direction, please?

 urpme mdkkdm

 urpmi kdebase-kdm

Wow what radical. Not to recommend I think. 

For the first:
drakboot = using theme for console, take the cross out
For the second: 
drakedm = choose the one you wish

Both should be reachable over MCC

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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 16:20, Steffen Barszus wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 00:16 schrieb Greg Meyer:
  On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:17 pm, David Guntner wrote:
   I've just installed ML 9.1 on a clean system, and discovered that it
   keeps the same graphic in place during the boot sequence that is there
   when lilo is letting you pick which system you want to boot.  I don't
   mind the graphic around that, but I much prefer a boot up window (shows
   the various ok messages on just a plain-old text window).  I can't seem
   to find where I can turn that off so that it uses plain-old text.
 
  Just uninstall the bootsplash package
 
  urpme bootsplash
 
   Also, the X system seems to default to using mdkKDM as the window manager
   at login, and I want to use the KDM window manager so that things like
   the clock will actually show up in the login window when I've selected
   the clock from the control panel under login preferences.  I can't seem
   to remember how I did it on my already-set up machine. :-)  Can someone
   point me in the right direction, please?
 
  urpme mdkkdm
 
  urpmi kdebase-kdm
 
 Wow what radical. Not to recommend I think. 
 
 For the first:
 drakboot = using theme for console, take the cross out
 For the second: 
 drakedm = choose the one you wish
 
 Both should be reachable over MCC
 
 Steffen

or in your lilo.conf  vga=[some number]  changed to vga=normal   

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[expert] 9.1 Install - Failed to Check Filesystem /dev/hda1

2003-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
Do you want to repair the errors? (beware you can lose data)

This is a non-native type 0x07 filesystem. Why does the installer think
/dev/hda1 needs checking?
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[expert] bug #82 in Samba 2.2.8 RPMS?

2003-07-30 Thread Jim C
Anbody know how I can find out if I've got the patch for this?



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Re: [expert] Making space - problems

2003-07-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

 On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 10:23 pm, Jan Wilson wrote:
 
  I think it means that when you explicitly mount something, it takes
  precedence over an existing link, so if the new /usr works, you'll
  have to find a way to unmount the /usr partition, delete what is in
  the /usr partition under / (and probably that /usr directory also) and
  then remount your partition that holds the stuff from /usr.
 
 Since by this time the new /usr will be mounted, are you saying that I
 won't be able to see the original /usr?  If it's still there as a
 directory, can't I just delete the directory once I'm sure everything is
 ok?

Sorry to vanish on you, had to get some sleep. ;)

Jan is incorrect only in that you do not delete the old /usr *directory*
but only its contents - you still need the empty directory to serve as the 
mount point for the partition that now contains the /usr files. This is 
the same principle that is at work when you find that you cannot mount a 
floppy as /mnt/floppy if the /mnt/floppy directory does not already 
exist. That's why Jack's instructions called for unmounting the new /usr 
partition, then deleting the contents of the old /usr directory (but not 
the directory itself), then remounting the /usr partition. You'll recall 
that this is done in single-user mode, where nothing in /usr is actively 
in use (so unmounting/remounting it is therefore possible).

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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread David E Fox
 I had to edit the Makefile and specify the location of $(QTDIR), then
 specify that qmake lives in $(QTDIR)/bin before make qmake would
 succeed. After doing that, make fails:

I first tried it and couldn't make it work. Then I remembered having to
set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3) and then it went all the way through. I
was surprised there was no ./configure present. At any rate I'll go
install it. su - root well - keep in mind that the 'su' makes a
new environment, so you need to reset QTDIR again. It's a pretty
simple install, only two files.

 pdn.cpp:2:19: qfile.h: No such file or directory
 In file included from pdn.cpp:5:
 pdn.h:5:25: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory

Well, urpmf /usr/include/qstringlist.h - if set up. Maybe
you left out a development rpm. It may not live in /usr/include
precisely. Actually, here it is part of /usr/lib/qt3/include, 
and inside qt3-devel. 'locate qfile.h' shows it also in /usr/lib/qt3
/include, not in /usr/include. On some systems, it would be symlinked
to /usr/include/qt or something.

 I noticed that a binary is included, but it fails to run because
 Mandrake doesn't use the same naming convention as the developer's


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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread David E Fox
 finally got a chance to look at this again and found that someone put an
 RPM up -- had to install it with --nodeps, but it works.

That's neat. I already compiled it though :).

Anyway, it would be nice to have an rpm for gtkatlantic and play
some Monopoly on the net :). I've been successful at compiling but
some others need RPMs. But I haven't tried to make an rpm in a 
very long time :(. It's becoming ever more popular.

 Jack Coates

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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 07:44 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 or in your lilo.conf  vga=[some number]  changed to vga=normal  

What I like about the bootsplash removal, is that I can still use the 
framebuffer for my console display, getting more than 80x25 text resolution.  
If you just use vga=normal, console's display at 80x25 text, but by removing, 
I can leave vga=791 and display my console's using the frambuffer and get 
more on the screen.
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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 07:20 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
  urpme bootsplash
 
...
 
  urpme mdkkdm
 
  urpmi kdebase-kdm

 Wow what radical. Not to recommend I think.

 For the first:
 drakboot = using theme for console, take the cross out
 For the second:
 drakedm = choose the one you wish

 Both should be reachable over MCC


c'mon Steffen, this is the expert list.  If it had been the newbie list, your 
answer is correct, but since experts don't use the gui, I think my way is 
more apropos. :p
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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread David Guntner
Greg Meyer grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 Just uninstall the bootsplash package
 
 urpme bootsplash
 
 [...]
 urpme mdkkdm
 
 urpmi kdebase-kdm

Well, that seems a bit of a brute-force approach, but I guess it will work. 
:-)

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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread David Guntner
James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 16:20, Steffen Barszus wrote:
  
  For the first:
  drakboot = using theme for console, take the cross out
  For the second: 
  drakedm = choose the one you wish
  
  Both should be reachable over MCC
 
 or in your lilo.conf  vga=[some number]  changed to vga=normal   

Ah!  Good catch. :-)  I was about to ask him what cross out?  Because I 
couldn't find anything on that menu to uncheck WRT bootsplash.  Once you've 
set vga=normal in lilo.conf and run lilo, those options completely drop out 
of the drakboot program.

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Re: [expert] (OT) Linux World

2003-07-30 Thread Mark Williamson
Yeah love to..   Umm it's a little far for me though, here in
Australia..  still good luck  ;)

Cheers
Mark

On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 05:42, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:42, Tru64 User wrote:
  Are you saying you are going?
  . Just curious.
 
 yep gone every year starting in 98 . thought if enough of us were
 going to be there we could commandeer a Mandrake table for the express
 purpose of telling all kinds of horror stories and tall tails *grin*.
 
 James
 
  
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   All,
  Yes this is sorta off topic... but, it's also the
   only way I can
   ask.  Who here is going to be going to Linux World
   in San Fran in a
   couple of weeks?   Just curious.  
   
   James
   
   
   
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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:57, David E Fox wrote:
  I had to edit the Makefile and specify the location of $(QTDIR), then
  specify that qmake lives in $(QTDIR)/bin before make qmake would
  succeed. After doing that, make fails:
 
 I first tried it and couldn't make it work. Then I remembered having to
 set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3) and then it went all the way through. I
 was surprised there was no ./configure present. At any rate I'll go
 install it. su - root well - keep in mind that the 'su' makes a
 new environment, so you need to reset QTDIR again. It's a pretty
 simple install, only two files.
 
  pdn.cpp:2:19: qfile.h: No such file or directory
  In file included from pdn.cpp:5:
  pdn.h:5:25: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory
 
 Well, urpmf /usr/include/qstringlist.h - if set up. Maybe
 you left out a development rpm. It may not live in /usr/include
 precisely. Actually, here it is part of /usr/lib/qt3/include, 
 and inside qt3-devel. 'locate qfile.h' shows it also in /usr/lib/qt3
 /include, not in /usr/include. On some systems, it would be symlinked
 to /usr/include/qt or something.

I had libqt3-devel installed which has everything it was looking for --
I probably needed to symlink the whole lot into /usr/lib.

 
  I noticed that a binary is included, but it fails to run because
  Mandrake doesn't use the same naming convention as the developer's
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:17 pm, David Guntner wrote:
 I've just installed ML 9.1 on a clean system, and discovered that it keeps
 the same graphic in place during the boot sequence that is there when lilo
 is letting you pick which system you want to boot.  I don't mind the
 graphic around that, but I much prefer a boot up window (shows the various
 ok messages on just a plain-old text window).  I can't seem to find where
 I can turn that off so that it uses plain-old text.

Just remove the bootsplash rpm (urpme or the software manager) and then adjust 
your /etc/lilo.conf file. Mine looks like this:

image=/boot/vmlinuz
unnecessary stuff deleted
vga=791

and don't forget to run (as root/su) /sbin/lilo so the changes are reflected.

I much prefer seeing everything that is going on. I even put noquiet in 
there so I can see some hardware goodies during bootup. :-)

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Re: [expert] How to turn off Bootsplash mdkKDM?

2003-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
David Guntner wrote:
 
 James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

  or in your lilo.conf  vga=[some number]  changed to vga=normal
 
 Ah!  Good catch. :-)  I was about to ask him what cross out?  Because I
 couldn't find anything on that menu to uncheck WRT bootsplash.  Once you've
 set vga=normal in lilo.conf and run lilo, those options completely drop out
 of the drakboot program.

What happens to those who never run lilo? I always depend on Grub for
boot. No need to run it after changing its boot config file.
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