Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba. I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received any answers resolving the issue. When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected behavior? I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way. Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the samba machines. This is an addition to my previous email. I apologize if I hijacked the thread. I didn't intend to. I thought the comments relavant, but I don't know if anyone else did. :-\ -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 18:45:00 up 3 days, 23:46, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.11, 0.25 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Hardware guru please - advice needed
On Monday September 1 2003 04:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 01 Sep 2003 10:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Anne, 'dmidecode' (as root) will tell you what voltage the AGP slot has, among other bios settings. EG (excerpt from mine), Handle 0x001B DMI type 9, 13 bytes. Card Slot Slot: AGP Type: 32bit Long AGP Status: In use. Slot Features: 3.3v bash: dmidecode: command not found I dmidecode part of something else, or something that needs to be installed separately? Anne Yes, sorry. I'm so use to always havin it installed I didn't think, lm_sensors-2.8.0-4mdk. Just 'urpmi lm_sensors' I believe it's been included for some time, so an older lm_sensors package will probly work too. It's on your CD's -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba. I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received any answers resolving the issue. When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected behavior? I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way. Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the samba machines. Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer. I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue that I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you now no longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse locks in KDE Gnome
On Monday 01 September 2003 01:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:47, Niclas Jacobsson wrote: Hi all! I am co-using mouse and monitor with an MS XP Home Client through one of those mechanical switchboxes. XPH manages to loose mouse and get it back working after switching, but Mandrake is loosing contact with the mouse until I log out from session then it comes alive again. Anybody encountered this before? Thanks! Niclas Yes a number of people have. Mine did this as well, the quick workaround is to do ctrl-alt-f1 and then switch when leaving Linux. Then ctrl-alt-f7 when you come back to it. Problem is in the way the mechanical ones work (which is why XP has trouble as well) restarting console mouse (service gpm ) if installed will also get your mouse back. James For what it is worth... I had an old Belkin KVM switch. Everytime I switched back to Linux, my mouse died. I ended up kill Xwindows and going back. I got tired of it. Quite by accident I have found that the linksys 4 port little KVM works like a dream. NO more problems at all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse locks in KDE Gnome
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:01:23 -0700 lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 September 2003 01:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:47, Niclas Jacobsson wrote: Hi all! I am co-using mouse and monitor with an MS XP Home Client through one of those mechanical switchboxes. XPH manages to loose mouse and get it back working after switching, but Mandrake is loosing contact with the mouse until I log out from session then it comes alive again. Anybody encountered this before? Thanks! Niclas Yes a number of people have. Mine did this as well, the quick workaround is to do ctrl-alt-f1 and then switch when leaving Linux. Then ctrl-alt-f7 when you come back to it. Problem is in the way the mechanical ones work (which is why XP has trouble as well) restarting console mouse (service gpm ) if installed will also get your mouse back. James For what it is worth... I had an old Belkin KVM switch. Everytime I switched back to Linux, my mouse died. I ended up kill Xwindows and going back. I got tired of it. Quite by accident I have found that the linksys 4 port little KVM works like a dream. NO more problems at all. OTOH my Belkin OmniViewSE has worked flawlessly for over 2 yrs. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] spoofed?
Well, I just received a heads up from my isp provider -- seems that there
has been some naughtiness (?) going on here.. dunno what to do to fix it.
It seems there have been some pings/icmp activity from my system to some
other system on the local tsoft network. I can't find anything in my logs
regarding this activity.
-- Aug 7 20:18:10 ns snort[26215]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Aug 30 02:11:08 ns snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx Sep 1 12:21:10 ns
snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Sep 1 12:36:17 ns snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Notice that there's been some activity today...
David E. Fox Thanks for letting me
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk.
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Re: [expert] spoofed?
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:19:24 -0700 dfox [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Well, I just received a heads up from my isp provider -- seems that there has been some naughtiness (?) going on here.. dunno what to do to fix it. It seems there have been some pings/icmp activity from my system to some other system on the local tsoft network. I can't find anything in my logs regarding this activity. Get a router/NAT/firewall that enables spoof protection. If you have an extra old clunker lying around, BBIAgent will do this for you: http://www.bbiagent.net/ -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Who does not trust enough will not be trusted. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Some process changing groups permissions
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: ... I like Todd's method rpm -e msec --nodeps and then put it into the urpmi skip list *grin* James ... It's got its uses, but I agree that the right mistake with msec can royally screw a system. Of course, that's Unix for you; most tools can bite if you don't learn how to use them right. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:59, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *** James Sparenberg Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:27:29 -0700 : All, There is an interesting discussion on pclinuxoneline.com (texstar's site.) Dealing with the upgrade cycle and some people wondering if the 9.1 to 9.2 upgrade is going to be worth it. OK, James, thanks for the info, but is there anything new what we haven't already read and/or written during such same discussions since version 5.3? It seems that nearly every half year we have the same discussion with the same subject and again, the same words and reasoning. One thing that's new is that it's *before* a final comes out. Normally this starts after a final comes out and someone complains about some bug or feature and says They should have waited until the darn thing is ready!. That's the point when the discussion starts. It's been on the MandrakeForum of old, in the MandrakeClub and - of course - many times in the newsgroup. Nevertheless, I hope that the reasonable posters win again. ;-) Wobo, I know the discussion. And this isn't in the same vein. It's taking on a much more logical attitude. One of the things being talked about is something like pushing urpmi and it's usage as an upgrade tool to the forefront. That's why I mentioned it. It's not what I've seen over and over. (Remember how everyone hated 7.2 and now they talk about it like it was the most solid release ever? *grin*) It's not a complain about the lousy release session but more of a I can't see what's in it for me to do a wipe and install upgrade conversation. That's the only reason I think it's interesting. Not a bitch session so much as a problem solving session... refreshing. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] realtek rtl8180 wlan card -- drivers/modules.
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:21, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to get my wlan card to work in my laptop. It's a sweex pcmcia card with rtl8180 chip. Now realtek offers download for drivers but not specifically for the mdk kernel (I'm using the stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk with 9.1). The closest are IMO the redhat9.0 and/or suse8.2 Anybody already been there, done that? BTW cardctl ident says it's a Rtl8180 and not Rtl8180L (the latter is more problematic so it seems) 2 questions 1. Do you know what the driver should be. 2. Can you post the full output of the command [prompt]# cardctl ident I've been having luck of late with creating additions to the /etc/pcmcia/config file. I'd like to see if I can make it 3 for 3. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Some process changing groups permissions
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:10, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: ... I like Todd's method rpm -e msec --nodeps and then put it into the urpmi skip list *grin* James Wh? Uninstall msec??? It's a GREAT tool. I'm glad Mandrake includes it. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you're immune for any sort of attacks. Ripping out the security mechanisms is a good way to make it a target. Learn to use msec correctly instead of banishing anything you don't understand. -- Brian Keefer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Some process changing groups permissions
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:28, chort wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:10, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: ... I like Todd's method rpm -e msec --nodeps and then put it into the urpmi skip list *grin* James Wh? Uninstall msec??? It's a GREAT tool. I'm glad Mandrake includes it. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you're immune for any sort of attacks. Ripping out the security mechanisms is a good way to make it a target. Learn to use msec correctly instead of banishing anything you don't understand. IF someone gets through 2 (or 5) firewalls depending on my location... they probably aren't going to be slowed down by msec. Yes it's a great tool. But not a panacea. C is a great language but lousy for fast prototyping. Need to apply the tool where need and not as a catch all. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
*** James Sparenberg Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:09:21 -0700 : I know the discussion. And this isn't in the same vein. It's taking on a much more logical attitude. One of the things being talked about is something like pushing urpmi and it's usage as an upgrade tool to the forefront. That's why I mentioned it. It's not what I've seen over and over. (Remember how everyone hated 7.2 and now they talk about it like it was the most solid release ever? *grin*) And after 9.0 it was 8.2 which was the best version ever! *g* not a complain about the lousy release session but more of a I can't see what's in it for me to do a wipe and install upgrade conversation. That's the only reason I think it's interesting. Not a bitch session so much as a problem solving session... refreshing. I see. But don't they see that all these answers were given in one sentence? You don't have to upgrade. Period. And a great part of the reasons for releasing are not in the software but in finance. OK, I won't take the discussion here. If I have time I'll jump over to the real discussion. Right now I have to defend myself in a german newsgroup where some bozo called me a troll! Me, a troll! =:O wobo -- Trust me, I know what I'm doing! (Sledge Hammer) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:09, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:59, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *** James Sparenberg Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:27:29 -0700 : All, There is an interesting discussion on pclinuxoneline.com (texstar's site.) Dealing with the upgrade cycle and some people wondering if the 9.1 to 9.2 upgrade is going to be worth it. OK, James, thanks for the info, but is there anything new what we haven't already read and/or written during such same discussions since version 5.3? It seems that nearly every half year we have the same discussion with the same subject and again, the same words and reasoning. One thing that's new is that it's *before* a final comes out. Normally this starts after a final comes out and someone complains about some bug or feature and says They should have waited until the darn thing is ready!. That's the point when the discussion starts. It's been on the MandrakeForum of old, in the MandrakeClub and - of course - many times in the newsgroup. Nevertheless, I hope that the reasonable posters win again. ;-) Wobo, I know the discussion. And this isn't in the same vein. It's taking on a much more logical attitude. One of the things being talked about is something like pushing urpmi and it's usage as an upgrade tool to the forefront. That's why I mentioned it. It's not what I've seen over and over. (Remember how everyone hated 7.2 and now they talk about it like it was the most solid release ever? *grin*) It's not a complain about the lousy release session but more of a I can't see what's in it for me to do a wipe and install upgrade conversation. That's the only reason I think it's interesting. Not a bitch session so much as a problem solving session... refreshing. James looked like most of the crew doesn't realize you can upgrade with urpmi :-) whatever. I'll upgrade a few weeks after release and hopefully swsusp will start to work on my Vaio laptop. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote: What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power to my HD drives. And that was with an older system. hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins. Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at present it is over 20. lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up at 4 or 5? Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of course, they are. Oh well, reboot time again. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spoofed?
Say hi to Mike for me :-)
this is the same box with the ps problems, right? Put the latest
checkrootkit on a write-protected floppy and run it on there, I think
you might have a visitor.
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:19, dfox wrote:
Well, I just received a heads up from my isp provider -- seems that there
has been some naughtiness (?) going on here.. dunno what to do to fix it.
It seems there have been some pings/icmp activity from my system to some
other system on the local tsoft network. I can't find anything in my logs
regarding this activity.
-- Aug 7 20:18:10 ns snort[26215]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Aug 30 02:11:08 ns snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx Sep 1 12:21:10 ns
snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Sep 1 12:36:17 ns snort[15127]: [1:469:1] ICMP PING NMAP =
[Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priori
ty: 2]: {ICMP} 198.144.206.157 - 198.144.206.xx
Notice that there's been some activity today...
David E. Fox Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk.
---
__
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--
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Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows
/Windows_XP/?tc=1 , which includes about a hundred windows xp related sites
of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Michael
--
Michael Viron
Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way. Samba
to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it always seems
to be a problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the
samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue that I
believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may be
wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you now
no
longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is the
problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
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[expert] msec configuration problem
Hi, This question started actually in the newbie mailing list but it may be more appropriate for the expert list. I setup my machine with security level 4 but I am interested in relaxing some of the permission settings. I made changes to /etc/security/msec/perm.local and then executed msec. I found that msec does not make the requested changes unless I pass it the security level parameter as in msec 4 If I don't pass this parameter, the local changes are not executed. Even if I do pass this parameter, on the hour, cron executes /etc/cron.hourly/msec which again resets my local changes and reverts to the default. The reason for this is that in the following line in msec: /usr/share/msec/Perms.py $CHANGE $OPT /usr/share/msec/perm.$PERM_LEVEL $LOCAL $CHANGE is not set and therefore the local changes do not get saved. For now I hard coded in the msec script CHANGE=-c so that the changes will be saved. Is this a bug in msec or am I missing some setting which will force msec to use my local changes? Thanks, Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff
hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins. Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls, etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall load average. This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last urpmi --auto-select. lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up at 4 or 5? msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user. No difference there. Reboot urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker panel on my kde. D*thing came up in twm :( Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
looked like most of the crew doesn't realize you can upgrade with urpmi:-) whatever. I'll upgrade a few weeks after release and hopefully swsusp will start to work on my Vaio laptop. A lot of people have complained of problems while upgrading. Is this not an issue anymore? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Some process changing groups permissions
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:28, chort wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:10, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: ... I like Todd's method rpm -e msec --nodeps and then put it into the urpmi skip list *grin* James Wh? Uninstall msec??? It's a GREAT tool. I'm glad Mandrake includes it. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you're immune for any sort of attacks. Ripping out the security mechanisms is a good way to make it a target. Learn to use msec correctly instead of banishing anything you don't understand. IF someone gets through 2 (or 5) firewalls depending on my location... they probably aren't going to be slowed down by msec. Yes it's a great tool. But not a panacea. C is a great language but lousy for fast prototyping. Need to apply the tool where need and not as a catch all. James Point taken, but neither are firewalls a holistic solution. There are many avenues of attack which firewalls were never designed to stop. Besides, just having lots of layers doesn't mean security is increased. If all the firewalls run the same software/firmware or have the same hardware weakness, they can all be bypassed just as easily. I see msec as more protection against people who have permission to use the machine, not unauthorized outside access. According to most estimates, 80-90% of attacks happen from the inside so it's really those users you have to worry about any way. I just have a knee-jerk reaction when ever someones solution to inconvenient security mechanisms is to automatically remove them. Some are needed simply to protect us from ourselves. Sure, the most usable computers are those without all the burden of security, but by the same token it's easiest to destroy someones work on an unprotected machine, so a balances needs to be struck. msec and Bastille (hope I spelled that right) are two very useful lockdown utilities. Just because they can occasionally be annoying doesn't mean they should be whole-sale removed. -- Brian Keefer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 20:36, Eric Huff wrote: looked like most of the crew doesn't realize you can upgrade with urpmi:-) whatever. I'll upgrade a few weeks after release and hopefully swsusp will start to work on my Vaio laptop. A lot of people have complained of problems while upgrading. Is this not an issue anymore? eric I haven't had problems with 8.2 to 9.0 or 9.0 to 9.1 -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec configuration problem
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 20:11, Avi Schwartz wrote: Hi, This question started actually in the newbie mailing list but it may be more appropriate for the expert list. I setup my machine with security level 4 but I am interested in relaxing some of the permission settings. I made changes to /etc/security/msec/perm.local and then executed msec. I found that msec does not make the requested changes unless I pass it the security level parameter as in msec 4 If I don't pass this parameter, the local changes are not executed. Even if I do pass this parameter, on the hour, cron executes /etc/cron.hourly/msec which again resets my local changes and reverts to the default. The reason for this is that in the following line in msec: /usr/share/msec/Perms.py $CHANGE $OPT /usr/share/msec/perm.$PERM_LEVEL $LOCAL $CHANGE is not set and therefore the local changes do not get saved. For now I hard coded in the msec script CHANGE=-c so that the changes will be saved. Is this a bug in msec or am I missing some setting which will force msec to use my local changes? Thanks, Avi puzzling. Seems like a bug -- I can only assume that I've made my changes manually and then altered perm.local so they'll stick, otherwise I should have seen this too. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On 01 Sep 2003 20:52:45 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I haven't had problems with 8.2 to 9.0 or 9.0 to 9.1 Even more, Just keeps gettin' better an' better... Well, Ok , supermount, but that goes without saying. What 'av the Romans ever done fer us?! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec configuration problem
On Monday, Sep 1, 2003, at 22:55 America/Chicago, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 20:11, Avi Schwartz wrote: Hi, This question started actually in the newbie mailing list but it may be more appropriate for the expert list. I setup my machine with security level 4 but I am interested in relaxing some of the permission settings. I made changes to /etc/security/msec/perm.local and then executed msec. I found that msec does not make the requested changes unless I pass it the security level parameter as in msec 4 If I don't pass this parameter, the local changes are not executed. Even if I do pass this parameter, on the hour, cron executes /etc/cron.hourly/msec which again resets my local changes and reverts to the default. The reason for this is that in the following line in msec: /usr/share/msec/Perms.py $CHANGE $OPT /usr/share/msec/perm.$PERM_LEVEL $LOCAL $CHANGE is not set and therefore the local changes do not get saved. For now I hard coded in the msec script CHANGE=-c so that the changes will be saved. Is this a bug in msec or am I missing some setting which will force msec to use my local changes? Thanks, Avi puzzling. Seems like a bug -- I can only assume that I've made my changes manually and then altered perm.local so they'll stick, otherwise I should have seen this too. Then there is something else going on since I also did the changes manually but the next time that cron ran msec is restored it to the default without taking into account my changes. If you look at your /etc/cron.hourly/msec is it a link to the msec executable? Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec configuration problem
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 21:06, Avi Schwartz wrote: ... puzzling. Seems like a bug -- I can only assume that I've made my changes manually and then altered perm.local so they'll stick, otherwise I should have seen this too. Then there is something else going on since I also did the changes manually but the next time that cron ran msec is restored it to the default without taking into account my changes. If you look at your /etc/cron.hourly/msec is it a link to the msec executable? Avi ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ ll /etc/cron.hourly/msec lrwxr-xr-x1 root root 14 Sep 27 2002 /etc/cron.hourly/msec - /usr/sbin/msec check your log, sounds like msec isn't liking the perm.local file. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX Problems, here. I usually fdformat /dev/fd0 as normal user but, in 9.2 rc1, it seems I have to umount /mnt/floppy, as root, first. Kernel-2.4.22-1mdk. In 9.1, kernel-2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk, the fdformat works w/o needing to umount. In both, mkbootdisk (uname -r) gives an error: cp: writing `/tmp/mkbootdisk/initrd.img': No space left on device Error ! The disk shows something like: $ ll /mnt/floppy total 1424 -rwxrwxrwx1 rolf rolf 151552 Sep 1 21:14 initrd.img* -r-xr-xr-x1 rolf rolf 7060 Sep 1 21:14 ldlinux.sys* -rwxrwxrwx1 rolf rolf 1298632 Apr 6 15:48 vmlinuz* Booting from either of these disks starts out with: Could not find kernel image: linux boot: I can give vmlinuz to the boot: prompt and it loads until: Kernel panic:VFS:unable to mount root fs on 08:05 Guessing because my filesystem is reiserfs and the initrd is not correctly made. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? Success: once on a non-SCSI 9.1 system Failure: 6-8 times on SCSI (53c8xx) 9.1 9.2rc1 systems (out of space) -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Some process changing groups permissions
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 20:46, chort wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:48, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 19:28, chort wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:10, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:08, James Sparenberg wrote: ... I like Todd's method rpm -e msec --nodeps and then put it into the urpmi skip list *grin* James Wh? Uninstall msec??? It's a GREAT tool. I'm glad Mandrake includes it. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you're immune for any sort of attacks. Ripping out the security mechanisms is a good way to make it a target. Learn to use msec correctly instead of banishing anything you don't understand. IF someone gets through 2 (or 5) firewalls depending on my location... they probably aren't going to be slowed down by msec. Yes it's a great tool. But not a panacea. C is a great language but lousy for fast prototyping. Need to apply the tool where need and not as a catch all. James Point taken, but neither are firewalls a holistic solution. There are many avenues of attack which firewalls were never designed to stop. Besides, just having lots of layers doesn't mean security is increased. If all the firewalls run the same software/firmware or have the same hardware weakness, they can all be bypassed just as easily. True enough I see msec as more protection against people who have permission to use the machine, not unauthorized outside access. According to most estimates, 80-90% of attacks happen from the inside so it's really those users you have to worry about any way. herein lies the rub... On the boxes I remove it from there is one user . Me or, I have some destructive testing boxes that msec is just too helpful for. (We'd double the setup time making constant adjustments to msec so away it goes.) I just have a knee-jerk reaction when ever someones solution to inconvenient security mechanisms is to automatically remove them. Some are needed simply to protect us from ourselves. I don't need to be protected from myself. If I screw up. I pay the price. If I wanted to be protected from myself I'd run windows. Or run all of my boxes via knoppix without HDD's (screw up reboot it's back to what was.) of course data preservation would be a bear. Sure, the most usable computers are those without all the burden of security, but by the same token it's easiest to destroy someones work on an unprotected machine, so a balances needs to be struck. msec and Bastille (hope I spelled that right) are two very useful lockdown utilities. Just because they can occasionally be annoying doesn't mean they should be whole-sale removed. Remember one thing. Whatever an automated system does for you it also does to you. Annoyances.. nah when something is annoying it gets squashed. (flies, mosquitos etc) When it is counter productive and causes me to spend more time fixing it than doing real work... it gets pulled. (And yes I ran windows without IE) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
What 'av the Romans ever done fer us?! Trippy. We just watched the old Trek where they encountered The Romans in the 20th century. -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
A lot of people have complained of problems while upgrading. Is this not an issue anymore? I haven't had problems with 8.2 to 9.0 or 9.0 to 9.1 Interesting. You said you upgraded with urpmi. Does that mean you didn't do an install and choose upgrade, but let urpmi do the work? Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:19, Eric Huff wrote: A lot of people have complained of problems while upgrading. Is this not an issue anymore? I haven't had problems with 8.2 to 9.0 or 9.0 to 9.1 Interesting. You said you upgraded with urpmi. Does that mean you didn't do an install and choose upgrade, but let urpmi do the work? Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... thanks, The beginnings of a tutorial is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode=flatorder=1sid=7018#32054 Actually it was written by yama as an instruction set. Also too supposedly Ranger has also done one as well A(don't have the url) James eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... The beginnings of a tutorial is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode=flatorder=1sid=7018#32054 Thanks! I added it to our TWiki under MandrakeReferences -- Tutorials : http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences#Tutorials -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:55, Eric Huff wrote: Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... The beginnings of a tutorial is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode=flatorder=1sid=7018#32054 Thanks! I added it to our TWiki under MandrakeReferences -- Tutorials : http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences#Tutorials beet me to the punch... thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] realtek rtl8180 wlan card -- drivers/modules.
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 04:12, James Sparenberg wrote: 2 questions 1. Do you know what the driver should be. No not really, I'm supposing (going by the readme that comes with the realtek download) the module is rtl8180_24x.o which is part of the download. if it doesn't work as delivered, one is suggested to compile one's own. 2. Can you post the full output of the command [prompt]# cardctl ident # cardctl ident Socket 0 product info: realtek, Rtl8180 manfid: 0x, 0x024c function: 6 (network) # cat /proc/ioports (only the relevant parts) .. 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 4000-40ff : PCI CardBus #01 4000-40ff : PCI device 10ec:8180 4400-40ff : PCI CardBus #01 #cat /proc/pci (again only the relevant part) .. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: Ethernet controller: PCI device 10ec:8180 (rev 32). IRQ 9. Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64. I/O at 0x4000 [0x40ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x1080 [0x108001ff]. I've been having luck of late with creating additions to the /etc/pcmcia/config file. I'd like to see if I can make it 3 for 3. I used to be able to do that fairly off-hand for my Belkin card (not wlan!) but since kernel 2.4.x and some cardbus quirks I shoved 'em in a drawer and used a Xircom instead. But now theres wlan to tempt me!! There is a mini howto for the linksys WPC11 card ( http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11.html ) which uses the same 8180 chips as this sweex thing, that mentions using Orinoco_cs as driver instead of wavelan_cs or wvlan_cs on Redhat. They also mention that there is a difference between Rtl8180 and Rtl8180L and that the 8180 download from Realtek is meant for the latter. All this info was starting to puzzle me, hence my asking if somebody else had already taken this road and could warn me of any pitfalls. I tend to be overly cautious when entering unknown territory (especially with machines that can't be missed) and I've no experience whatso ever with wlan, yet. -- Good luck, HarM Mandrake HowTo's More:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE apps crash when trying to print
Hello! I just upgraded one comp from 9.0 to 9.1. Did clean install, everything OK, except for that KDE apps crash everytime I try to print. Tried it with KMail, Konqueror, KOffice. Printer setup utility of KDE Control Panel crashed as well, when I tried to take a look at settings. Apps show printing dialog for 2-3 seconds, with Print button greyed out, then crash. Crash handler does not give any sensible messages. System is, as I said, 9.1 with all the updates done as of yesterday, Printing system is CUPS, printer is LaserJet6L that has served me well since Mdk8.0 times. Other, non-KDE apps print OK. I guess it might be some old KDE setting or file or whatever in my /home directory, but cannot even guess where to start lookin... Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Can KMail be set to filter attachments?
On Monday 01 Sep 2003 10:54 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Failed. It crashes kmail. I tried to create a new folder in Maildir format, delete it, create a symlink by the same name to /dev/null. I then tried to move an email in one of my other folders into the new /dev/null folder...it crashes kmail with a complaint that there isn't enough diskspace! I then tried it by creating it in mbox format. Same result. There is just no way to send emails to /dev/null in kmail. Hmm - that's something that needs doing. I wonder how we get this back to the kde team? I think it's probably a much higher priority than it was a year ago. Thanks for the experiments and feedback. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 3:46 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? Under 9.1 I used the gui with success. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Print problems
On Monday 01 Sep 2003 4:54 pm, Larry Sword wrote: Anne, There are numerous settings you can make to the page and in the print settings. File-Page Setup - Format Options, Margins Headers/Footer. Try playing around with these and then use the File-Print preview to check the page. Oh yes, in the Print-Properties you can set the Gap to the Margins. Hi, Larry. The point is that Moz won't let me change the margins. It is set to 0.5, and if I try to change it, it simply reverts to 0.5 the moment I try to move to the next box. Also, the preview displays correctly with the headers/footers, which makes me think that the file is being sent to CUPS correctly but with the wrong margins set. I'll continue to experiment. The d thing is not going to beat me g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 7:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:55, Eric Huff wrote: Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... The beginnings of a tutorial is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articletho ld=-1mode=flatorder=1sid=7018#32054 Thanks! I added it to our TWiki under MandrakeReferences -- Tutorials http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences#Tutor ials beet me to the punch... thanks. LOL - good to see things happening now. What I'd really like to do is get a working copy of 9.1 over the top of the old 9.0, then upgrade that. I guess it would need new partitions made for /usr and possibly /home, so perhaps it's more bother than it's worth, but for a working box the chance of an upgrade failing is worrying. I'll probably just do a fresh install to that partition. OTOH, I'll still need to make the new partitions, copy data across, etc. Hang on a minute - I said I wasn't going to go down that road g - it's too soon to do it all again vbg Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] forgotten knowledge...
On Monday 01 Sep 2003 6:18 pm, Mark wrote: Hi List, I've forgotten how to do something that I used to know how to do. That is, using cat to combine a list of files into one single file. The problem: the list of files below, I would like to combine into just one file. les_csharp_12_p1.pdf les_csharp_12_p2.pdf les_csharp_12_p3.pdf les_csharp_12_p4.pdf les_csharp_12_p5.pdf les_csharp_12_p6.pdf les_csharp_12_p7.pdf I would like the contents of the above list of files to appear in this file: CSharp_LESSON12.pdf Solution: ??? Mark Hi, Mark. I've been following this, and it doesn't look promising, so I wonder if it's time for a dirty solution. Could you not pdf2ps all the files, open them in SOWriter, then cut and paste into one file, save that as a new pdf? I know it's not elegant, but it might work. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE apps crash when trying to print
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:00:15 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I just upgraded one comp from 9.0 to 9.1. Did clean install, everything OK, except for that KDE apps crash everytime I try to print. Tried it with KMail, Konqueror, KOffice. Printer setup utility of KDE Control Panel crashed as well, when I tried to take a look at settings. Apps show printing dialog for 2-3 seconds, with Print button greyed out, then crash. Crash handler does not give any sensible messages. This sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me when i installed TurboPrint. It had a uninstall script but like you have never been able to print from KDE apps again, problem never fixed :-( Regards, Dan Gordon -- Tue Sep 2 06:34:14 EDT 2003 06:34:14 up 18:19, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.08, 0.04 Endless Loop: n., see Loop, Endless. Loop, Endless: n., see Endless Loop. -- Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 23:00, Jack Coates wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote: What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power to my HD drives. And that was with an older system. hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins. what does 'df' say Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at present it is over 20. lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up at 4 or 5? Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of course, they are. Oh well, reboot time again. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:46 pm, many eyes noted that Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX Define successful? Boots the system with some problems identifying the CD ROM as an SCSI device with dialogue to change devices, asks does one want to run the configuration tool. Ignore this, and the system boots and runs without any obvious problems. then if you reboot without the floppy disk the same dialogue comes up again. Some devices altered or not recognised, ignore again, and everything works fine also. Fixes itself? I may not create a boot floppy the right way? This is also on a standard kernel. 2.4.21-0.13mdk Format floppy to DOS filesystem Place into the floppy drive but do not mount Use drakboot Select Lilo/Grub mode /Configure Bootloader main options /Advanced Enable Create bootdisk OK When complete just click OK Never fails on different machines. But having said that, might have brought the devil to the door. With Red Hat have created a boot floppy during install that has all the files but they have been empty, and the floppy didn't work. Charlie -- I am not afraid of storms, because I am learning to sail my ship. Louise May Alcot. This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Print problems
Hi, Angelo. In Mozilla, when I try to change the margin from 0.5 to 1.0 it simply jumps back to 0.5. I haven't tried running it is root - I wonder if it would help - I'll try, in case it's a permission problem. I do think, though, that in older versions I could change it there, so I think it's probably a bug. I haven't tested to change margins. I'll try it tonight at home cause i've the same version of Moz. I usually get netscape or konqueror as navigators, but i think moz and netscape have the same behaviour. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX Well...when I first loaded 9.1 thats how I had to do it to get a boot floppy. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake web site
Hi all, is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake web site
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 16:54 schrieb Mark: Hi all, is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. Maybe they get DDoSed by all the people trying to get the rc1 ? Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spoofed?
Get a router/NAT/firewall that enables spoof protection. Well, yep. I was hoping for something I could do in software to detect and or stop this gremlin. HaywireMac David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (slight OT) Upgrade cycles discussion
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:19, Eric Huff wrote: A lot of people have complained of problems while upgrading. Is this not an issue anymore? I haven't had problems with 8.2 to 9.0 or 9.0 to 9.1 Interesting. You said you upgraded with urpmi. Does that mean you didn't do an install and choose upgrade, but let urpmi do the work? on my desktops and servers, I've run the installer and chosen upgrade. My laptop has a firewire CD drive though, and the installer program doesn't work, so I've done urpmi installs there. Either way, what is the best way to upgrade? I started at 9.1, so i've never encounter this choice before... thanks, eric depends on the needs of the moment -- e.g. if the installer won't run, urpmi is the only option, but if there was an incompatible glibc change, using the installer is good. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake web site
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 16:54 schrieb Mark: Hi all, is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. Maybe they get DDoSed by all the people trying to get the rc1 ? Steffen yeah...guess thats possible. Maybe you can answer another question. I see the responses to my posts, but I don't see the actual posts appearing on the list. Any ideas? -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Define successful? Doing it without running out of disk space would be successful. Of course, if it actually boots the right partition it would be even better. I've been able to do this in 9.0. LX and I hashed over this; it seems that the kernels are SoBig :) now that there's not enough room on the floopy for syslinux/grub (or lilo)/initrd and the kernel. Boots the system with some problems identifying the CD ROM as an SCSI device with dialogue to change devices, asks does one want to run the configuration Have you done this with 9.2? I may not create a boot floppy the right way? This is also on a standard kernel. 2.4.21-0.13mdk Hmm. How big was that? 1337954 Aug 25 08:47 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1mdk Format floppy to DOS filesystem Place into the floppy drive but do not mount Back in the old days: format floppy cp /boot/zImage /dev/fd0 rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdX That's from memory, and I may have the parameters reversed. It was always a trick remembering the order for rdev. The intent is to simply ocpy the kernel onto a good floppy and then rdev it -- this sets the root device, which you'd fill in with wherever your root happened to be. If we go back to that mode, at least the kernel will fit on the floppy by itself. If not, it's time to figure out why the kernels in 9.x are SoBig ;). In particular, lots of stuff is modularized so they're not in the monolithic kernel image. Otherwise, hack drakboot to make disks with more sectors per track than the default DOS format. After all, we aren't running DOS, so why stick with 1.44mb floppies if you can tweak the format for 1.6 meg? Charlie David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake web site
Mark wrote: is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. Yesterday I had this problem with Konqueror, but not with Mozilla. -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Hardware guru please - advice needed
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 12:14 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: Yes, sorry. I'm so use to always havin it installed I didn't think, lm_sensors-2.8.0-4mdk. Just 'urpmi lm_sensors' I believe it's been included for some time, so an older lm_sensors package will probly work too. It's on your CD's OK - installed it on my own box. Amazing amount of info there! Now all I have to do is read up on all the wonderful things lm_sensors can tell me :-) Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake web site
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 17:29 schrieb Mark: On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Dienstag, 2. September 2003 16:54 schrieb Mark: Hi all, is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. Maybe they get DDoSed by all the people trying to get the rc1 ? Steffen yeah...guess thats possible. Maybe you can answer another question. I see the responses to my posts, but I don't see the actual posts appearing on the list. Any ideas? sympa sucks. That is on all mailinglists of mandrake and with not reaching the archives it sucks even more :( I hope something will be done after 9.2 rush Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Changing Mouse
I'm using a MS Intellimouse(with ball) on MDK 9.0. It's currently identified as the following in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection And works just fine. I just bought a MS Intellimouse Optical and want to install that. Both are going to use the PS/2 port. My question is this: Is it going to be just a shutdown, switch mice and power back up? Or am I going to have to do some kind of setting changes to get it to work? If so, what changes need to be made? Jim -- 10:01am up 23 days, 18:18, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.09, 0.07 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Changing Mouse
I made a similar change and it was just power down change and powerup no big deal. if you need to make any changes though it should prompt you during boot up or you can after through the control tool mcc . ( Mandrake Control Center ) James Conner wrote: I'm using a MS Intellimouse(with ball) on MDK 9.0. It's currently identified as the following in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection And works just fine. I just bought a MS Intellimouse Optical and want to install that. Both are going to use the PS/2 port. My question is this: Is it going to be just a shutdown, switch mice and power back up? Or am I going to have to do some kind of setting changes to get it to work? If so, what changes need to be made? Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA == Dual booting 98lite;MDK 9.1 stock kernel Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 liquid/acqua Theme == If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped. What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
Michael Viron
Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue that
I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may
be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you
now
no
longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is
the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Changing Mouse
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:40 am, James Conner wrote: I'm using a MS Intellimouse(with ball) on MDK 9.0. It's currently identified as the following in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection And works just fine. I just bought a MS Intellimouse Optical and want to install that. Both are going to use the PS/2 port. My question is this: Is it going to be just a shutdown, switch mice and power back up? Or am I going to have to do some kind of setting changes to get it to work? If so, what changes need to be made? Jim Good news Jim. This is Linux. Power down and reboot Mickeysoft stuff. You should just be able to do a service gpm restart after changing the mouse. G Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:51, Mark wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: How many people here can successfully create a boot disk under 9.1 or 9.2 using mkbootdisk and a 1.4 meg floppy? LX Well...when I first loaded 9.1 thats how I had to do it to get a boot floppy. Have you tested the bootdisk? LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
lorne wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!
This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed?
A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped. What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
Michael Viron
Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue that
I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may
be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you
now
no
longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is
the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
--
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:44 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. Missed the first part of this thread, but the above caught me eye: I use NFS here on our 3 comp LAN and we get around 10-12 megs/s transfers. I routinely cope big files across to my sons' comps and it surely doesn't take as long as you are describing... I'm not really even sure what I'm supposed to be getting but it seems okay - what is a normal NFS transfer rate? -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed? ?? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless for files no? A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by Windows? The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
lorne wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!
This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed?
A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
--
Brian Keefer
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Mates:
Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer issue
appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation or
rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
same type of problem could have reared its head again.
I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to get the
history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
--
- Original Message -
From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and
my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix
for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
Michael Viron
Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not
received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000
box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around
1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue
that
I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I
may
be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that
you
now
no
longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this
is
the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Brian wrote:
Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
Brings up a good point. Specifically, how many hubs are we talking
about? Are there more than 2 hubs between the mdk and XP box? If it's a 1
hub small network, DNS and NETBIOS braodcasts shouldn't be that much of an
issue.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
--
- Original Message -
From: chort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
lorne wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring
285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
less!!
This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in
speed?
A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
--
Brian Keefer
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS.
http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents
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Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
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- Original Message -
From: David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Mates:
Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
issue
appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation or
rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
same type of problem could have reared its head again.
I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to get the
history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
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- Original Message -
From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and
my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
less!!
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
is
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today,
so
I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix
for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it
has
been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
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Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not
received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a
Win2000
box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box
to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at
around
1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other
way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the
windows
machines, not the samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I really
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
From: David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS. http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents Just an update for you all... upcoming MDK 9.2 has cifs support in both kernel and Samba 2.2.x / 3.x ... Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
chort wrote:
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
lorne wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!
This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed?
A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
Who's network?
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client
Uptime:
15:40:01 up 4 days, 20:41, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.23
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Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being
self-evident.
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:44 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. Missed the first part of this thread, but the above caught me eye: I use NFS here on our 3 comp LAN and we get around 10-12 megs/s transfers. I routinely cope big files across to my sons' comps and it surely doesn't take as long as you are describing... I'm not really even sure what I'm supposed to be getting but it seems okay - what is a normal NFS transfer rate? In a mixed Windows/ Linux environment it is easier, and from what I've read, more secure to use Samba for all file serving. I haven't used NFS for file serving so I can't comment on it's speed. When I initiate a file transfer on a Windows machine to or from a Linux (Samba) machine I get 8-9 megs/s transfers. When I use an ftp transfer on a local network I get 11-12 meg/s transfers. When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s tranfers. This is the one I'm trying to fix. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 14:10:01 up 4 days, 19:11, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.47, 0.52 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed? ? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless for files no? I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine. If you initiate the transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you will get a slow transfer. A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by Windows? The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 14:05:01 up 4 days, 19:06, 1 user, load average: 0.40, 0.88, 0.65 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...
Hi all, Is anyone else seeing this happen? What I mean is the system boots just fine to the GUI login screen, but after I've logged out of my Xwindows session it doesn't remain in init 5, but drops to init 3, and the console login appears. In order to get the GUI login screen back I've got to drop to init 1 and then go to init 5. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:22 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s tranfers. This is the one I'm trying to fix. Yep, that definitely seems slow to me. Isn't there some stuff in the Samba configuration file where you can adjust that? -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:14 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed? ? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless for files no? I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine. If you initiate the transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you will get a slow transfer. Then the issue you are having is not the same thing I'm having. Pure and simple. I'm getting roughly 150mb a minute from my linux box to XP (either direction initiated from the Linux box) 4-5mb a sec. From the XP box to (either direction initiated from the XP box) the linux box I'm getting roughly .2 mb a minute! A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by Windows? The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:22 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s tranfers. This is the one I'm trying to fix. Yep, that definitely seems slow to me. Isn't there some stuff in the Samba configuration file where you can adjust that? I'm using the Mandrake Samba configuration. I was under the impression that Mandrake's Samba install is configured with widely known speed enhancing parameters out of the box. The problem appears to be in the initiation of the transfer; whatever handles that in Mandrake. Windows has no problem with talking to Samba. Why does Linux? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 16:30:00 up 4 days, 21:31, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.06, 0.10 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:09 am, chort wrote: Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex. If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc). Agreed. First thing I looked for in the traces. No collisions, very little traffic. This is a network with all of 3 computers. 1 Xp, 1 Mdk 9.1 and 1 ME. Well the firewall if that counts, but the arps and bdcasts are at a nominal amount. I realize that at Hafl Duplex, I'm not going to see HUGE speeds, but roughly 10-20mb a minute is nuts! I would love to hear if anyone is really seeing good speeds from XP to Linux at better than 2mb a sec. ?? It looks during my research today that SP1 for XP actually causes more problems than it solves in some cases. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 12:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex. If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc). Who's network? Just a simple intranet. 1 hub. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:14 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed? ? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless for files no? I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine. If you initiate the transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you will get a slow transfer. hen the issue you are having is not the same thing I'm having. Pure and simple. After reading the rest of your post I agree. I'm getting roughly 150mb a minute from my linux box to XP (either direction initiated from the Linux box) 4-5mb a sec. This is also what I am getting (half as slow as when initiated by Windows). From the XP box to (either direction initiated from the XP box) the linux box I'm getting roughly .2 mb a minute! That kind of speed can definitely get in the way of getting anything done. :-( A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by Windows? The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being the transfer is initiated on a Linux box. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 16:35:01 up 4 days, 21:36, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.16, 0.11 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:27 am, David Rankin wrote:
Mates:
Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer issue
appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation or
rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
same type of problem could have reared its head again.
I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to get the
history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.
Very good point. I noticed an awful lot of 1514 frames. Let me go back and
take another look see. I might have missed something.
BAH... I'm going to do another trace. I'll make it more controlled. Using the
exact same file so I can make a better comparison. I'm not seeing anything
the jumps out at me. 1514 frames though. ?? I'll write back.
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- Original Message -
From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring
285MB
of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and
my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or less!!
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
in question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Window
s/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
is somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today,
so I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a
fix
for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
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Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not
received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000
box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around
1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
I would agree from smb to smb, but I
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:36 am, David Rankin wrote: Brian wrote: Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex. If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc). Brings up a good point. Specifically, how many hubs are we talking about? Are there more than 2 hubs between the mdk and XP box? If it's a 1 hub small network, DNS and NETBIOS braodcasts shouldn't be that much of an issue. Not much. A MNF firewall, 1 hub, 1mdk 9.1, 1 xp and one ME. That is it. Traces show not much traffic other than the typical arp and bdcst. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 12:13 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS. http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents Just an update for you all... upcoming MDK 9.2 has cifs support in both kernel and Samba 2.2.x / 3.x ... What will be the benefit kernel level support? You wouldn't need samba to connect? Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...
Mark wrote: Hi all, Is anyone else seeing this happen? What I mean is the system boots just fine to the GUI login screen, but after I've logged out of my Xwindows session it doesn't remain in init 5, but drops to init 3, and the console login appears. In order to get the GUI login screen back I've got to drop to init 1 and then go to init 5. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There's already been a bug report submitted on it. I think you can also get the dm back by logging in at the console prompt and typing: service -f dm (you will need to be root or su to root). After that, you won't get kicked out of the dm until you reboot and logout the first time. Hopefully, it will be fixed for RC2. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
Okay,
Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not
even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what
else I'll dig up.
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:27 am, David Rankin wrote:
Mates:
Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
issue appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The
slow transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation
or rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba
folks also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98,
but the same type of problem could have reared its head again.
I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason
the archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an
expert archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to
get the history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to
recreate this condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to
do.
Very good point. I noticed an awful lot of 1514 frames. Let me go back and
take another look see. I might have missed something.
BAH... I'm going to do another trace. I'll make it more controlled. Using
the exact same file so I can make a better comparison. I'm not seeing
anything the jumps out at me. 1514 frames though. ?? I'll write back.
--
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RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
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- Original Message -
From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried
removing the above key and it made no difference at all. As we speak
I'm transferring 285MB
of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and
my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or less!!
The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
in question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Wind
ow s/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
Just some thoughts,
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
is somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick
today, so I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up
with a fix
for
this.
If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my
particular problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba.
Nothing special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP
to ME
fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me
stumped.
What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it
has been premature. I just thought of this.
Michael
--
Michael Viron
Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not
received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a
Win2000
box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box
to either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at
around
1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable that did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the registry to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window size to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news. The bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to copy an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went too quickly. What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? --- -- -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake web site
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:54 am, Mark wrote: Hi all, is it me or has anyone else noticed that its next to impossible to navigate the Mandrake website. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get to the mailing list archives now for about an hour and either get a connection denied back from their web server, or it just sits there and goes nowhere. Mark: It's not just you, Mark. I expect that it is related to Mandrake's server relocation project that is the subject of an August 7 article on the Mandrake home page, which warned that some temporary outages could be expected. I know that sometime in early August the archives became unavailable for a few days. It looks like they pulled the plug again. FWIW, I couldn't get into the Club early yesterday, but it was OK last night. Then this morning the main site was unavailable, but now that works, too. I just checked the newbie archive, and it worked just fine (8:30 pm EDT). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
Lorne You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The site I posted earlier but can't find now, the ubhix something like that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that. I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits. Another site that looks promising is http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation issue by follow the test specified. Good luck. -- David C. Rankin Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes (or do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name of corporate greed. Your choice. - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable that did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the registry to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window size to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news. The bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to copy an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went too quickly. What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? --- -- -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 04:44 pm, Mark wrote: Hi all, Is anyone else seeing this happen? What I mean is the system boots just fine to the GUI login screen, but after I've logged out of my Xwindows session it doesn't remain in init 5, but drops to init 3, and the console login appears. In order to get the GUI login screen back I've got to drop to init 1 and then go to init 5. Known bug that has actually been fixed already I think, at least I have not experienced it since I urpmi'd my cooker box on Sunday. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] forgotten knowledge...
To combine multiple files into one just do the following: cat file1 file2 file3 newfile Mile Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 01 Sep 2003 6:18 pm, Mark wrote: Hi List, I've forgotten how to do something that I used to know how to do. That is, using cat to combine a list of files into one single file. The problem: the list of files below, I would like to combine into just one file. les_csharp_12_p1.pdf les_csharp_12_p2.pdf les_csharp_12_p3.pdf les_csharp_12_p4.pdf les_csharp_12_p5.pdf les_csharp_12_p6.pdf les_csharp_12_p7.pdf I would like the contents of the above list of files to appear in this file: CSharp_LESSON12.pdf Solution: ??? Mark Hi, Mark. I've been following this, and it doesn't look promising, so I wonder if it's time for a dirty solution. Could you not pdf2ps all the files, open them in SOWriter, then cut and paste into one file, save that as a new pdf? I know it's not elegant, but it might work. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joeb wrote: Mark wrote: Hi all, Is anyone else seeing this happen? What I mean is the system boots just fine to the GUI login screen, but after I've logged out of my Xwindows session it doesn't remain in init 5, but drops to init 3, and the console login appears. In order to get the GUI login screen back I've got to drop to init 1 and then go to init 5. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There's already been a bug report submitted on it. I think you can also get the dm back by logging in at the console prompt and typing: service -f dm (you will need to be root or su to root). After that, you won't get kicked out of the dm until you reboot and logout the first time. Hopefully, it will be fixed for RC2. Joeb Awesome...thanks Joeb. By the way...when is the scheduled release date of RC2? - -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE/VVPnJyqY2X3sWG8RAvLOAKCJc0uwnDACLTEvQ+exMjl3XWIWZgCfRS+r 6pqqk6wMrdIJAODe0BAYgpw= =0rmP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] connect with ssh to my box
hello everybody, i have my mdk9.1 box security level set on standard. now, i want to be able to connect with ssh or telnet to this box from another one in my lan. the connections are refused... where do i have to make the changes to allow this ? tnx greetings, stu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] connect with ssh to my box
elPunishar wrote: hello everybody, i have my mdk9.1 box security level set on standard. now, i want to be able to connect with ssh or telnet to this box from another one in my lan. the connections are refused... where do i have to make the changes to allow this ? Assuming that sshd is running on your box, you may need to edit /etc/hosts.allow and add the line sshd:ALL This will allow all external hosts to connect via ssh. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote: Lorne You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The site I posted earlier but can't find now, the ubhix something like that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that. I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't put my finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he can lay his finger on it. I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits. Another site that looks promising is http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation issue by follow the test specified. I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm going to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :) I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box for storage. hahaha Good luck. -- David C. Rankin Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes (or do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name of corporate greed. Your choice. - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable that did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the registry to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window size to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news. The bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to copy an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went too quickly. What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- - Original Message - From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: Okay, Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what else I'll dig up. This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up. Fast transfer uses about protocols nbss 1/4+ total smb 1/4- total tcp1/2 total Slow transfers nbss 5/8 total smb 1/16 total tcp 1/3? total Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders? --- -- -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or
Re: [expert] connect with ssh to my box
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 04:14:18 +0200 elPunishar [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: i have my mdk9.1 box security level set on standard. now, i want to be able to connect with ssh or telnet to this box from another one in my lan. the connections are refused... where do i have to make the changes to allow this ? what command are you using to connect? you should be able to connect by default, unless perhaps shorewall is running and blocking the ssh port. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ You can't mend a wristwatch while falling from an airplane. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] connect with ssh to my box
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 04:14:18 +0200 elPunishar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello everybody, i have my mdk9.1 box security level set on standard. now, i want to be able to connect with ssh or telnet to this box from another one in my lan. the connections are refused... where do i have to make the changes to allow this ? tnx greetings, stu You probably havent installed sshd. In a terminal, become root by typing su and then the root password. Then type urpmi openssh-server That will install the ssh server that will allow you to connect to another computer in the LAN via ssh. John Drouhard -- Tue Sep 2 21:53:06 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] forgotten knowledge...
Anne Wilson wrote: Hi, Mark. I've been following this, and it doesn't look promising, so I wonder if it's time for a dirty solution. Could you not pdf2ps all the files, open them in SOWriter, then cut and paste into one file, save that as a new pdf? I know it's not elegant, but it might work. Anne Hi Anne, I had thought about that. but then I decided not to do it that way cause I'd end up having to edit and clean up too much. So I chose the try the elegant lazy method. as it turns out when I used cat do combine the files all I got was the first page and a wee bit of the last page and that was all. don't know what I did wrong. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
