Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 08:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 2:45 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:53, Anne Wilson wrote: I am using Gnome as my desktop. The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, snip James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root password. Would this happen if he hadn't created any users? Could that be the real problem? It's trying to know what to ask him that's my problem. Anne Anne, File Manager Super User Mode doesn't ask and DOESN'T put you into su mode in Gnome, though it does both in KDE, at least on my 9.1 installation. Dunno why. It's not a question of having logged in as root. I've made a note of this in one of the TWiki entries somewhere. DougB That's incredible! There isn't much point in it, in that case. I wonder if he would be prepared to stick to kde until he has things up and running and explore other dms later. I'll suggest it to him. hahah yup. I have another one for you. Make a super duper encrypted file system with a minimum of 16 characters. So when it is booted or mounted it requires a password. (naturally) Now, open the control center and go into mount points and mount the d#@ thing. No password! I was pretty much blown away by that, but I guess they figure if you are root, you should be able to mount anything. Kind of defeats the whole purpose in my mind. :) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 22:30 schrieb Rolf Pedersen: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 3:33 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [...] Yes, Anne, I saw that. What I am thinking of is that both the reader, if you have one, and the writer must be scsi-emulated for some apps to work. Here is a post where such advice to make the reader also scsi-emulated for k3b to work is mentioned: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jul/2997.html I had some similar problem with my ide-writer. The problem is partialy in the ide-cd module wich is loaded before the ide-scsi module. As root I had to unload the ide-cd and the ide-scsi module and after loading ide-scsi again k3b works again (at least on my system). Rolf Martin -- H E L I X Gesellschaft für Software Engineering mbH Hanauer Landstrasse 52 Telefon (069) 4789 35-30 D-60314 Frankfurt am Main Telefax (069) 4789 35-44 http://www.helix-gmbh.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [expert] No mouse after installing Mandrake 9.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Rowe wanted us to know: Yes, and when that didn't work I created the PS/2 device by hand with mknod. I don't think mousedrake can help when cat /dev/psaux is failing. That's at Your system is using devfs unless you specifically disabled it. devfs is a method where the /dev directory is pretty much empty and everytime you load a module that recognizes a device, it creates a virtual device node in /dev for you. First, I'd try rebooting and passing noapic to the kernel. Check to see if it has it now with 'cat /proc/cmdline'. If you see the word noapic in there, then it's already being done. Second, I'd try rebooting and passing devfs=nomount to the kernel. It might (temporarily) cause things like the cdrom to not quite work right, but you can at least see if the mouse will begin to work properly. a systems level below mousedrake, right? Does mousedrake do more than set XF86Config? Yes, configures the modules to load which create the device nodes for you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California Heh, you're not far from me. Glendale here, just over the hill from ya. - -- Blue skies... ToddPublic key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.22 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/cmn/IBT1264ScBURAoxwAKCIgeMeT7Y2bMnZiEy36qBr5JHq2wCgutww b1Gah66uQdODOYAxq0ZRN8M= =I3fZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fwd: arrrgghhh
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 06:01 pm, many eyes noted that Anne Wilson wrote: A newbie has contacted me for help. So far he has not managed to get himself onto the mailing lists, so I'm all he has got for now. I'm puzzled about his current problem. Obviously a permissions problem, but I don't know what questions to ask. Help, anyone? Anne -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: arrrgghhh Date: Monday 22 Sep 2003 9:25 pm From: philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using Gnome as my desktop. The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, and I can find nothing in the directory about gtcam or ownership, it dose however open my home folder. Any tips. I will be here a while longer hours I think. Its ok my wife is out lol. so no worries about divorce lol. --- Anne, This might be off the mark, never having used gnome, but I wonder what error messages Philip gets? In /tmp there will be some files that work gnome just as they work KDE. They should belong to user, and you can either chmod them or you can chown them. Having had trouble like this in Slackware that didn't allow me to log into the desktop and X as user. but roots were owned correctly. I discovered the best was was to chown them and they stayed chowned. The permissions were changed on each login with chmod, and had to be either rechmod or deleted, every time. That was Slackware though. Mandrake might get it right if deleted as root and then enter as user so that they can be rewritten. They may stick after reboot also? HTH Charlie. -- Tomorrow I will live, the fool does say: Today itself's too late; the wise lived yesterday. Martial This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] remote access to text only screens
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 03:02, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:42, Kitchener, Steve wrote: Hi, I need to be able to get at the screens that are displayed when you enter the key sequence CNTRL/ALT + F1 etc on a remote machine. I know that VNC will give me a display of my desktop, but is there a facility in VNC that isn't obvious or is there a text equivalent of VNC. Closet I know of is ssh. Both are text based terminals and functionally equivalent. James Stephen, I think by accident I found what you are looking for. It allows remote control of the Linux Virtual Terminals like vnc allows control of the gui. http://www.lubemobile.com.au/ras/conspy/ Is the URL and I think it will do exactly what you want. James Thanks Stephen Kitchener IT Manager Broner Metals Solutions 1 Century Court, Tolpits Lane Watford, WD18 9PT, UK Tel +44 (0) 1923 652125 Fax +44 (0) 1923816456 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sony CDwriter writes to CD-RW but not CD-R disks
Hi, Can anyone help? I have been struggling with this problem for ages, RTFM etc. hasn't resolved it for me. MDK9.1. Using cdrecord on the CLI. My Sony CD-writer writes happily to a Toshiba CD-RW, single or multi-session ,etc.with no problem; but the same drive will not write anything to a CD-R (I've tried Sony Supremas, Kodak Ultima 80, Packard Bell 1-32x). The messages I get are all minor variations on the following, and the commands minor variations on cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data image-name (burnfree ON,OFF; multi, no multi,etc) Under win 98 the drive writes without any problem to the same CD-R disks refused by cdrecord. What the h**l is going on? Could the error message below - Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error).. mean that the cdrecord power settings are not correct for CD-Rs (but OK for CD-RWs) for this Sony writer? If so, what to do about it? DougB Output of cdrecord on a failed CD-R write: Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 3.693s timeout 60s cdrecord: OPC failed. Writing time:3.711s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 0 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gmplayer
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:31:24 -0400 Phil G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm using Mozilla, and it has under Helper Applications for mime type video/x-ms-asf to open with /usr/bin/gmplayer. Yes, by locks up I mean I can't do anything but wait. Well, ALT-TAB brings up the box with the open applications but nothing happens when I let go of the keys other than the box goes away - regardless of which icon was highlighted when I let go. I'm inclined to agree with James, tho I see conspiracies everywhere and blame MS for most things, including global warming, s... Like Sherlock Holmes said, if you eliminate all other possibilities...something something something...then whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth. If your browser will play streaming media of a similar format from other sites without problem, then you can focus the blame on this site and MS software in particular. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ We have reason to be afraid. This is a terrible place. -- John Berryman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Copied Audio CD's - 70 Minutes of Silence!?!?
This is bizarre. I've copied some of my audio CD's (for back-up purposes, of course ;-) using the copy CD facility in K3B on 9.1. The copies completed without error, but when I go to play them in a CD player, the disc is identified, the number and lengths of tracks reported OK, the tracks start playing OK, but there is no sound!!! Albums full of 3.5 minute slices of perfect silence, neatly moving through the track listings, playing to their correct length, before stopping at the end!!! But not even a blip on the level meters! Now, I know that the arty set are into this sort of thing, but I'm not. What happened Yes, I've checked the CD player works (on the originals), there's no copy protection on the CD's (too old for that), my CD-R drive and DVD drive also give me silence (CDDB works though). Now, I KNOW that CD copies are done by ripping data / writing data through the IDE interface, but it's almost like tape-deck dubbing without the audio cable between the decks :-) Funnily enough, I don't have an audio cable installed on one of the drives I used in the copy... The only thing I can think of is a problem with K3B / cdrecord / cdrao / whatever. I'm using various PLF and Tex packages for most of these. Before trying to hunt it down, has anyone else hit this? Any other suggestions? Cheers! John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Fwd: arrrgghhh
lorne wrote: On Wednesday 24 September 2003 08:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 2:45 pm, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 12:53, Anne Wilson wrote: I am using Gnome as my desktop. The program says I do not own it, so I found file manager super user mode..It did not ask me for my root password, snip James, I'm puzzled why FileManager SUMode didn't ask for the root password. Would this happen if he hadn't created any users? Could that be the real problem? It's trying to know what to ask him that's my problem. Anne Anne, File Manager Super User Mode doesn't ask and DOESN'T put you into su mode in Gnome, though it does both in KDE, at least on my 9.1 installation. Dunno why. It's not a question of having logged in as root. I've made a note of this in one of the TWiki entries somewhere. DougB That's incredible! There isn't much point in it, in that case. I wonder if he would be prepared to stick to kde until he has things up and running and explore other dms later. I'll suggest it to him. hahah yup. I have another one for you. Make a super duper encrypted file system with a minimum of 16 characters. So when it is booted or mounted it requires a password. (naturally) Now, open the control center and go into mount points and mount the d#@ thing. No password! I was pretty much blown away by that, but I guess they figure if you are root, you should be able to mount anything. Kind of defeats the whole purpose in my mind. :) Anne Looks like another few reasons *not* to use Gnome... I have never liked it anyhow, Looks crap and clunky to use/configure -- Alex Fisher OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Community Contact, Australia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 BR Richard On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 14:48, Eric Fernandez wrote: Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1. The onboard network card was found but the interface eth0 would'nt come up as it complained the device was busy. So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139 clone. Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming. The card is OK , checked on another machine. However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive. This makes me a little suspicious !, Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and pray . Thanks Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Try two things : - in the bios : Plug and Play OS should be set to No - when booting : boot zith option noapic (at boot, press esc, then type the name of your lilo entry followed by noapic. Eric __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: evolution 1.4 printing prob.
Richard Bown wrote: Hi, upgraded Evolution to 1.4.4 off of the club site. Although I can change the displayed font, I cant change the printed font , which looks horrible. The printed font is changeable in size but not the font style., which I hav'nt seen before. sorta squiggly with bits missing off letters . Its very difficult to read, and I cant get back to the version I had before as about 40 files were changed. I'm also limited to about 36 characters /line when sending a message Any ideas, this is a real pain :( TIA Richard Get rid of Evolution? (or should it be renamed?) -- Alex Fisher OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Community Contact, Australia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 06:12, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 22:30 schrieb Rolf Pedersen: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 3:33 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [...] Yes, Anne, I saw that. What I am thinking of is that both the reader, if you have one, and the writer must be scsi-emulated for some apps to work. Here is a post where such advice to make the reader also scsi-emulated for k3b to work is mentioned: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jul/2997.html I had some similar problem with my ide-writer. The problem is partialy in the ide-cd module wich is loaded before the ide-scsi module. As root I had to unload the ide-cd and the ide-scsi module and after loading ide-scsi again k3b works again (at least on my system). Rolf Martin I have now enabled scsi-emulation on the reader as well and I have been able to burn to disk, however if I try to read the disk in the reader it reports that the drive is locked if I place the disk into the cdrw and then click on the icon for the reader I can then see the contents of the disk even though the disk is in the other drive??? I guess things are a little bit messed up, but never mind at least I can now back up my work and start again. Many thanks for all your help, Dave. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?
On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 9:30 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Rolf, he already has hdd=ide-scsi in his lilo.conf. I wonder if he has checked that it really is hdd - though I can't see why it should have changed. It's worth checking also, that XCDRoast can't do what he needs. k3b doesn't work correctly on my system and xcdroast has no problem at all. Anne Yes, Anne, I saw that. What I am thinking of is that both the reader, if you have one, and the writer must be scsi-emulated for some apps to work. Here is a post where such advice to make the reader also scsi-emulated for k3b to work is mentioned: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jul/2997.html The crazy thing is that under 9.0, k3b could handle the ide cd drive and xcdroast couldn't. Now it seems to be the other way round. Although it has an old-fashioned look I personally have always got on well with xcdroast, and my ide drive is also my dvd drive. Everything functions well as it is, so I have no intentions of upsetting anything by using scsi-em with that drive - it simply isn't worth it. Anyway, that's probably irrelevant to this thread. I just wanted to suggest that it was worth looking at xcdroast, since if that does work it rules out some possible causes, like problems with the basic burning packages. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 12:47 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] To All
I have gone through the archives and read some of the responses to my, er, tirade, and would like to say some things about what happened. First, I have apologized privately to Vincent for attacking him (and Wofgang, I haven't touched Win unless absolutely necessary in over 2 years...so I don't know where you get Wintroll... ;-)) and I would like to explain my actions in at least one respect, which I did to Vincent, and I understand and accepted his response. I am relatively new to the Expert list. My primary interaction has been through the Newbie list, which apparently is more freewheeling, to say the least. On several occasions there, I was attacked quite viciously for off-the-cuff remarks about anything from corporate greed (I was called a socialist idiot) to gun control (I was flamed ad nauseum on that one...). *Not one person complained or came to my defense. Nor did I complain to anyone or ask to have someone banned.* Therefore, it was with some shock and surprise that what I saw as a one-off back-hand to someone I felt was being pompous, rightly or wrongly, met with such outrage and disdain. Hence my what a bunch of baloney post. Anyhow, I hope that all the filters can be turned off, apparently the Expert list is subject to different rules than the Newbie list (not that I will use that as an excuse to use profanity there either), and I will abide by those, expecting no less from anyone else, as Vincent posted, a little judgement and respect for *all*. For whatever it's worth, I apologize, and promise to be a good boy from now on. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. -- Oscar Wilde, The Portrait of Mr. W.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] To All
This seems more than reasonable Thanks! I accept the apology. ( my recommendation was for the profanity ) HaywireMac wrote: I have gone through the archives and read some of the responses to my, er, tirade, and would like to say some things about what happened. First, I have apologized privately to Vincent for attacking him (and Wofgang, I haven't touched Win unless absolutely necessary in over 2 years...so I don't know where you get Wintroll... ;-)) and I would like to explain my actions in at least one respect, which I did to Vincent, and I understand and accepted his response. I am relatively new to the Expert list. My primary interaction has been through the Newbie list, which apparently is more freewheeling, to say the least. On several occasions there, I was attacked quite viciously for off-the-cuff remarks about anything from corporate greed (I was called a socialist idiot) to gun control (I was flamed ad nauseum on that one...). Not one person complained or came to my defense. Nor did I complain to anyone or ask to have someone banned.* Therefore, it was with some shock and surprise that what I saw as a one-off back-hand to someone I felt was being pompous, rightly or wrongly, met with such outrage and disdain. Hence my what a bunch of baloney post. Anyhow, I hope that all the filters can be turned off, apparently the Expert list is subject to different rules than the Newbie list (not that I will use that as an excuse to use profanity there either), and I will abide by those, expecting no less from anyone else, as Vincent posted, a little judgement and respect for *all*. For whatever it's worth, I apologize, and promise to be a good boy from now on. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA == Dual booting 98lite;MDK 9.1 stock kernel Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 liquid/acqua Theme == If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Multiple scdx for two drivers
I am testing 9.2 rc2 in a Pentium 4 2,3 GHz with 256Mb Ram and the next ide devices: hda: harddrive 80Gb hdb: cd-rom driver hdc: CDRW: HL-DT-ST GCE-8480B hdd: DVDRW: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R5002 Installation OK but in dmesg I can see that hdc and hdd appears replayed several times (6 times each) and you can see the scd0 to scd11 devices. In Drakxtools if you choose to configure your cd-drivers devices appear 6 times each one. In fact just hda and hdb are accessibles. Could be any problem with the rc2 kernel? Any help will be very welcome. Thanks a lot in advance. Yours sincerely. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Printing from RC2...
Hi all, Since installing RC2 I've not been able to print. The printer I use is a samba share located on a Mandrake 8.2 server running samba. Its been this way for over a year now and has/is working perfectly. Which leads me to believe the problem is indeed within RC2 on the workstation. ( its really the only problem this version seems to have. ) RC1 and beta2 had no problem at all printing to this samba shared printer. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this problem and if so, what did you do to correct the problem? -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] To All
mike schrieb am Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:00:26 -0500: This seems more than reasonable Thanks! I accept the apology. ( my recommendation was for the profanity ) I second that and I'd like to express that such an apology earns a lot of respect. As to the Wintroll thing: I was a bit infected from staying in the Mandrake newsgroup too long, where a lot of real Wintrolls stop and say Hi frequently. Hence my reaction. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
Hi I do have An Abit BE7 with on board Nic and it does work fine with 9.1 with no fuss generic kernel or recompiled. Andre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printing from RC2...
Mark Weaver wrote: Hi all, Since installing RC2 I've not been able to print. The printer I use is a samba share located on a Mandrake 8.2 server running samba. Its been this way for over a year now and has/is working perfectly. Which leads me to believe the problem is indeed within RC2 on the workstation. ( its really the only problem this version seems to have. ) RC1 and beta2 had no problem at all printing to this samba shared printer. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this problem and if so, what did you do to correct the problem? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi Update to today's cooker (use the main and contrib sources from cooker see plf.zarb.org/~nanardon) Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Copied Audio CD's - 70 Minutes of Silence!?!?
This is bizarre. I've copied some of my audio CD's (for back-up purposes, of course ;-) using the copy CD facility in K3B on 9.1. The copies completed without error, but when I go to play them in a CD player, the disc is identified, the number and lengths of tracks reported OK, the tracks start playing OK, but there is no sound!!! Albums full of 3.5 minute slices of perfect silence, neatly moving through the track listings, playing to their correct length, before stopping at the end!!! But not even a blip on the level meters! Now, I know that the arty set are into this sort of thing, but I'm not. What happened Just some wild stabs in the dark with a shopping bag on my head, but have you tried: 1) Playing the ripped WAV files? 2) Checking if the WAVs are being normalized to silence? 3) Is it by any chance a Simon/Garfunkel tribute? :D Yes, I've checked the CD player works (on the originals), there's no copy protection on the CD's (too old for that), my CD-R drive and DVD drive also give me silence (CDDB works though). Now, I KNOW that CD copies are done by ripping data / writing data through the IDE interface, but it's almost like tape-deck dubbing without the audio cable between the decks :-) Funnily enough, I don't have an audio cable installed on one of the drives I used in the copy... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] To All
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:49:47 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I second that and I'd like to express that such an apology earns a lot of respect. As to the Wintroll thing: I was a bit infected from staying in the Mandrake newsgroup too long, where a lot of real Wintrolls stop and say Hi frequently. Hence my reaction. Thanks Wolfy! grin -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Happiness is having a scratch for every itch. -- Ogden Nash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No mouse after installing Mandrake 9.1
Using 'dmesg |grep 12' and 'lspci' I figured out that the USB controller had taken the mouse interrupt. Turning off legacy USB support in the BIOS fixed it! Cheers, Robin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] hdparm values
I have two hard disks 20 gb seagate and 40 gb samsung. I see in BIOS they are
100 ATA. However when I use hdparm, i get follwing results.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount= 16 (on)
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq= 1 (on)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 2434/255/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.37 seconds =345.95 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.17 seconds = 15.35 MB/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST320413A, FwRev=3.39, SerialNo=6ED1JBLC
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39102336
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4
I have following lines in dmesg.
blk: queue c03cb420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
blk: queue c03cb55c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
hdparm -X 69 /dev/hda also doesn't help.
but for the same hdd, with mercury mb and 815 chipset, in mdk91, I used to get
buffered disk reads nearly 29 MB/s.
Now also in knoppix32, I get the following.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount= 16 (on)
I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq= 0 (off)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
nowerr = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 2434/255/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0
busstate = 1 (on)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.36 seconds =355.56 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.40 seconds = 26.67 MB/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST320413A, FwRev=3.39, SerialNo=6ED1JBLC
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39102336
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive Supports : Reserved : ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4
here it is udma5 where as in mdk it is udma2 only.
I tried /etc/sysconfig/harddisks with X 69. still no use. Any help to change
udma and speed will be appreciated.
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[expert] cron error
I get following error for cron. Sep 25 05:15:30 lvghomepc anacron[1940]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2003-09-25 Sep 25 05:16:08 lvghomepc kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. Sep 25 05:16:15 lvghomepc anacron[1651]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output) I have parallel port. why this spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7? I dont get lp in lsmod also. what to do? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printing from RC2...
Eric Fernandez wrote: Mark Weaver wrote: Hi all, Since installing RC2 I've not been able to print. The printer I use is a samba share located on a Mandrake 8.2 server running samba. Its been this way for over a year now and has/is working perfectly. Which leads me to believe the problem is indeed within RC2 on the workstation. ( its really the only problem this version seems to have. ) RC1 and beta2 had no problem at all printing to this samba shared printer. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this problem and if so, what did you do to correct the problem? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi Update to today's cooker (use the main and contrib sources from cooker see plf.zarb.org/~nanardon) Eric Hi Eric, thanks for the info. I've just spent the past hour chasing this gremlin and come to find out that it appears the samba client packages did not install correctly which is why I'm having trouble accessing this share. Are you talking about updating all of the packages, or just the ones I need to make this work? -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:18:07 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 12:47 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I've got one on a PC Chips 820 mb that works fine. I didn't know it wasn't supposed to. Where's my hammer Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hdparm values
From: L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have two hard disks 20 gb seagate and 40 gb samsung. I see in BIOS they
are
100 ATA. However when I use hdparm, i get follwing results.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount= 16 (on)
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq= 1 (on)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 2434/255/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.37 seconds =345.95 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.17 seconds = 15.35 MB/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST320413A, FwRev=3.39, SerialNo=6ED1JBLC
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39102336
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4
I have following lines in dmesg.
blk: queue c03cb420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
blk: queue c03cb55c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
hdparm -X 69 /dev/hda also doesn't help.
but for the same hdd, with mercury mb and 815 chipset, in mdk91, I used to
get
buffered disk reads nearly 29 MB/s.
How about telling what kernel version you are running,
and what m/b and chipset do you have...?
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Re: [expert] To All
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 08:39:24AM -0400, HaywireMac wrote:
I never expected, nor requested, this kind of message to the list so I just
want to thank you for stepping forward and doing it. Takes a lot of guts to
do it. =)
I have gone through the archives and read some of the responses to my,
er, tirade, and would like to say some things about what happened.
First, I have apologized privately to Vincent for attacking him (and
Wofgang, I haven't touched Win unless absolutely necessary in over 2
years...so I don't know where you get Wintroll... ;-)) and I would like
to explain my actions in at least one respect, which I did to Vincent,
and I understand and accepted his response.
I am relatively new to the Expert list. My primary interaction has been
through the Newbie list, which apparently is more freewheeling, to say
the least. On several occasions there, I was attacked quite viciously
for off-the-cuff remarks about anything from corporate greed (I was
called a socialist idiot) to gun control (I was flamed ad nauseum on
that one...). *Not one person complained or came to my defense. Nor did
I complain to anyone or ask to have someone banned.*
Therefore, it was with some shock and surprise that what I saw as a
one-off back-hand to someone I felt was being pompous, rightly or
wrongly, met with such outrage and disdain. Hence my what a bunch of
baloney post.
Anyhow, I hope that all the filters can be turned off, apparently the
Expert list is subject to different rules than the Newbie list (not that
I will use that as an excuse to use profanity there either), and I will
abide by those, expecting no less from anyone else, as Vincent posted, a
little judgement and respect for *all*.
For whatever it's worth, I apologize, and promise to be a good boy from
now on.
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Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 3:54 pm, Andre Labbe wrote: Hi I do have An Abit BE7 with on board Nic and it does work fine with 9.1 with no fuss generic kernel or recompiled. Andre To help others, could you add that to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? If you haven't used TWiki before you may find this helpful: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TWikiFirst (for those wanting more detail there is http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TWikiHowTo ) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thursday 25 September 2003 08:18 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne Hmm, did I miss a thread somewhere grin? The onboard NIC for my Soyo Dragon Plus MB works fine. Or did, before I got a Dlink router - I was using it with a Linksys NIC to get cable-modem service and sending it to my LAN. This was under v9.1 of Mandrake. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 5:32 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2003 08:18 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne Hmm, did I miss a thread somewhere grin? The onboard NIC for my Soyo Dragon Plus MB works fine. Or did, before I got a Dlink router - I was using it with a Linksys NIC to get cable-modem service and sending it to my LAN. This was under v9.1 of Mandrake. There's no mention of that motherboard on the harware compatibility page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Please pleading could you add it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] too many sgi_fam connections
I had a startup problem with Mandrake 9.1 - the /var/log/messages file was being filled with lines like: Sep 25 06:21:06 phoebus xinetd[1909]: warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected Sep 25 06:21:07 phoebus xinetd[1909]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address It was stuck and both /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure were increasing by megabytes each few minutes. There is a lot of discussion in the various lists about this, but no solution has been posted that I can find. It's been posted as Bugzilla bug #749, and questions about it go back at least until Apr 2002. It's been reported that this only happens with msec level 4 only happening on systems with msec level 4, but folks have probably only noticed the problem when hosts.deny gets updated going to level 4. If you modify the xinetd.d/fam file to include the line flags = NOLIBWRAP, and now I get this message at boot (KDE or other desktop not yet started): Sep 25 06:13:04 er0 xinetd[1110]: Deactivating service sgi_fam due to excessive incoming connections. Restarting in 30 seconds. After checking older entries, it looks like xinetd was always deactivating 'fam' during boot. One time, though, it didn't, and the system didn't come up. So the real problem is that some process is trying to access 'fam' at boot in an uncontrolled fashion, and when 'hosts.deny' contains a control, this process is somehow sending a request without an identifyable address. So this probably has to do with the boot sequence. Any ideas apart from dumping 'fam'? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] TightVNC and WM
I am running TightVNC under a new install of Mandrake 9.1 with 256MB ram. I boot Mandrake at runlevel 3. If I start vncserver at the the command prompt, then IceWM is served up when I access it from a client. If I startx and then open a command window and run vncserver, I get KDE when I login from a client. The command in both cases is vncserver -geometry 800x600 -depth 16 :x. Is it going to different vnc startups based on whether or not I have x started? Even more troubling is trying to use it. Under Ice I get the start button but Mandrake Control Center won't come up. Under KDE, I get the wallpaper and the clipboard and calendar icons and nothing else. It appears hung at that point. Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thursday 25 September 2003 12:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: There's no mention of that motherboard on the harware compatibility page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Please pleading could you add it? Anne Well, I tried - got an error message saying it was locked'. I'll try again later. Should I try to put it under the MB or network card section? (or both?) PS and no need to beg! Your wish is our command smile, and thank YOU for helping maintain such a great Linux reference point! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] HP netserver E45
Hi there. After installing mandrake 9.1 and reboot Mandrake reports "cant locate fb0" and there are alot of activity on my HD but nothing happends. Have tryed with another display adapter, but same error. Anyone who can help me?? Regards , Terje. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
OK Anne I'm going over there tonight to try and sort out the other machine he's using as a gateway with adsl and a usb modem.. Got it going once but shorewall was playing silly B's. I'll make a note of the chip set and brand of motherboard BR Richard On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 13:18, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 12:47 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] TightVNC and WM
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:20:45 -0500 H. Carter Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I am running TightVNC under a new install of Mandrake 9.1 with 256MB ram. I boot Mandrake at runlevel 3. If I start vncserver at the the command prompt, then IceWM is served up when I access it from a client. If I startx and then open a command window and run vncserver, I get KDE when I login from a client. The command in both cases is vncserver -geometry 800x600 -depth 16 :x. Is it going to different vnc startups based on whether or not I have x started? Even more troubling is trying to use it. Under Ice I get the start button but Mandrake Control Center won't come up. Under KDE, I get the wallpaper and the clipboard and calendar icons and nothing else. It appears hung at that point. Any suggestions? You want to create a startup script on the server in ~/.vnc called xstartup, and make it executable. mine looks like this: #!/bin/sh # Mandrake Linux VNC session startup script Esetroot -b darkblue exec ~/cvs/pekwm/src/pekwm for IceWM, use whatever path and executable is appropriate. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Good-bye. I am leaving because I am bored. -- George Saunders' dying words Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Terje Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hi there. After installing mandrake 9.1 and reboot Mandrake reports cant locate fb0 and there are alot of activity on my HD but nothing happends. Have tryed with another display adapter, but same error. Anyone who can help me?? Sounds like it's trying to boot from a floppy...how did you do the install, did you boot from a CD? It might be a problem with LILO, try booting from the CD and hit F1 to configure LILO to boot from the HD. I don't think it's your display adapter. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
Ohh... Thanks for this fast reply. I booted from the cd, installed Mandrake 9,1 and when the installation was finished I rebooted. During startup I could see the error message that lilo could not locate fb0. Terje..HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT)Terje Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>uttered: Hi there. After installing mandrake 9.1 and reboot Mandrake reports "cant locate fb0" and there are alot of activity on my HD but nothing happends. Have tryed with another display adapter, but same error. Anyone who can help me??Sounds like it's trying to boot from a floppy...how did you do theinstall, did you boot from a CD?It might be a problem with LILO, try booting from the CD and hit F1 toconfigure LILO to boot from the HD.I don't think it's your display adapter.-- HaywireMacRegistered Linux user #282046Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org++Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org++Do n ot believe in miracles -- rely on them.Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
[expert] Quick Mounting Question
Mandrake 9.1 and 9.0 (if I remember correctly) automatically mounts my vfat partitions without my interaction. Is it part of the installation that adds my partition info to /etc/fstab? Or is their a particular package responsible for this action? Thanks -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Terje Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hi there. After installing mandrake 9.1 and reboot Mandrake reports cant locate fb0 and there are alot of activity on my HD but nothing happends. Have tryed with another display adapter, but same error. Anyone who can help me?? Sounds like it's trying to boot from a floppy...how did you do the install, did you boot from a CD? nope. the floppy is fd0 the framebuffer is fb0 It might be a problem with LILO, try booting from the CD and hit F1 to configure LILO to boot from the HD. I don't think it's your display adapter. I would say it is ... try to boot with vga=normal... What graphic cards do you have? Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Terje Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ohh... Thanks for this fast reply. I booted from the cd, installed Mandrake 9,1 and when the installation was finished I rebooted. During startup I could see the error message that lilo could not locate fb0. well, like I said, try booting from the CD and hit F1, you should see an option to configure LILO properly to boot from the HD. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Nothing matters very much, and few things matter at all. -- Arthur Balfour Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
Hi Thomas. It's emedded on the motherboard and it's cirrius 5446 I think...Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "HaywireMac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Terje Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>uttered: Hi there. After installing mandrake 9.1 and reboot Mandrake reports "cant locate fb0" and there are alot of activity on my HD but nothing happends. Have tryed with another display adapter, but same error. Anyone who can help me?? Sounds like it's trying to boot from a floppy...how did you do the install, did you boot from a CD? nope. the floppy is fd0the framebuffer is fb0 It might be a problem with LILO, try booting from the CD and hit F1 to configure LILO to boot from the HD. I don't think it's your display adapter. I would say it is ...try to boot with vga=normal...What graphic cards do you have?RegardsThomasWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
I will try to install from the start again. ( because I was about to install nt) aghh Just have to eat a little bit first.. :-) TerjeHaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT)Terje Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>uttered: Ohh... Thanks for this fast reply. I booted from the cd, installed Mandrake 9,1 and when the installation was finished I rebooted. During startup I could see the error message that lilo could not locate fb0.well, like I said, try booting from the CD and hit F1, you should see anoption to configure LILO properly to boot from the HD.-- HaywireMacRegistered Linux user #282046Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org++Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org++Nothing matters very much, and few things matter at all.-- Arthur BalfourWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [expert] Copied Audio CD's - 70 Minutes of Silence!?!?
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 07:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is bizarre. I've copied some of my audio CD's (for back-up purposes, of course ;-) using the copy CD facility in K3B on 9.1. The copies completed without error, but when I go to play them in a CD player, the disc is identified, the number and lengths of tracks reported OK, the tracks start playing OK, but there is no sound!!! Albums full of 3.5 minute slices of perfect silence, neatly moving through the track listings, playing to their correct length, before stopping at the end!!! But not even a blip on the level meters! Now, I know that the arty set are into this sort of thing, but I'm not. What happened Just some wild stabs in the dark with a shopping bag on my head, but have you tried: 1) Playing the ripped WAV files? 2) Checking if the WAVs are being normalized to silence? 3) Is it by any chance a Simon/Garfunkel tribute? :D 4) checking aumix and kmix to make sure that sound isn't at 0 in them. Yes, I've checked the CD player works (on the originals), there's no copy protection on the CD's (too old for that), my CD-R drive and DVD drive also give me silence (CDDB works though). Now, I KNOW that CD copies are done by ripping data / writing data through the IDE interface, but it's almost like tape-deck dubbing without the audio cable between the decks :-) Funnily enough, I don't have an audio cable installed on one of the drives I used in the copy... __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HP netserver E45
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:19:17 +0300 Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: nope. the floppy is fd0 the framebuffer is fb0 d'oh! sorry...shouldn't 've had that last hit... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: if you're alive, it isn't. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 08:45, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:18:07 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 12:47 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I've got one on a PC Chips 820 mb that works fine. I didn't know it wasn't supposed to. Where's my hammer Lee Can I borrow it when you are done got a lot of boxes to mend James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Quick Mounting Question
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:15, Brian wrote: Mandrake 9.1 and 9.0 (if I remember correctly) automatically mounts my vfat partitions without my interaction. Is it part of the installation that adds my partition info to /etc/fstab? Or is their a particular package responsible for this action? Thanks -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's during the portion of the install (in expert mode) where you partition the hdd's that this is added ... if you are using the auto mode then it just says Oh a vfat partition ... and adds it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Stopping cron e-mail
All, For 90% of my cron jobs... I want the e-mail however one job that runs hourly (webalizer) is useless. Does anyone know how to turn off the e-mail feature for just this job? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Stopping cron e-mail
James Sparenberg wrote: All, For 90% of my cron jobs... I want the e-mail however one job that runs hourly (webalizer) is useless. Does anyone know how to turn off the e-mail feature for just this job? James Try using the following: 7 * * * * /usr/local/bin/webalizer -c /sysadm/data/webalizer/JunkMail/webalizer.conf /dev/null 21 The key is to send the output to /dev/null the 21 also redirects any errors to this wonderful file as well! HTH. -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1. The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus), expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications which are communicating on the Server. Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package (from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above). So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the Expected results? -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gmplayer
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:29:07 -0400, HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:31:24 -0400 Phil G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm using Mozilla, and it has under Helper Applications for mime type video/x-ms-asf to open with /usr/bin/gmplayer. Yes, by locks up I mean I can't do anything but wait. Well, ALT-TAB brings up the box with the open applications but nothing happens when I let go of the keys other than the box goes away - regardless of which icon was highlighted when I let go. I'm inclined to agree with James, tho I see conspiracies everywhere and blame MS for most things, including global warming, s... Wouldn't surpise me either. Like Sherlock Holmes said, if you eliminate all other possibilities...something something something...then whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth. If your browser will play streaming media of a similar format from other sites without problem, then you can focus the blame on this site and MS software in particular. I'll try another site (once I find one). But I don't see how this forced wait would cause the whole pc to lock up. Shouldn't just the gmplayer jobs lock up? Anyhow, thanks for the input. I'll keep at it. Phil -- Using Mandrake Linux 9.1 www.mandrakesoft.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1. The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus), expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications which are communicating on the Server. Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package (from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above). So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the Expected results? We don't :) Check the other openssh related threads of this past week or so...you'll see Vincent's reasoning as of why there's not and will not be a 3.7.1 in mdk. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] still struggling with the HP netserver E45, puhhhh
Have tried to install mandrake 9.1 for the 5 tile with no success. booting from the cd, installing everything and it looks good until I reboot. Then the machine goes to the login window (still ok) login, pass ok then appears the info window regarding starting KDE after some seconds it seems that the HD is going "bananas" (writing ,writing ,writing ,writing og reading, reading ,reading, reading ) until I turn the power off.. Noticed that I got an error message durin boot. : Modprobe: Cant locate fb0. please help me someone. Terje. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 04:51:58PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote:
I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to
me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1.
The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus),
expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications
which are communicating on the Server.
Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest
version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package
(from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version
supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above).
So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the
Expected results?
If you come up with a good idea, let me know.
Changing the version number of openssh to 3.7.1p2 (when it's in fact
3.6.1p2) isn't a good idea.
I also take the results given from scanners like nessus with a grain of
salt... there's only so much a version number can tell you.
--
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[expert] Kmix Start
Hi Experts I have the following problem. I use the kmix in the tray, on mandrake 9.0 i could make the system save my desktop when i want, but now on 9.1 i can´t. Well, the thing is that if i shutdown or restart my laptop, the kmix returns on mute. Even if i close the session with it at 100% volume. So, anyone can tell me how can i set kmix to start on a certain volume everytime?? i tried looking at kmixrc but didn´t find any clue. Thanks for the time -- Gonzalo Avaria S. Linux User from the end of the World CHILE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] still struggling with the HP netserver E45, puhhhh
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 15:31, Terje Heen wrote: Have tried to install mandrake 9.1 for the 5 tile with no success. booting from the cd, installing everything and it looks good until I reboot. Then the machine goes to the login window (still ok) login, pass ok then appears the info window regarding starting KDE after some seconds it seems that the HD is going bananas (writing ,writing ,writing ,writing og reading, reading ,reading, reading ) until I turn the power off.. Noticed that I got an error message durin boot. : Modprobe: Cant locate fb0. please help me someone. Terje. Terje, try this one when lilo comes up push the escape key. Now boot linux 3 this will boot you into runlevel 3. If this doesn't work do a normal boot but don't login. The do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a term window and login as root then type # telinit 3 then you will want to vi /etc/lilo.conf and look for a line like this vga=788 or vga=791 change it to vga=normal save and then at the command prompt type lilo (to reset lilo for your changes.) this will allow you to boot normal not using frame buffer (fb0 is frame buffer) reboot the computer and you should notice a normal bootup and the fb0 problem should be gone. What it seems is that the frame buffer resolution is not the correct one for what your box can do. 788 is 800x600 791 is 1024x768 and the rest I don't know. James PS Anyone know how to do the same thing with grub? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hdparm values
On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 9:08 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote:
From: L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have two hard disks 20 gb seagate and 40 gb samsung. I see in BIOS they
are
100 ATA. However when I use hdparm, i get follwing results.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount= 16 (on)
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq= 1 (on)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 2434/255/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.37 seconds =345.95 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 4.17 seconds = 15.35 MB/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST320413A, FwRev=3.39, SerialNo=6ED1JBLC
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs RotSpdTol.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39102336
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4
I have following lines in dmesg.
blk: queue c03cb420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
blk: queue c03cb55c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional.
hdparm -X 69 /dev/hda also doesn't help.
but for the same hdd, with mercury mb and 815 chipset, in mdk91, I used
to
get
buffered disk reads nearly 29 MB/s.
How about telling what kernel version you are running,
and what m/b and chipset do you have...?
I am running mandrake 9.1 with the shipped kernel, in asus a7n8x deluxe
motherboard with nvidia nforce2 chipset and amd athlon 2400+ with 256 mb ram.
I was only wondering when the same system is giving good transfer rate with
knoppix, what tweaking is needed in mandrake9.1 to get it?
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Re: [expert] still struggling with the HP netserver E45, puhhhh
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 15:31, Terje Heen wrote: Have tried to install mandrake 9.1 for the 5 tile with no success. booting from the cd, installing everything and it looks good until I reboot. Then the machine goes to the login window (still ok) login, pass ok then appears the info window regarding starting KDE after some seconds it seems that the HD is going bananas (writing ,writing ,writing ,writing og reading, reading ,reading, reading ) until I turn the power off.. Noticed that I got an error message durin boot. : Modprobe: Cant locate fb0. please help me someone. Terje. Terje, try this one when lilo comes up push the escape key. Now boot linux 3 this will boot you into runlevel 3. If this doesn't work do a normal boot but don't login. The do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a term window and login as root then type # telinit 3 then you will want to vi /etc/lilo.conf and look for a line like this vga=788 or vga=791 change it to vga=normal save and then at the command prompt type lilo (to reset lilo for your changes.) this will allow you to boot normal not using frame buffer (fb0 is frame buffer) reboot the computer and you should notice a normal bootup and the fb0 problem should be gone. What it seems is that the frame buffer resolution is not the correct one for what your box can do. 788 is 800x600 791 is 1024x768 and the rest I don't know. James PS Anyone know how to do the same thing with grub? I am not sure what you mean by the same thing *but* when you get the grub menu, the default is highlighted. Move to the entry you want to boot or leave it at default and press 'e' to edit the entry (this is one of the instructions that come with the menu screen). The first line will be highlighted and this is the one that contains vga=788, on my menu, anyway. Press 'e' again to edit that line or move to the line you want to edit and press 'e'. You can now add, delete, or change entries for that line. When you are done editing, press 'Enter' to accept the edit, edit another line, if you want, then type 'boot' and press 'Enter' to boot the edited entry. This is handy to try different kernel options without editing files. Also handy if you can't boot because of a typo in the menu or some wrong reference/syntax. I don't know if lilo has such a feature. If the change is what you want, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent. No need to reinstall grub. If you're asking if vga=normal is proper grub syntax, I have never used it *but* here is an archive that says it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg40532.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1. The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus), expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications which are communicating on the Server. Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package (from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above). So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the Expected results? We don't :) Check the other openssh related threads of this past week or so...you'll see Vincent's reasoning as of why there's not and will not be a 3.7.1 in mdk. Vox Thanks I'll do that, but this makes the jobs of Justify the Mandrake Package harder to swallow. Perhaps Gentoo is following the standards?? -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1. The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus), expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications which are communicating on the Server. Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package (from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above). So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the Expected results? We don't :) Check the other openssh related threads of this past week or so...you'll see Vincent's reasoning as of why there's not and will not be a 3.7.1 in mdk. Vox Thanks I'll do that, but this makes the jobs of Justify the Mandrake Package harder to swallow. Perhaps Gentoo is following the standards?? Uhmmwhat standards? The ones about updating openssh 3 times in 2 days because the version they put out to plug a security hole was rushed out the door and they added a new hole? or the one that got updated because the plug for the 2nd hole in 2 days had stuck in a 3rd hole and had to be updated again? Vincent backported the security patch to a known working version, and we didn't have to update the 2nd nor the 3rd time, only the first one. In my view, *that* justifies the Mandrake Package much much *much* more than the gentoo way. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
Vincent Danen wrote: On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 04:51:58PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote: I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1. The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus), expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications which are communicating on the Server. Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package (from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above). So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the Expected results? If you come up with a good idea, let me know. Changing the version number of openssh to 3.7.1p2 (when it's in fact 3.6.1p2) isn't a good idea. I also take the results given from scanners like nessus with a grain of salt... there's only so much a version number can tell you. In fact I do. First of all the Issues are CVE and Scanners matching Mandrake RPMs. We need to get a process or Database together to cordinate these tools. Nessus indicates that (and the CVEs reported against OpenSSH): You are running a version of OpenSSH which is older than 3.7.1 Versions older than 3.7.1 are vulnerable to a flaw in the buffer management functions which might allow an attacker to execute arbitrary commands on this host. An exploit for this issue is rumored to exist. Solution : Upgrade to OpenSSH 3.7.1 See also : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=106375452423794w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=106375456923804w=2 Risk factor : High CVE : CAN-2003-0693, CAN-2003-0695 BID : 8628 The problem is that the Versions don't match. Looks to me like we either need to indicate that this patched version is compatible with the 3.7.1 release in the vulnerablitlity report, OR we need a better Methodology for indicating which CVEs have been handled. We may not LIKE the NESSUS Scanner, but it currently is the MOST WIDELY Accepted Scanner available. Like it or not, Nessus is here to stay. I would like to have the confidence in the Mandrake Tools being the cutting Edge I always tell people that they are. If the Patches on OpenSSH, Sendmail, HTTP. I would understand if this was an isolated incident, but it's not. As it stands, those of us running Mandrake and having to run Scanners (any Scanner, it doesn't matter) to maintain a Security Policy are unable to correlate the Patched Mandrake RPMs against the 'Fixed' versions of the CVE Solutions. As I see it, we need to correlate the CVE Tables and the RPMs that Mandrake is providing as updates. If the Industry Standard is the CVE and their Solution, then we need to be able to correlate these reports to the MDKSA--###. As it stands right now, there is no easily identifable CVE to MDKSA table/tool/rpm guide Even the CVE information is contained in the middle of each of the MDKSAs under the reference information. Perhaps, have a Table for the Various OSs (I am a Silver Member), would permit us to review/print out the CVE information and the MDKSA information along with the RPM Information. This may be a GOOD First step at helping to get issues (apparently I'm not alone) identified and resolved. Certainly a Table is not s significant investment in time or efforts, and you probably have all of the information readily available already. MDKSA information is useful, but the rest of us are used to tracking issues based on CVEs. Thanks for a Great Product. Hopefully we can put issues like this to rest farily quickly. -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: Could you *please* not use HTML to post to the list? I can't read a thing of what you saidand by its lenght, it may be worth reading. So...post as plain text so we all can read what you say...and I'd actually like to see a repost of your mail in a readable format. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] To All
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 07:57, HaywireMac wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:49:47 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I second that and I'd like to express that such an apology earns a lot of respect. As to the Wintroll thing: I was a bit infected from staying in the Mandrake newsgroup too long, where a lot of real Wintrolls stop and say Hi frequently. Hence my reaction. Thanks Wolfy! grin Thank you for making nice. Sorry that I overreacted. Looked to me like it was about to turn into another one of the monster flamefests that got started over politics. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 11:13:23PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote:
My response will be short simply due to the fact that you posted in html and
I can't quote it and can't be bothered to cut-n-paste.
Every Mandrake advisory includes the CVE names for the correlating problem.
Trying using the CVE search mechanism on MandrakeSecure. That should be
adequate. Nessus tells you CVE-bla-bla, you go to MandrakeSecure and do the
CVE search for CVE-bla-bla, and immediately you find what advisories, if any
deal with that CVE name.
And contrary to your shouting, I have nothing against Nessus... I like it.
But I'm not gonna turn around name packages
openssh-3.6.1p2-CVE-2003--1.1mdk just so you can avoid using a very
simple search field on the website.
(BTW, this was implemented a *long* time ago)
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Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
My Apologies Vincent, I didn't mean to post in HTML, but XP Blew up last night on my laptop, and killed my Netscape preferences, I'm still recovering. Thantks, I';ve switched to Text mode. Vincent Danen wrote: On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 11:13:23PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote: My response will be short simply due to the fact that you posted in html and I can't quote it and can't be bothered to cut-n-paste. My apologies. Every Mandrake advisory includes the CVE names for the correlating problem. Trying using the CVE search mechanism on MandrakeSecure. That should be adequate. Nessus tells you CVE-bla-bla, you go to MandrakeSecure and do the CVE search for CVE-bla-bla, and immediately you find what advisories, if any deal with that CVE name. I think that having the CVE to MDKSA posted as a Table would be more beneifical. I'm sure that your developers have taken great strides to apply patches on the src rpms, all driven by the CVEs. I'm only asking for a table depicting the CVEs, and MDKSA (with the actual RPM Name) Per OS. And contrary to your shouting, I have nothing against Nessus... I like it. But I'm not gonna turn around name packages openssh-3.6.1p2-CVE-2003--1.1mdk just so you can avoid using a very simple search field on the website. I guess my point was missed. We don't want to perform queries. Unless the PHP or HTML Page we pull up from MandrakeSecure Queries the Data to sort it and correlate the CVEs and the MDKSAs (and RPM names). This is what the Management Teams want to see, one page (maybe more), of Vulnerabilities to Updates. Thus while you're going through the chart of vulnerabilities, we can EASILY Correlate one page to the report. Do you really want all of us querying the CVEs for each server?? Apologies if you thought that I was hollering, as I wasn't. Just thinking aloud to stress a point. We work with Mandrake and Nessus to make the Security Issues disappear. Making it easier to perform our duties benefits all of us. (BTW, this was implemented a *long* time ago) -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 20:29, Vincent Danen wrote: On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 11:13:23PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote: My response will be short simply due to the fact that you posted in html and I can't quote it and can't be bothered to cut-n-paste. Every Mandrake advisory includes the CVE names for the correlating problem. Trying using the CVE search mechanism on MandrakeSecure. That should be adequate. Nessus tells you CVE-bla-bla, you go to MandrakeSecure and do the CVE search for CVE-bla-bla, and immediately you find what advisories, if any deal with that CVE name. And contrary to your shouting, I have nothing against Nessus... I like it. But I'm not gonna turn around name packages openssh-3.6.1p2-CVE-2003--1.1mdk just so you can avoid using a very simple search field on the website. (BTW, this was implemented a *long* time ago) Haven't messed with Nessus recently, does it have or can it use a database backend for vulnerability information? I was thinking of how to automatically extract the CVE reference and Mandrake RPM version from your announcements (just the kind of insecure hack to a security system that warms the cockles of the corporate heart). -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On September 1993 plus 3676 days Albert Whale wrote: I guess my point was missed. We don't want to perform queries. Unless the PHP or HTML Page we pull up from MandrakeSecure Queries the Data to sort it and correlate the CVEs and the MDKSAs (and RPM names). This is what the Management Teams want to see, one page (maybe more), of Vulnerabilities to Updates. Thus while you're going through the chart of vulnerabilities, we can EASILY Correlate one page to the report. Do you really want all of us querying the CVEs for each server?? Apologies if you thought that I was hollering, as I wasn't. Just thinking aloud to stress a point. We work with Mandrake and Nessus to make the Security Issues disappear. Making it easier to perform our duties benefits all of us. Uhm...well, I just went to mdksecure and did a search on no item on the CVE search field (just put cursor in it and hit Go button). I see the CVE number, MDKSA number and description of the problem. Since I do keep everything up to date in all boxes I admin, I use that table for ok, said item is fixed, so I'm well...but maybe Vincent could be convinced (if he has the time, which I know is usually the biggest problem for him) to add the full rpm name for at least the last normal distro (9.1 as of today) and probably the 2 corporate servers (MNF8.2 and CS2.1 as of today) to that list. Or just add a page which displays the same thing as the blank search plus the rpm names for all currently supported distros. I don't know the internals of the database he's got with the advisories, so I can't say how easy or hard this can be. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 11:16:24PM -0500, Vox wrote:
I guess my point was missed. We don't want to perform queries.
Unless the PHP or HTML Page we pull up from MandrakeSecure Queries the
Data to sort it and correlate the CVEs and the MDKSAs (and RPM names).
This is what the Management Teams want to see, one page (maybe more),
of Vulnerabilities to Updates. Thus while you're going through the
chart of vulnerabilities, we can EASILY Correlate one page to the
report. Do you really want all of us querying the CVEs for each
server??
Apologies if you thought that I was hollering, as I wasn't. Just
thinking aloud to stress a point. We work with Mandrake and Nessus to
make the Security Issues disappear. Making it easier to perform our
duties benefits all of us.
Uhm...well, I just went to mdksecure and did a search on no item on
the CVE search field (just put cursor in it and hit Go button). I
see the CVE number, MDKSA number and description of the
problem. Since I do keep everything up to date in all boxes I admin,
I use that table for ok, said item is fixed, so I'm well...but
Cool... I didn't even know it did that. =)
maybe Vincent could be convinced (if he has the time, which I know
is usually the biggest problem for him) to add the full rpm name for
at least the last normal distro (9.1 as of today) and probably the 2
corporate servers (MNF8.2 and CS2.1 as of today) to that list. Or
just add a page which displays the same thing as the blank search
plus the rpm names for all currently supported distros. I don't know
the internals of the database he's got with the advisories, so I
can't say how easy or hard this can be.
That would be problematic. The database contains the info that appears in
the advisories, so the rpm listing is a text field that contains the path in
the updates tree as well as the md5sum. Creating the kind of table you want
from that is going to be problematic and intense... besides, something like
that should be relatively static anyways.
And what do we do in the case of XFree86 when there's over half a dozen
packages? Which package do we list?
I'm all for making things useful, but there has to be a reason for me to
spend the time other than one or two people asking. I mean, I need to
prioritize stuff. And considering you can get the entire list of CVE's
using the method you just mentioned, how difficult is it to hit CTRL-F in
your browser, search for your CVE name(s) and then click on the advisory
link to see the package listing? I can't imagine it to be too difficult.
I'm all for usefulness, but for me to spend so much time on something
because a few people are too lazy to click on a link is just ridiculous.
Not to say it wouldn't be nice to have, but I'd put this *way* down on my
priority list.
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Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 09:40:16PM -0400, Albert Whale wrote:
Can you fix your reply-to's as well? It's irksome that replies aren't going
to the list.
I am running a System Scan on Several machines. The interesting ones
to me are Linux Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1.
The issue here is that the Scanning Tools (here I am using Nessus),
expect a specific reply in order to accept or reject the applications
which are communicating on the Server.
Even though the Mandrake OpenSSH software is upgraded to the latest
version (openssh-server-3.6.1p2-1.1.82mdk) available for the package
(from Mandrake), this still does not reflect the package version
supportted for openssh (here being 3.7.1 and above).
So how do we simplify this Version Numbering and conform with the
Expected results?
We don't :) Check the other openssh related threads of this past
week or so...you'll see Vincent's reasoning as of why there's not
and will not be a 3.7.1 in mdk.
Thanks I'll do that, but this makes the jobs of Justify the Mandrake
Package harder to swallow. Perhaps Gentoo is following the standards??
Ummm... what standards? I didn't realize that upgrading to the latest
(broken) version of a software (three times) was a standard?
Seriously, there are darn good reasons for not jumping on the upgrade
bandwagon like Gentoo does. For right or wrong, this method of not jumping
to the latest version of something has saved us a *lot* of grief. Remember
the openssl vulns? Did you *really* want us to upgrade to the latest
version of openssl and have to recompile and re-ship everything that
depended on it? Sure, let's turn openssl into a 350MB+ download because we
have to rebuild parts of KDE amongst many other things just so that nessus
doesn't complain. Give me a break.
Justifying the Mandrake package? Please! Justify to whom? Your boss? Are
they seeing some fancy table on Red Hat's site that indicates package names,
CVE names, and RHSA advisory numbers? Maybe SuSE has this fancy table? Or
is it just Gentoo? No, wait. Gentoo doesn't have a fancy table. They just
make you upgrade three times (from *source* mind you) to get the thing
fixed.
Thanks, but I'll take the table-less backport that only needs to be done
once and use *that* as justification, thank you very much. Bean counters
who want excel spreadsheets really need to wake up. A little graph isn't
justification for a package or distribution. The quality of the
distribution and what it produces for *your* protection should be
justification enough.
But, hey, if you felt like recompiling openssh three times in two days on
your Gentoo boxes and your boss figured that was a good investment, all the
power to you.
Now that you think about this a little more, don't you just want to come to
the conclusion that this is all a little silly and that using a chart as
justification for an OS seems a little... crazy?
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Re: [expert] Security Updates - Versions DON'T MATCH CVEs
On Thu Sep 25, 2003 at 08:56:38PM -0700, Jack Coates wrote:
My response will be short simply due to the fact that you posted in html and
I can't quote it and can't be bothered to cut-n-paste.
Every Mandrake advisory includes the CVE names for the correlating problem.
Trying using the CVE search mechanism on MandrakeSecure. That should be
adequate. Nessus tells you CVE-bla-bla, you go to MandrakeSecure and do the
CVE search for CVE-bla-bla, and immediately you find what advisories, if any
deal with that CVE name.
And contrary to your shouting, I have nothing against Nessus... I like it.
But I'm not gonna turn around name packages
openssh-3.6.1p2-CVE-2003--1.1mdk just so you can avoid using a very
simple search field on the website.
(BTW, this was implemented a *long* time ago)
Haven't messed with Nessus recently, does it have or can it use a
database backend for vulnerability information? I was thinking of how to
automatically extract the CVE reference and Mandrake RPM version from
your announcements (just the kind of insecure hack to a security system
that warms the cockles of the corporate heart).
Smarter minds than mine will have to figure that out. I've used nessus for
scanning a few times, but never really looked at it's internals. I'm sure
you could probably accomplish something with NASL (I think that's what their
scripting language is called).
It would actually be pretty simple (I would think) to ask MandrakeSecure
about a CVE name and see if returns a mandrake advisory number and (for the
GUI junkies out there) make it a clickable link to the web advisory.
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