Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:08, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on www.madrakeusers.org that everyone it downloading awfully slow. Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until all the mirrors are not slashdotted! ;-) I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking the downloads. Most consumer oriented broadband services are half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download anything. I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and my download took off. I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s. On my cable system I am capped at 3000kbs down and 128 up (which translates to about 16KB/s up. If i use all my upstream bandwidth, I can't download anything. When I set --max_upload_rate to 13 it helped a lot. for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:49, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3696 days Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on www.madrakeusers.org that everyone it downloading awfully slow. Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until all the mirrors are not slashdotted! ;-) I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking the downloads. Most consumer oriented broadband services are half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download anything. I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and my download took off. I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s. I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent These errors occurred during execution: [00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max. run with no args for parameter explanations [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ Vox Same kind of prb here... I'm going to switch to the rpms from texstar and see if those work with this switch. right now I'm doing 8kbs up and 1 down. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote: for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out. yep, I got that too. I ended up editing the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file. hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 23:31, s wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote: for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out. yep, I got that too. I ended up editing the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file. hth, -s 2 questions... did it work? Where in the file? I'm assuming ('max_upload_rate', 0, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), Becomes ('max_upload_rate', 13, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:04:51 +0530 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Dell 1100 dual boot 9.1/win2k and VMware win2k all working fine. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] test - do not read.
So you mean it was this that I wasn't supposed to read, or one of the previous two? A :-{) Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I said don't read. Are you blind? - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jJwLb1CLurEA6xURAmxJAJ9k/xSbS7Cd2pJA876RLYUQPEI4HACdHZ8a LlvGWSJ0tq7GnUTeV0vSwn4= =GErY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] libgal
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:49 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Best of the middle ground worlds. do a urpmi checkinstall. Then do the normal configure and make. Then instead of make install do a checkinstall make install. This will build an rpm from the install process that you can now use to manage the box via rpm (add remove update etc.) The thing I'm curious about now that I've built this here RPM is: will it demand the necessary deps like an RPM built by a non-idiot? ie. someone really nuts downloads my RPM and does urpmi, is it going to say the usual to satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed...? Does checkinstall automagically build in those requirements, or do I have to somehow manually do that? I'd hate to release any buggy RPMs g. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The root of all superstition is that men observe when a thing hits, but not when it misses. -- Francis Bacon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:28 am, James Sparenberg wrote: for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. yep, I got that too. I ended up editing the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file. 2 questions... did it work? Where in the file? I'm assuming ('max_upload_rate', 0, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), Becomes ('max_upload_rate', 13, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), James yeah, pretty close to the top after all the froms. I changed max_uploads like so: defaults = [ ('max_uploads', None, 2, the maximum number of uploads to allow at once.), and max_rate like so: ('max_upload_rate', None, 13, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), that seemed to really help mine. I finished up about 5 this afternoon and after installing, I turned it back on. It's still uploading at 13. I'll leave it on as long as possible for folks. hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On September 1993 plus 3696 days James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 23:31, s wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote: for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out. yep, I got that too. I ended up editing the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file. hth, -s 2 questions... did it work? Where in the file? It works, I did it too after s mentioned it. It's on line 78 ('max_upload_rate', None, 0, 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'), You change the first 0 to 13 or whatever you want and it works. Just don't pass the --max_upload_rate switch to the command anymore after the change. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] libgal
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:21:32 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: They aren't MDK Lint compliant. (no changelog etc) but they are rpms that work on your system. Lint? Maybe when you see my other question... ;-) I'll go do some reading now, Texstar has an RPM how-to on PCLinuxOnline. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, The moon is more useful than the sun. Why?, he was asked. Because at night we need the light more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] refresh rate
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:22:58 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: is there a pointy-clicky way to change monitor refresh rates? I'm not in a big hurry to go messing with modlines. I found this site: http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines apparently, the max I can get for vsync at my desired res (1280x960) is 60 Hz. The stumbling block *appears* to be that my dot-clock is only 108. I have a Samsung 955DF and a GeForce4 Ti, but these are the maxes I can apparently get, which seems strange to me. ModeLine 1168x876 106.62 1168 1216 1456 1552 876 878 890 916 #75Hz ModeLine 1176x882 107.80 1176 1232 1512 1624 882 884 896 922 #72Hz ModeLine 1184x888 107.52 1184 1240 1520 1632 888 890 902 928 #71Hz ModeLine 1192x894 107.22 1192 1248 1528 1640 894 896 908 934 #70Hz Now, I installed the GF4 *after* having MDK already installed, is it possible that the dot-clock number provided by xvidtune is incorrect or can be changed? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ God instructs the heart, not by ideas, but by pains and contradictions. -- De Caussade Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:49 am, Vox wrote: I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent These errors occurred during execution: [00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max. run with no args for parameter explanations try btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 --responsefile /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:08, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on www.madrakeusers.org that everyone it downloading awfully slow. Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until all the mirrors are not slashdotted! ;-) I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking the downloads. Most consumer oriented broadband services are half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download anything. I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and my download took off. I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s. On my cable system I am capped at 3000kbs down and 128 up (which translates to about 16KB/s up. If i use all my upstream bandwidth, I can't download anything. When I set --max_upload_rate to 13 it helped a lot. for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out. Apparently you have to use the --responsefile switch to specify the torrent, otherwise it thinks the torrent file is an argument to the --max_upload_rate switch. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi graced me with: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000 (circa 2000), Celeron 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound, Actiontec Mini PCI 56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file system (except for /boot) and it seems to work well for me. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] new brain please: bittorrent
I'm going nuts ! I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer I have 2 icons, One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui. select either has no effect. trying from the command line with the test package [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin. I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS. What did I miss ?? TIA Richard -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
Mine is a Dell Inspiron 8100, NVidia Graphics, Pentium III 1ghz, 256 MB RAm.30Gb Harddrive (10NTFS, 10FAT32 shared writing btwn the two OS's, 10 Reiserfs, including root+boot)(Hitachi DK23DA), 3Com Mini PCI adapter, ACPI, LG DVD-ROm and TEAC CD-W216E, Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad mice (works out of the box) , ESS Maestro sound Works great! --- Paul M. Bucalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi graced me with: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000 (circa 2000), Celeron 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound, Actiontec Mini PCI 56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file system (except for /boot) and it seems to work well for me. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] DVD backup
Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] decoding DTMF
Hi! Could you tell me how can I decode DTMF codes with a sound card? Thanks, Gabor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:38, James Sparenberg wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! James Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network does block some ports.. I wonder, there is even a mention of Australian users on the club site..I will have a couple more trys.. Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility
I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if anyone can. It claims: 9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same computer simultaneously What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like Crossover or Win4Lin? Thanks! -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. -- Oscar Wilde, The Portrait of Mr. W.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:50:40 -0700, Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on www.madrakeusers.org that everyone it downloading awfully slow. I was pulling it down at 200KB/s most of the time. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 md5sums
I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur? 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD backup
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most cases double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is not trivial. That is true for both Linux and Windows. Doing this involves identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want, ripping the vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or plugin to DeCSS the vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if desired) at the same time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to vob files that are no longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and .ifo file to the DVD blank in the correct format. I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is not the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and it should remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the media) for your lifetime if not longer. Take a look at the DVDRip interface from PLF. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil
I have a corrupt tar file from way back: /stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ tar -xvf KEEP.TAR keep/ keep/c/ keep/c/arrays.c tar: Skipping to next header tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [...] Any idea how to get around this? I think the file is corrupt, as opposed to tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers since it's from ~1996 (which is not *that* long ago :). Try running file against the archive to determine if it's actually a tar archive: file KEEP.TAR If you see something like compressed then you'll need to either extract the file first then detar, or run tar with the 'z' switch: tar xfvz KEEP.TAR If it's just a regular tar file you can try opening it in an editor to get out the text parts. There's no compression in a regular archive. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] decoding DTMF
Could you tell me how can I decode DTMF codes with a sound card? There's a project in the following link that might do what you're looking for: http://telephonectld.sourceforge.net/ -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] More postfix testing...help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill up my inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific individuals: James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates. I request that the three of you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list. I have tried sending myself a few emails (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I SEE the messages transmit in gkrellm and in my syslog. All goes well but on that score but I never ever see them come back to me when fetchmail downloads from yahoo.com. I am wondering if there is a problem with my procmail setup, or postfix. I have also, on a few ocassions, seen a message arrive in my syslog (tail -f /var/log/syslog), see that it has been passed to procmail which then passes it to spamd. I see that spamassassin assigns it a number lower than my required setting for it to be identified as spam which means it should make it to my /var/spool/mail/praedor mailbox. It doesn't. It vanishes into the ether. I had two entries in /etc/procmailrc. The first was a list of emails/list addresses that were not to be passed to spamd. Any addresses not matching the list were passed to spamd for processing. This seemed to work, and it certainly does on my laptop, but it doesn't on my desktop (vanishing messages that are not spam being lost, perhaps dumped into /dev/null). I have since eliminated the specific procmailrc entry that would move mails identified as spam to /dev/null but the problem remains. My own email address (yahoo.com) is not in the do-not-process-through-spamd list so it should come in, go through spamd, not get tagged as spam, and end up in my local inbox. No joy. It fails to behave this way. I ask the above individuals (even just one of you would be fine) to send a reply to me directly at my yahoo address and let me know you have done so in the expert list so I will know. Hopefully it will arrive in my inbox as it should. I would appreciate the help, praedor - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jVX8b1CLurEA6xURAioeAJ0cnI0fbYykcJN4PF7Y1WI/M8q/aACdHOEw m5AK19JsxOR+oW3vv0fe2yc= =5NfL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] More postfix testing...help?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:13 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill up my inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific individuals: James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates. I request that the three of you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list. I have sent you the requested email reply. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD backup
Daniel Axtell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com contrib of cooker/9.2 contains k3b 0.10 CVS that supports DVD writing. I don't know the requirements to backup a whole DVD though. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Kernel Errors every Now and Then
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0082 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: *pde = Usually system hangs for a while, then after some minutes, goes back into operation mode. During hang, ofcourse, no ps or top or w, anything, so I cant really narrow down the problem. And also below is the kernel warning messages:: Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: printing eip: Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: c0165410 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Oops: Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: CPU:1 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP: 0010:[ext2_update_inode+864/944]Not tainted Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP: 0010:[c0165410]Not tainted Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: eax: c3b1df2c ebx: ecx: 402b4b78 edx: c3b1df2c Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: esi: e88b07e0 edi: 007e ebp: c3b1df00 esp: c3b1def4 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Process sshd (pid: 29803, stackpage=c3b1d000) Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Stack: e88b07e0 000a c3b1df40 c016572b c3b1df2c c3b1c000 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: 0200 c3b1c000 7fff 402b4b78 0009 007e Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:08048000 08086290 b820 0040 c0165ce4 000a c3b1df90 c3b1df84 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace: [ext2_ioctl+363/688] [ext2_mkdir+228/240] [udp_rcv+640/752] [syscall_trace+48/128] Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace: [c016572b] [c0165ce4] [c0208550] [c010c860] Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Code: 8b 5f 04 8d 77 08 8d 76 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 83 eb 18 8b ~ Does this give a clue to anyone? Or, can anyone offer advise into how to proceed to troubleshoot the problem? _Thanks much Richard bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.19-openmosix-7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #6 SMP Wed Aug 6 14:34:10 EDT 2003 nimbus@/var/log/kernel$ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 20638002051148 12652 0 1748841593856 -/+ buffers/cache: 2824081781392 Swap: 2015960 575321958428 bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2395.953 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm bogomips: 4784.12 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2395.953 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm bogomips: 4784.12 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:35 am, Mark wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:38, James Sparenberg wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! James Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network does block some ports.. I wonder, there is even a mention of Australian users on the club site..I will have a couple more trys.. Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the tracker cannot get your real ip address. There is a lot of discussion on the Club about this. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote: I'm going nuts ! I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer I have 2 icons, One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui. select either has no effect. trying from the command line with the test package [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin. I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS. What did I miss ?? Do you have Python installed? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:31 am, HaywireMac wrote: I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if anyone can. It claims: 9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same computer simultaneously What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like Crossover or Win4Lin? I think they mean dual-boot -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] More postfix testing...help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you. I am still waiting for it to appear (it's taking its sweet time). I'll give it a while before I assume it vanished into nowhere). On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:17 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:13 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill up my inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific individuals: James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates. I request that the three of you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list. I have sent you the requested email reply. - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jVsHb1CLurEA6xURAhqlAJ9+9U5DkqIdqiocg3kBFfkIDxkOEQCeOqUy /05yejVJgRLvMMw2KC7DvuU= =i0JM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 md5sums
Miark wrote: I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur? 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso Miark Look for danny's md5sums in the Club article. They seem to start out the same: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1251 Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network does block some ports.. I wonder, there is even a mention of Australian users on the club site..I will have a couple more trys.. Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the tracker cannot get your real ip address. There is a lot of discussion on the Club about this. Yes you are correct, may be they should have used a different port than 80, surely Australia is not the only country to have transparent proxys, on some of their ISPs. Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 14:12, Daniel Axtell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? Have a look at http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/index.html I think it will get you started HTH Pete ArdnamurchanScotland -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jWIDbAtXXQnVtr0RAnqPAJ9CdI7JjGErs9aG8k2Y4JM/yuociACfWDl8 qYQdDlGKdt796HdISDMBRl4= =m0dn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil
I have a corrupt tar file from way back: Try running file against the archive to determine if it's actually a tar archive: file KEEP.TAR It's definitely a tar file. Let's see what file says (never used that before) : /stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ file KEEP.TAR KEEP.TAR: POSIX tar archive On a tar i made just now, i get: /stuff/keep_huff_sort $ file tmp.tar tmp.tar: GNU tar archive Any idea if POSIX tar is actually different than GNU tar? file is a cool command... If it's just a regular tar file you can try opening it in an editor to get out the text parts. There's no compression in a regular archive.-- Yeah, i looked at it in emacs. But it's the figures in it i'm most likely to want. I dread the thought of plugging thru 11MB in a text editor trying grab out the pictures correctly. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK Bryan, your message has still not arrived and I see no sign of it in my syslogs so I think it is either bogged down on the net somewhere or has simply vanished. Here is an excerpt from my syslog indicating the arrival of two messages, neither of which has made it to my inbox: Oct 15 10:46:26 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: connect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: 22791831: client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[29494]: 22791831: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[6657]: 22791831: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5498, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 36976 Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: info: setuid to root succeeded Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: Still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set to root. Fall back to nobody. Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: processing message [EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534. Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: clean message (0.3/5.0) for root:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 5567 bytes. Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep postfix/local[29496]: 22791831: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN) Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] This is an excerpt showing an expert list message arriving that DOES make it to me: Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: connect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: 415DE831: client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[29333]: 415DE831: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[6657]: 415DE831: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=4102, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 15 09:37:09 stonekeep postfix/local[29334]: 415DE831: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN) Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] The lost messages are no where on my system. Not in root mailboxes, not in mine, not in any other possible. Where did they go? - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jWRTb1CLurEA6xURAsV+AJ4gQzu1B4FitIyV8NYSXkjLwP1fAACfVShy hjis6zrKs55Qt1/2MqZOA/8= =qb/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On 15. October 2003 at 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote: Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the tracker cannot get your real ip address. There is a lot of discussion on the Club about this. doesn't help this option? --ip/-i arg ip to report you have to the tracker. (defaults to '') -- member of Advanced InternetWorks group - http://www.ainetworks.sk professional home page - http://tibor.pittich.sk personal home page - http://c0re.phuture.sk pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless of whether they are spam or not. My current /etc/procmailrc contains: - --- :0: * !email address * !list address * !etc, etc * 256000 | spamc -f - It did have an additional entry that would check the mail headers for X-Spam-Status: Yes and pass such messages to /dev/null. I have eliminated it for now on the assumption that for some reason it wasn't work as intended and was passing ALL spamassassin-processed messages to /dev/null. It's removal has changed nothing, however, as I still fail to see any messages that come in and get passed through spamassassin. WHY?! I see, for instance, in my syslog an incoming message getting passed from fetchmail to postfix to procmail to spamd. I see it get assigned a number like 2.5 or - -100.5, etc, but it never arrives in my inbox (kmail) which is polling /var/spool/mail/praedor every couple minutes. Where is the message going? - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jWcKb1CLurEA6xURAjKgAJ4vNlk0D2VB9Dj7a+tKU+hIehzUtACg0GST W82XyvPjJVt8z4+x1FHRhsU= =3wnx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
Hi Greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python python-2.3-3mdk So yes its there Richard On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 15:30, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote: I'm going nuts ! I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer I have 2 icons, One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui. select either has no effect. trying from the command line with the test package [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin. I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS. What did I miss ?? Do you have Python installed? -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:14 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK Bryan, your message has still not arrived and I see no sign of it in my syslogs so I think it is either bogged down on the net somewhere or has simply vanished. Okay, check your mail one more time, I just sent a message and show it going out in my logs. Tell me if you get that one. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Bryan. It arrived (in my logs only). I have not actually seen it and cannot see it. I do NOT understand what the deal is here. My syslog for your last direct email: Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[31348]: E25CD831: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[31222]: E25CD831: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1540, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 37327 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: info: setuid to root succeeded Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: Still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set to root. Fall back to nobody. Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: processing message [EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534. Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep spamd[31355]: clean message (0.0/5.0) for root:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1666 bytes. Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep postfix/local[31349]: E25CD831: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN) Oct 15 11:54:03 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[31347]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should. It was cleared as nonspam (0.0/5.0). It doesn't exist after this on my system. praedor - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jW5xb1CLurEA6xURAhOJAJ0dZsKvxAtuDvW02FyA6VHKX19LIgCgtnr+ vhBBAGpu9Ae8Wg0w9JXjLHY= =BQ1q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:26 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless of whether they are spam or not. My current /etc/procmailrc contains: --- :0: * !email address * !list address * !etc, etc * 256000 | spamc -f I would suggest changing this slightly to | /usr/bin/spamc -f instead, make sure that you are explicitly giving it the command just in case your path variables aren't set right and it can't find the command or worse, finds the wrong one. Also, is the procmail lockfile working with SpamAssassin. I always get error messages when SpamAssassin runs as root and Procmail tries to use the default lockfile, usually I just don't use a lockfile with SA since by the time mail gets to that, I want it to pass through all remaining recipes. (that would be the trailing : character on the recipe. Mine just shows as: :0f * 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Thanks Bryan. It arrived (in my logs only). I have not actually seen it and cannot see it. I do NOT understand what the deal is here. My syslog for your last direct email: Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[31348]: E25CD831: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[31222]: E25CD831: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1540, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 37327 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: info: setuid to root succeeded Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: Still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set to root. Fall back to nobody. Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: processing message [EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534. Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep spamd[31355]: clean message (0.0/5.0) for root:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1666 bytes. Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep postfix/local[31349]: E25CD831: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN) Oct 15 11:54:03 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[31347]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should. It was cleared as nonspam (0.0/5.0). It doesn't exist after this on my system. Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently. With the lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to process the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for delivery. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil
/stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ file KEEP.TAR KEEP.TAR: POSIX tar archive On a tar i made just now, i get: /stuff/keep_huff_sort $ file tmp.tar tmp.tar: GNU tar archive Any idea if POSIX tar is actually different than GNU tar? Hmmm.. I have some possibly bad news. Gnu tar can apparently read POSIX archives without problem. The issue, as you suggested, may be that the archive itself is corrupt. From a quick google it appears that transferring a tar file in non-binary mode can lead to such corruption. So next question: Did you ftp this file from another machine? If you did, did you remember to transfer in Binary mode? -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?
As Bryan said, specify a path. You may also like to know that you can make backups of mail with procmail... and commenting the heck out of procmail is good. In fact, I should put more comments in mine. Here's my user-level .procmailrc, in the interest of completeness: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/jack LOGFILE=$HOME/Procmail/log PMSRC=$HOME/Procmail VERBOSE=no LOGABSTRACT=yes LINEBUF=8192 # Create a backup cache of 50 most recent messages in case of mistakes LOGABSTRACT=no :0 c $PMSRC/backupmail :0 ci | cd $PMSRC/backupmail rm -f dummy `ls -t msg.* | sed -e 1,50d` # Anti-spam measures. # SpamAssassin rule # The condition line ensures that only messages smaller than 250 kB # (250 * 1024 = 256000 bytes) are processed by SpamAssassin. Most spam # isn't bigger than a few k and working with big messages can bring # SpamAssassin to its knees. # Sourceforge and some other sites have started to run SpamAssassin on # their own mail, so this rule lets us skip re-running it here. :0fw * 256000 * !^X-Spam-Flag: YES | /usr/bin/spamc # Mails with a score of 15 or higher are almost certainly spam (with 0.05% # false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in a # safe place, like /dev/null # After a few days, I'm adjusting this down to 10. :0: * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* /dev/null # Sometimes Mickeysoft users will send attachments hidden inside of TNEF files. # This script translates those back to regular MIME attachments. :0fw | /usr/local/bin/tnefclean.pl -f On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 08:58, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:26 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless of whether they are spam or not. My current /etc/procmailrc contains: --- :0: * !email address * !list address * !etc, etc * 256000 | spamc -f I would suggest changing this slightly to | /usr/bin/spamc -f instead, make sure that you are explicitly giving it the command just in case your path variables aren't set right and it can't find the command or worse, finds the wrong one. Also, is the procmail lockfile working with SpamAssassin. I always get error messages when SpamAssassin runs as root and Procmail tries to use the default lockfile, usually I just don't use a lockfile with SA since by the time mail gets to that, I want it to pass through all remaining recipes. (that would be the trailing : character on the recipe. Mine just shows as: :0f * 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There were no spamassassin processes running when I did ps -A so it would appear not to be a logjam there. I also altered my procmailrc file slightely as you suggest, starting with :0f instead of :0: and adding the full path to spamc. We'll see. On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:59 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Thanks Bryan. It arrived (in my logs only). I have not actually seen it and cannot see it. I do NOT understand what the deal is here. [...] So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should. It was cleared as nonspam (0.0/5.0). It doesn't exist after this on my system. Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently. With the lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to process the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for delivery. - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jXJNb1CLurEA6xURAuf7AKCs53rE1jFVDLa46eoeupS7dkHwGQCfQe3y +gPEil6hgbJ8UyP/HZL99zE= =1izT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 md5sums
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:45 am, Miark wrote: I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur? 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso mine are the same. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, the changes appear to have fixed things. I am actually receiving emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my do-not-process list. The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll (apparently) receive future ones. Thanks Bryan and Jack. praedor On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:14 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: There were no spamassassin processes running when I did ps -A so it would appear not to be a logjam there. I also altered my procmailrc file slightely as you suggest, starting with :0f instead of :0: and adding the full path to spamc. We'll see. On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:59 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Thanks Bryan. It arrived (in my logs only). I have not actually seen it and cannot see it. I do NOT understand what the deal is here. [...] So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should. It was cleared as nonspam (0.0/5.0). It doesn't exist after this on my system. Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently. With the lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to process the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for delivery. - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jXV+b1CLurEA6xURAnqTAJ0VwmfDjsOoni0vMhuJYDv/LoLM7wCeJBCl 3U96HWU6WnYiH4mWCytILdw= =xolK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] urpmi
the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need to define new sources :-) Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is over. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK, the changes appear to have fixed things. I am actually receiving emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my do-not-process list. The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll (apparently) receive future ones. Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any lockfiles there. If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is nothing there. No locks, nothing. It would appear that however many there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test messages to myself as one distinct message). My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay. I have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit relaying within my subnet - by default). I have seen several relay connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my subnetwork. praedor On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:40 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK, the changes appear to have fixed things. I am actually receiving emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my do-not-process list. The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll (apparently) receive future ones. Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any lockfiles there. If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages. - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jX4gb1CLurEA6xURAtd+AKDN+MGgyEMIwTzcLmSBlGbfpVeBEQCeJ+fl KvlH5Hb4L2PyRS6wrh2wu4o= =6e2+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need to define new sources :-) Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is over. I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want, but at about 1/3 of my normal download speed. It appears that urpmi.update -a --wget works!? There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Tim -- I often read this forum on my Zaurus handheld, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Can't install into Intel D865GLC MB with SATA drives
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu 2003 00:38): Hello, I'm trying to load Mandrake on a brand new P4 2.8ghz system using the Intel D845GVAD2, with two 10K ROM SATA drives. I have an IDE CDROM drive attached. What SATA controller? That board does not have any integrated, so... Oops, I read the wrong MB number. It's the Intel 865GLC, sorry. Mdk 9.0 would not find the CD Drive - died right away. Mdk 9.1 would load some more from the CD, but then would fail looking for the hard disk. It wants to know what SCSI module to use. I tried a whole bunch, all to no avail. Help! I want to install (preferrably 9.0) on this lightning-fast machine! Thanks. Bob Sorry, no can do the SATA support for most chipsets boards has just gotten to the process where they get integrated in the current kernels, so the first MDK distro to support other SATA than Sil3112 are MDK 9.2 + driver disk.. Where can I find this driver? Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:28 am, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python python-2.3-3mdk So yes its there Maybe the test file you are trying to download no longer exists, or if you are on dhcp and have a new ip address, you will have to get a new .torrent because they are designed to only work from the ip address you downloaded it from. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is nothing there. No locks, nothing. It would appear that however many there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test messages to myself as one distinct message). My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay. I have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit relaying within my subnet - by default). I have seen several relay connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my subnetwork. praedor Only one place to go: http://www.ordb.org They will check you for open relays by direct testing of your mail server, and take you out of the blackhole, if you are indeed in the blackhole, if you pass. All this as a free service. You can not beat the deal. drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Engineer http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm Let him that would move the world, first move himself. --Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Can't install into Intel D865GLC MB with SATA drives
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu 2003 20:16): Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu 2003 00:38): Hello, I'm trying to load Mandrake on a brand new P4 2.8ghz system using the Intel D845GVAD2, with two 10K ROM SATA drives. I have an IDE CDROM drive attached. What SATA controller? That board does not have any integrated, so... Oops, I read the wrong MB number. It's the Intel 865GLC, sorry. Mdk 9.0 would not find the CD Drive - died right away. Mdk 9.1 would load some more from the CD, but then would fail looking for the hard disk. It wants to know what SCSI module to use. I tried a whole bunch, all to no avail. Help! I want to install (preferrably 9.0) on this lightning-fast machine! Thanks. Bob Sorry, no can do the SATA support for most chipsets boards has just gotten to the process where they get integrated in the current kernels, so the first MDK distro to support other SATA than Sil3112 are MDK 9.2 + driver disk.. Where can I find this driver? Bob It's not built yet... AFAIK..., and if MDK won't be building any driver floppies, I will build them and post them on my site... But I need to get the newer libata integrated in my kernels first... And I know that one of the OEM partners has demanded the SATA support for atleast Intel Boards... But you will atleast have to wait a week, before I can get around to building those driver disks... -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:06:34 -0700 Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need to define new sources :-) Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is over. I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want, but at about 1/3 of my normal download speed. It appears that urpmi.update -a--wget works!? There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Well. duh.. 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors! http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586 Tim -- I often read this forum on my Zaurus handheld, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Ancient lib
Hi All Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad, its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels. It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient. using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2, about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h. There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file. So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] linrad-01.07]# ./configure loading cache ./config.cache checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for /usr/include/sys/soundcard.h... yes checking for /usr/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /usr/local/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /lib/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /var/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /opt/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /root/oss/soundcard.h... no checking for /dev/dsp... yes checking for /dev/sound/dsp... yes checking for ./users_hwaredriver.c... no checking for ./users_hwaredriver.c... (cached) no checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for vga.h... no configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile vga.h missing!!! Any ideas how to get round this one ? TIA Richard -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700: There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Well. duh.. 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors! http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain, acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'? ;-) wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ancient lib
Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad, its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels. It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient. using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2, about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h. There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file. So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:- [...] checking for vga.h... no configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile vga.h missing!!! Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:26, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:28 am, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python python-2.3-3mdk So yes its there Maybe the test file you are trying to download no longer exists, or if you are on dhcp and have a new ip address, you will have to get a new .torrent because they are designed to only work from the ip address you downloaded it from. The test file might have gone, but the ipaddress is still the same ,albeit it is dynamic and only changes when one of the routers gets changed. I would have expected something to happen when clicking on the icons that got installed when the bittorrent rpms were installed. Also running both mozilla on win98 and mdk9.1 the helper5 apps are in both, yet on mdk9.1 the torrent function dos'nt go. Oh well 75 hrs to go and I might have all 3 iso's.. TIA Richard -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] remotekeyboard in ssh
Hello all, Here's a strange problem I've encountered: I've got a small spec laptop running applications on a ssh-server with Xforwarding. These machines have Belgian keyboards and special characters like ô or è. Locally I get these by first hitting the ^ key and then the letter that goes underneath like an o or a. This will not work on the server thoughprobably 'cause it's becomes 2 separate keyboard events due to ssh. I expect that a US-international keyboard would have the same problems. Anybody got any idea's on workarounds, apart from remapping the keyboard? Ergo (methinks); How do you tell a remote-Xserver to keep a certain key-action in cache remotely and then execute it locally and simultaneously with the next key-stroke? Thanx, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?
http://vger.kernel.org/mxverify.html On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 10:04, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is nothing there. No locks, nothing. It would appear that however many there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test messages to myself as one distinct message). My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay. I have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit relaying within my subnet - by default). I have seen several relay connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my subnetwork. praedor On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:40 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK, the changes appear to have fixed things. I am actually receiving emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my do-not-process list. The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll (apparently) receive future ones. Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any lockfiles there. If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages. - -- I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion. - --Richard Dawkins Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jX4gb1CLurEA6xURAtd+AKDN+MGgyEMIwTzcLmSBlGbfpVeBEQCeJ+fl KvlH5Hb4L2PyRS6wrh2wu4o= =6e2+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700: There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Well. duh.. 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors! http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain, acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'? I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of October. We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now??? See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual? ;-) Tim -- I often read this forum on my Zaurus handheld, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ancient lib
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 19:28, Kwan Lowe wrote: Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad, its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels. It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient. using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2, about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h. There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file. So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:- [...] checking for vga.h... no configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile vga.h missing!!! Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed. But where are they sourced Kwan ? I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including cooker. There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2 and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000. Are the RPMs for PLD linux mdk or RH compatable ?? or is PLD on offshoot of Suse or Debian. there is both src.rpm and rpm for PLD on rpmfind ?? Richard -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil
Gnu tar can apparently read POSIX archives without problem. The issue, as you suggested, may be that the archive itself is corrupt. From a quick google it appears that transferring a tar file in non-binary mode can lead to such corruption. So next question: Did you ftp this file from another machine? If you did, did you remember to transfer in Binary mode? I can't be sure, but i believe it was a working archive when i burnt it to the CD i am now trying to get it off. My next step is to go fire up the computer that has the burner that made this cd. I painted my computer room, so that computer is not hooked up at the moment, nor does it have the software i originally used, which sucks cuz it was direct-cd, which i don't know of working with linux. I'll have to google on that when i get home, but does anybody know a way to search a cdrom that isn't properly ormatted ? Thanks for the help, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 15, 2003 01:17 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700: There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Well. duh.. 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors! http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain, acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'? I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of October. We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now??? See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual? ;-) Tim The 9.2 Canicule trees would need to be on the mirrors as they are because: Those individuals with access to the ISOs ahead of mere mortals g will need to be able to add the contrib directories for a lot of software not on the disks; The ISOs won't hold everything in main simply because of space limitations so that needs to be there as well; The SRPMS need to be there so that people with odd hardware systems can roll their own. I'm sure there are other reasons too. Just my brief take. BTW there are no hdlist2.cz files on the mirrors so you'll probably have to genhdlist on the full tree to use contribs anyway. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 13:34:02 up 25 days, 2:56, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.18, 0.18 Paranoia doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to get you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jaJqG11CaRuZZSIRAvV4AKCDOoBPf20MwXrphfTMNj2gZTqwMQCgsB8O AZB8z3nWzKQ+CWoHMi9LoAU= =zKwO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
Hi Richard, On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Richard Bown wrote: I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download (In another posting, you stated that you have python 2.3 installed, and this is what causes the problem) What did I miss ?? Python simply doesn't find the modules, since the default search path is /usr/lib/pythonVERSION/site-packages -- just enter the following and see if you get the same result (I bet you do): [EMAIL PROTECTED]rpm -ql bittorrent | grep download.pyc /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.pyc So, in order to load the module, just provide the right search path: export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages This should do the trick ... Ad astra, -- Dipl.-Inf. Markus Ueberall Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Tel: (069)798-28361 Fax: -23340Institut für Informatik / Telematik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ancient lib
Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed. But where are they sourced Kwan ? I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including cooker. There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2 and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000. You can grab the src rpm from another distro and rebuild. If you run into rpm macro errors, take a look in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file to make sure that the macro exists. If it doesn't, the easiest thing is usually to extract the macros file from the rpm package for the distro that you got the src.rpm from. That wasn't too clear :D If you grab a redhat SRC.RPM for svgalib then try to rebuild, you may get errors such as unknown tag, macro not found, or no job control in shell. These usually indicate missing macros in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file and is common when compiling non-native source rpms. The workaround is to find the rpm-VERSION-i386.rpm file for the alien distribution then extract the macros file from the RPM binary (use rpm2cpio). Next, copy the relevant portions of the alien macros file into your own .rpmmacros or the system wide /usr/lib/rpm/macros file. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
Thanks Markus That nows behaves like a torrent, There are still some errors , but it will have to wait until some sanity returns to all the mirrors Richard On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 20:37, Markus Ueberall wrote: Hi Richard, On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Richard Bown wrote: I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download (In another posting, you stated that you have python 2.3 installed, and this is what causes the problem) What did I miss ?? Python simply doesn't find the modules, since the default search path is /usr/lib/pythonVERSION/site-packages -- just enter the following and see if you get the same result (I bet you do): [EMAIL PROTECTED]rpm -ql bittorrent | grep download.pyc /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.pyc So, in order to load the module, just provide the right search path: export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages This should do the trick ... Ad astra, -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ancient lib
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 20:57, Kwan Lowe wrote: OK Kwan I think I understand, at the moment the mirrors are so heavily being used , I cant download much at all. I think I understand , and I'll try it in the morning, when those to the west are tucked up in bed and those to the east are at work or going to bed.. Tnx Richard You can grab the src rpm from another distro and rebuild. If you run into rpm macro errors, take a look in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file to make sure that the macro exists. If it doesn't, the easiest thing is usually to extract the macros file from the rpm package for the distro that you got the src.rpm from. That wasn't too clear :D If you grab a redhat SRC.RPM for svgalib then try to rebuild, you may get errors such as unknown tag, macro not found, or no job control in shell. These usually indicate missing macros in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file and is common when compiling non-native source rpms. The workaround is to find the rpm-VERSION-i386.rpm file for the alien distribution then extract the macros file from the RPM binary (use rpm2cpio). Next, copy the relevant portions of the alien macros file into your own .rpmmacros or the system wide /usr/lib/rpm/macros file. -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:17, Tim Sawchuck wrote: ... I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of October. We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now??? See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual? ;-) rpms != isos -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.2: MD5 sums for Download Powerpack editions
Frederic Soulier wrote: Hi I've seen the MD5 sums for the Download edition and the ones I have have the same MD5 sums. Could someone post their Powerpack edition MD5 sums? Thanks. For the Download edition: 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso For the Powerpack edition I have: e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso 163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso For powerpack: e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso 163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] libgal
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 01:58, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:21:32 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: They aren't MDK Lint compliant. (no changelog etc) but they are rpms that work on your system. Lint? lint is a template that checks the rpm config file for compliance with MDK format style and standard. Since you don't end up building src rpms with this but rather just a binary rpm that is managable via rpm it's not as critical. Translation. You can use them but they aren't ready for distribution via MDK. James Maybe when you see my other question... ;-) I'll go do some reading now, Texstar has an RPM how-to on PCLinuxOnline. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 08:28, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python python-2.3-3mdk So yes its there I can duplicate this on my cooker box if I'm running the bittorrent rpms from Texstar Since they are a backport of the ones in cooker then they don't get upgraded. Are you doing the same? James Richard On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 15:30, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote: I'm going nuts ! I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages. All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version. I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer I have 2 icons, One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui. select either has no effect. trying from the command line with the test package [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ? from BitTorrent.download import download ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin. I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS. What did I miss ?? Do you have Python installed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 06:31, HaywireMac wrote: I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if anyone can. It claims: 9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same computer simultaneously where did you see this? What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like Crossover or Win4Lin? Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members. (GOOD NEWS)
Hi Everyone, Looks like the Mandrake club has fixed the transparent proxy issue, via downloading the mytorrent-(userid).torrent file using a different port. I am now downloading the and uploading the ISO, excellent stuff.. it's coming down at 50K/sec and some times shooting to about 80K/sec, maybe it will get even quicker when more people get to start downloading it. Cheers Mark On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 01:19, Tibor Pittich wrote: On 15. October 2003 at 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote: Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the tracker cannot get your real ip address. There is a lot of discussion on the Club about this. doesn't help this option? --ip/-i arg ip to report you have to the tracker. (defaults to '') -- Mark Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cyber Essentials Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Ancient lib
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:30, Richard Bown wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 19:28, Kwan Lowe wrote: Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad, its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels. It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient. using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2, about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h. There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file. So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:- [...] checking for vga.h... no configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile vga.h missing!!! Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed. But where are they sourced Kwan ? I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including cooker. There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2 and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000. Are the RPMs for PLD linux mdk or RH compatable ?? or is PLD on offshoot of Suse or Debian. there is both src.rpm and rpm for PLD on rpmfind ?? Richard The last time it (vgagl.h) was in MDK was 9.0 http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?idpl=277178stat=4search=vgagl.hcom=libsvgalib1-devel-1.4.3-3mdk.i586.rpm.html is a url where you can download the src rpm for it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD backup
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:50 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most cases double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is not trivial. That is true for both Linux and Windows. Doing this involves identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want, ripping the vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or plugin to DeCSS the vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if desired) at the same time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to vob files that are no longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and .ifo file to the DVD blank in the correct format. I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is not the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and it should remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the media) for your lifetime if not longer. I can tell you one VERY good reason to do this. Well more than one. :) My children are not old enough to jump through all the hoops of wide format, normal format and all of other 7 minutes worth of hoop jumping to just watch the blame movie! I had a brand new Shrek. My 3 year old put it in on top of another disk in my juke box. It scratched it so badly it no longer plays. So from now on I use a windows product (until I find something like it for linux) called DVDXcopy Gold. Wonderful product. Now I keep my originals safely tucked away, and the kids pop this sucker in and it starts playing like a tape. It is GREAT! Take a look at the DVDRip interface from PLF. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD backup
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:44 pm, lorne wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:50 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote: Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy. I haven't been able to find out much about this. Is there any software that makes this easy? There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most cases double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is not trivial. That is true for both Linux and Windows. Doing this involves identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want, ripping the vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or plugin to DeCSS the vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if desired) at the same time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to vob files that are no longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and .ifo file to the DVD blank in the correct format. I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is not the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and it should remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the media) for your lifetime if not longer. I can tell you one VERY good reason to do this. Well more than one. :) My children are not old enough to jump through all the hoops of wide format, normal format and all of other 7 minutes worth of hoop jumping to just watch the blame movie! I had a brand new Shrek. My 3 year old put it in on top of another disk in my juke box. It scratched it so badly it no longer plays. So from now on I use a windows product (until I find something like it for linux) called DVDXcopy Gold. Wonderful product. Now I keep my originals safely tucked away, and the kids pop this sucker in and it starts playing like a tape. It is GREAT! Take a look at the DVDRip interface from PLF. Either I misunderstood the original question or the answer was misguided, since the URL mentioned talks of copying to a CD. How about something that does like DVDXcopy for winblows? DVD to DVD? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
Here's how I did mine, and it worked great. (Left it up overnight last night, too.) python /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py torrent file/ --max_upload_rate 20 I got downloads in excess of 300KB/s at peak, and easily averaged 200. - Theo James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:49, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3696 days Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on www.madrakeusers.org that everyone it downloading awfully slow. Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until all the mirrors are not slashdotted! ;-) I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking the downloads. Most consumer oriented broadband services are half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download anything. I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and my download took off. I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s. I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent These errors occurred during execution: [00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max. run with no args for parameter explanations [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ Vox Same kind of prb here... I'm going to switch to the rpms from texstar and see if those work with this switch. right now I'm doing 8kbs up and 1 down. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LM9.2: MD5 sums for Download Powerpack editions
Hi I've seen the MD5 sums for the Download edition and the ones I have have the same MD5 sums. Could someone post their Powerpack edition MD5 sums? Thanks. For the Download edition: 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso For the Powerpack edition I have: e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso 163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso -- Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Go to the club and get your bittorrents running. Mainly because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need some speed!!! Well, I stated up bittorrent last night, and I have had pokey download speeds, typically around 10-12KB/second, and it is constatnly crashing. Now, I am sitting behind a Linux firewall/router that I built up a couple of years ago, using the DENY ALL sort of attitude. But now I am forgetting. It is built with ip-chains and probably RH 7.1 or 7.2. What files do I edit, and what do I say to open the bittorrent ports, 6881-6999. And how about providing outbound access on 6969? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something that wasn't on the CDs. Just my 2 cents. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:19, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700: There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to verify. That would add to the frenzy, if true Well. duh.. 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors! http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain, acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'? ;-) wobo Well the page is there the list is there. But if you go straight into a number of those mirrors the files aren't there. As in no 9.2 directory just 9.0 and 9.1 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something that wasn't on the CDs. Just my 2 cents. Joeb My 3rd CD is 696 MB granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough for the kernel source. For that I recommend urpmi. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something that wasn't on the CDs. Just my 2 cents. Joeb My 3rd CD is 696 MB granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough for the kernel source. For that I recommend urpmi. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation (kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff). Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a few now. Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers! Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the kernel headers/sources. We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 40MB. IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now. Also, isn't the idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release? If the packages have been deleted, then how is it a test? Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the need to delete them)? Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:45, Joeb wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something that wasn't on the CDs. Just my 2 cents. Joeb My 3rd CD is 696 MB granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough for the kernel source. For that I recommend urpmi. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation (kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff). Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a few now. Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers! Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the kernel headers/sources. We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 40MB. IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now. Also, isn't the idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release? If the packages have been deleted, then how is it a test? Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the need to delete them)? Joeb A lot gets duplicated. It does that so you don't have to switch the disks more than 1 time. As for what does doesn't get included. As far as I'm concerned about 1 disk worth is useless. But a lot wouldn't agree. (Emacs in all of it's forms could be dropped and I'd wouldn't miss it, but others would have a hissy fit.) The one major concession was that disk 1 is 650mb. Why. So that if your boxes cd drive can't read 700mb disks (and there are a lot of them.) You can at least get a box up. One note. Anyone downloading the iso's or using bittorrent either has broadband, or ... is a real glutton for pain. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs
James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:45, Joeb wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded and installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something that wasn't on the CDs. Just my 2 cents. Joeb My 3rd CD is 696 MB granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough for the kernel source. For that I recommend urpmi. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation (kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff). Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a few now. Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers! Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the kernel headers/sources. We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 40MB. IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now. Also, isn't the idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release? If the packages have been deleted, then how is it a test? Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the need to delete them)? Joeb A lot gets duplicated. It does that so you don't have to switch the disks more than 1 time. As for what does doesn't get included. As far as I'm concerned about 1 disk worth is useless. But a lot wouldn't agree. (Emacs in all of it's forms could be dropped and I'd wouldn't miss it, but others would have a hissy fit.) The one major concession was that disk 1 is 650mb. Why. So that if your boxes cd drive can't read 700mb disks (and there are a lot of them.) You can at least get a box up. One note. Anyone downloading the iso's or using bittorrent either has broadband, or ... is a real glutton for pain. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I don't have broadband at home, but I do at work. Therefore, installing 9.2 at home but not having the kernel sources is a real problem (since it also effectively kills off my modem, since I can't compile it's drivers and my NVidia card, too). Yes, I can go to work, download the sources, burn them to CD and then bring them home and the problem is resolved (but not solved). But, how many people without broadband will buy CDs from one of the web-sites that sell them and will be stuck because they can't effectively create a source for URPMI with their dial up. Or what about the poor people in Europe who have monthly download/upload minutes who have used up most of the month's quota just getting the ISOs only to find out they need to download more, but now