Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:08, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700
 
  James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because
   right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent
   *grin* I need some speed!!!
 
  I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on
  www.madrakeusers.org
  that everyone it downloading awfully slow.
 
  Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until
  all the mirrors are not slashdotted!  ;-)
 
 I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking 
 the downloads.  Most consumer oriented broadband services are 
 half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download 
 anything.  I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and 
 my download took off.  I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s.
 
 On my cable system I am capped at 3000kbs down and 128 up (which 
 translates to about 16KB/s up.  If i use all my upstream bandwidth, I 
 can't download anything.  When I set --max_upload_rate to 13 it helped 
 a lot.


for the life of me I can't get the switch to work.  --max_upload_rate 8
keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters.  I'm
trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way.  you are
right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways and then  the
upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out.


James



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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg


On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:49, Vox wrote:
 On September 1993 plus 3696 days Greg Meyer wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700
 
  James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because
   right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent
   *grin* I need some speed!!!
 
  I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on
  www.madrakeusers.org
  that everyone it downloading awfully slow.
 
  Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until
  all the mirrors are not slashdotted!  ;-)
 
  I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking 
  the downloads.  Most consumer oriented broadband services are 
  half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download 
  anything.  I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and 
  my download took off.  I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s.
 
   I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if
   anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 
 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent 
 These errors occurred during execution:
 [00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max.
 run with no args for parameter explanations
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ 
 
Vox

Same kind of prb here... I'm going to switch to the rpms from texstar
and see if those work with this switch.  right now I'm doing 8kbs up and
1 down.  


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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread s
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote:


 for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. 
 --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too
 many parameters.  I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can
 throttle it that way.  you are right though... at first I was doing
 about 7kbps both ways and then  the upload jumped to 30kbps which
 had me maxed out.

yep, I got that too.  I ended up editing the 
/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file.

hth,
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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 23:31, s wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
 
  for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. 
  --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too
  many parameters.  I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can
  throttle it that way.  you are right though... at first I was doing
  about 7kbps both ways and then  the upload jumped to 30kbps which
  had me maxed out.
 
 yep, I got that too.  I ended up editing the 
 /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file.
 
 hth,
 -s

2 questions... did it work?  Where in the file?  

I'm assuming

('max_upload_rate', 0,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

Becomes 

('max_upload_rate', 13,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),


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Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-15 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:04:51 +0530
L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible
 notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask
 those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in
 linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using
 productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and
 dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs.
 -- 
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 Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam
 AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/
 
 
 
Dell 1100 dual boot 9.1/win2k and VMware win2k all working fine.

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Re: [expert] test - do not read.

2003-10-15 Thread Anton
So you mean it was this that I wasn't supposed to read, or one of the 
previous two?
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Re: [expert] libgal

2003-10-15 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:33:49 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Best of the middle ground worlds.  do a urpmi checkinstall.  Then do
 the normal configure and make.  Then instead of make install do a
 checkinstall make install.  This will build an rpm from the install
 process that you can now use to manage the box via rpm (add remove
 update etc.) 

The thing I'm curious about now that I've built this here RPM is:

will it demand the necessary deps like an RPM built by a non-idiot?

ie. someone really nuts downloads my RPM and does urpmi, is it going
to say the usual to satisfy dependencies, the following packages are
going to be installed...?

Does checkinstall automagically build in those requirements, or do I
have to somehow manually do that?

I'd hate to release any buggy RPMs g.

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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread s
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:28 am, James Sparenberg wrote:

   for the life of me I can't get the switch to work.
   --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have
   too many parameters.  
  yep, I got that too.  I ended up editing the
  /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file.

 2 questions... did it work?  Where in the file?

 I'm assuming

 ('max_upload_rate', 0,
 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

 Becomes

 ('max_upload_rate', 13,
 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),


 James

yeah, pretty close to the top after all the froms.  

I changed max_uploads like so:

defaults = [
('max_uploads', None, 2,
the maximum number of uploads to allow at once.),

and max_rate like so:

('max_upload_rate', None, 13,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

that seemed to really help mine.  I finished up about 5 this afternoon  
and after installing, I turned it back on.  It's still uploading at 
13.  I'll leave it on as long as possible for folks.

hth,
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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3696 days James Sparenberg wrote:

 On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 23:31, s wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
 
  for the life of me I can't get the switch to work. 
  --max_upload_rate 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too
  many parameters.  I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can
  throttle it that way.  you are right though... at first I was doing
  about 7kbps both ways and then  the upload jumped to 30kbps which
  had me maxed out.
 
 yep, I got that too.  I ended up editing the 
 /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.py file.
 
 hth,
 -s

 2 questions... did it work?  Where in the file?  

  It works, I did it too after s mentioned it. It's on line 78 

('max_upload_rate', None, 0,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

  You change the first 0 to 13 or whatever you want and it works. Just
  don't pass the --max_upload_rate switch to the command anymore after
  the change.

  Vox

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Re: [expert] libgal

2003-10-15 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:21:32 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 They aren't MDK Lint compliant. (no changelog etc) but they are rpms
 that work on your system.

Lint?

Maybe when you see my other question... ;-)

I'll go do some reading now, Texstar has an RPM how-to on PCLinuxOnline.

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Re: [expert] refresh rate

2003-10-15 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:22:58 -0700
Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 is there a pointy-clicky way to change monitor refresh rates?  I'm not
 in a big hurry to go messing with modlines.

I found this site:

http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines

apparently, the max I can get for vsync at my desired res (1280x960) is
60 Hz.

The stumbling block *appears* to be that my dot-clock is only 108.

I have a Samsung 955DF and a GeForce4 Ti, but these are the maxes I can
apparently get, which seems strange to me.

  ModeLine 1168x876 106.62 1168 1216 1456 1552 876 878 890 916 #75Hz
  ModeLine 1176x882 107.80 1176 1232 1512 1624 882 884 896 922 #72Hz
  ModeLine 1184x888 107.52 1184 1240 1520 1632 888 890 902 928 #71Hz
  ModeLine 1192x894 107.22 1192 1248 1528 1640 894 896 908 934 #70Hz

Now, I installed the GF4 *after* having MDK already installed, is it
possible that the dot-clock number provided by xvidtune is incorrect or
can be changed?


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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 01:49 am, Vox wrote:

   I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if
   anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10
 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent These errors occurred during
 execution:
 [00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max.
 run with no args for parameter explanations

try

btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 --responsefile 
/home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent

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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:06 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:08, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
   On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700
  
   James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly
because right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the
torrent *grin* I need some speed!!!
  
   I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on
   www.madrakeusers.org
   that everyone it downloading awfully slow.
  
   Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait
   until all the mirrors are not slashdotted!  ;-)
 
  I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are
  choking the downloads.  Most consumer oriented broadband services
  are half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download
  anything.  I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap
  and my download took off.  I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s.
 
  On my cable system I am capped at 3000kbs down and 128 up (which
  translates to about 16KB/s up.  If i use all my upstream bandwidth,
  I can't download anything.  When I set --max_upload_rate to 13 it
  helped a lot.

 for the life of me I can't get the switch to work.  --max_upload_rate
 8 keeps giving me an error saying that I have too many parameters. 
 I'm trying trickle right now to see if I can throttle it that way. 
 you are right though... at first I was doing about 7kbps both ways
 and then  the upload jumped to 30kbps which had me maxed out.


Apparently you have to use the --responsefile switch to specify the 
torrent, otherwise it thinks the torrent file is an argument to the 
--max_upload_rate switch.
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Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-15 Thread Paul M. Bucalo
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi graced me with:
 On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
  I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did
  upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut

 can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system?

I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000 (circa 2000), Celeron 
600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound, Actiontec Mini PCI 
56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file system (except for 
/boot) and it seems to work well for me. 

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[expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown
I'm going nuts !

I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.

I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer
I have 2 icons, 
One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui.
select either has no effect.


trying from the command line with the test package
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
from BitTorrent.download import download
ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download

OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin.
I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS.

What did I miss ??


TIA 
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Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks

2003-10-15 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Mine is a Dell Inspiron 8100, NVidia Graphics, Pentium
III 1ghz, 256 MB RAm.30Gb Harddrive (10NTFS,
10FAT32 shared writing btwn the two OS's, 10 Reiserfs,
including root+boot)(Hitachi DK23DA), 3Com Mini PCI
adapter, ACPI, LG DVD-ROm and TEAC CD-W216E, Synaptics
PS/2 Port TouchPad mice (works out of the box) , ESS
Maestro sound

Works great!


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 On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi
 graced me with:
  On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu
 wrote:
   I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake
 9.1. I did
   upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI.
 -turgut
 
  can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video
 system?
 
 I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000
 (circa 2000), Celeron 
 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound,
 Actiontec Mini PCI 
 56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file
 system (except for 
 /boot) and it seems to work well for me. 
 
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[expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread Daniel Axtell
Hello,

I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. 
keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I haven't been 
able to find out much about this.  Is there any software that makes this 
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[expert] decoding DTMF

2003-10-15 Thread Kum Gábor
Hi!

Could you tell me how can I decode DTMF codes with a sound card?

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Mark
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:38, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because right
 now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need
 some speed!!! 
 
 James

Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get 

Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found

Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout
what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network does
block some ports..   I wonder, there is even a mention of Australian
users on the club site..I will have a couple more trys..

Cheers
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[expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility

2003-10-15 Thread HaywireMac

I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of
this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if
anyone can.

It claims:

9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same computer
simultaneously

What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a
dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like
Crossover or Win4Lin?

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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Miark
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:50:40 -0700, Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on
 www.madrakeusers.org
 that everyone it downloading awfully slow.

I was pulling it down at 200KB/s most of the time.

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[expert] 9.2 md5sums

2003-10-15 Thread Miark
I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur?

40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974  MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso
e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e  MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso
2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372  MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso

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Re: [expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g.
 keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I haven't been
 able to find out much about this.  Is there any software that makes this
 easy?

There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most cases 
double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is not 
trivial.  That is true for both Linux and Windows.  Doing this involves 
identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want, ripping the 
vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or plugin to DeCSS the 
vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if desired) at the same 
time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to vob files that are no 
longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and .ifo file to the DVD blank 
in the correct format.

I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is not 
the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and it should 
remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the media) for your 
lifetime if not longer.

Take a look at the DVDRip interface from PLF.

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Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil

2003-10-15 Thread Kwan Lowe

 I have a corrupt tar file from way back:

 /stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ tar -xvf KEEP.TAR
 keep/
 keep/c/
 keep/c/arrays.c
 tar: Skipping to next header
 tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[...]
 Any idea how to get around this?

 I think the file is corrupt, as opposed to tar: Archive contains
 obsolescent base-64 headers since it's from ~1996 (which is not
 *that* long ago :).


Try running file against the archive to determine if it's actually a tar
archive:
file KEEP.TAR

If you see something like compressed then you'll need to either extract
the file first then detar, or run tar with the 'z' switch:

   tar xfvz KEEP.TAR

If it's just a regular tar file you can try opening it in an editor to get
out the text parts. There's no compression in a regular archive.
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Re: [expert] decoding DTMF

2003-10-15 Thread Kwan Lowe

 Could you tell me how can I decode DTMF codes with a sound card?

There's a project in the following link that might do what you're looking
for:
http://telephonectld.sourceforge.net/

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[expert] More postfix testing...help?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill up my 
inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific individuals:  

James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates.  I request that the three of 
you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my email address 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list.  

I have tried sending myself a few emails (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]).  I SEE the messages transmit in gkrellm and in my 
syslog.  All goes well but on that score but I never ever see them come back 
to me when fetchmail downloads from yahoo.com.  I am wondering if there is a 
problem with my procmail setup, or postfix.  I have also, on a few ocassions, 
seen a message arrive in my syslog (tail -f /var/log/syslog), see that it has 
been passed to procmail which then passes it to spamd.  I see that 
spamassassin assigns it a number lower than my required setting for it to be 
identified as spam which means it should make it to my 
/var/spool/mail/praedor mailbox.  It doesn't.  It vanishes into the ether.  

I had two entries in /etc/procmailrc.  The first was a list of emails/list 
addresses that were not to be passed to spamd.  Any addresses not matching 
the list were passed to spamd for processing.  This seemed to work, and it 
certainly does on my laptop, but it doesn't on my desktop (vanishing messages 
that are not spam being lost, perhaps dumped into /dev/null).  I have since 
eliminated the specific procmailrc entry that would move mails identified as 
spam to /dev/null but the problem remains.  My own email address (yahoo.com) 
is not in the do-not-process-through-spamd list so it should come in, go 
through spamd, not get tagged as spam, and end up in my local inbox.  No joy.  
It fails to behave this way.  I ask the above individuals (even just one of 
you would be fine) to send a reply to me directly at my yahoo address and let 
me know you have done so in the expert list so I will know.  Hopefully it 
will arrive in my inbox as it should.

I would appreciate the help,

praedor
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comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
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Re: [expert] More postfix testing...help?

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:13 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill up
 my inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific individuals:

 James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates.  I request that the three
 of you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my email
 address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list.

I have sent you the requested email reply.

-- 
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Software Test Engineer


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Re: [expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread Eric Fernandez
Daniel Axtell wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux, e.g. 
keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I haven't been 
able to find out much about this.  Is there any software that makes this 
easy?

 



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contrib of cooker/9.2 contains k3b 0.10 CVS that supports DVD writing. I 
don't know the requirements to backup a whole DVD though.
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[expert] Kernel Errors every Now and Then

2003-10-15 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Unable to handle kernel
NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0082
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: *pde = 

Usually system hangs for a while, then after some
minutes, goes back into operation mode. During hang,
ofcourse, no ps or top or w, anything, so I cant
really narrow down the problem. 


And also below is the kernel warning messages::
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:  printing eip:
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: c0165410
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Oops: 
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: CPU:1
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP:   
0010:[ext2_update_inode+864/944]Not tainted
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP:   
0010:[c0165410]Not tainted
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: eax: c3b1df2c   ebx:
   ecx: 402b4b78   edx: c3b1df2c
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: esi: e88b07e0   edi:
007e   ebp: c3b1df00   esp: c3b1def4
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018  
ss: 0018
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Process sshd (pid:
29803, stackpage=c3b1d000)
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Stack: 
e88b07e0 000a c3b1df40 c016572b c3b1df2c 
c3b1c000
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:
0200 c3b1c000 7fff 402b4b78  0009
007e
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:08048000
08086290 b820 0040 c0165ce4 000a c3b1df90
c3b1df84
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace:   
[ext2_ioctl+363/688] [ext2_mkdir+228/240]
[udp_rcv+640/752] [syscall_trace+48/128]
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace:   
[c016572b] [c0165ce4] [c0208550] [c010c860]
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:
Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Code: 8b 5f 04 8d 77 08
8d 76 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 83 eb 18 8b
~ 

Does this give a clue to anyone? Or, can anyone offer
advise into how to proceed to troubleshoot the
problem?


_Thanks much
Richard

bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/version 
Linux version 2.4.19-openmosix-7
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2
(Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #6 SMP Wed Aug 6
14:34:10 EDT 2003

nimbus@/var/log/kernel$ free
 total   used   free shared   
buffers cached
Mem:   20638002051148  12652  0   
 1748841593856
-/+ buffers/cache: 2824081781392
Swap:  2015960  575321958428


bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 2
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
stepping: 7
cpu MHz : 2395.953
cache size  : 512 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi
mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
bogomips: 4784.12

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 2
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
stepping: 7
cpu MHz : 2395.953
cache size  : 512 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi
mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
bogomips: 4784.12




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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:35 am, Mark wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:38, James Sparenberg wrote:
  Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because
  right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent
  *grin* I need some speed!!!
 
  James

 Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get

 Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found

 Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout
 what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network
 does block some ports..   I wonder, there is even a mention of
 Australian users on the club site..I will have a couple more
 trys..

Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the 
tracker cannot get your real ip address.  There is a lot of discussion 
on the Club about this.
-- 
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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote:
 I'm going nuts !

 I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
 All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.

 I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer
 I have 2 icons,
 One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui.
 select either has no effect.


 trying from the command line with the test package
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
 mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
 from BitTorrent.download import download
 ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download

 OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin.
 I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS.

 What did I miss ??

Do you have Python installed?
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Re: [expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:31 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of
 this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if
 anyone can.

 It claims:

 9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same
 computer simultaneously

 What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a
 dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like
 Crossover or Win4Lin?

I think they mean dual-boot
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Re: [expert] More postfix testing...help?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Thank you.  I am still waiting for it to appear (it's taking its sweet time).  
I'll give it a while before I assume it vanished into nowhere).  

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:17 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:13 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  As it would be dangerous to make a broad request and potentially fill
  up my inbox with helpful replies, I direct this to a few specific
  individuals:
 
  James Sparenberg, Bryan Phinney, and Jack Coates.  I request that the
  three of you send me a simple reply to this list posting, directed to my
  email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the list.

 I have sent you the requested email reply.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] 9.2 md5sums

2003-10-15 Thread Rolf Pedersen


Miark wrote:
I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur?

40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974  MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso
e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e  MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso
2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372  MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso
Miark


Look for danny's md5sums in the Club article.  They seem to start out 
the same: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1251
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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Mark

 
  Hmm your the lucky ones, no matter what I try I get
 
  Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 
  Now I am on the Optus cable network in Australia, can't quite workout
  what is the problem, I have tried everything, but the Optus network
  does block some ports..   I wonder, there is even a mention of
  Australian users on the club site..I will have a couple more
  trys..
 
 Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the 
 tracker cannot get your real ip address.  There is a lot of discussion 
 on the Club about this.

Yes you are correct, may be they should have used a different port than
80, surely Australia is not the only country to have transparent proxys,
on some of their ISPs.

Cheers
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Re: [expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Watson
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On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 14:12, Daniel Axtell wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux,
 e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I
 haven't been able to find out much about this.  Is there any software
 that makes this easy?


Have a look at

http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/index.html

I think it will get you started

HTH

Pete
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Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil

2003-10-15 Thread Eric Huff
  I have a corrupt tar file from way back:

 Try running file against the archive to determine if it's
 actually a tar archive:
 file KEEP.TAR

It's definitely a tar file.

Let's see what file says (never used that before) :

/stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ file KEEP.TAR 
KEEP.TAR: POSIX tar archive

On a tar i made just now, i get:

/stuff/keep_huff_sort $ file tmp.tar 
tmp.tar: GNU tar archive

Any idea if POSIX tar is actually different than GNU tar?

file is a cool command...


 If it's just a regular tar file you can try opening it in an
 editor to get out the text parts. There's no compression in a
 regular archive.-- 

Yeah, i looked at it in emacs.  But it's the figures in it i'm most
likely to want.  I dread the thought of plugging thru 11MB in a text
editor trying grab out the pictures correctly.

eric

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[expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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OK Bryan,  your message has still not arrived and I see no sign of it in my 
syslogs so I think it is either bogged down on the net somewhere or has 
simply vanished.

Here is an excerpt from my syslog indicating the arrival of two messages, 
neither of which has made it to my inbox: 

Oct 15 10:46:26 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: connect from 
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: 22791831: 
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[29494]: 22791831: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[6657]: 22791831: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5498, nrcpt=1 
(queue active)
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
at port 36976
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: info: setuid to root succeeded
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: Still running as root: user not 
specified with -u, not found, or set to root.  Fall back to nobody.
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: processing message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534.
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep spamd[29499]: clean message (0.3/5.0) for root:65534 
in 0.1 seconds, 5567 bytes.
Oct 15 09:46:27 stonekeep postfix/local[29496]: 22791831: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN)
Oct 15 10:46:27 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29492]: disconnect from 
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]

This is an excerpt showing an expert list message arriving that DOES make it 
to me:

Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: connect from 
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: 415DE831: 
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[29333]: 415DE831: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[6657]: 415DE831: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=4102, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 15 09:37:09 stonekeep postfix/local[29334]: 415DE831: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN)
Oct 15 10:37:09 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[29332]: disconnect from 
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]

The lost messages are no where on my system.  Not in root mailboxes, not in 
mine, not in any other possible.  Where did they go?

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Tibor Pittich
On 15. October 2003 at 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote:

 Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the 
 tracker cannot get your real ip address.  There is a lot of discussion 
 on the Club about this.

doesn't help this option?
--ip/-i arg
  ip to report you have to the tracker. (defaults to '')

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[expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless of 
whether they are spam or not.

My current /etc/procmailrc contains:
- ---
:0:
* !email address 
* !list address
* !etc, etc
* 256000
| spamc -f

- 

It did have an additional entry that would check the mail headers for 
X-Spam-Status: Yes and pass such messages to /dev/null.  I have eliminated 
it for now on the assumption that for some reason it wasn't work as intended 
and was passing ALL spamassassin-processed messages to /dev/null.  It's 
removal has changed nothing, however, as I still fail to see any messages 
that come in and get passed through spamassassin.  WHY?!  I see, for 
instance, in my syslog an incoming message getting passed from fetchmail to 
postfix to procmail to spamd.  I see it get assigned a number like 2.5 or 
- -100.5, etc, but it never arrives in my inbox (kmail) which is polling 
/var/spool/mail/praedor every couple minutes.  Where is the message going?

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown

Hi Greg, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python
python-2.3-3mdk

So yes its there


Richard

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 15:30, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote:
  I'm going nuts !
 
  I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
  All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.
 
  I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer
  I have 2 icons,
  One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui.
  select either has no effect.
 
 
  trying from the command line with the test package
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
  mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
  from BitTorrent.download import download
  ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download
 
  OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin.
  I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS.
 
  What did I miss ??
 
 Do you have Python installed?
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:14 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 OK Bryan,  your message has still not arrived and I see no sign of it in my
 syslogs so I think it is either bogged down on the net somewhere or has
 simply vanished.

Okay, check your mail one more time, I just sent a message and show it going 
out in my logs.  Tell me if you get that one.

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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Thanks Bryan.  It arrived (in my logs only).  I have not actually seen it and 
cannot see it.  I do NOT understand what the deal is here.

My syslog for your last direct email:

Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[31348]: E25CD831: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[31222]: E25CD831: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1540, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
at port 37327
Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: info: setuid to root succeeded
Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: Still running as root: user not 
specified with -u, not found, or set to root.  Fall back to nobody.
Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: processing message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534.
Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep spamd[31355]: clean message (0.0/5.0) for root:65534 
in 0.1 seconds, 1666 bytes.
Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep postfix/local[31349]: E25CD831: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN)
Oct 15 11:54:03 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[31347]: disconnect from 
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]

So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should.  It was cleared as 
nonspam (0.0/5.0).  It doesn't exist after this on my system.

praedor
- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:26 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless
 of whether they are spam or not.

 My current /etc/procmailrc contains:
 ---

 :0:

 * !email address
 * !list address
 * !etc, etc
 * 256000

 | spamc -f

 

I would suggest changing this slightly to | /usr/bin/spamc -f  instead, make 
sure that you are explicitly giving it the command just in case your path 
variables aren't set right and it can't find the command or worse, finds the 
wrong one.

Also, is the procmail lockfile working with SpamAssassin.  I always get error 
messages when SpamAssassin runs as root and Procmail tries to use the default 
lockfile, usually I just don't use a lockfile with SA since by the time mail 
gets to that, I want it to pass through all remaining recipes.  (that would 
be the trailing : character on the recipe.  Mine just shows as:

:0f
* 256000
| /usr/bin/spamc -f


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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Thanks Bryan.  It arrived (in my logs only).  I have not actually seen it
 and cannot see it.  I do NOT understand what the deal is here.

 My syslog for your last direct email:

 Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/cleanup[31348]: E25CD831:
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oct 15 11:54:02 stonekeep postfix/nqmgr[31222]: E25CD831:
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1540, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[1910]: connection from localhost
 [127.0.0.1] at port 37327
 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: info: setuid to root succeeded
 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: Still running as root: user not
 specified with -u, not found, or set to root.  Fall back to nobody.
 Oct 15 10:54:02 stonekeep spamd[31355]: processing message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for root:65534.
 Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep spamd[31355]: clean message (0.0/5.0) for
 root:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1666 bytes.
 Oct 15 10:54:03 stonekeep postfix/local[31349]: E25CD831:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN)
 Oct 15 11:54:03 stonekeep postfix/smtpd[31347]: disconnect from
 localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]

 So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should.  It was cleared as
 nonspam (0.0/5.0).  It doesn't exist after this on my system.

Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently.  With the 
lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to process 
the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for delivery.

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Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil

2003-10-15 Thread Kwan Lowe


 /stuff/keep_huff_sort/NewDir $ file KEEP.TAR
 KEEP.TAR: POSIX tar archive

 On a tar i made just now, i get:

 /stuff/keep_huff_sort $ file tmp.tar
 tmp.tar: GNU tar archive

 Any idea if POSIX tar is actually different than GNU tar?

Hmmm.. I have some possibly bad news.

Gnu tar can apparently read POSIX archives without problem.  The issue, as
you suggested, may be that the archive itself is corrupt. From a quick
google it appears that transferring a tar file in non-binary mode can lead
to such corruption. So next question:  Did you ftp this file from another
machine? If you did, did you remember to transfer in Binary mode?


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Re: [expert] My procmailrc - any problems with this?

2003-10-15 Thread Jack Coates
As Bryan said, specify a path. You may also like to know that you can
make backups of mail with procmail... and commenting the heck out of
procmail is good. In fact, I should put more comments in mine. Here's my
user-level .procmailrc, in the interest of completeness:
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/jack
LOGFILE=$HOME/Procmail/log
PMSRC=$HOME/Procmail
VERBOSE=no
LOGABSTRACT=yes
LINEBUF=8192

# Create a backup cache of 50 most recent messages in case of mistakes
LOGABSTRACT=no
:0 c
$PMSRC/backupmail
:0 ci
| cd $PMSRC/backupmail  rm -f dummy `ls -t msg.* | sed -e 1,50d`

# Anti-spam measures.
# SpamAssassin rule
# The condition line ensures that only messages smaller than 250 kB
# (250 * 1024 = 256000 bytes) are processed by SpamAssassin. Most spam
# isn't bigger than a few k and working with big messages can bring
# SpamAssassin to its knees.
# Sourceforge and some other sites have started to run SpamAssassin on
# their own mail, so this rule lets us skip re-running it here.
:0fw
*  256000
* !^X-Spam-Flag: YES
| /usr/bin/spamc

# Mails with a score of 15 or higher are almost certainly spam (with
0.05%
# false positives according to rules/STATISTICS.txt). Let's put them in
a
# safe place, like /dev/null
# After a few days, I'm adjusting this down to 10.
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
/dev/null

# Sometimes Mickeysoft users will send attachments hidden inside of TNEF
files.
# This script translates those back to regular MIME attachments.
:0fw
| /usr/local/bin/tnefclean.pl -f


On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 08:58, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:26 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  I just do not ever see messages that pass through spamassassin regardless
  of whether they are spam or not.
 
  My current /etc/procmailrc contains:
  ---
 
  :0:
 
  * !email address
  * !list address
  * !etc, etc
  * 256000
 
  | spamc -f
 
  
 
 I would suggest changing this slightly to | /usr/bin/spamc -f  instead, make 
 sure that you are explicitly giving it the command just in case your path 
 variables aren't set right and it can't find the command or worse, finds the 
 wrong one.
 
 Also, is the procmail lockfile working with SpamAssassin.  I always get error 
 messages when SpamAssassin runs as root and Procmail tries to use the default 
 lockfile, usually I just don't use a lockfile with SA since by the time mail 
 gets to that, I want it to pass through all remaining recipes.  (that would 
 be the trailing : character on the recipe.  Mine just shows as:
 
 :0f
 * 256000
 | /usr/bin/spamc -f
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

There were no spamassassin processes running when I did ps -A so it would 
appear not to be a logjam there.

I also altered my procmailrc file slightely as you suggest, starting with 
:0f instead of :0: and adding the full path to spamc.  We'll see.  


On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:59 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  Thanks Bryan.  It arrived (in my logs only).  I have not actually seen it
  and cannot see it.  I do NOT understand what the deal is here.
[...]
  So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should.  It was cleared as
  nonspam (0.0/5.0).  It doesn't exist after this on my system.

 Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently.  With
 the lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to
 process the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for
 delivery.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
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Re: [expert] 9.2 md5sums

2003-10-15 Thread s
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:45 am, Miark wrote:
 I got the following md5sums. Does anybody concur?

 40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974 
 MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso
 e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e 
 MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso
 2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 
 MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso

mine are the same.
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

OK, the changes appear to have fixed things.  I am actually receiving emails 
again from other than the expert list or other members of my do-not-process 
list.  The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll (apparently) 
receive future ones.

Thanks Bryan and Jack.  
praedor

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:14 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 There were no spamassassin processes running when I did ps -A so it would
 appear not to be a logjam there.

 I also altered my procmailrc file slightely as you suggest, starting with
 :0f instead of :0: and adding the full path to spamc.  We'll see.

 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:59 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:57 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
   Thanks Bryan.  It arrived (in my logs only).  I have not actually seen
   it and cannot see it.  I do NOT understand what the deal is here.

 [...]

   So, it arrived and passed through spamd as it should.  It was cleared
   as nonspam (0.0/5.0).  It doesn't exist after this on my system.
 
  Do a ps -A and see how many SA threads you have running currently.  With
  the lockfile, it is possible that processing is just tied up trying to
  process the message and it is never being released back to Postfix for
  delivery.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
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Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

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[expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Jack Coates
the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a
bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need
to define new sources :-)

Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not
alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is
over.
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 OK, the changes appear to have fixed things.  I am actually receiving
 emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my
 do-not-process list.  The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll
 (apparently) receive future ones.

Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any lockfiles 
there.  If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages.

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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

There is nothing there.  No locks, nothing.  It would appear that however many 
there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test 
messages to myself as one distinct message).

My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay.  I 
have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit 
relaying within my subnet - by default).  I have seen several relay 
connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my 
subnetwork.  

praedor

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:40 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  OK, the changes appear to have fixed things.  I am actually receiving
  emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my
  do-not-process list.  The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll
  (apparently) receive future ones.

 Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any
 lockfiles there.  If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being 
belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700
Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a
 bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need
 to define new sources :-)
 
 Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not
 alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is
 over.

I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want, but
at about 1/3 of my normal download speed.  It appears that urpmi.update -a
--wget works!?

There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the
mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to
verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true

Tim

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Re: [expert] Can't install into Intel D865GLC MB with SATA drives

2003-10-15 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu 2003 
00:38):

Hello,

I'm trying to load Mandrake on a brand new P4 2.8ghz system using the Intel
D845GVAD2, with two 10K ROM SATA drives.  I have an IDE CDROM drive
attached.


What SATA controller?
That board does not have any integrated, so...
Oops, I read the wrong MB number.  It's the Intel 865GLC, sorry.

Mdk 9.0 would not find the CD Drive - died right away.
Mdk 9.1 would load some more from the CD, but then would fail looking for
the hard disk.  It wants to know what SCSI module to use.  I tried a whole
bunch, all to no avail.
Help!  I want to install (preferrably 9.0) on this lightning-fast machine! 
Thanks.

Bob


Sorry, 
no can do 

the SATA support for most chipsets boards has just gotten to the process where 
they get integrated in the current kernels, so the first MDK distro to 
support other SATA than Sil3112 are MDK 9.2 + driver disk..
Where can I find this driver?

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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:28 am, Richard Bown wrote:
 Hi Greg,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python
 python-2.3-3mdk

 So yes its there

Maybe the test file you are trying to download no longer exists, or if 
you are on dhcp and have a new ip address, you will have to get a new 
.torrent because they are designed to only work from the ip address you 
downloaded it from.
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread J.C. Woods
Praedor Atrebates wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
There is nothing there.  No locks, nothing.  It would appear that however many 
there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test 
messages to myself as one distinct message).

My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay.  I 
have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit 
relaying within my subnet - by default).  I have seen several relay 
connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my 
subnetwork.  

praedor

Only one place to go:

http://www.ordb.org

They will check you for open relays by direct testing of your mail 
server, and take you out of the blackhole, if you are indeed in the 
blackhole, if you pass. All this as a free service. You can not beat the 
deal.

drjung

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Re: [expert] Can't install into Intel D865GLC MB with SATA drives

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Backlund
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu 2003 
20:16):
  Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 15 Lokakuu
  2003
 
  00:38):
  Hello,
 
  I'm trying to load Mandrake on a brand new P4 2.8ghz system using the
  Intel D845GVAD2, with two 10K ROM SATA drives.  I have an IDE CDROM
  drive attached.
 
  What SATA controller?
  That board does not have any integrated, so...

 Oops, I read the wrong MB number.  It's the Intel 865GLC, sorry.

  Mdk 9.0 would not find the CD Drive - died right away.
  Mdk 9.1 would load some more from the CD, but then would fail looking
  for the hard disk.  It wants to know what SCSI module to use.  I tried
  a whole bunch, all to no avail.
 
  Help!  I want to install (preferrably 9.0) on this lightning-fast
  machine! Thanks.
 
  Bob
 
  Sorry,
  no can do
 
  the SATA support for most chipsets boards has just gotten to the process
  where they get integrated in the current kernels, so the first MDK distro
  to support other SATA than Sil3112 are MDK 9.2 + driver disk..

 Where can I find this driver?

 Bob

It's not built yet... AFAIK..., and if MDK won't be building any driver 
floppies, I will build them and post them on my site...

But I need to get the newer libata integrated in my kernels first...

And I know that one of the OEM partners has demanded the SATA support for 
atleast Intel Boards...

But you will atleast have to wait a week, before I can get around to building 
those driver disks...

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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:06:34 -0700
Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700
 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a
  bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need
  to define new sources :-)
  
  Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not
  alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is
  over.
 
 I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want,
 but at about 1/3 of my normal download speed.  It appears that
 urpmi.update -a--wget works!?
 
 There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the
 mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to
 verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true

Well. duh..

9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586

Tim

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[expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown
Hi All 

Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad,
its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels.

It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient.
using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2,
about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels

I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h.
There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file.
So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED] linrad-01.07]# ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for /usr/include/sys/soundcard.h... yes
checking for /usr/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /usr/local/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /lib/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /var/lib/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /opt/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /root/oss/soundcard.h... no
checking for /dev/dsp... yes
checking for /dev/sound/dsp... yes
checking for ./users_hwaredriver.c... no
checking for ./users_hwaredriver.c... (cached) no
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for vga.h... no
configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile
vga.h missing!!!

Any ideas how to get round this one ?

TIA
Richard

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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:

  There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
  the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
  connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
 
 Well. duh..
 
 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586

And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?
;-)

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Re: [expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread Kwan Lowe
 Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad,
 its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels.

 It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient.
 using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2,
 about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels

 I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h.
 There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file.
 So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:-

[...]
 checking for vga.h... no
 configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile
 vga.h missing!!!

Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed.

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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:26, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:28 am, Richard Bown wrote:
  Hi Greg,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python
  python-2.3-3mdk
 
  So yes its there
 
 Maybe the test file you are trying to download no longer exists, or if 
 you are on dhcp and have a new ip address, you will have to get a new 
 .torrent because they are designed to only work from the ip address you 
 downloaded it from.
The test file might have gone, but the ipaddress is still the same
,albeit it is dynamic and only changes when one of the routers gets
changed.
I would have expected something to happen when clicking on the icons
that got installed when the bittorrent rpms were installed.
Also running both mozilla on win98 and mdk9.1 the helper5 apps are in
both, yet on mdk9.1 the torrent function dos'nt go.

Oh well 75 hrs to go and I might have all 3 iso's..

TIA
Richard

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[expert] remotekeyboard in ssh

2003-10-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
Hello all,
Here's a strange problem I've encountered:

I've got a small spec laptop running applications on a ssh-server with 
Xforwarding. These machines have Belgian keyboards and special characters 
like ô or è. Locally I get these by first hitting the ^ key and then the 
letter that goes underneath like an o or a.

This will not work on the server thoughprobably 'cause it's becomes 2 
separate keyboard events due to ssh. I expect that a US-international 
keyboard would have the same problems.
 
Anybody got any idea's on workarounds, apart from remapping the keyboard?

Ergo (methinks); How do you tell a remote-Xserver to keep a certain key-action 
in cache remotely and then execute it locally and simultaneously with the 
next key-stroke?

Thanx,
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Re: [expert] Vanishing mail, postfix, procmail, or spamassassin?

2003-10-15 Thread Jack Coates
http://vger.kernel.org/mxverify.html

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 10:04, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 There is nothing there.  No locks, nothing.  It would appear that however many 
 there were (perhaps a total of 5 or 6 total, counting my numerous test 
 messages to myself as one distinct message).
 
 My next task is to ensure that my system isn't acting as an open relay.  I 
 have assumed that Postfix doesn't do this by default (it is setup to permit 
 relaying within my subnet - by default).  I have seen several relay 
 connections occur in my syslogs and know that none of them are really from my 
 subnetwork.  
 
 praedor
 
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:40 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:27 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
   OK, the changes appear to have fixed things.  I am actually receiving
   emails again from other than the expert list or other members of my
   do-not-process list.  The lost messages are still lost but at least I'll
   (apparently) receive future ones.
 
  Take a look in your /var/spool/mail directory and see if you see any
  lockfiles there.  If so, you may be able to recover the lost messages.
 
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 Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200
Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
 
   There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
   the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
   connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
  
  Well. duh..
  
  9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
  http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
 
 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
 acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
 knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?

I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???

See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)

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Re: [expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 19:28, Kwan Lowe wrote:
  Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad,
  its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels.
 
  It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient.
  using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2,
  about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels
 
  I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h.
  There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file.
  So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:-
 
 [...]
  checking for vga.h... no
  configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile
  vga.h missing!!!
 
 Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed.

But where are they sourced Kwan ?
I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including
cooker.
There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2
and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000.


Are the RPMs for PLD linux mdk or RH compatable ??
or is PLD on offshoot of Suse or Debian.
there is both src.rpm and rpm for PLD on rpmfind  ??

Richard

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Re: [expert] corrupt tar fil

2003-10-15 Thread chmod
 Gnu tar can apparently read POSIX archives without problem.  The issue,
 as you suggested, may be that the archive itself is corrupt. From a
 quick google it appears that transferring a tar file in non-binary mode
 can lead to such corruption. So next question:  Did you ftp this file
 from another machine? If you did, did you remember to transfer in Binary
 mode?

I can't be sure, but i believe it was a working archive when i burnt it to
the CD i am now trying to get it off.

My next step is to go fire up the computer that has the burner that made
this cd.

I painted my computer room, so that computer is not hooked up at the
moment, nor does it have the software i originally used, which sucks cuz
it was direct-cd, which i don't know of working with linux.

I'll have to google on that when i get home, but does anybody know a way
to search a cdrom that isn't properly ormatted ?

Thanks for the help,
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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

October 15, 2003 01:17 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200

 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
  
   Well. duh..
  
   9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
   http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
 
  And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
  acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
  knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?

 I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
 October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???

 See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)

 Tim

The 9.2 Canicule trees would need to be on the mirrors as they are because:

Those individuals with access to the ISOs ahead of mere mortals g will need 
to be able to add the contrib directories for a lot of software not on the 
disks;

The ISOs won't hold everything in main simply because of space limitations so 
that needs to be there as well;

The SRPMS need to be there so that people with odd hardware systems can roll 
their own.

I'm sure there are other reasons too. Just my brief take.

BTW there are no hdlist2.cz files on the mirrors so you'll probably have to 
genhdlist on the full tree to use contribs anyway.

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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Markus Ueberall
Hi Richard,

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Richard Bown wrote:

 I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
 All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
 mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
 from BitTorrent.download import download
 ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download

(In another posting, you stated that you have python 2.3 installed, and
this is what causes the problem)

 What did I miss ??

Python simply doesn't find the modules, since the default search path is
/usr/lib/pythonVERSION/site-packages -- just enter the following and
see if you get the same result (I bet you do):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]rpm -ql bittorrent | grep download.pyc
/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.pyc

So, in order to load the module, just provide the right search path:

export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages

This should do the trick ...


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Re: [expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread Kwan Lowe


 Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed.

 But where are they sourced Kwan ?
 I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including
 cooker.
 There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2
 and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000.

You can grab the src rpm from another distro and rebuild. If you run into
rpm macro errors, take a look in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file to make sure
that the macro exists. If it doesn't, the easiest thing is usually to
extract the macros file from the rpm package for the distro that you got
the src.rpm from.

That wasn't too clear :D

If you grab a redhat SRC.RPM for svgalib then try to rebuild, you may get
errors such as unknown tag, macro not found, or no job control in shell.
These usually indicate missing macros in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file and
is common when compiling non-native source rpms.  The workaround is to
find the rpm-VERSION-i386.rpm file for the alien distribution then extract
the macros file from the RPM binary (use rpm2cpio). Next, copy the
relevant portions of the alien macros file into your own .rpmmacros or the
system wide /usr/lib/rpm/macros file.
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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown


Thanks Markus

That nows behaves like a torrent, 
There are still some errors , but it will have to wait until some
sanity returns to all the mirrors


Richard
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 20:37, Markus Ueberall wrote:
 Hi Richard,
 
 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Richard Bown wrote:
 
  I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
  All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
  mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
  from BitTorrent.download import download
  ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download
 
 (In another posting, you stated that you have python 2.3 installed, and
 this is what causes the problem)
 
  What did I miss ??
 
 Python simply doesn't find the modules, since the default search path is
 /usr/lib/pythonVERSION/site-packages -- just enter the following and
 see if you get the same result (I bet you do):
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]rpm -ql bittorrent | grep download.pyc
 /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/BitTorrent/download.pyc
 
 So, in order to load the module, just provide the right search path:
 
 export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages
 
 This should do the trick ...
 
 
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Re: [expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 20:57, Kwan Lowe wrote:
OK Kwan I think I understand, at the moment the mirrors are so heavily
being used , I cant download much at all.
I think I understand , and I'll try it in the morning, when those to the
west are tucked up in bed and those to the east are at work or going to
bed..
Tnx Richard
 
 You can grab the src rpm from another distro and rebuild. If you run into
 rpm macro errors, take a look in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file to make sure
 that the macro exists. If it doesn't, the easiest thing is usually to
 extract the macros file from the rpm package for the distro that you got
 the src.rpm from.
 
 That wasn't too clear :D
 
 If you grab a redhat SRC.RPM for svgalib then try to rebuild, you may get
 errors such as unknown tag, macro not found, or no job control in shell.
 These usually indicate missing macros in the /usr/lib/rpm/macros file and
 is common when compiling non-native source rpms.  The workaround is to
 find the rpm-VERSION-i386.rpm file for the alien distribution then extract
 the macros file from the RPM binary (use rpm2cpio). Next, copy the
 relevant portions of the alien macros file into your own .rpmmacros or the
 system wide /usr/lib/rpm/macros file.
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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:17, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
...
 I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
 October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???
 
 See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)
 

rpms != isos

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Re: [expert] LM9.2: MD5 sums for Download Powerpack editions

2003-10-15 Thread Rolf Pedersen


Frederic Soulier wrote:
Hi

I've seen the MD5 sums for the Download edition and the ones I have have
the same MD5 sums. Could someone post their Powerpack edition MD5 sums?
Thanks.

For the Download edition:
40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974
MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso
e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e 
MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso

2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 
MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso



For the Powerpack edition I have:
e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso
163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso
ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso
For powerpack:
e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5  MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso
163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59  MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso
ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c  MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso
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Re: [expert] libgal

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 01:58, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:21:32 -0700
 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  They aren't MDK Lint compliant. (no changelog etc) but they are rpms
  that work on your system.
 
 Lint?

lint is a template that checks the rpm config file for compliance with
MDK format style and standard.  Since you don't end up building src rpms
with this but rather just a binary rpm that is managable via rpm it's
not as critical.  Translation.  You can use them but they aren't ready
for distribution via MDK.

James

 
 Maybe when you see my other question... ;-)
 
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Re: [expert] new brain please: bittorrent

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 08:28, Richard Bown wrote:
 Hi Greg, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ rpm -qa python
 python-2.3-3mdk
 
 So yes its there

I can duplicate this on my cooker box if I'm running the bittorrent rpms
from Texstar  Since they are a backport of the ones in cooker then they
don't get upgraded. Are you doing the same?

James

 
 
 Richard
 
 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 15:30, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 08:37 am, Richard Bown wrote:
   I'm going nuts !
  
   I've installed bittorrent exactly as per the FAQ on the club pages.
   All the RPMS installed and bittorrent3.3.2, and the gui version.
  
   I'm running Gnome here so on the menus under networkingfile transfer
   I have 2 icons,
   One for bittorrent creator, and the other for bittorrent gui.
   select either has no effect.
  
  
   trying from the command line with the test package
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# btdownloadcurses.py test
   mytorrent-richardbown929.torrent
   Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py, line 7, in ?
   from BitTorrent.download import download
   ImportError: No module named BitTorrent.download
  
   OK I can download 9.2 on a win98 using win4lin.
   I'd prefer to do it properly with a proper OS.
  
   What did I miss ??
  
  Do you have Python installed?


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Re: [expert] 9.2 and Windows Compatibility

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 06:31, HaywireMac wrote:
 I was going to send a link to some friends about the availability of
 this Discovery Edition, but there's one thing I'd like to clarify, if
 anyone can.
 
 It claims:
 
 9- Compatibility: Run Windows and Mandrake Linux on the same computer
 simultaneously

where did you see this?  
 
 What exactly does this mean? Simultaneously does not seem to imply a
 dual boot, does this edition come with some sort of package like
 Crossover or Win4Lin?
 
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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members. (GOOD NEWS)

2003-10-15 Thread Mark Williamson
Hi Everyone,

Looks like the Mandrake club has fixed the transparent proxy issue, via
downloading the mytorrent-(userid).torrent file using a different port.
I am now downloading the and uploading the ISO, excellent stuff..   it's
coming down at 50K/sec and some times shooting to about 80K/sec, maybe
it will get even quicker when more people get to start downloading it.

Cheers
Mark  

On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 01:19, Tibor Pittich wrote:
 On 15. October 2003 at 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote:
 
  Your ISP is probably forcing you through a transparent proxy, so the 
  tracker cannot get your real ip address.  There is a lot of discussion 
  on the Club about this.
 
 doesn't help this option?
 --ip/-i arg
   ip to report you have to the tracker. (defaults to '')



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Re: [expert] Ancient lib

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:30, Richard Bown wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 19:28, Kwan Lowe wrote:
   Trying to compile a DSP package called Linrad,
   its for very low level radio sigs that are below noise levels.
  
   It requires svgalib -1.4.3 or later, this I suspect is ancient.
   using RPMfind that version seems to the same vintage as RH 6.2,
   about the time of the change from 2.0 to 2.2 kernels
  
   I can see in configure its looking for vga.h and vgagl.h.
   There is a copy of vga.h in the drivers but not the other file.
   So at the moment I cant create a Makefile see below:-
  
  [...]
   checking for vga.h... no
   configure: error: Must have svgalib package installed to compile
   vga.h missing!!!
  
  Make sure that you have both svgalib and svgalib-devel installed.
 
 But where are they sourced Kwan ?
 I hav'nt been able to find them on any of the mandrake sites , including
 cooker.
 There are a couple of references to svgalibs on LUNI and MDK7.2
 and they are dated between 1997 and the last I've seen is 2000.
 
 
 Are the RPMs for PLD linux mdk or RH compatable ??
 or is PLD on offshoot of Suse or Debian.
 there is both src.rpm and rpm for PLD on rpmfind  ??
 
 Richard

The last time it (vgagl.h) was in MDK was 9.0  

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?idpl=277178stat=4search=vgagl.hcom=libsvgalib1-devel-1.4.3-3mdk.i586.rpm.html

is a url where you can download the src rpm for it.  

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Re: [expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread lorne
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:50 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux,
  e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I
  haven't been able to find out much about this.  Is there any software
  that makes this easy?

 There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most
 cases double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is
 not trivial.  That is true for both Linux and Windows.  Doing this involves
 identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want, ripping the
 vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or plugin to DeCSS the
 vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if desired) at the same
 time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to vob files that are no
 longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and .ifo file to the DVD
 blank in the correct format.

 I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is
 not the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and it
 should remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the media)
 for your lifetime if not longer.

I can tell you one VERY good reason to do this. Well more than one. :)
My children are not old enough to jump through all the hoops of wide format, 
normal format and all of other 7 minutes worth of hoop jumping to just watch 
the blame movie! I had a brand new Shrek. My 3 year old put it in on top of 
another disk in my juke box. It scratched it so badly it no longer plays. So 
from now on I use a windows product (until I find something like it for 
linux) called DVDXcopy Gold. Wonderful product. Now I keep my originals 
safely tucked away, and the kids pop this sucker in and it starts playing 
like a tape. It is GREAT!

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Re: [expert] DVD backup

2003-10-15 Thread lorne
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:44 pm, lorne wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 06:50 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:12 am, Daniel Axtell wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I was wondering if it's possible to make backups of dvd's under linux,
   e.g. keep the original pristine and play the backup dvd-r copy.  I
   haven't been able to find out much about this.  Is there any software
   that makes this easy?
 
  There is software to do this but making backups of commercial (in most
  cases double density) DVD's that are playable on consumer DVD players is
  not trivial.  That is true for both Linux and Windows.  Doing this
  involves identifying the vob files that contain the movie that you want,
  ripping the vob files from the DVD, passing it through a decoder or
  plugin to DeCSS the vob file, removing Macrovision and Country code (if
  desired) at the same time, editing the .ifo file to remove references to
  vob files that are no longer present and rewriting the decoded vobs and
  .ifo file to the DVD blank in the correct format.
 
  I also can't imagine why you would want to, playing a DVD in a player is
  not the same as playing a vinyl record, there is no wear on the DVD and
  it should remain fairly pristine (assuming that you don't manhandle the
  media) for your lifetime if not longer.

 I can tell you one VERY good reason to do this. Well more than one. :)
 My children are not old enough to jump through all the hoops of wide
 format, normal format and all of other 7 minutes worth of hoop jumping to
 just watch the blame movie! I had a brand new Shrek. My 3 year old put it
 in on top of another disk in my juke box. It scratched it so badly it no
 longer plays. So from now on I use a windows product (until I find
 something like it for linux) called DVDXcopy Gold. Wonderful product. Now I
 keep my originals safely tucked away, and the kids pop this sucker in and
 it starts playing like a tape. It is GREAT!

  Take a look at the DVDRip interface from PLF.

Either I misunderstood the original question or the answer was misguided, 
since the URL mentioned talks of copying to a CD. How about something that 
does like DVDXcopy for winblows? DVD to DVD?

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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Theo Brinkman
Here's how I did mine, and it worked great.  (Left it up overnight last 
night, too.)

python /usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.py torrent file/ --max_upload_rate 20

I got downloads in excess of 300KB/s at peak, and easily averaged 200.

   - Theo

James Sparenberg wrote:

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 22:49, Vox wrote:
 

On September 1993 plus 3696 days Greg Meyer wrote:

   

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 12:50 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
 

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:38:50 -0700

James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because
right now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent
*grin* I need some speed!!!
 

I'm not a member, but there are **tons** of complaints on
www.madrakeusers.org
that everyone it downloading awfully slow.
Since I did the urpmi update to 9.2 a month ago, I'll just wait until
all the mirrors are not slashdotted!  ;-)
   

I think a big reason for the slowness is that the uploads are choking 
the downloads.  Most consumer oriented broadband services are 
half-duplex, so if you max out your upload, you can't download 
anything.  I set --max_upload_rate to about 80% of my upstream cap and 
my download took off.  I went from 30KB/s to about 210KB/s.
 

 I tried doing that, but I'm getting a weird error from it...if
 anybody's got a clue, I'd be happy :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 10 /home/vox/mytorrent-vox.torrent 
These errors occurred during execution:
[00:45:23] error: Too many args - 0 max.
run with no args for parameter explanations
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vox]$ 

  Vox
   

Same kind of prb here... I'm going to switch to the rpms from texstar
and see if those work with this switch.  right now I'm doing 8kbs up and
1 down.  

 



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[expert] LM9.2: MD5 sums for Download Powerpack editions

2003-10-15 Thread Frederic Soulier
Hi

I've seen the MD5 sums for the Download edition and the ones I have have
the same MD5 sums. Could someone post their Powerpack edition MD5 sums?

Thanks.

For the Download edition:
40c8812dce7b9f8fb0a3b364af62b974
MandrakeLinux-9.2-17-Download-1.i586.iso

e07fe7b1474eb3ba35cac3dfd479777e 
MandrakeLinux-9.2-18-Download-2.i586.iso

2b6ffc5957533c927f14197ec99a0372 
MandrakeLinux-9.2-19-Download-3.i586.iso



For the Powerpack edition I have:
e3eba206a50828690f1f26628c437fe5 MandrakeLinux-9.2-03-Install-1.i586.iso
163942672cdb9880353eadea1494ac59 MandrakeLinux-9.2-04-Install-2.i586.iso
ce57799ca2e23311a4b5c196de96612c MandrakeLinux-9.2-05-I18n-Com.i586.iso

-- 
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[expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread Joeb
Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist on 
the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it just my 
CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but it would 
have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of any other 
files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?

Joeb



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Re: [expert] MDK9.2 for Club members.

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Go to the club and get your bittorrents running.  Mainly because right
 now I think I'm dang near the only one on the torrent *grin* I need
 some speed!!!

Well, I stated up bittorrent  last night, and I have had pokey download 
speeds, typically around 10-12KB/second, and it is constatnly crashing.

Now, I am sitting behind a Linux firewall/router that I built up a couple of 
years ago, using the DENY ALL sort of attitude.

But now I am forgetting. It is built with ip-chains and probably RH 7.1 or 
7.2.

What files do I edit, and what do I say to open the bittorrent ports, 
6881-6999. And how about providing outbound access on 6969?

Rob

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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:
 Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
 on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
 just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
 it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
 any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?

I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
and installed.
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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread Joeb
Greg Meyer wrote:

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:
 

Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?
   

I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
and installed.
 



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I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the 
basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that 
there would have been room.  It's really pretty poor that the kernel 
sources aren't included as many people need to compile things!  I'm 
wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be 
fixed?  If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake.  I 
can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that 
they don't have a high speed connection.  If that's the case, then 
setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work.  Further more, as many 
9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 
9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something 
that wasn't on the CDs.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: [expert] urpmi

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:19, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
 
   There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
   the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
   connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
  
  Well. duh..
  
  9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
  http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
 
 And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
 acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
 knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?
 ;-)
 
 wobo

Well the page is there the list is there.   But if you go straight into
a number of those mirrors the files aren't there.  As in no 9.2
directory just 9.0 and 9.1

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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:
   
 
 Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
 on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
 just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
 it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
 any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?
 
 
 
 I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
 actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
 won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
 source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
 and installed.
   
 
 
 
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 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
   
 
 I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the 
 basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that 
 there would have been room.  It's really pretty poor that the kernel 
 sources aren't included as many people need to compile things!  I'm 
 wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be 
 fixed?  If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake.  I 
 can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that 
 they don't have a high speed connection.  If that's the case, then 
 setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work.  Further more, as many 
 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 
 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something 
 that wasn't on the CDs.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Joeb
 
 

My 3rd CD is 696 MB  granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough
for the kernel source.  For that I recommend urpmi.  

James

 
 
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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread Joeb
James Sparenberg wrote:

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote:
 

Greg Meyer wrote:

   

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:

 

Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?
  

   

I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
and installed.



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I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the 
basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that 
there would have been room.  It's really pretty poor that the kernel 
sources aren't included as many people need to compile things!  I'm 
wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be 
fixed?  If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake.  I 
can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that 
they don't have a high speed connection.  If that's the case, then 
setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work.  Further more, as many 
9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 
9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something 
that wasn't on the CDs.

Just my 2 cents.

Joeb

   

My 3rd CD is 696 MB  granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough
for the kernel source.  For that I recommend urpmi.  

James

 

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Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation 
(kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff).  
Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a 
few now.  Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or 
winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers!

Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple 
solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the 
kernel headers/sources.  We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 
40MB.  IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release 
candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now.  Also, isn't the 
idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release?  If the 
packages have been deleted, then how is it a test?

Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why 
would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the 
need to delete them)?

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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:45, Joeb wrote:
 James Sparenberg wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote:
   
 
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 
 
 
 On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
 on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
 just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
 it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
 any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?
 

 
 
 
 I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
 actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
 won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
 source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
 and installed.
  
 
 
 
 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
 Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
  
 
   
 
 I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the 
 basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that 
 there would have been room.  It's really pretty poor that the kernel 
 sources aren't included as many people need to compile things!  I'm 
 wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be 
 fixed?  If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake.  I 
 can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that 
 they don't have a high speed connection.  If that's the case, then 
 setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work.  Further more, as many 
 9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 
 9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something 
 that wasn't on the CDs.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Joeb
 
 
 
 
 
 My 3rd CD is 696 MB  granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough
 for the kernel source.  For that I recommend urpmi.  
 
 James
 
   
 
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 Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation 
 (kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff).  
 Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a 
 few now.  Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or 
 winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers!
 
 Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple 
 solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the 
 kernel headers/sources.  We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 
 40MB.  IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release 
 candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now.  Also, isn't the 
 idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release?  If the 
 packages have been deleted, then how is it a test?
 
 Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why 
 would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the 
 need to delete them)?
 
 Joeb

A lot gets duplicated.  It does that so you don't have to switch the
disks more than 1 time.  As for what does doesn't get included.  As far
as I'm concerned about 1 disk worth is useless.  But a lot wouldn't
agree.  (Emacs in all of it's forms could be dropped and I'd wouldn't
miss it, but others would have a hissy fit.)  The one major concession
was that disk 1 is 650mb.  Why.  So that if your boxes cd drive can't
read 700mb disks (and there are a lot of them.) You can at least get a
box up.  One note.  Anyone downloading the iso's or using bittorrent
either has broadband, or ... is a real glutton for pain.  

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Re: [expert] Kernel source missing from 9.2 ISOs

2003-10-15 Thread Joeb
James Sparenberg wrote:

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:45, Joeb wrote:
 

James Sparenberg wrote:

   

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote:

 

Greg Meyer wrote:

  

   

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote:



 

Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources.  They exist
on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd.  Is it
just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again).  I can DL the sources, but
it would have been nice if they were included!  Does anyone know of
any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree?
 

  

   

I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set.  There is 
actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's.  It just 
won't all fit on 3 cd's.  But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi 
source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded 
and installed.



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I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the 
basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that 
there would have been room.  It's really pretty poor that the kernel 
sources aren't included as many people need to compile things!  I'm 
wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be 
fixed?  If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake.  I 
can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that 
they don't have a high speed connection.  If that's the case, then 
setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work.  Further more, as many 
9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run 
9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something 
that wasn't on the CDs.

Just my 2 cents.

Joeb

  

   

My 3rd CD is 696 MB  granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough
for the kernel source.  For that I recommend urpmi.  

James



 

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Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation 
(kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff).  
Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a 
few now.  Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or 
winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers!

Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple 
solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the 
kernel headers/sources.  We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just 
40MB.  IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release 
candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now.  Also, isn't the 
idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release?  If the 
packages have been deleted, then how is it a test?

Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why 
would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the 
need to delete them)?

Joeb
   

A lot gets duplicated.  It does that so you don't have to switch the
disks more than 1 time.  As for what does doesn't get included.  As far
as I'm concerned about 1 disk worth is useless.  But a lot wouldn't
agree.  (Emacs in all of it's forms could be dropped and I'd wouldn't
miss it, but others would have a hissy fit.)  The one major concession
was that disk 1 is 650mb.  Why.  So that if your boxes cd drive can't
read 700mb disks (and there are a lot of them.) You can at least get a
box up.  One note.  Anyone downloading the iso's or using bittorrent
either has broadband, or ... is a real glutton for pain.  

James



 



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I don't have broadband at home, but I do at work.  Therefore, installing 
9.2 at home but not having the kernel sources is a real problem (since 
it also effectively kills off my modem, since I can't compile it's 
drivers and my NVidia card, too).  Yes, I can go to work, download the 
sources, burn them to CD and then bring them home and the problem is 
resolved (but not solved).  But, how many people without broadband will 
buy CDs from one of the web-sites that sell them and will be stuck 
because they can't effectively create a source for URPMI with their dial 
up.  Or what about the poor people in Europe who have monthly 
download/upload minutes who have used up most of the month's quota just 
getting the ISOs only to find out they need to download more, but now