Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Joachim Holst
Dont forget about 'The Bat'. Think it's still alive. It was a real good mailer 
with lots of features.

Regards,
Joachim Holst
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Sunday 19 October 2003 23:28, Anne Wilson wrote:

That's one I hadn't thought of.  Thanks
Here's another one: Calypso, it has some very nice features in it
including filtering on the server. And it has good looks;)
The only mailer I advise to Win sufferers.
That one I'd never heard of.  I'll put it on the list of possibles.  I
can see I have a lot of reading to do, to see which one would be
easiest/best for her.  Thanks
Anne
look for it on tucowsit's abandon-ware and very good IMO.

Good luck,
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Re: [expert] NFS install?

2003-10-21 Thread Joachim Holst
Gary Hodder wrote:

I wonder if it will be possible to install Mandrake 9.,2 on an NFS system.
I do not mean FROM an NFS system. I want to install Mandrake on a Diskless
machine!
Sorry for repeating stuff, but I want to make it clear that I do not want
to install the system from an NFS mount!
I haven't done it, but I know others have.

The Linux Documentation Project is the best place on the net for information 
like this, www.tldp.org. Yours is at: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-Root.html

Oh I see. The hard way :-)
Had somewhat hoped that Mandrake would support it in the install phase.
I usually hate to recompile Mandrake kernels have always had great trouble 
with them :-(

You could also look at the Linux Terminal Server Project found at
http://www.ltsp.org
I have had 4 of these running ranging from pentium 120 with 32mb ram and
up. 16mb of ram will work ok but 32 is better.
My first was a dx2-66 with 8mb of ram, it worked but was a bit slow.
The server will need plenty of ram, I had 512mb in the server and was
using it as a client as well and it worked fine.
LTSP is the reason that I want to install a machine on an NFS filesystem. LTSP 
needs a server. It's this server I want on an NFS filesystem  :-) I do not 
want to waste 75GB to install an operating system that rarely will use more 
than 5. My server is real good at serving files but it doesn't have X on it 
and it never will either :-)

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Re: [expert] Backing up my DVDs in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Frederic Soulier
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 00:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know this is *possible*, and I've read several HOWTOs on the net. I'm
 just curious whether anybody on this list has experimented with the
 various options out there, and which worked better than others.
 
 At the moment I just have a CD-burner so will be making VCDs; in the near
 future I will also have a DVD-burner, so would appreciate help on that
 also. 
 
 Also, what should I look out for when purchasing my DVD-burner? Which
 play better with Linux? 

Well, I bought a pioneer DVD-R106 a couple of weeks ago and it works out
of the box with LM9.2 (haven't tried it with LM9.1). Here in the UK you
can find it for GBP 107.98 (incl. VAT)
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_RW_Drives.html)

This is the first piece of hardware I bought that I tried first in Linux
and worked 1st time! Backed up 4.4Gb of data yesterday on-the-fly in 16
minutes. So I'm a happy bunny :) Actually, a really really really happy
bunny g
Also plays all regions with ogle, mplayer, etc from plf.

 Finally, given that I have european family who don't get region
 encoding and send us DVDs as xmas gifts, do I want to look at decss, or
 other?
 
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Re: [expert] 9.2 and Evolution

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown

No I did'nt submit a bug report ,I put it in the comments when it was in
club test on the club test page..
maybe I should have raise a bug report.
I prefer when raising a bug report to know someone else has seen the
effect as well.

The version on Cooker 1.4.4-9 prints OK


Richard
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:11, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 06:11, Richard Bown wrote:
  I upgraded from 9.1 to 9.2 the same as the vast majority will do.
  If you print from 1.4 on a 9.1 system you get the same stupid font, and
  only able to type  about 4 words  before forcing on to a new line.
  
  Richard
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:25, Mike Carter wrote:
   I am using it right now and it is working just fine.  BTW this is an
   upgrade of 9.2rc2 I am using.
   cheers,
   Mike
   
   On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 18:48, Richard Bown wrote:
re: evolution
from my previous mail the version of evolution ver 1.4.4 thats
distributed is BUST. the version on cooker 1.4.4-9 is OK and needs to be
moved to 9.2 upgrades ASAP.
Richard
still miffed
 
 Richard,
 
I've talked with some friends at MDK and on this one they've asked me
 to ask you to submit a bug report at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com. 
 It's a self registration situation.  They have also passed on that a bug
 fix is due out Wens (US time) to fix some of the problems in Evolution. 
 What they are asking also is that after you file the bug report (on what
 you said above) please try the new rpm... then report success or failure
 for your problems.
 
 James
 
 
 
 
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[expert] OT: Software patent stuff

2003-10-21 Thread Patricia Fraser
Hi folks,

And I thought it was all over...

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Re: [expert] What is the matter with Mandrake urpmi sources?

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown

I'm getting the same with nearly every site that has club stuff on it,
the only one which tries to download is the greek one, but that also
fails.
I guess its the amount of downloads of 9.2 is clogging the system.
Before 9.2 was released I found the site at canterbury in the UK very
reliable and quick.
HTH
Richard
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 20:11, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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 I run into this distressingly often.  I try to update mandrake urpmi sources 
 only to be told that there were problems or errors:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] download]# urpmi.addmedia -h mirrors.secsup.org_devel 
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS
 added medium mirrors.secsup.org_devel
 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
 examining synthesis file 
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates_csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu_i586_9.1.cz]
 examining synthesis file 
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.distrib_ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu_i586_9.1.cz]
 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]
 retrieving description file of mirrors.secsup.org_devel...
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of mirrors.secsup.org_devel...
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/synthesis.hdlist.cz
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/synthesis.hdlist.cz
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/base/hdlist.cz
 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
 no hdlist file found for medium mirrors.secsup.org_devel
 examining synthesis file 
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mirrors.secsup.org_devel.cz]
 problem reading synthesis file of medium mirrors.secsup.org_devel
 unable to update medium mirrors.secsup.org_devel
 
 Same thing with virtually any and all other possible sources.  All I want is a 
 kernel-source-tmb rpm so I can patch the orinoco driver and build the kernel.  
 I cannot find this rpm.  If I manually go to the websites instead of doing 
 the urpmi thing (from MandrakeClub) I get the message that the file doesn't 
 exist OR it downloads and segfaults when trying to install it.
 
 Where on this earth is it possible to acquire a kernel-source-tmb kernel of 
 recent vintage?  
 
 praedor
 
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[expert] Solved: Direct Rendering

2003-10-21 Thread turgut kalfaoglu
After working on it for many days, I was able to fix my Direct Rendering
problem after a clean install of Mandrake 9.1, followed by a kernel
upgrade to 2.4.22. Previously, I was trying to get DRI to work under
2.6.0test7 kernel, which I believe has serious problems with DRI, and I
would be amazed and in awe if anyone has gotten that combination to work.

After I re-installed Mandrake 9.1, I upgraded its kernel from source of
plain-vanilla 2.4.22, which disabled the DRI. Binary distribution of DRI
did not help; it just complained that my AGP heap was too old. I already
had the DRI-CVS tree on my disk, I just re-did the kernel modules with
make -f Makefile.Linux
and manually copied radeon.o to /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/char/drm
Upon restart, I had my DRI working again.

Btw, the hardware is an IBM Thinkpad R40 with 1400x1050 X resolution.

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Re: [expert] What is the matter with Mandrake urpmi sources?

2003-10-21 Thread Thomas Backlund

From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, OK...but then, MandrakeClub happily sends you to the download page
for
src.rpms and includes (useless) urpmi instructions for each link.

In any case, I then tried looking for kernel-source-tmb in MandrakeClub and
found reference to it in Mandrake Cooker.  I went to the download page,
used
the urpmi source link and then tried to install kernel-source, expecting
a
list to come up with the -tmb kernel among them.  Nope.  I got a
2.4.21-0.25mdk kernel and a 2.4.22 multimedia kernel.  OK, I give up.  So I
decided to download the 2.4.22 multimedia kernel source and...boop!  It
doesn't exist.  This inspite of the fact that I just updated ALL my urpmi
sources immediately prior to this attempt.  It shows up when I urpmi
kernel-source but none of them actually exist.

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/kernel-tmb-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/kernel-tmb-enterprise-2.4.22.12.tmb.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586/kernel-tmb-source-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk.i586.rpm

This same kernel set is also in MDK 9.2 contribs...

As there have been problems with urpmi sources lately, try using --wget as
it's not as picky as curl...

#urpmi.update -a --wget
#urpmi --wget kernel-tmb-source

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Re: [expert] 9.2 and GIMP ???

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:14, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 15:02, Richard Bown wrote:
  Hi
  this is minor but damn annoying
  
  After trying to print a jpeg from  gimp-1.2.5-6mdk to an Epson C82
  printer using CUPS, instead of a nice piccy of a swiss steam engine I
  got
  1 line of about 20 characters mix of german, greek , math symbols.
  
  on page after page after page.
  Flushed the printer queueno change
  removed printer for config.no change
  disconnected the printer..no change
  power cycled the printer eventually stops
  reconnected the printer to PC. it starts again  !!!
  reboot the PC  its still going
  power down the pc  it stopped
  
  
  reconfigure the printer in CUPs
  and print a test page.working
  Thats the first time I've ever seen that..
  OK it may be a coincidence that 9.2 is involved as the other factor is
  the new kernel 2.4.22
  
  has anyone seen similar  ???
  
  Richard
 
 One question.  How many different drivers did drakprint have for your
 printer.  One option could be to try one of the other ones.  If this
 doesn't work. bugs.mandrakesoft.com is your friend. *grin*
 
 James
 
 
Just checked there are now only 2 drivers for the Epson C82 
the one I was using CUPS +GIMP
and ghostscript + gimp, Ive now changed to the latter, and wait see if
it happens again.
This does look like a wayward process, as once the printer is removed
from the config it should stop , but this does'nt, it just keeps spew
ing out of the parport... maybe worth trying the printer on the USB
port.
I does mean I have to watch whats being printed, cant just send it
remotely and trust..

else you end up with as much paper as you loaded all with a quarter line
of garbage on the top of each sheet.
Whats really strange is that rebooting dos'nt stop it onlt power down..

Richard

 
 
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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:31:03 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Linux can be easily exploited.  Don't believe me.  Grab the old
 wu-ftpd anon ftp rpms install them get a cup of coffee and come back..
 You will be root-kitted. However distro's like MDK dropping such huge
 holes helps a lot here.

So I can put you down for 20 bones on the Windows box? ;-)

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[expert] Odd message during shutdown..

2003-10-21 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
When I do a shutdown -h now, I get the usual mesages, plus some more:

(writing all this from the top of my head):

it first says:
Sending all processes the TERM signal..
;2R

(note the ;2R on the second line. It just waits now, i hit ENTER, and I
get something like:  'bash: invalid parameter ;' or something.
I actually get the $ prompt and after I type a few lines, it resumes.
I did an RGREP for this string, did not find it under /etc..!

Any ideas?
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Re: [expert] Odd message during shutdown..

2003-10-21 Thread Onur Kucuk

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:06:47 +0300 (EEST)
Turgut Kalfaoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TK When I do a shutdown -h now, I get the usual mesages, plus some
TK more:
TK 
TK (writing all this from the top of my head):
TK 
TK it first says:
TK Sending all processes the TERM signal..
TK ;2R
TK 
TK (note the ;2R on the second line. It just waits now, i hit ENTER,
TK and I get something like:  'bash: invalid parameter ;' or something.
TK I actually get the $ prompt and after I type a few lines, it
TK resumes. I did an RGREP for this string, did not find it under
TK /etc..!
TK 
TK Any ideas?
TK -turgut


 Just remove the .UTF-8 stuff in /etc/sysconfig/i18n

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Re: [expert] 9.2 and USB flash memory

2003-10-21 Thread Markus Ueberall
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, D. R. Evans wrote:

 Under 9.2, when I plug in the stick, a /mnt/removable icon appears on the 
 desktop, but when I click on that icon, a Konq window pops up and says that 
 there are no files on the stick.

I mounted the stick myself and put the following in my /etc/fstab (after
that, an icon called /mnt/usbstick appeared on the desktop the next time
I used it)--ignore any linebreaks:

none /mnt/usbstick supermount 
dev=/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc,fs=vfat,rw,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15 
0 0

Of course, you'll have to enter mkdir /mnt/usbstick; chmod 666 /mnt/usbstick first.
Note the trailing /disc (won't work without it here);  /var/log/messages contains:

= bite here =
Oct 21 12:09:12 entoron kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:1d.0-1, assigned address 2
Oct 21 12:09:12 entoron kernel: hub.c: USB hub found
Oct 21 12:09:12 entoron kernel: hub.c: 1 port detected
Oct 21 12:09:13 entoron kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:1d.0-1.1, assigned address 3
Oct 21 12:09:13 entoron kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x67b/0x2517) is not 
claimed by any active driver.
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product 
67b/2517/1
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 
67b/2515/1
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel:   Vendor: SHARKOON  Model: USB2.0 Drive  Rev: P1.0
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI 
revision: 02
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Module setup usb-storage for USB 
product 67b/2517/1
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron /etc/hotplug/usb/usb-storage: Load scsimon
Oct 21 12:09:17 entoron /etc/hotplug/usb/usb-storage: loading ... scsimon
Oct 21 12:09:18 entoron /etc/hotplug/scsi.agent: loading ... sd_mod
Oct 21 12:09:18 entoron /etc/hotplug/scsi.agent: sr_mod allready loaded
Oct 21 12:09:18 entoron kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, 
id 0, lun 0
Oct 21 12:09:18 entoron kernel: SCSI device sda: 2048000 512-byte hdwr sectors (1049 
MB)
Oct 21 12:09:18 entoron kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Oct 21 12:09:19 entoron kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
= bite here =

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Re: [expert] Odd message during shutdown..

2003-10-21 Thread Markus Ueberall
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:

 When I do a shutdown -h now, I get the usual mesages, plus some more:
 Sending all processes the TERM signal..
 ;2R
 (note the ;2R on the second line. It just waits now, i hit ENTER, and I
 get something like:  'bash: invalid parameter ;' or something.
 I actually get the $ prompt and after I type a few lines, it resumes.

I understand that this is a problem with UTF-8 support on the terminal
(some kind of uncatched control sequence).
I had this under MDK9.1 when I selected Unicode representation; if you can
live without Unicode, simply don't use it at the moment...

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Re: [expert] Backing up my DVDs in 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 20 October 2003 09:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, the dvd tools being what they are in their current state, I would not 
want to make the process any more difficult for myself and purchasing a USB 
drive simply adds that much more to the potential problems.


  You will have to look at something to that effect but you may want to
  query
  someone off of a public mailing list before asking someone to recommend a
  method for bypassing Digital Rights Management encryption.

 Oh, in that case I shelve my question. Thanks for the heads up.

There are people around who can and will help you with this, just some of them 
would not wish to do so in a public, googled forum. ;-}

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Re: [expert] Re: [SOLVED] Burning bin/cue files

2003-10-21 Thread Peter Watson
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On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 04:48, stefmit wrote:
 Replying to myself ;) - just as I wrote the previous reply, I thought of
 starting to play with the parameters of cdrdao, and - lo and behold -
 the following simplified version of the command line worked! :

 $ /usr/bin/cdrdao write --device 0,0,0 --driver generic-mmc --speed 24
 --eject /home/scm/downloads/my_bin_file.bin

 Left to figure out: how do I make k3b to produce the above? ... though
 it sounds really stupid to even attempt that (i.e. emulating the GUI to
 produce a one-liner)...

 Stef

 On Monday 20 October 2003 08:53 pm, stefmit wrote:
  On Monday 20 October 2003 08:01 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
   On Monday 20 October 2003 08:21 pm, stefmit wrote:
Anybody having ever tried and succeeded in burning bin/cue files?
  
   Yes, repeatedly.  Using K3B amongst others.
 
  ... what others?!? It looks to me that k3b is just a frontend to
  cdrdao, and that looks like being the culprit, as I used the command
  line:
 
  /usr/bin/cdrdao write --device 0,0,0 --speed 24 --overburn -n -v 2
  --eject --remote 31 /home/scm/downloads/my_bin_file.bin
 
  as per the log I sent, with the same effect (i.e. errors).
 
  So - is there any other program that would write bin/cue?
 
I am
getting the following error (I have google-d for it, obviously,
but nothing came out of relevance to my problem, as a possible
answer ... just some similar complaints ... ):
  
   Never seen this error.  You sure that the Cue file is correct for
   this bin and that both are in a directory that is writeable and that
   you have correct permissions.  Also, K3b needs to have a temp
   directory that is writeable as well.
 
  yes, yes and yes :)
 
  Thx,
  Stef

I burn bin/cue files produced with vcdimager, like you I have found that I 
need to specify the driver or the cdrdao command fails, though not with 
the same error message as you. Maybe it is the absence of the driver flag 
which causes the problem

Regards
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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 20 October 2003 09:41 pm, Cy Kurtz wrote:

  C'mon, I'll give you ten to one on the Windows box... ;-)

 no no no wait a minute!

 What happens when Linux becomes as popular as windows? Most people
 writing virii are aiming at windows boxen, because they are more
 numerous. People writing virii want to do as much damage as possible, so
 they are going to go after the most popular OS.

Every time I see this comparison, I wince.  Explain to me how you can compare 
a single OS built by a monolithic entity that controls all of the source code 
and releases only the information that puts them in the best possible light 
with an OS built by literally dozens of different teams, each to their own 
specifications that basically share a common kernel but have different 
directory structures, package managers, peripheral drivers, etc.

As much as I think that Linux will become a bigger target eventually, I do NOT 
think that anyone can generalize and say that one virus that exploits a 
vulnerability on one distribution of Linux will automatically propagate to 
every distribution.  Ever tried to get a package that was built to be 
portable to actually port over to a different distribution?  And they are 
trying to make it portable and can include code specifically designed to do 
so.  Viruses have to be small and compact.

Linux is not the same as Windows and comparisons of this nature only serve to 
make people forget WHY MS products have a tendency to be compromised more 
often and it has a lot to do with the unified environment, the same thing 
that MS is quick to take credit for when it works in their favor, and anxious 
to make people forget when you point out that it also works against them.

I would not go so far as to say that Linux can not be compromised but given 
the age of the system, the fact that a lot more businesses run Linux which 
makes it a more attractive target for ego purposes, and the fact that with 
open source, MS could have been publishing exploits on Linux, if they were 
there, instead of funding dubious analyst research on ROI that nobody pays 
attention to, I feel pretty confident that Linux is much more secure than 
average Windows.

The fact is that it is MUCH easier to write viruses for Linux, (something that 
these journalists often overlook) because of the fact that the source code 
is published so that virus writers can go through line by line and look for 
vulnerabilities.  With Windows, they have to decompile and reverse engineer 
to find weak points that may end up being dead ends.  Given the different 
nature of open source, we should be seeing many more viruses written for 
Linux than for Windows, if only because it is so much easier to do it.

As for social engineering, based on my own experience, I would trust a Linux 
user to do the smart thing well before trusting the average Windows user, but 
hey, that might be just me.

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[expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after rebooting.  
This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered off the 
machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of shutdown.
After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my shell prompt had 
changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII null characters.

I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then the 
file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full of 
zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.

I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of years 
now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to ext3 ??

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Re: [expert] Burning bin/cue files

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 20 October 2003 09:53 pm, stefmit wrote:
 On Monday 20 October 2003 08:01 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
  On Monday 20 October 2003 08:21 pm, stefmit wrote:
   Anybody having ever tried and succeeded in burning bin/cue files?
 
  Yes, repeatedly.  Using K3B amongst others.

 ... what others?!? 

There is a commercial Linux burning application called Gear Pro Linux from 
gearsoftware.com that supports bin/cue.  I have used it in the past but not 
lately.  

 It looks to me that k3b is just a frontend to cdrdao, 
 and that looks like being the culprit, as I used the command line:

Well, just as a test, let's try something else assuming that you have other CD 
burning applications on your machine.

Use bchunk to convert the bin/cue file to an ISO and then you can either mount 
the ISO as a loopback to make sure that it is good or you can burn the ISO 
using another app to make sure that your devices are all set up properly.  If 
you can burn the ISO but not bin/cue, we can begin to look at other 
possibilities for a cause.

If you don't have bchunk installed you can get it here:  http://he.fi/bchunk/

command is :  bchunk *.bin *.cue mybin  which will create a mybin01.iso file.
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Re: [expert] upgrading mandrake's kernel

2003-10-21 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
Thanks for the suggestions; I ended up downloading Mandrake Cooker 2.4.22
from rpmfind.net , and confuguring it to death.After removing all the
modules that I'll never need, the startup time of the machine has halved.
(understandably, Mandrake installs almost everything, and whenever
possible, as modules.)

It's very stable; and runs well..  -turgut

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:57:49 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Another misguided attempt by an MS apologist to deflect with smoke and
 
 mirrors, with a leavening of faulty logic, what is widely known: 

You thought *that* guy was a dildo, check this out:

http://securityfocus.com/columnists/191

My favourite part:

My Dad could teach the community a lesson 

ROTFLMAO!

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Re: [expert] Re: [SOLVED] Burning bin/cue files

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 20 October 2003 11:48 pm, stefmit wrote:
 Replying to myself ;) - just as I wrote the previous reply, I thought of
 starting to play with the parameters of cdrdao, and - lo and behold - the
 following simplified version of the command line worked! :

 $ /usr/bin/cdrdao write --device 0,0,0 --driver generic-mmc --speed 24
 --eject /home/scm/downloads/my_bin_file.bin

 Left to figure out: how do I make k3b to produce the above? ... though it
 sounds really stupid to even attempt that (i.e. emulating the GUI to
 produce a one-liner)...

Sounds like maybe the wrong device driver is configured in K3B.  Also, you can 
turn off the overburn parameter in K3B.

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[expert] Trouble mounting windows drive

2003-10-21 Thread Brian V Bonini
Just installed 9.1 from 9.0 ( I know I'm a little behind) and I can no
longer access my mounted windows drive as a normal user.

# ls -l
total 16
drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 cdrom/
drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 cdrom2/
drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 floppy/
drwxr--r--   41 root root16384 Dec 31  1969 windows/

I can not chmod that directory either, I try and it goes through the
motions like it is fine but does not change the permissions so I can not
access this drive unless I su to root. Not sure what to do...



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[expert] Simply Brilliant

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
Guy on the Toronto LUG list posted this. Sends a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
every time he gets one of those MS worms that are clogging so many
people's servers.

Apparently, a few lusers have already been taken offline 'til they
clean their boxes as a result of this script.

Personally, I don't have much of a prob with this, but I thought it
might be of interest at least to see how it was done.

http://www.wehave.net/spam/

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Re: [expert] Trouble mounting windows drive

2003-10-21 Thread Kwan Lowe

 Just installed 9.1 from 9.0 ( I know I'm a little behind) and I can no
 longer access my mounted windows drive as a normal user.

 # ls -l
 total 16
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root Oct 19 19:25 cdrom/
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root Oct 19 19:25 cdrom2/
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root Oct 19 19:25 floppy/
 drwxr--r--   41 root root16384 Dec 31  1969 windows/

 I can not chmod that directory either, I try and it goes through the
 motions like it is fine but does not change the permissions so I can not
 access this drive unless I su to root. Not sure what to do...

Forgot to post the examples:

//helios/export /mnt/helios_smb   smbfs   credentials=/tmp/pass   0 0

The credentials file will contain something like:
user=dilbert
password=d0gb3rt

You'd of course put the credentials file somewhere safe and with
appropriate permissions.

If you don't want any authentication you'll need to make the share public
in the smb.conf file on the server.

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Re: [expert] Trouble mounting windows drive

2003-10-21 Thread Kwan Lowe

Bleah...Sorry. Ignore that last message. Not enough coffee. Too early. I
was responding to a Samba question in another email and just replied to
the wrong thing (saw Windows in the subject).

Need coffee.
Please.

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[expert] Why can't I get my 802.11b card into monitor mode?

2003-10-21 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I have kernel pcmcia orinoco-0.13e driver patched with the 
orinoco-0.13e-patch.diff to provide monitor mode.  My wlan card is an orinoco 
gold.  The patch appears successful as iwpriv indicates that monitor mode is 
now available:

iwpriv eth0 results:

eth0  Available private ioctl :
  force_reset  (8BE0) : set   0get   0
  card_reset   (8BE1) : set   0get   0
  set_port3(8BE2) : set   1 intget   0
  get_port3(8BE3) : set   0get   1 int
  set_preamble (8BE4) : set   1 intget   0
  get_preamble (8BE5) : set   0get   1 int
  set_ibssport (8BE6) : set   1 intget   0
  get_ibssport (8BE7) : set   0get   1 int
  monitor  (8BE8) : set   2 intget   0
  dump_recs(8BFF) : set   0get   0

Trying to get into monitor mode:

iwconfig eth0 mode monitor
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device eth0 ; Invalid argument.

Yet here I simply cannot get it into monitor mode.  Why?  What is missing 
here?

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Re: [expert] Simply Brilliant

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 09:07 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 Guy on the Toronto LUG list posted this. Sends a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 every time he gets one of those MS worms that are clogging so many
 people's servers.

 Apparently, a few lusers have already been taken offline 'til they
 clean their boxes as a result of this script.

 Personally, I don't have much of a prob with this, but I thought it
 might be of interest at least to see how it was done.

 http://www.wehave.net/spam/

My guess would be it is NOT because of his complaints or the script but 
because ISP's are being swamped by all the traffic from their exploited 
machines and are now figuring out that they need to fix it before it 
bankrupts them or gets their ranges blacklisted by the rest of the net.

Bigpond has reported troubles as well as Telstra from exploited machines on 
their networks, I am only surprised that more of them didn't figure out the 
impact sooner and start closing targeted ports, at least for outgoing 
traffic.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 20 October 2003 11:02 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Carroll,

 Sunday, October 19, 2003, 9:16:16 PM, you wrote:
  Two machines, or dual boot? Run MS Publisher only when she MUST do
  it, and run ONLY that on Win. Email, surf, news, etc, in linux.

 CG Good advice, but isn't it a litle hypocritical for someone who
 CG uses The Bat, a  Windows e-mail client?

 Not from my view. I would DEARLY like to find equals, in linux, for
 all the software I run, and abandon M$ entirely. Problem is, I like
 TheBat better than anything I have seen in linux.

 Much as I dislike M$, I still view the computer as a tool, and will
 stick with the best tools, even if they happen to run under M$. :-(

Rikona:
I was just teasing, and no harm was intended. Luckily, I'm in a position where 
I don't _need_ any MS stuff, and sometimes I like to gloat about it.
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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Joachim Holst


Carroll Grigsby wrote:

CG Good advice, but isn't it a litle hypocritical for someone who
CG uses The Bat, a  Windows e-mail client?
Not from my view. I would DEARLY like to find equals, in linux, for
all the software I run, and abandon M$ entirely. Problem is, I like
TheBat better than anything I have seen in linux.
IIRC, The Bat used to perform quite well under Wine (2-3 years ago). Wine has 
improved now. Try it ;-)

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Re: [expert] Simply Brilliant

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:29:55 -0400
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 My guess would be it is NOT because of his complaints or the script
 but because ISP's are being swamped by all the traffic from their
 exploited machines and are now figuring out that they need to fix it
 before it bankrupts them or gets their ranges blacklisted by the rest
 of the net.

He actually did get direct replies from some of the recipients of his
scripted mails, and was informed of exactly what action they took as a
result, up to and including disconnection.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:02:42 -0700
rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Problem is, I like
 TheBat better than anything I have seen in linux.

How great can an e-mail client be?! That it would actually determine
your use of a particular OS?

That must some kind of e-mail client. ;-)

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Re: [expert] help for cups

2003-10-21 Thread stephlub
Le Lundi 20 Octobre 2003 10:28, stephlub a écrit :
 I know it's not the newbie list but I really need help to have a cups
 server up and running quickly.
 I spent hours with this and can't bypass the problem.
 This is an 'ancient' Mandrake updated to 9.1 running on an an 'ancient',
 and a 'm afraid I had to clean it an install new like other os do if nobody
 can help me :-(

 Pqd worked fine and one time I reach to print a leaf but until I reboot.

 I tried to unistall/reinstall cups (erasing all the cups dir).
 Printerdrake says it can't apply configuration and can't connect server,
 both on the running linux and the update linux with CD.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups start
 Launch CUPS :[  OK  ]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status
 cupsd (pid 8520) running...
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# echo |lp
 lp: error - scheduler not responding!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status
 cupsd stopped

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] useri]# lpadmin -p Printer
 lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# lp
 lp: error - scheduler not responding!

 /var/log/cups/errors.log
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient(0x8084570) 0 NumClients = 0
 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631.
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient: Adding fd 5 to InputSet...
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 POST / HTTP/1.1
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth(0x4d57a008): Authorization
 string = 
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth() 5 username=
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: con-uri = /
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: uri = /...
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location / Limit 7f
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location /admin Limit 7f
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location CUPS_INTERNAL_BROWSE_ACL
 Limit 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: best = /
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: auth = 0, satisfy=0...
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] POST /
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CONTENT_TYPE = application/ipp
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
 con-data_remaining = 141, con-file = 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
 con-data_remaining = 133, con-file = 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
 con-data_remaining = 98, con-file = 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
 con-data_remaining = 61, con-file = 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
 con-data_remaining = 1, con-file = 0
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest(0x4d57a008[5]):
 operation_id = 4002
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] get_printers(0x4d57a008[5], 0)
 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: 5 status_code=1
 d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: Adding fd 5 to
 OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] WriteClient: Removing fd 5 from
 OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
 D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CloseClient() 5

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Re: [expert] Odd message during shutdown..

2003-10-21 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
Many thanks, everyone!
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Re: [expert] reiserfs Corruption...some advice

2003-10-21 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
For the record, rebuild tree finished in 8hrs for a
900GB filesystem. 
All is well, except for one directory structure


_Thanks


--- Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 10:23, Ricardo (Tru64 User)
 wrote:
  --- Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   soapbox
   if you've already backed it up, then go ahead
 and
   try rebuild-tree; what
   have you got to lose? I fully expect you'll have
 to
   format and start
   over, based on my experiences with ReiserFS, but
   since you've got a back
   up that's okay.
  
  
  Awww, it is a 900GB filesystem. Oh well, users,
 this
  FS is out of bounds for at least 24hrs!
  The corruption seemed to be on only one directory
  tree
  
 yeah, so was the last one I saw melt down under
 ReiserFS. If it makes
 you feel any better, rebuild-tree finished in about
 three hours the
 first day, IIRC. It took about the same time the
 next day, maybe longer.
 When it failed again the third day, it took about
 six hours to format an
 ext3 filesystem and restore from tape, which was the
 last time anyone
 had to worry about losing data on that system.
 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -li *6345*
18541 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1772
 Oct 17
  09:43 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.2d
18542 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567
 Oct 17
  09:43 s_01_6345.subrun.ctl.3d
18543 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user 3317856
 Oct 17
  09:43 p_02_6345.subrun.2d
18544 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user37602368
 Oct 17
  09:43 p_02_6345.subrun.3d
  
  AND
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll -i p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d
18546 -rw-r--r--1 stuart user1567
 Oct 17
  09:38 p_02_6345.subrun.ctl.3d
  
  So file with inode 18546 only shows up when listed
  explicitly. I could not rm/mv it either, claims no
  such file or directory, though i was able to cp
 it!!
  Strange!
  
  
   You might want to consider using a
   more stable FS next
   time though.
  
  Which is? (in your opinion, or proved ?)
  
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[expert] Bus collision

2003-10-21 Thread Rodrigo Gonçalves
Hi,

this morning my machine locked up while I was out of home. When I came 
back I noticed the keyboard, mouse  monitor were locked(monitor in 
StandyBy).

But I could ssh the machine without problem and every service was 
running ok(except for the X11 related programs - like VMWare - which 
were locked). I had to kill -9 the X process. But in the end did a 
hard-reset on the machine to get it back.

Looking at /var/log/messages found this interesting messages:

Oct 21 10:13:39 navi kernel: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800: Bus 
collision! SMBus may be locked until next hard
Oct 21 10:13:39 navi kernel: reset. (sorry!)

I have an A7V266-C Asus board with 1GB of RAM(tested with memtest86). My 
/proc/pci looks like this:

PCI devices found:
 Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
   Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] 
(rev 0).
 Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfc00 [0xfdff].
 Bus  0, device   1, function  0:
   PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 
AGP] (rev 0).
 Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=8.
 Bus  0, device  13, function  0:
   Serial controller: 5610 56K FaxModem 56K FaxModem Model 5610 (rev 1).
 IRQ 11.
 I/O at 0xd800 [0xd807].
 Bus  0, device  14, function  0:
   Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 16).
 IRQ 10.
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
 I/O at 0xd400 [0xd4ff].
 Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xed80 [0xed8000ff].
 Bus  0, device  16, function  0:
   Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (#2) (rev 16).
 IRQ 9.
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
 I/O at 0xb400 [0xb4ff].
 Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xed00 [0xedff].
 Bus  0, device  15, function  0:
   Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 8).
 IRQ 5.
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=20.
 I/O at 0xd000 [0xd01f].
 Bus  0, device  15, function  1:
   Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 8).
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.
 I/O at 0xb800 [0xb807].
 Bus  0, device  17, function  0:
   ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge (rev 0).
 Bus  0, device  17, function  1:
   IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC BM IDE (rev 6).
 IRQ 11.  I/O at 0xb000 [0xb00f].
 Bus  0, device  17, function  2:
   USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 35).
 IRQ 9.
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.
 I/O at 0xa800 [0xa81f].
 Bus  0, device  17, function  3:
   USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (#2) (rev 35).
 IRQ 9.
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.
 I/O at 0xa400 [0xa41f].
 Bus  1, device   0, function  0:
   VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 
AGP 8x] (rev 162).
 IRQ 11.
 Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
 Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee00 [0xeeff].
 Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf000 [0xf7ff].
 Master Capable.  Latency=32.

From what I've looked it looks like related with the USB interface(I 
have and APC UPS connected to it). I'm using the 2.4.22 Enterprise Kernel.

Any ideas about what may caused the lock-up?

Tks
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Re: [expert] Trouble mounting windows drive

2003-10-21 Thread Bill Mullen
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Brian V Bonini wrote:

 Just installed 9.1 from 9.0 ( I know I'm a little behind) and I can no
 longer access my mounted windows drive as a normal user.
 
 # ls -l
 total 16
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 cdrom/
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 cdrom2/
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 19 19:25 floppy/
 drwxr--r--   41 root root16384 Dec 31  1969 windows/
 
 I can not chmod that directory either, I try and it goes through the
 motions like it is fine but does not change the permissions so I can not
 access this drive unless I su to root. Not sure what to do...

Trying to chmod the mount point does no good; permissions and ownership on 
FAT32/NTFS partitions are set at mount time, usually from an option in the 
relevant /etc/fstab entry. Append ,umask=0 to the options portion of the 
appropriate line in /etc/fstab (i.e. the portion of the line that is just 
before the  0 0, and already contains some comma-separated options).

HTH!

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Re: [expert] help for cups

2003-10-21 Thread Rolf Pedersen
stephlub wrote:
Le Lundi 20 Octobre 2003 10:28, stephlub a écrit :

I know it's not the newbie list but I really need help to have a cups
server up and running quickly.
I spent hours with this and can't bypass the problem.
This is an 'ancient' Mandrake updated to 9.1 running on an an 'ancient',
and a 'm afraid I had to clean it an install new like other os do if nobody
can help me :-(
Pqd worked fine and one time I reach to print a leaf but until I reboot.

I tried to unistall/reinstall cups (erasing all the cups dir).
Printerdrake says it can't apply configuration and can't connect server,
both on the running linux and the update linux with CD.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups start
Launch CUPS :[  OK  ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status
cupsd (pid 8520) running...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# echo |lp
lp: error - scheduler not responding!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# service cups status
cupsd stopped
[EMAIL PROTECTED] useri]# lpadmin -p Printer
lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
[EMAIL PROTECTED] user]# lp
lp: error - scheduler not responding!
/var/log/cups/errors.log
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient(0x8084570) 0 NumClients = 0
D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631.
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] AcceptClient: Adding fd 5 to InputSet...
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 POST / HTTP/1.1
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth(0x4d57a008): Authorization
string = 
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] decode_auth() 5 username=
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: con-uri = /
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: uri = /...
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location / Limit 7f
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location /admin Limit 7f
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: Location CUPS_INTERNAL_BROWSE_ACL
Limit 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] FindBest: best = /
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] IsAuthorized: auth = 0, satisfy=0...
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] POST /
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CONTENT_TYPE = application/ipp
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
con-data_remaining = 141, con-file = 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
con-data_remaining = 133, con-file = 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
con-data_remaining = 98, con-file = 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
con-data_remaining = 61, con-file = 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5 con-data_encoding = length,
con-data_remaining = 1, con-file = 0
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest(0x4d57a008[5]):
operation_id = 4002
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] get_printers(0x4d57a008[5], 0)
D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: 5 status_code=1
d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ProcessIPPRequest: Adding fd 5 to
OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] WriteClient: Removing fd 5 from
OutputSet... d [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] ReadClient() 5, used=0
D [20/Oct/2003:10:07:13 +0200] CloseClient() 5


Is anyone can help me anymore before I clean my system? :-)

I think you already said you opened port 631 on your firewall? 
Otherwise, I don't know what the problem is but have you looked at the 
docs/forums at http://linuxprinting.org/ ?  Maybe a cc to till, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would get you his help.

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Re: [expert] Kernel Errors every Now and Then

2003-10-21 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Someone replied to this email and suggested that i run
ksymoops. I have accidentally delete his email..so i
dont remember who it was, but basically, I am looking
into whether he or someone else is good at
translating the output.
I thought the lines marked by = were of
interest to ksymoops, but am not able to translate
them.

DEBUG (Oops_format):


EIP; c0165472 __pollwait+22/1ae0   =

eax; cf3b6980 ___strtok+ef14be0/38aab2c0
ecx; f02f97a0 ___strtok+2fe57a00/38aab2c0
edx; cf547e60 ___strtok+f0a60c0/38aab2c0
esi; cf547e60 ___strtok+f0a60c0/38aab2c0
edi; bfffdb7c Before first symbol
ebp; cf64dec4 ___strtok+f1ac124/38aab2c0
esp; cf64deb4 ___strtok+f1ac114/38aab2c0

Trace; c0231532 tty_unregister_driver+24e2/3160
Trace; c022d7e4 tty_hung_up_p+15c4/28f0
Trace; c0165814 __pollwait+3c4/1ae0
Trace; c0165ce4 __pollwait+894/1ae0
Trace; c0208550 mosix_deputy_init_aout_mm+4720/4da0
Trace; c010c860 __read_lock_failed+466c/63cc

Code;  c0165472 __pollwait+22/1ae0
 _EIP:
Code;  c0165472 __pollwait+22/1ae0   =
   0:   8b 4b 04  mov   
0x4(%ebx),%ecx   =
Code;  c0165475 __pollwait+25/1ae0

_Thanks


--- Ricardo (Tru64 User) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Unable to handle
 kernel
 NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0082
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: *pde = 
 
 Usually system hangs for a while, then after some
 minutes, goes back into operation mode. During hang,
 ofcourse, no ps or top or w, anything, so I cant
 really narrow down the problem. 
 
 
 And also below is the kernel warning messages::
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:  printing eip:
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: c0165410
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Oops: 
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: CPU:1
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP:   
 0010:[ext2_update_inode+864/944]Not tainted
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EIP:   
 0010:[c0165410]Not tainted
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: eax: c3b1df2c   ebx:
    ecx: 402b4b78   edx: c3b1df2c
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: esi: e88b07e0   edi:
 007e   ebp: c3b1df00   esp: c3b1def4
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018  
 ss: 0018
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Process sshd (pid:
 29803, stackpage=c3b1d000)
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Stack: 
 e88b07e0 000a c3b1df40 c016572b c3b1df2c
 
 c3b1c000
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:
 0200 c3b1c000 7fff 402b4b78 
 0009
 007e
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:08048000
 08086290 b820 0040 c0165ce4 000a
 c3b1df90
 c3b1df84
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace:   
 [ext2_ioctl+363/688] [ext2_mkdir+228/240]
 [udp_rcv+640/752] [syscall_trace+48/128]
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Call Trace:   
 [c016572b] [c0165ce4] [c0208550] [c010c860]
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel:
 Oct 15 09:53:34 nimbus kernel: Code: 8b 5f 04 8d 77
 08
 8d 76 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 83 eb 18 8b
 ~   
  
 
 Does this give a clue to anyone? Or, can anyone
 offer
 advise into how to proceed to troubleshoot the
 problem?
 
 
 _Thanks much
 Richard
 
 bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/version 
 Linux version 2.4.19-openmosix-7
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2
 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)) #6 SMP Wed Aug 6
 14:34:10 EDT 2003
 
 nimbus@/var/log/kernel$ free
  total   used   free shared 
  
 buffers cached
 Mem:   20638002051148  12652  0 
  
  1748841593856
 -/+ buffers/cache: 2824081781392
 Swap:  2015960  575321958428
 
 
 bus@/var/log/kernel$ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 2
 model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
 stepping: 7
 cpu MHz : 2395.953
 cache size  : 512 KB
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 2
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts
 acpi
 mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 bogomips: 4784.12
 
 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 2
 model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
 stepping: 7
 cpu MHz : 2395.953
 cache size  : 512 KB
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 2
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts
 acpi
 mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
 bogomips: 4784.12


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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:36, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Monday 20 October 2003 11:02 pm, rikona wrote:
  Hello Carroll,
 
  Sunday, October 19, 2003, 9:16:16 PM, you wrote:
   Two machines, or dual boot? Run MS Publisher only when she MUST do
   it, and run ONLY that on Win. Email, surf, news, etc, in linux.
 
  CG Good advice, but isn't it a litle hypocritical for someone who
  CG uses The Bat, a  Windows e-mail client?
 
  Not from my view. I would DEARLY like to find equals, in linux, for
  all the software I run, and abandon M$ entirely. Problem is, I like
  TheBat better than anything I have seen in linux.
 
  Much as I dislike M$, I still view the computer as a tool, and will
  stick with the best tools, even if they happen to run under M$. :-(
 
 Rikona:
 I was just teasing, and no harm was intended. Luckily, I'm in a position where 
 I don't _need_ any MS stuff, and sometimes I like to gloat about it.
 -- cmg
 
...
Hee. I don't let my MS-using cohorts off that easy. The fact is, the
longer I work in this industry, the closer to Stallman my attitude gets.
I'm willing to make sacrifices in order to use free software. Windows is
slower in VMWare than native; I don't care, because I only use the
VMWare image when I absolutely have to. OOo is clunkier than MS Office;
so what? It gets the job done, it's open source and it improves by leaps
and bounds with every version since its release to open source. The Bat!
might be a really really good email client, but I can't even imagine how
it could be enough better than Evo for me to use it.

The flip-side of this attitude is that I get access to apps that blow
their MS counterparts out of the water. Having used Gaim and Trillian
side by side, Trillian is junk, horrible UI. XMMS vs WinAmp? Hello, what
were they thinking at Nullsoft? Evolution next to Outlook is too obvious
for words, even with Evo's rough edges.

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[expert] Where are wireless extensions?

2003-10-21 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I have built my own kernel with ALL wireless modules activated.  I have 
wireless-tools installed.  Where are the kernel wireless extensions?  Surely 
the 2.4.x kernels have wireless extensions in this day and age?  How do I get 
kernel wireless extensions?

praedor
- -- 
Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail 
for a rock.  The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in 
full view if they look the right way.
- --Samuel Adams, 1771
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Re: [expert] Simply Brilliant

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 10:56 am, HaywireMac wrote:

 He actually did get direct replies from some of the recipients of his
 scripted mails, and was informed of exactly what action they took as a
 result, up to and including disconnection.

Must be my cynical nature.  Happy to know that someone actually cares about 
keeping the Internet clean for some reason besides money.

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[expert] Problem with Urpmi/RpmDrake under 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Rob Blomquist
I am not able to access my installation CDs nor any of the usual sites at PLF, 
Texstar, or Club_comm after the upgrade.

How can I fix this problem. I remember it after the 9.0 to 9.1 upgrade, but 
forget how to fix it.

Rob
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Re: [expert] 9.2 usb camera

2003-10-21 Thread Larry Sword
James Sparenberg wrote:

it's a known bug.  If it doesn't bugs.mandrakesoft.com *grin*

James

 

Heck tmb's kernels are there now... Why wait, try it now. If it works

I'll give it a try later..

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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread D. R. Evans
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On 20 Oct 2003 at 10:49, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

 
 I just finished my install and have the exact same problem.
 
 

 
 
  Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and
  none of them works as they stand.

 I've sent emails to the webmaster, Stéphane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the
 webmaster link on Club pages.  You should do the same, detailing your
 experiences.


I sent him an e-mail and he replied, giving me a different URL (although I
notice that the actual web page still hasn't changed). But the URL he gave
me, although it ends up at some different mirrors, still ends up giving
exactly the same error when one actually executes the urpmi.addmedia
command.

There is definitely something very broken somewhere. This was a clean
install of 9.2 on to a brand new system, so it is uncontaminated with any
prior mandrakes, urpmi commands or anything; so I believe that the problem
isn't with the installation here (and in any case, I don't see what I could
be diong wrong -- it's only a cut-and-paste after all).

Has anyone here actually succeeded in performing an addmedia with 9.2 using
any of the URPMI setup scripts on the club site? If so, maybe that person
could e-mail me privately and identify which script/mirror worked, so I can
try that one too.

  Doc

PS This is not a case of the mirrors being too busy. They happily download
a bunch of files, and then all fail at the same place: immediately after
downloading the ...i586/hdlist2.cz file.


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Re: [expert] 9.2 and USB flash memory

2003-10-21 Thread D. R. Evans
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On 20 Oct 2003 at 22:24, James Sparenberg wrote:

 
 Doc,
 
with mine since I disable all desktop Icons I insert then type 
 mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk 
 
 Poof it works.  
 

It must be all that clean living you do. When I do that, the system sits 
and thinks for about a minute and then says you must specify the 
filesystem type.

If I specify the type, then it says that there's no such mount point. (So 
you must have created the /mnt/disk mount point in addition to what you say 
above, right?)

And if I create the mount point, it says that /dev/sda1 does not exist. At 
which point I bury my head in my hands and reboot back into Windows. And in 
Windows, of course, to quote a wise man, Poof it works.

  Doc


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[expert] Bittorrent bandwidth maximization

2003-10-21 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

OK, I've looked at the faqs and I've read the expert list.  I'm still
getting a max of 7.6 K/sec download speed where I should be seeing
between 70 to 90 K/sec.

I fiddled with the download.py file, finally changing it to:

 ('max_upload_rate', 0,
'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

and

 ('max_uploads', 0,
the maximum number of uploads to allow at once.),


This increased my download speed from 2 something to what it is now,
which is 7 to 8 K/sec.  I tried None, 13, but that caused it to bomb
out altogether.  I'm running bittorrent-3.3-2mdk which was pointed at by
the Mandrakeclub site.  I'm not running the gui I'm just running the
ncurses version.  Can somebody point me to a faq I haven't seen or tell
me something I haven't tried to increase download speed.  I've been
downloading for two days now and I'm only at 5.9%.


TIA

LX

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[expert] slightly off topic

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown
Hi,

using the mdk Gtk packages and on a couple of apps I'm trying to get
going I see this error message.
Can someone point me in the right direction please
TIA 
Richard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] glfer-0.3.3]$ ./glfer
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
 
 
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0

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[expert] mdk kernel modules

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown
Hi all 
the kernel src 2.4.22.-10 mdk can any one tell me if the module
svgalib_helper is supplied with the mdk src, as I need it :(

TIA
Richard
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Re: [expert] 9.2 and USB flash memory

2003-10-21 Thread D. R. Evans
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On 21 Oct 2003 at 12:20, Markus Ueberall wrote:

 I mounted the stick myself and put the following in my /etc/fstab (after
 that, an icon called /mnt/usbstick appeared on the desktop the next time I
 used it)--ignore any linebreaks:
 
 none /mnt/usbstick supermount
 dev=/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc,fs=vfat,rw,--,umask=0,iocharset=i
 so8859-15 0 0
 
 Of course, you'll have to enter mkdir /mnt/usbstick; chmod 666
 /mnt/usbstick first. Note the trailing /disc (won't work without it
 here);  /var/log/messages contains:
 

No good here, still can't read the thing.

There's clearly some sort of problem in the logfile:

(this is an old logfile, but I checked and it's no different from a current 
one -- it's just a real pain to transfer the /var/log/messages info on to 
the machine where I am writing this):

Oct 18 09:43:19 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at 
scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Oct 18 09:43:19 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 512000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (262 MB)
Oct 18 09:43:19 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Oct 18 09:43:20 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
Oct 18 09:44:21 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB device not accepting new 
address (error=-71)
Oct 18 09:44:26 localhost kernel: usb-storage: host_reset() requested but 
not implemented
Oct 18 09:44:36 localhost kernel: scsi: device set offline - command error 
recover failed: host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
Oct 18 09:44:36 localhost kernel: SCSI error: host 1 id 0 lun 0 return code 
= 605

That USB device not accepting new address looks problematic to me.

Anyone any idea what it means? Or, more to the point, how to get past that 
point?

  Doc


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Re: [expert] Bittorrent bandwidth maximization

2003-10-21 Thread Steve Cox
On Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:33, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 OK, I've looked at the faqs and I've read the expert list.  I'm still
 getting a max of 7.6 K/sec download speed where I should be seeing
 between 70 to 90 K/sec.

 I fiddled with the download.py file, finally changing it to:

  ('max_upload_rate', 0,
 'maximum kB/s to upload at, 0 means no limit'),

 and

  ('max_uploads', 0,
 the maximum number of uploads to allow at once.),


 This increased my download speed from 2 something to what it is now,
 which is 7 to 8 K/sec.  I tried None, 13, but that caused it to bomb
 out altogether.  I'm running bittorrent-3.3-2mdk which was pointed at by
 the Mandrakeclub site.  I'm not running the gui I'm just running the
 ncurses version.  Can somebody point me to a faq I haven't seen or tell
 me something I haven't tried to increase download speed.  I've been
 downloading for two days now and I'm only at 5.9%.


 TIA

 LX

I had the same problem + ALL adsl in South Africa gets capped at 3gig (up and 
down together) so I would never have got the 3 cds anyway. I just  bommed it 
at 340meg after 48hours and ordered the Powerpak. I am running 9.2rc2 anyway.
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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 4:37 am, rikona wrote:
 Hello Anne,

 Monday, October 20, 2003, 1:19:43 AM, you wrote:

 AW And just to add to the confusion, the last batch came from a
 user AW whose mails say that they are scanned by Panda antivirus.

 Might just be part of the social engineering. With better AV tools,
 this will become more common. Might make some recipients think it
 is OK to open. :-)

I take your point.  The problem is that she is part of a mailing group 
for her job.  The people are trustworth, in that there is no way that 
they would intentionally cause problems, and actually problems from 
the home computers of individuals have rarely caused a problem (I 
think there were 2 cases a couple of years ago).  It's their work 
computers that are virus-ridden, and that is just sickening.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 20 Oct 2003 10:54 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote:
 Jack Coates escribió:
  There are virii that use Java, Javascript, Flash, you name it,
  and then there's the evil code masquerading as something
  innocuous. The issue here is architectural -- the OS bases
  execution decisions on nothing more than the file name suffix,
  then executes code with full privileges to do whatever it wants.
  Mozilla on Windows is better than IE on Windows, but it's still
  building castles in a swamp.

 Well, mozilla doesn't execute any attachment without asking first
 (you can disable the prompt, though, but it's there by default).
 And you can disable plugins (java and flash) and javascript for
 mail. And you can choose to see html mail either as simplified
 (safe) html or plain text (safer).

That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She 
would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are disabled 
for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.  Still they have 
managed to do damage.  At first I thought is was coincidence, but 
since the same files have to be replaced every time it happens I no 
longer believe that.  I'm thankful that at least she is not 
contributing to the spread of viruses, but I can't understand how 
they are doing this damage.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 4:50 am, rikona wrote:

 I mostly discussed privacy, but there is a lot of bad stuff
 possible through the web also. If email attachments can be ruled
 out, could it be spyware or a Trojan rather than a virus?

Kaspersky actually identified the viruses.  Each time they have been 
one of the common-at-the-time ones.

 If she connects directly to the net, it is ESSENTIAL that she have
 a firewall, IMHO. Way too risky without one. Given she uses no M$
 apps, this might be the biggest hole, and the source of her
 problems.

I don't think it is the problem, in this case, given that she is not 
promiscuous in the kind of sites she browses, and that her av 
software was definite about the viruses found.  I'm waiting for her 
to get back tomorrow, as Kaspersky will only talk to me about her 
licensed installation if I can give them sufficient identifiers - 
quite right too, but causing a delay.  Hopefully they will be able to 
tell me how I can improve protection of her mail.

If I get anything useful on that score I'll let you know.

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 2:18 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:04:11 -0400

 yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Before flaming me read my signature.
 
  Sorry to spoil that bashing of the writer, but he makes a valid
  point.

 No he doesn't.

  It is not an OS, it is user who use it. 99.% of windblows
  viruses are based on the social engineering in addition to
  software flow.

 No flame, but that's not the point of the article.

 The author is rebutting another article which points out that
 Windows is quite clearly several times more vulnerable to trivial
 exploits. No one is claiming anything is impregnable.

You know, I really did not see it that way you do.  It seems to me 
that he does not deny that linux, properly configured and used, is a 
great deal more secure.  But how often have we had long threads on 
the newbie list while we patiently try to convince someone that he 
really should not be running as root all the time, even if he is the 
only user on the system?

It seemed to me that the point he was making was that linux will be 
vulnerable, if not as much as windows, if it is used in the same 
sloppy way.  And I agree with him.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:56, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 20 Oct 2003 10:54 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote:
  Jack Coates escribió:
   There are virii that use Java, Javascript, Flash, you name it,
   and then there's the evil code masquerading as something
   innocuous. The issue here is architectural -- the OS bases
   execution decisions on nothing more than the file name suffix,
   then executes code with full privileges to do whatever it wants.
   Mozilla on Windows is better than IE on Windows, but it's still
   building castles in a swamp.
 
  Well, mozilla doesn't execute any attachment without asking first
  (you can disable the prompt, though, but it's there by default).
  And you can disable plugins (java and flash) and javascript for
  mail. And you can choose to see html mail either as simplified
  (safe) html or plain text (safer).
 
 That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She 
 would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are disabled 
 for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.  Still they have 
 managed to do damage.  At first I thought is was coincidence, but 
 since the same files have to be replaced every time it happens I no 
 longer believe that.  I'm thankful that at least she is not 
 contributing to the spread of viruses, but I can't understand how 
 they are doing this damage.
 
 Anne

Try disabling scripting in the section of directory function.  (I'm not
sure but it's called something like Microsoft active scripting)  This is
a system wide function.

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Re: [expert] 9.2 and Evolution

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 01:40, Richard Bown wrote:
 No I did'nt submit a bug report ,I put it in the comments when it was in
 club test on the club test page..
 maybe I should have raise a bug report.
 I prefer when raising a bug report to know someone else has seen the
 effect as well.
 
 The version on Cooker 1.4.4-9 prints OK

Cool,  This should be in it (The bug report system)IMHO.  But the
request did come from them (Mandrake) to get a bug report.  Mainly
because the guy monitoring the problems wants to have something to beat
the developer over the head with *grin*.  

James

 
 
 Richard
 On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:11, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 06:11, Richard Bown wrote:
   I upgraded from 9.1 to 9.2 the same as the vast majority will do.
   If you print from 1.4 on a 9.1 system you get the same stupid font, and
   only able to type  about 4 words  before forcing on to a new line.
   
   Richard
   On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:25, Mike Carter wrote:
I am using it right now and it is working just fine.  BTW this is an
upgrade of 9.2rc2 I am using.
cheers,
Mike

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 18:48, Richard Bown wrote:
 re: evolution
 from my previous mail the version of evolution ver 1.4.4 thats
 distributed is BUST. the version on cooker 1.4.4-9 is OK and needs to be
 moved to 9.2 upgrades ASAP.
 Richard
 still miffed
  
  Richard,
  
 I've talked with some friends at MDK and on this one they've asked me
  to ask you to submit a bug report at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com. 
  It's a self registration situation.  They have also passed on that a bug
  fix is due out Wens (US time) to fix some of the problems in Evolution. 
  What they are asking also is that after you file the bug report (on what
  you said above) please try the new rpm... then report success or failure
  for your problems.
  
  James
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 11:22, D. R. Evans wrote:
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 On 20 Oct 2003 at 10:49, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 
  
  I just finished my install and have the exact same problem.
  
  
 
  
  
   Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and
   none of them works as they stand.
 
  I've sent emails to the webmaster, Stphane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the
  webmaster link on Club pages.  You should do the same, detailing your
  experiences.
 
 
 I sent him an e-mail and he replied, giving me a different URL (although I
 notice that the actual web page still hasn't changed). But the URL he gave
 me, although it ends up at some different mirrors, still ends up giving
 exactly the same error when one actually executes the urpmi.addmedia
 command.
 
 There is definitely something very broken somewhere. This was a clean
 install of 9.2 on to a brand new system, so it is uncontaminated with any
 prior mandrakes, urpmi commands or anything; so I believe that the problem
 isn't with the installation here (and in any case, I don't see what I could
 be diong wrong -- it's only a cut-and-paste after all).
 
 Has anyone here actually succeeded in performing an addmedia with 9.2 using
 any of the URPMI setup scripts on the club site? If so, maybe that person
 could e-mail me privately and identify which script/mirror worked, so I can
 try that one too.
 
   Doc


For the main.

urpmi.addmedia main
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz


For contribs.

urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with
hdllist.cz

For PLF

usrpmi.addmedia plf
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2 with hdlist.cz


For updates

urpmi.addmedia updates
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz

For jpackage

urpmi.addmedia jpackage
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/jpackage/i586
with hdlist.jpackage.cz


This worked/works on my 9.2 

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Re: [expert] slightly off topicSORTED

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown


Need kicking for this one
looks like I messed with the permissions when compiling an app...
works OK with root access.
Richard
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 19:53, Richard Bown wrote:
 Hi,
 
 using the mdk Gtk packages and on a couple of apps I'm trying to get
 going I see this error message.
 Can someone point me in the right direction please
 TIA 
 Richard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] glfer-0.3.3]$ ./glfer
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified
  
 
 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 3:18 am, Dan Jones wrote:
 He did make a couple of valid point, although he doesn't make them
 very well, and they don't really rebut the article he's addressing.
  One, as Linux becomes more popular on the desktop, the temptation
 to dump it down becomes very strong.  I've never used Lindows,
 but I understand that it's default install is quite unsecure and
 even uses root as the default user.  

As I understand it, the original Lindows did, but that was quickly 
withdrawn and replaced by a version that did not.  That does not 
negate your point though.

 (I believe this was mentioned
 in the original article.) This doesn't negate the security
 advantage Linux has over Windows, but it definitely narrows the
 gap.

 Second, patches to fix the vulnerabilities exploited by the recent
 worms have been available for quite awhile.  Normal users don't
 patch their systems.  As Linux becomes more common, the number of
 unsecure systems out there will increase, which means we will see
 an increases in the number of Linux exploits in the wild.  They
 won't be as numerous as Windows exploits, because the *nix
 architecture exposes fewer hooks, but they will come.

I see the blind faith that it can't happen to us as the greatest risk.  
OK, if I'm careful about root usage it's limited in what it can do, 
but destroying data under my home directory would be devastating 
enough, and I'm not convinced that that could not be done.

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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread Rolf Pedersen
D. R. Evans wrote:
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I just finished my install and have the exact same problem.



Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and
none of them works as they stand.
I've sent emails to the webmaster, St?phane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the
webmaster link on Club pages.  You should do the same, detailing your
experiences.


I sent him an e-mail and he replied, giving me a different URL (although I
notice that the actual web page still hasn't changed). But the URL he gave
me, although it ends up at some different mirrors, still ends up giving
exactly the same error when one actually executes the urpmi.addmedia
command.
There is definitely something very broken somewhere. This was a clean
install of 9.2 on to a brand new system, so it is uncontaminated with any
prior mandrakes, urpmi commands or anything; so I believe that the problem
isn't with the installation here (and in any case, I don't see what I could
be diong wrong -- it's only a cut-and-paste after all).
Has anyone here actually succeeded in performing an addmedia with 9.2 using
any of the URPMI setup scripts on the club site? If so, maybe that person
could e-mail me privately and identify which script/mirror worked, so I can
try that one too.
  Doc

PS This is not a case of the mirrors being too busy. They happily download
a bunch of files, and then all fail at the same place: immediately after
downloading the ...i586/hdlist2.cz file.


You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a 
source.  For example, take the url out of the command the script gives 
you, starting with ftp:  and ending with mandrake/ or Mandrake/.  Copy 
and paste that into your browser's address bar and go there.  I just did 
this for the California site and the browser told me it was not 
accepting connections, the other was quite slow to load.  This is a good 
way to check the speed and availability of a server.  Try alternates 
until you find some reliable pattern for predictable usage.

When you are in the mandrake/ or Mandrake/ directory of the server, 
drill down to 9.2/contrib/i586, which is the likely source you would add 
from this script.  You will see all the rpms of this source, which is 
the first argument to urpmi.admedia:  the directory containing the rpms 
you wish to add.  Modify the command the script gives you to include 
this final part of the path to this directory: 
ftp://xx/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 for example.  In 9.2, the 
location of the hdlists appears to have changed to be right in this rpms 
directory.  So, you must also modify that part of the command that gives 
the relative path to the hdlist.  It will now be:  with ./hdlist.cz  If 
you are adding contrib/, you might want to change the name of this 
source from the mirror-name-derived name the script gives you to simply 
contrib.  See man urpmi.addmedia for the syntax explanation.

The Mirrors-list link in the sidebar gives you other options for other 
sources: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors-list 
Those might work out-of-the-box or you might have to verify the paths in 
a browser, as in the above example.  I don't know why the script gives 
these commands but I know others have been able to add a source 
following this sort of strategy of confirming paths: 
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12767forum=11

I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root 
prompt and following that route.

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 2:41 am, Cy Kurtz wrote:
  Take a default install of any Linux distro, and a default install
  of Windows, connect them to the internet with no firewall or any
  antivirus software, and see which one gets compromised 1st.
 
Would you feel better if you were compromised the day after instead of 
the day before?

 no no no wait a minute!

 What happens when Linux becomes as popular as windows? Most people
 writing virii are aiming at windows boxen, because they are more
 numerous. People writing virii want to do as much damage as
 possible, so they are going to go after the most popular OS.

Not entirely true, I think.  People write viruses for windows because 
it is easy to - there are many vulnerabilities in many unpatched 
boxes and visual basic to write in.

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[expert] Creative DAP Jukebox

2003-10-21 Thread S Harker
Hi,

Firstly I'm using Mandrake 9.1 I have all the Dev packages installed.

This is my first post I have a little problem building gnomad2 (a linux
GUI prog for the Creative DAP jukebox.) I cannot build libnjb which is
needed. the make file dumps out when looking for:

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/steve/Downloads/libnjb/src'
gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes   -c -o base.o base.c
base.c:14:25: dev/usb/usb.h: No such file or directory
In file included from base.c:16:
libnjb.h:14:25: dev/usb/usb.h: No such file or directory
In file included from base.c:16:
libnjb.h:134: field `info' has incomplete type
libnjb.h:146: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
make[1]: *** [base.o] Error 1


OK so how can i fix this ? I think I have all the dev stuff installed
but /dev/usb seems to be empty (I'm not sure is existed but I compiled
another comms package for the nomad) 

Please help 

Thanks

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Re: [expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Luca Olivetti
Glenn Burkhardt ha scritto:
I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after rebooting.  
This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered off the 
machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of shutdown.
After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my shell prompt had 
changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII null characters.

I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then the 
file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full of 
zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.

I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of years 
now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to ext3 ??
I've seen this many times (xfs too). Don't know the cause (apart from 
power failure/reset after a crash), but I'd like to.

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Re: [expert] 9.2 usb camera

2003-10-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 20 Oct 2003 7:36 pm, Larry Sword wrote:
 phriedrich:

 The camera is a SiPix StyleCam Deluxe. It's listed but when it
 starts to connect the lockup accrues.

 I just saw in the
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92;

 * /Error Scenario/: *When plugging a USB webcam (some Philips
   webcam's, maybe others), system locks solid*

   Why
   There is a kernel bug when auto-loading the snd-usb-audio
 module. Solution
   Use ThomasBacklund
  
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/ThomasBacklund's
 kernel (packages beginning by kernel-tmb in contrib) until an
 update kernel might contain the fix as well.


 Looks like it's a known problem. Guess ill wait until it's fixed
 in the next kernel release.

Don't be afraid to try a new kernel.  Installing a new kernel, it 
lives alongside the old one.  Nothing is changed - you can go back to 
the old one any time you want.  You just get another boot option.  
Try it, it's easy and safe

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Carroll,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 7:36:19 AM, you wrote:

CG I was just teasing, and no harm was intended.

No offence taken.

CG Luckily, I'm in a position where I don't _need_ any MS stuff, and
CG sometimes I like to gloat about it.

I'm envious. There is software I MUST use and it is only available for
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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Bown

I'm getting the same effect,
but the one thing that occurs to me is is that you used to have to put
the club username and password  in.
this is no longer asked for, I started to get urpmi.addmedia problems
about 8 weeks ago.

Any significance ??

Richard

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 21:22, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 D. R. Evans wrote:
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  On 20 Oct 2003 at 10:49, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
  
  
 I just finished my install and have the exact same problem.
 
 
  
 
 Then all the scripts need to be fixed :-( I've tried most of them, and
 none of them works as they stand.
 
 I've sent emails to the webmaster, St?phane Alexandre aka Fafane @ the
 webmaster link on Club pages.  You should do the same, detailing your
 experiences.
 
  
  
  I sent him an e-mail and he replied, giving me a different URL (although I
  notice that the actual web page still hasn't changed). But the URL he gave
  me, although it ends up at some different mirrors, still ends up giving
  exactly the same error when one actually executes the urpmi.addmedia
  command.
  
  There is definitely something very broken somewhere. This was a clean
  install of 9.2 on to a brand new system, so it is uncontaminated with any
  prior mandrakes, urpmi commands or anything; so I believe that the problem
  isn't with the installation here (and in any case, I don't see what I could
  be diong wrong -- it's only a cut-and-paste after all).
  
  Has anyone here actually succeeded in performing an addmedia with 9.2 using
  any of the URPMI setup scripts on the club site? If so, maybe that person
  could e-mail me privately and identify which script/mirror worked, so I can
  try that one too.
  
Doc
  
  PS This is not a case of the mirrors being too busy. They happily download
  a bunch of files, and then all fail at the same place: immediately after
  downloading the ...i586/hdlist2.cz file.
 
 
 You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a 
 source.  For example, take the url out of the command the script gives 
 you, starting with ftp:  and ending with mandrake/ or Mandrake/.  Copy 
 and paste that into your browser's address bar and go there.  I just did 
 this for the California site and the browser told me it was not 
 accepting connections, the other was quite slow to load.  This is a good 
 way to check the speed and availability of a server.  Try alternates 
 until you find some reliable pattern for predictable usage.
 
 When you are in the mandrake/ or Mandrake/ directory of the server, 
 drill down to 9.2/contrib/i586, which is the likely source you would add 
 from this script.  You will see all the rpms of this source, which is 
 the first argument to urpmi.admedia:  the directory containing the rpms 
 you wish to add.  Modify the command the script gives you to include 
 this final part of the path to this directory: 
 ftp://xx/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 for example.  In 9.2, the 
 location of the hdlists appears to have changed to be right in this rpms 
 directory.  So, you must also modify that part of the command that gives 
 the relative path to the hdlist.  It will now be:  with ./hdlist.cz  If 
 you are adding contrib/, you might want to change the name of this 
 source from the mirror-name-derived name the script gives you to simply 
 contrib.  See man urpmi.addmedia for the syntax explanation.
 
 The Mirrors-list link in the sidebar gives you other options for other 
 sources: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?name=Mirrors-list
 Those might work out-of-the-box or you might have to verify the paths in 
 a browser, as in the above example.  I don't know why the script gives 
 these commands but I know others have been able to add a source 
 following this sort of strategy of confirming paths: 
 http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12767forum=11
 
 I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root 
 prompt and following that route.
 
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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 8:02:15 AM, you wrote:

 Problem is, I like TheBat better than anything I have seen in
 linux.

H How great can an e-mail client be?! That it would actually determine
H your use of a particular OS?

No, it doesn't. The controlling factors are programs that I must use
that only run under Win.

I could transfer a large 'chunk' of my work to linux if I could find a
good replacement for DTsearch, a very good search engine/viewer. I
asked here about it a while back, and nobody knew of a replacement.

H That must some kind of e-mail client. ;-)

It is rather nice. :-) A large part of my attraction is the
security/privacy features, for which it is excellent. For example, if
you're really paranoid, it can be set up to require an iris scan or a
fingerprint ID to read/write every email.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Jack,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 9:11:31 AM, you wrote:

JC I'm willing to make sacrifices in order to use free software.

If your work requires software that only runs on Win, that's a BIG
sacrifice. :-)

JC The Bat! might be a really really good email client, but I can't
JC even imagine how it could be enough better than Evo for me to use
JC it.

Try it, you might like it. :-) [Hides awaiting flaming response. :-)]

JC The flip-side of this attitude is that I get access to apps that
JC blow their MS counterparts out of the water.

One of my key programs is DTsearch, a rather powerful search
engine/viewer. Would you know of a linux program that is (hopefully)
more powerful, or even comparable? I'd like to find one.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Anne,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 12:52:52 PM, you wrote:

AW The problem is that she is part of a mailing group for her job.
AW The people are trustworth, in that there is no way that  they
AW would intentionally cause problems, and actually problems from
AW the home computers of individuals have rarely caused a problem (I
AW think there were 2 cases a couple of years ago).  It's their work
AW computers that are virus-ridden, and that is just sickening.

Look carefully at what is happening. Let's suppose a group of workers
regularly communicate with the same, or different, people at work. The
address books of these people at home will contain many address for
people at work. A 'home' user gets a virus and it is sent out to
others, but it 'spoofs' the work addresses in the book. On quick
examination it would look as though these were sent from 'work'
because of the spoofing, but the virus is on a home computer. In the
M$ world, the address book is NOT your friend, and should be BLANK.

Do we know, from actual virus scans, that the work machines are
virus-ridden? If true, then someone there is NOT doing a good job.

Also, who uses Panda AV? It might be a clue as to who has it.

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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread D. R. Evans
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 You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a 
 source.  

Well one hates to seem like an idiot, but exactly what is the point of 
these scripts if when one does exactly what the page says (cut, paste, 
execute) they fail -- and apparently the only way to find out how to modify 
them is to make one's idiocy public by posting questions here?

I'll try to make the changes you suggest in the rest of your post, but it 
all seems pretty bizarre that Mdk provides this urpmi program and then 
provides scripts that only work after being edited rather than by simply 
following the instructions on the web site.

 
 I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root
 prompt and following that route.
 

Hmmm I can find no reference to a command called drakclub on the club 
download page or in the Definitive Manual. Where (and HOW!) is one 
supposed to find out about this stuff?

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:28:22 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Would you feel better if you were compromised the day after instead of
 
 the day before?

Verry funny... ;-)

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Anne,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 12:56:06 PM, you wrote:

AW That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She
AW would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are
AW disabled  for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.
AW Still they have  managed to do damage.

The more you write, the more it looks as though it is not an email
problem.

AW At first I thought is was coincidence, but  since the same files
AW have to be replaced every time it happens I no  longer believe
AW that.

Is it possible that the real problem has not been removed, and is
still lurking on the machine? She might have multiple problems. It is
not at all unusual in Win computers that are not locked down very
tight.

AW I'm thankful that at least she is not  contributing to the spread
AW of viruses, but I can't understand how  they are doing this
AW damage.

If her address book has entries, don't be too sure. :-))

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:14, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Monday 20 October 2003 09:41 pm, Cy Kurtz wrote:
 
   C'mon, I'll give you ten to one on the Windows box... ;-)
 
  no no no wait a minute!
 
  What happens when Linux becomes as popular as windows? Most people
  writing virii are aiming at windows boxen, because they are more
  numerous. People writing virii want to do as much damage as possible, so
  they are going to go after the most popular OS.
 
 Every time I see this comparison, I wince.  Explain to me how you can compare 
 a single OS built by a monolithic entity that controls all of the source code 
 and releases only the information that puts them in the best possible light 
 with an OS built by literally dozens of different teams, each to their own 
 specifications that basically share a common kernel but have different 
 directory structures, package managers, peripheral drivers, etc.
 
 As much as I think that Linux will become a bigger target eventually, I do NOT 
 think that anyone can generalize and say that one virus that exploits a 
 vulnerability on one distribution of Linux will automatically propagate to 
 every distribution.  Ever tried to get a package that was built to be 
 portable to actually port over to a different distribution?  And they are 
 trying to make it portable and can include code specifically designed to do 
 so.  Viruses have to be small and compact.
 
 Linux is not the same as Windows and comparisons of this nature only serve to 
 make people forget WHY MS products have a tendency to be compromised more 
 often and it has a lot to do with the unified environment, the same thing 
 that MS is quick to take credit for when it works in their favor, and anxious 
 to make people forget when you point out that it also works against them.
 
 I would not go so far as to say that Linux can not be compromised but given 
 the age of the system, the fact that a lot more businesses run Linux which 
 makes it a more attractive target for ego purposes, and the fact that with 
 open source, MS could have been publishing exploits on Linux, if they were 
 there, instead of funding dubious analyst research on ROI that nobody pays 
 attention to, I feel pretty confident that Linux is much more secure than 
 average Windows.
 
 The fact is that it is MUCH easier to write viruses for Linux, (something that 
 these journalists often overlook) because of the fact that the source code 
 is published so that virus writers can go through line by line and look for 
 vulnerabilities.  With Windows, they have to decompile and reverse engineer 
 to find weak points that may end up being dead ends.  Given the different 
 nature of open source, we should be seeing many more viruses written for 
 Linux than for Windows, if only because it is so much easier to do it.
 
 As for social engineering, based on my own experience, I would trust a Linux 
 user to do the smart thing well before trusting the average Windows user, but 
 hey, that might be just me.

I would as well, today, however as more and more of the windows world
enters the world of Unix + the desire to make it as painless as possible
may well increase the chances of something being haywire.  There is
little to stop someone from using betty or 123456 as a pasword. 
Warnings yes.  But nothing tells them why it should be otherwise.  One
of the biggest security holes I've seen of late is the ability to setup
auto login.  Sine 9 out of 10 hacks are inside jobs gee.  

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:08:15 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 It seemed to me that the point he was making was that linux will be 
 vulnerable, if not as much as windows, if it is used in the same 
 sloppy way.  And I agree with him.

I don't doubt that, but his point, to rebut the article on Security
Focus, was faulty. He used what if? arguments to counter a simple and
unarguable point, that Windows is exploited, as you yourself said,
because it is easy to do.

It's like arguing Earth doesn't revolve around the Sun because *some*
astronomers might be using broken telescopes.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Anne,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 1:01:40 PM, you wrote:

AW On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 4:50 am, rikona wrote:

 I mostly discussed privacy, but there is a lot of bad stuff
 possible through the web also. If email attachments can be ruled
 out, could it be spyware or a Trojan rather than a virus?

AW Kaspersky actually identified the viruses.  Each time they have been 
AW one of the common-at-the-time ones.

Kaspersky may not catch spyware or a Trojan. These tend to hang
around, as you are describing, and often hide VERY well.

 If she connects directly to the net, it is ESSENTIAL that she have
 a firewall, IMHO. Way too risky without one. Given she uses no M$
 apps, this might be the biggest hole, and the source of her
 problems.

AW I don't think it is the problem, in this case, given that she is not 
AW promiscuous in the kind of sites she browses, and that her av 
AW software was definite about the viruses found.

If she is directly connected to the net, with no firewall, I would
rate that as a very severe risk. Just being connected is enough. No
email or surfing is required. It is NOT uncommon for a brand new XP
computer to be infected within an hour of being connected to the net.
The more you describe, the more it seems like it may be this kind of
problem.

AW Hopefully they will be able to tell me how I can improve
AW protection of her mail.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 14:09, rikona wrote:
 Hello Jack,
 
 Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 9:11:31 AM, you wrote:
 
 JC I'm willing to make sacrifices in order to use free software.
 
 If your work requires software that only runs on Win, that's a BIG
 sacrifice. :-)
 
 JC The Bat! might be a really really good email client, but I can't
 JC even imagine how it could be enough better than Evo for me to use
 JC it.
 
 Try it, you might like it. :-) [Hides awaiting flaming response. :-)]
 
 JC The flip-side of this attitude is that I get access to apps that
 JC blow their MS counterparts out of the water.
 
 One of my key programs is DTsearch, a rather powerful search
 engine/viewer. Would you know of a linux program that is (hopefully)
 more powerful, or even comparable? I'd like to find one.

not sure what you want to do, but: 
dtsearch makes a version of their engine for Linux. Presumably it isn't
far to a desktop client.
swish-e looks great and is on my to-try list.
ht::dig is kinda lame, but generally works.
between find, locate and grep -r I haven't come up with a need for a
search client for my local system. I can accept that I'm a freak though.
if your data is in a database or can get there, finding or writing a
search interface from your favorite language is really not hard.

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello James,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:25:06 PM, you wrote:

JS as more and more of the windows world enters the world of Unix +
JS the desire to make it as painless as possible may well increase
JS the chances of something being haywire.

I see this as the biggest threat. Especially if
ever-less-computer-literate users demand a better 'user experience.'
This will lead to less default security (interferes with some
operations) and, especially, connect-everything-to-everything designs
(lets the user do anything, from anywhere). The malware writers dream
world. Are we already going down this slippery slope?

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:28, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:57:49 -0600
 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Another misguided attempt by an MS apologist to deflect with smoke and
  
  mirrors, with a leavening of faulty logic, what is widely known: 
 
 You thought *that* guy was a dildo, check this out:
 
 http://securityfocus.com/columnists/191
 
 My favourite part:
 
 My Dad could teach the community a lesson 
 
 ROTFLMAO!

snip.in this case a hacker named Silvio Cesare, who proved with an
alarming degree of success that one can patch a statically compiled
kernel in memory. As time progresses, this will probably evolve into the
standard means of putting a backdoor in a Linux system/snip

this is funny?

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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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We already see the start of this in Lindows.  Root by default.  I also recall 
reading something recently about giving macro-running capability to SO/OO ala 
Office (yeah, I know it has its own macros as it is but my impression was it 
might be an attempt to make the whole experience as much like Office as 
possible).  This means macro viruses for linux if it is done the windoze way.

praedor

On Tuesday 21 October 2003 04:44 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello James,

 Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:25:06 PM, you wrote:

 JS as more and more of the windows world enters the world of Unix +
 JS the desire to make it as painless as possible may well increase
 JS the chances of something being haywire.

 I see this as the biggest threat. Especially if
 ever-less-computer-literate users demand a better 'user experience.'
 This will lead to less default security (interferes with some
 operations) and, especially, connect-everything-to-everything designs
 (lets the user do anything, from anywhere). The malware writers dream
 world. Are we already going down this slippery slope?

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Re: [expert] 9.2 and GIMP ???

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 02:12, Richard Bown wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 04:14, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 15:02, Richard Bown wrote:
   Hi
   this is minor but damn annoying
   
   After trying to print a jpeg from  gimp-1.2.5-6mdk to an Epson C82
   printer using CUPS, instead of a nice piccy of a swiss steam engine I
   got
   1 line of about 20 characters mix of german, greek , math symbols.
   
   on page after page after page.
   Flushed the printer queueno change
   removed printer for config.no change
   disconnected the printer..no change
   power cycled the printer eventually stops
   reconnected the printer to PC. it starts again  !!!
   reboot the PC  its still going
   power down the pc  it stopped
   
   
   reconfigure the printer in CUPs
   and print a test page.working
   Thats the first time I've ever seen that..
   OK it may be a coincidence that 9.2 is involved as the other factor is
   the new kernel 2.4.22
   
   has anyone seen similar  ???
   
   Richard
  
  One question.  How many different drivers did drakprint have for your
  printer.  One option could be to try one of the other ones.  If this
  doesn't work. bugs.mandrakesoft.com is your friend. *grin*
  
  James
  
  
 Just checked there are now only 2 drivers for the Epson C82 
 the one I was using CUPS +GIMP
 and ghostscript + gimp, Ive now changed to the latter, and wait see if
 it happens again.
 This does look like a wayward process, as once the printer is removed
 from the config it should stop , but this does'nt, it just keeps spew
 ing out of the parport... maybe worth trying the printer on the USB
 port.
 I does mean I have to watch whats being printed, cant just send it
 remotely and trust..
 
 else you end up with as much paper as you loaded all with a quarter line
 of garbage on the top of each sheet.
 Whats really strange is that rebooting dos'nt stop it onlt power down..
 
 Richard

Your being caught by the print buffer on the printer.  The job could
well be gone from the computer and totally in the print buffer on the
printer itself.  In such a case nothing you do on the comp will affect
the printer (unless you have a locally mounted printer and the software
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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread rikona
Hello Jack,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:39:18 PM, you wrote:

 One of my key programs is DTsearch, a rather powerful search
 engine/viewer. Would you know of a linux program that is
 (hopefully) more powerful, or even comparable? I'd like to find
 one.

JC not sure what you want to do, but: 
JC dtsearch makes a version of their engine for Linux.

I've talked with them about that. It isn't a program, but just a set
of routines that interfaces with their unique data base structures.

JC Presumably it isn't far to a desktop client.

It's a long way to the program. :-)


JC swish-e looks great and is on my to-try list.

This does look good, and better than any suggestions made when I asked
earlier. Thanks. The part that I missed right away when I tried the
demo was the ability to do proximity searches ((search or find)
[within 25 words of] (script and text)). This is a very powerful
capability that I have come to like a lot. The demos also did not like
complex nested expressions, and did not do them correctly, although
the documentation said it did seem to use regex, which I didn't try.

The other thing I like about DTsearch is the great number of formats
it can index, and then display in an integrated viewer. I can scroll
through 15 different formats, seeing the contents of each one, as fast
as I can press a key. In a very large document, the viewer also shows
each occurrence of the search word(s), and you can scroll through them
from find to find very easily. The integrated viewer is VERY nice.

Is there a way to get the output of swish-e to operate as an
'integrated viewer'?

JC ht::dig is kinda lame, but generally works.

This was suggested earlier. Not a candidate.

JC if your data is in a database or can get there, finding or writing
JC a search interface from your favorite language is really not hard.

Are you suggesting the full DTsearch capabilities are easy to do? If
so, tell me more. :-) It would be a very nice addition to open source
programs, IMHO.

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Re: [expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Glenn Burkhardt wrote:
I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after rebooting.  
This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered off the 
machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of shutdown.
After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my shell prompt had 
changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII null characters.

I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then the 
file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full of 
zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.

I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of years 
now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to ext3 ??

Thanks.
If you do not cleanly shutdown your machine your filesystem will not be 
fully commited to disk... And you will have problems like this.

What version of mandrake? mdk8.1 had a problem with not shuting down 
clean even when using the halt command.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Charlie M.
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October 21, 2003 03:25 pm, rikona wrote:
[..]
 AW That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She
 AW would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are
 AW disabled  for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.
 AW Still they have  managed to do damage.

She wouldn't have to Anne. Read about Gibe at your favourite security 
information source.

Like this one:

http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibef.html

 The more you write, the more it looks as though it is not an email
 problem.

If as I suspect this new wonder worm is a variant of Gibe it's quite capable 
of infecting an entire local area network through shares, instant messengers 
and a few other methods I don't recall at the moment. It doesn't need to use 
the Outlook or any other address book. It is truly a nasty evil rotten piece 
of malware delivered by someone that should be tracked down, shot and p!$$ed 
on. 

Not necessarily in that order.

 AW At first I thought is was coincidence, but  since the same files
 AW have to be replaced every time it happens I no  longer believe
 AW that.

 Is it possible that the real problem has not been removed, and is
 still lurking on the machine? She might have multiple problems. It is
 not at all unusual in Win computers that are not locked down very
 tight.

To have a chance of clearing my friend's network Sunday I had to physically 
disconnect (pulled the cables and shut down the router) all 3 of his machines 
from the network, disconnect and power down the printer, and shut the router 
down completely then not reconnect until everything was back to worm free 
status. It wasn't a fun way to spend the evening.

 AW I'm thankful that at least she is not  contributing to the spread
 AW of viruses, but I can't understand how  they are doing this
 AW damage.

 If her address book has entries, don't be too sure. :-))

As i posted above the address book isn't the only avenue for infection to 
spread. Any unsecured Windows box connected to almost any network with an 
infected machine will be toast in a very short time.sigh

God I hate Windows!

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 15:22, rikona wrote:
 Hello Jack,
...
 
 JC swish-e looks great and is on my to-try list.
 
 This does look good, and better than any suggestions made when I asked
 earlier. Thanks. The part that I missed right away when I tried the
 demo was the ability to do proximity searches ((search or find)
 [within 25 words of] (script and text)). This is a very powerful
 capability that I have come to like a lot. The demos also did not like
 complex nested expressions, and did not do them correctly, although
 the documentation said it did seem to use regex, which I didn't try.
 
 The other thing I like about DTsearch is the great number of formats
 it can index, and then display in an integrated viewer. I can scroll
 through 15 different formats, seeing the contents of each one, as fast
 as I can press a key. In a very large document, the viewer also shows
 each occurrence of the search word(s), and you can scroll through them
 from find to find very easily. The integrated viewer is VERY nice.
 
 Is there a way to get the output of swish-e to operate as an
 'integrated viewer'?
 

I don't know for sure, but I think that Nautilus or Konqueror would fit
the bill there. Both have intense MIME capabilities.

 JC ht::dig is kinda lame, but generally works.
 
 This was suggested earlier. Not a candidate.
 
 JC if your data is in a database or can get there, finding or writing
 JC a search interface from your favorite language is really not hard.
 
 Are you suggesting the full DTsearch capabilities are easy to do? If
 so, tell me more. :-) It would be a very nice addition to open source
 programs, IMHO.
 

that viewer sounds tough, but here's a two function CGI web search
interface that uses MS-SQL as its backend:
sub ParsifySearchString ($) {
my ($input_string) = @_;
my @search_strings;
my $search_string = '';
my $quote_marker = 0;
@search_strings = split (/\s+/, $input_string);
foreach my $string (@search_strings) {
# MS-SQL chokes on these
if ($string =~
/\bis\b|\bof\b|\bbecause\b|\bwas\b|\bmany\b|\btoo\b|\bfor\b|\bwhile\b|\bthe\b|\ba\b|\ban\b|\bthis\b|\bthose\b|\bthese\b|\bthem\b|\bme\b/i)
 {
next;
}
if ($string =~ /\band\b|\bor\b|\bnot\b/i) {
$search_string .= $string. ;
next;
}
if ($string =~ /\/  $quote_marker == 0) {
$search_string .= $string. ;
$quote_marker = 1;
next;
}
if ($string =~ /\/  $quote_marker == 1) {
$search_string .= $string. ;
$quote_marker = 0;
next;
}
if ($quote_marker == 1) {
$search_string .= $string. ;
} else {
$search_string .= \.$string.\ ;
}
}
chop $search_string;
$search_string =~ s/^\s|\\//;
$search_string =~ s/\ \/\ AND \/g;
$search_string =~ s/(\w+\) not (\\w)/$1 AND NOT $2/i;
push(@search_strings, $search_string);
return @search_strings;
}
sub SearchDB ($) {
my ($cgi) = @_;
# get the input query 
my $input_string = $cgi-param('search');
my @search_strings = ParsifySearchString($input_string);
my $search_string = pop(@search_strings);
my $query = SELECT
Rank,ticket_id,subject,who,time_incoming,contents FROM
CONTAINSTABLE(support_emails, *, '$search_string') AS ct JOIN
support_emails AS e ON ct.[KEY] = e.id WHERE Rank  0 ORDER BY
ticket_id;
my $ticket_test = 0;

# Start the web page
print $cgi-header(-type = 'text/html');
print $cgi-start_html(
   -title = Search Results: $search_string,
   -bgcolor = '#ff',
   );
#print h1$search_string/h1;
if (!$search_string) {print BUnable to process query, please
try again./B\n; exit(1);}
# Keep the whole table in output so it can be used from other
pages.
my $output = TABLE BORDER=1 BGCOLOR=\#c0c0c0\\n;
$output .= TRTD ALIGN=\CENTER\H2A
HREF=\http://...\;Support Web Home/A/H2;
$output .= FORM METHOD=POST
ACTION=\/cgi-bin/supportWeb.pl\;
$output .= INPUT TYPE=\hidden\ name=\page\
value=\search\;
$output .= INPUT SIZE=15 name=search value=\\;
$output .= INPUT TYPE=submit value=\Search Tickets\;
$output .= br/form/TD/TR\n;
$output .= TRTD ALIGN=\CENTER\Searched the Support
database for B$search_string/B.BR\n;
# $output .= FONT SIZE=\-3\$query./FONT/TD;
$output .= /TR/TABLEP\nTABLE BORDER=1
BGCOLOR=\#6a8d9c\ CELLPADDING=5 FONT SIZE=\-1\\n;
$output .=
TRTDBTICKET/B/TDTDBSUBJECT/B/TDTDBAUTHOR/B/TDTDBTIME/B/TD/TR\n;

$dbh-do(set textsize 2000);
my $sth = $dbh-prepare($query) or print Unable to prepare
query ($query): .$dbh-errstr;
 

Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread Rolf Pedersen
D. R. Evans wrote:
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You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a 
source.  


Well one hates to seem like an idiot, but exactly what is the point of 
these scripts if when one does exactly what the page says (cut, paste, 
execute) they fail -- and apparently the only way to find out how to modify 
them is to make one's idiocy public by posting questions here?

It used to work; presently, it's broken.

I'll try to make the changes you suggest in the rest of your post, but it 
all seems pretty bizarre that Mdk provides this urpmi program and then 
provides scripts that only work after being edited rather than by simply 
following the instructions on the web site.


Yes, it is not optimal.  Stuff happens.  People try to find solutions 
and report to those who can fix it.  Seems there is a bit of 'sweat 
equity' required to best enjoy this (I daresay, any) distribution of 
software, at the present time.  The good news is that there are 
resources for discovering the efforts you need to make and no limit to 
what you can see of it or do with it.

I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root
prompt and following that route.


Hmmm I can find no reference to a command called drakclub on the club 
download page or in the Definitive Manual. Where (and HOW!) is one 
supposed to find out about this stuff?
Drakclub has been discussed in Mandrake Club since at least March: 
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=568 and there are many more 
references to it to be found by the Search function.  I am also aware of 
it by reading the cooker list and there are probably other sources, such 
as the newsletters sent by email. You can access this function by going 
to Configuration  Other  Discover Custom services in the menu.

Rolf

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Re: [expert] Flash Broken (FYI)

2003-10-21 Thread Dave Seff
I had actually tried to search for the file with rpmdrake. I'll try with
urpmf and see what happens. 


On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 11:29, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 05:17, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Monday 20 October 2003 12:42 am, Dave Seff wrote:
   I noticed that The Flash player from Macromedia.com is broken in 9.2
   because of a missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
  
   I couldn't find it in any package so I symlinked it from
   libstdc++.so.5.0.5. It appears to be working but I am always thought
   symlinking the different versions was a ugly hack.
  
  
  On my machine /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is a symlink to 
  /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so  
  
  so if I do 
  
  $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
  
  I get
  
  libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk
  
  I bet you don't have that package installed.  Just install the libstdc++2.10 
  package and you should be good to go.
  
  Something I have learned by getting familiar with urpmi, is that if I am 
  missing some library file, just be typing
  
  urpmi libfoo6.2.2.so
  
  will install the right package most of the time.
 
 and if it doesn't 
 
 urpmf [file name I need]
 
 will find the package, if it exists.
 
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Re: [expert] Flash Broken (FYI)

2003-10-21 Thread Dave Seff
That worked also. Thanks everyone. 


On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 20:56, Dave Seff wrote:
 I had actually tried to search for the file with rpmdrake. I'll try with
 urpmf and see what happens. 
 
 
 On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 11:29, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 05:17, Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Monday 20 October 2003 12:42 am, Dave Seff wrote:
I noticed that The Flash player from Macromedia.com is broken in 9.2
because of a missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
   
I couldn't find it in any package so I symlinked it from
libstdc++.so.5.0.5. It appears to be working but I am always thought
symlinking the different versions was a ugly hack.
   
   
   On my machine /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is a symlink to 
   /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so  
   
   so if I do 
   
   $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
   
   I get
   
   libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk
   
   I bet you don't have that package installed.  Just install the libstdc++2.10 
   package and you should be good to go.
   
   Something I have learned by getting familiar with urpmi, is that if I am 
   missing some library file, just be typing
   
   urpmi libfoo6.2.2.so
   
   will install the right package most of the time.
  
  and if it doesn't 
  
  urpmf [file name I need]
  
  will find the package, if it exists.
  
  James
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] Shockwave Player for Linux Campaign

2003-10-21 Thread Dave Seff
Done. 

More OEM's and companys should have this. It would be amazing to some
people the responses they would get. Instead most of them just say, The
only people that want this are Windows users with their heads still
buried in the sand. 

 
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 16:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Original Message ---
 From: Sebastien Routier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [expert] Shockwave Player for Linux Campaign
 
 Got this from an other list:
 ---
 One of my dwindling requirements for Windows is that our family
 likes 
 Shockwave games on a few sites and Crossover's plug-in costs money. 
 (Boo!)  I saw a story about this on Newsforge and thought that
 we all 
 can do something about this.
 
 Here's the link:
 http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2003-Feb/0007.html
 
 I'll be signing up.
 ---
 
 I already signed up!! What about you?
 
 
 -- 
 
 bye.
 /Sebast
 
 just added my .02 worth to their email
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-21 Thread Dave Seff
  isn't not supplying the 
 kernel source technically a violation of GPL?  

It probably was not intentional. 




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Re: [expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 06:37 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Glenn Burkhardt wrote:
  I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after
  rebooting. This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered
  off the machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of
  shutdown. After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my
  shell prompt had changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII
  null characters.
 
  I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then
  the file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full
  of zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.
 
  I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of
  years now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to
  ext3 ??
 
  Thanks.

 If you do not cleanly shutdown your machine your filesystem will not be
 fully commited to disk... And you will have problems like this.

 What version of mandrake? mdk8.1 had a problem with not shuting down
 clean even when using the halt command.

Mandrake 9.1 with the updates:
kernel-2.4.21.0.25mdk-1-1mdk
SGI XFS 1.3.0pre2

I checked my system logs, and I definately just hit the power switch instead 
of doing a shutdown.  I wouldn't be surprised if files that were in play 
were corrupted when the power is just turned off, but my .bashrc file hadn't 
been touched in a long time.

In the other cases I've seen over the years, it was with Mandrake 8.1, and the
/usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file, which does get touched each time a user
starts a session.

I did find a reference to a suspiciously similar problem:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fs11.html

but it claims the problem was fixed in XFS version 1.1.  But seeing the file 
filled with zeros makes me wonder.

If the power goes off, I can stand having files that are being written 
trashed, but files with modify times older than 30 seconds have to be there, 
save a hardware failure.

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Re: [expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
Have you only seen this with XFS, or with other filesystems, too?
Will ext3 be more robust for power failures?

gracias...

On Tuesday 21 October 2003 04:03 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote:
 Glenn Burkhardt ha scritto:
  I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after
  rebooting. This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered
  off the machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of
  shutdown. After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my
  shell prompt had changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII
  null characters.
 
  I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then
  the file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full
  of zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.
 
  I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of
  years now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to
  ext3 ??

 I've seen this many times (xfs too). Don't know the cause (apart from
 power failure/reset after a crash), but I'd like to.

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Re: [expert] does the XFS filesystem lose data, or is my disk broken?

2003-10-21 Thread Jack Coates
I'd think so. The journal catches the vast majority of problems, in my
experience.

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:19, Glenn Burkhardt wrote:
 Have you only seen this with XFS, or with other filesystems, too?
 Will ext3 be more robust for power failures?
 
 gracias...
 
 On Tuesday 21 October 2003 04:03 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote:
  Glenn Burkhardt ha scritto:
   I've seen a couple of times that files are filled with zero's after
   rebooting. This time it was my .bashrc file.  I might have just powered
   off the machine, but the this file wasn't open for writing at the time of
   shutdown. After turning the machine on last night, I noticed that my
   shell prompt had changed, and discovered that the file was full of ASCII
   null characters.
  
   I've seen this happen a couple of times before on other machines.  Then
   the file /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc had been similiarly trashed - full
   of zeros.  And, it seems that the file size was larger than usual.
  
   I've been using the XFS filesystem on these machines for a couple of
   years now.  Is this a failure of the disk drive, or should I switch to
   ext3 ??
 
  I've seen this many times (xfs too). Don't know the cause (apart from
  power failure/reset after a crash), but I'd like to.
 
  Bye
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Trouble mounting windows drive

2003-10-21 Thread Richard
el Tue, 21.October.2003 11:29 am, Bill Mullen escribió:
 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Brian V Bonini wrote:
 
  Just installed 9.1 from 9.0 ( I know I'm a little behind) and I can 
no longer access my mounted windows drive as a normal user.
  . . .
  I can not chmod that directory either, I try and it goes through the
  motions like it is fine but does not change the permissions so I can 
not access this drive unless I su to root. Not sure what to do...
 
 Trying to chmod the mount point does no good; permissions and 
ownership on FAT32/NTFS partitions are set at mount time, usually from 
an option in the relevant /etc/fstab entry. Append ,umask=0 to the 
options portion of the appropriate line in /etc/fstab (i.e. the portion 
of the line that is just before the  0 0, and already contains some 
comma-separated options).
 
 HTH!

I fixed my Mdk9.1, with info I read on this list some time back,
as root:  edit the following line in fstab, 
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
to 
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 1 0
then execute:
# /sbin/lilo

Upon reboot it sets the vfat partition read/writeable by users.  I can 
now read and write to the windows partition as user.  No idea if I have 
actually compromised anything.  YMMV.

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[expert] NIC not starting with Mandrake 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Fisher
I have just installed 9.2 onto an IBM ThinkPad 390E laptop with 256Mb ram.

It worked fine with 9.1 but now the NIC, although recognised at intallation does not 
start by itself.

It is a Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem and gets detected fine except after a cold start I 
get a message -
Device eth0 does not seem to be present

Any ideas how I can solve this?

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Re: [expert] can't add club urpmi media

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 14:12, D. R. Evans wrote:
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 On 21 Oct 2003 at 13:22, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 
 
  You will have to modify the script if you want to use it to add a 
  source.  
 
 Well one hates to seem like an idiot, but exactly what is the point of 
 these scripts if when one does exactly what the page says (cut, paste, 
 execute) they fail -- and apparently the only way to find out how to modify 
 them is to make one's idiocy public by posting questions here?


No one thinks you are an idiot.  Trust me on that.
 
 I'll try to make the changes you suggest in the rest of your post, but it 
 all seems pretty bizarre that Mdk provides this urpmi program and then 
 provides scripts that only work after being edited rather than by simply 
 following the instructions on the web site.

And to be honest all the mirrors where changing at the same time we were
downloading the iso's.  
 
  
  I was also able to add a club_comm source by typing drakclub at a root
  prompt and following that route.
  
 
 Hmmm I can find no reference to a command called drakclub on the club 
 download page or in the Definitive Manual. Where (and HOW!) is one 
 supposed to find out about this stuff?
 
  Doc

I've not been able to get this to work since 9.0 I'd forgotten about
this one.

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 09:11, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:36, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Monday 20 October 2003 11:02 pm, rikona wrote:
   Hello Carroll,
  
   Sunday, October 19, 2003, 9:16:16 PM, you wrote:
Two machines, or dual boot? Run MS Publisher only when she MUST do
it, and run ONLY that on Win. Email, surf, news, etc, in linux.
  
   CG Good advice, but isn't it a litle hypocritical for someone who
   CG uses The Bat, a  Windows e-mail client?
  
   Not from my view. I would DEARLY like to find equals, in linux, for
   all the software I run, and abandon M$ entirely. Problem is, I like
   TheBat better than anything I have seen in linux.
  
   Much as I dislike M$, I still view the computer as a tool, and will
   stick with the best tools, even if they happen to run under M$. :-(
  
  Rikona:
  I was just teasing, and no harm was intended. Luckily, I'm in a position where 
  I don't _need_ any MS stuff, and sometimes I like to gloat about it.
  -- cmg
  
 ...
 Hee. I don't let my MS-using cohorts off that easy. The fact is, the
 longer I work in this industry, the closer to Stallman my attitude gets.
 I'm willing to make sacrifices in order to use free software. Windows is
 slower in VMWare than native; 

Faster than native in Win4Lin

 I don't care, because I only use the
 VMWare image when I absolutely have to. OOo is clunkier than MS Office;

ooh ... try 1.1 it's a world better.  It even opens the same day you
click on the icon!

 so what? It gets the job done, it's open source and it improves by leaps
 and bounds with every version since its release to open source. The Bat!
 might be a really really good email client, but I can't even imagine how
 it could be enough better than Evo for me to use it.
 
 The flip-side of this attitude is that I get access to apps that blow
 their MS counterparts out of the water. Having used Gaim and Trillian
 side by side, Trillian is junk, horrible UI. XMMS vs WinAmp? Hello, what
 were they thinking at Nullsoft? Evolution next to Outlook is too obvious
 for words, even with Evo's rough edges.


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Re: [expert] NIC not starting with Mandrake 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Bill
I had this happen with a Winbook Laptop. Does the NIC come after a 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start command is issued? If it does try adding it to 
the end of the rc.local file and it will start up everytime. Worked for me.

On Star Date Wednesday 21 October 2015 08:21 pm, Robert Fisher sent this 
sub-space message. 
 
 I have just installed 9.2 onto an IBM ThinkPad 390E laptop with 256Mb ram.

 It worked fine with 9.1 but now the NIC, although recognised at intallation
 does not start by itself.

 It is a Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem and gets detected fine except after a
 cold start I get a message - Device eth0 does not seem to be present

 Any ideas how I can solve this?

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Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 16:06, Charlie M. wrote:
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 October 21, 2003 03:25 pm, rikona wrote:
 [..]
  AW That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She
  AW would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are
  AW disabled  for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.
  AW Still they have  managed to do damage.
 
 She wouldn't have to Anne. Read about Gibe at your favourite security 
 information source.
 
 Like this one:
 
 http://sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibef.html
 
  The more you write, the more it looks as though it is not an email
  problem.
 
 If as I suspect this new wonder worm is a variant of Gibe it's quite capable 
 of infecting an entire local area network through shares, instant messengers 
 and a few other methods I don't recall at the moment. It doesn't need to use 
 the Outlook or any other address book. It is truly a nasty evil rotten piece 
 of malware delivered by someone that should be tracked down, shot and p!$$ed 
 on. 
 
 Not necessarily in that order.

With the amount of Iced Tea I've been drinking of late the 3rd step is a
no brainer.. *grin*
 
  AW At first I thought is was coincidence, but  since the same files
  AW have to be replaced every time it happens I no  longer believe
  AW that.
 
  Is it possible that the real problem has not been removed, and is
  still lurking on the machine? She might have multiple problems. It is
  not at all unusual in Win computers that are not locked down very
  tight.
 
 To have a chance of clearing my friend's network Sunday I had to physically 
 disconnect (pulled the cables and shut down the router) all 3 of his machines 
 from the network, disconnect and power down the printer, and shut the router 
 down completely then not reconnect until everything was back to worm free 
 status. It wasn't a fun way to spend the evening.
 
  AW I'm thankful that at least she is not  contributing to the spread
  AW of viruses, but I can't understand how  they are doing this
  AW damage.
 
  If her address book has entries, don't be too sure. :-))
 
 As i posted above the address book isn't the only avenue for infection to 
 spread. Any unsecured Windows box connected to almost any network with an 
 infected machine will be toast in a very short time.sigh
 
 God I hate Windows!

Yeah, but the number one reason to keep windows around.  Lots and lots
of work.

James

 
 Regards;
 Charlie
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Re: [expert] Virus?

2003-10-21 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:03:22 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 snip.in this case a hacker named Silvio Cesare, who proved with
 an alarming degree of success that one can patch a statically compiled
 kernel in memory. As time progresses, this will probably evolve into
 the standard means of putting a backdoor in a Linux system/snip

What's funny is this guy actually thinks it's relevant, or that he knows
what he's talking about, hence my reference to the my dad... comment.

If someone can gain root access in order to patch a running kernel, yer
already owned.

This is hype, pure and simple, another attempt to gain notoriety by
pointing out flaws in a kernel that has proved itself beyond question
more secure than the other kernel.

To further claim that Linux needs to go the route of the Trusted
Computing initiative...well, yer right, that's not funny, that's scary.

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