Re: [expert] 3 Hard-drive problems

2001-06-16 Thread fedneg



On Saturday 16 
June 2001 07:23, Jesper Holmberg wrote: Below follow three problems I've 
had since I installed Mdk8. Sorry to post them all in the same message, 
but I don't know whether or not they are related. What I 
did during the installation was to change (all partitions but one) to 
ReiserFS. But I did no repartitioning, just changed the FS from 
Ext2. 1. The harddrive is very slow, compared to before. A 
rough estimate is 3-5 times slower when reading from disk. This 
is also true on fairly small files, which I expected to benefit 
from using ReiserFS. 2. Using hdparm on the drive has no 
perceptible change whatsoever. I have fiddled with all the ususal 
settings to improve my disappointing performance, but with no 
effect. Doesn't hdparm work with Reiserfs? 3. The size 
of one of the partitions is incorrectly estimated by df. df says 
this:  used: 
/dev/hda6 
126M 80M 46M 64% /home but du -sh 
/home says this: 52M /home There seems to be about 30M missing, 
and this has been th case since installing. Could 
someone help me shed some light on these issues? 
TIA Jesper p.s. Here follows my /etc/fstab, if 
useful: /dev/hda8 / reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 
/boot ext2 noatime 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 
/dev/hda6 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount 
fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat 
user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc 
defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
Well, this is what I've done:

Installed MD 7.2 with Reiser (with my motherboaard, 
Soltek SL-75DRV, the MD 8.0
with ext2 the 
XWindows simply don't start after install).
With 7.2 everything works really fine. 
Upgrate to 8.0 and use old kernel.
Here you have MD 8.0, Reiser, and 
UDMA.

(cdrecord do not work with old 
kernels)


Fedneg


[expert] 3 Hard-drive problems

2001-06-15 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Below follow three problems I've had since I installed Mdk8. Sorry to
post them all in the same message, but I don't know whether or not
they are related.

What I did during the installation was to change (all partitions but
one) to ReiserFS. But I did no repartitioning, just changed the FS
from Ext2.

1. The harddrive is very slow, compared to before. A rough estimate is
3-5 times slower when reading from disk. This is also true on fairly
small files, which I expected to benefit from using ReiserFS.

2. Using hdparm on the drive has no perceptible change whatsoever. I
have fiddled with all the ususal settings to improve my disappointing
performance, but with no effect. Doesn't hdparm work with Reiserfs?

3. The size of one of the partitions is incorrectly estimated by df.
df says this:
 used:
/dev/hda6 126M   80M   46M  64% /home

but du -sh /home says this: 52M /home

There seems to be about 30M missing, and this has been th case since
installing.

Could someone help me shed some light on these issues?

TIA

Jesper

p.s. Here follows my /etc/fstab, if useful:

/dev/hda8 / reiserfs defaults 1 1
/dev/hda5 /boot ext2 noatime 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0




Re: [expert] 3 Hard-drive problems

2001-06-15 Thread civileme

On Saturday 16 June 2001 07:23, Jesper Holmberg wrote:
 Below follow three problems I've had since I installed Mdk8.
 Sorry to post them all in the same message, but I don't know
 whether or not they are related.

 What I did during the installation was to change (all
 partitions but one) to ReiserFS. But I did no repartitioning,
 just changed the FS from Ext2.

 1. The harddrive is very slow, compared to before. A rough
 estimate is 3-5 times slower when reading from disk. This is
 also true on fairly small files, which I expected to benefit
 from using ReiserFS.

 2. Using hdparm on the drive has no perceptible change
 whatsoever. I have fiddled with all the ususal settings to
 improve my disappointing performance, but with no effect.
 Doesn't hdparm work with Reiserfs?

 3. The size of one of the partitions is incorrectly estimated
 by df. df says this:
used:
 /dev/hda6 126M   80M   46M  64% /home

 but du -sh /home says this: 52M /home

 There seems to be about 30M missing, and this has been th case
 since installing.

 Could someone help me shed some light on these issues?

 TIA

 Jesper

 p.s. Here follows my /etc/fstab, if useful:

 /dev/hda8 / reiserfs defaults 1 1
 /dev/hda5 /boot ext2 noatime 1 2
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 /dev/hda6 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2
 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat
 user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none
 /proc proc defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

If you are using a VIA chipset, the slow-down is ftom the 
disabling of DMA on the ide bus.  The Bug was admitted just 
before we shipped, and we had no time to refine the crippling to 
the particular bad chip.

Reiserfs is iffy in this latest edition.  It is really affecting 
other parts of the kernel, particularly nfs.  The only good news 
is that the notail partitions seem stable (probably no help for 
the many small files scenario.)

But reiser is not generally faster on many small files.  the 
improved storage efficiency ot the system is bought a cost of 
incredible code complexity.  The notail takes much more storage 
for a host of small files, but will look them up a lot faster, 
because the data tree structure is not complicated by alien 
objects.

Try installing with kernel-linus-2.4.3-2mdk off the install disk 
and booting with that.  Of course, no reiser partitions but it 
should be acceptably fast.

Or wait for MandrakeFreq scheduled to be out soon for a little 
more speed, or possibly a lot, and still with Reiser.  

Civileme