Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
Greg, I also use PuTTy to access my server at work from home. I have resisted upgrading because, frankly, I'm really happy with my current setup. I get no connection errors while using PuTTy even in extended sessions. I can't speak to the cause and effect of ssh-restarter on the error you receive because it aint running in 7.2. But the bottom line seems to be that if ssh-restarter is simply a script that checks to see if sshd is running every 5 minutes, then the overhead of ssh-restarter is negligable. Perhaps you can check the script for a setting that will let you set it to run every 30 minutes instead of every 5 or maybe there is a -- nolog switch. I like the idea of having sshd restarted if for some reason it should die. It's kind of a safety net that insures ssh access will be available when you need it. Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 03:31 pm, David Rankin wrote: Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. As an anal accountant, I just hate it showing up in my logs every 5 minutes, especially when it is always running. Perahps there is a way for it to only make a log entry if it actually has to do something. I wonder also if it has anything to do with some of the connection errors I have been getting since being on 9.1. I tunnel vnc through ssh so I can access my machine from work. I find that 3 or 4 times throughout the day, PuTTy is giving me a connection error. Since I uninstalled sshd-monitor, I have not had this happen. Perhaps somehow the restart blows the connection. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
Greg Meyer grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? It does exactly what the name implies. It checks for a dead ssh daemon, and restarts it. Typically, it never finds anything wrong and so it doesn't do anything. But it is small, and hurts nothing. Plus, if you're travelling and are depending on ssh for your way to login remotely, having the ssh daemon decide to die then when you can't directly do anthing about it is a Bad Thing. Thus, I've always left the ssh-monitor package in and running. Like I said, it has a really small footprint, so I consider it to be cheap insurance. :-) --Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Thursday 03 July 2003 05:40 pm, David Guntner wrote: Greg Meyer grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? It does exactly what the name implies. It checks for a dead ssh daemon, and restarts it. Typically, it never finds anything wrong and so it doesn't do anything. But it is small, and hurts nothing. Plus, if you're travelling and are depending on ssh for your way to login remotely, having the ssh daemon decide to die then when you can't directly do anthing about it is a Bad Thing. Thus, I've always left the ssh-monitor package in and running. Like I said, it has a really small footprint, so I consider it to be cheap insurance. :-) I started having problems with my ssh sessions getting disconnected, so I started looking into this (which is why I asked the question originally) and this is what I have learned. It appears that the ssh-restarter script is supposed to check and see if sshd is running. If it is, the script is supposed to exit, if it is not, it should restart the daemon. I think the sshd-restarter was restarting sshd periodically on me, even though it was running, and cutting off my ssh sessions. Since I have turned it off, I have not had a remote disconnect event. I used to get three to four a day, and in two days of 8+ hour ssh sessions, I have not had one. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] What is sshd-restarter?
I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I asked this question on newbie, and I got no answer, so I'll repost here. Is anybody wiling to enlighten me as to what sshd-restarter does, and why it runs every 5 minutes? -- If you combine the name with the interval it runs at, it should not be to hard to guess ... ;-) But anyways... It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. Regards thomas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:23, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. well, not having ssh running is a real pain on a box you can't access physically :-) Of course if it won't run because an upgrade failed or the config file is wrong, you're screwed no matter what. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:36, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 08:23, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. well, not having ssh running is a real pain on a box you can't access physically :-) Of course if it won't run because an upgrade failed or the config file is wrong, you're screwed no matter what. Yep.. and having it for a remote situation (Like I live in California and I Have a corporate server in Michigan) can be a real plus. Otherwise the only recourse is to have the guys in Michigan reboot the box and hope that ssh restarts. On a box that you are always in front of (Like a laptop) I'd say it's not so needed... but for a remote server. It can be a godsend. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:04 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: It's a script that checks if the ssh daemon is running, and if not... it will restart it.. I guess the question I should have askled is why is it necessary? Is sshd known to stop on it's own? I have removed the sshd-monitor package and have not noticed a problem with my sshd deamon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 03:31 pm, David Rankin wrote: Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. As an anal accountant, I just hate it showing up in my logs every 5 minutes, especially when it is always running. Perahps there is a way for it to only make a log entry if it actually has to do something. I wonder also if it has anything to do with some of the connection errors I have been getting since being on 9.1. I tunnel vnc through ssh so I can access my machine from work. I find that 3 or 4 times throughout the day, PuTTy is giving me a connection error. Since I uninstalled sshd-monitor, I have not had this happen. Perhaps somehow the restart blows the connection. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What is sshd-restarter?
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 13:46, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 02 July 2003 03:31 pm, David Rankin wrote: Greg, At least in 7.2 I have had sshd running for over 400 days without any stops. My guess is that it is just an extra precaution in case of power failure and the event that sshd isn't started in the default run-level. As an anal accountant, I just hate it showing up in my logs every 5 minutes, especially when it is always running. Perahps there is a way for it to only make a log entry if it actually has to do something. I wonder also if it has anything to do with some of the connection errors I have been getting since being on 9.1. I tunnel vnc through ssh so I can access my machine from work. I find that 3 or 4 times throughout the day, PuTTy is giving me a connection error. Since I uninstalled sshd-monitor, I have not had this happen. Perhaps somehow the restart blows the connection. Makes sense. If it's happening every 5 minutes your chances of coming in at just the wrong time are pretty good. There should have been a config file somewhere that would allow for the changing of the time interval. But... if it's gone and it works... don't fix it *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
