Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-10 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Lots of info, yet no answer.  So are you new or not? ;-)
   

Define new.

Please re-read my previous email.  It's obvious that you are not new to 
Linux or to Mandrake. :-)

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Try this.  I don't know if it will work or not.  I don't want to screw
up my configuration by testing it.  I find it is easier to use the
command line to add sources, but you're not me...so...here goes:
   

 

-KDE Menu =Configuration = Packaging = Software Sources Manager
-If there is a sources named updates click on it and click on Remove
to remove it (obvious, I know).
-Click on Add...
-Click on Local files
-Name the source updates
-Browse to the local directory with all of the cooker files.
   

Everything went seemingly swimmingly to this point.

 

-Click OK
   

What about the checkbox for relative path to hdlists? I checked that,
but no matter what I entered in the box, I'd always get an error message
after it rattled the disk a while, either about not finding the hdlist
file it wanted, or trouble parsing it.
 

That should do it.  If it doesn't let me know.
   

For tonight, I'm going to try cli,  if that doesn't work, again via
floppy installation boot update. Maybe tomorrow with more info I can get
it to work.
You need to download the base directory in addition to the RPMS 
directory.  base and RPMS are both in the same cooker directory on 
the server.

Then put ../base/hdlist.cz as the path for the hdlist.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Felix Miata wrote:
   

Surely someone must know. Why does the X tool even exist if it can only
get the job done for the person who wrote it, if even then? I don't mind
using cli at all, but my goal was to figure out the X tool. I've gotten
nowhere with that?
This tool is not meant for cooker use.  It is meant for keeping a
   

So how does it get tested during cooker/beta/rc to ensure that it works
with GA?
I agree with you on this.  I've asked myself the same thing.

released version up-to-date.  It is assumed (possibly incorrectly) that
if you are using a cooker version of Mandrake that you are aware of this
and know how to keep the machine up-to-date.
   

Everyone who does had to get there somehow. Unless I'm missing
something, no one is born knowing how.
My child will. ;-)

Are you new to Linux or Mandrake?  If so, you're diving in pretty deep
   

Define new? My first Linux install was RedHat 5.2. My first Mandrake
install, 7.1. My first Mandrake beta testing, 8.0. My first cooker, last
Friday, after rc1 wouldn't install except as upgrade from 9.1.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, and every version of Linux in the paragraph 
above reads Mandrake Linux 9.1, we both know what new is.

by running a test version of anything Linux.  It may be better to run
something that is ready for those that are experiencing Linux or
Mandrake Linux for the first time.  If not, knock yourself out. :-)
   

I cobbled the box purely for testing Mandrake cooker/beta/rcx. I learned
over the past several Mandrake beta versions that if I want to actually
use Mandrake for normal things, to only use releases, and to experiment
with something else. So, I have this box running OS/2 24/7; a box with
W98, OS/2,  RedHat 9 used mostly for W98; a box with W98, OS/2  RedHat
6.2, used for little more than my EPROM burner; a box with DOS, W2K,
OS/2, Mdk 7.1, Corel 1.1, RedHat 7.3  Mdk 9.1, used mostly for Mdk; and
the new (slow, 200 MHz) box for cooker.
Lots of info, yet no answer.  So are you new or not? ;-)

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 Felix Miata wrote:
 
 What about the checkbox for relative path to hdlists? I checked that,
 but no matter what I entered in the box, I'd always get an error message
 after it rattled the disk a while, either about not finding the hdlist
 file it wanted, or trouble parsing it.

 That should do it.  If it doesn't let me know.

 For tonight, I'm going to try cli,  if that doesn't work, again via
 floppy installation boot update. Maybe tomorrow with more info I can get
 it to work.

 You need to download the base directory in addition to the RPMS
 directory.  base and RPMS are both in the same cooker directory on
 the server.

I rsync'd
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/
 
 Then put ../base/hdlist.cz as the path for the hdlist.

Did that. Didn't work. Also unsuccessfully tried ../base/hdlists and
../base.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Charlie M.
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September 9, 2003 01:09 am, Felix Miata wrote:
whack

 I rsync'd
 ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586
/

  Then put ../base/hdlist.cz as the path for the hdlist.

 Did that. Didn't work. Also unsuccessfully tried ../base/hdlists and
 ../base.

The command I used to first rsync with the same mirror; lifted from 
/root/.bash_history:

rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude alpha/ --exclude amd64/ 
- --exclude ia64/ --exclude others/ --exclude SRPMS --exclude jpackage 
- --exclude ppc/ --exclude unsupported/ ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/ 
/store/Mandrake-devel/

When I say I mirror I actually mean only the relevant parts and I don't 
need any of the excluded stuff. Yet. 

You can make an exclude list to use, rather than individually typing all 
of the directories you don't want but as I wrote, I used this one for 
the first rsync 'cause I'd never done it before.

HTH

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Felix Miata
Charlie M. wrote:
 
 The command I used to first rsync with the same mirror; lifted from
 /root/.bash_history:
 
 rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude alpha/ --exclude amd64/
 - --exclude ia64/ --exclude others/ --exclude SRPMS --exclude jpackage
 - --exclude ppc/ --exclude unsupported/ ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/
 /store/Mandrake-devel/
 
 When I say I mirror I actually mean only the relevant parts and I don't
 need any of the excluded stuff. Yet.
 
 You can make an exclude list to use, rather than individually typing all
 of the directories you don't want but as I wrote, I used this one for
 the first rsync 'cause I'd never done it before.

I use this file:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/rsync-plus/rsync_exclude

and this script:
/usr/bin/rsync -av --delete --exclude-from=rsync_exclude
ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/ /mnt/mandrake/cooker | tee -a
cooker.log
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-09 Thread Charlie M.
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September 9, 2003 01:28 am, Felix Miata wrote:
 Charlie M. wrote:
  The command I used to first rsync with the same mirror; lifted from
  /root/.bash_history:
 
  rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude alpha/ --exclude amd64/
  - --exclude ia64/ --exclude others/ --exclude SRPMS --exclude
  jpackage - --exclude ppc/ --exclude unsupported/
  ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/ /store/Mandrake-devel/
 
  When I say I mirror I actually mean only the relevant parts and I
  don't need any of the excluded stuff. Yet.
 
  You can make an exclude list to use, rather than individually
  typing all of the directories you don't want but as I wrote, I used
  this one for the first rsync 'cause I'd never done it before.

 I use this file:
 http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/rsync-plus/rsync_exclude

 and this script:
 /usr/bin/rsync -av --delete --exclude-from=rsync_exclude
 ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/ /mnt/mandrake/cooker | tee
 -a cooker.log

Hmmm... The rsync exclude looks like what I use now, but I can't tell 
from looking at it whether the script you use pulls the contrib 
directory. Other than the stuff I showed as excluded my 
/store/Mandrake-devel directory locally is identical to what's on 
sunet.se and uninett.no. Cooker and contrib are rsynced in one pass.

The command I used to add the local tree to the software manager 
probably won't help figure this out, but likely won't hurt either. ;)

cooker
urpmi.addmedia localcooker 
file://store/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with 
../base/hdlist.cz

contrib
urpmi.addmedia localcontrib file://store/contrib/i586/ with 
../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

It worked as expected here.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

James Sparenberg wrote:

 

use the urpmi.addmedia command to add a cooker mirror.  Right now
(assuming you installed from CD) the only thing you have is the CD's  in
your urpmi database.  So if your favorite mirror is foo
   

My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.
 

urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
ftp://www.foo.com/pub/Mandrake-devel/Mandrake/RPMS  with
../base/hdlist.cz
   

 

(above all one line and just an example)
   

OK:

urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz
 

urpmi.addmedia --help will give you more
   

I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
following:
The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
already installed all of them.
Why must this be so difficult?

What was the exact command you used to update?

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 Felix Miata wrote:
 
 My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
 hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
 Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.

 OK:

 urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz

 I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
 output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
 to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
 following:

 The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
 available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
 already installed all of them.

 Why must this be so difficult?
 
 What was the exact command you used to update?
 
Exactly what I typed into the post you replied to.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Felix Miata wrote:
   

 

My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.
 

 

OK:
 

 

urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz
 

 

I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
following:
 

 

The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
already installed all of them.
 

 

Why must this be so difficult?
 

 

What was the exact command you used to update?
   

Exactly what I typed into the post you replied to.



There is no update software command that I know of.

The way you would update software using urpmi is with the command:
urpmi -v --auto-select
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 Felix Miata wrote:
 
 Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 Felix Miata wrote:

 My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
 hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
 Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.

 OK:

 urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz

 I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
 output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
 to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
 following:

 The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
 available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
 already installed all of them.

 Why must this be so difficult?

 What was the exact command you used to update?

 Exactly what I typed into the post you replied to.
 
 There is no update software command that I know of.

 The way you would update software using urpmi is with the command:
 urpmi -v --auto-select

After I rsync tonight I'll give that a try. However, I was trying to
figure out how to accomplish the task in X. Had you read above you
should have noticed the word X. Update software is not a CLI
command, it is a menu selection, one of too many now that URPMI in X is
divided into different main menu choices. I used urpmi.addmedia from the
command line because doing the equivalent from X is too obtuse to figure
out.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

Felix Miata wrote:
   

 

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

 

Felix Miata wrote:
   

 

My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.
 

 

OK:
 

 

urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz
 

 

I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
following:
 

 

The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
already installed all of them.
 

 

Why must this be so difficult?
 

 

What was the exact command you used to update?
   

 

Exactly what I typed into the post you replied to.
 

 

There is no update software command that I know of.
   

 

The way you would update software using urpmi is with the command:
urpmi -v --auto-select
   

After I rsync tonight I'll give that a try. However, I was trying to
figure out how to accomplish the task in X. Had you read above you
should have noticed the word X. Update software is not a CLI
command, it is a menu selection, one of too many now that URPMI in X is
divided into different main menu choices. I used urpmi.addmedia from the
command line because doing the equivalent from X is too obtuse to figure
out.
I did read that you were trying to update from within X.  I think, more 
specifically, you may have meant that you were trying to use the GUI 
(Graphical User Interface) to do the update, since, of course, you can 
run a command line from X.

I believe that when you run the Mandrake Update (to which I think you 
were referring) it only uses the media labeled updates.  If there are 
no updates available on that specific source you will get the response 
that everything is already installed.  This would be a correct response 
because all of the updates available on that source are already installed.

If you want to update the machine using all available sources:

-As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi 
knows what is available for updates
-Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by 
update availability.

You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the 
different urpmi sources.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Backlund
Brant Fitzsimmons kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 8. Syyskuuta 
2003 22:04):
[...]
 I believe that when you run the Mandrake Update (to which I think you
 were referring) it only uses the media labeled updates.  If there are
 no updates available on that specific source you will get the response
 that everything is already installed.  This would be a correct response
 because all of the updates available on that source are already installed.

 If you want to update the machine using all available sources:

 -As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi
 knows what is available for updates
 -Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by
 update availability.

 You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the
 different urpmi sources.

Or do just:
# urpmi.update -a 
# urpmi --auto-select

and urpmi will install everything that needs to be upgraded,
except the kernels...

last do an:
#urpmi kernel

and you will get a list with question wich kernel you want to install...


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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 I did read that you were trying to update from within X.  I think, more
 specifically, you may have meant that you were trying to use the GUI
 (Graphical User Interface) to do the update, since, of course, you can
 run a command line from X.
 
 I believe that when you run the Mandrake Update (to which I think you
 were referring) it only uses the media labeled updates.  If there are
 no updates available on that specific source you will get the response
 that everything is already installed.  This would be a correct response
 because all of the updates available on that source are already installed.
 
 If you want to update the machine using all available sources:
 
 -As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi
 knows what is available for updates
 -Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by
 update availability.
 
 You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the
 different urpmi sources.

Until I understand how to handle a single source, I don't want multiple
sources. I have one and only one source for this machine, my rsync
mirror of the sunet.se cooker mirror. What I'm actually trying to do is
figure out the awful X interface for package management. I used the one
cli command urpmi.addmedia as a shortcut, since I couldn't even figure
how to get the X interface to do a single useful update thing. How to I
use the X interface to make the original source equal to the updates
source?
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Thomas Backlund wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 8. Syyskuuta 
2003 22:04):
[...]
 

I believe that when you run the Mandrake Update (to which I think you
were referring) it only uses the media labeled updates.  If there are
no updates available on that specific source you will get the response
that everything is already installed.  This would be a correct response
because all of the updates available on that source are already installed.
If you want to update the machine using all available sources:

-As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi
knows what is available for updates
-Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by
update availability.
You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the
different urpmi sources.
   

Or do just:
# urpmi.update -a 
# urpmi --auto-select

and urpmi will install everything that needs to be upgraded,
except the kernels...
last do an:
#urpmi kernel
and you will get a list with question wich kernel you want to install...

I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel), 
but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.

I think...

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel), 
 but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.

I strongly suspect that when the OP did the urpmi.addmedia command to add
his Cooker source, he did not use the --update option, which denotes
that source as one that the GUI update tool will consider.

AIUI, while urpmi --auto-select will draw upon all sources (as will the
regular GUI installer app), the GUI /update/ tool will only look at media
specifically marked as update sources. As these are separate collections 
in released distros, only in Cooker is the main source also an update 
source. I could well be wrong, but I think that's what's going on here.

HTH!

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Bill Mullen wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
  I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel),
  but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.
 
 I strongly suspect that when the OP did the urpmi.addmedia command to add
 his Cooker source, he did not use the --update option, which denotes
 that source as one that the GUI update tool will consider.

I did what James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz. See my
post of Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:47:57 -0400.
 
 AIUI, while urpmi --auto-select will draw upon all sources (as will the
 regular GUI installer app), the GUI /update/ tool will only look at media
 specifically marked as update sources. As these are separate collections
 in released distros, only in Cooker is the main source also an update
 source. I could well be wrong, but I think that's what's going on here.

Surely someone must know. Why does the X tool even exist if it can only
get the job done for the person who wrote it, if even then? I don't mind
using cli at all, but my goal was to figure out the X tool. I've gotten
nowhere with that.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 15:16, Felix Miata wrote:
 Bill Mullen wrote:
  
  On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  
   I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel),
   but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.
  
  I strongly suspect that when the OP did the urpmi.addmedia command to add
  his Cooker source, he did not use the --update option, which denotes
  that source as one that the GUI update tool will consider.
 
 I did what James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
 file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz. See my
 post of Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:47:57 -0400.
  
  AIUI, while urpmi --auto-select will draw upon all sources (as will the
  regular GUI installer app), the GUI /update/ tool will only look at media
  specifically marked as update sources. As these are separate collections
  in released distros, only in Cooker is the main source also an update
  source. I could well be wrong, but I think that's what's going on here.
 
 Surely someone must know. Why does the X tool even exist if it can only
 get the job done for the person who wrote it, if even then? I don't mind
 using cli at all, but my goal was to figure out the X tool. I've gotten
 nowhere with that.

One point I noted during the run-up to 9.1  This tool worked fine once
it was a real distro.  But as long as it's still a testing tool the
hooks for the gui aren't there..  Or rather they are there but the are
setup to work with the release that will come, rather than the test
model that is.  The command line on the other hand is mutable and can
work in any situation.  

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

I did read that you were trying to update from within X.  I think, more
specifically, you may have meant that you were trying to use the GUI
(Graphical User Interface) to do the update, since, of course, you can
run a command line from X.
   

 

I believe that when you run the Mandrake Update (to which I think you
were referring) it only uses the media labeled updates.  If there are
no updates available on that specific source you will get the response
that everything is already installed.  This would be a correct response
because all of the updates available on that source are already installed.
   

 

If you want to update the machine using all available sources:
   

 

-As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi
knows what is available for updates
-Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by
update availability.
   

 

You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the
different urpmi sources.
   

Until I understand how to handle a single source, I don't want multiple
sources. I have one and only one source for this machine, my rsync
mirror of the sunet.se cooker mirror. What I'm actually trying to do is
figure out the awful X interface for package management. I used the one
cli command urpmi.addmedia as a shortcut, since I couldn't even figure
how to get the X interface to do a single useful update thing. How to I
use the X interface to make the original source equal to the updates
source?
Try this.  I don't know if it will work or not.  I don't want to screw 
up my configuration by testing it.  I find it is easier to use the 
command line to add sources, but you're not me...so...here goes:

-KDE Menu =Configuration = Packaging = Software Sources Manager
-If there is a sources named updates click on it and click on Remove 
to remove it (obvious, I know).
-Click on Add...
-Click on Local files
-Name the source updates
-Browse to the local directory with all of the cooker files.
-Click OK

That should do it.  If it doesn't let me know.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Felix Miata wrote:

Bill Mullen wrote:

 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
   

 

I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel),
but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.
 

 

I strongly suspect that when the OP did the urpmi.addmedia command to add
his Cooker source, he did not use the --update option, which denotes
that source as one that the GUI update tool will consider.
   

I did what James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz. See my
post of Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:47:57 -0400.
 

AIUI, while urpmi --auto-select will draw upon all sources (as will the
regular GUI installer app), the GUI /update/ tool will only look at media
specifically marked as update sources. As these are separate collections
in released distros, only in Cooker is the main source also an update
source. I could well be wrong, but I think that's what's going on here.
   

Surely someone must know. Why does the X tool even exist if it can only
get the job done for the person who wrote it, if even then? I don't mind
using cli at all, but my goal was to figure out the X tool. I've gotten
nowhere with that.
This tool is not meant for cooker use.  It is meant for keeping a 
released version up-to-date.  It is assumed (possibly incorrectly) that 
if you are using a cooker version of Mandrake that you are aware of this 
and know how to keep the machine up-to-date.

Are you new to Linux or Mandrake?  If so, you're diving in pretty deep 
by running a test version of anything Linux.  It may be better to run 
something that is ready for those that are experiencing Linux or 
Mandrake Linux for the first time.  If not, knock yourself out. :-)

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Felix Miata wrote:

 Bill Mullen wrote:
  
  On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  
   I had actually suggested that earlier (everything except the kernel),
   but I believe he wanted a way to do the actual update using a GUI.
  
  I strongly suspect that when the OP did the urpmi.addmedia command to add
  his Cooker source, he did not use the --update option, which denotes
  that source as one that the GUI update tool will consider.
 
 I did what James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
 file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz. See my
 post of Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:47:57 -0400.

Then I was correct. Try instead:

urpmi.removemedia cooker-updates

And then (all one line, of course):

urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates
file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz

And see if the GUI update tool now works as you'd expect it to. The key, 
as I stated, is using the --update option on that command line.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 Try this.  I don't know if it will work or not.  I don't want to screw
 up my configuration by testing it.  I find it is easier to use the
 command line to add sources, but you're not me...so...here goes:
 
 -KDE Menu =Configuration = Packaging = Software Sources Manager
 -If there is a sources named updates click on it and click on Remove
 to remove it (obvious, I know).
 -Click on Add...
 -Click on Local files
 -Name the source updates
 -Browse to the local directory with all of the cooker files.

Everything went seemingly swimmingly to this point.

 -Click OK

What about the checkbox for relative path to hdlists? I checked that,
but no matter what I entered in the box, I'd always get an error message
after it rattled the disk a while, either about not finding the hdlist
file it wanted, or trouble parsing it.

 That should do it.  If it doesn't let me know.

For tonight, I'm going to try cli,  if that doesn't work, again via
floppy installation boot update. Maybe tomorrow with more info I can get
it to work.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 
 Felix Miata wrote:
 
 Surely someone must know. Why does the X tool even exist if it can only
 get the job done for the person who wrote it, if even then? I don't mind
 using cli at all, but my goal was to figure out the X tool. I've gotten
 nowhere with that.
 
 This tool is not meant for cooker use.  It is meant for keeping a

So how does it get tested during cooker/beta/rc to ensure that it works
with GA?

 released version up-to-date.  It is assumed (possibly incorrectly) that
 if you are using a cooker version of Mandrake that you are aware of this
 and know how to keep the machine up-to-date.

Everyone who does had to get there somehow. Unless I'm missing
something, no one is born knowing how.
 
 Are you new to Linux or Mandrake?  If so, you're diving in pretty deep

Define new? My first Linux install was RedHat 5.2. My first Mandrake
install, 7.1. My first Mandrake beta testing, 8.0. My first cooker, last
Friday, after rc1 wouldn't install except as upgrade from 9.1.

 by running a test version of anything Linux.  It may be better to run
 something that is ready for those that are experiencing Linux or
 Mandrake Linux for the first time.  If not, knock yourself out. :-)

I cobbled the box purely for testing Mandrake cooker/beta/rcx. I learned
over the past several Mandrake beta versions that if I want to actually
use Mandrake for normal things, to only use releases, and to experiment
with something else. So, I have this box running OS/2 24/7; a box with
W98, OS/2,  RedHat 9 used mostly for W98; a box with W98, OS/2  RedHat
6.2, used for little more than my EPROM burner; a box with DOS, W2K,
OS/2, Mdk 7.1, Corel 1.1, RedHat 7.3  Mdk 9.1, used mostly for Mdk; and
the new (slow, 200 MHz) box for cooker.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Bill Mullen wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Felix Miata wrote:
 
  I did what James Sparenberg wrote: urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
  file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz. See my
  post of Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:47:57 -0400.
 
 Then I was correct. Try instead:
 
 urpmi.removemedia cooker-updates
 
 And then (all one line, of course):
 
 urpmi.addmedia --update cooker-updates
 file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 And see if the GUI update tool now works as you'd expect it to. The key,
 as I stated, is using the --update option on that command line.

The addmedia function seemed to work, but the GUI found nothing to
update. :-(
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
Thomas Backlund wrote:
 
 Brant Fitzsimmons kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Maanantai 8. Syyskuuta

  -As root run urpmi.update -a on the command line to make sure urpmi
  knows what is available for updates
  -Launch Install Software from the menu and select All packages, by
  update availability.

  You will then get a list of updates that are available from all of the
  different urpmi sources.
 
 Or do just:
 # urpmi.update -a
 # urpmi --auto-select
 
 and urpmi will install everything that needs to be upgraded,
 except the kernels...

Seemed to go OK, but ended with 10 packages missing/not installed
message, ending with the urpmi package, even though my rsync mirror has
one dated 8 Sept.
 
 last do an:
 #urpmi kernel
 and you will get a list with question wich kernel you want to install...

All it gave me was a nothing to update, but since the kernel wasn't
updated since my last update, this is to be expected. ;-)
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-08 Thread Charlie M.
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September 8, 2003 10:44 pm, Felix Miata wrote:

 The addmedia function seemed to work, but the GUI found nothing to
 update. :-(

Hi Felix;

If I want to update my cooker install from one of the the hard drives I 
add a source called update_source, in addition to the links to main 
and contrib on the mirrors. That's what the Mandrake Update tool calls 
it when you first use it. But that seems (as you and others have said) 
only to work with final releases. To use it during development you'd 
have to have some way to identify the updates and save or link them 
through an actual Updates directory as you find on the mirrors after 
a release has gone final.

In cooker I use a slightly different function; when I choose to use the 
GUI to update packages, whether from remote sources or from the 
development tree mirror on the system, I always just go to the (in KDE) 
ConfigurationPackagingInstall Software then right click the left pane 
and select Update Media. Then choose the last category All 
packages...: and using the pull down select by update availability. 
That will give you two expandable categories; Addable and 
Upgradable. I'm sure you know which you're looking for, right? g

But I'd still prefer to use the command line even after final release. 
:-)

Regards;
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-07 Thread Felix Miata
James Sparenberg wrote:
 
 use the urpmi.addmedia command to add a cooker mirror.  Right now
 (assuming you installed from CD) the only thing you have is the CD's  in
 your urpmi database.  So if your favorite mirror is foo

My favorite mirror is my rsync: /mnt/mandrake/cooker, updated about an
hour ago, after having updated prior to the original cooker install on
Friday, and again before running update from floppy boot on Saturday.
 
 urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
 ftp://www.foo.com/pub/Mandrake-devel/Mandrake/RPMS  with
 ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 (above all one line and just an example)

OK:

urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates file://mnt/mandrake/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 urpmi.addmedia --help will give you more

I found what appeared to be correct syntax in man urpmi.addmedia. I got
output messages that appeared to confirm it to be doing what I needed it
to do. However, when I went to X to run update software, I got the
following:

The list of updates is void. This means that either there is no
available update for the packages installed on your computer, or you
already installed all of them.


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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 05 September 2003 08:15 pm, Greg Sarsons wrote:
 I'm drawing a complete blank at figuring out how to update the rc1
 installation with all the fixes that have taken place.  What is the
 command that I should use.
 
The Cooker HOWTO has this info.

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Keeping_Your_Cooker_Installation
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-06 Thread Ingo Bauer
Thank you Charlie;

This works like a charm on my system .:)

Ingo

Charlie M. wrote:

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whack
 

tks ... had my line syntax off
   

You still have the address wrong. That mirror for 9.1 will do you no 
good for cooker which is what you need to connect to for new packages 
for the release candidates.

Try this instead:

urpmi.addmedia cooker 
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
with ../base/hdlist.cz
and;
urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586 
with ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

and if you want the really good stuff g:

urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/cooker with hdlist.cz

lynx -source http://plf.zarb.org/plf.asc | gpg --import

That last would require you to have lynx installed, but since Cookers 
spend so much time at the command line why wouldn't you? I don't know 
if it's actually necessary now anyway since the latest incarnations of 
the 'Drake tools seem to handle signatures in packages a lot better 
than before.

Have fun!
 

urpmi.addmedia main
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/M
andrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
   

Regards;
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-06 Thread Charlie M.
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September 6, 2003 03:48 pm, Ingo Bauer wrote:
 Thank you Charlie;
snip

You're very welcome.

 This works like a charm on my system .:)

 Ingo

My pleasure. Enjoy yourself. :-)

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:15:16 -0600
Greg Sarsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I'm drawing a complete blank at figuring out how to update the rc1
 installation with all the fixes that have taken place.  What is the
 command that I should use.

IIRC, urpmi --updates --auto-select

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread Greg Sarsons
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 18:33, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:15:16 -0600
 Greg Sarsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  I'm drawing a complete blank at figuring out how to update the rc1
  installation with all the fixes that have taken place.  What is the
  command that I should use.
 
 IIRC, urpmi --updates --auto-select

okay but I can't add a new location for it to check and update from

keeps coming back with Everything already installed ... this is not true

not sure where it is dieing when trying to add the new media



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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:11:58 -0600
Greg Sarsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 okay but I can't add a new location for it to check and update from

Tom Brinkman's the expert on this but I believe what you would want to
do is add cooker sources here:

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

Have you checked the Cooker list? That might be a good place to get a
definite answer.

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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread Greg Sarsons
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 19:28, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:11:58 -0600
 Greg Sarsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  okay but I can't add a new location for it to check and update from
 
 Tom Brinkman's the expert on this but I believe what you would want to
 do is add cooker sources here:
 
 http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
 
 Have you checked the Cooker list? That might be a good place to get a
 definite answer.

tks ... had my line syntax off

urpmi.addmedia main
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz


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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread Charlie M.
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September 5, 2003 07:40 pm, Greg Sarsons wrote:
whack
 tks ... had my line syntax off

You still have the address wrong. That mirror for 9.1 will do you no 
good for cooker which is what you need to connect to for new packages 
for the release candidates.

Try this instead:

urpmi.addmedia cooker 
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
with ../base/hdlist.cz
and;
urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586 
with ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz

and if you want the really good stuff g:

urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/cooker with hdlist.cz

lynx -source http://plf.zarb.org/plf.asc | gpg --import

That last would require you to have lynx installed, but since Cookers 
spend so much time at the command line why wouldn't you? I don't know 
if it's actually necessary now anyway since the latest incarnations of 
the 'Drake tools seem to handle signatures in packages a lot better 
than before.

Have fun!

 urpmi.addmedia main
 ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/M
andrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz

Regards;
Charlie
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19:47:44 up 5:28, 1 user, load average: 0.63, 0.37, 0.34
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over the other.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread Greg Sarsons
I did change that ... 

On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 19:55, Charlie M. wrote:
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 September 5, 2003 07:40 pm, Greg Sarsons wrote:
 whack
  tks ... had my line syntax off
 
 You still have the address wrong. That mirror for 9.1 will do you no 
 good for cooker which is what you need to connect to for new packages 
 for the release candidates.
 
 Try this instead:
 
 urpmi.addmedia cooker 
 ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz
 and;
 urpmi.addmedia contrib 
 ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/i586
 with ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
 
 and if you want the really good stuff g:
 
 urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/cooker with hdlist.cz
 
 lynx -source http://plf.zarb.org/plf.asc | gpg --import
 
 That last would require you to have lynx installed, but since Cookers 
 spend so much time at the command line why wouldn't you? I don't know 
 if it's actually necessary now anyway since the latest incarnations of 
 the 'Drake tools seem to handle signatures in packages a lot better 
 than before.
 
 Have fun!
 
  urpmi.addmedia main
  ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/M
 andrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 Regards;
 Charlie
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 Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
 Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-5mdk
 19:47:44 up 5:28, 1 user, load average: 0.63, 0.37, 0.34
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 over the other.
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Re: [expert] keeping 9.2 rc1 current

2003-09-05 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 18:11, Greg Sarsons wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 18:33, HaywireMac wrote:
  On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:15:16 -0600
  Greg Sarsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  
   I'm drawing a complete blank at figuring out how to update the rc1
   installation with all the fixes that have taken place.  What is the
   command that I should use.
  
  IIRC, urpmi --updates --auto-select
 
 okay but I can't add a new location for it to check and update from
 
 keeps coming back with Everything already installed ... this is not true
 
 not sure where it is dieing when trying to add the new media

use the urpmi.addmedia command to add a cooker mirror.  Right now
(assuming you installed from CD) the only thing you have is the CD's  in
your urpmi database.  So if your favorite mirror is foo 


urpmi.addmedia cooker-updates
ftp://www.foo.com/pub/Mandrake-devel/Mandrake/RPMS  with
../base/hdlist.cz  

(above all one line and just an example)

urpmi.addmedia --help will give you more

James

 
 
 
 
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