Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:04:51 +0530 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Dell 1100 dual boot 9.1/win2k and VMware win2k all working fine. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi graced me with: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000 (circa 2000), Celeron 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound, Actiontec Mini PCI 56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file system (except for /boot) and it seems to work well for me. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
Mine is a Dell Inspiron 8100, NVidia Graphics, Pentium III 1ghz, 256 MB RAm.30Gb Harddrive (10NTFS, 10FAT32 shared writing btwn the two OS's, 10 Reiserfs, including root+boot)(Hitachi DK23DA), 3Com Mini PCI adapter, ACPI, LG DVD-ROm and TEAC CD-W216E, Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad mice (works out of the box) , ESS Maestro sound Works great! --- Paul M. Bucalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:53 pm, L.V.Gandhi graced me with: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? I have MDK 9.1 running on a Dell Inspiron 4000 (circa 2000), Celeron 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 20 Gig HD, ESS Maestro Sound, Actiontec Mini PCI 56K Modem, XGA screen. I have ReiserFS for a file system (except for /boot) and it seems to work well for me. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] linux complient notebooks
I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- As of this writing, Centrino wireless does not work with Linux. There were some postings before Centrino was released that Linux would, in fact, be supported. This was entirely marketing hype because there's no working drivers available (I just spent days trying on a Compaq X1000). Also, the power level indicator does not work correctly with RedHat 9 or Mandrake 9.1 on the above X1000. I've tried rebuilding with various patches found throughout the web but it was unreliable. I personally won't buy a Centrino notebook until Intel supports Linux fully. I don't have many other newer notebooks but here's my experience with the older ones that I own: Toshiba Satellite 4090XDVD -- older, but everything works (sound, video, modem) IBM Thinkpad T22 (800MhZ) -- older, everything also works. Dell Inspiron 3500 -- ancient, no sound (NeoMagic chipset) -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:34, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. Sony VAIOs generally do quite well; Google for the linux-sony mailing list. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
Kwan Lowe kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Tiistai 14 Lokakuu 2003 17:23): I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- As of this writing, Centrino wireless does not work with Linux. There were some postings before Centrino was released that Linux would, in fact, be supported. This was entirely marketing hype because there's no working drivers available (I just spent days trying on a Compaq X1000). Also, the power level indicator does not work correctly with RedHat 9 or Mandrake 9.1 on the above X1000. I've tried rebuilding with various patches found throughout the web but it was unreliable. I personally won't buy a Centrino notebook until Intel supports Linux fully. I don't think Intel has the released the specsdocs for the wireless part yet, so there will most likely be problems with that ... not to mention the fact that it's already outdated ;-)... As for the rest of the hw it should be supported in 9.2 kernels, but I don't have the hw to test... And I think Juan himself has a Centrino based laptop, so ... I don't have many other newer notebooks but here's my experience with the older ones that I own: Toshiba Satellite 4090XDVD -- older, but everything works (sound, video, modem) IBM Thinkpad T22 (800MhZ) -- older, everything also works. Dell Inspiron 3500 -- ancient, no sound (NeoMagic chipset) -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 07:34 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I'd start at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:26:11 up 23 days, 22:48, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.11, 0.09 If you cannot in the long run tell everyone what you have been doing, your doing was worthless. -- Edwim Schrodinger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jBW9G11CaRuZZSIRAofDAJ9n9yPVKDUZ3kFZfm25cQa0FRoEMgCfRrvA oxq3FtzSPfcuyMWDifaAvE0= =EA9E -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I used to have an IBM ThinkPad that worked great. The only down-side was a WinModem, but even so I was able to download a proprietary Lucent driver for it. Currently, I am using a no-name model from www.powernotebooks.com. They sell non-branded notebooks at good discounts (comparable to Dell), and by default the notebooks come WITHOUT WINDOWS! Ironically, I ended up ordering mine preinstalled with WinXP Pro (for professional reasons), but I immediately re-partitioned the drive and installed Mandrake 9.1 on it. Everything worked out of the box (including Radeon video w/ 3d acceleration, AC97 sound, integrated NIC, and combo CDRW/DVD drive) except the winmodem, which I have never bothered to try, so I don't know if it is possible. The company even has several user support fora on their site, including one devoted to running Linux on their systems. All in all, I've been very happy with this unit. -- Dave Sherman - MCSE, MCSA, CCNA Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:53 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- As of this writing, Centrino wireless does not work with Linux. There were some postings before Centrino was released that Linux would, in fact, be supported. This was entirely marketing hype because there's no working drivers available (I just spent days trying on a Compaq X1000). Also, the power level indicator does not work correctly with RedHat 9 or Mandrake 9.1 on the above X1000. I've tried rebuilding with various patches found throughout the web but it was unreliable. I personally won't buy a Centrino notebook until Intel supports Linux fully. I don't have many other newer notebooks but here's my experience with the older ones that I own: Toshiba Satellite 4090XDVD -- older, but everything works (sound, video, modem) IBM Thinkpad T22 (800MhZ) -- older, everything also works. Dell Inspiron 3500 -- ancient, no sound (NeoMagic chipset) Thanks for the info. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 8:56 pm, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 07:34 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I'd start at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ I have gone though it. I requested list members for their experience. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 4:48 am, Dave Sherman wrote: L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I used to have an IBM ThinkPad that worked great. The only down-side was a WinModem, but even so I was able to download a proprietary Lucent driver for it. Currently, I am using a no-name model from www.powernotebooks.com. They sell non-branded notebooks at good discounts (comparable to Dell), and by default the notebooks come WITHOUT WINDOWS! Ironically, I ended up ordering mine preinstalled with WinXP Pro (for professional reasons), but I immediately re-partitioned the drive and installed Mandrake 9.1 on it. Everything worked out of the box (including Radeon video w/ 3d acceleration, AC97 sound, integrated NIC, and combo CDRW/DVD drive) except the winmodem, which I have never bothered to try, so I don't know if it is possible. The company even has several user support fora on their site, including one devoted to running Linux on their systems. All in all, I've been very happy with this unit. Thanks for the info -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:34, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. Mines too old to find on the net anymore. Ones I've had success with. IBM Thinkpads Dell Inspirons. Ones I've had to do a little head standing but not too hard. Toshiba Compaq -- (Mines an older M700) HP Don't touch. Anything with SiS chips for video. Suggestions. the closer you get to the cutting edge of hardware the more problems you will have. No matter what OS. The faster the DVD CD-rom drive the more noise a lot of CD's will make. (and I do mean loud! for some.) I've only played with p/X Celeron and AMD CPU's not sure on the Centrino. On built in Modems, some do, some kinda do, and some won't work. Don't count on it working (drivers are an after market product and quite often are 4 or 5 kernel revs behind if they come from the manufacturer.) Look on the Laptops website for info about Linux. The more you see the better your chances, Some like HP will (you have to look hard) Sell a laptop with MDK pre-installed and working on some models. Most important. Before you put down the green verify their return policy, concerning a 3rd party OS if you will do a self install. Some are considerate, some want 15% restock fee. Some are just plain a-holes. Best to find out upfront. Had a friend who bought a laptop from a local store, in the box. Got it home and the LCD was cracked. The dang store wanted a 15% fee to exchange it. (BTW they didn't get it, this was 2 years ago and the chain is now out of business.) I've done this for a couple of people (just in case to make sure that it will install and run right. Shrink the windows partition to as little as is reasonable (round up to the nearest GB) Then install Linux on the rest. If it doesn't work you can use MDK or Partition Magic to re-enlarge the windows partition and then return it, OS intact. With Lilo you just need to run lilo -u to re-install the bootloader back to the pre-Linux days. I'm not sure how to de-grub a box. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
Sure; it's a P4 running at 2GHz; ATI radeon 7500 32MB DDR video , 256M DDR ram, 40G disk. ICH4 AC97 sound chip, 82801BD ethernet. slamr winmodem (driver works well now; I did a few patches myself :) firewire and USB ports, DVD+CDW combo.. -t On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, L.V.Gandhi wrote: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 7:19 pm, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: I have good luck with Thinkpad R40 and Mandrake 9.1. I did upgrade its kernel to the latest, and DRI. -turgut can you give some more info on cpu, chipset, video system? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
