Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
2014-02-10 6:56 GMT+01:00 Andrew Pennebaker andrew.penneba...@gmail.com: I can add that ppa to my source list, but when I `apt-get install factor`, I get a program for factoring compound numbers, not the Factor programming language. Could we rename the ppa to work around the name collision? No you do get the Factor language. But the binary is called factor-lang not factor which is a number factoring program shipped with coreutils. Btw you may also wish to uninstall and reinstall factor as I've recently published new packages here: https://launchpad.net/~bjourne/+archive/factor I plan to update them frequently to keep them in sync with Factor's main master branch. -- mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist http://www.bjornlindqvist.se/ -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
Thanks for the ppa! That's exactly what I was looking for. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Björn Lindqvist bjou...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-02-10 6:56 GMT+01:00 Andrew Pennebaker andrew.penneba...@gmail.com: I can add that ppa to my source list, but when I `apt-get install factor`, I get a program for factoring compound numbers, not the Factor programming language. Could we rename the ppa to work around the name collision? No you do get the Factor language. But the binary is called factor-lang not factor which is a number factoring program shipped with coreutils. Btw you may also wish to uninstall and reinstall factor as I've recently published new packages here: https://launchpad.net/~bjourne/+archive/factor I plan to update them frequently to keep them in sync with Factor's main master branch. -- mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist http://www.bjornlindqvist.se/ -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
2014-02-08 11:56 GMT+01:00 Gabriel Kerneis gabr...@kerneis.info: On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 06:44:32PM -0500, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: If we met users half way, presenting .deb's, .rpm's, maybe a ppa repo, that would be a great start. As a first step, I recommend using https://build.opensuse.org/ It is slightly openSUSE centered, but makes it easy to check that your basic rpm deb build for ubuntu, debian, fedora and openSUSE. A while ago I created Ubuntu packages for Factor and put them in my PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~bjourne/+archive/factor Someone has also packaged Factor for Arch: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/factor/ A big problem is that Factors build doesn't make it easy to install system-wide in a typical Linux setup. So you have to add lots of hacks to the build to add support for prefixed installation, with binary and support files split in different directories. It's a lot of work and hard to keep it in sync with Factors github repository. A smaller problem is that some Factor words wants to overwrite the image and file and write in directories relative to the executable file which obviously is problematic on Linux where writes outside of $HOME is forbidden. But I think most Linux users can live with that limitation. So to address the problematic build I've created an alternate build process which you are welcome to check out here: https://github.com/slavapestov/factor/pull/934 It's written using waf which I think is great for complicated build-processes like Factor's. With the branch, the build command becomes python waf.py configure --prefix=/opt/factor2 build sudo python waf.py install. Using that as their base, I believe someone knowledgable of their distro's build system could very easily package Factor. Then to actually get distros to put Factor in their repos would entail reopening tickets like this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=471925 Plus, Debian has some bureaucratic rules on packages they ship. Like requiring a man page. -- mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
I can add that ppa to my source list, but when I `apt-get install factor`, I get a program for factoring compound numbers, not the Factor programming language. Could we rename the ppa to work around the name collision? On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Björn Lindqvist bjou...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-02-08 11:56 GMT+01:00 Gabriel Kerneis gabr...@kerneis.info: On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 06:44:32PM -0500, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: If we met users half way, presenting .deb's, .rpm's, maybe a ppa repo, that would be a great start. As a first step, I recommend using https://build.opensuse.org/ It is slightly openSUSE centered, but makes it easy to check that your basic rpm deb build for ubuntu, debian, fedora and openSUSE. A while ago I created Ubuntu packages for Factor and put them in my PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~bjourne/+archive/factor Someone has also packaged Factor for Arch: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/factor/ A big problem is that Factors build doesn't make it easy to install system-wide in a typical Linux setup. So you have to add lots of hacks to the build to add support for prefixed installation, with binary and support files split in different directories. It's a lot of work and hard to keep it in sync with Factors github repository. A smaller problem is that some Factor words wants to overwrite the image and file and write in directories relative to the executable file which obviously is problematic on Linux where writes outside of $HOME is forbidden. But I think most Linux users can live with that limitation. So to address the problematic build I've created an alternate build process which you are welcome to check out here: https://github.com/slavapestov/factor/pull/934 It's written using waf which I think is great for complicated build-processes like Factor's. With the branch, the build command becomes python waf.py configure --prefix=/opt/factor2 build sudo python waf.py install. Using that as their base, I believe someone knowledgable of their distro's build system could very easily package Factor. Then to actually get distros to put Factor in their repos would entail reopening tickets like this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=471925 Plus, Debian has some bureaucratic rules on packages they ship. Like requiring a man page. -- mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 06:44:32PM -0500, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: If we met users half way, presenting .deb's, .rpm's, maybe a ppa repo, that would be a great start. As a first step, I recommend using https://build.opensuse.org/ It is slightly openSUSE centered, but makes it easy to check that your basic rpm deb build for ubuntu, debian, fedora and openSUSE. Best, -- Gabriel -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
We could do that if we automate the entire process. That would entail someone writing some code to generate those packages and possibly automatically submitting them to the package managers. Is that possible? Doug On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Pennebaker andrew.penneba...@gmail.com wrote: Could we start building .deb's, .rpm's, etc. as part of continuous integration? Ideally, Linux users could get factor straight from their package manager. -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
[Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
Could we start building .deb's, .rpm's, etc. as part of continuous integration? Ideally, Linux users could get factor straight from their package manager. -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] installation packages for CI?
Package geneartion can be scripted. At worst, deployment to official repo's would require manual intervention each time. If we met users half way, presenting .deb's, .rpm's, maybe a ppa repo, that would be a great start. On Feb 7, 2014 5:13 PM, Doug Coleman doug.cole...@gmail.com wrote: We could do that if we automate the entire process. That would entail someone writing some code to generate those packages and possibly automatically submitting them to the package managers. Is that possible? Doug On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Pennebaker andrew.penneba...@gmail.com wrote: Could we start building .deb's, .rpm's, etc. as part of continuous integration? Ideally, Linux users could get factor straight from their package manager. -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
