RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? 
 People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
  
 Contact John Hagelin directly.
  
 At:
 Global Union of Scientists for Peace
 2000 Capital Boulevard
 Fairfield, IA 52556
 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org
 +1-888-600-GUSP 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were 
changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, 
those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™.  A couple 
weeks ago there was a former MIU student back visiting who applying for a Dome 
badge the course office did an internet search about the person’s life, judged 
and told this person they would never be allowed in the Dome. Never? We need 
membership here and these people go out into the world and tell others what, 
about being excluded? 
  
  
 The narrative needs to change now. It is not enough to claim that things have 
changed when they have not. 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Maharishi once said that there will come a time when I’ll tell you to meditate 
on your own, but for now I want you do it in the domes.
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] FF Meditating Community Meeting

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Hagelin is pretty sensible about facts and data and policy in steering this. 
The communities of the institutions are a lot of work in (human) process. I 
wish him well and the best of fortune for all of us in this.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The deal now is that no one at the top of the org can rule simply by decree. 
Bevan was de-fanged by moving him over. The ™ movement now after Maharishi is 
something of 'democratic-corporate' ruled by boards of trustees, the equivalent 
of executive VP’s (Raja?) and then a class of powerful administrative 
apparatchiks. 
 Maharishi did not leave a guru behind him.  Anyone in leadership has to bring 
people who are around them along on policy. There are people and coalitions at 
all levels with different feelings and interests in all of this. In a spectrum 
of formed values (culture) it is sort of like you have tru-believer devotee or 
faith-based types who fundamentally are not wont to change anything bound by a 
fear of losing 'the purity of the teaching' and then effective practitioners 
who hope to have things work out for good reasons with folks in the scale in 
flux in between.  And, they all now are constrained very much more by the 
reality of budgets and numbers and performance.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks, this is an interesting note to the problems at hand in meditating 
Fairfield, Iowa.  I feel a similar way about publishing the admin guidelines 
for people being in the Domes. The guidelines ought to be on a web page where 
they can be read. It is an opportunity to be clear about our mission that way. 
One would think that if they can’t be shared then something must be wrong with 
them.  
 But there is a cautious element at the upper levels who have some PTS around 
sharing anything for fear that ‘negative people’ will use any information given 
out against the movement. This is an old wound that makes some immobile on 
opening financials or the guidelines.  Certainly there are people and some 
groups out there who actively work against TM. 
 Though in orgs that I have been where opaque numbers and processes get opened 
and shared then everyone looks at them and sees what needs to be done with a 
whole lot better effectiveness and feeling about things. 
 To go forwards the narrative actively needs to be changed around TM on these 
things. That is always my recommend to the powers that Be on this. I’ll forward 
this thread for their review too. FFL is always useful this way.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From E-mail: Doug,  It appears, from the video Hagelin made for the national 
group meditation in which he mentioned repeatedly that you were sitting right 
in front of him, that you have his ear.

 I suggest you remind him that he supported objective and open standards for 
inclusion in presidential debates during his NLP years. In the same way, the 
Sidha community should be subject to objective and open standards with respect 
to inclusion in the dome, and anyone who is denied access should have an 
appeals process available.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Community Justice Panels (RJP’s) in Action
 However, they differ from other restorative practice in that they are 
generally wholly staffed by community volunteers.

 A 'Local' Response to Community Problems? A Critique of Community Justice 
Panels A key characteristic of the CJP process itself is that all participants 
are given the opportunity to speak about the incident, how it occurred, the 
impact as well as the consequences that it has had.
 4
 Usually the offender speaks first so that the circumstances around the 
incident can be heard. The victim is then able to share his/her experience, to 
ask the offender questions and suggest ways in which the harm could be 
repaired. At the end of the meeting an agreement is drawn up, with all parties 
having a say in the content,
 5
 which outlines the activities the offender is required to carry out and the 
timeframe in which it needs to be completed. 
 Activities may include a direct gesture such as mending broken property, 
providing financial recompense, writing a letter of apology to the 
victim,staying away from a particular area/person, or an indirect gesture such 
as community
 

 =..
 Fourth, the term community tends to conjure up positive images of support and 
care and something that needs to be recovered to repair the moral fabric of 
society. However, this rosy view of what community offers and what it can 
achieve often glosses over the potential negative attitudes and responses that 
communities may harbour and a lack of contact and knowledge between individuals 
who make up those communities. Certainly in larger cities and towns this 
becomes more problematic as community membership is often more transient and 
diverse. Even 

Re: [FairfieldLife] FF Meditating Community Meeting

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

New TM.org Millennial-Gen meditators, since 2006.
  
 A Preservation vs. Evolution Conflict
 Belief-based Ashram-like group  vs. A Facilitating Organization for meditation 
practitioners?
 Conservation vs. Progressing
 Conservative vs. Progressive members.
 Unaffiliated meditators.
 Dispossessed meditators.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The deal now is that no one at the top of the org can rule simply by decree. 
Bevan was de-fanged by moving him over. The ™ movement now after Maharishi is 
something of 'democratic-corporate' ruled by boards of trustees, the equivalent 
of executive VP’s (Raja?) and then a class of powerful administrative 
apparatchiks. 
 Maharishi did not leave a guru behind him.  Anyone in leadership has to bring 
people who are around them along on policy. There are people and coalitions at 
all levels with different feelings and interests in all of this. In a spectrum 
of formed values (culture) it is sort of like you have tru-believer devotee or 
faith-based types who fundamentally are not wont to change anything bound by a 
fear of losing 'the purity of the teaching' and then effective practitioners 
who hope to have things work out for good reasons with folks in the scale in 
flux in between.  And, they all now are constrained very much more by the 
reality of budgets and numbers and performance.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks, this is an interesting note to the problems at hand in meditating 
Fairfield, Iowa.  I feel a similar way about publishing the admin guidelines 
for people being in the Domes. The guidelines ought to be on a web page where 
they can be read. It is an opportunity to be clear about our mission that way. 
One would think that if they can’t be shared then something must be wrong with 
them.  
 But there is a cautious element at the upper levels who have some PTS around 
sharing anything for fear that ‘negative people’ will use any information given 
out against the movement. This is an old wound that makes some immobile on 
opening financials or the guidelines.  Certainly there are people and some 
groups out there who actively work against TM. 
 Though in orgs that I have been where opaque numbers and processes get opened 
and shared then everyone looks at them and sees what needs to be done with a 
whole lot better effectiveness and feeling about things. 
 To go forwards the narrative actively needs to be changed around TM on these 
things. That is always my recommend to the powers that Be on this. I’ll forward 
this thread for their review too. FFL is always useful this way.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From E-mail: Doug,  It appears, from the video Hagelin made for the national 
group meditation in which he mentioned repeatedly that you were sitting right 
in front of him, that you have his ear.

 I suggest you remind him that he supported objective and open standards for 
inclusion in presidential debates during his NLP years. In the same way, the 
Sidha community should be subject to objective and open standards with respect 
to inclusion in the dome, and anyone who is denied access should have an 
appeals process available.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Community Justice Panels (RJP’s) in Action
 However, they differ from other restorative practice in that they are 
generally wholly staffed by community volunteers.

 A 'Local' Response to Community Problems? A Critique of Community Justice 
Panels A key characteristic of the CJP process itself is that all participants 
are given the opportunity to speak about the incident, how it occurred, the 
impact as well as the consequences that it has had.
 4
 Usually the offender speaks first so that the circumstances around the 
incident can be heard. The victim is then able to share his/her experience, to 
ask the offender questions and suggest ways in which the harm could be 
repaired. At the end of the meeting an agreement is drawn up, with all parties 
having a say in the content,
 5
 which outlines the activities the offender is required to carry out and the 
timeframe in which it needs to be completed. 
 Activities may include a direct gesture such as mending broken property, 
providing financial recompense, writing a letter of apology to the 
victim,staying away from a particular area/person, or an indirect gesture such 
as community
 

 =..
 Fourth, the term community tends to conjure up positive images of support and 
care and something that needs to be recovered to repair the moral fabric of 
society. However, this rosy view of what community offers and what it can 
achieve often glosses over the potential negative attitudes and responses that 
communities may harbour and a lack of contact and knowledge between individuals 
who make up those communities. Certainly in larger cities and towns this 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

[Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?

Rick Archer
Buddha at the Gas Pump
https://batgap.com
r...@batgap.com
Podcast


From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.
Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 evening.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> wrote :

E-mail responding to



“Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..



You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do?

People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.



Contact John Hagelin directly.



At:

Global Union of Scientists for Peace

2000 Capital Boulevard

Fairfield, IA 52556

secretar...@gusp.org

+1-888-600-GUSP




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> wrote :

Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were 
changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, 
those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™.  A couple 
weeks ago there was a former MIU student back visiting who applying for a Dome 
badge the course office did an internet search about the person’s life, judged 
and told this person they would never be allowed in the Dome. Never? We need 
membership here and these people go out into the world and tell others what, 
about being excluded?





The narrative needs to change now. It is not enough to claim that things have 
changed when they have not.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> wrote :

Maharishi once said that there will come a time when I’ll tell you to meditate 
on your own, but for now I want you do it in the domes.



Rick Archer

Buddha at the Gas Pump

https://batgap.com

r...@batgap.com

Podcast





From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:03 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Me ditating Numbers in the 
Dome:





e-mail:



Insist all those in stopatya veda homes and on campus meditating in different 
places get back to meditating in the domes...  May take some presentation by 
Travis of the science to actually point out the value of proximity.
Regenerate the power of numbers and proximity in meditation. Facilitating 11 
different program locations and encouraging people to just meditate at home was 
a formula in specialness and loss of communal cohesion.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> wrote :

Meditating attendees at the men’s Dome had a relatively large

​YOY (year over year) ​

drop

​this​

June of 26

​fewer men​

per Program than last year.



Attendees at mediation in the women’s Dome had a very very large drop of 79 per 
Program, yoy.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
> wrote :



The ending of the “grant” program funding.



Old meditators cut loose as

the ™ movement readies to

outsource US Meditation to India.



The international ™ movement is announcing it will shift its funding resources 
away from propping the Dome group meditation in Iowa over to pundit programs in 
India.



Winding down the “Grant” program..



Financial support for the Invincible America Assembly had been coming in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Data on the Adverse Effects of Meditation and Mindfulness Study reports on the less-examined findings of difficult and pa

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

E-mail from the FF Satsanga,
 ..
 This research evidently is based on aversion to suffering and confronting the 
content of the mind. That as there is something uncomfortable, that as we are 
confronted with pain or sorrow then somehow that is inherently evil, that there 
is something problematic about that. That if there is something in-equanimous 
in the emotions then that is somehow ‘dissociated’ in life.  

 Outright mental illness aside, the article also speaks to the problem of the 
mind ( the researcher’s too?). It actually speaks the case of why we do need to 
meditate, the problem of the active mind and over-mentalized understanding. 
People certainly are sold on meditation now in the modern era as a curative for 
mental health and some people come to it hoping to be healed of things in their 
life.  

 When you start this process you are going to confront the very nature of the 
mind which is erratic and routy and its contents which as Rohr in his linked 
talk points out are humiliating with compulsive thoughts, anger, paranoias. 
Just because it is in the mind does not make it real or true. It can also just 
in the mind, something the mind is experiencing, conjured up.  

 We are so mind identified, and body identified, we all think way too much.  
This researcher is expressing this thing of ‘over-thinking’ of why would 
something (meditation as something) be of value. 

 They talk and categorize about meditation in terms of experiences, somatics 
and things, and it can also just be in the moment. It is like, “I feel unhappy 
now, meditation is no good.”   Where do you look for its cumulative effects in 
research like this?  Where do you see strength, resilience, courage, 
equanimity, simplicity in clarity of thinking, creative thinking?  How much of 
that is in the result and not the moment?  Do you, “..do a vacuum cleaning and 
do you open up the bag, or just clean? To what end? The idea in meditation is 
that consciousness is the enduring experience, not content.  

https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/06/new-data-adverse-effects-meditation-mindfulness/
 
https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/06/new-data-adverse-effects-meditation-mindfulness/
 

 ..
 

 This researcher is clearly very smart but this paper is all mentalization of 
the mind, the mind’s content and aversions and straight to allopathy.  More 
study needed.   
 FFL
 435257Re: New Data on the Adverse Effects of Meditation and Mindfulness Study 
reports on the less-examined findings of difficult and pa 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Of grounding, 

 A fair quote from Zen Calendar today,

 ..Earth’s crammed with heaven,
 And every common bush afire with the Unified Field:
 But only he who sees takes off his shoes.

 

 Bhairitu offers:

 

The problem is that meditation is often taught wrong.  Other paths often just 
use meditation as a utility, you meditate when you fee like or need.  Advice 
from my tantra guru was, "if you don't feel like meditating then don't as 
nothing will be gained."  Meditation in general is used as a tool to calm the 
sympathetic nervous system, the part of the autonomic nervous system we use for 
activity.  Once calmed the thoughts which the sympathetic system triggers slow 
or stop just leaving an experience of pure consciousness.

But also keep in mind that one person's meditation technique may not work for 
another person.  Though many may need calming other may need stimulation.  
Ayurveda recognizes this and that's why there are different mantras for each 
dosha.  Gurus would often observe a student and give them an appropriate mantra 
for their constitution.  And some paths give a student a mantra for calming and 
one for stimulation, use as needed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This researcher is clearly very smart but this paper is all mentalization of 
the mind, the mind’s content and aversions and straight to allopathy.  More 
study needed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 So claims the DSM..
 Treatment of depersonalization disorder
 There is no single cure for depersonalization disorder; rather, there are 
various approaches to treating the disorder and managing symptoms. 
Psychotherapy and medication are the most common treatment options for 
depersonalization disorder, either in isolation or combined.

 

 ..prognosis for many sufferers is positive. With the correct diagnosis and 
effective treatment, many patients can expect to regain control and 
re-establish a sense of self and connection to their surroundings.
 The treatment suggested will depend on various factors
 

 
https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/depersonalization-or-derealization-disorder-dsm--5-300.6(f48.1)
 
https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/depersonalization-or-derealization-disorder-dsm--5-300.6(f48.1)

 


 

 cardemaister writes:

 

 ..mentioning years ago that sometimes her  ..feelings