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Yes, very fairly answered. Rick represents a lot of the FF meditating community in those answers. You missed important TM questions though like, when and where initiated, who was your initiator, which TTC, when and where did you learn the TM-Sidhis, which courses with Maharishi did you attend? When and where were you on Purusha? Special courses or projects? Carry the skin? Carry money? You also forgot to ask him about his Mother's maiden name and the last four digits of his SS#. Enquiring Minds Want Illumination and to Know, It All, -Buck in the Dome Duveyoung writes: Thanks for the answers, Rick. Some surprised me. Ya done some good. Edg Ya done some good. Edg ultrarishi writes: Sorry to learn about the crap John Black had to go through before becoming a raja. I did program at the Palo Alto TM center back in the mid 80's to early 90's before moving away from the Bay Area. I always found John to be extremely hard working and dedicated to the TM cause. That center was on lean times for years and by shear force of will and some mediocre support from others in the area he kept Palo Alto going.
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On 4/28/2014 4:37 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love it! Don't know if it ever sold, but look at the article - the property is worth 2.3 million and theses asses were asking for 16 million!!! It seems to drive you nuts when you find out how well the TMO is doing these days. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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The relatively high success the TMO has these days drives losers like the Turq et.al nuts. That's why they remain losers, not having accomplished anything artistically or in Sadhana what remains for this sorry lot is to criticize the successful. It seems to drive you nuts when you find out how well the TMO is doing these days. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
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The relatively high success the TMO has these days drives losers like the Turq et.al. nuts. That's why they remain losers, not having accomplished anything artistically or in Sadhana what remains for this sorry lot is to criticize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/28/2014 4:37 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love it! Don't know if it ever sold, but look at the article - the property is worth 2.3 million and theses asses were asking for 16 million!!! It seems to drive you nuts when you find out how well the TMO is doing these days. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
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On 4/29/2014 10:18 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: The relatively high success the TMO has these days drives losers like the Turq et.al. nuts. That's why they remain losers, not having accomplished anything artistically or in Sadhana what remains for this sorry lot is to criticize. This is a psychological analysis of Barry Wright Uncle Tantra, X-Buddhist Monk of Rama Dr. Frederick Lenz and X-TM practitioner. Barry Uncle Tantra Wright is the author of a poorly disjointed online book called Road Trip Mind: From: Garuda Subject: Barry Wright Uncle Tantra Trashing Rama Dr. Frederick Lenz - An analysis Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.dreams.castaneda, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: 2003-05-07 13:39:57 PST http://tinyurl.com/jonw ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : It seems to drive you nuts when you find out how well the TMO is doing these days. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Questions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed? No. Using a mantra Amma gave me about a dozen years ago, but doing it TM-Style. If so: A. How many advanced techniques? Learned them all. Don’t do them, except for maybe one involving attention. B. Siddhis? All of them? Learned them, did them for 25 years. No longer. C. How many did you initiate and circa/when? About 1,000. Mostly early 70’s. D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? Yes. How often do you do puja? Did it mentally recently, just to see if I remember it. Otherwise not in years. E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. Not really. I don’t dispute that some have, but I doubt Newtonian physics has been violated by any in the TM movement. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors? No. Never did. G. When were you last checked? Decades ago. H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.? No, usually about 10:30. I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO? 10’s of $ 1,000 counting all courses, etc. But got many on ATR credit. J. When did you move to FF? 1987 2. Is your shit together? A matter of opinion. 3. When did you stop using the TM technique? Why? Never did, unless you count switching mantras. If so, then about 12 years ago. 4. What other gurus have you followed whom you SINCERELY BELIEVED were enlightened? Amma If so: A. What spiritual practices do you do these days? How often? Meditation, about 3-4 times a day, totaling about 3 hours. B. Still do hatha yoga? Most days. C. What diet do you follow? Mostly vege, with some chicken and fish in recent years. D. Other than TM, did you make other major spiritual decisions that you now regret or wish had been tweaked a bit? Not really. And I don’t regret TM either. E. Still seeking? “Exploring”, “investigating”, “evolving” are better words than “seeking”. The desperate, unfulfilled seeking energy is gone. 5. Are you enlightened? When did you realize? No. I don’t like the term. Too static and superlative a term. If so: A. Are there any differences in how you define awareness, being, transcendent, Self, and the Absolute? I don’t clearly differentiate the terms. B. Is there an afterlife in other realms or on other worlds? Yes. C. Do you see astral beings? No, although I’ve had a glimpse or two. D. Do any of your friends think you're enlightened? I hope not. Have they surrendered to you? No, but anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to send me all their money. E. Do rocks have consciousness or sentience of any sort? Rocks are consciousness. F. Are you able to do any siddhis that an outside observer could measure? No. 6. Personal History A. Age - 64 B. Astrological signs: Sun, Rising, Moon Don’t know. Would have to ask my wife. Do you watch your chart's daily changes? - no C. Married how long? – 27 years D. Children? no E. Education? MA in SCI and MSCI F. Work history? TMO 25 years, computer consulting, SEO G. Health? - excellent F. Social life? Not much. Batgap has exposed me to many new friends around the world. H. How smart are you? Duh I. Where have you traveled? All over the US, Europe, India, Iran, Philippines J. How has ordinary aging made you wiser? – hard to say. 7. Off the top of your head -- without looking at any listings -- which FFL members immediately come to mind? (List up to ten) – Judy, Barry, Alex, you, Nabby, Richard Williams, Buck/Doug, Michael Jackson. 8. Did Maharishi have sex with those women? The evidence is compelling. Multiple 1st-hand accounts, substantial circumstantial evidence. 9. Is Girish as corrupt as most active FFL members suppose? Probably 10. Has your badge been officially pulled? Yes Are you blocked from campus? no 11. After all these interviews, has your nervous system developed an intuitive ability to sort out these folks into heavy duty, has had some experiences but isn't enlightened, hucksters, etc.? more and more so. 12. Who is the most enlightened person now living on the planet
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This is worth commenting on, if for no other reason than as a counterpoint to Maharishi's recently-posted interview non-responses. I like it. It feels honest, in a way that Maharishi's responses never did. But then I may be biased because he offered to take a bullet for me. :-) From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Questions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed? No. Using a mantra Amma gave me about a dozen years ago, but doing it TM-Style. If so: A. How many advanced techniques? Learned them all. Don’t do them, except for maybe one involving attention. B. Siddhis? All of them? Learned them, did them for 25 years. No longer. C. How many did you initiate and circa/when? About 1,000. Mostly early 70’s. D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? Yes. How often do you do puja? Did it mentally recently, just to see if I remember it. Otherwise not in years. E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. Not really. I don’t dispute that some have, but I doubt Newtonian physics has been violated by any in the TM movement. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors? No. Never did. G. When were you last checked? Decades ago. H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.? No, usually about 10:30. I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO? 10’s of $ 1,000 counting all courses, etc. But got many on ATR credit. J. When did you move to FF? 1987 2. Is your shit together? A matter of opinion. 3. When did you stop using the TM technique? Why? Never did, unless you count switching mantras. If so, then about 12 years ago. 4. What other gurus have you followed whom you SINCERELY BELIEVED were enlightened? Amma If so: A. What spiritual practices do you do these days? How often? Meditation, about 3-4 times a day, totaling about 3 hours. B. Still do hatha yoga? Most days. C. What diet do you follow? Mostly vege, with some chicken and fish in recent years. D. Other than TM, did you make other major spiritual decisions that you now regret or wish had been tweaked a bit? Not really. And I don’t regret TM either. E. Still seeking? “Exploring”, “investigating”, “evolving” are better words than “seeking”. The desperate, unfulfilled seeking energy is gone. 5. Are you enlightened? When did you realize? No. I don’t like the term. Too static and superlative a term. If so: A. Are there any differences in how you define awareness, being, transcendent, Self, and the Absolute? I don’t clearly differentiate the terms. B. Is there an afterlife in other realms or on other worlds? Yes. C. Do you see astral beings? No, although I’ve had a glimpse or two. D. Do any of your friends think you're enlightened? I hope not. Have they surrendered to you? No, but anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to send me all their money. E. Do rocks have consciousness or sentience of any sort? Rocks are consciousness. F. Are you able to do any siddhis that an outside observer could measure? No. 6. Personal History A. Age- 64 B. Astrological signs: Sun, Rising, Moon Don’t know. Would have to ask my wife. Do you watch your chart's daily changes?- no C. Married how long?– 27 years D. Children?no E. Education?MA in SCI and MSCI F. Work history?TMO 25 years, computer consulting, SEO G. Health?- excellent F. Social life?Not much. Batgap has exposed me to many new friends around the world. H. How smart are you?Duh I. Where have you traveled?All over the US, Europe, India, Iran, Philippines J. How has ordinary aging made you wiser?– hard to say. 7. Off the top of your head -- without looking at any listings -- which FFL members immediately come to mind? (List up to ten)– Judy, Barry, Alex, you, Nabby, Richard Williams, Buck/Doug, Michael Jackson. 8. Did Maharishi have sex with those women?The evidence is compelling. Multiple 1st-hand accounts, substantial circumstantial evidence. 9. Is Girish as corrupt as most active FFL members suppose?Probably 10. Has your badge been officially pulled? Yes Are you blocked from campus?no 11. After all these interviews, has your nervous system developed an intuitive ability to sort out these folks into heavy
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Rick, I noticed you said you went to Iran - was that with the peace creating groups and would you share any of your experiences with us here? On Mon, 4/28/14, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 28, 2014, 4:20 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Questions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed?No. Using a mantra Amma gave me about a dozen years ago, but doing it TM-Style. If so: A. How many advanced techniques?Learned them all. Don’t do them, except for maybe one involving attention. B. Siddhis? All of them?Learned them, did them for 25 years. No longer. C. How many did you initiate and circa/when?About 1,000. Mostly early 70’s. D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? Yes.How often do you do puja?Did it mentally recently, just to see if I remember it. Otherwise not in years. E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. Not really. I don’t dispute that some have, but I doubt Newtonian physics has been violated by any in the TM movement. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors?No. Never did. G. When were you last checked?Decades ago. H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.?No, usually about 10:30. I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO?10’s of $ 1,000 counting all courses, etc. But got many on ATR credit. J. When did you move to FF?1987 2. Is your shit together?A matter of opinion. 3. When did you stop using the TM technique? Why?Never did, unless you count switching mantras. If so, then about 12 years ago. 4. What other gurus have you followed whom you SINCERELY BELIEVED were enlightened?Amma If so: A. What spiritual practices do you do these days? How often?Meditation, about 3-4 times a day, totaling about 3 hours. B. Still do hatha yoga?Most days. C. What diet do you follow?Mostly vege, with some chicken and fish in recent years. D. Other than TM, did you make other major spiritual decisions that you now regret or wish had been tweaked a bit?Not really. And I don’t regret TM either. E. Still seeking?“Exploring”, “investigating”, “evolving” are better words than “seeking”. The desperate, unfulfilled seeking energy is gone. 5. Are you enlightened? When did you realize? No. I don’t like the term. Too static and superlative a term. If so: A. Are there any differences in how you define awareness, being, transcendent, Self, and the Absolute?I don’t clearly differentiate the terms. B. Is there an afterlife in other realms or on other worlds?Yes. C. Do you see astral beings?No, although I’ve had a glimpse or two. D. Do any of your friends think you're enlightened? I hope not.Have they surrendered to you?No, but anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to send me all their money. E. Do rocks have consciousness or sentience of any sort?Rocks are consciousness. F. Are you able to do any siddhis that an outside observer could measure?No. 6. Personal History A. Age - 64 B. Astrological signs: Sun, Rising, Moon Don’t know. Would have to ask my wife.Do you watch your chart's daily changes? - no C. Married how long? – 27 years D. Children? no E. Education? MA in SCI and MSCI F. Work history? TMO 25 years, computer consulting, SEO G. Health? - excellent F. Social life? Not much. Batgap has exposed me to many new friends around the world. H. How smart are you? Duh I. Where have you traveled? All over the US, Europe, India, Iran, Philippines J. How has ordinary aging made you wiser? – hard to say. 7. Off the top of your head -- without looking at any listings -- which FFL members immediately come to mind? (List up to ten) – Judy, Barry, Alex, you, Nabby, Richard Williams, Buck/Doug, Michael Jackson. 8. Did Maharishi have sex with those women? The evidence is compelling. Multiple 1st-hand accounts, substantial
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I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 11:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Also, since you feel Amma is enlightened, then do you take all the negative press about her as lies? Particularly the allegations made by Gail Tredwell? Amma denies charges, Chandy backs her but Pinarayi seeks probe Written by Shaju Philip | Thiruvananthapuram | February 23, 2014 4:56 am As the CPI(M) and Congress joined the debate over the allegations raised against her ashram by a former aide, spiritual leader Mata Amritanandamayi on Saturday said attempts were on to foment trouble after unleashing communal sentiments. Amritanandamayi told a spiritual session in Palakkad that her ashram was an open book and there was no lapse on its part. “Some people are saying certain things against the ashram when their plans did not materialise. I am trying to forget and forgive these issues. I don’t ask anyone to serve me. Instead, I am serving others,’’ she said. Gail Tredwell alias Gayatri, who was Amma’s attendant for two decades since early 1980s, in her recently published Holy Hell — A Memoir of Faith, Devotion and Pure Madness, alleged sexual exploitation and promiscuity involving senior ashram members. The contents of the book had gone viral on social media, but prominent dailies in Kerala remained silent on the issue. Three Amma devotees filed a police compliant in Kollam district against “offensive content” on the social media. DYFI national president M B Rajesh, meanwhile, said it was not right of the police to register a case against those who reacted on the allegations. On Saturday, CPM state secretary Pinarayi Vijayan said the allegations against the ashram were serious. “That the revelations were made by an insider of the ashram for many years shows the gravity of the issue. The writer’s personal experiences show that wrongful things were happening at the ashram,’’ he said the government must probe the large amounts of money reaching the ashrams and see whether anti-national activities were taking place in such spiritual centres. While Congress state president V M Sudheeran made a cautious reaction saying he wanted to study the issue, Chief Minister Oommen Chandy said one should not forget the great services of the ashram. “I had participated in the social services of the ashram. Vijayan should have considered it,’’ said Chandy. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/mata-amritanandamayi-dismiss-allegations-against-her-ashram/ On Mon, 4/28/14, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 28, 2014, 4:20 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Questions for RickQuestions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed?No. Using a mantra Amma gave me about a dozen years ago, but doing it TM-Style. If so: A. How many advanced techniques?Learned them all. Don’t do them, except for maybe one involving attention. B. Siddhis? All of them?Learned them, did them for 25 years. No longer. C. How many did you initiate and circa/when?About 1,000. Mostly early 70’s. D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? Yes.How often do you do puja?Did it mentally recently, just to see if I remember it. Otherwise not in years. E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. Not really. I don’t dispute that some have, but I doubt Newtonian physics has been violated by any in the TM movement. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors?No. Never did. G. When were you last checked?Decades ago. H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.?No, usually about 10:30. I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO?10’s of $ 1,000 counting all courses, etc. But got many
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Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. Ah, the classic cultist response. If someone believes something you don't agree with about *your* spiritual teacher, cast aspersions on his teacher, or who you imagine his teacher is. Where this strategy falls flat is when dealing with people whose primary identification in life is *not* their spiritual teacher, or their former ones. Those whose lives still revolve around the people they consider their spiritual teachers never seem to get this. As far as I've been able to figure out, they simply cannot imagine life *without* having given oneself over to some spiritual teacher, so they cannot imagine others being able to do so. So they try to jab at them with taunts that would only be meaningful to cultists like themselves. It's kinda the Ultimate Projection. Go figure. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
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OK, looks like Rick was referring to Tredwell's specific claims, whatever they are. Still, to point out that Amma has a lot of critics is hardly to cast aspersions on her; it's just a matter of fact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. Ah, the classic cultist response. If someone believes something you don't agree with about *your* spiritual teacher, cast aspersions on his teacher, or who you imagine his teacher is. Where this strategy falls flat is when dealing with people whose primary identification in life is *not* their spiritual teacher, or their former ones. Those whose lives still revolve around the people they consider their spiritual teachers never seem to get this. As far as I've been able to figure out, they simply cannot imagine life *without* having given oneself over to some spiritual teacher, so they cannot imagine others being able to do so. So they try to jab at them with taunts that would only be meaningful to cultists like themselves. It's kinda the Ultimate Projection. Go figure. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfri...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. There’s definitely an anti-Amma group, and she’s had critics all along. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by many in a position to know. Ah, the classic cultist response. If someone believes something you don't agree with about *your* spiritual teacher, cast aspersions on his teacher, or who you imagine his teacher is. Where this strategy falls flat is when dealing with people whose primary identification in life is *not* their spiritual teacher, or their former ones. Those whose lives still revolve around the people they consider their spiritual teachers never seem to get this. As far as I've been able to figure out, they simply cannot imagine life *without* having given oneself over to some spiritual teacher, so they cannot imagine others being able to do so. So they try to jab at them with taunts that would only be meaningful to cultists like themselves. It's kinda the Ultimate Projection. Go figure. :-) _ From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
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As there is 0 evidence of the vile rumors you post here about Maharishi and refuted by many in the position to know. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by many in a position to know. - Rick Archer, King of Rumors ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend@... Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. There’s definitely an anti-Amma group, and she’s had critics all along. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by many in a position to know. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
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I reckon time will tell - wasn't Judith Borque the first to very clearly state
that Maharishi was sexually active? I mean I know there were rumors, but Judith
was the first to state it clearly and there were plenty of people who said she
was making it up who could have been said to be in a position to know, like
Jerry Jarvis who still today asserts that the allegations are utterly false.
He said so as recently as about 3 or 4 months ago to my friend Bill who talked
to him several times over the phone and asked him point blank if the sex rumors
were true. Jerry insists that he and other personal secretaries and skin boys
saw none of it, not even hints. So if Gail Tredwell remains the lone voice,
then maybe she's just being mean, but I am betting others will come forward and
give credence to her tale.
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Except, of course, for the
fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing
complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe
there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a
little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone
voice.
Maybe
Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll
explain further what he had in mind. There’s definitely
an anti-Amma group, and she’s had critics all along. What
I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book
for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are
refuted by many in a position to
know.
Ah, the classic
cultist response. If someone believes something you
don't agree with about *your* spiritual teacher, cast
aspersions on his teacher, or who you imagine his teacher
is.
Where this strategy
falls flat is when dealing with people whose primary
identification in life is *not* their spiritual teacher, or
their former ones. Those whose lives still revolve around
the people they consider their spiritual teachers never seem
to get this.
As far as
I've been able to figure out, they simply cannot imagine
life *without* having given oneself over to some spiritual
teacher, so they cannot imagine others being able to do so.
So they try to jab at them with taunts that would only be
meaningful to cultists like themselves. It's kinda the
Ultimate Projection. Go figure. :-)
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34
PM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife]
Questions for Rick
Lone
critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for
critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say
the least.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
rick@...
wrote :I’ve been
following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies.
The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY,
Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any
corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations.
Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago,
was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with
gurus in general.
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
So do you think Nabby, that Amma is a false guru and where does she sit in the
Creme list of gurus/masters?
On Mon, 4/28/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 28, 2014, 7:27 PM
As there is 0 evidence of the vile rumors you post
here about Maharishi and refuted by many in the position to
know.
What I meant
was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which
there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by
many in a position to know.- Rick Archer, King
of Rumors
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
rick@... wrote :
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
authfriend@...
Sent: Monday,
April 28, 2014 1:36 PM
To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions
for Rick Except,
of course, for the fact that Nabby is right.
We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for
years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group.
So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying
Tredwell's is a lone voice.
Maybe
Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll
explain further what he had in mind.
There’s
definitely an anti-Amma group, and she’s had critics all
along. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations
in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence,
and which are refuted by many in a position to
know.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34
PM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife]
Questions for Rick
Lone
critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for
critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say
the least.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
rick@...
wrote :I’ve been following the whole thing.
I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black
and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a
lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for
her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on
FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a
bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
The claim is about the sex-life of Amma. True or false it is widely covered amongst the disgruntled ex-Amma disciples and not only by one persons as Rick claims. Seems these accusations, true or false, has boomeranged on Rick who has spent a lot of energy trying to smear the name of the only Saint he ever met with the same kind of accusations. Yet some souls claim Instant Karma is but a catch-phrase. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : OK, looks like Rick was referring to Tredwell's specific claims, whatever they are. Still, to point out that Amma has a lot of critics is hardly to cast aspersions on her; it's just a matter of fact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
On 4/28/2014 12:58 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: So they try to jab at them with taunts that would only be meaningful to cultists like themselves. It's kinda the Ultimate Projection. It's actually much simpler than that - every time you jab at MMY with taunts, you get a jabbing back at you with a taunt about Rama. It's kinda like */Ultimate Payback /*which would only be meaningful to a cultist such as yourself. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick As there is 0 evidence of the vile rumors you post here about Maharishi and refuted by many in the position to know. Vast difference in the amount of evidence. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by many in a position to know. - Rick Archer, King of Rumors ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend@... Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. There’s definitely an anti-Amma group, and she’s had critics all along. What I meant was that she makes certain accusations in her book for which there is no corroborating evidence, and which are refuted by many in a position to know. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:59 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick The claim is about the sex-life of Amma. True or false it is widely covered amongst the disgruntled ex-Amma disciples and not only by one persons as Rick claims. They’re all regurgitating Gail’s rumors. Seems these accusations, true or false, has boomeranged on Rick who has spent a lot of energy trying to smear the name of the only Saint he ever met with the same kind of accusations. Yet some souls claim Instant Karma is but a catch-phrase. Are you suggesting that my discussing MMY’s sex life has somehow inspired Gail to write her book? I must be one powerful dude. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, looks like Rick was referring to Tredwell's specific claims, whatever they are. Still, to point out that Amma has a lot of critics is hardly to cast aspersions on her; it's just a matter of fact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
No. Merely wriggling in the same trash-can as her :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:59 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick The claim is about the sex-life of Amma. True or false it is widely covered amongst the disgruntled ex-Amma disciples and not only by one persons as Rick claims. They’re all regurgitating Gail’s rumors. Seems these accusations, true or false, has boomeranged on Rick who has spent a lot of energy trying to smear the name of the only Saint he ever met with the same kind of accusations. Yet some souls claim Instant Karma is but a catch-phrase. Are you suggesting that my discussing MMY’s sex life has somehow inspired Gail to write her book? I must be one powerful dude. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : OK, looks like Rick was referring to Tredwell's specific claims, whatever they are. Still, to point out that Amma has a lot of critics is hardly to cast aspersions on her; it's just a matter of fact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Except, of course, for the fact that Nabby is right. We've been hearing complaints about Amma here on FFL for years. I believe there's even an anti-Amma Yahoo Group. So it really is a little odd to see Rick saying Tredwell's is a lone voice. Maybe Rick didn't express himself clearly; perhaps he'll explain further what he had in mind. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick Lone critic ? Shows how blind you have become. Try Google for critics of Amma and you will have more than one hit, to say the least. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’ve been following the whole thing. I wouldn’t say it’s all lies. The truth is never black and white. But unlike with MMY, Gail Treadwell seems to be a lone voice. Very little if any corroborating evidence for her most egregious accusations. Bronte Baxter, who posted on FFL for a while some years ago, was her editor, and has a bone to pick with Amma and with gurus in general.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
On 4/28/2014 2:30 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I reckon time will tell - wasn't Judith Borque the first to very clearly state that Maharishi was sexually active? I mean I know there were rumors, but Judith was the first to state it clearly Actually Judith didn't state anything very clearly about her sexual relations with MMY, if any. It could have been just a back rub for all we know. Read the book and then get back to us on the details. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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I love it! Don't know if it ever sold, but look at the article - the property is worth 2.3 million and theses asses were asking for 16 million!!! Maharishi Center in Lancaster for sale Popular meditation spot drew celebrities The Maharishi Ayurveda Health Center on George Hill Road in Lancaster. (TG Staff/FILE PHOTO) By Lynne Klaft Correspondent and Karen Nugent TELEGRAM GAZETTE STAFF LANCASTER — The Maharishi Ayurveda Health Center, a landmark 217-acre gated property that once attracted celebrities such as Elizabeth Taylor, George Hamilton, Michael Jackson and George Harrison, is for sale. The center, at 679 George Hill Road, consists of several buildings. It was put on the market last week for $16 million, according to Nancy J. Hazel of TP Hazel Sotheby's International Realty, the agent handling the sale. She said there have already been some inquiries, but yesterday declined to say if she showed the property. Lothar Pirc, president of the center, said it remains open. “It is for sale,” he said. “That doesn't mean it will be sold.” The property owner is listed in the Lancaster assessor's office as Maharishi Global Development, and its use is listed as educational. Its assessed property value (buildings and land) is approximately $2.3 million. There are 20 bedrooms, 20 bathrooms, fireplaces, terraces, staff quarters, gardens and meadows. Recently, it has operated as a high-end spa for meditation, alternative health practices, and Ayurveda education. The estimated real estate tax is around $32,000 a year. Mr. Pirc, also the director of a Maharishi center in Germany, is involved with other Ayurveda centers around the world, and was part of the force behind a 2009 rebirth of the center. Ayurveda, an ancient form of medication and health practices from India, became popular in the 1970s through the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a controversial guru visited by the Beatles who promoted healing and mediation practices. Mr. Pirc said the property owner is a nonprofit organization that holds a 49 percent share in the business and could have some say on how it would operate under a new owner. The center opened in 1985 and for years drew celebrities who wanted to practice meditation and receive treatments in a spa-like atmosphere away from the public. Ms. Taylor, while staying at the center in 1988, was taken to Clinton Hospital for a sore hip. Mr. Harrison, who followed the Maharishi after his bandmates soured on him, was spotted at the Solomon Pond Mall in Marlboro, at a convenience store in Bolton and a few other spots. Lancaster police were occasionally called to keep Jackson fans off the property. In 2000, the estate was put on the market for $14 million after the Maharishi moved his center to North Carolina. A deal with a private owner for use as a private home fell through, and in 2006 a new group of transcendental meditation followers with grandiose plans for a grade school and a university came in, eventually leading to the purchase by Mr. Pirc's group. The historic mansion was designed by Guy Lowell, architect of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston, and built by Bayard Thayer of Lancaster in 1904, according to Lancaster Historical Commission records. Originally called Hawthorne Hill, the estate was the summer and holiday get-away home for the Thayers who lived on Boston's Beacon Hill. Mr. Thayer was known for his interest in trees; he had a pinetum, an area dedicated to the cultivation of trees on the property. Hawthorne Hill was known for its landscaping and gardens and was opened to residents once a year during its heyday. “The town has always enjoyed a strong relationship with the Maharishi Ayurveda Health Center,” said Town Administrator Orlando Pacheco. “We understand that in this economy that they have to do what is best in its long-term interest. The town is willing and welcoming to any proposed buyers on the development or redevelopment of the site.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
Sorry to learn about the crap John Black had to go through before becoming a raja. I did program at the Palo Alto TM center back in the mid 80's to early 90's before moving away from the Bay Area. I always found John to be extremely hard working and dedicated to the TM cause. That center was on lean times for years and by shear force of will and some mediocre support from others in the area he kept Palo Alto going.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
Thanks for the answers, Rick. Some surprised me. Ya done some good. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
Questions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed? If so: A. How many advanced techniques? B. Siddhis? All of them? C. How many did you initiate and circa/when? D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? How often do you do puja? E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors? G. When were you last checked? H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.? I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO? J. When did you move to FF? 2. Is your shit together? 3. When did you stop using the TM technique? Why? 4. What other gurus have you followed whom you SINCERELY BELIEVED were enlightened? If so: A. What spiritual practices do you do these days? How often? B. Still do hatha yoga? C. What diet do you follow? D. Other than TM, did you make other major spiritual decisions that you now regret or wish had been tweaked a bit? E. Still seeking? 5. Are you enlightened? When did you realize? If so: A. Are there any differences in how you define awareness, being, transcendent, Self, and the Absolute? B. Is there an afterlife in other realms or on other worlds? C. Do you see astral beings? D. Do any of your friends think you're enlightened? Have they surrendered to you? E. Do rocks have consciousness or sentience of any sort? F. Are you able to do any siddhis that an outside observer could measure? 6. Personal History A. Age B. Astrological signs: Sun, Rising, Moon Do you watch your chart's daily changes? C. Married how long? D. Children? E. Education? F. Work history? G. Health? F. Social life? H. How smart are you? I. Where have you traveled? J. How has ordinary aging made you wiser? 7. Off the top of your head -- without looking at any listings -- which FFL members immediately come to mind? (List up to ten) 8. Did Maharishi have sex with those women? 9. Is Girish as corrupt as most active FFL members suppose? 10. Has your badge been officially pulled? Are you blocked from campus? 11. After all these interviews, has your nervous system developed an intuitive ability to sort out these folks into heavy duty, has had some experiences but isn't enlightened, hucksters, etc.? 12. Who is the most enlightened person now living on the planet that you know of/believe-in? 13. Who is on your short list of those you most want to interview? 14. Are there folks in the TMO out to make your life miserable? Any offense being conducted? 15. Do you think the rajas are a joke doomed to be one of the TM movement's greatest embarrassments? 16. If you HAD TO choose NOW who had to die by firing squad: A. Curtis or Marek? B. Turq or Judy? C. Nabby or Shemp? 17. Did you cry actual tears for L.B.? 18. Which TM leaders in the past got a raw deal from Maharishi? 19. Are you still harried by karma on a daily basis or is it just me projecting? 20. Have you even walked around FF for even 5 minutes without having to wave to someone? 21. When they finally sell the domes, what happens to FF's core? Does the community just dissolve as everyone dies off? 22. Do you feel that the FFL members as a group are getting anywhere? Is the conversation here still helpful and worth it as much as ever? Or has its value evolved? 23. Which movement leader is/was: A. Most evil? B. Most sattvic? C. Most clueless? D. Most intellectually clear about spirituality? 24. If you were 20 years old what spiritual path would you hope you'd utilize? 25. Do you believe any of the following are worthy of your time? A. Numerology? B. Palmistry? C. Palm leaves? D. Chiropractors? E. Sauna therapy? F. Fasting? G. Ajur ved? H. Modern medicine? I. Lucid dreaming? J. Reading scriptures? Okay, that's enoughthese were off the top of my head and in no special order. Edg ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Something Fax Gilbert and I are going to do. Buddha at the Gas Pump (BATGAP) founder Rick Archer will himself be interviewed by Fax Gilbert on Sunday, May 11 7:30-9 p.m., at the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
Damn! I think all of us on FFL should fill out this questionnaire. On Sun, 4/27/14, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 27, 2014, 9:19 PM Questions for Rick 1. Do you still take the TM mantra as instructed? If so: A. How many advanced techniques? B. Siddhis? All of them? C. How many did you initiate and circa/when? D. Can you still do the puja with the meanings and feelings? How often do you do puja? E. Have you ever actually leaped into the air during the flying siddhi and NOT have done it mindfully on purpose instead of the leap having been caused mysteriously and spontaneously-from-the-beyond-the-beyond?. F. Do you have clear cognition of the flavors? G. When were you last checked? H. Do you get to bed before 10 P.M.? I. How much money in total have you paid to the TMO? J. When did you move to FF? 2. Is your shit together? 3. When did you stop using the TM technique? Why? 4. What other gurus have you followed whom you SINCERELY BELIEVED were enlightened? If so: A. What spiritual practices do you do these days? How often? B. Still do hatha yoga? C. What diet do you follow? D. Other than TM, did you make other major spiritual decisions that you now regret or wish had been tweaked a bit? E. Still seeking? 5. Are you enlightened? When did you realize? If so: A. Are there any differences in how you define awareness, being, transcendent, Self, and the Absolute? B. Is there an afterlife in other realms or on other worlds? C. Do you see astral beings? D. Do any of your friends think you're enlightened? Have they surrendered to you? E. Do rocks have consciousness or sentience of any sort? F. Are you able to do any siddhis that an outside observer could measure? 6. Personal History A. Age B. Astrological signs: Sun, Rising, Moon Do you watch your chart's daily changes? C. Married how long? D. Children? E. Education? F. Work history? G. Health? F. Social life? H. How smart are you? I. Where have you traveled? J. How has ordinary aging made you wiser? 7. Off the top of your head -- without looking at any listings -- which FFL members immediately come to mind? (List up to ten) 8. Did Maharishi have sex with those women? 9. Is Girish as corrupt as most active FFL members suppose? 10. Has your badge been officially pulled? Are you blocked from campus? 11. After all these interviews, has your nervous system developed an intuitive ability to sort out these folks into heavy duty, has had some experiences but isn't enlightened, hucksters, etc.? 12. Who is the most enlightened person now living on the planet that you know of/believe-in? 13. Who is on your short list of those you most want to interview? 14. Are there folks in the TMO out to make your life miserable? Any offense being conducted? 15. Do you think the rajas are a joke doomed to be one of the TM movement's greatest embarrassments? 16. If you HAD TO choose NOW who had to die by firing squad: A. Curtis or Marek? B. Turq or Judy? C. Nabby or Shemp? 17. Did you cry actual tears for L.B.? 18. Which TM leaders in the past got a raw deal from Maharishi? 19. Are you still harried by karma on a daily basis or is it just me projecting? 20. Have you even walked around FF for even 5 minutes without having to wave to someone? 21. When they finally sell the domes, what happens to FF's core? Does the community just dissolve as everyone dies off? 22. Do you feel that the FFL members as a group are getting anywhere? Is the conversation here still helpful and worth it as much as ever? Or has its value evolved? 23. Which movement leader is/was: A. Most evil? B. Most sattvic? C. Most clueless? D. Most intellectually clear about spirituality? 24. If you were 20 years old what spiritual path would you hope you'd utilize? 25. Do you believe any of the following are worthy of your time? A. Numerology? B. Palmistry? C. Palm leaves? D. Chiropractors
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
On 4/27/2014 4:29 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Damn! I think all of us on FFL should fill out this questionnaire. I think I've answered most of these question at one time or another, on Yahoo Groups or on Google Groups. But, I have one question to add to the list: Why? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Questions for Rick
Rick, 1. Who are your upcoming guests on Batgap? I had heard Pamela Wilson, Gangaji, maybe Adyashanti etc? Wayne Liquorman was really interesting. 2. Also, do you ever get a darshan blast during interviews? Finally, altho I am recently listed as 'noah on my posts, I am not Noah - i think this is just because I am using a different computer while on vacation. I am Susan (aka wayback71, the year I went to TTC).
