Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
On 4/28/2014 7:36 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: you've become sort of the mirror image to someone like Nabby, in that you have this knee jerk reaction to find a justification for your conclusions even if they don't make a lot of sense. Barry did a 180 - he used to sort of make sense about being on a spiritual path, but these days he seems more confused. He still sort of likes Rama and MMY, but he can't stand anyone else that does too. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
Beautiful! Beautiful! He admits he is a snake oil salesman!
On Mon, 4/28/14, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:48 AM
REPORTER: You're not doing
much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a
P.T. Barnum of the psychic set.
MAHARISHI:
What does this mean?
REPORTER:
That you're a natural salesman.
MAHARISHI:
Very right. I think I have something
salable.
REPORTER: What are you
selling?
MAHARISHI:
Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness
where everything
is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this
product,
they're better off.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
Why don't you raise money and distribute it to
needy people? Would
this not be a more effective way to bring about
change?
MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not
the money that can make one happy.
REPORTER:
How can Third World people think about their
consciousness when they're hungry?
MAHARISHI:
By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if
they use their brain
properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field --
the infinity
of nature will make them capable of not only earning their
ordinary
bread but very first-class
bread.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
What do you think about the arms race and nuclear
war?
MAHARISHI: Arms race will not
be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will
be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of
life, and
that we can eliminate completely.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
You have written that by meditating, man brings out
his own sense of divinity in himself.
MAHARISHI:
Right, we can talk divinity.
REPORTER:
What about someone like Hitler. If he had
meditated?
MAHARISHI: He would have been
more positive.
REPORTER: You really think you
can change people's natures by
meditating?
MAHARISHI: The world is already
a changed situation. One would not know
what would have happened between the power blocs if
Transcendental
Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the
world.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
What do you do for play?
MAHARISHI:
The whole life is play.
REPORTER:
What do you do for amusement?
MAHARISHI:
Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the
unified field, laws
of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the
courses. I am
doing two things. One, creating a softness in world
consciousness.
Second, training leadership.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
Is what you are doing a game?
MAHARISHI:
It's a game.
REPORTER: Do you ever sit back
and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years.
I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good
player?'
MAHARISHI: I don't play in
the past. I always play in the present for a good
future.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
Do you want to take over the world?
MAHARISHI:
I have taken over already!
REPORTER:
How do you expect people to take you
seriously?
MAHARISHI: I don't because
that is damage to my own message. Serious means under
stress.
REPORTER: You don't think
that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling
people?
MAHARISHI: Those people who
don't know better are always
fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers
with this
message.
REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil
salesman?
MAHARISHI: What is a snake
oil?
REPORTER: A panacea. Something
that will solve all the ills of the world.
MAHARISHI:
Then this is it!
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
If we sent in an outside person not connected with you
to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]?
MAHARISHI:
No one is not connected with me.
REPORTER:
Where did you get your modesty?
MAHARISHI:
It's simplicity.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
Do people create when they're sitting around
feeling happiness bubble
up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a
miserable
life and created very much?
MAHARISHI:
He could have created much more if the environment was
less stressed.
REPORTER: But he wrote about
stress. He would have had nothing to write about if there
hadn't been stress.
MAHARISHI: One could write
about a pond, but that doesn't justify the existence of
the pond or its utility.
* * * * * * *
REPORTER:
But you claim credit for meditating suffering
away?
MAHARISHI: Right.
Exactly.
REPORTER: Have you no
shame?
MAHARISHI: No shame, no
weakness, no failure.
End of interview
~Washington Post -- November 1983~
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One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You can tell that Dick Mays is actually *proud* of these answers. Try reading through this interview while substituting the name of any famous psychopath or megalomanic for MAHARISHI and you've got the same answers. If they'd seen these answers coming from anyone else, they would have been able to see how crazy they are. But because they're coming from him, they'll interpret them as enlightened wisdom. My favorite is highlighted in red below. From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if they use their brain properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field -- the infinity of nature will make them capable of not only earning their ordinary bread but very first-class bread. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you think about the arms race and nuclear war? MAHARISHI: Arms race will not be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of life, and that we can eliminate completely. * * * * * * * REPORTER: You have written that by meditating, man brings out his own sense of divinity in himself. MAHARISHI: Right, we can talk divinity. REPORTER: What about someone like Hitler. If he had meditated? MAHARISHI: He would have been more positive. REPORTER: You really think you can change people's natures by meditating? MAHARISHI: The world is already a changed situation. One would not know what would have happened between the power blocs if Transcendental Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the world. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you do for play? MAHARISHI: The whole life is play. REPORTER: What do you do for amusement? MAHARISHI: Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the unified field, laws of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the courses. I am doing two things. One, creating a softness in world consciousness. Second, training leadership. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Is what you are doing a game? MAHARISHI: It's a game. REPORTER: Do you ever sit back and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years. I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good player?' MAHARISHI: I don't play in the past. I always play in the present for a good future. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do you want to take over the world? MAHARISHI: I have taken over already! REPORTER: How do you expect people to take you seriously? MAHARISHI: I don't because that is damage to my own message. Serious means under stress. REPORTER: You don't think that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling people? MAHARISHI: Those people who don't know better are always fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers with this message. REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil salesman? MAHARISHI: What is a snake oil? REPORTER: A panacea. Something that will solve all the ills of the world. MAHARISHI: Then this is it! * * * * * * * REPORTER: If we sent in an outside person not connected with you to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]? MAHARISHI: No one is not connected with me. REPORTER: Where did you get your modesty? MAHARISHI: It's simplicity. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do people create when they're sitting around feeling happiness bubble up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a miserable life and created very much? MAHARISHI: He could have created much more if the environment was less stressed. REPORTER: But he wrote about stress. He would have had nothing to write about if there hadn't been stress. MAHARISHI: One could write about a pond, but that doesn't justify the existence of the pond or its utility. * * * * * * * REPORTER: But you claim credit for meditating suffering away? MAHARISHI: Right. Exactly. REPORTER: Have you no shame? MAHARISHI: No shame, no weakness, no failure. End of interview ~Washington Post-- November 1983~ * * * * * * * TM Media Alert (Israel): Meital Dohan bringing TM to Israeli soldiers --
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
I wouldn't call his answers enlightened wisdom, but a lot of them are clever and funny. One would have to be a real sourpuss not to find them charming, even if one were a True Unbeliever. Barry hasn't had the chance to spill his bile for three whole days. Expect a veritable flood in the week ahead. One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You can tell that Dick Mays is actually *proud* of these answers. Try reading through this interview while substituting the name of any famous psychopath or megalomanic for MAHARISHI and you've got the same answers. If they'd seen these answers coming from anyone else, they would have been able to see how crazy they are. But because they're coming from him, they'll interpret them as enlightened wisdom. My favorite is highlighted in red below. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if they use their brain properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field -- the infinity of nature will make them capable of not only earning their ordinary bread but very first-class bread. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you think about the arms race and nuclear war? MAHARISHI: Arms race will not be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of life, and that we can eliminate completely. * * * * * * * REPORTER: You have written that by meditating, man brings out his own sense of divinity in himself. MAHARISHI: Right, we can talk divinity. REPORTER: What about someone like Hitler. If he had meditated? MAHARISHI: He would have been more positive. REPORTER: You really think you can change people's natures by meditating? MAHARISHI: The world is already a changed situation. One would not know what would have happened between the power blocs if Transcendental Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the world. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you do for play? MAHARISHI: The whole life is play. REPORTER: What do you do for amusement? MAHARISHI: Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the unified field, laws of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the courses. I am doing two things. One, creating a softness in world consciousness. Second, training leadership. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Is what you are doing a game? MAHARISHI: It's a game. REPORTER: Do you ever sit back and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years. I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good player?' MAHARISHI: I don't play in the past. I always play in the present for a good future. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do you want to take over the world? MAHARISHI: I have taken over already! REPORTER: How do you expect people to take you seriously? MAHARISHI: I don't because that is damage to my own message. Serious means under stress. REPORTER: You don't think that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling people? MAHARISHI: Those people who don't know better are always fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers with this message. REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil salesman? MAHARISHI: What is a snake oil? REPORTER: A panacea. Something that will solve all the ills of the world. MAHARISHI: Then this is it! * * * * * * * REPORTER: If we sent in an outside person not connected with you to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]? MAHARISHI: No one is not connected with me. REPORTER: Where did you get your modesty? MAHARISHI: It's simplicity. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do people create when they're sitting around feeling happiness bubble up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a miserable life and created very much? MAHARISHI: He could have created much more if the environment was less stressed. REPORTER: But he wrote about stress. He would have had nothing to write about if there hadn't been stress. MAHARISHI: One could write about a pond, but that doesn't justify the existence of the pond or its utility. * * * * * * * REPORTER: But you claim credit for
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It's always interesting to read the comments from the Turq regarding cults. Please remember that he is the only poster here here with extensive experience in a cult. That of a Buddhist who claimed he was an incarnation of Vishnu and later killed himself wearing a dog-collar around his neck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You can tell that Dick Mays is actually *proud* of these answers. Try reading through this interview while substituting the name of any famous psychopath or megalomanic for MAHARISHI and you've got the same answers. If they'd seen these answers coming from anyone else, they would have been able to see how crazy they are. But because they're coming from him, they'll interpret them as enlightened wisdom. My favorite is highlighted in red below. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if they use their brain properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field -- the infinity of nature will make them capable of not only earning their ordinary bread but very first-class bread. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you think about the arms race and nuclear war? MAHARISHI: Arms race will not be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of life, and that we can eliminate completely. * * * * * * * REPORTER: You have written that by meditating, man brings out his own sense of divinity in himself. MAHARISHI: Right, we can talk divinity. REPORTER: What about someone like Hitler. If he had meditated? MAHARISHI: He would have been more positive. REPORTER: You really think you can change people's natures by meditating? MAHARISHI: The world is already a changed situation. One would not know what would have happened between the power blocs if Transcendental Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the world. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you do for play? MAHARISHI: The whole life is play. REPORTER: What do you do for amusement? MAHARISHI: Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the unified field, laws of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the courses. I am doing two things. One, creating a softness in world consciousness. Second, training leadership. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Is what you are doing a game? MAHARISHI: It's a game. REPORTER: Do you ever sit back and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years. I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good player?' MAHARISHI: I don't play in the past. I always play in the present for a good future. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do you want to take over the world? MAHARISHI: I have taken over already! REPORTER: How do you expect people to take you seriously? MAHARISHI: I don't because that is damage to my own message. Serious means under stress. REPORTER: You don't think that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling people? MAHARISHI: Those people who don't know better are always fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers with this message. REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil salesman? MAHARISHI: What is a snake oil? REPORTER: A panacea. Something that will solve all the ills of the world. MAHARISHI: Then this is it! * * * * * * * REPORTER: If we sent in an outside person not connected with you to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]? MAHARISHI: No one is not connected with me. REPORTER: Where did you get your modesty? MAHARISHI: It's simplicity. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do people create when they're sitting around feeling happiness bubble up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a miserable life and created very much? MAHARISHI: He could have created much more if the environment was less stressed. REPORTER: But he wrote about stress. He would have had nothing to write about if there hadn't been stress. MAHARISHI: One could write about a pond, but that doesn't justify the existence of the pond or its utility. * * * *
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H when asked about the *arms* race, M was in effect saying *guns don't kill people, people kill people. On Monday, April 28, 2014 6:03 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's always interesting to read the comments from the Turq regarding cults. Please remember that he is the only poster here here with extensive experience in a cult. That of a Buddhist who claimed he was an incarnation of Vishnu and later killed himself wearing a dog-collar around his neck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You can tell that Dick Mays is actually *proud* of these answers. Try reading through this interview while substituting the name of any famous psychopath or megalomanic for MAHARISHI and you've got the same answers. If they'd seen these answers coming from anyone else, they would have been able to see how crazy they are. But because they're coming from him, they'll interpret them as enlightened wisdom. My favorite is highlighted in red below. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if they use their brain properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field -- the infinity of nature will make them capable of not only earning their ordinary bread but very first-class bread. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you think about the arms race and nuclear war? MAHARISHI: Arms race will not be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of life, and that we can eliminate completely. * * * * * * * REPORTER: You have written that by meditating, man brings out his own sense of divinity in himself. MAHARISHI: Right, we can talk divinity. REPORTER: What about someone like Hitler. If he had meditated? MAHARISHI: He would have been more positive. REPORTER: You really think you can change people's natures by meditating? MAHARISHI: The world is already a changed situation. One would not know what would have happened between the power blocs if Transcendental Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the world. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you do for play? MAHARISHI: The whole life is play. REPORTER: What do you do for amusement? MAHARISHI: Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the unified field, laws of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the courses. I am doing two things. One, creating a softness in world consciousness. Second, training leadership. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Is what you are doing a game? MAHARISHI: It's a game. REPORTER: Do you ever sit back and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years. I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good player?' MAHARISHI: I don't play in the past. I always play in the present for a good future. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do you want to take over the world? MAHARISHI: I have taken over already! REPORTER: How do you expect people to take you seriously? MAHARISHI: I don't because that is damage to my own message. Serious means under stress. REPORTER: You don't think that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling people? MAHARISHI: Those people who don't know better are always fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers with this message. REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil salesman? MAHARISHI: What is a snake oil? REPORTER: A panacea. Something that will solve all the ills of the world. MAHARISHI: Then this is it! * * * * * * * REPORTER: If we sent in an outside person not connected with you to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]? MAHARISHI: No one is not connected with me. REPORTER: Where did you get your modesty? MAHARISHI: It's simplicity. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do people create when they're sitting around feeling happiness bubble up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a miserable life and created very much? MAHARISHI: He could have created much more if the environment was less stressed. REPORTER: But he
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On 4/28/2014 7:22 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You are really working late tonight! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/28/2014 7:22 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. Or how one former cult member can find a way to turn anything their former cult leader says into a negative or a lie. You are really working late tonight! This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
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On 4/28/2014 7:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Barry hasn't had the chance to spill his bile for three whole days. Expect a veritable flood in the week ahead.* These days it seems the main purpose of a discussion group is to vent one's anger and complain about the past. While these kinds of online groups were never very warm and cuddly, it seems that in the last year or so the redundant hate mail on FFL has increased a lot. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Dick, this is vintage Maharishi, thanks for posting. I've seen or heard similar interviews and what always gets to me is Maharishi's simplicity and practicality. And total lack of sarcasm, meanness, etc. On Monday, April 28, 2014 6:48 AM, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote: REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer, if they use their brain properly -- this is the Technology of the Unified Field -- the infinity of nature will make them capable of not only earning their ordinary bread but very first-class bread. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you think about the arms race and nuclear war? MAHARISHI: Arms race will not be the cause of nuclear war. Stress will be the cause of nuclear war. Stress is the greatest enemy of life, and that we can eliminate completely. * * * * * * * REPORTER: You have written that by meditating, man brings out his own sense of divinity in himself. MAHARISHI: Right, we can talk divinity. REPORTER: What about someone like Hitler. If he had meditated? MAHARISHI: He would have been more positive. REPORTER: You really think you can change people's natures by meditating? MAHARISHI: The world is already a changed situation. One would not know what would have happened between the power blocs if Transcendental Meditation was not raising the consciousness of the world. * * * * * * * REPORTER: What do you do for play? MAHARISHI: The whole life is play. REPORTER: What do you do for amusement? MAHARISHI: Oh, this is great amusement when I talk about the unified field, laws of nature, when I hear so many people are starting the courses. I am doing two things. One, creating a softness in world consciousness. Second, training leadership. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Is what you are doing a game? MAHARISHI: It's a game. REPORTER: Do you ever sit back and say, 'I've been playing this game for 25 years. I'm a millionaire. Gee, I'm a good player?' MAHARISHI: I don't play in the past. I always play in the present for a good future. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do you want to take over the world? MAHARISHI: I have taken over already! REPORTER: How do you expect people to take you seriously? MAHARISHI: I don't because that is damage to my own message. Serious means under stress. REPORTER: You don't think that you're just pulling off a beautiful job of fooling people? MAHARISHI: Those people who don't know better are always fools, but they will become better thinkers, better knowers with this message. REPORTER: Are you a snake-oil salesman? MAHARISHI: What is a snake oil? REPORTER: A panacea. Something that will solve all the ills of the world. MAHARISHI: Then this is it! * * * * * * * REPORTER: If we sent in an outside person not connected with you to take pictures [of Yogic Flying]? MAHARISHI: No one is not connected with me. REPORTER: Where did you get your modesty? MAHARISHI: It's simplicity. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Do people create when they're sitting around feeling happiness bubble up? How do you explain geniuses like Dostoevski who lived a miserable life and created very much? MAHARISHI: He could have created much more if the environment was less stressed. REPORTER: But he wrote about stress. He would have had nothing to write about if there hadn't been stress. MAHARISHI: One could write about a pond, but that doesn't justify the existence of the pond or its utility. * * * * * * * REPORTER: But you claim credit for meditating suffering away? MAHARISHI: Right. Exactly. REPORTER: Have you no shame? MAHARISHI: No shame, no weakness, no failure. End of interview ~Washington Post-- November 1983~ * * * * * * * TM Media Alert (Israel): Meital Dohan bringing TM to Israeli soldiers -- ConcertBlogger.com (Posted on TM.org) -- April 10, 2014 http://tmhome.com/experiences/meital-dohan-bringing-tm-to-israeli-soldiers/ Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
Just to follow up, I'll tell a Rama story, one that was a major influence in me coming to my senses about him, about his students, and about myself. It was during the anti-cult attack period, which actually was one, because there were an angry group of parents -- egged on by deprogrammers who were trying to get them to pay $50,000 to them to kidnap their sons and daughters -- who actually practiced hard-core blacklisting and smears in the newspapers to try to bring him down. In retrospect, some of the things these people said were true, and some were made up. But at the time, being on the receiving end of the blacklisting and other tactics, naturally some students fell into the You're either with us or against us mindset, and the Rama guy cultivated that 'tude in his students, just as Maharishi did with his self-importance fantasies about the CIA. So in a fit of Narcissistic Personality Disorder squared, the Rama guy actually agreed to be interviewed by Hard Copy, the American TV counterpart of the National Enquirer. Bahd idea, as Ahnold said in Predator. :-) The interviewer 1) had done his homework, and 2) was in a wheelchair. It was a bloodbath. I remember watching it with a group of Rama students, and what I remember most clearly was their reaction. The interviewer would ask, Have you ever told students to break with their parents, and have nothing more to do with them if they don't support them studying with you. He looked straight into the camera, and said, No. The interviewer asked other things, like, Have you ever referred to yourself as one of the only 12 fully enlightened beings on the planet. Again, the Rama guy looked at the interviewer, and through the lens at millions of people, and said, Of course not. People in the room just ate this up with a spoon. Most of them had been in rooms when he said these things, or had heard them said to them personally. Many of them had audio tapes in their possession where he had been recorded saying them. I asked some of them about this afterwards, and how they felt about him lying to both the interviewer and to millions of viewers, and the answer I got was (I shit you not), What does it matter what he says to them. They don't matter. They're not us. Pretty much at that moment I realized that I wasn't one of us any more. True Believers can find a way to write off ANYTHING that other people would perceive as craziness or lying or absolute megalomania because it's coming from the mouth of someone they have been conditioned to believe, no matter what. I repeat my first take on these quotes from Maharishi. Many of them are fuckin' Looney Toons. But to people who have been conditioned to see him as essentially perfect, they're perfect. And there is nothing that anyone can do or say that will convince them that *they're* not the sane ones, and that everyone else is *wrong*. In fact, because their egos get *larger* as a result of criticism, they'll believe even more strongly than they did before. It's just one of those mysteries of being human, I guess. Go figure. Go fuckin' figure. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts One of the most fascinating things I've found about the cult mindset is how they can find a way to turn anything their cult leader says into a positive. You can tell that Dick Mays is actually *proud* of these answers. Try reading through this interview while substituting the name of any famous psychopath or megalomanic for MAHARISHI and you've got the same answers. If they'd seen these answers coming from anyone else, they would have been able to see how crazy they are. But because they're coming from him, they'll interpret them as enlightened wisdom. My favorite is highlighted in red below. From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts REPORTER: You're not doing much to disabuse me of the notion that you're just a P.T. Barnum of the psychic set. MAHARISHI: What does this mean? REPORTER: That you're a natural salesman. MAHARISHI: Very right. I think I have something salable. REPORTER: What are you selling? MAHARISHI: Natural law and the simplest level of consciousness where everything is spontaneously supported by nature. If people buy this product, they're better off. * * * * * * * REPORTER: Why don't you raise money and distribute it to needy people? Would this not be a more effective way to bring about change? MAHARISHI: No, no, it's not the money that can make one happy. REPORTER: How can Third World people think about their consciousness when they're hungry? MAHARISHI: By using that hardware of the cosmic computer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
Lenz may well have been interviewed by Hard Copy at some point, but the reporter in the wheelchair was crack journalist John Hockenberry interviewing Lenz on Dateline NBC. When I saw the tapes, I couldn't believe how phony Lenz came across. Just as an aside: If one isn't a terminal tightass, it's entirely possible to appreciate charm and wit and general cleverness without necessarily believing the charmer is perfect. As it happens, in these transcripts the comparison of Maharishi with Lenz regarding these qualities is not, to say the least, in Lenz's favor. So in a fit of Narcissistic Personality Disorder squared, the Rama guy actually agreed to be interviewed by Hard Copy, the American TV counterpart of the National Enquirer. Bahd idea, as Ahnold said in Predator. :-) The interviewer 1) had done his homework, and 2) was in a wheelchair. It was a bloodbath.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi interview excerpts
Barry, I get that you are not into dialogue. That suits me fine. But do you realize how invested you are into a narrative that seeks to portray anyone who doesn't feel as you do, a True Believer? For example, you have this notion that anyone's take on these questions, other than yours has surrendered all faculties of discrimination, and is, by default, a True Believer Anyway, that's your privilege, but you've become sort of the mirror image to someone like Nabby, in that you have this knee jerk reaction to find a justification for your conclusions even if they don't make a lot of sense. So, slow down, everything's still here just as you left it a few days ago, for King's Day. Nobody suffered by not having their buttons constantly pushed. You don't have to get frantic about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I repeat my first take on these quotes from Maharishi. Many of them are fuckin' Looney Toons. But to people who have been conditioned to see him as essentially perfect, they're perfect. And there is nothing that anyone can do or say that will convince them that *they're* not the sane ones, and that everyone else is *wrong*. In fact, because their egos get *larger* as a result of criticism, they'll believe even more strongly than they did before. It's just one of those mysteries of being human, I guess. Go figure. Go fuckin' figure.
