Re: [farsiweb]Kurdish Language

2003-04-05 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Shervin Afshar wrote:

I believe that Kurdi language has not a written
 form and it uses farsi script.

No, you're wrong. It indeed has a written form and has some special
letters only used in Kurdish. I can't point to a specific resource (I am 
indeed searching for experts), but I have seen Kurdish books.

roozbeh

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[farsiweb]Unicode Advertisement

2003-04-05 Thread Roozbeh Pournader

Hong Kong [Special Administrative Region] government is advocating
ISO 10646 (a.k.a. Unicode) by creating flash animations:

http://www.info.gov.hk/digital21/eng/images/cli/iso.swf

Funny!

roozbeh

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Re: [farsiweb]Kurdish Language

2003-04-05 Thread Okhtay Ilghami
As far as I know, they have six special characters:

1 - Ye with a hat to represent e:
2 - Vav with a hat to represent o
3 - Lam with a hat to represent some weird form of l
4 - Vav with three dots on it to represent v (which is different 
from w, represented by Vav itself). Note the difference with 
Persian, where there is almost no w and Vav represents v.
5 - Tu Vavs attached to eachother to represent u:.
6 - Re with a dot beneath it to represent some weird form of r.

Roozbeh Pournader wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Shervin Afshar wrote:

 

  I believe that Kurdi language has not a written
form and it uses farsi script.
   

No, you're wrong. It indeed has a written form and has some special
letters only used in Kurdish. I can't point to a specific resource (I am 
indeed searching for experts), but I have seen Kurdish books.

roozbeh

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[farsiweb]Unicode character names (was Re: Unicode Advertisement)

2003-04-05 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

 If unicode is so scrupulously attentive to details of standardization,
 why is the naming scheme so haphazard?

Because of very tight constraints set by ISO, and a requirement of ISO
that the names stay the same forever, even if mistakes are found in them.  
Standards need to guarantee stabilities to some degree in order to be
implemented, and character names looked one of the promising cases.

 The names of the Arabic letters are based on their Arabic *colloquial*
 names (yeh instead of ya, heh instead of ha).

The naming system is here because of the need for backward compatibility.  
Actually, ISO defines two characters in two different standard character
sets to be the same thing if their name is exactly the same. So, all the
character names got inherited automatically from ISO 8859 series of
standards. ISO 8859-6 (Arabic/Latin) used those names (I don't know why),
so ISO 10646 and Unicode inherited them directly.

 For example, Arabic letter Farsi Yeh. And the use of Farsi hasn't
 been fixed after all the learned debates??

Once again, the letter was named like that in some old ISO standard about
extended Arabic letters, and the name stuck.

ISO and Unicode Consortium both use Persian when they refer to the name
of the language. Farsi is sometimes used in the parentheses, to tell
those who don't know about the politics involved to know that these are
the same thing.

roozbeh

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[farsiweb]Re: [PersianComputing] Unicode character names (was Re: UnicodeAdvertisement)

2003-04-05 Thread C Bobroff
  and a requirement of ISO
 that the names stay the same forever, even if mistakes are found in them.
 Standards need to guarantee stabilities to some degree in order to be
 implemented, and character names looked one of the promising cases.

I see now! Thank you once again for the enlightenment.  I only wish I'd
asked earlier.

-Connie

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