Re: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

 For whatever they're worth, they're here as PDF files:
 
 http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/roman.html

That only mentions there is only one Kurdish letter not already in 
Persian. But we know a lot of accent marks are used, while the above 
reference only mentions one of the cases in an extra note.

I won't consult it.

roozbeh

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Re: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-14 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:

 On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:

  For comparison, European keyboards or the US-International keyboard also
  do not include standalone versions of all accents, and use many keys
  (accent keys and others) with a deadkey function to generate accented
  characters.

Remember that accents are different from HARAKATs.  An A  
character with caron is quite different from A, so when you
push backspace after the combination, you wish that the A with 
the caron is deleted.  But when you put a FATHE after a SHIN, 
they are two different characters, and SHIN is the same in both a 
single SHIN, and a SHIN with FATHE above.  When pushing 
backspace, you expect that the FATHE is deleted, but not the 
SHEEN...


 Just for the record, I oppose any deadkey mechanism for any Arabic
 script keyboard layout. The notion is rather complicated, and is only 
 familiar to the Europeans. Asian people are used to live keys instead, the 
 ones that appear after the letter.
 
 roozbeh

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RE: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-14 Thread Linguasoft
Remember that accents are different from HARAKATs.

We only discussed combining symbols (hamza  madda), not short vowels.

Peter


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Re: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-13 Thread C Bobroff
  I may help you with information from ALA-LC (American Library
  Association/Library of Congress) containing exact lists of characters,
  alongside with standard transliterations, for all languages you are
  interested in.

For whatever they're worth, they're here as PDF files:

http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/roman.html

-Connie

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