Re: Leonidas - Lion for single screens
On 05/09/2009 03:17 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the lion on single screens * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers and you can get them from koji [1]. leonidas-background-dual is needed by leonidas-background-lion? That doesn't make much sense. I don't have a dual screen and I just want to install the background for the single screen. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 DVD label, how does this look like?
Jayme Ayres wrote: Wow can you send me a... hu 20.000 cd/dvd? lol! With a low cost of production like that will not produce interesting the media in India and send them to the Americas and Europe? We could but the cost advantage of producing in India will probably be lost in the distribution cost to other countries. Production cost has never really been a problem for us. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Wanted: a Graphic Designer
Hi http://loupgaroublond.blogspot.com/2009/04/wanted-graphic-designer.html The Ohio Linux Fest team is looking for a volunteer to do some graphic design for the upcoming conference in 2009. From what i gathered, the primary job would be to maintain a consistent look across materials distributed and create any logos or other graphic design work needed Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner
Paolo Leoni wrote: Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the beta release banner: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's wallpaper mockup. Like the second one, way better. Text is more readable and it matches the beta release wallpaper. Thank you, for working on this. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
A Visual Desktop Tour of 10 Fedora Releases
Hi, Interesting to look back at the changes http://www.junauza.com/2008/11/visual-desktop-tour-of-10-fedora.html A Visual Desktop Tour of 10 Fedora Releases Fedora is without doubt one of the most prolific Linux distributions around. In the span of only 5 years, the Fedora Project has already unleashed 10 major versions of Fedora. Let's take a trip down memory lane and have a visual desktop tour of this wonderful distro starting from its inaugural version that was released on November 6, 2003 until its most recent version that was out just a few days ago. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora 10 preview release shines like a star
Hi, http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/11/06/fedora-10-preview-release-shines-like-a-star I tested the preview release in VirtualBox using the GNOME Live CD installer. I was particularly impressed with the high quality of the new desktop wallpaper image, which comes from the Solar artwork theme. The whole user experience felt amazingly polished. Fedora 10 is really shaping up nicely and feels like its going to be a very strong update Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)
Mike McGrath wrote: Perhaps they should also register themselves via the bottom of this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page Create an IRC channel at #fedora-desktop and get involved. FWIW, I've never heard of a Fedora Desktop team. Well, there is already a #fedora-desktop channel. Unfortunately it is in Gimpnet instead of Freenode and tends to be more disconnected from the Fedora community as a result but the Fedora desktop team believes that that since they are build around GNOME, the advantage of a better connection with the upstream community outweighs the disadvantages. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Solar backrounds - enable by default?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Bill Nottingham wrote: Martin Sourada ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: We need to enable them by default, I believe Mo is taking care of it? There's one concern though - the size of the package is 37.4 MiB. Is there a chance to make it smaller, or is it the best we can achieve? That may be an issue for the livecd. The existing desktop-backgrounds package (that's put on the livecd, and includes the waves images) is 14MB. So the ones we have are very high resolution. We could scale them down to smaller more common resolutions and I am sure save a lot of space. But if people want to install the higher resolution ones, (say for a 30 monitor or dual screens) what's the best way to package that? We can split up the high res ones into a separate sub package so it is available in the repo but not installed by default. Live CD is always cramped for space so we need to be careful there. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, most of you probably know, but I'll write it again - Echo Icon Theme is the default icon theme in F10 since Beta (for testing purposes and exposition to wider audience) and I am one of the feature owners. The change is rather small (in that it does not break things, replaces just graphics, no code) but pretty much exposed. I'd like to make clear that we are not going to go against general opinion and I deem it natural for the Art (since it's art) and Desktop (since it's going to be default in Gnome Desktop) Teams to decide whether we are ready or not. Because of the nature of the change it is IMHO possible to make the decision last minute (i.e. around the development freeze). What I'd like to ask you now is the preferred way to decide upon it. Should we hold a irc meeting, do a mail vote, set up a vote in the fedora voting system, other way? I'd prefer the vote in the fedora voting system (opened for Art and Desktop team members only), but if you think otherwise would be better, don't hesitate to suggest. I also think that about three or four days for the vote should be enough, so I propose the voting dates to be set to 2008/10/23--2008/10/26. Is that OK with you? Thanks for your comments, Since FESCo already made the decision that it sticks if the coverage is good enough, what does the current status look like for the base icons? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves
Jarod Wen wrote: Hi all, I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd, one for the install dvd. The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9. Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate to give me any suggestions to improve the source files. You can find them from the link: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to keep that in mind. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
GIMP 2.6 packages
Hi RPM packages http://www.nabble.com/GIMP-2.6.0-for-Fedora-8-9-(Was:-Re:-ANNOUNCE:-GIMP-2.6.0)-p19815879.html Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: fedora forum banner
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Fedora forum just got upgraded recently. I took some opportunity to redesign the banner by replacing the fedora hat with the logo. forum word is using MgOpen Modata typeface and the background will remain the same. I would like to verify if the banner is legal and can be used on Fedora forum. You will see the current banner and the concept. I would strongly recommending taking this opportunity to replace the blue hat with something else. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Martin Sourada wrote: Apart from that, while gnome icon theme strives to be default icon theme gnome-wide, echo would like to be default fedora-wide (in the future). It has the caveats that we need to maintain some amount of compatibility with both gnome icon theme (gnome default) and oxygen icon theme (KDE4 default) to keep the dissonances low. Also it has the pros that we can better focus on covering fedora/redhat specific apps, like system-config-* that the other icon themes are overlooking/ignoring. One of the things it can help fix is gaps in the icon theme specification as well. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Ech0] Features for Fedora 10 Beta
Andreas Nilsson wrote: The reason for my concerns was because some kind of predictability in the look of feel across distros was the reason Mozilla agreed to do Linux visual integration in the first place (the alternative was keep on using the WinXP style). http://www.beltzner.ca/mike/archives/2007/10/11/giving_the_penguin_a_makeover.html Predictability can only be achieved by having everyone adopt the same look which I don't think is going to happen. What you really want is integration instead. Mozilla integrates well with the current theme (atleast for GNOME and Xfce) which is what we really want ISV's to be doing as well. You can clearly see that the current icon and set is being used by Firefox in the different screenshots from Fedora, Ubuntu etc. If they don't do proper integration and simply copy and use some icons, I would consider this a con for the ISV's. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Last-minute request - any packagers for wallpapers in beta?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Samuele Storari wrote: Hi mairin, If u give me 10 minute i will upload a larger image of invinXble. Can I? Please do although no one thus far has volunteered to do the packaging work. Is this supposed to be a new package or a modifying of a existing one? If so, which one? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good news about Echo
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Fesco has accepted echo-icon-theme as default icon theme for Fedora 10.[1] Which means we need to push harder to include as many icons as possible using guideline and echo-artist tool now available on rawhide and is waiting for people to get them on both Fedora 8 and 9[2]. To get more details about echo-icon-theme, please visit the website[3]. Good move. Was comps.xml updated to reflect the new default in rawhide? Any communication with the desktop and kde teams? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 01:27 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: So let's get both artwork and desktop team decide by consensus to include echo-icon-theme as default iconset for Fedora 10. It is used not only on fedora project wiki but alsoo smolt, transifex and fedora-fr.org. It will be an opportunity to get feedback. Luya Just for information, nodoka-notification-theme wasn't accepted by Fesco as feature, even though they seem to be OK with the change (so we changed it recently). It seems like artwork things are preferred to be decided by the Art Team rather than Fesco. I have a feeling it might be same for Echo. In this case I personally think Echo should be put on evaluation by Art Team and Desktop Team. If both agree it's ready for default we can roll it in ;-) The thing is, we haven't decided what we expect from default icon theme. How big the coverage needs to be, what needs to be covered, ... Some information on the current % would be good. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: InvinXble Updates
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Creative Commons works have to be CC-BY or CC-BY-SA only to be compatible with Fedora. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 -ND and -NC can't be allowed unfortunately. According to that page, Fedora is also OK with -ND, even the this is not considered Free by FSF, only -NC is forbidden (but it is a good thing to avoid -ND, something like Samuele's derivation would not permitted by -ND). Speaking of -ND, the only place where I think it may fit is the Wallpaper Extras gallery, for photos, but even there is makes things more complicated, so it is not forbidden but not recommended either. Note that the licensing list is not based on just the art project requirements. ND may be good enough for things like game content. If art work project wants to only permit content which allows derivative work, that's a choice they have. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: InvinXble Updates
Máirín Duffy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that the licensing list is not based on just the art project requirements. ND may be good enough for things like game content. If art work project wants to only permit content which allows derivative work, that's a choice they have. Yeh but it is completely infeasible to use an ND licensed source image in your derivative work! It just doesn't make sense. Right. I was just saying artwork as a sub-project can limit the licensing sub-set to what makes sense here. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Tracking logo approval requests
Hi, Do we have a instance of RT or trac setup to keep track of logo requests? If not, should we? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Tracking logo approval requests
Máirín Duffy wrote: Does anyone else want to help me with the queue? Last time I checked, no. I'd rather not uproot my system (thunderbird templates), which while manual actually works quite well for me, if there's no good reason to. I think there is value in having a public and more transparent record of logo approvals(besides your mailbox) regardless of how many people are processing the queue. Hopefully the revised trademark guidelines (in progress) would reduce the need for this process for the most part. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F-10 Feature?] Nodoka notification theme
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates, battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to create a Feature page for it. It is a visible change and requires testing from more folks. I guess that would qualify for making it a feature. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora10 Theme Proposal
Nicu Buculei wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Klaatu and Gort wrote: Thanks! And happily, the background color is highly flexible and easily changed. But surely you mean too bright not too dark? It seems to me that the backgrounds that I have posted are very light when compared to F9, or to the evening and late-night colors for F8. What I would like to see is the same background in an actual desktop with the panel, menu, desktop icons etc just for the perspective. Uh... right click, save as, change the background, look at it a couple of seconds and return to your previous one? Of course but I was talking about publishing screenshots for more than myself from the folks proposing themes. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora10 Theme Proposal
Klaatu and Gort wrote: Chitlesh, Thanks! And happily, the background color is highly flexible and easily changed. But surely you mean too bright not too dark? It seems to me that the backgrounds that I have posted are very light when compared to F9, or to the evening and late-night colors for F8. What I would like to see is the same background in an actual desktop with the panel, menu, desktop icons etc just for the perspective. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Pencil project - Sketching tool
Hi Maybe this will come in handy. http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/Home.html Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT
Klaatu and Gort wrote: Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is? IIRC, all of the artwork is GPL or dual licensed under GPL/ Creative Commons attribution share alike license. At any rate, remixing is explicitly allowed for any Fedora artwork as long as you give credit. So reusing the artwork while putting a note somewhere on the original source should do. Rahul PS: Avoid thread hijacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: banners are out of date
Nicu Buculei wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners This seams out of date. We have some stuff at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-c413338cfdab301bf0ff45506306034e18b66903 Can you please merge them? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog
Mark wrote: sad that things so simple need to be done upstream while fedora patches away anything that might give them patent issues. lust look at normal codecs that work for everyone (mpeg, mp3 you name it). In many cases, we don't need to patch anything or we can upstream the patches where the functionality gets separated as plugins. This is the case with gstreamer plugins as an example. A longer explanation is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream Rahul Ps: I still think that the themed dialog should be the default but that is a different argument. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 XFCE
Pavel Shevchuk wrote: That's really interesting question. GNOME is maintained by general Desktop SIG, KDE is maintained by KDE SIG, but everything else is just put in repository without much additional love. Seeing how popular XFCE is on low horsepower computers like EeePC, this raises question - shouldn't we have XFCE SIG? Well, I maintain the Xfce spin and there is just two people working on packaging Xfce. We usually sort things out in bugzilla or IRC. I discussed briefly the idea of a SIG but that hasn't happened yet. If anyone is interested in contributing, I can create one. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 XFCE
Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 02:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ok. We are running a informal poll in fedora-devel list to estimate interest in this. Let's see. Rahul Should I join fedora-devel list? If you want offer your comments on this, sure. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: revised f9 wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of the rest of the artwork. This is one of the ideas I've been working with - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? What people didn't seem to like was the flames on top. The original sulphuric waves gray wallpaper and associated artwork was very good IMO. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: revised f9 wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey Luya, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: It looks like a underwater view of the wave. I think these wave needs to be dynamic i.e spreading toward. It will be also an opportunity to take advantage of the script Matthias created from Fedora 7 where the wave varies weekly. The effects should be subtle. Máirín, do you have the svg version? I will give a try tonight. That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and I'll send it here. One thing though, when working with this file you've gotta put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow your machine to a halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the command line, eg: inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: revised f9 wallpaper
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 02:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. Animated backgrounds should not be significantly slower at initial loading, unless you make them change at sub-second rate... (somewhat OT) I haven't really run any benchmarks or anything but the new GDM does seem to load slower on a few systems I am running rawhide on including this laptop. If you need any more information that can help fix it, let me know. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept
Andy Fitzsimon wrote: okay so I love the idea of growing flying high.. BUUUT What about our distro remixing culture? Simple: I was thinking I could draw on a torrent of waves Rationale: Fedora 9 is going to be doing a lot of things, for alot of different people, all at once. This potential should occupy the minds of our users. How do we involve it in our artwork? For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and a portal to the web ! Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, flooding in one direction. lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon itself.. forming a 9 shape The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes of water... think the ocean lets play. ive attached a svg! This is cool. I like it a lot. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas
Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other interesting concepts: I played a bit with gears. Attached are two completely different implementations (there is still *a lot* of room remaining for further polishing) of the gear concept (loseless versions, sources available at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/splash/). Nice but please drop the text. I am adding a new rule to the artwork page about this. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears The focus of this theme is technology: technology advancement is one of Fedora's main goals and gears are a classic metaphor for technology. A secondary message of the theme is the golden era of Fedora: we are so confident in our distro that we think Fedora 10 is (will be) the distro marking the start of the golden age of Linux (and, of course, the best Fedora yet. The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. http://www.enlightenment.org/ Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. OK, we may not be the firs, maybe exclude the original wird from the talk. BTW, those are gears or a sun? (sun - light - enlightenment) Do they use gears in desktop art? That seems to be right. They look somewhat similar but they probably denote sun rather than gears. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas
Mark wrote: @Nicu Doesn't theme talk cover everything you see (including wallpapers and nodoka). The discussion for themes that are release specific does not include the window manager theme. You should post ideas on Nodoka separately. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Release counter for F9
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jon Stanley wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see two possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It would look fairly bad to turn back the clock when/if we slip. This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen even in the last week) about the date. I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do we have anyone here connected to it? CC'ing rel-eng. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: logo and such
Ian Weller wrote: I was wondering: who came up with the current Fedora logo (the f with the infinity symbol)? -- ian Answered at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Is anyone working on a display manager theme for Waves yet? For F7 and F8, we (KDE SIG) have ported the GDM themes to KDM, but I don't see any GDM theme on the F9 final artwork page yet. To anyone working on this: be warned that both GDM and KDM changed significantly between F8 and F9, so please don't design against the F8 versions. Atleast for GDM, there is no requirement for any separate theme under the new design IIUC. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-February/msg00042.html KDE SIG probably would have to do its own thing. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where to ask for Help?
Frank Murphy wrote: Sorry for the bandwidth. Who can I get some help\advice from about getting apps Firstly into rpms (fedora specs), and, eventually into Fedora Project, as they mature. Looking at : http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/ http://innerworld.sourceforge.net/index.html If you wiki access, add them to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList If you want to maintain them yourself, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves
Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached it to the page [1]. I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to splashes (the deadline is coming). So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... Gray. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Xfce Spin - Look and feel, Nodoka issues
Hi Some ongoing discussions on #subject at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433152 If folks have any opinions, feel free to share them as comments in the bugzilla report. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape]
---BeginMessage--- Hi Fedora testers, Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version once it's out. Last prerelease is available for testing and should be stable enough for production use. I submitted it to updates-testing some time prior to stable version so we minimize risk of regressions. Now your assistance and help is needed -- please grab the new version and report any issues you hit with the new version, especially if anything that worked in 0.45 breaks. inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 is pending [1] now. Once it or a later version is pushed you'll be able to install it with yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update inkscape. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 Thanks! -- Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team) -- fedora-test-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list ---End Message--- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape]
Máirín Duffy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version once it's out. Did anyone else test this package? If so, did you have problems using any font other than bitstream vera sans? it won't let me switch fonts. I haven't tested the package but note that Bodhi, the Fedora update system supports a light weight means of providing feedback and karma (positive or negative voting) that determines whether the update should be pushed into the main repository or not. Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package might want to do so. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape]
Nicu Buculei wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 is pending [1] now. Once it or a later version is pushed you'll be able to install it with yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update inkscape. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 I am new to Bodhi, can anyone enlighten me how can I install a package which is pending and was not yet pushed to mirrors? Everytime a maintainer pushes a package, it has to be manually signed and pushed to the repository by the administrators, usually Jesse Keating or Luke Macken. Before it is pushed, the package is available in the Koji build system via the web interface. In this case, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=36251 Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Art Studio Status
Hi, A few questions: * What is the general status of the spin? * What are the base minimum set of packages that we need before we can do a release? * Do we have a explicit wishlist of packages sorted by priority? I am interested in helping out by driving it through the current process for creating spins and maybe help in packaging some applications but the amount of information and links in the wiki is completely overwhelming and I need someone or a team to help me understand the status better. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Mascot Idea....
Chad Bloem wrote: Fedora, I was looking at the Fedora WIKI page and I stumbled across the information regarding the need for a mascot. It mentioned that they wanted an animal design wrapped into the current icon. I slapped together an idea. Máirín Duffy was kind enough to suggest Inkscape (had to figure it out) to clean up the design and pointed me to these email addresses. Got it installed, played with it this afternoon. I have attached it as an SVG. A interesting idea but not one I like. A variation of the Fedora logo would have the same protections as the logo itself and leads to the same issues we are trying to avoid by suggesting the use of a mascot that lends itself to artistic freedoms and creative uses. Keep the mascot completely separate from the logo. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo future
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: @Kelly: tell me, why XFCE can use GNOME's icon themes with success and KDE cannot? Jakub, Please just discuss artwork contributions and ideas here and be polite about it. You insist on creating off-topic threads and flame baits every now and then which is not useful to anyone. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Help with the metaphor... [Fwd: And the F9 codename winner is...]
Nicu Buculei wrote: Can someone help me understand the metaphor behind the Sulphur name? The only thing I can think of is sulphur is somewhat related to dragons and dragons are, like werewolves, mythical creatures. How far am I? Not very far http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Names Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Tangoish Fedora logo in Mist-inherited default icon theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: And that's stupid... Trademarks... Fedora is opensource, yep? So why is it restricted with trademarks? Free and open source licenses cover copyrights and not trademarks. Trademarks are required to protect a brand and the brand is valuable enough to be protected. Otherwise anyone could do a distribution that wipes off hard disks and call it Fedora. There are hundreds of different FOSS projects where the brand is protected including the Linux kernel, Apache, Mozilla Firefox and so on. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Tangoish Fedora logo in Mist-inherited default icon theme
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Dnia 25-01-2008, pią o godzinie 14:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram pisze: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: And that's stupid... Trademarks... Fedora is opensource, yep? So why is it restricted with trademarks? Free and open source licenses cover copyrights and not trademarks. Trademarks are required to protect a brand and the brand is valuable enough to be protected. Otherwise anyone could do a distribution that wipes off hard disks and call it Fedora. There are hundreds of different FOSS projects where the brand is protected including the Linux kernel, Apache, Mozilla Firefox and so on. Thanks to trademarks Iceweasel and Icedove projets started... Because of opensource and trademarks. They were patched Firefox and Thunderbird, until war began. This is a common misconception. Debian's problem with Firefox was trademark primarily but the copyright license of the Firefox logo. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Hi Fedora Art list!
Máirín Duffy wrote: Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Jan 22, 2008 9:02 AM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Fedora TV only for video? It's what I care about...but i think its for images as well. Just depends on what's actually working :- The reason I ask is that this group in particular has been in great need of a better solution for sharing images and their sources other than our wiki which is slow and unreliable. Is there somewhere I can go to find out more about it? Greg Dek Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
Valent Turkovic wrote: It have the ability to bring some really talented people to fedora and they will contribute, but they use proprietary tools (photoshop and the like). Is that forbidden to use non OSS apps in making fedora themes? I heard that before in some post but I wasn't sure so please clarify. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork I don't think it is a rule but using the tools within Fedora is definitely strongly encouraged. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
Steven Garrity wrote: I proposed a seasonal Spring/Fall theme set to coincide with the time-based release schedule of Fedora back in November. I've been trying to create a page for it on the wiki, but I'm having trouble getting my account created (probably my own fault). Are you following http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing? What exactly is the problem you are running into? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A pretty please (regrading Fedora 9 theme)
Valent Turkovic wrote: I have seen this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves and it frightens me if this is going to be the Fedora 9 theme... or anything near this. If these are only sketches then ok. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes clearly highlights that these are theme *concepts* and a couple of previous releases have followed the same schedule. If you have ideas, feel free to propose more concepts like these. You don't have to be an artist to do that but eventually contributions will decide how the final artwork is going to look like. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Imagine
Máirín Duffy wrote: Imagine a theme around this http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/12/19/happyhappyjoyjoy/ Do you want to make this an offical proposal? :) I was thinking of it primarily as another way to convey the idea of freedom. So technically it would just be a part of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom Not exactly that image but the general impressions from it. Our themes have been so far abstract and I think actual people in a photograph or a realistic graphics rendering of a similar image might be a good thing to try. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Idea
Uno Engborg wrote: Matthias Clasen skrev: On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 11:52 -0800, Mark wrote: lock dialog (why it's not styled anymore?). That's exactly what i asked a while ago.. that was in the F8 development cycle.. and a mockup (and even working version) of a themed lock dialog (in full F8 style) was made. guess it somewhere failed to get in the official package. It looked good enough to be included and i believe the idea was to include it in F8. It is included. You just need to turn it on. How? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f8/en_US/sn-Desktop.html#sn-GNOME Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity 24 for KDE
Rex Dieter wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: I made a small --literally-- script that does that (change the background), it is to be used with KDE's advanced desktop options and the 24 pictures that can be found here[1]. The script itself can be found on my fedorapeople[2]. [2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper Can you provide (step-by-step) instructions on how to set this up? Where to download Wallpapers, how to configure the KDE desktop, etc.? Better yet, can we push this functionality in as an update so that KDE by default in Fedora 8 does this? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fwd: F8 Nodoka Engine Animation Disabled by Default]
---BeginMessage--- Hi all, On F7 I had installed the Nodoka engine from source with animation enabled. I liked it enough to create a theme for it, given the dearth of themes available at the time. I posted it on gnome-look for those that might be interested: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nodoka-Charcoal?content=67976 I was curious as to why, on F8, the default RPM is created with animation disabled? I confirmed this looking at the spec file for it here: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/gtk-nodoka-engine/F-8/gtk-nodoka-engine.spec?view=markup There is a note by Martin in version 0.5-2 on July 27, noting that the --enable-animation configure option was removed. Were problems identified or was this an aesthetic decision? I'd like to put forth a motion to restore the animation option, if the latter. Thanks, Marc Schwartz -- fedora-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ---End Message--- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Comment on Nodoka
Hi http://blogs.gnome.org/thos/2007/10/30/fedora-8-in-less-than-9-days/ Sorry about this one, but it’s possibly a little pet peeve. The new GTK+ theme in Fedora 8 is not to my liking at all. It is clearly unfinished (progress bars for example) and the gradients on the buttons look (to me) like blisters on human skin. Not only does it look bad, but I seriously doubt the code quality is as good as the engines in the gtk-engines module. There are a lot of very important things to consider when writing a GTK+ engine, as it will be running on every single GTK+ application. Just look at the number of bug reports and issues associated with Ubuntu’s “Ubuntulooks” engine as an example of what can go wrong (and the original Clearlooks had it’s fair share of very nasty bugs too). The engines in gtk-engines are rigorously tested and very well maintained, so I really don’t see any advantage in using yet another theme engine. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Opinions on icons
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Dnia 13 X 2007 16:06:26, Rahul Sundaram napisał(a): Hi Looks you could get a icon designer contributing. http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=167567 Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I... dislike them, but this is only my opinion. I think we need less opinions like that. The exact nature of the icons themselves aren't as important as the interest to contribute at this stage. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Explaining Spins
Máirín Duffy wrote: Another idea to keep more with the spins remix and DJ kind of terminology: 'spins are like a custom mix tape or DJ set of software available in fedora, lovingly remixed and put together by community members to appeal to specific tastes' and have 3-4 djs with headphones on at the turntables, with music notes and floating paraphenalia associated with the spin, maybe a banner hanging down from each dj table stating what spin it is. What do you folks think? Any other ideas for illustrating quickly what a Fedora spin is? I think we reused this analogy already and we should continue to promote that. http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/ Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Opinions on icons
Hi Looks you could get a icon designer contributing. http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=167567 Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDCon logo
Máirín Duffy wrote: 1 is distinctive but the faces look childish. Is this a little better? http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/logos/fudcon/1a.png This is better yeah but eyes look cold. Maybe add some expression with eye lashes? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDCon logo
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, Let's get this over with and get a final logo, okay? I went through all the feedback and came up with the following set of 5 logos for final consideration, including proposals from Francesco Fantoni, Nicu Buculei, and myself: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/logos/fudcon/fudcon-logos-final.png Which should be *the* logo? Which fits the Fedora 'feel' or 'brand' the best? 1 is distinctive but the faces look childish. I like 2 although the blue seems smeared over the n. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Games Spin: Look and Feel
Nicu Buculei wrote: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/funny/gameover.png with source: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/funny/gameover.svg and a F8 touch: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/funny/gameover_infinity.png This background is too distracting IMO. English text on the background is also not good for L10N reasons. Can we maintain the subtle nature of the default Fedora 8 background while providing a gaming look? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Games Spin: Look and Feel
Hi As you might be aware, the Fedora Games SIG has been working on a games spin of Fedora and we got tentative approval do just that. An early version is planned to be out shortly and another to match the Fedora 8 release. I would like to get some unique look and feel for the games spin which can be as simple as a different background. Can the art team help me with that? We are packaging a wide variety of games but we have a focus on 3D intensive ones since one of the goals of the Live DVD is to test out hardware for performance before you buy them. So keep that in mind and be creative. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: Here is a screenshot that shows some problems with the user list. If you have enough users to make the list scroll, you notice that a) the theming of the scrollbar is not ideal and b) the last item leaks out. It actually overlaps the wrong password messaged that may appear below the list. Thanks Matthias and everyone else for the quick and detailed feedback! I've got a new version that hopefully is better: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.2.tar.gz The amount of options seems to be a bit high and makes the interface appear cluttered and the square big borders appears rigid. I like Steven's mockup at http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/gdm-infinity5.png much better. Thinner borders and the number of options at three seems just right. Fonts colors are less contrasting. The shadows are highlighted better. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Which ones are you seeing? Are you just looking at the screenshot I sent? Because in actual use the 'disconnect' button doesn't actually appear. Are there other buttons you think should go? They don't need to go but a couple of them could be put under a menu if there are more than two or three. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo bad
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: So, Fedora 9 will include Echo icons (surely) As has been said already, that decision will be made depending on how well the theme coverage is among other factors. You might want to avoid making such assertions on your own. Other icon themes can very well exist in parallel with Echo. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: rhgb at shutdown
Jonathan Roberts wrote: On 16/09/2007, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a fedora user for about 2 years now and have never saw RHGB at shutdown. My guess is that there is no graphical shutdown in fedora. You'll not see RHGB on shutdown. Why? Because of X11. X11 cannot be running, when system is becomming level 0/etc. (graphical subsystem is down, services are getting down). There are few chances: migration to bootsplash, splashy, usplash or other. Would there be any possibility of just having a non-verbose shutdown option? i.e. just a blank screen? This is really the wrong list for this discussion. The mechanisms of shutdown or using RHGB have nothing to do with art. fedora-devel or fedora-desktop list is more suitable and it has already been discussed in both. All services don't need to be shutdown mythologically as it happens now and some of them can just be killed without any side effect. Someone will have to look in that which will potentially speed up shutdown. There has also been some discussions on using splashy and what is missing currently at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-August/msg00399.html See some of the related discussions on the same thread for more details. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: rhgb at shutdown
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Would there be any possibility of just having a non-verbose shutdown option? i.e. just a blank screen? I don't know, I'm not developer, but I think it is possible with bootsplash, splashy or usplash (Red Hat will not be satisfied of RHGB removal). On the contrary, that is the plan anyway https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-August/msg00386.html Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art Studio Strategy (was Re: Art Studio Spin?)
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 23:50 +0200, Máirín Duffy wrote: Question: - Should we try to get something out as quickly as possible? Our first version will built strictly from components already in Fedora? If we took this approach would it be too late to make the F8 launch? (I imagine not?) My opinion: not. I think its better to release late but high quality spin then early half made one. That really depends on whether there is a lot more packages needed that are currently missing in Fedora and whether you message it as a experimental spin or a more complete one. I am of the opinion that we could get a early spin out by Fedora 8 and message it explicitly as a experimental spin with the intention to have a more complete spin by the next release or somewhere in between. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art Studio Strategy (was Re: Art Studio Spin?)
Nicu Buculei wrote: The missing packages are mostly content: fonts, brushes, clipart. I don't think anyone named yet an application needed but not available yet in Fedora. If there are such packages, I am willing to help in packaging them. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art Studio Spin?
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: And, yeah, I think there are a lot of value-add bits like fonts and brushes and the like that would make it really awesome. Essential? Necessary? No, but... I'd be interested in making a spin that is basically a dream Fedora for me :) I am not trying to rush you or something, but in the spirit of the release early, release often philosophy I advice you to not wait until your dream is full, instead set a close date and put out *something*, even if it is only the Desktop spin with a couple of new packages added (and a few other removed), this will help spread the word and get new contributors. An relatively easy way to do this is to send a kickstart file to rel-eng so that they do a release of the spin with the periodical rawhide images or test releases. You might also want to post to advisory board list for a getting a discussion ongoing and approval to do this spin as part of the Fedora 8 release. We already have a electronics lab, devel and desktop spin coming up. Hopefully art studio and maybe a games spin would be ready too. Would be nice to get a assorted set of spins this way. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Like the look of F8T2
John Poelstra wrote: Great job to the people who worked on and updated the splash screens and icons in F8T2. I think they look nice! Will there be corresponding gdm login screen and backgrounds to replace the balloons? Yes. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Final Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: This attached mockup (I never did a RHGB screen before) is how I think it should look like: plain and simple but nice and with the same theme. Nicu, I used your mockup to create an image and tried it out in RHGB - it looks *really* slick. The only thing is that I can't change the background color without rebuilding the package so I'm going to get some help on that. Can't seem to take a screenshot either... sigh :) By the way, I have updated the grub artwork, added syslinux, and also the firstboot artwork for Infinity. Does the syslinux image have to be different from the grub image? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
Martin Sourada wrote: Yes, I noticed that also. It looks a little unpolished. Dunno whom to address about it though... I think it's a rhgb bug (or a feature?), I've been noticing it since the first Fedora I used (FC3) and we've changed the theme several times since then. File a bug report against RHGB. I don't think it is theme related. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 3 Default Artwork Decision
Martin Sourada wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 23:02 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Yes, I noticed that also. It looks a little unpolished. Dunno whom to address about it though... I think it's a rhgb bug (or a feature?), I've been noticing it since the first Fedora I used (FC3) and we've changed the theme several times since then. File a bug report against RHGB. I don't think it is theme related. Rahul Doing a routine search first for existing bugs in rhgb I've found a one [1] that looks pretty much like the issue we discuss here. But I want to be sure that it's the same issue before reopening it, so if anyone can check it (as I am a little in doubts about it), it would be appreciated :) Yep. Reopen. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, I've been playing around with the Fedora Infinity wallpaper this weekend trying to get something I felt really comfortable with because I felt that what we had at the end of round 2 just didn't have the level of polish and 'bling' I think we were hoping for. Anyway this is what I ended up with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Scratch What do you think? Would you mind posting some screenshots with the rawhide window manager and icon themes? It would be good to see how that looks. I think thps steps should stand out more prominently. I like the first one because the infinity part of it distinctly stand out and the third one because the stars add more perspective to the other plain purple sky. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Infinity Update
Máirín Duffy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: This sounds like a bit of an urban myth? I've never heard of this and I've a design degree - I would love to know where you've heard this? Purple is the Gentoo color. See http://gentoo.org including their icon theme. Isn't it kind of silly to reject any single color because of its symbolic meaning to another distro? Even SLES has used blue as the primary color in some of its themes: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/themesets.php The purple is an accent color, not the primary color. If we were to reject particular colors because of their symbolic meaning elsewhere, we'd have no colors left to work with. Also, Gentoo doesn't have much to do with this part of the thread? Not asking anyone to reject Purple. Just pointing out that it is already being used predominantly in another distribution and that to a extend invalidates the argument that people dont like purple as a color. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka theme
Martin Sourada wrote: I had that though also. I'll probably ask on the test list for help with testing tomorrow and point them to the bugzilla.redhat.com for now. You might want to announce this in fedora-devel list soon. I think there would be a lot of interest in a new GNOME theme. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo icons] Problems loading email icon
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I logged into my account at fedorapeople.org (username mso) and when I try to add an icon it says 'operation not permitted'. Have you checked your password/ssh keys? Talked to infrastructure team? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo icons] Problems loading email icon
Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 20:20 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote: talked about it to infrastructure team yet, should I? If you have trouble uploading your files to your fedorapeople.org account you probably should but I might have misunderstood your issue. Rahul Yes, probably you misunderstood. I have problems uploading icons to luya's fedorapeople.org account through mine account. But it should work, quoting Luya [1]: Ah ok. I am not sure you can do that though. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: About contributing to this project
Anuja KR wrote: Hi All I am a free lancer and wish to contribute some designs to the art project. Please let me know whether I can contribute, if so whats the procedure? thank you. The procedure is outlined in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#Join but the simplest way to get started is to upload your designs somewhere publicly and send a link here for feedback. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme Decisions
Kelly wrote: On Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:05 pm Máirín Duffy wrote: - F8 default theme engine: FESCo would like to see us make a decision on the default theme engine for Fedora 8. Basically, if Nodoka is ready in time (the feature freeze is Aug 28, might it be ready by then and testable by test 2, Sept 6?), are we all comfortable with it being set as the default theme? How about if Echo doesn't make it? (I'm using the Nodoka metacity theme right now with the current default icon set, Mist, and I think that they complement each other quite well. So I personally don't see there being a dependency on Echo for Nodoka. What do you think?) I will continue to push the opinion that at this point in Fedora's history, the theme engine should REALLY be based on QtCurve... How would that work for GNOME? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme Decisions
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 12:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 14:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: - F8 default icon theme: Another decision we have to make is if we are comfortable with Echo being the default for F8, and how complete we would require Echo to be before it can be set as the default. Echo is not actually on the proposed feature list [1] for F8, however. This may be an issue in getting it into F8; I'm not sure. Would we be happy with Mist for another release? Do we agree the There should be no issue with getting Echo into F8, considering it was already in F7... Even if you do want to consider this a new feature and propose this as the default icon them, you still would have time till the feature freeze date. Seriously, just because we have this new feature process, we don't have to force everything through it. Not suggesting it for this particular change but a better understanding is good since it was asked for. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme Decisions
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 14:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: - F8 default icon theme: Another decision we have to make is if we are comfortable with Echo being the default for F8, and how complete we would require Echo to be before it can be set as the default. Echo is not actually on the proposed feature list [1] for F8, however. This may be an issue in getting it into F8; I'm not sure. Would we be happy with Mist for another release? Do we agree the There should be no issue with getting Echo into F8, considering it was already in F7... Even if you do want to consider this a new feature and propose this as the default icon them, you still would have time till the feature freeze date. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Moving Echo icons to a better host?
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Hello, I managed to get a few break being recently with Graphics Design classes. Echo icons are currently located on fedoraproject.org wiki. Unfortunately, the wiki is not a good place to upload a large amount of icons because of its slow speed. I am considering to move Echo icons to a host like hosted.fedoraproject.org or better to ease the process of uploading icons. hosted.fedoraproject.org seems to be a viable choice but it will require change for the tools created by J5, echo-pull. Since the host using https protocol, I am sure if echo-pull script will work. However, the advantage of hosted.fedoraproject.org is a faster way to upload icons via git. Any comment? Yes. IMO hosted is a much better place for the icons. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [New Feature Proposition]: Nodoka Theme
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, following advice from Rahul [1] I propose a new Feature for Fedora 8 - Nodoka Theme. The Nodoka theme is currently targeted on Gnome and contains metacity theme, gtk engine, gtk theme and gnome metatheme. It is supposed to work with echo-icon-theme therefore the metatheme package requires echo icons as well. I've submitted review requests for inclusion in rawhide [2][3] and created a feature wiki page [4]. If you'd like to test it, rpms for i386 (and older ones for x86_64) and noarch are available on the NodokaTheme wiki [5]. Also I'd like to ask for hosting the sources on fedorahosted. Could someone point me as to how/where can I ask for it? Got to ask in fedora-infrastructure list. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka theme engine
Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi,
I released new version of the Nodoka gtk {engine;theme}[1]. I made a new
function for setting gradient and the old forwarded through this one
with parameters that use murrine engine. Nodoka styling uses different
parameters... So I updated most of the widgets to the new styling. They
should be now able to render with nodoka styling and murrine styling
(depending on chosen style). I also added shadows to button, editbox and
derived component. Another notable change is added deepness to
progressbar. Also, I reworked the radio button and the check button.
Those were changes mostly to the engine. As for the Nodoka gtk theme I
changed the colouring of the scroll bar and got rid of the blue on
prelight...
You might want to follow the new feature process to get this into the
Fedora 8 feature list.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy
I am running the new theme as default in Fedora 7 now. Will provide more
feedback late.r
Rahul
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Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
John Baer wrote: I find it frustrating working in an environment shadowed by legal fine print and constant legal warnings (ie. By hitting Save Changes you put your changes under the WikiLicense. If you don't want that, hit Cancel to cancel your changes). I have not run across this disclosure on any other wiki. It is present in many wikis including wikipedia and they have similar rules on using material under various copyright licenses. Go ahead and look for yourself. You might find it frustrating but even if you ignore the legal sceneario (which you really can't) attribution is considered basic courtesy. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit : Why we don't create such official stickers and announce them for free usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be stolen from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit : Why we don't create such official stickers and announce them for free usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be stolen from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? IIRC the main stumbling block was trademark issues since such a sticker is pretty much limited by area to a re-composing of the Fedora logo. So the trademark guardians need to state clearly what they are ready to accept. Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Theme [Other Stuff]
Kelly wrote: On Friday, July 06, 2007 8:45 pm Leo wrote: On 05/07/2007, Kelly wrote: I mean, the capabilities of the graphical boot system are present in the Linux kernel itself Is this true? In which version of kernel? I can't name off a specific kernel version, but I know that other distros (notably openSUSE and Mandriva) perform graphical boot using stuff directly in the kernel instead of a separate program. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SuSE+10.2+Lizard+Bootsplash?content=53507 - This is the one I used to use. It uses mkinitrd to load the images somehow... A few seconds later: Okay, I found the site for it. The patch isn't part of the official kernel, so I was incorrect when I said it was. Though I still imagine it'd be faster and easier to use the kernel itself to do graphical boot than to use a separate program to do so. Anyway, the site is here: http://www.bootsplash.org/ There are very good reasons this patch is not in the upstream kernel including the design and quality of the code. Even if we ignore that and patch the kernel, it will delay updates because of the maintenance overhead so no its not duplication. Read the spec Nicu pointed out. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme (Sounds)
John Baer wrote: All, I put together a wiki page of sounds from the free sound project which I am currently using with Fedora 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/GnomeSounds Better sound themes is a good effort though I am not sure whether we need to enable it by default. I don't consider sounds as part of the art themes or in the domain of the artwork team at all. You should probably post to fedora-devel list and talk to the maintainers involved. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Martin Sourada wrote: Please post screenshots or link to them in the wiki. Installation instructions to try out the theme would also be nice. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list We are still making changes to the theme. I did something more or less final, Daniel hadn't comment it yet. You can see the screenshot in my fedoraforum post [1]. Feel free to add your comments. I will make a rpm for easy installation when we decide with Daniel that it's complete enough. Yes. I would prefer a RPM package for testing changes. Have you done any benchmarks to see how well it performs compared to the default theme? http://www.manucornet.net/pub/olpc/gtk-theme-torturer.tgz http://wiki.laptop.org/go/GTK_for_OLPC#GTK_theme.2Fengine_torturer_and_crash_tester Better or atleast equivalent performance is important. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Martin Sourada wrote: As for the rpm. I've just created it [1]. As for the performance - I tested only metacity theme, I don't know how to do benchmark on gtk theme, but Daniel says murrine engine is faster then clearlooks. Here are the results for metacity: $ metacity-theme-viewer Clearlooks Loaded theme Clearlooks in 0.01 seconds Drew 100 frames in 0.17 client-side seconds (1.7 milliseconds per frame) and 0.324083 seconds wall clock time including X server resources (3.24083 milliseconds per frame) $ metacity-theme-viewer Nodoka Loaded theme Nodoka in 0.01 seconds Drew 100 frames in 0.08 client-side seconds (0.8 milliseconds per frame) and 0.141556 seconds wall clock time including X server resources (1.41556 milliseconds per frame) Nodaka is considerably faster here. Are you using the Murrine or Clearlooks engine? I have heard that Murrine is faster and more customizable too. I have installed the package and will be using it for sometime and hope to give more detailed comments. Some initial feedback: It has a distinctive look. Theme appears to be more glossy than the current default. The title bar and especially the minimize, maximize and close buttons are rather large. I don't see the tab like effect in the menus that was there in some of the mockups. Can you add that? The scroll bar blue matches the window buttons but the title bar is a darker blue. Should that somehow match? We should probably have darker as well as ally variants. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
