Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - update
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:42 +0800, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: I'm loving the frame shadow modes. awesome! slider and scrollbards could be rounder. but hey thats only my preference and is available in gtkrc. making those arrows darker and smaller would give the same balance. and maybe look a little neater.. your call either way .. great improvements in functionality. -Andy Yeah I like the full rounded scrollbars better as well... I'll try out your suggestion for the arrows :-) Btw. How's the progress on your sketches? I blogged [1] yesterday about the three styles, but one of the png images you posted on flickr is not available today. Can you send me latest SVG(Z)? I'll generate and publish the PNG myself ;-) Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/07/nodoka-gtk-engine-08x-continuation.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - update
I'm loving the frame shadow modes. awesome! slider and scrollbards could be rounder. but hey thats only my preference and is available in gtkrc. making those arrows darker and smaller would give the same balance. and maybe look a little neater.. your call either way .. great improvements in functionality. -Andy 2008/8/1 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've just finished my Widget Factory mock-up for the MODERN style in Nodoka 0.8.x. I also updated The Widget Factory mock-up for the CLASSIC style. I'll probably make the updates also within the 0.7.x branch so that Fedora 10 will also have some refreshments. Now the only missing one is the GLASSY one. Andy is working on it and I am looking forward to the finished work. You can check all the designs at the usual place [1] (SVGs are available at the bottom of the page), I also attach the MODERN Widget Factory mock-up here. I did various improvements from the previous sketches, but I am still not fully content with the scrollbar design and the arrows design. Any ideas? Comments, suggestions, ... welcome :-) Thanks, Martin PS: Final version (the real one) will probably make use of brighter colours, but as I played with the current sketches in inkscape, it somehow ended with those present in the mock-up :-D References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/0.8.x_Brainstorm ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
Okay, back from vacation, I did some more work on the sketching and other preparation work. I added Scale and Scrollbar designs and started writing documentation [1], currently it contains only the proposed engine options. Please note that I'll most likely enable three different styles in Nodoka - CLASSIC (mostly how it looks now), MODERN (more or less what is in the sketches) and GLOSSY (more or less what Andy is sketching now). I also updated the wiki page [2] and when Andy finishes his widget factory mockup I'll add it there as well :) Suggestions welcome. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/0.8.x/0.8.x.ps [2] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/0.8.x_Brainstorm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2715944871_90222a6bb0_o.png most of the mockup is done mate. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
its rare that tabs are that small in the wild. the fangs will disapear. :) also hopefully we can still set the roundness fedora-notebook (tabs) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Fitzsimon wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2715944871_90222a6bb0_o.png most of the mockup is done mate. I hate to bring this up again but I was wondering about the sharp 'fangs'? Do you think it's just not a concern? They still really stand out for me on the orange tab highlights... is it just me? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
actually i think i really messed up on the lightness here. (looking at it on other computers) will fix tomorrow On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Andy Fitzsimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its rare that tabs are that small in the wild. the fangs will disapear. :) also hopefully we can still set the roundness fedora-notebook (tabs) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Fitzsimon wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2715944871_90222a6bb0_o.png most of the mockup is done mate. I hate to bring this up again but I was wondering about the sharp 'fangs'? Do you think it's just not a concern? They still really stand out for me on the orange tab highlights... is it just me? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
Andy Fitzsimon wrote: its rare that tabs are that small in the wild. the fangs will disapear. :) also hopefully we can still set the roundness fedora-notebook (tabs) Ah okay phew!! :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
2008/7/17 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am thinking about improving the nodoka gtk engine looks in the next release and adding some configuration options. Therefore I am asking here, if you have ideas, requests, ... what I might implement. Today I started sketching new nodoka gradient (used in e.g. buttons), which is basically an evolvement of the current one which will be available as a configuration option. Next things on the schedule are: * improvement of the check/radio button design * improvement of various arrows used in nodoka (e.g. in scrollbars, menus or drop-down menus) * improvement of handles design (I am satisfied neither with the circles nor stripes) * improvement of design of combo of entries with buttons (combo box entries, spin buttons, ...) * improvement of progress bar design (I see there a possibility for usage of various designs, with a configuration option to choose) * improvement of focus rings design (it's part of some of the above tasks as well) * possibly add some gradient to panel (I am still not sure, how to do it right) As you can see it's rather a lot of work, and thus there is a possibility it will not be in Fedora 10, though certainly I make it in time for Fedora 11 (I promise :-p). And why I am writing this? Partly to write what I have in mind, but mostly because I need your cooperation. So far I have in mind few ideas how to achieve the above tasks, but I'd like to hear your ideas as well - after all, Fedora Artwork is not done by one, but by many people, and this is one of the vital parts of the Fedora Artwork. I attach the first button redesign sketch ;-) Once I gather enough ideas I'll put them on wiki, so everyone could see and comment on the official next version design ;-) Comments welcome, tear me to pieces :-D Thanks, Martin PS: I'll most likely be the one doing the coding, but feel free to suggest whatever you have in mind, as long as there are no colour jumps (the glass effects present e.g. in Murrine). I'd like Nodoka to be built up mostly on using gradients and simple shadows and it would be great if it was different from the other engines not only by it's configurability but also by it's looks. Looking good so far. Any news on the input field bug? can you fix that in nodoka? or still no investigation done? ^_^ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 22:00 +0200, Mark wrote: Looking good so far. Any news on the input field bug? can you fix that in nodoka? or still no investigation done? ^_^ Most likely I'll need to wait for GTK3 :-( Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
I'll be doing a widget factory mock screenshot of glossy nodoka soon ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
Jiří Jakub Mašek wrote: Hi, I prefer the variant of 14,17,20,23 (in the right column) shapes from radio-check.png, low noise, good readable... Uh... those are not different choices but all the possible states for those controls. 2008/7/18 Martin Sourada: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:55 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: * improvement of the check/radio button design I've just finished new design sketch for those. It's rather radical change compared to current looks, but IMHO it's badly needed. As usual, comments are welcome :-) Yup, it is a radical change, now they look really themed (worth talking about it as a feature). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up
Yup, it is a radical change, now they look really themed (worth talking about it as a feature). Probably yes. Considering that the Feature freeze for F10 is nearing and I haven't finished yet with the sketching, I'll push it for Fedora 11, while in Fedora 10 we'll have new notification theme [1], maybe the Echo icons and some minor improvements to the gtk theme/engine. Also, as the number of my sketches is increasing, I've prepared a wiki page [2] to keep them together with other information regarding the 0.8.x branch of gtk-nodoka-engine. Suggestions and comments welcome :-) Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NodokaNotificationTheme [2] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/0.8.x_Brainstorm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
Hi, I prefer the variant of 14,17,20,23 (in the right column) shapes from radio-check.png, low noise, good readable... JJM 2008/7/18 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:55 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: * improvement of the check/radio button design I've just finished new design sketch for those. It's rather radical change compared to current looks, but IMHO it's badly needed. As usual, comments are welcome :-) Thanks, Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- I'm still learning English.. Mr Jiri Jakub Masek (Jiří Jakub Mašek) Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
Hi, I am thinking about improving the nodoka gtk engine looks in the next release and adding some configuration options. Therefore I am asking here, if you have ideas, requests, ... what I might implement. Today I started sketching new nodoka gradient (used in e.g. buttons), which is basically an evolvement of the current one which will be available as a configuration option. Next things on the schedule are: * improvement of the check/radio button design * improvement of various arrows used in nodoka (e.g. in scrollbars, menus or drop-down menus) * improvement of handles design (I am satisfied neither with the circles nor stripes) * improvement of design of combo of entries with buttons (combo box entries, spin buttons, ...) * improvement of progress bar design (I see there a possibility for usage of various designs, with a configuration option to choose) * improvement of focus rings design (it's part of some of the above tasks as well) * possibly add some gradient to panel (I am still not sure, how to do it right) As you can see it's rather a lot of work, and thus there is a possibility it will not be in Fedora 10, though certainly I make it in time for Fedora 11 (I promise :-p). And why I am writing this? Partly to write what I have in mind, but mostly because I need your cooperation. So far I have in mind few ideas how to achieve the above tasks, but I'd like to hear your ideas as well - after all, Fedora Artwork is not done by one, but by many people, and this is one of the vital parts of the Fedora Artwork. I attach the first button redesign sketch ;-) Once I gather enough ideas I'll put them on wiki, so everyone could see and comment on the official next version design ;-) Comments welcome, tear me to pieces :-D Thanks, Martin PS: I'll most likely be the one doing the coding, but feel free to suggest whatever you have in mind, as long as there are no colour jumps (the glass effects present e.g. in Murrine). I'd like Nodoka to be built up mostly on using gradients and simple shadows and it would be great if it was different from the other engines not only by it's configurability but also by it's looks. attachment: button.pngattachment: button.svg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
