Re: Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Sunday 20 July 2008, Vasile Gaburici wrote:
 Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding
 a locl table to Linux Libertine, see
 [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#Linux_Libertine],
 took me three hours (testing included). And that just for the regular
 font. Parts of the table are (or rather should be) common between
 files, but fontforge doesn't support that, so I have to start over
 for the bold and italic!

I guess you just need to be used to how FontForge handles OpenType? I 
don't think it looks that hard to do. It used to be much harder as well 
before George completely redid OpenType handling :-).

But true, you need to be familiar with lookup tables, while I guess you 
just want to be able to select a glyph, and click some buttons saying: 
I want feature locl for languages latn{ROM} and latn{MOL} and 
substitute it with glyph X. And actually, it already works like that, 
if you made the lookups and lookup subtables. It only makes sense to 
put these together in tables like that. If you have a list of glyphs 
you substitute in certain languages and suddenly think you need one 
other language you don't have to change all previous lookups, just 
change the language list in the data.

btw, there is a Copy lookup data entry in the FontForge edit menu 
that could ease the pain having to redo everything for each font.

Greetings
Ben

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Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding a
locl table to Linux Libertine, see
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#Linux_Libertine],
took me three hours (testing included). And that just for the regular
font. Parts of the table are (or rather should be) common between
files, but fontforge doesn't support that, so I have to start over for
the bold and italic!

This presentation
[http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/atypi2006/slye_lisbon-05.pdf]
should give you an idea what the right tool for the job is like. The
good news is that Adobe FDK is free (as in beer). The bad news is that
Adobe makes only Win32 and OS X versions of it. Does anyone here have
any experience with it? Does it work in wine?

Also, does anyone know any FOSS tool that uses Adobe feature files or
similar text based files (please not that thingie that converts fonts
to XML). Fontforge is supposed to be able to import fea files, but
currently it's broken (does nothing); maintainers have been
notified...

-- Vasile

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Re: Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-20 Thread Vasile Gaburici
P.S.: here is a sample feature file for Adobe Minion Pro (2004) made
public by Adobe:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?233@@.3bb58628!enclosure=.3bb58629

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding a
 locl table to Linux Libertine, see
 [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#Linux_Libertine],
 took me three hours (testing included). And that just for the regular
 font. Parts of the table are (or rather should be) common between
 files, but fontforge doesn't support that, so I have to start over for
 the bold and italic!

 This presentation
 [http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/atypi2006/slye_lisbon-05.pdf]
 should give you an idea what the right tool for the job is like. The
 good news is that Adobe FDK is free (as in beer). The bad news is that
 Adobe makes only Win32 and OS X versions of it. Does anyone here have
 any experience with it? Does it work in wine?

 Also, does anyone know any FOSS tool that uses Adobe feature files or
 similar text based files (please not that thingie that converts fonts
 to XML). Fontforge is supposed to be able to import fea files, but
 currently it's broken (does nothing); maintainers have been
 notified...

 -- Vasile


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