Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-02-04 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)

Jesse Keating wrote:


On Tuesday 02 January 2007 11:06, Eric Rostetter wrote:

Fixed on www.fedoralegacy.org, but not on download.fedoralegacy.org.

Can someone please change these? They're both very small changes,  
but

I think it's best not to confuse people now.


Jesse will have to do download.fedoralegacy.org.


The plan for download.fedoralegacy.org is to point it at the document
describing the project status with a pointer to the last known  
mirror list.
This way repos will break, people will go to the URL to see whats  
up, notice
the project closure, and reconfigure for one of the mirrors if they  
still
need updates, and make informed decisions regarding their system's  
future.


So download.fedoralegacy.org is down now, but there is no document  
there describing the project status. Of course people should be  
looking at www.fedoralegacy.org after trying  
download.fedoralegacy.org, but can a page a like still be put up?


Also I'd like to know if there's a list of mirrors that will continue  
to be available for a while. If not I'd like to know how I can rsync  
all packages created by the Fedora Legacy Project without also  
rsyncing the packages that are still available at  
download.fedora.redhat.com. Most packages have legacy in their  
filename, but I believe some do not. Can anyone shed some more light  
on this?


I'd like to have the Fedora Legacy archive available because  
sometimes I have start managing an old Fedora box and I like to be  
able to at least get the latest legacy fixes on them directly as  
planning a migration takes a little time.


Thanks,

Nils Breunese.




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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-02-04 Thread Stuart Low
Heya,

 Also I'd like to know if there's a list of mirrors that will continue  
 to be available for a while. If not I'd like to know how I can rsync  
 all packages created by the Fedora Legacy Project without also  
 rsyncing the packages that are still available at  
 download.fedora.redhat.com. Most packages have legacy in their  
 filename, but I believe some do not. Can anyone shed some more light  
 on this?

I believe PlanetMirror still has a full mirror over here:
http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/fedoralegacy

I will ask the appropriate people to leave it up as long as possible.

Stuart

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-01-02 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)

Axel Thimm wrote:


On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 11:29:28PM -0500, seth vidal wrote:

On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 20:54 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:

On Monday 01 January 2007 20:42, Jesse Keating wrote:

It wouldn't take space


Correction, wouldn't take huge amounts of space.


It's 63GB in total.


I count about 10GB. The difference is probably the fedora/redhat
non-legacy updates from *.redhat.com, but in any case if someone wants
to archive FL's work he needs just 10GB.


The legacy and non-legacy updates are not in separate directories on  
download.fedoralegacy.org. Is there an easy way to just download  
(rsync?) the legacy updates? The non-legacy base and updates packages  
are still available at download.fedora.redhat.com. Or does anyone  
know of a download.fedoralegacy.org mirror that won't shutdown after  
download.fedoralegacy.org goes away?


Nils Breunese.


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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-01-02 Thread Axel Thimm
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 11:37:51AM +0100, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
 Axel Thimm wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 11:29:28PM -0500, seth vidal wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 20:54 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Monday 01 January 2007 20:42, Jesse Keating wrote:
 It wouldn't take space
 
 Correction, wouldn't take huge amounts of space.
 
 It's 63GB in total.
 
 I count about 10GB. The difference is probably the fedora/redhat
 non-legacy updates from *.redhat.com, but in any case if someone wants
 to archive FL's work he needs just 10GB.
 
 The legacy and non-legacy updates are not in separate directories on  
 download.fedoralegacy.org.

Yes, I'm removing the packages that already exist on the non-legacy
updates (I have a mirror of them, too).

 Is there an easy way to just download  
 (rsync?) the legacy updates?

I think all packages have legacy in their names, so using proper
rsync options like excluding '*.rpm' and then including '*legacy*rpm'
should work.

 The non-legacy base and updates packages are still available at
 download.fedora.redhat.com. Or does anyone know of a
 download.fedoralegacy.org mirror that won't shutdown after
 download.fedoralegacy.org goes away?
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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-01-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 11:06, Eric Rostetter wrote:
 Fixed on www.fedoralegacy.org, but not on download.fedoralegacy.org.

  Can someone please change these? They're both very small changes, but
  I think it's best not to confuse people now.

 Jesse will have to do download.fedoralegacy.org.

The plan for download.fedoralegacy.org is to point it at the document 
describing the project status with a pointer to the last known mirror list.  
This way repos will break, people will go to the URL to see whats up, notice 
the project closure, and reconfigure for one of the mirrors if they still 
need updates, and make informed decisions regarding their system's future.

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-01-01 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 30 December 2006 00:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Discussions last night on the #Fedora-Legacy channel have brought to
 light the fact that certain Fedora Legacy properties (servers) may be
 going away soon, such as the repository at
 http://download.fedoralegacy.org/ and the build server.  Legacy folks
 need to let us know what they want to be done with the content in the
 repository mirrors.  If you don't speak up, we may find ourselves in a
 place where 'yum update' commands will fail in the near future for the
 Red Hat and Fedora Core releases that Legacy has supported in the past.

I would like to make clear that the servers are only going offline because the 
project is ending, and keeping them online consumes real resources.  This 
consumption is unnecessary if the project is shut down.

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2007-01-01 Thread Moire

30.12.2006 06:23 David Eisenstein wrote:


Legacy folks need to let us know what they want to be done with the
content in the repository mirrors.


Hello, like other people i depend on FC3 for production systems.
I would like to see the repositories being accessible. Not only
to be able to install additional rpms and there dependencies.

Besides - many thanks for your efforts.  M.


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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread D.Terweij | NTG-Support
 In case any of you are not aware, the Fedora Legacy project is in the
 process of shutting down.

Does have anyone a rscync line for me to get the whole FC3 tree to my local
hdd?
I am still using some FC3 boxes, and dont want to miss the FL packages if i
need some...

Danny.

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread nils
 In case any of you are not aware, the Fedora Legacy project is in the
 process of shutting down.

 Does have anyone a rscync line for me to get the whole FC3 tree to my
 local hdd?
 I am still using some FC3 boxes, and dont want to miss the FL packages if
 i need some...

I wanted to do the same, but 'rsync download.fedoralegacy.org::legacy
legacy' told me I wasn't allowed to do that because I'm not a registered
mirror. The mirror page tells me mirror registration is disabled. Any
other way to get the tree without having to download each individual
package?

Nils Breunese.

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 16:38 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In case any of you are not aware, the Fedora Legacy project is in the
  process of shutting down.
 
  Does have anyone a rscync line for me to get the whole FC3 tree to my
  local hdd?
  I am still using some FC3 boxes, and dont want to miss the FL packages if
  i need some...
 
 I wanted to do the same, but 'rsync download.fedoralegacy.org::legacy
 legacy' told me I wasn't allowed to do that because I'm not a registered
 mirror. The mirror page tells me mirror registration is disabled. Any
 other way to get the tree without having to download each individual
 package?
 

Try it now.

-sv


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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread D.Terweij | NTG-Support

   In case any of you are not aware, the Fedora Legacy project is in the
   process of shutting down.
  
   Does have anyone a rscync line for me to get the whole FC3 tree to my
   local hdd?
   I am still using some FC3 boxes, and dont want to miss the FL packages
if
   i need some...
 
  I wanted to do the same, but 'rsync download.fedoralegacy.org::legacy
  legacy' told me I wasn't allowed to do that because I'm not a registered
  mirror. The mirror page tells me mirror registration is disabled. Any
  other way to get the tree without having to download each individual
  package?
 

 Try it now.

# rsync download.fedoralegacy.org::legacy legacy
Fedora Legacy Rsync - Restricted use. To sign up to be an official mirror,
visit http://fedoralegacy.org/download/mirror-form.php

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 30 December 2006 03:33, Bill McGonigle wrote:
 I'm wondering if anybody is working on a communications piece for the  
 shutdown.  A who-what-when-where-why-how sort of article?  I'm  
 assuming it would be on the Wiki/homepage if it were, but here's  
 asking anyhow.

Reading this list over the last year or so would be good info.

 So, assuming it hasn't been, I can volunteer to put something  
 together, to save the multitudes the effort of investigation.  I  
 spent some time looking over the last couple months of mailing list  
 archives, the internetnews piece, and Jesse's blog, but I'm not  
 convinced I have the whole story.  Some outstanding questions would be:

    * was there any attempt to recruit new leadership?

Yes, leadership does no good without contributors.

    * ditto for sponsorship

Nobody has responded to our calls for help.  Nobody.

    * is there data on usage (I saw that 'interest was low' but I'm  
 not sure if it means interest in volunteering or interest in terms of  
 yum updates)

Sure, there are a good number of consumers, people who will happily consume 
until the project ends, however they are not willing to actually DO any of 
the work necessary to keep the project alive.  They would be better suited 
consuming updates from a product that is designed for their usage cases.

    * probably lots more I'm not thinking about now, and it's late so  
 my reading comprehension is likely sub-par

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 30 December 2006 05:32, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
 I'd like to mirror the legacy tree (at least the FC2, FC3 and FC4  
 part of it) to a local server, but 'rsync download.fedoralegacy.org  
 legacy' tells me I cannot mirror the tree as I'm not an official  
 mirror. http://www.fedoralegacy.org/download/mirror-form.php tells me  
 mirror registration is disabled. Is there a quick way to get those  
 files? I'd rather not download them one by one and I might want to  
 use a couple of those rpms before I have completed migrating my EOL'd  
 Fedora servers.

If you read the message more carefully you'll see that you aren't being denied 
access, only that mirrors have a special port to use that should the load 
become too high only the mirrors would get access.  You're perfectly capable 
of rsyncing all the content you want.

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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)

seth vidal wrote:


seems to work for me if you use:

rsync -avH download.fedoralegacy.org::legacy legacy


Works me for me too now.

Nils Breunese.


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Re: Fedora Legacy shutting down

2006-12-30 Thread Josep L. Guallar-Esteve

David Eisenstein wrote:
 In case any of you are not aware, the Fedora Legacy project is in the
 process of shutting down.

Thank you to everybody who helped in this project.

Happy New Year :)

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