Re: Some supporting ideas regarding fedora legacy project when FC6 is out today
Robinson Tiemuqinke wrote: Hi, Glad that FC6 is out today for download/playing. But FC5 and FC6 are released too closely -- only three months apart. while FC4 had released over one year before FC5 appeared. Consequently, a lot of people and small organizations, as far as I know, have installed bunches of "free" FC4 boxes instead of FC5. Thereafter, they will directly go to FC6 instead of FC4-FC5-FC6, taking into the consideration of that each upgrade from one release to another one is not a tedious work. Personally... rather than the RedHat stair step approach to releases, i.e. FCx, FCy, FCz... I would rather see a gentle slope... The stair step approach, it was good when RH was selling RH Linux, but this is not the best approach for a freely available version of RH. We are not buying new packages every release of RH. Rawhide, as I see it, is always in motion, on the cutting edge of Linux, at least in the RH world. It's the development tip so to speak... I could be wrong on this. What Fedora should be is the stable edge of rawhide, with some QA... snapshots would be the core releases. In an ideal world, loading up FCx, and doing a yum update should take me all the way to the current_stable FCz release of fedora. In other words, clean in-line updates, no matter which ISO snapshot I download/install... then Legacy isn't really a problem. Note to RedHat and the Fedora Board - as Users, We are your Community to Develop... make the best use of the resource you have. Thx, Tim -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
Re: Some supporting ideas regarding fedora legacy project when FC6 is out today
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 14:52, Robinson Tiemuqinke wrote: But FC5 and FC6 are released too closely -- only three months apart. while FC4 had released over one year before FC5 appeared. Where the heck are you getting your figures? FC5 was released 3/20/2006, FC4 was released 6/13/2005, that's 9~ months. FC6 was released today, 10/24, about 7 months since FC5 was released. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) pgpZjNDJ5TZMg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
Re: Some supporting ideas regarding fedora legacy project when FC6 is out today
On 10/24/06, Robinson Tiemuqinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But FC5 and FC6 are released too closely -- only three months apart. while FC4 had released over one year before FC5 appeared. Huh? There has been at least 6 months between each FC release. FC1 release: Nov 5 2003 FC2 release: May 18 2004 FC3 release: Nov 8 2004 FC4 release: Jun 13 2005 FC5 release: Mar 20 2006 FC6 release: Oct 24 2006 -Dave -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
Re: Sorry for confusion -- Re: Some supporting ideas regarding fedora legacy project when FC6 is out today
Robinson Tiemuqinke wrote: Currently FC just scares aways small business users to Debian/Gentoo because the former have so short a lifespan. Without real business users play in these FC test-beds RHEL will die away shortly. Why do you think they will move to Debian or Gentoo? And why Debian or Gentoo? I really don't see the logic. If they like the Red Hat-way of running Linux they'll almost certainly prefer CentOS or RHEL if they like Fedora but want a longer life cycle. Nils Breunese. PGP.sig Description: Dit deel van het bericht is digitaal ondertekend -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
Re: Some supporting ideas regarding fedora legacy project when FC6 is out today
Quoting Robinson Tiemuqinke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Based on the above fact, one idea will flow out naturally: based on the limited resourses of fedora legacy groups, and facing losing users because limited legacy support is flatted to each FC legacy release. Is it possible to support only some subset of releases? We can take the following strategy: Sure. We can just support one release if we want. Kind of makes the project rather pointless though if we keep changing the rules constantly. The _ONLY_ way there is a justification for Fedora Legacy is if it has, and maintains, a schedule so that people can depend on it. Otherwise, there really is no point to it. 1, for each odd-numbered release, take it as a alpha version release, and don't support it with limited fedora legacy resources. So FC5, FC7, FC9 will not go into fedora legacy. and they will be in official(redhat) support status in no more than half year, or even a quarter. And people who unkowning install one of those and then find out about FL are just out of luck? 2, for each even-numbered release, take it as a post-beta version release. these version will stay in official support for more than one year like FC4, then after its ending of official support, the release will go to fedora legacy for another one and half years or even longer based on resources. This implies that Fedora Core will support the even numbered releases for more than a year which is not something they will guarantee. So this won't work. This way we can bring FC releases back into the free RH years since RH6.0 to RH9, helpful for FC, RH and users. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. You want to reduce support, then you compare that to the fantastic support of the old RHL days? Doesn't make any sense to me. If FL is to have any trust from the users and Fedora community, it _must_ keep a support schedule, and not change it willy nilly. (Actually, it is okay to extend support for something, or even reduce support for future unreleased versions, but not to reduce or eliminate support that was already promised for a release that is already in use). -- Eric Rostetter The Department of Physics The University of Texas at Austin Go Longhorns! -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list fedora-legacy-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
