Re: [Echo] Multimedia-burner icon set draft
Martin Sourada a écrit : On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:14 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: system-lock-screen should not be hard to do. We can use your monitor icon and put the locker on screen. system-log-out is a bit tricky considering the analogy. Don't forget that the system-lock-screen is action icon, so we'll need to redo the monitor in proper perspective, but yeah, it should be a rather easy one. As for system log out - either consider expanding the current one to all sizes or use the gnome-icon-theme metaphor (similar to that used on emergency exits signs). Let's focus on the existing icon. BTW. I've committed system-file-manager to 0.3.x branch as well and added a bunch of new symlinks (copied over from the installed Rawhide rpm I've built today). Just a side note, the new icons look great in the menus (and they really do fit beautifully with the other new echo icons like 'folder' or icons in the first level Applications menu), though the system-file-manager might be better off with more contrast (perhaps using lighter fills), but it's not a show-stopper, the current one works great too :) We will let new contributors doing that exercises. =) I hope to have more spare time to work on the echo icons during the summer vacation so that we can make it in time for F-10 :-) Also, the recent icons feel really great and are made in the very style I'd like every Echo icon to have when we finally release version 1.0 (rather distant future now...) - modern, 3Dish look, vibrant colours, subtle gradients, good usability,... It feels like the real work on Echo is just starting :-D And of course, when we finish some decent set of how-to's and tutorials, we need to start some real recruiting campaign (on the fedora websites, on our blogs, on the mailing list, in fedoraforum, ...) ;-) And make the current trac page more elegant. I also made a quick draft about echo-icon-theme logo. Luya inline: echo-logo.pnginline: echo-logo.svg___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
artwork for kids
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Re: [Echo] Multimedia-burner icon set draft
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: And make the current trac page more elegant. I also made a quick draft about echo-icon-theme logo. Its resemblance of the infamous blue e letter does not bring bad memories to you? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artwork for kids
Arnav Kalra wrote: I want help to create some artwork for a kids spin The thing is that we don't have a spin for kids... the closest to this is the proposal for an education spin (but education is not necessarily for kids, it may be for teens or so). My advice would be to go on the development list and see if you find people interested in producing such a spin and only after that figure if/what graphics are needed. Out of the curiosity, what graphics do you think are needed for such a spin? Do you imagine it using a different wallpaper/splashes? Another icon set than the default? Pre-installed clipart/templates/samples? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artwork for kids
Hi, Nicu Buculei wrote: Arnav Kalra wrote: I want help to create some artwork for a kids spin The thing is that we don't have a spin for kids... the closest to this is the proposal for an education spin (but education is not necessarily for kids, it may be for teens or so). Yeah... true. We've a roadmap for Fedora Education here (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education/Roadmap), stating... create at least two spins [...]: one for children, maybe using the Sugar interface (depending on how many activities we have in Fedora for F10 - or a GNOME desktop), [...] I also made a request for an educational theme here (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService), but this was mainly intended for the second spin. Since we haven't created further plans, I don't know, how we're going on. I just wanted to mention it... You might also be interested in our mailing list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list My advice would be to go on the development list and see if you find people interested in producing such a spin and only after that figure if/what graphics are needed. Out of the curiosity, what graphics do you think are needed for such a spin? Do you imagine it using a different wallpaper/splashes? Another icon set than the default? Pre-installed clipart/templates/samples? Greetings from the Edu SIG ;), Sebastian http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
kids spin
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Re: kids spin
Arnav Kalra wrote: I want to make kids specific artwork for artwork for a kids spin which is currently in planning Then create a wiki page and upload your designs there. You can start with a banner and a wallpaper [*], since there is an open request for those items: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_Education There is a handy banner template made by Ryan which you can use to get something fitting the general banner layout on the wiki - see as an example http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_DesignService_fedorawebsitesbanner_3.svg [*] - my *personal* opinion is that a Fedora spin should look and feel like Fedora and this include the default wallpaper, but this in only a personal opinion. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Multimedia-burner icon set draft
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 03:32 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: And make the current trac page more elegant. I also made a quick draft about echo-icon-theme logo. Luya Not bad. Just a few comments: * as it's only two-colour, it resembles IE logo... - could be fixed if you made the head in the Echo emotes style * would be nice to make that logo in the Echo style - so adding gradients, outlines, ... * I don't mind the text, but it would be probably better off if it were on the right (the trac web-pages would look/work better with low header than with high header), and perhaps present only in the trac header * would be good to add waves propagating in opposite direction to the current one to better symbolize the meaning of word echo Ah, and would be cool if the design was such that we could make simplified smaller versions, down to 16x16 px (we might use it in echo upstream as icon for gnome menus). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Multimedia-burner icon set draft
Hm... not bad. Perhaps would be better if you used yellow-orange or bright yellow-yellow gradient for the head, together with orange or brown outlines? Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Multimedia-burner icon set draft
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:59 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Hm... not bad. Perhaps would be better if you used yellow-orange or bright yellow-yellow gradient for the head, together with orange or brown outlines? Here is the draft. Luya Looking great. Perhaps the eye could be black instead of blue (I just somehow do not like the yellow--semi-transparent blue combination)? Could you try one another variant with both waves being to the right of the head, and the backwards one being more transparent? I wonder whether it would look well and express the meaning of echo better... If you'd go for the second variant (both waves on the right), we could make a track header that would contain the text Echo Icon Theme (not necessarily in one line), using some effects on it (like adding shadow, gradient, outline), and placing it to the right of the head and waves, symbolizing that the wave is echoed by the text. Ah, and I just realized it, could you try to make it more 3D like (meaning the head could look more like ball, perhaps some more complex gradient would do the job). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Echo] system-lock-screen draft
New draft of system-lock-screen based on computer icon. Comments welcome. Luya Reference: -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions inline: system-lock-screen16.svginline: system-lock-screen22.pnginline: system-lock-screen48.png___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] system-lock-screen draft
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 15:44 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: New draft of system-lock-screen based on computer icon. Comments welcome. Luya Reference: -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions Not bad, here are few comments: * 16x16 version seems to have not very well defined shape, perhaps will need further simplification * 22x22 (and 24x24) version should use flat perspective instead of on-the-table * 32x32 is rendered in 16x16, I cannot say, if it's 32x32 or 16x16 one by looking at the png * 48x48 - the top line is a little blurry, you can easily make it sharp if you create the perspective by following the on the table perspective how-to [1] (err... I just noticed it's probably because the lines are not perfectly vertical/horizontal. Seems like you took the isometric monitor and only deformed it in inkscape... Would be better to copy over only the content of the display [wallpaper] and redraw the rest from scratch) * the shadow in on-the-table and flat perspective icons should be only bellow the icon, unlike in the isometric one * is there any particular reason for the lock to be plain white? * it would also help to create more contrast between the top and front faces of the display Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/OnTheTablePerspective signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
kids spin
actually it would be better to have themes and wallpapers on cartoons like power rangers or superman. We can take help from cartoon photos which are available on cartoon websites ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: kids spin
Arnav Kalra wrote: actually it would be better to have themes and wallpapers on cartoons like power rangers or superman. We can take help from cartoon photos which are available on cartoon websites We can only take cartoons which we have a license to. Superman and Power Rangers are copyrighted and have very expensive licensing fees. I wonder what the license on the Firefox fox cartoon is? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: possible koji logo
On Monday 23 June 2008, Mike McLean wrote: Using the unicode character as a base, I drew a set of paths in the gimp and painted along them using one of the calligraphy brushes. I turned on the 'jitter' option on the paintbrush tool to give it a more natural look. This png shows this path tracing side-by-side with the unicode character at the same scale. http://people.redhat.com/mikem/software/koji-icon-path.png If you want the gimp file with the path data, it is here: http://people.redhat.com/mikem/software/koji-icon-path.xcf.bz2 Having the paths enables us to scale the icon very well and make variations more easily. Anyway, I think it might need a few tweaks, but overall I think I like it. What do folks think? I like it, It looks nice and clean. maybe we can get Mo to touch it up? -- Dennis Gilmore signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
[Issue 88613] Canvas: cairo-based font rendering
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88613 User pl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Issue type|PATCH |ENHANCEMENT --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 24 08:39:07 + 2008 --- As is the patch will probably not go in (internal VCL API exposed). With the target later I also assume, that this needs further work, so I'll set the type from patch to enhancement. This is merely to make this issue move out of the patch statisctics into which it does not seem to belong. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 452663] Review Request: andika-fonts - Andika SIL fonts
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[Issue 90735] fonts displayed are thin, weak, malformed
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90735 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 25 01:34:22 + 2008 --- Can't confirm (no fonts or Gentoo, so I may be completely off-mark) but I can say that although the fonts on the two screenshots appear different, the relative spacing is identical, so visual differences in glyph outlines appear to be the result of rendering/hinting (the oowriter-2.4.1 version is properly hinted, either either grayscale or whatever the Gentoo equivalent to ClearType is, whilst the 3.0 version isn't). My guess is something up with Freetype 2.3.6. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 452782] New: [liberation-fonts] Quality Check between initial 1.03 and latest dist.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452782 Summary: [liberation-fonts] Quality Check between initial 1.03 and latest dist. Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: liberation-fonts AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QAContact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],fedora-fonts-bugs- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description of problem: The glyphs in latest version should be same as initial ver 1.03 from manufacturer. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): 1.03.beta2 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install liberation-fonts initial ver 1.03 from https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/liberation-fonts-1.03.tar.gz to /usr/share/fonts/liberation. 2. Load attached word file in gnome. 3. Run fc-cache in /usr/share/fonts/liberation. 4. Capture screenshots on each font. 5. Install liberation-fonts ver 1.04.beta from https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/liberation-fonts-1.04.beta2.tar.gz to /usr/share/fonts/liberation 6. Load attached word file in gnome. 7. Run fc-cache in /usr/share/fonts/liberation. 8. Capture screenshots on each font. 9. Use GIMP to stack pictures as pairs by font. 10.Compare the results. Actual results: Some glyphs have displacement by 1 pixel. Expected results: All glyphs are identical. Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
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Re: revisit: turning some of the always used modules to built-in
Dave Jones wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:42:18AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: Category 1: Always loaded anyway Rationale: Since we load these always anyway, why bother making it modules - ata_generic, pata_acpi These ones make me hrmm a bit. I'd like to know that our initrd isn't going to do something silly before we change these. Peter ? We probably need to do a little bit of mkinitrd work to make sure this works, but not much. That being said, don't we need to install e.g. ahci _before_ ata_generic on most systems to get the right behavior? Also, how does ata_generic interact with ata_piix? I know changing the install order of ahci vs ata_piix causes major flux in behavior... - libata Sure. Done in CVS. - sg, sd_mod Ditto. sr_mod and cdrom? They're not strictly required, but it's really, really common. It's 60k of bloat, which isn't great, but I think it also makes booting incrementally quicker (because hal won't need to load the modules.) , scsi_mod This one is tricky. It seems to become modular because it's dependant upon the bool SCSI_NETLINK. A bunch of other scsi modules enable SCSI_NETLINK, like the fibrechannel stuff. I'm not convinced we want to build all that stuff in. Then we need to make sure that there's a dep chain that shows up with modprobe --show-depends. - ext3, jbd, mbcache I'm torn on these. Mostly for the reasons both Eric and Matt suggested. The flipside being that Eric knows how to build his own kernels, and can do so, but at the same time, if it means he spends less time fixing ext bugs each day and more time staring at compiler output, I'm not sure it's a net win. Matts argument, whilst RHEL specific, does have an element of validity for Fedora too. We always push the 'Fedora isn't a test vehicle for RHEL' angle, but at the same time, there's no denying that doing something completely different does take away a certain amount of 'in the field' testing. (In this case, I'm primarily thinking about the knock-on effects changes like this have on the kernel periphery packages like mkinitrd/anaconda which now have to support two separate cases). Actually, I don't think these three change mkinitrd/anaconda much at all; we always pull these three modules in as dependencies, never manually. Category 2: Always loaded in default install [...] - dm_mod Yeah, I guess. This will require minor changes to mkinitrd, but I'm for it. Also, dm_snapshot, since we also always load it (there's no way to tell if it's necessary ahead of time :/ ) Also, though not strictly _required_, dm_zero, and dm_mirror would be nice -- you always get them loaded, and there aren't any module deps on them. (Though arguably this is a deficiency in lvm2) - ahci (default storage for all new systems; means that there the system always has the / device driver) Same thing as above. The mkinitrd logic surrounding ordering of storage modules is fragile at best.. I think this will break some ICH[789] boxes, won't it? I've seen this cause ata_piix badly misbehave if this is already loaded when it loads on systems configured in legacy mode in the BIOS (which is often not exposed as an option to the user AT ALL) - ehci_hcd (means you have a USB keyboard early) ISTR there was some issue with this. I'm sure we even tried it once in the FC2 era. Lets give it a shot, and see what happens. I think this should work these days... if not, we should really just sit down and fix it. There's some mkinitrd work here, but it's mostly just code removal, and you should get a working initrd even before we do it. Also this is required to do usb-serial console (though that's still pretty broken itself ATM), which could eventually be really useful for debugging. I think we also want uhci_hcd here; if you've got EHCI you'll wind up loading it anyway, and if you don't, then you'll probably want it loaded. -- Peter ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: remote app -- local data
Frank Cox wrote: I need to run a program on a computer that I normally access through a tunneled VNC desktop over SSH. I want to have that remote program save its data on my local hard drive. have you tried setting your 'preferences | main | downloads' to your local drive? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: yep. Still about triple speed. Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I remember the numbers) Curious, is cpuspeed active? Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock speed it is 'possible' but unlikely that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed and made timing decisions that mismatch the CPU running at full speed. Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for example. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: remote app -- local data
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:46:33 + g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you tried setting your 'preferences | main | downloads' to your local drive? The local drive doesn't exist on the remote computer, so I can't set any preferences to it. And it's not actually Firefox, that was just an example. It's a custom program that downloads stuff from a server that can only be accessed from a certain IP address range. Thanks anyway, though. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: remote app -- local data
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:48:52 -0700 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssh -XC (C is for compressed...might be useful) anyway, freenx is capable of saving to local smb server - also works better than anything else on limited bandwidth Interesting. I will do some investigating. Thanks! -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: rsh issue (access denied)...
Hi Bruce, just a wild guess... check /etc/xinetd.d/rsh and /etc/xinetd.d/rlogin if they contain disabele = yes if so, change it to disable = no and restart xinetd Hth Alex -- Alexander Apprichscience + computing ag Senior System Engineer Hagellocher Weg 71-75 phone +49(0)7071 9457-291 D-72070 Tuebingen, Germany fax +49(0)7071 9457-211 www.science-computing.de s+c certificates via http://www.science-computing.de/cacert.crt -- Vorstand/Board of Management: Dr. Bernd Finkbeiner, Dr. Florian Geyer, Dr. Roland Niemeier, Dr. Arno Steitz, Dr. Ingrid Zech Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. Hanns Ruder Sitz/Registered Office: Tuebingen Registergericht/Registration Court: Stuttgart Registernummer/Commercial Register No.: HRB 382196 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!
Michael Schwendt írta: On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: yep. Still about triple speed. Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I remember the numbers) Curious, is cpuspeed active? Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock speed it is 'possible' but unlikely that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed and made timing decisions that mismatch the CPU running at full speed. Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for example. I was reading this thread and I wanted to say I have a similar problem with a twist. I am running F9/x86-64 on my main machine, it doesn't have problems with sound. I am also running a 32-bit LTSP5 thin client, everything is set up according to the Fedora k12linux/ltsp docs. The client machine is a Compaq Deskpro EN with PIII/866 CPU. And everything I tried on the thin client (software running on the 64-bit machine actually, sound is transferred to the client's pulseaudio daemon) is played quicker. Youtube videos keep the video and sound in sync, so the video as a whole is played faster. Some other software that prefers syncing audio to the video speed produce dropouts in the sound. My son especially notices it in ScummVM... Watching time go on the thin client console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) didn't show anything suspicious. One second seems to be really one second and installing ntpdate/ntpd into the thin client didn't change the faster sound. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:57:38 +0930 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you couldn't log in, how did you bring up the clock? I eventually found that some combination of kernel options like noacpi and other dumb thing down options made it work normally, at which point I was able to install some ssh public keys in a local user, then get those keys loaded in ssh-agent so no interaction was required to login qwhen it was in hyperspeed mode :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedora 9: left handed mouse after resuming from hibernate
Tim: Have you tried putting your script into one of the power management script directories [1], so it gets run automatically? Frank Murphy: If script was put there would it need any ext .sh etc.., am thinking /etc/pm/config.d As here it not a resume just losing the setup after using kvm. (no coder here) On my Fedora 7 laptop, I have a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ for re-applying some parameters to my hard drive after a wakeup. You could use it as a template, changing the (hdparm) command line to whatever commands you were using to fix your problem. #!/bin/bash case $1 in thaw|resume) /sbin/hdparm -B255 /dev/sda ;; *) ;; esac exit $? The file permissions are rwx-r-xr-x. Though I suspect it only needs to be executable by root, I haven't bothered testing. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 FC6, all using Gnome in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED!
Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: Michael Schwendt írta: On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:37:27 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote: yep. Still about triple speed. Remember the vinyl records? Sounds like a 33 being played at 78. (If I remember the numbers) Curious, is cpuspeed active? Since cpuspeed (see also powernow) can tinker with the processor's clock speed it is 'possible' but unlikely that the audio code woke up with the CPU running at a low power slow speed and made timing decisions that mismatch the CPU running at full speed. Unlikely IMO. The audio chip would still process sample data at the frequency it is set up by the driver to play with. On the contrary, if there's a bug in the kernel driver or an incompatibility in alsa lib, the result could be that 44.1 kHz sample data are played at 96 kHz, for example. I was reading this thread and I wanted to say I have a similar problem with a twist. I am running F9/x86-64 on my main machine, it doesn't have problems with sound. I am also running a 32-bit LTSP5 thin client, everything is set up according to the Fedora k12linux/ltsp docs. The client machine is a Compaq Deskpro EN with PIII/866 CPU. And everything I tried on the thin client (software running on the 64-bit machine actually, sound is transferred to the client's pulseaudio daemon) is played quicker. Youtube videos keep the video and sound in sync, so the video as a whole is played faster. Some other software that prefers syncing audio to the video speed produce dropouts in the sound. My son especially notices it in ScummVM... Watching time go on the thin client console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) didn't show anything suspicious. One second seems to be really one second and installing ntpdate/ntpd into the thin client didn't change the faster sound. Talking to myself, it seems. :-) The solution for me on the thin client was to add a module option: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# pwd /opt/ltsp/i386/etc [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat modprobe.conf options snd-intel8x0 ac97_clock=44100 Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Cairo Dock crashes on switching desktop workspaces
Hi List, i've tried cairo dock, nice piece of software. All works fine till i switch the desktop workspace. Cairo Dock disappears and a Maintenance Mode Window (the configuration dialog) is shown. After starting from terminal, i get some error messages. Any ideas where the problem is? Thx greetz Dirk $ cairo-dock warning : (cairo-dock-application-factory.c:cairo_dock_create_surface_from_xpixmap:120) This pixmap is undefined. It can happen for exemple for a window that is in a minimized state when the dock is launching. _cd_find_volume_name_from_drive_name: assertion `pDrive != NULL' failed warning : (cairo-dock.c:_cairo_dock_intercept_signal:270) Attention : Cairo-Dock has crashed (sig 11). It will be restarted now. Feel free to report this bug on cairo-dock.org to help improving the dock ! gtk_combo_box_new_with_model: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed gtk_cell_layout_pack_start: assertion `GTK_IS_CELL_LAYOUT (cell_layout)' failed gtk_cell_layout_set_attributes: assertion `GTK_IS_CELL_LAYOUT (cell_layout)' failed invalid (NULL) pointer instance g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed gtk_tree_model_foreach: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed gtk_box_pack_start: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed gtk_combo_box_new_with_model: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed gtk_cell_layout_pack_start: assertion `GTK_IS_CELL_LAYOUT (cell_layout)' failed gtk_cell_layout_set_attributes: assertion `GTK_IS_CELL_LAYOUT (cell_layout)' failed invalid (NULL) pointer instance g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed gtk_tree_model_foreach: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed gtk_box_pack_start: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed warning : (cairo-dock-application-factory.c:cairo_dock_create_surface_from_xpixmap:120) This pixmap is undefined. It can happen for exemple for a window that is in a minimized state when the dock is launching. _cd_find_volume_name_from_drive_name: assertion `pDrive != NULL' failed cette fenetre s'est deplacee sur le bureau courant (212;92) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
CPU temp problem intel 440ZX after update of Fedora 9
Hi there Installed fedora 9. All was well. CPU temp sensor was giving an accurate reading, fan was working etc. Updated the system and now the CPU temp is set to 50C with no deviation. Tried booting with the original kernel with no change. Ran sensors-detect and detected no sensors. /proc/acpi is populated with the required data except for the fact the cpu temp is reported as 50C with no change ever. This motherboard and processor is supported by lm_sensors for some time now. ACPId is running. Does anybody have any ideas as to which package i should downgrade to get things working again? tia mike -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=273302topic_id=58582forum=10#forumpost273302 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: remote app -- local data
Frank Cox wrote: have you tried setting your 'preferences | main | downloads' to your local drive? The local drive doesn't exist on the remote computer, so I can't set any preferences to it. And it's not actually Firefox, that was just an example. It's a custom program that downloads stuff from a server that can only be accessed from a certain IP address range. Thanks anyway, though. Will the remote machine support sshfs? If so, you could mount the local drive on the remote machine over a ssh link. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: CPU temp problem intel 440ZX after update of Fedora 9
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM, mike simpson (mikieboy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installed fedora 9. All was well. CPU temp sensor was giving an accurate reading, fan was working etc. Updated the system and now the CPU temp is set to 50C with no deviation. Tried booting with the original kernel with no change. Ran sensors-detect and detected no sensors. /proc/acpi is populated with the required data except for the fact the cpu temp is reported as 50C with no change ever. This motherboard and processor is supported by lm_sensors for some time now. ACPId is running. Does anybody have any ideas as to which package i should downgrade to get things working again? I had a similar problem, Mike. The following may help you: http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/2008-June/023390.html Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
compiz-fusion-gnome?
Just idle curiosity while waiting for yum... Anyone know why installing the latest compiz-fusion-gnome update is spending what seems like hours running gconftool-2? (This is what comes of trying to copy every bad idea from Windows :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Network connection issue
Network Manager is not started on bootup, network is. Restarting network service doesn't work. thanks, Jim Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:36:29 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Network connection issue Jim Douglas wrote: I am thinking I may have had the Services window open and clicked on something by accidentcable modem connection. Can't browse internet, there are no other computers. pinging is fine, a remote Ip times out... Jim What happens if you go into services and stop and restart the network service. I've heard it said on this list that it isn't good to have both network services and Network Manager running at the same time. Perhaps you started Network Manager. I think it is the first entry in the service menu (it is on F9). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list _ The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to reduce the font size in emacs?
Hi, I have the following in my ~/.emacs file ;; Display settings (setq default-frame-alist '( (width . 100) (height . 70) (font . -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso8859-1) (mouse-color . Pink) (cursor-color . Pink) (background-color . Black) (foreground-color . White) )) The above is to make the font bigger not smaller, but you get the idea ;) You need to choose the font to suit what you want. I use xfontsel for this. Chris Robert P. J. Day wrote: i've poked around and i can't figure how to decrease the font size when running emacs on the desktop. hints? please? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to reduce the font size in emacs?
* Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080624 15:31]: Hi, I have the following in my ~/.emacs file ;; Display settings (setq default-frame-alist '( (width . 100) (height . 70) (font . -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso8859-1) (mouse-color . Pink) (cursor-color . Pink) (background-color . Black) (foreground-color . White) )) The above is to make the font bigger not smaller, but you get the idea ;) You need to choose the font to suit what you want. I use xfontsel for this. Shift-Mouse1 gives you a menu to select with. You can also do $ emacs -fn 7x14 on the commandline, or edit .Xresources and add the line: Emacs.font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1 for example. Then to make it take effect $ xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources There are more ways I am sure, but these works for me. Chris Robert P. J. Day wrote: i've poked around and i can't figure how to decrease the font size when running emacs on the desktop. hints? please? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] All-Round Linux Tinkerer RHCE -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: rsh issue (access denied)...
Hi Alexander...
Thanks for the reply... I'd already changed the /etc/xinetd.d/rsh,rlogin, files
but forgot to list them. The files as they exist are:
/etc/xinetd.d/rexec::
# description: Rexecd is the server for the rexec(3) routine. The server \
# provides remote execution facilities with authentication based \
# on user names and passwords.
service exec
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rexecd
disable = no
}
/etc/xinetd.d/rsh::
# default: on
# description: The rshd server is the server for the rcmd(3) routine and, \
# consequently, for the rsh(1) program. The server provides \
# remote execution facilities with authentication based on \
# privileged port numbers from trusted hosts.
service shell
{
disable = no
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rshd
}
/etc/xinetd.d/rlogin::
# default: on
# description: rlogind is the server for the rlogin(1) program. The server \
# provides a remote login facility with authentication based on \
# privileged port numbers from trusted hosts.
service login
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rlogind
disable = no
}
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander Apprich
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:48 AM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: rsh issue (access denied)...
Hi Bruce,
just a wild guess...
check /etc/xinetd.d/rsh and /etc/xinetd.d/rlogin if they contain
disabele = yes
if so, change it to
disable = no
and restart xinetd
Hth
Alex
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Re: how to not lock the screen
More data: The problem went away for a while for no apparent reason. Hence, I haven't posted in a while. I turned off my computer when I went away for a weekend. I turned it on yesterday and today the problem is back. Any ideas? The problem is rather annoying. On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $ startx if still, 2) add another user, login as, if continues, #3. I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. I tried grepping /var/log/* , but didn't find the complaints. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Curious desktop behaviour
On Tue June 24 2008, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there any way of telling Firefox (or any application) that you want it to open in a specific desktop? Right click on the title bar and look at all the options you'll find there; the one you'll want is 'Advanced/Special Window Settings' -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Network connection issue
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 01:59 +, Jim Douglas wrote: I am thinking I may have had the Services window open and clicked on something by accidentcable modem connection. Can't browse internet, there are no other computers. pinging is fine, a remote Ip times out... Jim How cn pinging be fine if remote ip times out? -- === The cost of living is going up, and the chance of living is going down. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 52, Issue 212
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 07:24 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 52, Issue 212 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to[EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-listor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan Re: Contents of fedora-list digest...Today's Topics: 1. Re: Blue screen and yum / not yum (Bassel Safadi) 2. use wireless router as wireless NIC? (Dave Stevens) 3. Re: Network connection issue (max) 4. Re: Blue screen and yum / not yum (max) 5. Re: Blue screen and yum / not yum (Patrick O'Callaghan) 6. Re: Blue screen and yum / not yum (Patrick O'Callaghan) 7. Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! (Timothy Murphy) 8. Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! (Arthur Pemberton) 9. Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC? (Fred Erickson) 10. Re: F8 All multi media is TRIPLE SPEED! (Nifty Hat Mitch) 11. Re: Thunderbird (again!?!?) (Craig White) 12. after yum update no volume control? (Phill) 13. Re: Blue screen and yum / not yum (g) 14. FC9 x86_64 powers off unexpectedly (Dan Farmer) 15. Re: FC9 x86_64 powers off unexpectedly (stan) 16. Re: FC9 x86_64 powers off unexpectedly (Roger Heflin)--Message: 1Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:50:17 +0300From: Bassel Safadi Subject: Re: Blue screen and yum / not yumTo: For users of Fedora Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Bassel Safadi wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be pedantic Bassel, but why you don't have to is not the same as why you should not. The first means it's not obligatory to [i.e. to top-post], but you can if you like, which is more or less the reverse of what you actually mean, that being why you should not [top-post]. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Sorry for my bad English, you're right Patrick, I said it the wrong way, I'm new to English that's why I do such mistakes, Thanks a lot for the note :-)this was about (Blue screen and yum / not yum) right? :-)-- next part --An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080624/d9244983/attachment.html--Message: 2Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:51:42 -0700From: Dave Stevens Subject: use wireless router as wireless NIC?To: fedora list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiI have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters.Dave-- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions.-- Ursula K. LeGuin--Message: 3Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:59:54 -0400From: max Subject: Re: Network connection issueTo: For users of Fedora Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedJim Douglas wrote: I boot up, get assigned an IP address by service provider, when I do an ipconfig I see the address. But I can't browse the internet. Suggestions? (The computer has worked for the lat 2 years, on re-boot it no longer works.) Jim Are you sure its a valid IP?DSL or cable internet?got a router?have you pinged loopback, localhost, gateway? tried pinging a remote IP? if you can ping by IP but not name then DNS is screwy.-- Fortune favors the *BOLD*--Message: 4Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:16:29 -0400From: max Subject: Re: Blue screen and yum / not yumTo: For users of Fedora Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to answer all the questions with one message. First I will be glad not to top post as soon as someone tells me what it means ;-) Second, I believe they are using Gnome. That is usually what they use here. I was gone last week when they sent the machine but I believe it is gnome. The customer says the monitor is fine. I had him bring up grub and put 3 and he says he did it. I
Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?
Hello Fedora Gurus, I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org site. It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it Any comments? Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
how to install python 2.4.4 on my fedora 8 despite havin version 2.5.1
hello am very new to fedora8, i would appreciate if anyone could help me out with the commands to use in thte installation of python 2.4.4-tgz i downloaded.i already have a newer version in my fedora but for the project i want to work on i need the 2.4.4 version installed.kindly help out with the installation. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Network connection issue
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 09:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 01:59 +, Jim Douglas wrote: I am thinking I may have had the Services window open and clicked on something by accidentcable modem connection. Can't browse internet, there are no other computers. pinging is fine, a remote Ip times out... Jim How cn pinging be fine if remote ip times out? Not sure what he meant by that either, cept maybe has to do with intranet and internet? Anyway, wonder how his /etc/resolv.conf file is? Does he have his dns servers listed there? Does he get an IP? Is his gateway and netmask defined? I guess if he posted his ifcfg-eth0 contents and /etc/resolv.conf contents that might lead to a discovery. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to install python 2.4.4 on my fedora 8 despite havin version 2.5.1
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT), Olaniyi Moluga wrote: hello am very new to fedora8, i would appreciate if anyone could help me out with the commands to use in thte installation of python 2.4.4-tgz i downloaded.i already have a newer version in my fedora but for the project i want to work on i need the 2.4.4 version installed.kindly help out with the installation. The http://rpm.livna.org repository offers Python 2.4.4 as compat-python24 packages plus several add-on modules. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
What is the matter with fedora 9?
Hi every What is the matter with fedora 9? it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking. programs are acessible only as root user: xsane just does nothing as non-root user. openoffice blocks its drop-downs in the main menu for 20 seconds, if you are not root. if you are root, everything is as good/as bad as with fedora 8, thanks very much. openldap breaks down every now and then, and stays with a corrupt sleepycat database, which is not revoverable. could the relevant persons please provide an update to fedora 9 as soon as possible? thanks very much. very angry suomi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh tunnel problems
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 00:35 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 16:35 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: I don't see this as confusing: (on my.work.server which is behind a firewall that blocks incoming ssh but not outgoing ssh) ssh -R 2022:my.work.server:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] where my.work.server is the IP address for my.work.server and home.computer is the IP address for my home.computer. This sets up the port forwarding for a reverse tunnel (that's the -R option). If on home.computer I do: netstat -an | grep 2022 it shows that home.computer is listening to port 2022. Then, to use the reverse tunnel (again on home.computer): ssh -p 2022 [EMAIL PROTECTED] where accnt is the user account on my.work.server and I use the password for accnt on my.work.server. This should allow me then to go through the ssh tunnel in the reverse direction (getting through the firewall that is blocking the use of incoming ssh from the home computer to the my.work.server). Even after removing everything in hosts.allow on my.work.server, I still can't connect. This SAME set up works fine if I set up the tunnel from my home computer to my account on my ISP's server. And yes I'm using localhost similar to what I show above. And I've tried it from my.work.server to my account on my ISP but have the same problem so the problem is something on my.work.server. Is it possible for the firewall to block a reverse tunnel (without blocking outgoing ssh)? Rick B. Rick, What do you see if you add -v to the ssh -p 2022 [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Also, what if you, instead of using localhost, use the ip address of your eth0 interface in the previous command? If you do that and, in another terminal, do a tcpdump -i eth0 -vv -l port 2022 do you see the connection attempt being made to the port? Also try adding -v to the connection where you are creating the tunnel and then watch the output of that connection as you try to make a connection back over the tunnel. FWIW, I just did your exact setup with two machines that I have and it worked perfectly (prompted me for passwords and then the logins worked). I added -v to both the tunnel creation and then the reverse use of the tunnel and saw some fun stuff. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list I will try this tomorrow and capture the results. I have done this but haven't had time to document everything. Thanks. I did try replacing localhost with the IP address of the computer but, if memory serves, nothing happens (no message, no connection). I also turned off portsentry but it did not fix things. I'm going to use my F8 laptop to replace the server temporarily and see if it works with the laptop. Rick B. I hooked up my laptop to the network and was able to create the reverse tunnel using the steps I'd shown. So it's not the network. Something on the server is set differently. I'm not sure I can take any more time to figure it out given I'm planning on upgrading the server from F8 to F9. Thanks for everyone's help in trying to figure it out. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:53 PM, fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could the relevant persons please provide an update to fedora 9 as soon as possible? thanks very much. there are a lot of updates and fixes, just type yum update very angry cool down please, there is a very big effort behind fedora, so please don't just say (What is the matter with fedora), there are already a lot of answers and solutions for your problems -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Network connection issue
Jim Douglas wrote: Cable Modem. It is a valid IP. I have a second HD connected to this computer and when I switch to it I can connect to the internet no problem, I am posting from it right now.. I am thinking I may have had the Services window open and clicked on something by accident pinging is fine, a remote Ip times out... Jim Your dual booting fedora and windows? Fedora 8 or 9? What are the first two numbers of your IP? An ip that starts with 169.254.x.x is not valid on any network(not strictly true), if you have one of these then you are not getting a valid ip via dhcp. If your address begins with 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x then you have a private ip, which seems likely if you can ping the gateway but not a remote host. Please copy and paste the commands your using to ping from the terminal. Is the network manager service running? What is the status of the network service? Look in the services GUI and note the icon's color and the plug next to it. Highlight the service and you will get the details. So on my f9 box the network manager shows a green icon and a plug that looks plugged in( service enabled and running), while the network service shows a red icon and a plug that is plugged in(service disabled and running). On an F8 box the GUI is slightly different and does not show the helpful little icons but if you highlight the service it will give you a few details. The network manager should be running and the network service should show the interfaces that are configured to start at boot time and currently active interfaces but there probably/shouldn't be a check in the box next to it. Remember what you do every step of the way or even *better* take notes so you don't have to remember :^) Why did you have the services tab open in the first place? Have you been playing with the firewall config? -- You don't know the power of the dark side --Darth Vader -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Fedora Gurus, I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org site. It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it Any comments? Dave Too many ways to obtain the ISO so they winged it: http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify Short version -- Obtain ISO via torrent (also Jigdo) no need to check. HTTP and FTP get SHA1SUM from same directory as .iso. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC?
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:51 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters. There is nothing to program as long as the wireless AP is detectable from both offices. -- === I'll be Grateful when they're Dead. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He wants his router to connect to the other router and then give his pc access thru *his* router. He doesn't want to connect directly to the other AP, at least that's how I read. -- Use your aggressive feelings, boy.--Emperor Palpatine -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh tunnel problems
2008/6/24 Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't followed this thread closely but... On the server that does not work do you know if the line AllowTcpForwarding yes is present in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? --Mike I checked and it was set to no but commented. I set it to yes and un-commented it, restarted the network, but still same error message. I will have more time tomorrow to redo and include -v, etc. You did also restart the sshd service, right? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Kam Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Fedora Gurus, I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org site. It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it Any comments? Dave Too many ways to obtain the ISO so they winged it: http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify Short version -- Obtain ISO via torrent (also Jigdo) no need to check. HTTP and FTP get SHA1SUM from same directory as .iso. It's not obvious, but, the links on the web page are to SHA1SUM for the respective iso image. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: remote app -- local data
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:58:43 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will the remote machine support sshfs? If so, you could mount the local drive on the remote machine over a ssh link. Now that looks like it will do exactly what I want it to do, in the way that I want it to do it. I shall do some experimenting with this. Thanks! -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 52, Issue 212
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 15:02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK you were the ones who didn't want me to top post and wanted me to keep the reply subject even though it is pretty non-descript. In what way is replying to a Digest keeping the reply subject? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
I have reinstalled Fedora 9 (not an upgrade) onto a system that used to run F7 fine (except for a new video card, see below). Now I am seeing intermittent system hangs or lockups; probably about 2 or 3 per day. This happens most often if I'm scrolling a page in Firefox with the mouse wheel, but it has happened a few other times too. Usually when this happens I'm doing very little other than viewing a webpage or typing at the terminal shell. No music or video is playing; screen saver is not running. Usually the only major apps in use when this happens are Firefox, Thunderbird, terminals, and emacs. I have not enabled any of the Gnome desktop effects. When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but it is very jumpy and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely unresponsive (not just slow). Nothing visible on the screen updates at all, mouse clicks are not registered, keyboard input does nothing. I can not even switch out to a console window, or any of the ctrl+alt sequences. The only thing I can do is to do a hard power-off and reboot. When the system comes back up I can not find any information about what may have happened. Log files just go silent at the instant the hang occurs. All F9 updates are applied. Running kernel 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686. No custom drivers or packages, and very little customization...mainly out-of-the-box Fedora. This system is a Dell Optiplex GX270 (4-5 yrs old) with a Pentium 4 3GHz cpu with hyperthreading enabled, 1 MB ram. I am using LVM and LUKS encryption on the swap and /home. The only hardware change in the system was replacing my old PCI graphics card (Matrox Millenium II) with a brand new ATI Stealth X1050 AGP. This was necessary because the F9 graphical install was unusable; as the old card only had VGA output and the installer's X11 could not properly auto-detect the LCD widescreen monitor and was trying to drive it at too high a frequency. I needed to have DVI output for the F9 graphical install to work; so I had to get a new video card. Does anybody have any ideas what might be happening; and is there anything I can do to help diagnose this problem or obtain more information that may be useful? -- Deron Meranda -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but it is very jumpy and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely unresponsive (not just slow). That sounds like it suddenly ran out of memory. Try echo 2 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory echo 80 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ration and see if instead you suddenly see lots of out of memory errors and applications going away ctrl+alt sequences. The only thing I can do is to do a hard power-off and reboot. Does anything make /var/log/messages ? This system is a Dell Optiplex GX270 (4-5 yrs old) with a Pentium 4 3GHz cpu with hyperthreading enabled, 1 MB ram. I am using LVM and LUKS encryption on the swap and /home. 1MB or 1GB. 1MB might be a bit slow so I suspect the latter ;) I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect The only hardware change in the system was replacing my old PCI graphics card (Matrox Millenium II) with a brand new ATI Stealth X1050 AGP. This was necessary because the F9 graphical install was unusable; as the old card only had VGA output and the installer's X11 could not properly auto-detect the LCD widescreen monitor and was trying to drive it at too high a frequency. I needed to have DVI output for the F9 graphical install to work; so I had to get a new video card. Which video driver are you using ? Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?
Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Kam Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Fedora Gurus, I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org site. It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it Any comments? Dave Too many ways to obtain the ISO so they winged it: http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify Short version -- Obtain ISO via torrent (also Jigdo) no need to check. HTTP and FTP get SHA1SUM from same directory as .iso. It's not obvious, but, the links on the web page are to SHA1SUM for the respective iso image. These are the SHA1SUMs for the first release. I don't think there's a full respin yet. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 f92576227484a4eeda0e86a497836c67c34d20ef Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso d1a21883b3dde424029498d6acdc56093d67c06b Fedora-9-x86_64-disc1.iso cb303c3d27d358491af1eb2df4f5583e4806f395 Fedora-9-x86_64-disc2.iso d2c6b3bf0d5313ad8729eb94b759fc878d6afc5e Fedora-9-x86_64-disc3.iso 7080e1e233db56effc1da20310d62f9fd5dc9ef4 Fedora-9-x86_64-disc4.iso 9f59d5e57bcd2d80fec4abd888728acf706ac1f7 Fedora-9-x86_64-disc5.iso eee3f94f18624702ae25bf4b0d294c29aa616a4d Fedora-9-x86_64-disc6.iso 659217cb38e4b9534249ff859eb4728907668e98 Fedora-9-x86_64-disc7.iso feff66dde8ca568c23852d6dcd971c95264b7cb4 Fedora-9-x86_64-netinst.iso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkgja/EACgkQtEJp0E8qb9JS+gCfV3pxicDvMiDaJqFbKwIddfIa 4nIAn3q07NIPrJU65BebS7n9Df8pIgOH =pWTI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 50253a35b5ba128c9a57b2a10cbd829813fc5119 Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso af25833a3babe1bd943dae16a1c17cf7a9e0b767 Fedora-9-i386-disc1.iso d4ffbe83cd75bf0153e821af98b7e56f5b4f6c32 Fedora-9-i386-disc2.iso 579702ea19a5e4114186a665735823dd4b5269b6 Fedora-9-i386-disc3.iso 368e98bf95708d040f83be975c0ede372f32d44b Fedora-9-i386-disc4.iso 67426850ce065a048d0a04eecb003b383b6f5830 Fedora-9-i386-disc5.iso c01ccd2d3811ab1f04cacba63e51690b34629f95 Fedora-9-i386-disc6.iso 3b1df20ece05d64c34dd9c64400975b74eded0f2 Fedora-9-i386-netinst.iso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkgiX4AACgkQtEJp0E8qb9LLZACfZD/jeqvSfQRQM9EAzGku9mrK EFwAnRdS28Q9onwS6rExI4vBrS0Ytpt/ =OG7t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - Do you suffer from long-term memory loss? I don't remember - --- Chumbawumba, Amnesia (TubThumping) - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: compiz-fusion-gnome?
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 13:06 +, Tom Horsley wrote: Just idle curiosity while waiting for yum... Anyone know why installing the latest compiz-fusion-gnome update is spending what seems like hours running gconftool-2? I noticed that, too. I thought it had crashed, but I left it running while I did other things, and it eventually finished off. Pegged the CPU pretty heavily, though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC?
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 09:29:36 am max wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:51 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters. There is nothing to program as long as the wireless AP is detectable from both offices. -- === I'll be Grateful when they're Dead. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He wants his router to connect to the other router and then give his pc access thru *his* router. He doesn't want to connect directly to the other AP, at least that's how I read. yes, that's right. d -- Use your aggressive feelings, boy.--Emperor Palpatine -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Where are they hiding the source files now??
Hi; Where do I get the Fedora 9 SRPMs? I have an old URL and I can't seem to find a clear link from the Wiki. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are they hiding the source files now??
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 15:56 -0400, William Case wrote: Where do I get the Fedora 9 SRPMs? I have an old URL and I can't seem to find a clear link from the Wiki. Let yum take care of that. Install the yum-utils package and use the yumdownloader tool. :) $ yumdownloader --source package-name -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint: DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Install problems
I ran fedora 8 on this system but had to replace the motherboard. The new one has the Intel X38 chipset. I can't find anywhere a list of what is supported. I have a fedora 8 live cd and it boots fine and works. When I try to re-enstall fedora 8 or 9 from installation disks I get the following error when I run in the text mode: /dev/sdg:isw and ddf1 formats discovered (using ddf1) ERROR: ddf1: cannot find virtual drive record on /dev/sdg At this point, the system locks up and I haven't been able to get a prompt to try to find out whats happening. Any Ideas? Any help would be appreciated. Regards Bill-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are they hiding the source files now??
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:56 PM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; Where do I get the Fedora 9 SRPMs? I have an old URL and I can't seem to find a clear link from the Wiki. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 What is your old url? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/source/SRPMS/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/9/SRPMS/ As far as I can tell these haven't changed. -Mauriat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
O I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect Well, I looked a little closer and it may be my fault. The LVM I have swap in was only 32 MB in size, not the 32 GB I had intended! So my swap is way smaller than my physical memory. Would that excessively small swap space size had resulted in the abrupt hanging behavior I had witnessed? If something suddenly ate a lot of memory. I'm going to try to resize things and get my swap back up to 32 GB. A little tricky due to LUKS being in the mix, but I should be able to do it. Once you've done that run it for a bit and see if it seems to be gradually eating through swap. The overcommit test will probably work sanely as well with 1GB+ of swap 8) Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Selinux and awstats
Claude Jones wrote: I once had awstats on this machine, but it's been long ago removed. I've had a persistent flood of error messages ever since that I can't seem to find the cause of. They look like this: /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple different specifications for /var/lib/awstats(/.*)? (system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_rw_t:s0 and system_u:object_r:awstats_var_lib_t:s0). When you had it installed did you have to create policy for it or was there already a policy written for it? I would guess that these files are getting conflicting labels?contexts? You might try bouncing this off the fedora-selinux list instead. /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple different specifications for /usr/share/awstats/wwwroot/cgi- bin(/.*)? (system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_exec_t:s0 and system_u:object_r:httpd_awstats_script_exec_t:s0). When booting up, I can get a whole screenful of these things. Every time I run smartpm, I get them. I've tried editing references to awstats out of the indicated files, which seems to work briefly, but then the messages return. -- Fortune favors the *BOLD* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Where are they hiding the source files now??
Hi Thanks to you and Peter Gordon On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 16:03 -0400, Mauriat wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:56 PM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; Where do I get the Fedora 9 SRPMs? I have an old URL and I can't seem to find a clear link from the Wiki. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 What is your old url? http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/source/SRPMS/ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/9/SRPMS/ As far as I can tell these haven't changed. I had an old address http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/source/SRPMS/ I knew it was out of date, but couldn't find a clear link on the Wiki home page or the download page. -Mauriat -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC?
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 12:53 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: On Tuesday 24 June 2008 09:29:36 am max wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:51 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters. There is nothing to program as long as the wireless AP is detectable from both offices. -- === I'll be Grateful when they're Dead. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He wants his router to connect to the other router and then give his pc access thru *his* router. He doesn't want to connect directly to the other AP, at least that's how I read. yes, that's right. d Ok. I believe you, but why do you need to do that. he effect is the same as the setup I described. -- -- === When neither their poverty nor their honor is touched, the majority of men live content. -- Niccolo Machiavelli === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SATA - System Freezes
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Nifty Hat Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:13:54 -0700, Robin Laing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henry Ritzlmayr wrote: Am Freitag, den 20.06.2008, 09:37 -0600 schrieb Robin Laing: Henry Ritzlmayr wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 19.06.2008, 09:52 -0600 schrieb Robin Laing: Henry Ritzlmayr wrote: Am Dienstag, den 17.06.2008, 13:25 -0400 schrieb Jorge FÃÆ'¡bregas: Hello Everyone, I'm running Fedora 8 and my system freezes (for about 20 to 40 seconds) a couple of times a day. When it does I see this on /var/log/messages: Is smartd enabled? Is smartd configured correctly for this disk? Some smartd actions will take a disk off line for some tests. When those tests are running other commands to the disk may time out. Thus the smartd daemon could be triggering the dead time. IMO, smartd is a cool tool. It does catch lots of disk failures in time to back up and replace the disk. It also can do things that are unexpected. Checking back in the archives the SMART question was asked, but it was not clear in the answer that SMART was disabled both in the BIOS and the drive. If the BIOS has SMART enabled the drive could still stall for various time periods when a self test was running. -- Nifty Hat Mitch T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Network connection issue
Well, I recently had a power failure and when I rebooted there was a problem with the startup. I figured FC would take care of it just like windows does and there'd be no problem. I'm not so sure it did, a file may have gotten corrupted somewhere. Anyway, I am on version 6 and have been meaning to upgrade but I didn't have the time but rather than spend any more time on this I am going to do a fresh install of FC9. I'm sure that will take care of it. Thank all, Jim Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:21:37 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Network connection issue Jim Douglas wrote: Cable Modem. It is a valid IP. I have a second HD connected to this computer and when I switch to it I can connect to the internet no problem, I am posting from it right now.. I am thinking I may have had the Services window open and clicked on something by accident pinging is fine, a remote Ip times out... Jim Your dual booting fedora and windows? Fedora 8 or 9? What are the first two numbers of your IP? An ip that starts with 169.254.x.x is not valid on any network(not strictly true), if you have one of these then you are not getting a valid ip via dhcp. If your address begins with 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x then you have a private ip, which seems likely if you can ping the gateway but not a remote host. Please copy and paste the commands your using to ping from the terminal. Is the network manager service running? What is the status of the network service? Look in the services GUI and note the icon's color and the plug next to it. Highlight the service and you will get the details. So on my f9 box the network manager shows a green icon and a plug that looks plugged in( service enabled and running), while the network service shows a red icon and a plug that is plugged in(service disabled and running). On an F8 box the GUI is slightly different and does not show the helpful little icons but if you highlight the service it will give you a few details. The network manager should be running and the network service should show the interfaces that are configured to start at boot time and currently active interfaces but there probably/shouldn't be a check in the box next to it. Remember what you do every step of the way or even *better* take notes so you don't have to remember :^) Why did you have the services tab open in the first place? Have you been playing with the firewall config? -- You don't know the power of the dark side --Darth Vader -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list _ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashback-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: rsh issue (access denied)...
Hi Alexander...
Thanks for the reply... I'd already changed the
/etc/xinetd.d/rsh,rlogin, files but forgot to list them.
The files as they exist are:
/etc/xinetd.d/rexec::
# description: Rexecd is the server for the rexec(3)
routine. The server \
# provides remote execution facilities with
authentication based \
# on user names and passwords.
service exec
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rexecd
disable = no
}
/etc/xinetd.d/rsh::
# default: on
# description: The rshd server is the server for the
rcmd(3) routine and, \
# consequently, for the rsh(1) program. The server
provides \
# remote execution facilities with authentication
based on \
# privileged port numbers from trusted hosts.
service shell
{
disable = no
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rshd
}
/etc/xinetd.d/rlogin::
# default: on
# description: rlogind is the server for the rlogin(1)
program. The server \
# provides a remote login facility with
authentication based on \
# privileged port numbers from trusted hosts.
service login
{
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
log_on_success+= USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
server = /usr/sbin/in.rlogind
disable = no
}
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Alexander Apprich
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:48 AM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: Re: rsh issue (access denied)...
Hi Bruce,
just a wild guess...
check /etc/xinetd.d/rsh and /etc/xinetd.d/rlogin if they
contain
disabele = yes
if so, change it to
disable = no
and restart xinetd
Try a:
# chkconfig --list | less
and confirm that the services you require are on. If not, use chkconfig (man
pages) to turn them on (reboot may be required, if you don't know how to start
the daemons manually). However, if they are already marked as on, then there
are likely configuration problems in /etc/hosts.equiv or .rhosts (whichever you
are using) on the machine running the daemons. Both files should have man pages
outlining syntax.
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Fedora 9, multi-monitor, multi-card woes
Hello all, From FC1 to F8 inclusive, I have used the same hardware to have a fully-spanned desktop using three cards across four monitors. Rather than being too ambitious at the moment, I am merely trying to get three separate non-cloned desktops across three different cards. Here is lspci output: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] (rev a3) 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 05:01.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) If I run with no xorg.conf file at all, or one generated by doing something trivial in system-config-display, I can get output on one monitor attached to the Quadro NVS (AGP), using the nv driver. As soon as I try to include one of the Geforce2 (PCI) cards in the ServerLayout, either with a hand-hewn config, or one generated by X -configure, my X session will hang at start. Nothing on the screen. To reduce variables further, I tried running single output using one of the GeForce2 cards, also hangs. No warnings or errors in the logs. I confirmed xorg detects all the cards properly: (--) PCI:*([EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] rev 163, Mem @ 0xc100/0, 0xd800/0, 0xe000/0, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (--) PCI: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] rev 178, Mem @ 0xc300/0, 0xe800/0, BIOS @ 0x/65536 (--) PCI: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0) nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] rev 178, Mem @ 0xc400/0, 0xf000/0, BIOS @ 0x/65536 Additionally, the NV driver sees them: (II) Primary Device is: PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:0 (--) NV: Found NVIDIA Quadro NVS at [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:0 (--) NV(0): NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:0 (--) NV(0): NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]:01:0 Here is the process tree when I successfully run off of the Quadro AGP card: 2463 ?Ss 0:00 login -- hardyjm 2658 tty1 Ss 0:00 \_ -bash 2896 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx 2914 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- -auth /home/hardyjm/.serverauth.2896 2915 tty7 Ss+0:02 \_ X :0 -auth /home/hardyjm/.serverauth.2896 2940 ?Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ck-xinit-session /usr/bin/ssh-agent /home/hardyjm/.Xclients 2957 ?Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/gnome-session 2959 ?Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent /home/hardyjm/.Xclients 3071 ?S 0:00 \_ metacity --sm-client-id=default1 3074 ?S 0:00 \_ gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2 3075 ?S 0:01 \_ nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3 3084 ?Sl 0:00 \_ gpk-update-icon 3088 ?S 0:00 \_ python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py 3240 ?S 0:00 \_ pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0 3241 ?S 0:00 \_ /sbin/pam_timestamp_check -d root And here is where it wedges trying to run with the PCI cards enabled in addition to the AGP card, or trying to use just one of the PCI cards. I also tried using the vesa driver instead of the nv driver, same result: 2411 ?Ss 0:00 login -- hardyjm 2448 tty1 Ss 0:00 \_ -bash 2532 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx 2550 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- -auth /home/hardyjm/.serverauth.2532 2551 tty7 Rs+0:29 \_ X :0 -auth /home/hardyjm/.serverauth.2532 Attached is my xorg.conf file from X -configure, if someone could do me the courtesy of looking it over. Also attached is the Xorg.0.log file resulting from a wedged run from this config. Note that this config works perfectly with one monitor as long as only Screen0 is defined in the ServerLayout section, and as long as Screen0 refers to the AGP card. Thanks. -Jeff Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 Screen 2 Screen2 RightOf Screen1 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules FontPath catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d FontPath built-ins EndSection Section Module Load GLcore Load vnc Load extmod Load dbe Load dri Load glx Load xtrap Load dri2 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option
Re: Wireless problems. UPDATE
Mark Haney wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:50 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: Did it get rid of the multiple copies? Did it correctly detect the cards? It did. Until a second reboot. Then they came back. In /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-interface, is there a HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx line? A that point, I'd consider filing a bug. John Linville handles the wireless stuff, and he's usually been pretty responsive. The problem is, I don't know what the problem is, so don't know what to file. It probably doesn't make too much difference, in the sense that wherever you file, you'll get help troubleshooting. If none of the connectivity tools leads to a connection, I'd probably start with the kernel (Linville's beat), suspecting that it's a wireless driver issue. It can always be reassigned later if troubleshooting leads you to some other component. Probably not a bad idea. Yes, there is a HWADDR= line. And it matches with the address that shows up in dmesg. I noticed you're at Clemson. I was down there last month for CIDays. The campus is much prettier than I remember the last time I was there. (Which, sadly, was the Fumble-rooski Bobby Bowden pulled against you.) Well, I figured since I was having trouble getting wireless on my F8 desktop, that I would go ahead and upgrade to F9. Was not as pleasant an experience as all my previous upgrades have been, however. On my first attempt to upgrade the system hung right at the end of the install process causing me to start over. Fortunately, the second try finished the process correctly and I could boot into F9 fine. X didn't come up clean, but a reconfig of the display fixed that. Something I've /never/ had to do on previous upgrades. However, from the CLI my wireless card came up beautifully manually, including using a static IP address. For some reason dhcp6c didn't get me an IP address from the AP. Weird. Anyway, now I'm really wondering, why the hell are there so many F8 rpms still left on this box? I use no 3rd party repos at all on this system since most everything I need is in the standard repo. I upgraded using the F9 DVD so it wasn't like nearly everything wasn't available from the install media. So, for now, I'm happy, I have wireless back on this box. I'll let you know how it works after maintenance and some reboots. Thanks to everyone for all the help. As always, the Fedora list is the best one around. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:53:37 +0200 fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking. Don't know about the other problems, but for me this makes networking function just like always: chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off chkconfig --level 2345 network on reboot That turns off NetworkManager and goes back to the old nasty stick-in-the-mud networking that actually works :-). NetworkManager may be good for folks with laptops who flit about from one hotspot to another, but it is hopeless for us more ordinary network users who have static IPs or even DHCP networks initialized at boot time and unchanging after that. It should never have arbitrarily been made the default. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9, multi-monitor, multi-card woes
Jeffrey M. Hardy wrote: Hello all, From FC1 to F8 inclusive, I have used the same hardware to have a fully-spanned desktop using three cards across four monitors. Rather than being too ambitious at the moment, I am merely trying to get three separate non-cloned desktops across three different cards. Here is lspci output: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] (rev a3) 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 05:01.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) We see that a lot here. What is happening is that no single driver will handle both of those cards. Your choices are: 1. (recommended) dump the $20.00 MX 400 for something made this century. :) 2. run both the legacy and the new nvidia drivers. This is a REAL PITA and takes a level of expertise nearing black magic to make work. If you are not a wizard class admin, don't attempt it. :) When my users bring be machines with mismatched junk video cards to install, I tell them strait up that for the time it would take to make it work, I could make enough money to buy a new top of the line Nvidia or ATI card. Think about it. Good Luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: More data: The problem went away for a while for no apparent reason. Hence, I haven't posted in a while. I turned off my computer when I went away for a weekend. you should have stayed home or left computer on. I turned it on yesterday and today the problem is back. or, left it off. :o) Any ideas? previous post are on other system. will have to login on it to see what all has been gone thru. back later after i check. Thanks. Assuming that I can get to anothe virtual terminal, is there a way to ask which processes are using the X display? Better yet, is there a way to find out which process has a lock or created the top window? I'm at work now and can't test any theories. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
OpenOffice and Graphics
All, I am trying to open a M$ word document with graphics and unable to view pictures while the text is displayed properly. The OpenOffice version is 2.4.1. However, the same file is opened and all the graphics are viewable on a Ubuntu (8.04) machine which is running OpenOffice version 2.4.0 and 2.4.1. Not sure where and what to look for to find and fix the issue. Thanks in advance for any help. Srikanth -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC?
Dave Stevens wrote: I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters. Dave you need to put your wireless access point in client mode. you will probably need a standalone wireless access point. (combo wireless/router/dsl/switch/kitchensink devices usually cannot do this) i use a linksys WAP54G to do this:(page 40 of the WAP54G-v3_ug.pdf details client mode) [pc]...[wirelessAPinClientMode])) (([FriendlyNeighborhoodWirelessAP/dsl modem] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Live CD Question: Boot from USB for initrd but load system from different location?
I have a laptop on loan that I want to use Fedora with but I don't want to modify the disk partitions for obvious reasons (its not mine, it's on loan). I got the livecd working on a USB memory stick but I didn't like having it sticking out all the time, plus after a while of running it seemed to get I/O errors and locked up on me. I successfully installed the livecd to a SD card in the multi card reader using livecd-iso-to-usb, however, the system will not boot to it. So my question is: How would I go about using the USB stick to boot from for the initrd/syslinux portion but then hand off the booting process to the SD card in the card reader for the live image? That way I could remove the USB stick after booting. I'm not real familiar with the initrd but I assume I would have to recreate/modify one to include the kernel modules for the card reader at the least. An additional question is could I then have a persistent overlay on the hard drive (NTFS partition)? That way when I'm done with the laptop I can just delete the overlay file. It would also keep the writes going to a hard drive instead of wearing out my flash memory. Thanks, Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OpenOffice and Graphics
I have removed the openoffice from Fedora 9 (yum remove openoffice.org-core.i386) and installed the version 2.4.1 which i have downloaded from openoffice.org. That fixed it. Srikanth Konjarla wrote: All, I am trying to open a M$ word document with graphics and unable to view pictures while the text is displayed properly. The OpenOffice version is 2.4.1. However, the same file is opened and all the graphics are viewable on a Ubuntu (8.04) machine which is running OpenOffice version 2.4.0 and 2.4.1. Not sure where and what to look for to find and fix the issue. Thanks in advance for any help. Srikanth -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
newbie here... trying to make linux work as a gui interface with postgresql... found fc9 unworkable too as compared to fc8our own opinion is that fc9 has implemented some features we don't understand. e.eg. off the bat, after installation...the samba services status appear unknown in the services window...I think so do other services (somebody posted a reason for it I think... but it involves several 'classic' prompt windows edits...) so for now we are sticking to fc8...thankful for all the efforts plugged into the fedora project in general... but just wishing we understood the thinking behind the changes in fc9... - Original Message - From: Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: Re: What is the matter with fedora 9? On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:53:37 +0200 fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking. Don't know about the other problems, but for me this makes networking function just like always: chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off chkconfig --level 2345 network on reboot That turns off NetworkManager and goes back to the old nasty stick-in-the-mud networking that actually works :-). NetworkManager may be good for folks with laptops who flit about from one hotspot to another, but it is hopeless for us more ordinary network users who have static IPs or even DHCP networks initialized at boot time and unchanging after that. It should never have arbitrarily been made the default. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: I'm at work now and can't test any theories. i just sent you a message off list. have a look at it and reply back thru it. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
First of all, Tom didn't qualify his comments on NetworkManager which is very useful in some instances and apparently is installed as the default networking daemon if you install from Live CD. His suggestion to turn it off: - lacked any suggestion that you need to turn on the regular 'network' daemon in its place instead - lacked any consideration of wireless or dhcpcd client needs With respect your your efforts making Fedora 9 work to your expectations, you've sort of proven your own problems to yourself but contributed nothing to fixing any issues that may exist. One of the great things about this list is that if you can figure out how to ask the questions, you can get your problems solved. Craig On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 07:02 +0800, Robert M. Bernabe wrote: newbie here... trying to make linux work as a gui interface with postgresql... found fc9 unworkable too as compared to fc8our own opinion is that fc9 has implemented some features we don't understand. e.eg. off the bat, after installation...the samba services status appear unknown in the services window...I think so do other services (somebody posted a reason for it I think... but it involves several 'classic' prompt windows edits...) so for now we are sticking to fc8...thankful for all the efforts plugged into the fedora project in general... but just wishing we understood the thinking behind the changes in fc9... - Original Message - From: Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: Re: What is the matter with fedora 9? On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:53:37 +0200 fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking. Don't know about the other problems, but for me this makes networking function just like always: chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off chkconfig --level 2345 network on reboot That turns off NetworkManager and goes back to the old nasty stick-in-the-mud networking that actually works :-). NetworkManager may be good for folks with laptops who flit about from one hotspot to another, but it is hopeless for us more ordinary network users who have static IPs or even DHCP networks initialized at boot time and unchanging after that. It should never have arbitrarily been made the default. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
sorry I forgot to mention that we posted the bug in bugzilla already...although it's probably really low priority since it's just a gui status bug and only the gui doesn't work ...command prompt edits fixes it...the other services that have an unknown status...well we haven't gotten around to figuring out why they are like that...will post details in bugzilla though...sorry what I meant was from fc7-8 it was a seemless upgrade but we really hit roadblocks with fc9 and we are still trying to figure out why...although honestly we are more concentrated on pg right now...we just tried fc9 and rolled back to fc8. :( sorry again for the miscom... - Original Message - From: Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: Re: What is the matter with fedora 9? First of all, Tom didn't qualify his comments on NetworkManager which is very useful in some instances and apparently is installed as the default networking daemon if you install from Live CD. His suggestion to turn it off: - lacked any suggestion that you need to turn on the regular 'network' daemon in its place instead - lacked any consideration of wireless or dhcpcd client needs With respect your your efforts making Fedora 9 work to your expectations, you've sort of proven your own problems to yourself but contributed nothing to fixing any issues that may exist. One of the great things about this list is that if you can figure out how to ask the questions, you can get your problems solved. Craig On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 07:02 +0800, Robert M. Bernabe wrote: newbie here... trying to make linux work as a gui interface with postgresql... found fc9 unworkable too as compared to fc8our own opinion is that fc9 has implemented some features we don't understand. e.eg. off the bat, after installation...the samba services status appear unknown in the services window...I think so do other services (somebody posted a reason for it I think... but it involves several 'classic' prompt windows edits...) so for now we are sticking to fc8...thankful for all the efforts plugged into the fedora project in general... but just wishing we understood the thinking behind the changes in fc9... - Original Message - From: Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: Re: What is the matter with fedora 9? On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:53:37 +0200 fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking. Don't know about the other problems, but for me this makes networking function just like always: chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off chkconfig --level 2345 network on reboot That turns off NetworkManager and goes back to the old nasty stick-in-the-mud networking that actually works :-). NetworkManager may be good for folks with laptops who flit about from one hotspot to another, but it is hopeless for us more ordinary network users who have static IPs or even DHCP networks initialized at boot time and unchanging after that. It should never have arbitrarily been made the default. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9, multi-monitor, multi-card woes
Phil Meyer wrote: Jeffrey M. Hardy wrote: Hello all, From FC1 to F8 inclusive, I have used the same hardware to have a fully-spanned desktop using three cards across four monitors. Rather than being too ambitious at the moment, I am merely trying to get three separate non-cloned desktops across three different cards. Here is lspci output: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] (rev a3) 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 05:01.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) We see that a lot here. What is happening is that no single driver will handle both of those cards. Your choices are: 1. (recommended) dump the $20.00 MX 400 for something made this century. :) 2. run both the legacy and the new nvidia drivers. This is a REAL PITA and takes a level of expertise nearing black magic to make work. If you are not a wizard class admin, don't attempt it. :) When my users bring be machines with mismatched junk video cards to install, I tell them strait up that for the time it would take to make it work, I could make enough money to buy a new top of the line Nvidia or ATI card. Think about it. Good Luck! The thing is, the same driver always did. I've been running the kmod-nvidia-96xx series of drivers from livna for years, which supports both kinds of card. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated upstream to work with the newer kernel in F9. In its stead, the nv driver should do the trick for both types of card. And why would mixing drivers matter? Just a different Driver line in the config for each card. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: rsh issue (access denied)...
On 24Jun2008 13:59, gerrynix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Try a: | # chkconfig --list | less | and confirm that the services you require are on. [...] We know from the syslog lines that the service is on because there is a PAM auth error message for rsh. netstat -an | grep LISTEN should show the service being available, too. Port number 514, I think. I'd check the PAM authentication configuration. -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. - Hume -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FC 9 Installation IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error (2)
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 07:54:28PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 16:40 +0200, Daniel Kirsten wrote: Hallo, snip When the installation program installs the rpm-packages from the DVD, it stops after some hundred packages and gives a long python-related error message ending by IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error Then, the installation terminates... This looks like you're either having read errors off of the DVD or write errors to the drive. I've seen this with a bad DVD (media or drive) in the past. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
OT: Funny side of Linux
Dear all, I have found the following pages that might crack some laughs. They are meant to take some time off and enjoy the funny side of Linux. http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/05/04/funny-side-of-linux/ from the above page found the second. http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2006/05/propeller_head_dept.html If you have time and want to take a look go ahead. Otherwise please ignore this message with line OT: Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problem with NIS in Fedora 9
Greetings. We've installed Fedora 9 on a Pentium 4 system (i386). This system is part of a group of 20 or so systems that get NIS service from one of our servers. Most of the other systems in this group are running Fedora 8. The system in question is the only one running Fedora 9. On all the Fedora 8 systems the NIS service works just fine. On the Fedora 9 system the ypbind service seems to start but never really makes it all the way: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ypwhich ypwhich: Can't communicate with ypbind [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# service ypbind restart Shutting down NIS service: [ OK ] Starting NIS service: [ OK ] Binding NIS service: ... [ OK ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ypwhich ypwhich: Can't communicate with ypbind When this happens we get a message in /var/log/messages: Jun 24 21:08:50 f9sys ypbind: NIS domain: f9sysdom, NIS server: I.e., we have the correct domain name, but no server is ever listed. But on this system, as on all other systems in the group, we have in /etc/yp.conf: domain f9sysdom server our.nis.server We have checked that the problem does not seem to be related to iptables, TCP wrappers, or selinux. We also have our.nis.server listed in /etc/hosts, and hosts: files dns nis in /etc/nsswitch.conf, so it would seem not to be a DNS problem. If you have any thoughts about this, please send 'em my way. Thanks. -- Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: #4 -- how to not lock the screen
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, g wrote: i have gone back thru old post and tried again to locate just where kde hides config for locking desktop, it still evades. I did find, rather someone on the list told me, but it didn't matter. Thank you for the effort. I discovered the program: /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver . I have no idea why it was running on a KDE desktop: My desktop has a captital K stepping in a gear in the lower left corner. From another virtual terminal, xwininfo -tree -root showed me a 1280x1024 window named gnome-screensaver. I couldn't xkill it, but ps gave me its process ID. As a stopgap, I copied it to another name, removed the original, and made an empty file with all-zero permission bits. Presumably this will cause me trouble at update time. in a previous post, i suggested 1 - 4, you tried 1, 2. no joy, which leaves; 3) r r kde. 4) someone else this list | kde 'tech list' | read source. now, i would suggest skip #3. there was no 4-a. i doubt you want to go thru 4-c. I didn't understand r r anyway. so best bet would be 4-b. if that fails, then return to 3) r r kde. 5, which i did not want to mention, if 3 does not work, would be r r 'x'. fedora list is where kde 'hackers' hang out. i do believe that you will get a favorable response from kde as that is where actual 'writers' for kde hang out and they do respond to post. i do wish i could have helped you find a solution, but it was not meant to be. so, from my firefox bookmarks: K Desktop Environment = http://www.kde.org/ K Desktop Environment - KDE Mailing Lists = http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/ another suggestion, if you want stable, 'centos' or 'scientificlinux'. i tried 'centos' a few kernels back, removed it after about 10 minutes of wading thru. at that time, it just was not what i needed, so i am now going to install 'scientificlinux'. These are other distros, right? I'd read of scientificlinux lately, but don't remember where. with 'higher level of minds' that are involved with 'fnal' and 'cern', i do believe 'scientificlinux' will be more to what i need and have been looking for. good luck to you in finding a solution and even more so at ndus. Thanks. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] uncompressed size
Skunk Worx wrote: I'm using F9 and the livecd-tools-017.1-1.fc9.i386.rpm (from koji). When I try to build my iso from a config, I get a list of rpm names and sizes, then livecd-creator bails out. My set of rpms is large and apparently exceeds the 4096L * 1024 * 1024 default value set in imgcreate.py. I found this by removing some packages and seeing a successful completion. The older version of livecd-creator, used in F7, allowed me to alter the uncompressed-size via a command line argument. As a test, I added 512 to the 4096L and it seems to create the iso successfully with all desired packages. Does anyone have an opinion of how dangerous it is to change the default uncompressed size this way? I don't want to continue down this path if what I'm doing is considered grossly wrong. Actually I'm pretty sure these days it's far more harmless. The difference being that squashfs now supports sparse files more efficiently. Really I'm thinking more to my obscure case of wanting both that(ext3fs size) customizable* as well as the virtual disk size customizable. What the latter gets you is the ability to resize2fs upward online post boot (useful for very non-typical usage). (*) jkatz- I'm too busy/lazy to look at the code, but is the size now customizable via the intuitive kickstart directives? (e.g. size for / partition) -dmc Thanks, John -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Red Hat Prosumer Linux Proposal Announcement
I'm sorry I couldn't be at FUDcon this year, I wish there was a virtual extension of it, however. I look forward to all the news from it so I can put something on my blog. I want to know the latest on Fedora 10! In the meantime, I am getting ready to compose a second proposal, and I want to send it to Red Hat, can someone give me an address I can send it to? The idea is a step up from Fedora but a lite version of RHEL for Small Businesses or Homes with advanced needs. I call this OS : Red Hat Prosumer Linux, perhaps this would be the consumer linux everyone would love to have. The best of both worlds, the multimedia, fun, and community of Fedora with some of the advanced features that RHEL offers with limited tech support for a year. Unlike Red Hat Linux which was sold on store shelves, this OS would only be available at online Linux vendor sites as well as redhat.com. The software would be sold from $30 to $50. It would also be offered as a 30 day trialware, if anyone wants to keep it, they purchase the registration code for $50.Anyway, I think it's a great idea and something advanced Home Users are craving. If anyone like to help me with this proposal, my e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onward and forward! *Mark McLaughlin linuxglobe.wordpress.com Hudson, MA, USA* -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Linux Graphics, a Tale of Three Drivers
welcome a board. ;D -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fixing ffmpeg (was: people talking...)
I'd like to correct my previous post. I researched more about Gstreamer, and it *seems* like it does what we need. Of course this is a different problem than the ffmpeg structure we've been talking about, since gstreamer is much wider than a codec collection. However, if there are no publicly available (and easily downloadable, at least in source) gstreamer plugins to decode patent-encumbered formats (mp3 / mpeg4 / divx / wmv), then what I said in my previous post is accurate and we're stuck with ffmpeg. This implies that actions *MUST* be taken sooner or later, otherwise the year of desktop Linux will NEVER arrive. Can any GStreamer expert enlighten us about this problem (codec availability)? -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fixing ffmpeg (was: people talking...)
I'd like to add to the discussion a fact I just discovered. As far as I know (I spent a while googling, if I'm wrong someone correct me please), there is *NO* alternative for ffmpeg regarding codecs. There might be one or two codec source codes out there, but as a package, ffmpeg is the only one. Xine sure works in some things, but it's exclusive for gnu/linux (ffmpeg is cross-platform), and in some parts it ends up depending on ffmpeg. In other words, for all purposes, ffmpeg is indeed a monopoly (I'm not saying it's illegal or their fault, I'm just stating that there's no competition to ffmpeg yet). And as a result, we are at the mercy of one programming team and the decisions they make. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fixing ffmpeg
Ricardo Garcia wrote: I'd like to correct my previous post. I researched more about Gstreamer, and it *seems* like it does what we need. It does. Can any GStreamer expert enlighten us about this problem (codec availability)? Not a expert by any means but refer to http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/releases/gst-plugins-ugly/0.10.8.html Also, gstreamer-ffmpeg provides a bridge if you would prefer that. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Linux Graphics, a Tale of Three Drivers
welcome to the free side! 2008/6/24 Junior Tomazelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: welcome a board. ;D -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. NÃO IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM : -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl/devel perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec, 1.4, 1.5
Author: corsepiu
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl/devel
In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5587/devel
Modified Files:
perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec
Log Message:
* Tue Jun 24 2008 Ralf Corsépius [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.04-2
- Unconditionally BR: perl(Test::CPAN::Meta).
Index: perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec
===
RCS file:
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl/devel/perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5
--- perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec 10 Jun 2008 08:26:52 - 1.4
+++ perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl.spec 24 Jun 2008 09:54:45 - 1.5
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
Name: perl-File-Find-Rule-Perl
Version: 1.04
-Release: 1%{?dist}
+Release: 2%{?dist}
Summary: Common rules for searching for Perl things
License: GPL+ or Artistic
Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -18,10 +18,7 @@
# For improved tests
BuildRequires: perl(Test::Pod) = 1.00
BuildRequires: perl(Test::MinimumVersion) = 0.007
-%if 0%{?fedora} = 10
-# FIXME: Missing in Fedora 10
BuildRequires: perl(Test::CPAN::Meta) = 0.07
-%endif
%description
Common rules for searching for Perl things.
@@ -53,6 +50,9 @@
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Tue Jun 24 2008 Ralf Corsépius [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.04-2
+- Unconditionally BR: perl(Test::CPAN::Meta).
+
* Tue Jun 10 2008 Ralf Corsépius [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.04-1
- Upstream update.
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