InvinXble Updates
Hi all! Right now I delivered new materials for the InvinXble Theme. Let me know your guess. Solar Updates will follow Asap. Ciao Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: InvinXble Updates
Samuele Storari wrote: Right now I delivered new materials for the InvinXble Theme. Let me know your guess. I find the Anaconda splash interesting, I like the effect of the sword being larger than the background. With Anaconda Prompt I am not that happy, the banding is visible and ugly. BTW, I do not understand the specs for this image: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview#Anaconda_Prompt_Screen It is 640x300? 640x480 like F7 and F8? It is it really 16 colors or more like F7-F8? It looks like the specs changed and the page remained the same, does have anyone more insight? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
R: Re: InvinXble Updates
I'm glad u appreciate the splash. You're right about the prompt! For the 7 the 8 release it seems that the 16 color max was left apart. If it was, why we can't enjoy? :D Samuele - Messaggio originale - Da: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Inviato: Martedì, 26 agosto 2008 16:31:41 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: InvinXble Updates Samuele Storari wrote: Right now I delivered new materials for the InvinXble Theme. Let me know your guess. I find the Anaconda splash interesting, I like the effect of the sword being larger than the background. With Anaconda Prompt I am not that happy, the banding is visible and ugly. BTW, I do not understand the specs for this image: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview#Anaconda_Prompt_Screen It is 640x300? 640x480 like F7 and F8? It is it really 16 colors or more like F7-F8? It looks like the specs changed and the page remained the same, does have anyone more insight? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
InvinXble release poster rough.
I'd played with some idea, I know the grammar wasn't correct, but I know I need some help. It was just an idea borned on a paper sheet... https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d1/InvinXble_release_party_Poster.jpg Here I thinked aobut the 3 Words of the Fedora Concept, Freedom, Voice Infinity, in this case Infinity screw me :D The creativer idea behind is clear, but I really can't explain it well, I hope someone can help me. Idea? Guest and suggestion? Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: InvinXble F10 Theme round 2 step1
The invinXble theme is great. And the Anaconda and the splash themes look really nice. -klaatu On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Samuele Storari [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi guys! I posted on the wiki a first version of the round2 InvinXble proposal. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/InvinXble Let me know what do you think about it. Ciao Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/ogg.xml ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: InvinXble Updates
Hi Samuele, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all! Right now I delivered new materials for the InvinXble Theme. Let me know your guess. Solar Updates will follow Asap. I have to ask, what is your source for the katana graphic? Is it openly licensed? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:09 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: See the script made by jimmac (linked in the comments to his blog post): http://pastebin.ca/1071599 Thanks for the link. As noted in my yesterday's blog post [1], I expanded this script a little to better fit our needs [attachment]. I intend to do further expansions to make the lives of our artists even easier. Most notably I'd like to create these scripts to ease the life of echo artists and package them for fedora: * script to clone and set up the local git echo repository * script to update the local git repository * script to render and add the created icon (using One Canvas Workflow) to local git repository The lastly mentioned script would be ruby script, expansion of the attached one (it basically does everything already sans working with the git repo), the other two would probably be just bash scripts. I propose these names+usage of the scripts: * echo-set-up repo-destination-dir * echo-update repo-destination-dir * echo-add-icon repo-destination-dir icon-one-canvas-source-svg The package containing these three scripts could be named echo-artist. Any thoughts/suggestions/comments on these thoughts? Of course, I am completely new to ruby, so the code might not be the best... If you know how to improve it, feel free to do so, I'll push it to git once we decide on the final names of the scripts. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/08/echo-nodoka-one-canvas-ruby-and-new.html one-canvas.rb Description: application/ruby signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
rpms/pango/devel .cvsignore, 1.77, 1.78 pango.spec, 1.142, 1.143 sources, 1.77, 1.78
Author: behdad
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24209
Modified Files:
.cvsignore pango.spec sources
Log Message:
* Mon Aug 26 2008 Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.21.5-1
- Update to 1.21.5
Index: .cvsignore
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RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/devel/.cvsignore,v
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-pango-1.21.4.tar.bz2
+pango-1.21.5.tar.bz2
Index: pango.spec
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+++ pango.spec 26 Aug 2008 22:02:54 - 1.143
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
Summary: System for layout and rendering of internationalized text
Name: pango
-Version: 1.21.4
+Version: 1.21.5
Release: 1%{?dist}
License: LGPLv2+
Group: System Environment/Libraries
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%changelog
+* Mon Aug 26 2008 Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.21.5-1
+- Update to 1.21.5
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* Mon Aug 11 2008 Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.21.4-1
- Update to 1.21.4
Index: sources
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RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/devel/sources,v
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-75f8dea346a160f8f45c47cd30e6ab3b pango-1.21.4.tar.bz2
+9ceac82a22f0d18d54e444efb184fab3 pango-1.21.5.tar.bz2
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Broken link - mirrors.fp.o/publiclist failing since 8/19
Not clear why it's failing, but app4 is throwing 404s to this, though the content is there... - Forwarded message from Bennet Fauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:08:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bennet Fauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Broken link On the page at http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora the link to See all mirrors (which points to http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/ ) returns Not Found The requested URL /mirrorlists/publiclist//Fedora/9/ was not found on this server. as do the following http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/ http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/ http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/ http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ Maybe I'm missing something really obvious...? -- bennet -- Mathematics Department University of Michigan (734) 763-6521 -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list - End forwarded message - -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Puppet help - group membership on specific host
I need a puppet trick. We have a shared user, masher, that has write access to the mash/ directory on the koji store (but not the packages!). This user currently exists on nfs1 and releng2. On releng2 the user is used to run the rawhide creation cron, which involves running mock. To run mock, the user must be in the 'mock' group. However this group (which comes from the mock package) doesn't exist on nfs1 and we'd like to keep it that way. So, I need a way in puppet to express that the 'masher' user on releng2 needs to be in the mock group, but only on releng2. Any thoughts/examples? This is probably one of those puppet tricks we should have in a wiki somewhere. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: securing FAS certs
2008/8/21 Toshio Kuratomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey bright idea bringers! The Fedora Certificates issued by FAS are currently set to be autogenerated if you have an account in FAS. This has one drawback. We have to keep the password for the CA keys that sign the FAS certificates in a file on the filesystem so that the automatic signing can use them. Has anyone else had to confront this problem? Right now I'm thinking of coding something that involves human interaction to sign the certs and send email notifying people when their cert is ready to download. That's certainly doable, but introduces a wait time that isn't in the current design. I'd love input on better ways to do this. It depends on the level of security we are wanting. The most secure places I have been at always make sure there is a human in the loop, and that human's events are regularly and randomly audited. Even having hardware tokens to generate things (we had a device that was hooked in via a serial port so it did not need a kernel driver) for a high level of CIA you may want a set of humans looking at it. However it puts in a delay. We would put a 24 hour delay in getting/creating certs for people which meant we had time to confirm that the person really was supposed to get it etc.. If the delay and the fact that we aren't doing background checks on applicants, we probably want to do a multi-tier level of creating tokens. One set would be ones that people need to be vetted somehow and have more keys to the kingdom. The other set would be for people doing common work flow at the project. I wonder if we can come up with some serial port key generator. I think the design was a locked box where you keyed in the the master number via itsy-bitty dipswitches. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. The Merchant of Venice ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet help - group membership on specific host
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
I need a puppet trick. We have a shared user, masher, that has write
access to the mash/ directory on the koji store (but not the packages!).
This user currently exists on nfs1 and releng2. On releng2 the user is
used to run the rawhide creation cron, which involves running mock. To
run mock, the user must be in the 'mock' group. However this group
(which comes from the mock package) doesn't exist on nfs1 and we'd like
to keep it that way.
So, I need a way in puppet to express that the 'masher' user on releng2
needs to be in the mock group, but only on releng2.
Any thoughts/examples? This is probably one of those puppet tricks we
should have in a wiki somewhere.
how about something like:
user {
masher:
ensure = present,
[etcetc]
groups = $fqdn ? {
releng2 = [mock],
nfs1 = []
}
}
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nfs1 and a test kernel
Having some issues with lockd dying on nfs1 - kevin fenzi was nice enough to point out: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453094 which suggests trying one of the kernels from: http://people.redhat.com/dzickus/el5/ so - any objections if I try one of those on nfs1 to see if it cures what ails us? -sv -- I only speak for me. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: boot failures on very-large systems with CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED not set
On Monday 25 August 2008 14:27:16 Doug Chapman wrote: Sometime leading up to the F9 kernel my very large ia64 system (64 cpu 1TB ram, bunch of PCI busses and I/O) fails to boot. It appears to be something in how nash/mkinitrd gets information from sysfs. Since this is an early boot-time issue and nash isn't very easy to debug I am having trouble getting to the root of the issue (but I am still investigating). I have however found what change triggered this. The default config file used to have CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y set. Upstream kernel commit d47846c5866b7d98a1173c86a39d810a06647329 renamed this to CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2. It appears the default is still y however somehow with the transition the Fedora kernel now has this off. If possible I would like to see this get set to y for now. I will continue to debug this as it certainly _should_ boot just fine without this set. Even if we just turn it on for ia64 that works for me (but I imagine some new big x86_64 systems may run into it once they grow this large). Just committed the change to flip those on for ia64-only. -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Since F9, Images on Firefox Fuzzy
Dear friends, dear Carl, Yes, Firefox makes images blurry when I zoom the text - but apparently only under Fedora 9, not earlier Fedoras. At least, I never noticed before, but now big time. Take care Oliver On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Carl D. Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:48:08 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Dear friends, Since I upgraded to Fedore 9, all images appear fuzzy on Firefox. I have a Dell Latitude D820 laptop with a nVidia card and work with a resolution of 1680x1050. If I save the images and display them outside Firefox, they all look sharp. This is true for gif, jpg and svg. Try typing CTRL-0 in the Firefox window. If you inadvertantly zoomed the text in FF3 it may have zoomed the images too. This sometimes makes them look blurry. C -- fedora-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Post-Doc Researcher BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: Since F9, Images on Firefox Fuzzy
On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Dear friends, dear Carl, Yes, Firefox makes images blurry when I zoom the text - but apparently only under Fedora 9, not earlier Fedoras. At least, I never noticed before, but now big time. Take care Oliver Hi Oliver, If using Firefox 3, go to the View menu, go to Zoom and check the Zoom text only option. Best regards, Christopher Ranschaert. ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: Since F9, Images on Firefox Fuzzy
Dear friends, Thanks that helped! It did not occur to me until now that Firefox did not zoom images before. So it was a Firefox issue after all, which happened to get updated with Fedora. It would be nice, of course, to be able to zoom images and keep them sharp. I understand this is tough for gif and jpg, but it should work for svg. Take care Oliver On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Christopher Ranschaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 August 2008, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Dear friends, dear Carl, Yes, Firefox makes images blurry when I zoom the text - but apparently only under Fedora 9, not earlier Fedoras. At least, I never noticed before, but now big time. Take care Oliver Hi Oliver, If using Firefox 3, go to the View menu, go to Zoom and check the Zoom text only option. Best regards, Christopher Ranschaert. ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Post-Doc Researcher BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Re: [Fedora-spins] rpmfusion based spin
Also CC'ing the Fedora legal list which is also concerned with issues like the trademark guidelines. Paul On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 17:16 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: CC'ing the Fedora Spins SIG mailing list as this concerns most of the subscribers there as well. KH KH wrote: 2008/8/26 Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have been keep a tab on rpmfusion progress by reading the archives and it seems the repository is getting reading for launch soon. Congrats on that. My primary interest here at the moment is creating a spin based on rpmfusion and Fedora which Thorsten Leemhuis mentioned as desirable in one of his earlier mails to this list. I don't know if Thorsten ever mention such spin but having both rpmfusion and fedora on the same media is a very hard legal issue. Actually that's even not possible at all without removing the name Fedora from such spin. (meaning removing artworks and some others packages i don't remember). FWIW, if RPMFusion wishes to provide and distribute their own version of Fedora, including whatever packages not in Fedora, either Free or free or not free at all, right now this is enough: %packages # Remove the fedora-logos package and include something without # Fedora trademarked material -fedora-logos generic-logos (or: rpmfusion-logos if you have the artwork) # Include rpmfusion-release as well rpmfusion-release %end %post # Substitute the Fedora name in /etc/fedora-release and /etc/issue, # which are both owned by package fedora-release, so that it doesn't # pop up in all kinds of weird places such as when booting the machine # (Welcome to Press I to start interactive ... comes to mind). # Note that _all_ trademarks are supposed to be in fedora-logos. sed -i -e 's/Fedora/RPMFusion/g' /etc/fedora-release /etc/issue %end And you're done. To be more accurate: You can do such spins for yourself (either with free only or with nonfree packages), but you cannot redistribute the spin telling it is Fedora. (because it won't be fedora anymore). But you can (have to ?) tell this work is based (derived?) on Fedora. This (being able to say based on Fedora) is pending the new trademark policy at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/NewTrademarkGuidelines I hope this clarifies some of the issues wrt. a RPMFusion spin. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip ___ Fedora-spins mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-spins signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: question on a kernal uhhuh message
Paul Newell wrote regarding memtest86 results: I ran the test and it immediately failed. To make sure I was doing things right, I tried in on another machine (which worked) and am trying it on a third machine (which I will check in on tomorrow morning).. Though I am not seeing any problems running on the machine that reported the error during yum update, I am figuring I gotta hardware problem. One of my Frankenstein boxes, made from left over computer parts, had faulty RAM. The system would often run fine, there'd be occasional faults. I didn't know it had faulty memory at the time, it didn't have Linux on it, and had never been subjected to the memtest86 program. It was much later on that it got tested, and it failed the test every time. As an experiment, I left it running as a webserver. It continued to work most of the time, but would occasionally die. It must have just been luck that the faulty part of the memory wasn't being used, or was being used by something that didn't notice the fault. Moral of the story: A computer that apparently works fine can still have faults, you've just not seen them yet, or not associated some apparent software faults with actual hardware faults. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 23:51 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. As Rahul said, that sounds official. I second his view that the description should make it clear that you're getting peer support. I don't quite think we need to go as far as what one of the Ubuntu forums did, in saying that you needed to be very careful of following the advice you receive, as it may be malicious. I haven't seen that sort of thing on this list (e.g. malcontents advising rm -rfd /*), but then we don't know what any private replies might say. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: time stupidity
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 15:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I thought I was the only one running Windows on GMT? And you found that works? Some time ago I looked at pages about putting your hardware clock on GMT, and making Windows work with that like Linux does. There was a lot of information about Windows fouling it up, none about it actually working. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
FEDORA8: NOT GETTING TO DESKTOP AFTER MAKING LOGIN
HI, I am using fedora 8 and facing a serious trouble of Not getting on to my desktop or getting to it after 10 15 minutes. I have reinstalled fedora 8 and it has started showing me the same problem again but after a month of daily usage. The system is generally used for around 10 hours per day and fedora is being used as a SERVER OS to run MYSQL(auto start) JBOSS(started manually in terminal - no auto start). It has been confirmed from an engineer that there is no hardware problem. During booting of Fedora almost all the processes starts very quickly and I am being directed to the login window within minutes. But PROBLEM STARTS AFTER THIS WHEN I MAKE LOGIN EITHER THROUGH ROOT OR AS A NORMAL USER THEN IT DOES NOT SHOW DESKTOP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. the shocking thing is that this problem is not consistent i.e. it happens sometimes and not on a regular basis. But if it happens then my jboss does not work. FACT: Following 2 files always give a me failure report but still without them my system reaches to desktop quickly. SO THESE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A REASON BEHIND THE PROBLEM. During booting of fedora the file that does not start is as follows: Cups[failed] During shutting down of fedora the file that does not stop is as follows: Irqbalance [failed] Can somebody give me a solution to this problem .. Best Regards, Ankur -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8/F9 updates
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 04:08:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Fedora has changed its key now, new pushes requires packages to be (re)signed with the new key. Release engineering is still working out the details with Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. Thanks for the update. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: time stupidity
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 15:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I thought I was the only one running Windows on GMT? And you found that works? Some time ago I looked at pages about putting your hardware clock on GMT, and making Windows work with that like Linux does. There was a lot of information about Windows fouling it up, none about it actually working. I rarely use Windows and it doesn't matter to me if it runs on GMT without the change for daylight saving time! I don't require it to display local time. I don't see what possible problem that could cause? If it has I haven't noticed but then there are times when it doesn't get booted for months. But if I do boot Windows at least it doesn't make a second correction for the time change. Is there something wrong with that? Am I missing some obscure point? I have noticed that others apparently run Linux without local time since their messages display time + while they are obviously in the US. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FEDORA8: NOT GETTING TO DESKTOP AFTER MAKING LOGIN
you may have a problem to start X Window. try to boot into runlevel 3 (wihout X), then you already have a character based desktop. from there you may call X using startx and stop X using CTRL-ALT-BKSP. this may help you to find the error. suomi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I am using fedora 8 and facing a serious trouble of Not getting on to my desktop or getting to it after 10 – 15 minutes. I have reinstalled fedora 8 and it has started showing me the same problem again but after a month of daily usage. The system is generally used for around 10 hours per day and fedora is being used as a SERVER OS to run MYSQL(auto start) JBOSS(started manually in terminal - no auto start). It has been confirmed from an engineer that there is no hardware problem. During booting of Fedora almost all the processes starts very quickly and I am being directed to the login window within minutes. But PROBLEM STARTS AFTER THIS WHEN I MAKE LOGIN EITHER THROUGH ROOT OR AS A NORMAL USER THEN IT DOES NOT SHOW DESKTOP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. the shocking thing is that this problem is not consistent i.e. it happens sometimes and not on a regular basis. But if it happens then my jboss does not work. FACT: Following 2 files always give a me failure report but still without them my system reaches to desktop quickly. SO THESE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A REASON BEHIND THE PROBLEM. During booting of fedora the file that does not start is as follows: Cups[failed] During shutting down of fedora the file that does not stop is as follows: Irqbalance [failed] Can somebody give me a solution to this problem….. Best Regards, Ankur -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Cannot use yum
I have tried to install gd for php but i can't install got some error [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum -y install php php-gd Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit livna| 2.1 kB 00:00 fedora | 2.4 kB 00:00 http://apt.sw.be/fedora/9/en/i386/dag/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: dag. Please verify its path and try again Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 05:55 +0100, dexter wrote: On Tue August 26 2008 04:51:30 Chris Tyler wrote: This list, fedora-list@redhat.com, is one of the first lists that most Fedora users join, and therefore quite important to the community. However, it's a high-volume list (and is sometimes perceived to have a high noise level), so many veterans of the Fedora community aren't subscribed. As the result of discussion at the last public (IRC) board meeting, it's been proposed that narrow the scope of this list a bit. The current description of this list simply reads: fedora-users: For users of Fedora The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. Feedback on this proposed change is welcome. In addition, this list has been without an owner. Paul Frields and I have assumed ownership of the list, and we'd welcome one or two experienced members of the community to join us. It's good to see board members prepared to mix it with the great unwashed (err: users) but some questions: Is their an irc log of this public meeting?? I missed it. In this New low volume list, what who is off topic. How will this 'Help and support' take shape. More details/disscusion needed. No one implied this would be a low-volume list. Exactly the opposite; the high volume on fedora-list can continue unabated, but there's a better idea of what's on topic -- problems using Fedora, and how to fix them. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
No GD in Fedora 9
HI I am trying to use gd for some project in php. But i found that the gd is not installed. So downloaded the gd library manually and installed the source. but still the phpinfo() showing there is no GD installed. Where is the probelm in this. And I can't use the yum because of some error Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: dag. Please verify its path and try again Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: No GD in Fedora 9
Sanjay S Nair wrote: ... And I can't use the yum because of some error Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: dag. Please verify its path and try again And why don't you disable the dag repository temporarily as I suggested? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 09:43 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: This list, fedora-list@redhat.com, is one of the first lists that most Fedora users join, and therefore quite important to the community. However, it's a high-volume list (and is sometimes perceived to have a high noise level), so many veterans of the Fedora community aren't subscribed. As the result of discussion at the last public (IRC) board meeting, it's been proposed that narrow the scope of this list a bit. The current description of this list simply reads: fedora-users: For users of Fedora The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. Feedback on this proposed change is welcome. (1) I doubt if a change in the description of the list will make any difference. I for one long ago forgot the precise description, if I ever knew it. (2) I think the list works pretty well at present. The majority of postings seem to me to deal with problems that Fedora users have encountered. I think that's right. Having a better topic statement simply makes it easier for people to know when a discussion's off-topic, so they can have it elsewhere. Right now the statement is so general that it's difficult to know that. (3) The only way of reducing postings to the list - which seems to be the purpose of the exercise - would be to moderate it in some way. In my experience, moderating a newsgroup or mailing list involves a huge amount of time, which in your (or Paul Field's) case I would have thought would be better spent on something else. (note: Frields) :-) It's nice of you to be looking out for my time, and in all honesty I don't think I would have time to do true full-time moderation on a list with this much traffic. But I do check in on the list traffic from time to time just to see that folks are generally helping each other, in the spirit of the Fedora community. We want to gather a number of folks for this purpose because no one of us can do it all the time. (4) Basically, the proposal seems to be that the list should be censored in some way. I am not against that in principle, but I would like to know what would be disallowed. Eg would references to livna be removed? Not our purpose *at all*. We just want to work with the existing fedora-list community to ensure that users who are seeking help, advice -- hey Chris, there's another word you might want to use! -- and tips aren't overrun by threads on the composition of Gethsemane cheese. (Note to cheese lovers: Nothing against that type of cheese, I have personally enjoyed it many times.) Having a topical list is less confusing to users. I think in general this list does quite a good job of keeping on topic, but since other parts of our community have been on the receiving end of complaints, it would be unfair to ignore them. Changing the topic makes it clearer to people what's on-topic for this list, and it's easier to point to when someone goes off the topic. I don't foresee changing the way people give advice. That's what the community's all about -- helping each other. If you want to suggest that someone uses a solution from livna or some other third party repository as a way of helping that person, that's your prerogative as a helpful fellow community member. (5) The claim is that more experts would contribute to the list if it were shorter. I doubt if that is true; the reason experts do not contribute is that they are doing other things, eg contributing to bugzillas. In my experience, there are enough knowledgeable people on the list to give comprehensive answers to most queries. I'm not sure it's necessarily that the list is too high-volume in general, but that it's *perceived* to be high-volume because of a lot of off-topic chatter. I don't think that's a correct perception, but if we can help the perception by making sure the topic is clearer, that's a way of attracting more helpers on fedora-list. You're absolutely right that it might not help attract more experts, but it certainly couldn't hurt to clearly let users know what to expect on this list, could it? I don't take your statement to mean you don't want other helpers on this list, so if more people feel this is a good place to grow mutual support for using Fedora, I think you'd agree that's a worthy goal. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
more RAID whoe's
Hi folks. Last week I added another drive to my backup server. I then reshaped the RAID arrays and then resize2fs'd the main partition. All looked fine until I rebooted, at which point it failed after loading the kernel. Last time I got round this by upgrading from FC7 to FC8, during which time it re-installed the boot loader and installed the latest HDD image and all such *stuff*. I tried this again, upgrading from FC8 to FC9, but this time it isn't working. However, it didn't work but in a way I didn't expect. My boot partition partition is mirrored on the 1st and 2nd HDD's as it always has been. The boot loader then booted from the copy on /dev/sda1, and then remounted later as normal using /dev/md0. However, now I get the following displayed on screen. It looks like the boot loader doesn't like the partition type - but this hasn't changed. The splash screen and menu all appear on-screen so GRUB at least can see the /boot/ partition to do this. (The following were collected having booted from the rescue CD). I have noticed that the mirror isn't symetrical either as there seems to be an extra partition ( Anyone got any ideas Booting 'Fedora (2.6.25-14.FC9)' root(hd0,0) Filesystem type ext2fs, partition type 0xfd kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.fc9 ro root=/dev/md2 rhgb quiet Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... sh-3.2# mdadm -D /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Thu Dec 6 10:53:13 2007 Raid Level : raid1 Array Size : 1020032 (996.29 MiB 1044.51 MB) Used Dev Size : 1020032 (996.29 MiB 1044.51 MB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 3 Preferred Minor : 0 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Tue Aug 26 12:43:54 2008 State : clean Active Devices : 3 Working Devices : 3 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 UUID : 1f31c4b8:d602299e:6378c18c:1cc4f42f Events : 0.18 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 810 active sync /dev/sda1 1 821 active sync /dev/sda2 2 8 172 active sync /dev/sdb1 sh-3.2# mdadm -D /dev/md2 /dev/md2: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Thu Dec 6 10:37:22 2007 Raid Level : raid5 Array Size : 1937180672 (1847.44 GiB 1983.67 GB) Used Dev Size : 484295168 (461.86 GiB 495.92 GB) Raid Devices : 5 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 2 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Tue Aug 26 12:44:15 2008 State : clean Active Devices : 5 Working Devices : 5 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 256K UUID : dee71d7b:567f2962:2d68770a:c36412ac Events : 0.777308 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 850 active sync /dev/sda5 1 8 191 active sync /dev/sdb3 2 8 662 active sync /dev/sde2 3 8 503 active sync /dev/sdd2 4 8 344 active sync /dev/sdc2 -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Chris Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list, fedora-list@redhat.com, is one of the first lists that most Fedora users join, and therefore quite important to the community. However, it's a high-volume list (and is sometimes perceived to have a high noise level), so many veterans of the Fedora community aren't subscribed. As the result of discussion at the last public (IRC) board meeting, it's been proposed that narrow the scope of this list a bit. The current description of this list simply reads: fedora-users: For users of Fedora Do you really mean 'fedora-list' and not 'fedora-users' or are you proposing a new list 'fedora-users'? Just want to be sure. The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. Same comment. Feedback on this proposed change is welcome. In addition, this list has been without an owner. Paul Frields and I have assumed ownership of the list, and we'd welcome one or two experienced members of the community to join us. -- Chris Tyler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: time stupidity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Saltzman wrote: snip (Basically, UTC is London time with no DST adjustment, give or take a few ticks...). for me, here in cst, i have never had a problem of thinking - 6 hours for local time and - 5 for dst. once you do it for a while, it is second nature. when i had to use msbsos, i always used gmt and disabled dst. even had a few people tell me my clock was off. for some reason they had trouble understanding why i did not use dst and were more confused when i would reply with, 'not every body does'. The only disadvantage is that when you are in Windows, the clock shows UTC. If you wear a watch, that's not a big deal. you wear a watch? you'll find yourself several hours early to your appointments. being early can in some case, give a good impression. ;o) Clemson University Math Sciences math sciences and you have problems with something like time? :o) - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIs/bd+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAvdyAJ9+OzSMESeTyh//v46LfJGaJsWs7gCfeERH Nd6UMIwrbKQJDzzWLmbA2Y0= =Dt+U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Since F9, Images on Firefox Fuzzy
This is a new default in Firefox 3, which allows all the content on the page to stay proportional. You can change the behavior by pointing the browser to about:config and changing the value for browser.zoom.full to false. On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 08:17 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Dear friends, dear Carl, Yes, Firefox makes images blurry when I zoom the text - but apparently only under Fedora 9, not earlier Fedoras. At least, I never noticed before, but now big time. Take care Oliver On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Carl D. Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:48:08 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Dear friends, Since I upgraded to Fedore 9, all images appear fuzzy on Firefox. I have a Dell Latitude D820 laptop with a nVidia card and work with a resolution of 1680x1050. If I save the images and display them outside Firefox, they all look sharp. This is true for gif, jpg and svg. Try typing CTRL-0 in the Firefox window. If you inadvertantly zoomed the text in FF3 it may have zoomed the images too. This sometimes makes them look blurry. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Since F9, Images on Firefox Fuzzy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: snip Yes, Firefox makes images blurry when I zoom the text - but apparently only under Fedora 9, not earlier Fedoras. At least, I never noticed before, but now big time. are you using crt or lcd in video configs of xorg.conf? ria, i have noticed a few comments of difference when using crt instead of lcd. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIs/j/+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAo31AKCbni0YEcJY0Xsdl9EiL4nVRcH3/ACbBMcY XKhAABxV29K0xxYHvMxl850= =bKq0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
On Mon August 25 2008 10:19:39 am Per Anton Rønning wrote: please run the following from a command prompt, and post results: 'rpm -qa kernel*' And the results are: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i386 kerneloops-0.11-1.fc9.i386 kernel-PAE-2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 I'm sorry, I was thinking of something else at the same time. The command should have been: rpm -qa | grep kernel we're basically looking to see if your architectures are coherent, all i686 except for the kernel-headers and kerneloops which can be i386; we need to see if you have the correct kernel-devel installed in particular is there a reason you've got the PAE kernel installed? are you running more than 4GB of memory in this machine? what does the command 'uname -a' give? -- Claude Jones Leesburg, VA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
simscan problem compile
I have a problem to compiling simscan version 1.3.1 on Fedora 8 the problem is as follows: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Wall -c `test -f 'simscanmk.c' || echo './'`simscanmk.c In function 'open', inlined from 'make_cdb' at simscanmk.c:379: /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to '__open_missing_mode' declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments make[2]: *** [simscanmk.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/simscan-1.3.1' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/simscan-1.3.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 erro: Código de saída inválido do /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43842 (%build) tanks list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
Claude Jones wrote: On Mon August 25 2008 10:19:39 am Per Anton Rønning wrote: please run the following from a command prompt, and post results: 'rpm -qa kernel*' And the results are: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i386 kerneloops-0.11-1.fc9.i386 kernel-PAE-2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 I'm sorry, I was thinking of something else at the same time. The command should have been: rpm -qa | grep kernel we're basically looking to see if your architectures are coherent, all i686 except for the kernel-headers and kerneloops which can be i386; we need to see if you have the correct kernel-devel installed in particular is there a reason you've got the PAE kernel installed? are you running more than 4GB of memory in this machine? what does the command 'uname -a' give? rpm -qa | grep kernel returns this: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i386 kerneloops-0.11-1.fc9.i386 kernel-PAE-2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 And this seems to be the same as the last result. My machine has 4 GiB ram installed, of which 3.7 GiB is effective. uname -a gives: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Aug 4 13:57:11 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I sent a posting about some progress in the matter (my last one) - but I still seem to miss something (ref posting) Brgds. PAR -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: CNN Video - Flash
Il giorno lun, 25/08/2008 alle 21.38 -0700, Craig White ha scritto: # rpm -e totem-mozplugin # mozilla-plugin-config -i # rpm -e totem-mozplugin # mozilla-plugin-config -i *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0 (?) # rpm -qf /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so rhythmbox-0.11.6-2.fc9.i386 What's is this error? -- Dario Lesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 : generic driver for sound card
Hello all, I have a Creative Labs SB X-FI sound card. I cannot setup it or use the beta driver provided by SB. Is there a way to use a generic driver to use my sound card ? BR -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
On Tue August 26 2008 9:20:00 am Per Anton Rønning wrote: rpm -qa | grep kernel returns this: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i386 kerneloops-0.11-1.fc9.i386 kernel-PAE-2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 And this seems to be the same as the last result. My machine has 4 GiB ram installed, of which 3.7 GiB is effective. uname -a gives: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Aug 4 13:57:11 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I sent a posting about some progress in the matter (my last one) - but I still seem to miss something (ref posting) well, one thing that's wrong is that you're running the PAE kernel with less than 4 GB of memory...I don't think that has anything to do with your nvidia problem, but, if it were me, I'd remove the PAE kernel - it has no business being even installed on your machine after you've done that, you might want to install the kernel-devel for your running kernel (after a reboot) - if you're using the Livna nvidia driver and modules, I don't think this is strictly necessary, but, it won't hurt - somebody correct me here I run the nvidia driver from freshrpms which has a very nice feature - install and forget - with the Livna driver, you have to update the Livna nvidia module for your kernel every time there's a kernel update (unless that's changed) - with the freshrpms method, you install the nvidia driver once, and that also pulls in a script that runs every subsequent boot-time; it checks your nvidia driver module against the kernel that's booting, and if it's not current, it builds a new module on the fly without any intervention on your part, but, I'm digressing again, I'm not certain you need the kernel-devel installed for your running kernel using the Livna driver (you definitely need it if you go the freshrpms route), but, installing it takes up little space, and doesn't hurt, so, you may want to try it, unless someone else chimes in and definitely tells you you don't need it as regards the rest of your installed kernel related packages, you are fine - there was an issue at one point of i586 and i686 packages getting installed for the running kernel, causing various problems -- Claude Jones Leesburg, VA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 23:52 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list, fedora-list@redhat.com, is one of the first lists that most Fedora users join, and therefore quite important to the community. However, it's a high-volume list (and is sometimes perceived to have a high noise level), so many veterans of the Fedora community aren't subscribed. As the result of discussion at the last public (IRC) board meeting, it's been proposed that narrow the scope of this list a bit. The current description of this list simply reads: fedora-users: For users of Fedora The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. Feedback on this proposed change is welcome. In addition, this list has been without an owner. Paul Frields and I have assumed ownership of the list, and we'd welcome one or two experienced members of the community to join us. Some clarification based on the discussion that's taken place (while I slept :-) ... - Yes, I meant fedora-list and not fedora-users (sorry!) - The intention is not to moderate or censor the list, but to make it more useful by clarifying the list description and encouraging participation in the list by more of the long-term community members. - Likewise, the intention is not to reduce the list traffic by moderation, but hopefully a clearer purpose and better participation will increase its value to the community. (Obviously, moderation is an option if things really get out of hand, but I don't think anyone really wants to go there, and moderating a high-volume list in a timely fashion is a huge task). - That the list needs some love is clearly shown by the 149 messages in the admin queue, dating back to early 2007 (mostly messages over the 60K length limit and messages with subjects like help and unsubscribe). There's been some great feedback and suggestions on the list description. How about this?-- fedora-list: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using the Fedora distribution. -- Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
a doubt of grub ..about stage1 stage1.5 stage2
Hello, all. I do this test: = 1: A new PC never run grub-install before . rm /boot/grub/*stage* reboot Is OK. Grub can run and can load kernel. 2 grub-install /dev/sda rm /boot/grub/*stage* reboot you can see : grub can not load stage2. I know that : grub load kernel by this way : stage1 / \ stage2 stage1.5 \ stage2 But I don't know : how grub chose one ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?
2008/8/24 Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Disclosure doesn't sabotage forensic evidence. I can tell you that there is blood on this shoe without having any effect at all on the blood that's on the shoe. Actually there is a long history of police forces withholding vital details of a crime in order to, say, detect whether a person is: - a fraud, because they don't know some detail that the perpetrator of the crime alone would likely know - guilty, because they inadvertently reveal a detail that the perpetrator of the crime alone would likely know -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
NFS info
Hi I'm getting a constant problem where when I boot up a server that is moutning the /opt/logs dir from another server, the booting server hangs when the nfs server doesn't repond. Could you please give me an idea what options or setups I could use to get teh booting server to boot up and not hang on the nfs mount section? Thanks Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
Claude Jones wrote: On Tue August 26 2008 9:20:00 am Per Anton Rønning wrote: rpm -qa | grep kernel returns this: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i386 kerneloops-0.11-1.fc9.i386 kernel-PAE-2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 And this seems to be the same as the last result. My machine has 4 GiB ram installed, of which 3.7 GiB is effective. uname -a gives: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Aug 4 13:57:11 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I sent a posting about some progress in the matter (my last one) - but I still seem to miss something (ref posting) well, one thing that's wrong is that you're running the PAE kernel with less than 4 GB of memory...I don't think that has anything to do with your nvidia problem, but, if it were me, I'd remove the PAE kernel - it has no business being even installed on your machine Don't count on that, the 4GB thing is a very very rough and often wrong *SIMPLE* rule. Just because a machine has under 4GB of ram does not mean that the PAE kernel won't give you more memory.The bios *CAN* (some do, some don't) remap something that is covered by a video card, or otherwise reserved for something to above 4GB requiring a PAE kernel to use it. And this can start happening at around 3GB of ram or more, the only way to know if PAE is correct for a given setup is to either know exactly what the bios is doing or to test it. It all depends on exactly what the bios is doing, he would need to boot a PAE and a non-PAE kernel and check how much memory is being seen by each, if they are the same or really close (within 100MB) I would avoid the PAE kernel. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 00:51:30 Chris Tyler wrote: This list, fedora-list@redhat.com, is one of the first lists that most Fedora users join, and therefore quite important to the community. However, it's a high-volume list (and is sometimes perceived to have a high noise level), so many veterans of the Fedora community aren't subscribed. As the result of discussion at the last public (IRC) board meeting, it's been proposed that narrow the scope of this list a bit. The current description of this list simply reads: fedora-users: For users of Fedora The proposed replacement is: fedora-users: Help and support for using the Fedora distribution. Feedback on this proposed change is welcome. In addition, this list has been without an owner. Paul Frields and I have assumed ownership of the list, and we'd welcome one or two experienced members of the community to join us. -- Chris Tyler the using the Fedora distribution could be switched with using Fedora. Sounds more at home :) -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timothy Murphy wrote: snip eg turning a water-tap on and off, at a remote site. indoor or outdoor? ie, lawn water sprinkler. remote? not by your armchair? at home or to water your horse on farm? From my position of complete ignorance, X10 seems based on a bizarre system of sending information along power cables. which is 'wireless', no wires running from controller to devices, other than electrical wiring that carrier frequency control signals travel thru. I would have thought wireless would have replace this years ago. as in radio frequency wireless, wireless network and such, there are many systems available. x10 can be an inexpensive way of controlling a home system, if you have good lightening suppression on your mains. problem is that x10 is designed to work primarily over mains system. low voltage controllers are available. most electric water control systems as used in lawn sprinklers are low voltage for safety reasons. using an rf system can get expensive. remote receiver devices do have relay output because they do not have battery power to control water valves or other such 'heavy loads'. there are a multitude of ways control can be done and a multitude of systems available. either with commercial or 'roll your own'. any controller system does require a lot of forethought and consideration as to how you go about implementing vs what you want to spend. using a dedicated computer system, you can have a mixture of wired and wireless. wired can be as simple as using a printer port to controller cards with 8 to 32 uni and bidirectional connections. wireless can be 802 wireless network or dedicated frequency band. digital to analog, and analog to digital is also available. along with site already presented, google will find you more than what you will ever get thru all of. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItByc+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAoWTAJ47JQDIC4b3roRISMtjTcV14WR03ACfV9Mr tToF2E4w9ZuPCavIeyNxRSQ= =WtkY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
airmon-ng with iwl4965
Hi guys, hope i am not making off-topic, but it is worth to ask for me. I am trying to make my iwl4965 wifi card work with aircrack-ng package from Fedora. I know guys, that i need to patch driver + mac80211 to make monitor mode work. I have used patches provided on aircrack-ng pages to patch kernel-source and rebuilded whole kernel. However this is what i got , InterfaceChipsetDriver *wlan0iwl4965 - [phy0]/usr/sbin/airmon-ng: line 338: /sys/class/ieee80211/phy0/add_iface: No such file or directory mon0: unknown interface: No such device* (monitor mode enabled on mon0) What is missing there ? THANKS IN ADVANCE! DAVID -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
On Tue August 26 2008 10:52:21 am Roger Heflin wrote: Don't count on that, the 4GB thing is a very very rough and often wrong *SIMPLE* rule. Just because a machine has under 4GB of ram does not mean that the PAE kernel won't give you more memory. The bios *CAN* (some do, some don't) remap something that is covered by a video card, or otherwise reserved for something to above 4GB requiring a PAE kernel to use it. And this can start happening at around 3GB of ram or more, the only way to know if PAE is correct for a given setup is to either know exactly what the bios is doing or to test it. It all depends on exactly what the bios is doing, he would need to boot a PAE and a non-PAE kernel and check how much memory is being seen by each, if they are the same or really close (within 100MB) I would avoid the PAE kernel. Interesting... I'll make this a keeper and test soon. I build most of my machines with 4GB of ram now, but that's in Windows land at work - they tend to filter my way as older ones are superceded or retired - my current Linux machines all top out at 3GB -- Claude Jones Levit James, Inc. Leesburg, VA 703-771-1549 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Laptop Recommendations
I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well with Fedora 9. My current thinking is to go with something from Dell, because they support Ubuntu on some of their laptops - and if something works with Ubuntu then there's a good chance that it can be made to work with Fedora. I'm very tempted by their new Studio range, but they don't (yet) sell them with Ubuntu on so I suspect there might be dragons there. But I thought I'd ask if anyone here had any other suggestions. I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12 screen, a 2 Ghz or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and bluetooth. Working well with Fedora is my primary concern. I'm hoping to spend about £800, but could go to £1,000 for the right machine. Any suggestions? Or suggestions of better places to go for suggestions? Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 15:09 +, g wrote: wireless can be 802 wireless network or dedicated frequency band. I can see it now, the neighbour hood script kiddy spending hours hacking into the neighbours wireless LAN, only to be able to turn the garden sprinklers on and off... ;-) Of course, if you had multiple sprinklers, all individually controlled, there could be fun in sequencing them in a bizarre pattern. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: snip I can see it now, the neighbour hood script kiddy spending hours hacking into the neighbours wireless LAN, only to be able to turn the garden sprinklers on and off... ;-) lol. what would be even better, if you had a remote trunk opener and he hacked that too. Of course, if you had multiple sprinklers, all individually controlled, there could be fun in sequencing them in a bizarre pattern. 1812 overture comes to mind. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItCOj+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAndSAKCrMVsdEdm6Zjjzrw2ZZJ3X1dZragCgp5dW we2TSGQNobQTGAkm4aXRzh4= =VQ63 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm interested in much the same topic as the OP, although in my case I would like to be able to run non-computer services, eg turning a water-tap on and off, at a remote site. You may want to visit http://www.smarthome.com for a lot of different ideas. Depending on your sprinkler system, you may want something like http://www.smarthome.com/31270.html From my position of complete ignorance, X10 seems based on a bizarre system of sending information along power cables. I would have thought wireless would have replace this years ago. But as I say, I am a complete ignoramus on the subject. One big problem with wireless is that you still need power for the transmitter and receiver. If you are going to plug into an outlet anyway, it is cheaper to send the signals over the power wiring. They do make wireless links to an X10 receiver that will bridge a wireless signal to your wiring. There are some interesting things you can do with a wireless motion detector and X10 controlled lighting. There are some interesting controllers, as well as computer software. There are controllers that let you program time events and macros that will control things without needing a computer attached after they are programmed. http://www.smarthome.com/1140.html I have done some interesting setups - things like controlling the power to my electric blanket so the bed is warm when I go to bed, and turns off before I have to get up for work. (It has a different program for weekends.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
Timothy Murphy wrote:
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From my position of complete ignorance,
X10 seems based on a bizarre system of sending information
along power cables.
I would have thought wireless would have replace this years ago.
But as I say, I am a complete ignoramus on the subject.
Wireless and powerline are both subject to serious external
interference. Neither is suitable for critical control applications.
Mike
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Re: a doubt of grub ..about stage1 stage1.5 stage2
Alin Fang wrote: Hello, all. I do this test: = 1: A new PC never run grub-install before . rm /boot/grub/*stage* reboot Is OK. Grub can run and can load kernel. 2 grub-install /dev/sda rm /boot/grub/*stage* reboot you can see : grub can not load stage2. I know that : grub load kernel by this way : stage1 / \ stage2 stage1.5 \ stage2 But I don't know : how grub chose one ? I thought that the installer would use stage 1.5 as long as it was being installed to a file system there was a stage 1.5 for, unless you specified otherwise. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay so this is way off topic but I need some help. I tried doing a
Google search but I don't know enough to get my query right.
I have several external components that I would like to come on when my
computer comes on. I would also like them to go off when my computer goes
off. Some sort of electronic switch that I could plug in to one of my
PC's spare 4 pin power plugs work work fine.
To make things a little more complicated (and Linux related) I would also
like this. I have a water cooling system with a variable voltage water
pump. It would be nice if I could simply poll lmsensors and have a
program bump up the voltage until the CPU is below a certain temperature.
Ok, what voltage are we talking about controlling? Line power?
Low DC voltage for control? How much current? Is there a particular
device which you want to use, and which one could look up on
the web to get an idea of what your requirements are?
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Re: Laptop Recommendations
- Mensaje original De: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: fedora-list@redhat.com Enviado: martes, 26 de agosto, 2008 10:26:58 Asunto: Laptop Recommendations I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well with Fedora 9. My current thinking is to go with something from Dell, because they support Ubuntu on some of their laptops - and if something works with Ubuntu then there's a good chance that it can be made to work with Fedora. I'm very tempted by their new Studio range, but they don't (yet) sell them with Ubuntu on so I suspect there might be dragons there. But I thought I'd ask if anyone here had any other suggestions. I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12 screen, a 2 Ghz or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and bluetooth. Working well with Fedora is my primary concern. I'm hoping to spend about £800, but could go to £1,000 for the right machine. Any suggestions? Or suggestions of better places to go for suggestions? Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Dave, I very recently purchased a HP Pavilion dv6875se from Best Buy in Dallas Texas, USA. As I was shopping I was keeping Fedora compatibility in mind. The two things I was most concerned about were video and wireless. I had bad experiences in the past with an unsupported ATI video card as well as a truly evil broadcom wireless card. As I was shopping, I made a list of components that could pose a problem. For example, I didn't expect any kind of trouble from DVD/CD drives, or SATA HDD's but Video, Wireless, and Sound were all on the list. As you consider a laptop, go over the suspect components one at a time and find out if there is support. In general anything by Intel will have good support. The HP dv6875se has a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG 802.11a/b/g card and a Nivida GeForce 8400M GS video card. I don't use bluetooth and in fact I don't think it is even supported on this machine. Remember, you can usually add/replace RAM and HDD after the purchase but not Video, Sound, Wireless, etc. So focus on that. I hope this helps. Dennis K __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: airmon-ng with iwl4965
You/they will need to change airmon-ng to use the nl80211 (netlink-based) interface to cfg80211 instead. Thanks, you were right! They already did it in 1.0RC1. Have a nice day! D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: FEDORA8: NOT GETTING TO DESKTOP AFTER MAKING LOGIN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I am using fedora 8 and facing a serious trouble of Not getting on to my desktop or getting to it after 10 – 15 minutes. I have reinstalled fedora 8 and it has started showing me the same problem again but after a month of daily usage. The system is generally used for around 10 hours per day and fedora is being used as a SERVER OS to run MYSQL(auto start) JBOSS(started manually in terminal - no auto start). It has been confirmed from an engineer that there is no hardware problem. During booting of Fedora almost all the processes starts very quickly and I am being directed to the login window within minutes. But PROBLEM STARTS AFTER THIS WHEN I MAKE LOGIN EITHER THROUGH ROOT OR AS A NORMAL USER THEN IT DOES NOT SHOW DESKTOP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. the shocking thing is that this problem is not consistent i.e. it happens sometimes and not on a regular basis. But if it happens then my jboss does not work. Is this a GNOME desktop? It could easily be network-related. Check your DNS settings and make sure that they work properly. Incidentally there really is NO NEED TO SHOUT if you can avoid it. regards, Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHC* It's today! said Piglet. My favourite day, said Pooh. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
Claude Jones wrote: On Tue August 26 2008 10:52:21 am Roger Heflin wrote: Don't count on that, the 4GB thing is a very very rough and often wrong *SIMPLE* rule. Just because a machine has under 4GB of ram does not mean that the PAE kernel won't give you more memory.The bios *CAN* (some do, some don't) remap something that is covered by a video card, or otherwise reserved for something to above 4GB requiring a PAE kernel to use it. And this can start happening at around 3GB of ram or more, the only way to know if PAE is correct for a given setup is to either know exactly what the bios is doing or to test it. It all depends on exactly what the bios is doing, he would need to boot a PAE and a non-PAE kernel and check how much memory is being seen by each, if they are the same or really close (within 100MB) I would avoid the PAE kernel. Interesting... I'll make this a keeper and test soon. I build most of my machines with 4GB of ram now, but that's in Windows land at work - they tend to filter my way as older ones are superceded or retired - my current Linux machines all top out at 3GB If the bios maker *ONLY* worries about having max ram with 32-bit Windows, then it is likely that the did not remap above 4GB, but sometimes there is a bios option to change this behavior to work better for Linux and/or 64-bit windows. Given that windows is changing then it becomes more likely for them to be remapping above 4GB.If they don't remap above 4GB they will maximize the memory usable for 32-bit windows (depending on the exact hw, they may have to remap larger amounts than are actually covered and that would lower the ram usable under 32-bit windows, so no remap is better for 32-bit windows in this case), but a proper remap would allow anything using PAE (I thought the server versions of Windows did use PAE) or 64bit to have more ram that without the remap. And of course it all depends on exactly what the bios engineer for the MB company decided to do, and often it depends on what they classify the motherboard as, server boards and boards that support more than 4GB are more likely to have the options to do remapping as they already expect someone to be using either PAE or 64bit. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
Per Anton Rønning wrote: Claude Jones wrote: On Tue August 26 2008 10:52:21 am Roger Heflin wrote: Don't count on that, the 4GB thing is a very very rough and often wrong *SIMPLE* rule. Just because a machine has under 4GB of ram does not mean that the PAE kernel won't give you more memory.The bios *CAN* (some do, some don't) remap something that is covered by a video card, or otherwise reserved for something to above 4GB requiring a PAE kernel to use it. And this can start happening at around 3GB of ram or more, the only way to know if PAE is correct for a given setup is to either know exactly what the bios is doing or to test it. It all depends on exactly what the bios is doing, he would need to boot a PAE and a non-PAE kernel and check how much memory is being seen by each, if they are the same or really close (within 100MB) I would avoid the PAE kernel. Interesting... I'll make this a keeper and test soon. I build most of my machines with 4GB of ram now, but that's in Windows land at work - they tend to filter my way as older ones are superceded or retired - my current Linux machines all top out at 3GB I'm am afraid that it is beyond my qualifications to start kernel management. First I must know the difference between these kernels, hwich I dont. It seems that I need to take a course in advanced Linux to embark upon a venture like that,. So for now I'd better be happy with the two optional screen resolutions that I have, and the 800x600 is not bad at all, I can live vith that without someone holding a gun to my head. Now, I happened to find ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8174/README/64bit_html/index.html NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver Set README and Installation Guide *googlig for the nvidia-xconfig. * *It is a lot of stuff here that I have to spend some time on, and hopefully I will be better equipped to handle this. Brgds PAR * * * Per, Boot both the PAE kernel and the non-PAE kernel (through the grub screen), boot each and do a cat /proc/meminfo and check MemTotal, if they are about the same use the non-PAE kernel as the PAE kernel won't help you. From your list these 2: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nvidia driver
Roger Heflin wrote: Per Anton Rønning wrote: Claude Jones wrote: On Tue August 26 2008 10:52:21 am Roger Heflin wrote: Don't count on that, the 4GB thing is a very very rough and often wrong *SIMPLE* rule. Just because a machine has under 4GB of ram does not mean that the PAE kernel won't give you more memory.The bios *CAN* (some do, some don't) remap something that is covered by a video card, or otherwise reserved for something to above 4GB requiring a PAE kernel to use it. And this can start happening at around 3GB of ram or more, the only way to know if PAE is correct for a given setup is to either know exactly what the bios is doing or to test it. It all depends on exactly what the bios is doing, he would need to boot a PAE and a non-PAE kernel and check how much memory is being seen by each, if they are the same or really close (within 100MB) I would avoid the PAE kernel. Interesting... I'll make this a keeper and test soon. I build most of my machines with 4GB of ram now, but that's in Windows land at work - they tend to filter my way as older ones are superceded or retired - my current Linux machines all top out at 3GB I'm am afraid that it is beyond my qualifications to start kernel management. First I must know the difference between these kernels, hwich I dont. It seems that I need to take a course in advanced Linux to embark upon a venture like that,. So for now I'd better be happy with the two optional screen resolutions that I have, and the 800x600 is not bad at all, I can live vith that without someone holding a gun to my head. Now, I happened to find ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8174/README/64bit_html/index.html NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver Set README and Installation Guide *googlig for the nvidia-xconfig. * *It is a lot of stuff here that I have to spend some time on, and hopefully I will be better equipped to handle this. Brgds PAR * * * Per, Boot both the PAE kernel and the non-PAE kernel (through the grub screen), boot each and do a cat /proc/meminfo and check MemTotal, if they are about the same use the non-PAE kernel as the PAE kernel won't help you. From your list these 2: kernel-PAE-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Roger And I must also admit that I have not done anything in particular to influence which kernels I have installed. I have only installed F9 from a DVD attached in the August issue of Linux Format, and I am over all very pleased with the distro. It works fine, and the trouble I have had is peanuts compared to the upside. There were no questions as to the choice of kernels during the installation as far as I can remember, and had it been, I would not have known what to answer, kernel stuff is the next level for me. I would very much like to learn about this, i really like Linux and there is a lot that I would like to master. But I have a lot of other tasks so I cannot allocate enough time, it seems. Brgds PAR -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
Paul W. Frields wrote: You're absolutely right that it might not help attract more experts, but it certainly couldn't hurt to clearly let users know what to expect on this list, could it? I don't take your statement to mean you don't want other helpers on this list, so if more people feel this is a good place to grow mutual support for using Fedora, I think you'd agree that's a worthy goal. Anything that would bring in more experts would be excellent. I must say, I have asked many queries on the list on many aspects of Fedora, and had satisfying answers to almost all of them - most of the useful answers, I should say, coming from a very small phalanx of experts. Of the many lists and newsgroups I subscribe to, I would put the fedora list and comp.text.tex equal first, with sci.math unchallenged holder of the bottom place. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: NetworkManager and special routing
Alan Evans wrote: Is there any way to get NetworkManager to configure a special route to a particular host while still getting the rest from DHCP as it always does? On my old desktop (without NetworkManager), I just used system-config-network and added the rule on the Route tab for the connection. Now, Fedora9, I do that and NetworkManager stops managing the connection. Ugh. If NetworkManager is the way of the future, then I really want to adopt it. But I really can't have packets to my own server travelling through our default gateway, out over the wide internet through servers hundreds of miles from here, just to be routed back into the server room next door to my office. Can this be done? Or is it time to give up (again) on NetworkManager and fall back to the static configurations which, while bothersome, at least work? If you use the system-config-network tool to manage the config, you may need to edit the config by hand afterwards. You need to check: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 to make sure that they include: NM_CONTROLLED=yes However, the system-config-network tool also edits /etc/sysconfig/static-routes which is obeyed by NetworkManager (I believe). Let us know if you get it working. We have some systems here that use cell cards to dial out, but still need access to internal networks via dhcp. We use /etc/sysconfig/static-routes to manage that. These systems do NOT use NetworkManager, but the principle should be the same. Good Luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: NFS info
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:44:05 +0100 Dan Track [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm getting a constant problem where when I boot up a server that is moutning the /opt/logs dir from another server, the booting server hangs when the nfs server doesn't repond. Could you please give me an idea what options or setups I could use to get teh booting server to boot up and not hang on the nfs mount section? You'll get better answers if you give more details about exactly what you're trying to do and how you're doing it. Why, for example, does the nfs server not respond? Perhaps that's the first problem that you need to resolve. If you need to move the nfs mount to the last stage of the boot process for some reason you could put a mount command into /etc/rc.local. To prevent hanging, use an Now to prevent something from hanging when it wants to use /opt/logs and it's not available, that's a different problem and the best answer there is: make it available. Solve the issue with the nfs server that's causing it to be unavailable, or set up some kind of a fail-over for it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: samba installed from scratch on fc9 doesn't work for me
Craig White, il 25/08/2008 16:44, scrisse: also, shouldn't the domain field reflect the workgroup name, i.e. GRECOELEVATORI? and if so, how can I edit it? yes, the 'workgroup' name in smb.conf should be the DOMAIN for all users so there's a problem there to be sure. At this point, I would delete the user and add the user back in. smbpasswd -x barbara smbpasswd -a barbara I did it, but nothing had changed. however maybe domain and workgroup are not the same thing, because also on my home pc (which runs a samba server) domain is set to the name of the host. Just out of curiosity... what do you get from net getlocalsid net getdomainsid (hopefully S-1-5-21-4006416855-825432111-2697360864) it is so, but net getdomainsid says could not get domain SID. let's try this first... service nmb stop service smb stop rm /var/lib/samba/wins* service nmb start service smb start then if needed, delete the smbuser barbara and re-add barbara and check still nothing :( I assumed with /var/lib/samba/wins* you did mean actually /var/lib/samba/winbindd_privileged, because /var/lib/samba/wins* doesn't match nothing. I think that if you want to allow 'guest' you have to 'map' the 'Bad User' guest to an account and you will also have to add in Ufficio share... guest ok = yes not sure I understand you correctly. the public share has already public=yes, which should be the same as guest ok=yes. I added guest account=ftp in smb.conf and did smbpasswd -a ftp without supplying a password, but still nothing. I even tried with secutity share, and this way I'm able to access the share, but only with barbara's password. if I try to access without a password it says server not using user level security and no password supplied. neither with security share I'm able to access the share from the win98 machine; it says (translated from italian, the english text could be different) unable to access \\BARBARA\Ufficio. unable to find share name. odd, given that I access to it locally with smbclient //BARBARA/Ufficio. I can't even see win98's share from fedora, nor I can mount it with mount -t cifs //greco/Ufficio2 /mnt/win98; it says mount error 112 = Host is down, but the share name is indeed //greco/Ufficio2, and smbclient -L greco confirms it. I'm lost :( -- Massimo Maiurana massimoatragusa.linux.it http://massimo.solira.org GPG keyID #7044D601 Articolo 33 - [...]Enti e privati hanno il diritto di istituire scuole ed istituti di educazione, senza oneri per lo Stato.[...] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
OT: pci express 1x card in a 16x slot
Anyone know if a PCI Express 1x card would work in a PCI Express 16x slot? Why would I want to put a PCI Express 1x card in a 16x slot?, someone is bound to ask. Because there is a capacitor on the motherboard just in front of the PCI-E 1x slot. The Hauppauge PVR 1250 card I want to put there has a jack at the very bottom of the card. The card will not fit all the way down in the slot. Actually I think all the contacts are made; I cannot see any of the gold from the card's contacts in the slot. However, the top of the card's faceplate will not reach the chassis to allow me to screw it in. With the power off, I found that the 1x card will fit in the 16x slot. I just don't know if it will work there. Anyone know? Thanks! Andrew Robinson -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
R. G. Newbury wrote: To recap, attempting to run a script, as root, with permissions 755 produced a 'Permissions denied' error. The problem was that the partition was mounted with 'users,defaults' options, and 'users' implies 'noexec' and overrides 'defaults' (which implies 'exec'), Changing the line in fstab to 'defaults' and quick 'umount' and 'mount' fixed the problem. Weird bit is that I was logged in as root..WHICH WAS MISLEADING. When 'nonexec' is set, ALL users are denied execution privileges. (This is most useful for security purposes in denying the use of programs on for example a USB stick from compromising the system. So, besides checking the permissions on a file, and the parent directories, you have to check how the partition was mounted. This will catch you when you are playing with something on a 'spare' partition. Or when you change the fstab without realizing the implications! Thanks to all for the pointers, which gave the solution. Geoff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: time stupidity
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 12:28 +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Saltzman wrote: snip (Basically, UTC is London time with no DST adjustment, give or take a few ticks...). for me, here in cst, i have never had a problem of thinking - 6 hours for local time and - 5 for dst. once you do it for a while, it is second nature. when i had to use msbsos, i always used gmt and disabled dst. even had a few people tell me my clock was off. for some reason they had trouble understanding why i did not use dst and were more confused when i would reply with, 'not every body does'. The only disadvantage is that when you are in Windows, the clock shows UTC. If you wear a watch, that's not a big deal. you wear a watch? Call me old-fashioned... you'll find yourself several hours early to your appointments. being early can in some case, give a good impression. ;o) Clemson University Math Sciences math sciences and you have problems with something like time? :o) Most mathematicians I know are terrible with numbers. There are three types of mathematicians in the world: Those that can count and those that can't.---Anonymous - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIs/bd+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAvdyAJ9+OzSMESeTyh//v46LfJGaJsWs7gCfeERH Nd6UMIwrbKQJDzzWLmbA2Y0= =Dt+U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?
Gene Heskett wrote: Nor have they AFAWK, made any attempt to relay the condensed gist of the bitches back to the PA people. If there is not a comm channel, it will never get fixed, it really is that simple. But it is not at all clear whether your problems have anything to do with pulseaudio itself or just the way it is configured in fedora. I suspect the latter, but don't know where to find any documentation about undoing that setup without breaking other things. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: OT: pci express 1x card in a 16x slot
In theory, yes. The catch is that boards with integrated graphics will sometimes treat their x16 slot specially. I have a board with integrated graphics that will only run the x16 slot at x1, even if you have an x4 or x8 card installed In addition to what Chris states, many boards with single 16 lane slots and IG that may have some narrow lane slots can only handle graphics cards in the x16 slot. Intel boards are typically like this. You shove something else in the 16 lane slot like a big nic, or raid card and she don't work :( jlc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Low spec options?
Are there any Fedora 9 install options for notebooks with low system spec? (i.e. 256MB RAM, 1GHz CPU) Similar to Xubuntu. -Devon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 25 August 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mark Haney wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: g wrote: Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. Have you tried Kino? It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and Ive successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via USB. It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it still works pretty well. Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this later this week. I would like the importing software to break the various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy. Kino, when importing from the camera over firewire, does exactly that when it detects a scene change. It's the when importing from firewire that bothers me, I would hope that happens with USB as well, since the camera doesn't do firewire. I'll let you know. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: (Remember: Using Linux also is a political statement) Maybe. Maybe not. Well, to newcomer, it's likely not an obvious political statement, to Linux veterans supporting Linux rsp. one of it's flavors (here: Fedora) is a fully conscious active political statement/decision. This might be news to newcomers who regard Fedora and Linux as a technical alternative to Vista, ... but whether you like it or not, Linux comes with political and philosophical strings attached, whether you agree to them or not. Ralf -- Registered Linux User #26 http://counter.li.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay so this is way off topic but I need some help. I tried doing a Google search but I don't know enough to get my query right. this is in 'commercial class', but it will give you an idea of what can be done and a few goals for your finished system. plus, they now have a neat 'mouse over' page. http://www.homecontrols.com/cgi-bin/main/co_disp/displ/pgrfnbr/461/sesent/00 - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItFsa+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAtnOAJ9L1jtPf9Fl0RMps63F5dKkIkm16gCgt1Fo QJl7qJJEVb6J6aRQoYIZ37Q= =hbFk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
Paul W. Frields wrote: Good point Tim, maybe we should put a caveat emptor in the bit that the list management software applies to the end of every message? Only not so scary. If you’re going to edit that, can we please *finally* have a link to a FAQ list? Possibly http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines , or that material re-ordered for fedora-list purposes? Thanks, James. -- E-mail: james@ | Please do not put sandwiches in the disk drive. aprilcottage.co.uk | -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Konqueror in SU mode
FC9, Kde-4.1 How do I run Konqueror as Super User. It is very different to run konquerorSU in KDE-4.1 than KDE 3.5. If I open SU in Console and then try to run /usr/bin/konqueror, it won't run. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
R. G. Newbury wrote: Weird bit is that I was logged in as root..WHICH WAS MISLEADING. When 'nonexec' is set, ALL users are denied execution privileges. (This is most useful for security purposes in denying the use of programs on for example a USB stick from compromising the system. Similarly, a filesystem mounted read-only will be read-only for all users¹, including root. You may find this more obvious, especially if you remember hardware write-protect tabs on floppies. James. ¹ But not the kernel – journalling filesystems may be rolled back or rolled forwards if they weren’t cleanly unmounted. -- E-mail: james@ | I don't think so, said René Descartes. Just then, he aprilcottage.co.uk | vanished. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT Electronics Help
posted mailed g wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: snip eg turning a water-tap on and off, at a remote site. indoor or outdoor? ie, lawn water sprinkler. remote? not by your armchair? at home or to water your horse on farm? I'd like turn on a lawn water sprinkler in Italy while watching the rain in Ireland. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
triple-headed xorg.conf in Fedora using nv and radeon drivers
Hi folks, Following up on my previous email on the subject, I've made some advances to the configuration which have improved performance and decreased hardware requirements. My new setup has 2 24 screens on the right, and a 22 screen in portrait mode on the left. A radeon x300 card drives the 24 displays as a single randr screen, while an nvidia gs7200 (NV46) card drives the CCW-rotated portrait monitor. This is running on the latest Xorg in Fedora 8 (Fedora 9 presently has trouble initializing the second video card). -- Brendan Conoboy / Red Hat, Inc. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This configuration is for 2 24 displays in landscape mode, # combined on a single radeon video card with the randr driver Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 leftof Screen0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver radeon Busid PCI:2:0:0 VendorName Videocard Vendor Option monitor-DVI-0 dvi0 Option monitor-VGA-0 vga0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier dvi0 Option PreferredMode 1920x1200 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier vga0 Option RightOf dvi0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1900x1200 Virtual 3840 1200 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Monitor dell Device Videocard1 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1680x1050 Virtual 1680 1050 EndSubSection EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard1 Driver nv Busid PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier dell Option Rotate CCW EndSection -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: NetworkManager and special routing
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, the system-config-network tool also edits /etc/sysconfig/static-routes which is obeyed by NetworkManager (I believe). I don't have /etc/sysconfig/static-routes. What's supposed to be in that file? Or how do I coax system-config-network (or whatever) to create it? When I set up the route, system-config-network created /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0. The file is still there, but NetworkManager apparently doesn't care about that one. Let us know if you get it working. We have some systems here that use cell cards to dial out, but still need access to internal networks via dhcp. We use /etc/sysconfig/static-routes to manage that. These systems do NOT use NetworkManager, but the principle should be the same. Good Luck! Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am no newbie to Linux, and I consider it simply a technical alternative to other OS choices. Then I have to work harder to make sure you understand that this project is more than than the technical bits. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Bill, Last year my daughter bought me a Sony Handicam DCR-SR42 for Christmas. It has a 30GB hard drive in it, and a USB connection. My laptop recognized it right away and mounted it as a USB hard drive device. I can access the the stored videos (MPGs) (in a simial method to accessing my SONY still camera's JPGs) and access them directly. I even learned how to burn the MPGs to a DVD with a script. Does your videocam not have any local storage on it? For me, the trick was in knowing where to look for the videos after Linux mounted the device /media/disk/mp_root/101pnv01/ holds all of the .mpg files and /media/disk/dcim/101msdcf/ holds all of my .jpg files -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
KDE4 - new device notifier
Is there a way to get the new device notifier plasmoid to not list certain devices? Mine is cluttered up by partitions on my internal disk that I have no interest in mounting, and certainly didn't plug them in recently. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
PAE and 4 GB of memory or less
Roger Heflin wrote: If they don't remap above 4GB they will maximize the memory usable for 32-bit windows (depending on the exact hw, they may have to remap larger amounts than are actually covered and that would lower the ram usable under 32-bit windows, so no remap is better for 32-bit windows in this case), but a proper remap would allow anything using PAE (I thought the server versions of Windows did use PAE) or 64bit to have more ram that without the remap. Actually, I understand that all 32 bit editions of Windows XP support PAE, but still support no more than 4 GB of memory¹. For a similar reason, you may want to use the PAE kernel on 32-bit Fedora even if you don’t have 4 GB of memory. That reason is that recent processors (since 2003 or 2004) can be told which bits of memory come from a proper program, and won’t even try running anything else¹. This makes certain security bugs impossible to exploit and others much more difficult. This only works in PAE or 64 bit modes. Fedora can do something similar with earlier processors or non-PAE kernels, but it’s not as fine-grained and doesn’t fully protect all programs. See http://fedoranews.org/updates/FEDORA-2004-137.shtml (NX feature) for more details. Hope this helps, James. ¹ It’s not the PAE that’s the problem – it’s the third-party drivers. They believe that a *lot* of drivers won’t work properly if they’re told to access memory above 4 GB. It’s possible to get around this with performance penalties, which Microsoft aren’t willing to pay. ² And they won’t run data from inside proper programs, either. -- E-mail: james@ | Legacy (adj): an uncomplimentary computer-industry aprilcottage.co.uk | epithet that means 'it works'. | -- Anthony DeBoer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: The Scope and Ownership of fedora-list
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am no newbie to Linux, and I consider it simply a technical
alternative to other OS choices.
Then I have to work harder to make sure you understand that this
project is more than than the technical bits.
The project may be, but my use of its results is not part of the
project.
Mike
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Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
James Wilkinson wrote:
R. G. Newbury wrote:
Weird bit is that I was logged in as root..WHICH WAS MISLEADING. When
'nonexec' is set, ALL users are denied execution privileges. (This is
most useful for security purposes in denying the use of programs on for
example a USB stick from compromising the system.
Similarly, a filesystem mounted read-only will be read-only for all
users¹, including root. You may find this more obvious, especially if
you remember hardware write-protect tabs on floppies.
James.
¹ But not the kernel – journalling filesystems may be rolled back or
rolled forwards if they weren’t cleanly unmounted.
AIUI...
Having root access only gives one effective ownership, not effective
permission. Being root gives one the same privileges the owner would
have.
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Re: Low spec options?
2008/8/26 lostson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 15:17 -0400, Devon Harding wrote: Are there any Fedora 9 install options for notebooks with low system spec? (i.e. 256MB RAM, 1GHz CPU) Similar to Xubuntu. -Devon -- Sure use the XFCE spin of Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/XfceLive -- LostSon http://lostsonsvault.org - Is there a download for this? I'm not seeing this anywhere. -Devon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
Mike McCarty wrote: Having root access only gives one effective ownership, not effective permission. Being root gives one the same privileges the owner would have. It gets more interesting when you have fuse mounted file systems. I have an encrypted file system as user mikkel, and root can not access it, unless I change to user mikkel, even if it is unlocked. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laptop Recommendations
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well with Fedora 9. My current thinking is to go with something from Dell, because they support Ubuntu on some of their laptops - and if something works with Ubuntu then there's a good chance that it can be made to work with Fedora. I'm very tempted by their new Studio range, but they don't (yet) sell them with Ubuntu on so I suspect there might be dragons there. But I thought I'd ask if anyone here had any other suggestions. I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12 screen, a 2 Ghz or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and bluetooth. Working well with Fedora is my primary concern. I'm hoping to spend about £800, but could go to £1,000 for the right machine. Any suggestions? Or suggestions of better places to go for suggestions? Cheers, Dave... I got issued an HP 8510w workstation at work (a bit more high end than your looking at) and everything works. Top level specs: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4GHz Centrino vPro chipset Intel Wireless works out of the box Bluetooth works Video is Nvidia Quadro 570M (frame buffer driver works ok, but at 1900x1200 scrolling can be painful, nvidia driver from freshrpms works fine) Sound works fine, all media buttons work (volume control, mute, etc) DVD burner works fine with k3b Booted F9 liveusb system fine (used to test the system before installing to disk) Overall a very nice laptop. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nvidia driver
On Tue August 26 2008 11:43:01 am Per Anton Rønning wrote: I'm am afraid that it is beyond my qualifications to start kernel management. First I must know the difference between these kernels, hwich I dont. It seems that I need to take a course in advanced Linux to embark upon a venture like that,. nothing of the sort! the PAE kernel is just a special case designed for systems with very large memory (PAE stands for physical address extension); early on during your boot sequence, you should see the words Grub loading stage 2 appear on your screen, and if you press nearly any key, it will take you to a screen where you can pick the kernel you boot into using the up/down arrows. Boot into both your kernels and run the command suggested by Roger; once you've figured out which kernel is yielding you more usable memory, you can remove the one you don't want by running the command from a root prompt: yum remove [name of kernel] that's it, all there is to it by the way, did you know that the nvidia driver installed documentation right on your hard drive? it's going to be a lot better than searching for stuff on the net, especially as you appear to be pointing to a 64 bit version with that link you posted - try this from your browser: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-x11-drv-173.14.12/html/index.html and by the way, what does rpm -qa | grep nvidia show? So for now I'd better be happy with the two optional screen resolutions that I have, and the 800x600 is not bad at all for me, that would be awful - I'm currently typing on an ASUS laptop with a 17 wide screen set to 1920 X 1200 -- running the latest nvidia driver - I have five machines running Fedora right now, and they all have nvidia cards with the nvidia proprietary drivers running on them, all of them at much higher resolution than yours - something is wrong, but, we can probably figure it out , I can live vith that without someone holding a gun to my head. Now, I happened to find ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8174/README/64bit_html/i ndex.html beware the above link unless you're running the 64 bit version of the driver... NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver Set README and Installation Guide -- Claude Jones Leesburg, VA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Having root access only gives one effective ownership, not effective
permission. Being root gives one the same privileges the owner would
have.
It gets more interesting when you have fuse mounted file systems. I
have an encrypted file system as user mikkel, and root can not
access it, unless I change to user mikkel, even if it is unlocked.
That makes perfect sense. Ownership and access are not the same
thing.
Mike
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Re: Laptop Recommendations
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 15:26, Dave Cross wrote: I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well with Fedora 9. [snip] I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12 screen, a 2 Ghz or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and bluetooth. Working well with Fedora is my primary concern. Since March I am a happy owner of Fujitsu-Siemens Esprimo U9200. It is 12, the processor is Core 2 Duo at 1.6GHz, initially it had 1GB of ram but I had it upgraded to 2 GB, 120 GB hd was enough for me. Fedora, both 8 and 9, seem to Just Work on this machine. It has it all working out of the box --- wireless, sound, 3d accelerated video (intel), webcam, bluetooth (reported by the system to work, but I have never actually tested it, have no device to try it out), etc. Things I have not tried (yet) are hibernation abilities and such. I am sure memory and hard drive are upgradable. As for the 2 GHz processor, well, is it really neccessary? :-) It usually comes without an OS preinstalled, so you need not pay any money to Microsoft for the software you won't be using. :-) Other than working with Fedora, my primary concern was weight --- I tend to carry the laptop around a lot, so it is very important to me that it is as light as possible --- it turned out to be 1.8 kg, which is the lightest I could find (the EeePC is lighter, but doesn't have a true hd and a dvd burner, so doesn't count). You might want to take a look at its specs on the web, to see if it fits your needs. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
servers down again?
bugzilla.redhat.com, fedoraproject.org all I get is spinning cursor in firefox when I try to access them. (This is a little after 6pm eastern Aug 26). I can get to other sites, just fedora/redhat site problems. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: servers down again?
bugzilla.redhat.com, fedoraproject.org all I get is spinning cursor in firefox when I try to access them. (This is a little after 6pm eastern Aug 26). I can get to other sites, just fedora/redhat site problems. It worked for me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Permissions Denied error as root: SOLVED
Mike McCarty wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Having root access only gives one effective ownership, not effective permission. Being root gives one the same privileges the owner would have. It gets more interesting when you have fuse mounted file systems. I have an encrypted file system as user mikkel, and root can not access it, unless I change to user mikkel, even if it is unlocked. That makes perfect sense. Ownership and access are not the same thing. Mike A agree. But in the past, root would have access no matter who owned the files/directories. I like it much better this way - one more step someone with root access has to go through. And if it isn't mounted, then nobody without the pass-phrase can access it anyway. It is kind of funny when installing RPMs to get a message about not being able to stat the file system... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror in SU mode
Jim mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net writes: How do I run Konqueror as Super User. /usr/libexec/kde4/kdesu konqueror Don't ask us why kdesu is not in the search path for executables anymore, ask KDE upstream. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F8/F9 updates
Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org writes: Since Fedora has changed its key now, new pushes requires packages to be (re)signed with the new key. Release engineering is still working out the details with Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. IMHO it would be much safer to push them out with the old key (I sure hope the private key was kept around somewhere - it's also needed to generate revocations!) in the meantime than not to push any updates at all. Some of those updates are security updates, not pushing them effectively means the intruder was successful at DoSing our flow of security updates and rendering target systems vulnerable. I consider the threat of not applying security updates to be much higher than the threat of a potentially compromised (*) signature: many people install completely unsigned packages, e.g. I just fetched build $nevr from Koji, Rawhide packages, third-party packages with no signature (even from servers where it isn't clear whether they can be trusted); people also import signing keys from many third-party repositories whose security practices (or even whose own trustworthiness) are not controlled by the Fedora Project. (*) (even not taking into account the fact that the signing key probably wasn't actually compromised in the first place according to the announcement) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Turn off bash completion?
I'd like to disable the bash completion feature. I've read
the info bash stuff, and I see lots of ways to specify what
happens after or during completion, but I didn't see (overlooked?)
how to turn it off. Any bash gurus out there know how to disable
it entirely?
I don't want to turn off line editing, just completion.
Mike
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