Re: Lower Process Capabilities
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Stephen Smalleys...@tycho.nsa.gov wrote: If you want something more akin to privilege bracketing within a program, then a closer analog in SELinux would be setcon(3) to switch to a more restricted domain. But in general our goal is to enforce security goals at the system level and not depend on the correctness of the application to shed privilege. [snip] But then, of course, we depend on the correctness of the system to deny privileges. Considering the number of users that disable SELinux entirely— this surely can't be counted on. And the historic number of applications which fail to shed privilege (to the limited extents possible) shows that depending on the application also isn't a complete solution. It seems to me that the approaches could be complimentary— It would be very nice if applications could drop any SELinux controlled privileged at runtime, either temporarily or permanently. This would not replace the system level protection but would supplement it by remaining active even if the wider protection were partially disabled, by offering finer granularity, and by giving developers a greater opportunity to participate in the use of SELinux (perhaps resulting in more applications being structured in SELinux friendly ways). Capabilities are agreed to be far too coarse, and they only subset root when we really want to subset user permissions too. SELinux provides many nice hooks. Developers would like to right software that remains as secure as possible even if a user has goofed up the file permissions. Is there no possible improvement here? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?
Deji Akingunola wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Joachimjoachim.frie...@googlemail.com wrote: I think there's a valid case for making an exception to this: when a package is an accelerated version of a particular library. That is, when the basic functionality of a library is available in a i686 Fedora package, but a special SSEx version of the library makes use of faster instructions. Right now, there exist a number of packages which explicitly pull in atlas instead of the also available generic packages blas/lapack which do not exhibit these severe restrictions. Earlier versions of the Fedora atlas package actually supported a wider range of processors including even such offering 3dnow! and also plain x86. The current behaviour (code depending on lapack aborts because of illegal instructions) is a regression which has been introduced by the packager. Correction: The current behaviour was not introduced by the packager, it is because of changes in the upstream's design of the package; Yes, we know that it's an upstream change. I was wondering if there were some way to configure things so that the library only gets used when it would work. unless of course you mean we should be stuck with the old version. The only way to produce atlas binary for architectures not provided for in the upstream tarball, is to bootstrap it on that particular arch. Unfortunately none of Fedora build infrastructure is based on PII or less. I don't quite understand this. Why would we need to bootstrap *on* the old arch to compile it *for* the old arch? Some configury weirdness, presumably. That sounds fixable. Would it be OK if I did a little digging to see if I could fix it? Andrew. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090815 changes
Compose started at Sat Aug 15 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: anaconda-12.15-1.fc12 - Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 1 Broken deps for i386 -- 389-ds-1.1.3-4.fc12.noarch requires 389-ds-admin R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.i586 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-fax-1.6.1-0.24.rc1.fc12.i686 requires libspandsp.so.1 bigboard-0.6.4-12.fc12.i686 requires mugshot = 0:1.1.90-1 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9) dap-hdf4_handler-3.7.9-2.fc11.i586 requires libdap.so.9 dap-hdf4_handler-3.7.9-2.fc11.i586 requires libdapserver.so.6 entertainer-0.4.2-5.fc12.noarch requires pyclutter-cairo octave-forge-20080831-10.fc12.i686 requires octave(api) = 0:api-v32 perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) php-layers-menu-3.2.0-0.2.rc.fc12.noarch requires php-pear(HTML_Template_PHPLIB) plplot-octave-5.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires octave(api) = 0:api-v32 ppl-yap-0.10.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libYap.so python-repoze-what-quickstart-1.0-2.fc12.noarch requires python-repoze-who-plugins-sql qtparted-0.4.5-19.fc11.i586 requires libparted-1.8.so.8 rubygem-main-2.8.4-3.fc12.noarch requires rubygem(fattr) = 0:1.0.3 sems-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-g722-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-gsm-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 sems-speex-1.1.1-2.fc12.i586 requires libspandsp.so.1 serpentine-0.9-5.fc12.noarch requires gnome-python2-nautilus-cd-burner showimg-pgsql-0.9.5-22.fc11.i586 requires libpqxx-2.6.8.so sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libc.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libm.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6()(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4)(64bit) sugar-pippy-34-2.fc12.i686 requires libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit) thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.8.20090513hg.fc12.i686 requires thunderbird 0:3.0-3.6.b4 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-ds-1.1.3-4.fc12.noarch requires 389-ds-admin R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-19.fc11.x86_64 requires openmpi-libs asterisk-fax-1.6.1-0.24.rc1.fc12.x86_64 requires libspandsp.so.1()(64bit) bigboard-0.6.4-12.fc12.x86_64 requires mugshot = 0:1.1.90-1 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires
Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com wrote: Deji Akingunola wrote: unless of course you mean we should be stuck with the old version. The only way to produce atlas binary for architectures not provided for in the upstream tarball, is to bootstrap it on that particular arch. Unfortunately none of Fedora build infrastructure is based on PII or less. I don't quite understand this. Why would we need to bootstrap *on* the old arch to compile it *for* the old arch? Some configury weirdness, presumably. That sounds fixable. Would it be OK if I did a little digging to see if I could fix it? Sure, it'll make some folks happier if you can come up with a fix. Deji -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Build fails in koji, but not anywhere else ... how to debug?
Tom Lane wrote: I've been pursuing, with increasing frustration, the seemingly simple goal of getting mysql to rebuild in rawhide since the mass rebuild. It failed in the mass rebuild (on the same source code which had worked fine a few weeks before), and has failed multiple attempts since then, for example http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1596536name=build.log http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1606630name=build.log http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1606834name=build.log The symptoms are not consistent, although there is some repetition; for example the first and third runs above encountered the same failure. It's usually the x86_64 build that dies, but I think that may just be a reflection of the x86_64 builder being faster than the others. What is frustrating me is that I can't reproduce the problem outside koji where I might have a shot at debugging it. It works fine in F-10, F-11, rawhide, rawhide-via-mock, and everything else I've tried on my own machines. I've tried to try it on RHTS machines, but since neither F-11 nor rawhide install successfully on those machines, that attempt didn't get far either. (And shouldn't somebody be paying closer attention to that?) I'm starting to wonder about corrupted ccache on the koji machines, although unless they all share a common cache that theory doesn't seem to hold much water. I wonder if anyone else has a theory, or at least a suggestion how to debug this problem? Hi Tom, Sorry if this is too obvious, but have you already tried running the failing test via valgrind? Also, it's good to set these variables in your environment, not just when testing, but for day to day usage: # The 171 is arbitrary. any value in 1..255 usually works as well MALLOC_PERTURB_=171 MALLOC_CHECK_=3 In fact, if you're developing and *don't* yet always set those in your environment, add these lines to your shell startup files right away: export MALLOC_CHECK_=3 # http://udrepper.livejournal.com/11429.html export MALLOC_PERTURB_=$(($RANDOM % 255 + 1)) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updates lacking descriptions
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 07:20:46AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Now I agree that extending RPM to add metadata to mark the upstream changelog file or URL would be an excellent idea. It's a one-off change to specfiles and means that we don't need to write the same thing in every update - a win all round. Suggestions: %doc(changelog): ChangeLog.txt Changelog-URL: http://example.com/changes.html How would that work for changelogs stored in a git repository? If it has a web interface, you can link to that: http://git.et.redhat.com/?p=libguestfs.git;a=log If it doesn't then my proposal just degenerates to the one on the table now -- ie. the packager has to write the in the update description. But my proposal would make life far simpler in the (common) case where a changelog can be provided either in a file or online. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 75 OCaml packages (the OPEN alternative to F#) http://cocan.org/getting_started_with_ocaml_on_red_hat_and_fedora -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: That newsgroup is the Gmane gateway to this very list. Blame Gmane for not properly translating the Reply-to when injecting messages to the mailing list. If you reply to mail instead of to the news group, you should get the desired effect. I'm doing it right now in Gnus. Of course it would be even nicer if the Reply-To was gone too, but I can just add broken-reply-to in my Gnus settings for this list as a workaround. /Benny -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 517620] Xchat wants to install additional font Japanese which fails
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517620 Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC|cail...@redhat.com, |extras-orp...@fedoraproject |fed...@famillecollet.com, |.org, |ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org |fedora-fonts-bugs-l...@redh ||at.com, ||fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com ||, ta...@redhat.com Component|xchat |vlgothic-fonts AssignedTo|cail...@redhat.com |extras-orp...@fedoraproject ||.org --- Comment #1 from Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org 2009-08-15 07:38:36 EDT --- The error is a packaging bug with the vlgothic-fonts, reassigning. As for the idea of installing fonts from the network, that one also has nothing to do with XChat, but is implemented entirely on the library level: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutoFontsAndMimeInstaller Complain to the Pango maintainers if you don't like that feature. There's also an option in some config file to turn it off, but I can't find it now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 517635] New: [ne_NP] fc-match showing Lohit Hindi instead of current Language
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [ne_NP] fc-match showing Lohit Hindi instead of current Language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517635 Summary: [ne_NP] fc-match showing Lohit Hindi instead of current Language Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Keywords: i18n Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: aa...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: in Nepali Envirnment (gnome-desktop), fc-match is showing following informating --- $echo $LANG ne_NP.UTF-8 $fc-match lohit_hi.ttf: Lohit Hindi Regular --- Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-nepali-fonts-2.4.0-2.fc12 How reproducible: 100% Steps to Reproduce: 1. login to Gnome-desktop with Nepali Language 2. open gnome-terminal 3. type 'fc-match' Actual results: lohit_hi.ttf: Lohit Hindi Regular Expected results: lohit_ne.ttf: Lohit Nepali Regular or something for Nepali Additional info: I have file /usr/share/fonts/lohit/lohit_ne.tff on system -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 517620] Xchat wants to install additional font Japanese which fails
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517620 --- Comment #2 from Dagan McGregor ardr...@acsonline.co.nz 2009-08-15 17:51:31 EDT --- Well the pop-up to install a Japanese font is very annoying, because I have never seen any chat in any of the channels that would require a Japanese font to display (they're all English channels!). If the default UTC encoding of channels in Xchat requires non-English fonts to display UTC encoding correctly, they need to be included in dependancies. And lastly, there is no 'ignore' option to avoid installing fonts that I don't require to view English language channels. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Thoughts on NOPASSWD and disabling agent forwarding on publictest machines?
Hey, I've been thinking about sudo passwords (particularly on publictest machines, where security holes in apps being developed cant turn up from time to time). Could enabling NOPASSWD for sudo and disabling agent forwarding on publictest machines be a good option for lowering the possible impact if anything were to happen on the publictest machines? The specific situation that I'm thinking about right now is: * Command execution hole in some app in testing (this has happened) * Kernel bugs like the two that have shown up in the past month * People like me regularly entering their FAS password on publictest machines and having SSH agent forwarding enabled Maybe this is being too paranoid or not the best ultimate solution (Mike mentioned that he was looking into alternatives to entering sudo passwords, for example), but it does seem like a real risk given the freedom we allow for testing stuff out on the publictest machines. Thanks, Ricky pgpBHzHd0NyKp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11
I had no problems with the radeon drivers in 2.6.29.6-213 2.6.29.6-217.2.3 2.6.30.4-25 But in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2, X is unable to start. This is Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.6.1.901 (1.6.2 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-5-8 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 i686 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11.i686 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 14 19:46:56 PDT 2009 i686 Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=7cf783f9-8bbb-421c-a919-fd7f6d9ab463 rhgb quiet Build Date: 18 May 2009 02:47:59PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.1.901-1.fc11 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Aug 15 08:06:39 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x640 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0...@1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] rev 0, Mem @ 0xf000/134217728, 0xfeaf/65536, I/O @ 0xc800/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- Section Device IdentifierBuiltin Default ati Device 0 Driverati EndSection Section Screen IdentifierBuiltin Default ati Screen 0 DeviceBuiltin Default ati Device 0 EndSection Section Device IdentifierBuiltin Default vesa Device 0 Drivervesa EndSection Section Screen IdentifierBuiltin Default vesa Screen 0 DeviceBuiltin Default vesa Device 0 EndSection Section Device IdentifierBuiltin Default fbdev Device 0 Driverfbdev EndSection Section Screen IdentifierBuiltin Default fbdev Screen 0 DeviceBuiltin Default fbdev Device 0 EndSection Section ServerLayout IdentifierBuiltin Default Layout ScreenBuiltin Default ati Screen 0 ScreenBuiltin Default vesa Screen 0 ScreenBuiltin Default fbdev Screen 0 EndSection (==) --- End of built-in configuration --- (==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout (**) |--Screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default ati Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (**) |--Screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0 (1) (**) | |--Monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default vesa Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (**) |--Screen Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0 (2) (**) | |--Monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default fbdev Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) FontPath set to: catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) System resource ranges: [0] -100x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [1] -100x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [2] -100x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [3] -100x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [4] -100x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [5] -100x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [6] -100x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [7] -100x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [8] -100x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [9] -100x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [10] -100x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [11] -100x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [12] -100x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [13] -100x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [14] -100x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [15] -100x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [16] -100x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [17] -100x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [18] -100x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [19] -100x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [20] -100x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] [21] -100x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] [22]
Re: Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:15:50 -0700, Markus Kesaromous remotes...@live.com wrote: But in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2, X is unable to start. BTW, it works here on Rawhide, same kernel (a rebuild, obviously): Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11.i686 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 14 19:46:56 PDT 2009 i686 Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=7cf783f9-8bbb-421c-a919-fd7f6d9ab463 rhgb quiet Build Date: 18 May 2009 02:47:59PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.1.901-1.fc11 (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 initing gart:800 vram: s:800 v:7c0 (II) UnloadModule: radeon (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Here it does: Current Operating System: Linux niphredil.zaitcev.lan 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 11 21:00:45 EDT 2009 x86_64 Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/N1/Fedora selinux=0 Build Date: 11 August 2009 02:35:39PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.99-33.20090807.fc12 .. (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 +0+0 (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. (II) RADEON(0): mem size init: gart size :200 vram size: s:800 visible:7c0 (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) (II) Loading sub module fb It looks like some kind of difference between Rawhide and F11. -- Pete ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
RE: Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:23:46 -0600 From: zait...@redhat.com To: remotes...@live.com CC: fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:15:50 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: But in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2, X is unable to start. BTW, it works here on Rawhide, same kernel (a rebuild, obviously): Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11.i686 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 14 19:46:56 PDT 2009 i686 Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=7cf783f9-8bbb-421c-a919-fd7f6d9ab463 rhgb quiet Build Date: 18 May 2009 02:47:59PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.1.901-1.fc11 (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 initing gart:800 vram: s:800 v:7c0 (II) UnloadModule: radeon (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Here it does: Current Operating System: Linux niphredil.zaitcev.lan 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 11 21:00:45 EDT 2009 x86_64 Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/N1/Fedora selinux=0 Build Date: 11 August 2009 02:35:39PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.99-33.20090807.fc12 .. (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected (II) RADEON(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x800 +0+0 (II) RADEON(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. (II) RADEON(0): mem size init: gart size :200 vram size: s:800 visible:7c0 (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) (II) Loading sub module fb It looks like some kind of difference between Rawhide and F11. -- Pete WOw - that's great that your build went better. I downloaded my source tarball from: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/development/source/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc12.src.rpm Where can I download the source tarball you used? Cheers, Markus _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:32:43PM -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:23:46 -0600 From: zait...@redhat.com To: remotes...@live.com CC: fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Radeon driver broken in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2.fc11 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:15:50 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: But in 2.6.31-0.125.4.2.rc5.git2, X is unable to start. Using the F12 kernel on F-11 is unsupported. You get to keep both pieces. regards, Kyle ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: firefox open containing folder
Tim: It was common, and perhaps still is, to suffer that problem if you right-clicked on a folder, and opened the folder with something like a music player, or picture viewer program. It became a permanent setting, rather than something that only happened there and then. Skunk Worx: I don't think I've ever changed it, in fact I remember noticing after the fresh install of F11 it was happening and assumed it would eventually be fixed by updates so I waited a couple months before asking. Recently I managed to accidentally change mine, by using VLC. There was an option to open a whole folder with a button, and I used that to check through a collection of MPEGs in a folder, and afterwards I found my folder preferences had changed. I was not expecting it to do that. I set the association to /usr/bin/nautilus and checked the remember box and things seem ok now. Good to hear it's working properly for you, again. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 02:00:14 +0530, Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote: Are they to be copied from /var/cache/yum to the dir that is to be used as local repo ? On my PC (this is a non-networked desktop PC), this directory has: /fedora/packages/ /updates/packages - both newly-created after I started the Update applet. If the rpms are currently in the cache directory you'd want them someplace else so that they don't get deleted by yum. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On Saturday 15 August 2009 05:23:59 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: After obtaining a list of the hidden directories used by gnome, I was able to rename existing directories, log out, log back in and see if the desktop icons were displayed. Through a series of trials and errors, the problem was in my old ~/.local/share/applications directory. My old version contained 395 entries and the new one contained 2. What is not solved is exactly which of the 394 files is the problem. Almost all the files in the broken directory are desktop configuration files along with a couple of list (text) files. I did copy the wine subdirectory from my broken applications directory to the working one without a problem while resolving missing wine applications that were installed. General tip for handling this kind of thing - 1) copy your existing ~/.local/share/applications directory to something like ~/.local/share/applications_sav 2) restore one directory from the broken directory 3) if there are problems, you have identified the source. Copy ~/.local/share/applications_sav back to ~/.local/share/applications 3_sub) create the directory that you wanted to copy back and restore essential files from it, one at a time, until it breaks. Now you have the real culprit, and must recreate that one from scratch. 4) repeat as necessary - don't forget to start from 1) so that you always have the partially restored and still working version. Slow, yes, but you will get back most of what you had. Making a guess at your applications most likely to have been in use when the problem occurred would be a good starting place. Identifying the problem(s) at the beginning of the process is less nerve-wracking than getting a long way and still being unsure. :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Internal laptop Microphone with very low gain - HDA-Intel SigmaTel STAC9228
Tim said the following on 08/14/2009 10:01 PM: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 01:41 +1000, Vini Engel wrote: I was wondering if anyone has ever been able to resolve the issues that exist with the sound card below and the low gain of the internal microphone of the laptop. The mic works and so does the external one when plugged, the problem is that the volume of everything captured by the internal mic extremely low and almost impossible to hear sometimes. Are their hidden mixer options which include a mic boost? It increases the gain of the input amplifier. You may need it off to record really loud sounds (where turning the level down doesn't stop the pre-amp from clipping ahead of the level control), or you may need it on to increase the gain. It's an option that's often needed. I can remember that most windows machines have it. I haven't seen this option on a linux machine for a while. I do agree with you I need that option to make my mic work well but that option is no where to be found. I found something for alsa which creates a pseudo booster, it kind of works but puts a lot of noisy in the sounds and not all applications can see it. Do you or does anyone know hot to enable to mic boot option? Thanks Vini -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Internal laptop Microphone with very low gain - HDA-Intel SigmaTel STAC9228
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Vini Engel v...@fugspbr.org wrote: Tim said the following on 08/14/2009 10:01 PM: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 01:41 +1000, Vini Engel wrote: I was wondering if anyone has ever been able to resolve the issues that exist with the sound card below and the low gain of the internal microphone of the laptop. The mic works and so does the external one when plugged, the problem is that the volume of everything captured by the internal mic extremely low and almost impossible to hear sometimes. Are their hidden mixer options which include a mic boost? It increases the gain of the input amplifier. You may need it off to record really loud sounds (where turning the level down doesn't stop the pre-amp from clipping ahead of the level control), or you may need it on to increase the gain. It's an option that's often needed. I can remember that most windows machines have it. I haven't seen this option on a linux machine for a while. I do agree with you I need that option to make my mic work well but that option is no where to be found. I found something for alsa which creates a pseudo booster, it kind of works but puts a lot of noisy in the sounds and not all applications can see it. Do you or does anyone know hot to enable to mic boot option? There is no such option for the driver you are using. It is an alsa problem. I also have a dell laptop with the same problem. Mic too low. You can file a bug report on ALSA site, or ask in the forum. I have already done that in the past, and got no solution. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Miro and My Audio Problems
Hi Folks, I'm running Fedora 11 x86_64 and I recently installed Miro 2.0.5-3. Now I normally have video and audio issues right out of the box because I don't have all the packages needed. I stumbled upon a quick fix one day while running Fedora 10. I installed mythtv and it seemed to have installed all the video and audio support I needed. So; this time I did a yum-depbuild mythtv which installed all the dependent packages and not the main package. Well; I can play video just fine in Miro, but I can't hear the audio. It works fine while playing a OGV file, but it doesn't with M4V and MP4 files. Which packages am I missing? Thanks. -- Marc Ferguson www.fergytech.com www.digitalalias.net When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Miro and My Audio Problems
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:10:32 -0400, Marc wrote: Hi Folks, I'm running Fedora 11 x86_64 and I recently installed Miro 2.0.5-3. Now I normally have video and audio issues right out of the box because I don't have all the packages needed. I stumbled upon a quick fix one day while running Fedora 10. I installed mythtv and it seemed to have installed all the video and audio support I needed. So; this time I did a yum-depbuild mythtv which installed all the dependent packages and not the main package. ?? Do you mean yum-builddep? If so, please re-read its manual page, because what the tool does is not related to what you thought it would do. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 10:31 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 15 August 2009 05:23:59 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: After obtaining a list of the hidden directories used by gnome, I was able to rename existing directories, log out, log back in and see if the desktop icons were displayed. Through a series of trials and errors, the problem was in my old ~/.local/share/applications directory. My old version contained 395 entries and the new one contained 2. What is not solved is exactly which of the 394 files is the problem. Almost all the files in the broken directory are desktop configuration files along with a couple of list (text) files. I did copy the wine subdirectory from my broken applications directory to the working one without a problem while resolving missing wine applications that were installed. General tip for handling this kind of thing - 1) copy your existing ~/.local/share/applications directory to something like ~/.local/share/applications_sav 2) restore one directory from the broken directory 3) if there are problems, you have identified the source. Copy ~/.local/share/applications_sav back to ~/.local/share/applications 3_sub) create the directory that you wanted to copy back and restore essential files from it, one at a time, until it breaks. Now you have the real culprit, and must recreate that one from scratch. 4) repeat as necessary - don't forget to start from 1) so that you always have the partially restored and still working version. Slow, yes, but you will get back most of what you had. Making a guess at your applications most likely to have been in use when the problem occurred would be a good starting place. Identifying the problem(s) at the beginning of the process is less nerve-wracking than getting a long way and still being unsure. :-) Alternatively, use a binary search (divide the candidates into two disjoint subsets, test one, then the other, reject the good one, subdivide the bad into two subsets and repeat recursively, see Search Algorithms 101). Requires careful bookkeeping but is potentially a lot faster. Also useful for finding broken extensions in Firefox :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
wireless problem
I have installed FEDORA11 in laptop.i am not able to connect wi-fi in laptop.how shall i do? Any one help me. -- Sandeep Kumar Patel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless problem
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 19:35 +0530, sandeep Patel wrote: I have installed FEDORA11 in laptop.i am not able to connect wi-fi in laptop.how shall i do? Any one help me. No-one can help you unless you give more information. What make and model of laptop do you have? Is Wifi built-in or do you have an external device (dongle)? What happens when you try to connect? Is your Wifi router properly configured (e.g. can you connect other devices to it)? It might also be relevant to state how you did the installation, e.g. from a Live CD (or USB), from a full install DVD, by upgrading an existing installation, etc. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless problem
On 08/15/2009 10:09 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 19:35 +0530, sandeep Patel wrote: I have installed FEDORA11 in laptop.i am not able to connect wi-fi in laptop.how shall i do? Any one help me. No-one can help you unless you give more information. What make and model of laptop do you have? Is Wifi built-in or do you have an external device (dongle)? What happens when you try to connect? Is your Wifi router properly configured (e.g. can you connect other devices to it)? It might also be relevant to state how you did the installation, e.g. from a Live CD (or USB), from a full install DVD, by upgrading an existing installation, etc. poc Additionally, if you do an lspci (assuming a built-in wireless) you can see what the chip is. Normally, many laptops with AMD processors use some version of Broadcom, and you would need to obtain the firmware for it, which is well documented. But, as Patrick mentioned, no one can help you unless we know what wireless chip is in use on your laptop. Additionally, the output of dmesg can also tell you something. If you are sending this informaiton to the list, please paste only the relevant lines, not the entire lspci and dmesg. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 02:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: If the rpms are currently in the cache directory you'd want them someplace else so that they don't get deleted by yum. Or set yum to not delete the cache... -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 23:52 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 02:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: If the rpms are currently in the cache directory you'd want them someplace else so that they don't get deleted by yum. Or set yum to not delete the cache... +1 An option to not delete the latest version of installed packages from the cache would be useful in some scenarios, e.g. cloning an installation. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On 08/15/2009 09:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 10:31 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 15 August 2009 05:23:59 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: After obtaining a list of the hidden directories used by gnome, I was able to rename existing directories, log out, log back in and see if the desktop icons were displayed. Through a series of trials and errors, the problem was in my old ~/.local/share/applications directory. My old version contained 395 entries and the new one contained 2. What is not solved is exactly which of the 394 files is the problem. Almost all the files in the broken directory are desktop configuration files along with a couple of list (text) files. I did copy the wine subdirectory from my broken applications directory to the working one without a problem while resolving missing wine applications that were installed. General tip for handling this kind of thing - 1) copy your existing ~/.local/share/applications directory to something like ~/.local/share/applications_sav 2) restore one directory from the broken directory 3) if there are problems, you have identified the source. Copy ~/.local/share/applications_sav back to ~/.local/share/applications 3_sub) create the directory that you wanted to copy back and restore essential files from it, one at a time, until it breaks. Now you have the real culprit, and must recreate that one from scratch. 4) repeat as necessary - don't forget to start from 1) so that you always have the partially restored and still working version. Slow, yes, but you will get back most of what you had. Making a guess at your applications most likely to have been in use when the problem occurred would be a good starting place. Identifying the problem(s) at the beginning of the process is less nerve-wracking than getting a long way and still being unsure. :-) Alternatively, use a binary search (divide the candidates into two disjoint subsets, test one, then the other, reject the good one, subdivide the bad into two subsets and repeat recursively, see Search Algorithms 101). Requires careful bookkeeping but is potentially a lot faster. Also useful for finding broken extensions in Firefox :-) poc It was late in the morning, as seen at then end of a waking day, when I finally found the directory that was causing my desktop problems. I had already used the method that Anne Wilson described to narrow down my problem to the single directory ~/.local/share/applications, renaming directories to effectively delete them but still had them available. I also used a pseudo binary search technique. While I did not divide potential directories in have, I did have an idea which directories were not the problem and was able to narrow the search down to three of the gnome hidden directories. When I have more time, I hope to investigate what file caused my problems in the application directory. I did verify that the application files involving my wine applications, both of them, was working. I will need to look at the other files to see which ones are worth testing vs. recreating as needed. One thing that does bother me about my ~/.local/share/applications-bad directory is that multiple desktop configuration files exist for the same applications. The worst case appears to be for Audacious; there are seven different desktop configuration files for it. I suspect that my problem originated from my attempts to reorganize my Gnome menus, using the edit menus dialog. So it looks like I will need to learn more about gnome and how it deals with its menus and the directory and desktop configuration files. The difficult part of that will be figuring out exactly where it is all stored and how the different components are related; what directories, what xml files, etc. Pointers to gnome documentation would be appreciated; I have already started reading the documentation available at www.gnome.org, GNOME: The Free Software Desktop Project. -- Steven F. LeBrun Quote: /Behold the lowly turtle, the astronaut had quoted. He only makes progress when he sticks his neck out./ -- Ben Bova, from /Return to Mars/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Miro and My Audio Problems
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:10:32 -0400, Marc wrote: Hi Folks, I'm running Fedora 11 x86_64 and I recently installed Miro 2.0.5-3. Now I normally have video and audio issues right out of the box because I don't have all the packages needed. I stumbled upon a quick fix one day while running Fedora 10. I installed mythtv and it seemed to have installed all the video and audio support I needed. So; this time I did a yum-depbuild mythtv which installed all the dependent packages and not the main package. ?? Do you mean yum-builddep? If so, please re-read its manual page, because what the tool does is not related to what you thought it would do. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hey Michael you are absolutely right about yum-builddep. It's not what I thought it was. Is there such a procedure of installing dependent packages without installing the main package? In this scenario, I guess I'm looking for MP4 and M4V support. -- Marc Ferguson www.fergytech.com www.digitalalias.net When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What replaces system-config-display
Diego, xrandr to configure resolution/dualhead. That's what I needed to know and as you said: we'll have to wait 'till then Thank you very much for your time. Regards, +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |E|d|u|a|r|d|o| |L|a|n|d|a|v|e|r|i| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+ |G|N|U|-|L|i|n|u|x| |U|s|e|r| |4|3|3|5|1|2| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On 08/15/2009 08:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 02:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: If the rpms are currently in the cache directory you'd want them someplace else so that they don't get deleted by yum. Or set yum to not delete the cache... Which you can do by editing /etc/yum.conf and changing the line: keepcache=0 to keepcache=1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What replaces system-config-display
On 08/15/2009 12:24 PM, Ed Landaveri wrote: xrandr to configure resolution/dualhead. That's what I needed to know and as you said: we'll have to wait 'till then Thank you very much for your time. system-config-display is still around system-config-display-1.1.3-2.fc11 (noarch) -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
HDA Intel sound card problem
Hello everybody, i don't have any idea how can i fix it. As i said I have HDA Intel sound card: Codec: STAC92HD73* lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) aplay -l: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0: Codec: IDT 92HD75B2X5 I've tried everything :) I added to /etc/modprobe.d/dist.conf 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6' line (dell-m6 is for codec STAC92HD73*), but it still doesn't work. (nothing is muted of course) :) any ideas? thanks. -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
(duplicate?) HDA Intel sound card problem
(if dup - sorry) Hello everybody, i don't have any idea how can i fix it. As i said I have HDA Intel sound card: Codec: STAC92HD73* lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) aplay -l: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0: Codec: IDT 92HD75B2X5 I've tried everything :) I added to /etc/modprobe.d/dist.conf 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6' line (dell-m6 is for codec STAC92HD73*), but it still doesn't work. (nothing is muted of course) :) any ideas? thanks. -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On Saturday 15 August 2009 16:33:40 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: One thing that does bother me about my ~/.local/share/applications-bad directory is that multiple desktop configuration files exist for the same applications. The worst case appears to be for Audacious; there are seven different desktop configuration files for it. Glad you're getting nearer. I'm curious about this ^^ statement. Can you look inside some of those files? Do they look as though they actually are all for Audacious, or whether something else went wrong, like a corrupted index, that might cause them to be mis-named? Are there many applications that have these duplicated file? And are they applications that were in use (or being launched) at the time of corruption? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 09:06 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: On 08/15/2009 08:22 AM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 02:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: If the rpms are currently in the cache directory you'd want them someplace else so that they don't get deleted by yum. Or set yum to not delete the cache... Which you can do by editing /etc/yum.conf and changing the line: keepcache=0 to keepcache=1 As I said earlier, it would be useful to keep only the latest versions, i.e. when a package is updated, remove the old cached rpm. Maybe that's what keepcache=1 already does, but the man page is not clear. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Updating methods
I've been dutifully updating my own machines with gpk-update- viewer; but ssh -X for some reason doesn't seem to handle it well when I update my wife's, on another floor. So, rather than bite off more troubleshooting than I can hope to chew, I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. This practice rubs my nose in all the reboots that PackageKit keeps demanding, since yum never does. They're very irritating, since I always have things in process on my own machines waiting for me to get the proper round tuits -- and many of those, such as instances of Dillo, do not survive rebooting. Would somebody please explain to me, again, in words of one syllable, why we're putting up with all the un-Linux-like rebooting? What am I gaining on my machines, or losing on hers?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:33 AM, dariusz rojewski dar...@pld-linux.orgwrote: Hello everybody, i don't have any idea how can i fix it. As i said I have HDA Intel sound card: Codec: STAC92HD73* lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) aplay -l: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0: Codec: IDT 92HD75B2X5 I've tried everything :) I added to /etc/modprobe.d/dist.conf 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6' line (dell-m6 is for codec STAC92HD73*), but it still doesn't work. (nothing is muted of course) :) any ideas? thanks. -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines You could try installing gst-mixer (yum install gst-mixer) and verify the settings there. For Fedora 10 from initial install until recently in Fedora 11 I was having no-end of trouble with Intel sound. I saw a message here where someone suggested installing this program and and running it I found my pcm settings set to 0 (though my alsa and pulse audio controls always showed that my pcm channel was set to 100%). I am not sure why I could not solve this with the existing pre-installed tools but you could try this... Best of luck, Fennix -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Saturday 15 August 2009 19:33:32 Beartooth wrote: I've been dutifully updating my own machines with gpk-update- viewer; but ssh -X for some reason doesn't seem to handle it well when I update my wife's, on another floor. So, rather than bite off more troubleshooting than I can hope to chew, I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. This practice rubs my nose in all the reboots that PackageKit keeps demanding, since yum never does. They're very irritating, since I always have things in process on my own machines waiting for me to get the proper round tuits -- and many of those, such as instances of Dillo, do not survive rebooting. Would somebody please explain to me, again, in words of one syllable, why we're putting up with all the un-Linux-like rebooting? What am I gaining on my machines, or losing on hers?? I'm surprised you are being asked to reboot frequently. However, that all depends on your definition of 'frequently'. If you install a new kernel you need to reboot to use it. If your desktop does a serious update, such as moving from KDE 4.2 to KDE 4.3, you need to log out, and start a new desktop session. There may be one or two other conditions that people want to point out, but these are the main ones that I consider. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 06:33:32PM +, Beartooth wrote: Would somebody please explain to me, again, in words of one syllable, why we're putting up with all the un-Linux-like rebooting? What am I gaining on my machines, or losing on hers?? I'll give a plain answer but I'll keep it off-list. All this *Kit stuff is bringing the worst of Windows to Linux, and it's being done in a way that completely subverts a normal Unix-like system. Someone should stop this madness. Ciao, -- FA Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On 08/15/2009 01:39 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 15 August 2009 16:33:40 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: One thing that does bother me about my ~/.local/share/applications-bad directory is that multiple desktop configuration files exist for the same applications. The worst case appears to be for Audacious; there are seven different desktop configuration files for it. Glad you're getting nearer. I'm curious about this ^^ statement. Can you look inside some of those files? Do they look as though they actually are all for Audacious, or whether something else went wrong, like a corrupted index, that might cause them to be mis-named? Are there many applications that have these duplicated file? And are they applications that were in use (or being launched) at the time of corruption? Anne It appears that I am getting different results with different programs when I look at my application-bad directory. When I use Nautilus, the default app used when opening my home directory, it lists multiple files with the same application name, in this example Audacious. These file names do not include an extension and their type is listed as desktop configuration file. When I use Emacs to display the same directory, each file has a unique file name. Grepping the directory yielded this list: grep -nH -e Audacious *.* alacarte-made-37.desktop:9:Name=Audacious alacarte-made-37.desktop:10:Name[en_US]=Audacious fedora-audacious.desktop:12:Name=Audacious fedora-audacious-plugins.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-aac.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-alac.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-mp3.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-wma.desktop:10:Name=Audacious My guess is that Nautilus is opening the desktop file and displaying the name value from within the file instead of the file name. This provides the illusion that there are multiple files of the same name. Up until now, and probably in the near future, I have not modified any of the gnome menu, directory and desktop files directly. All my changes have been through applet available by right clicking on the main menu and select the Edit Menus option. The Gnome Desktop System Administration Guide, section 2. Customizing Menus, provides the information on the format of the .menu, .directory and .desktop files and tells how they are scattered all over the system with system defaults and user overrides. No wonder I could not tell how the menus are built; they use so many files and in many cases scan directories for more information to add to the menus. Complex but once explained it is easy (relatively) to follow. My hat is off to the people who QA this feature; there are so many variations that affect the Gnome menus it must have been a nightmare to test extensively. BTW. My hats are fedoras, completely independent of the OS that I am using. -- Steven F. LeBrun Quote: /The objection to fairy stories is that they tell children there are dragons. But children have always known there are dragons. Fairy stories tell children that dragons can be killed./ -- G.K. Chesterton -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
2009/8/15 Fons Adriaensen f...@kokkinizita.net: All this *Kit stuff is bringing the worst of Windows to Linux, and it's being done in a way that completely subverts a normal Unix-like system. Someone should stop this madness. Ha, that's funny! Basically, the problem is that Linux is quite capable of running old versions of libraries that no longer exist. But imagine this scenario: User is using gimp. pidgin has an update, that fixes a remote exploitable crash. User updates software. User is still using old version that has been updated, and is still exploitable. User needs to log out and back in, or restart all pidgin instances. User is using firefox. openssl has a security update. User updates software. Firefox is still using old version of the library that is insecure. User needs to restart the computer, so that all daemons and user software using openssl load and start using the new version. Or they could switch to run level 1 and then back to 5, although that's pretty much a restart in my book. So sure, you don't /have/ to reboot, but you're not going to get the benefit (or the protection) of the newly installed updates until you do. Thinking otherwise is incorrect. You might have thought that Linux is magic and can update shared libraries behind the scenes and programs automatically switch to the new installed instance, but it can't, sorry. Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
2009/8/15 Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net: I've been dutifully updating my own machines with gpk-update- viewer; but ssh -X for some reason doesn't seem to handle it well when I update my wife's, on another floor. So, rather than bite off more troubleshooting than I can hope to chew, I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. You need to change the authorisations in polkit-gnome-authorization before PackageKit will let you do trusted stuff without being on console. Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 18:33 +, Beartooth wrote: I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. Why the yum clean all? It's almost never necessary to do this unless your yum database is screwed up. All your doing is wasting time downloading stuff again. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,
Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote:
I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
Is it possible to have a local cache/ repository of all
1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
e.g.
Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
/etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.
As an extension of this: is it possible to upgrade a Fedora 10 install to
Fedora 11, by using the Fedora 11 DVD as a local repository ? This would
save me (and also lot of other people who do not have fast Internet
connections and/or with time-capped Internet subscriptions), a lot of
bandwidth and time (and $$).
(As a 'by the by', I also prefer the Fedora 10 theme artwork ('Solar'
theme) over Fedora 11's).
Thanks,
Jay
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thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
Hi, I upgraded the thunderbird package on my fc11 and have now 3.0b3, beside the changed icons, the enigmail extension seams to be broken, it does not show the bar on top of signed messages any more. On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? kind regards, Christoph signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:05:29 +0530, Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote: As an extension of this: is it possible to upgrade a Fedora 10 install to Fedora 11, by using the Fedora 11 DVD as a local repository ? This would save me (and also lot of other people who do not have fast Internet connections and/or with time-capped Internet subscriptions), a lot of bandwidth and time (and $$). Yes. That's what happens normally when you upgrade using a DVD or CD. You possibly still want to enable the updates and everything repositories to handle updating stuff that is either not on the DVD/CD or stuff that has had updates since the DVD/CD image was created. In your case you may not want to do that, because that could trigger a lot of downloading that you may want to spread out over time. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:41:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 18:33 +, I Beartooth wrote: I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. Why the yum clean all? It's almost never necessary to do this unless your yum database is screwed up. All your doing is wasting time downloading stuff again. Really? I've been doing it so long I don't even remember where I picked it up. Once or twice something seemed to work better after that command, so I made a habit of it. Did it use to help more often? I've been around longer than yum -- and still mean what my .sig says -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:04:16 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: [] So sure, you don't /have/ to reboot, but you're not going to get the benefit (or the protection) of the newly installed updates until you do. Thinking otherwise is incorrect. You might have thought that Linux is magic and can update shared libraries behind the scenes and programs automatically switch to the new installed instance, but it can't, sorry. IOW, all those people with little auto-updaters in their .sigs saying how long they've been running are asking for trouble?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:05:33 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/8/15 Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net: I've been dutifully updating my own machines with gpk-update- viewer; but ssh -X for some reason doesn't seem to handle it well when I update my wife's, on another floor. So, rather than bite off more troubleshooting than I can hope to chew, I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. You need to change the authorisations in polkit-gnome-authorization before PackageKit will let you do trusted stuff without being on console. Well, that makes sense; and I presume you mean the executable in / usr/bin, rather than the config file in /usr/share/applications; but ouch! There are scads of them! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
Hi Richard, On Saturday 15 August 2009 12:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: Basically, the problem is that Linux is quite capable of running old versions of libraries that no longer exist. But imagine this scenario: ...snip So sure, you don't /have/ to reboot, but you're not going to get the benefit (or the protection) of the newly installed updates until you do. Thinking otherwise is incorrect. You might have thought that Linux is magic and can update shared libraries behind the scenes and programs automatically switch to the new installed instance, but it can't, sorry. I think I have noticed this a number of times, but I am not exactly sure. PackageKit seems to not differentiate between logouts and restarts. So after kernel updates it would say restart is needed which is perfectly reasonable, but it would say the same for something requiring just a logout. Am I remembering incorrectly or have others noticed this too? If that is indeed the case then the OP's problems might be related and this could be a bug in packagekit. Thank you. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On Saturday 15 August 2009 01:29 PM, Christoph A. wrote: Hi, I upgraded the thunderbird package on my fc11 and have now 3.0b3, beside the changed icons, Yeah this kinda scared me until your message. They are very similar to the icons used by claw (I have it installed), and I was thinking did I screw something up to mess and mix-up the icons. :P On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( However I did notice that there is a thread preview instead of displaying the first message if I select a collapsed thread. Very neat indeed. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:53:20 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: So after kernel updates it would say restart is needed which is perfectly reasonable, but it would say the same for something requiring just a logout. I just saw this happen on this computer: It told me that I needed to log out and log back in and asked if I wanted to do that. I said yes, and it brought up the shutdown/halt/reboot menu. So it seems to know what's needed but brings up the shutdown menu anyway. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Saturday 15 August 2009 12:35 PM, Jay Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Bruno Wolff IIIbr...@wolff.to wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530,
Jay Mistryjaylinu...@gmail.com wrote:
I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this:
Is it possible to have a local cache/ repository of all
1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and
2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit),
e.g.
Opera, Adobe Reader, etc.
so that I do not have to download all those again (800 MB + D/L)
Sure. Just put the rpms of interest in a directory, run createrepo on the
directory and set up an appropriate repo description in
/etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo for some value of *.
For myself I usually mirror the relevant arch parts of updates and
updates-testing and only put a few special things in a local repo.
As an extension of this: is it possible to upgrade a Fedora 10 install to
Fedora 11, by using the Fedora 11 DVD as a local repository ? This would
save me (and also lot of other people who do not have fast Internet
connections and/or with time-capped Internet subscriptions), a lot of
bandwidth and time (and $$).
This thread might be useful for creating a local repo
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/thread.html#01934
(As a 'by the by', I also prefer the Fedora 10 theme artwork ('Solar'
theme) over Fedora 11's).
Me too! I don't understand why none of the Leonidas art work has a lion
on it. I was pretty excited when I saw the logo on the project website,
but as much disappointed when I found out no lion in the actual
artwork. :(
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Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2009 04:00 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Saturday 15 August 2009 01:29 PM, Christoph A. wrote: Hi, I upgraded the thunderbird package on my fc11 and have now 3.0b3, beside the changed icons, Yeah this kinda scared me until your message. They are very similar to the icons used by claw (I have it installed), and I was thinking did I screw something up to mess and mix-up the icons. :P On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( However I did notice that there is a thread preview instead of displaying the first message if I select a collapsed thread. Very neat indeed. :) You can get a compatible version of Enigmail here: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php - -- Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqHL9IACgkQeERILVgMyvALSQCfQjimAMHTBqWPmFSKIlKWconY BKgAmwW4lD1Ecs4FjXrAH5IT2fWBdtK9 =htQc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 20:37 +, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:41:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 18:33 +, I Beartooth wrote: I've just gone back to plain ssh to my userid on her machine, then su - , then yum clean all followed by yum update. Why the yum clean all? It's almost never necessary to do this unless your yum database is screwed up. All your doing is wasting time downloading stuff again. Really? I've been doing it so long I don't even remember where I picked it up. Once or twice something seemed to work better after that command, so I made a habit of it. Did it use to help more often? I've been around longer than yum -- and still mean what my .sig says yum clean all simply removes metadata and packages from the local cache, i.e. it effectively negates any advantage of using the cache at all. It's *occasionally* recommended to do this to fix problems with the database and force a complete reload (though more common is yum clean metadata which keeps the package rpms themselves) but it's definitely not something you want to just do automatically every time. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Running script after X starts
I disable the touchpad on my Thinkpad T43 by giving the command sudo synclient TouchpadOff=1 I've tried putting /usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1 in /etc/rc.d/rc.local but this doesn't seem to work, I assume because it is run before X starts. I've also tried adding various lines in my SynapticsTouchPad stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but none of these have had the desired effect. How can one add a script to be run after X starts? Or is there some other way of turning off my touchpad, and using the pointer instead? I'm running Fedora-11 + KDE. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 20:43 +, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:04:16 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: [] So sure, you don't /have/ to reboot, but you're not going to get the benefit (or the protection) of the newly installed updates until you do. Thinking otherwise is incorrect. You might have thought that Linux is magic and can update shared libraries behind the scenes and programs automatically switch to the new installed instance, but it can't, sorry. IOW, all those people with little auto-updaters in their .sigs saying how long they've been running are asking for trouble?? Other than reboots forced by power outages or changing hardware, IIRC you need to reboot 1) when you install a new kernel, 2) when you install a new version of glibc, and 3) if you turn SElinux off or on. Practically everything else can be managed without rebooting, though for many people (especially desktop users) it's easier just to do it rather than work out if it's required. Note that updating Gnome or KDE does *not* require a reboot. Just log out and in again. The same goes for X itself. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564 made the job You can get a compatible version of Enigmail here: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php as long as signing works I can live with the current situation we'll see when the fc11 enigmail package gets updated thanks for your replies Christoph signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
2009/8/15 Fennix cn.ste...@gmail.com On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:33 AM, dariusz rojewski dar...@pld-linux.orgwrote: [...] You could try installing gst-mixer (yum install gst-mixer) and verify the settings there. For Fedora 10 from initial install until recently in Fedora 11 I was having no-end of trouble with Intel sound. I saw a message here where someone suggested installing this program and and running it I found my pcm settings set to 0 (though my alsa and pulse audio controls always showed that my pcm channel was set to 100%). I am not sure why I could not solve this with the existing pre-installed tools but you could try this... Best of luck, Fennix Thanks, but i've already tried it. pcm is set to 100%. -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On 08/15/2009 06:50 PM, Christoph A. wrote: On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564 made the job You can get a compatible version of Enigmail here: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php as long as signing works I can live with the current situation we'll see when the fc11 enigmail package gets updated It just updated on my system Now, if the Lightning update would just get released thanks for your replies Christoph -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Flash 10 x64?
Anyone got an RPM version of Adobe's Flash 10 pre-release for x64? I really don't like trying to install tarball versions of plugins. For some reason it never seems to work right. :-( -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10 x64?
On 08/15/2009 07:20 PM, John Aldrich wrote: Anyone got an RPM version of Adobe's Flash 10 pre-release for x64? I really don't like trying to install tarball versions of plugins. For some reason it never seems to work right. :-( Well, since the tarball contains only ONE file, and it gets put in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, how can you go wrong? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10 x64?
On 08/15/2009 07:20 PM, John Aldrich wrote: Anyone got an RPM version of Adobe's Flash 10 pre-release for x64? I really don't like trying to install tarball versions of plugins. For some reason it never seems to work right. :-( The tar.gz http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10 x64?
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:20:37 -0400 John Aldrich wrote: Anyone got an RPM version of Adobe's Flash 10 pre-release for x64? I really don't like trying to install tarball versions of plugins. For some reason it never seems to work right. Just install it in your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory, i.e. under your home directory. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On Saturday 15 August 2009 03:50 PM, Christoph A. wrote: On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564 made the job Thank you for that one. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10 x64?
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Re: Flash 10 x64?
On Saturday 15 August 2009, Andre Robatino wrote: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205642 Thanks... Despite my misgivings at using a tarball, I went ahead and used the tarball. Works fine. I'm still waiting for an official RPM, though. :-) I much prefer RPMs. Up until about 4 or 5 months ago, I was still using FC6 (I really hated having to blow everything away and reinstalling every 6 months! G) and could never get tarball versions of the plugins to work. This works like a charm thanks to all who encouraged me to install it. :-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Running script after X starts
Timothy Murphy wrote: I disable the touchpad on my Thinkpad T43 by giving the command sudo synclient TouchpadOff=1 I've tried putting /usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1 in /etc/rc.d/rc.local but this doesn't seem to work, I assume because it is run before X starts. I've also tried adding various lines in my SynapticsTouchPad stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but none of these have had the desired effect. How can one add a script to be run after X starts? Or is there some other way of turning off my touchpad, and using the pointer instead? I'm running Fedora-11 + KDE. You cab try adding a script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recompile kernel without SMP
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Paul Grinberg on 08/14/2009 11:37 AM wrote: I am trying to recompile kernel without SMP. No need to recompile. Add nosmp to your kernel command line on bootup. You can set maxcpu=1 as well, but it will still be an SMP kernel, with the assorted logic which keeps processors from stepping on each other. It will make a small (essentially meaningless) performance improvement on a uniprocessor machine, to quote myself measurable but not meaningful in magnitude. This was important when we ran on 386-16 CPUs with 8MB RAM, it means essentially nothing now, other than he should be able to do it. Stupid question #1: you did look in grub.conf to see that you are booting the right kernel? That your new kernel is even in grub.conf? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Acer netbooks
Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I'm looking one for my second daughter Ubuntu ain't an option for her. Thanks a lot! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |E|d|u|a|r|d|o| |L|a|n|d|a|v|e|r|i| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+ |G|N|U|-|L|i|n|u|x| |U|s|e|r| |4|3|3|5|1|2| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Acer netbooks
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ed Landaverilandav...@inbox.com wrote: Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I am running the stock os on mine, but I heavily modified it to behave like normal. I removed the acer menu, tweaked the login a bit, and set a nice background. Everything works well, and I've been using it for about 6 months now. I dind't want the hassle of wifi or something not working. If you are sending your daughter to school, the stock os might be the way to go as well. Just a thought. -- -=/Thom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Virtual Hosts
I have several virtual hosts that I just configured on my server, and now I have seemed to break my webmail ability. I used to be able to type in www.domain.ca/webmail and get a login, however I now get a forbidden page. Do I need to create a webmail virtual host to get this to work again? Thanks. -- -=/Thom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Acer netbooks
On 08/15/2009 09:27 PM, Ed Landaveri wrote: Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I've installed F11 on a Acer Aspire One (Atom, XP edition) and it's running fine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating methods
Patrick O'Callaghan: Why the yum clean all? It's almost never necessary to do this unless your yum database is screwed up. All your doing is wasting time downloading stuff again. Beartooth: Really? I've been doing it so long I don't even remember where I picked it up. Probably from some dumb advice on this list. I keep seeing people stupidly say do yum clean all to solve some problem. I say stupidly, because they offer the advice without good reason, or when it's got absolutely nothing to do with the problem. It's the same as Windows users blindly doing reboot reinstall. Hoping that for some strange reason, doing the exact same thing over and over will generate a different result. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Virtual Hosts
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 23:04 -0400, Thom Paine wrote: I have several virtual hosts that I just configured on my server, and now I have seemed to break my webmail ability. I used to be able to type in www.domain.ca/webmail and get a login, however I now get a forbidden page. Did you really use *that* domain? It's a real domain. Don't just fake up domains without thought (for use on LANs, or in email examples). [...@suspishus ~]$ dig domain.ca ; DiG 9.5.1-P2 domain.ca ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35382 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;domain.ca. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: domain.ca. 60 IN A 198.66.247.103 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: domain.ca. 86400 IN NS ns1.secure.net. domain.ca. 86400 IN NS ns2.secure.net. Do you have a working domain server? Are you using hosts files? Are the hosts files set up properly? I see lots of people doing daft things with their hosts files (such as putting their own domain names onto the local loopback address lines), then wondering why things go wrong later on. Do I need to create a webmail virtual host to get this to work again? Can't tell without knowing your configuration, before and after the problem. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 10:40 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: An option to not delete the latest version of installed packages from the cache would be useful in some scenarios, e.g. cloning an installation. I wish there was an easy way to specify 2 or 3 versions of all packages should be kept. That makes it easier to revert if an upgrade turns out to be a downgrade. It can be hard to find older versions of packages on some mirrors. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: no hardware acceleration?
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Mauriat Miranda wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Michael Hennebryhenne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: Whatever its origin, nv was the driver name. My current problem is getting suspend to disk working again. Either you diagnose the problem or switch the previous Nvidia driver. To diagnose, see if you see anything in the logs: /var/log/messages /var/log/pm-suspend.log The only interesting thing is from messages: Aug 1 09:12:37 localhost restorecond: Read error (Interrupted system call) I don't know what it means. google didn't help. pm-suspend.log says all is well. Try the hal quirks page: http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/ I haven't been able to use any quirks. pm-suspend gives me: System does not support suspend sleep. I haven't been able to figure out which file to edit to use a quirk that way. It's possible that the only problem is that the backlight on my AOC LCD doesn't turn on. If I can't get a quirk to do it, is there a way to do it manually? I could do a cntrl-alt-F4 and type blind if I knew what to type. Since I can ssh into it, I expect that would work. Or to disable the nvidia driver from RPMFusion (as root): # /usr/sbin/nvidia-173xx-config-display disable # /sbin/chkconfig --level 35 nvidia-173xx off Reboot. I really hate going backwards. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox open containing folder
On 08/14/2009 06:45 AM, Tim wrote: On your desktop, or in a file browser, right-click on a folder, open the properties for it, and change the open-with preference to something more sensible. No can do. Under current F11 GNOME 2.26.3, when you open Properties on a Folder, there is no Open With... tab. There -is- the Open With context menu, but that doesn't let you change the default action for opening folders. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Why resize back ext3fs.img to bigger size.
Alexander Todorov wrote, On 08/15/2009 10:39 PM: Hi, in fs.py in ExtDiskMount.resparse() function we resize and truncate the image to minimum possible size (i.e. ext3 becomes 100% full) and then resize it back to the size specified in kickstart. In most cases this results in ext3fs.img which when mounted has lots of free space on it. Why is that ? Perhaps it is because unused space might contain old data which probably compresses badly. By doing it this way the extended space will be initialized with zeroes which can be compressed to (almost) nothing, and the compressed image of the specified size thus doesn't take up more space than if it had the minimal size. Why is that a problem? /Mads -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Why resize back ext3fs.img to bigger size.
On Sunday, August 16 2009, Mads Kiilerich said: Alexander Todorov wrote, On 08/15/2009 10:39 PM: Hi, in fs.py in ExtDiskMount.resparse() function we resize and truncate the image to minimum possible size (i.e. ext3 becomes 100% full) and then resize it back to the size specified in kickstart. In most cases this results in ext3fs.img which when mounted has lots of free space on it. Why is that ? Perhaps it is because unused space might contain old data which probably compresses badly. By doing it this way the extended space will be initialized with zeroes which can be compressed to (almost) nothing, and the compressed image of the specified size thus doesn't take up more space than if it had the minimal size. Correct. And by having the free space, we are able to let you write things to the filesystem when you're running the live image rather than having every write operation return -ENOSPC. We also keep around a snapshot of the minimal image so that we use the minimal image as the basis to copy over after an install from the live image (and then we resize that minimal image on the disk to the size of the partition you created) Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Fedora 12 release announcement
Hello all, Sorry not to continue the old thread about the F12 alpha announcement [1], but I'm new to this list, so I couldn't reply ;) As Paul suggested, I made a complete release announcement based on a template we used in the marketing group for F11. The release announcement is located on [2]. If you don't mind, I'd like you to use this flat URL instead of [3]...an inclusion in the F12 Alpha release notes also needs to be corrected. The content of the page should be pretty final, but I'd like you to have a look at it to add/remove features...I simply chose the ones I found interesting for *me*. Also please correct my English if you don't mind. 1: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-August/msg00100.html 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcement_for_F12_Alpha_Release Have a nice day Steven (Fedora Marketing) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Temporary FI platform
I'd definitely like to see the code for that somewhere though :-) Oops, and just a few seconds later, I discover https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-zikula/ with its git repo at git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-zikula.git. And if that wasn't enough, it's already in the infrastructure repo, so you can just yum install zikula-module-fedora-fasauth when you set it up on a publictest machine. I am responsible for zikula-fasauth (yes, I'm lurking on most Fedora lists). FasAuth does the following: When you attempt to login it: 1. Checks you are a valid user in FAS 2. Checks that you are a member of a select few groups (CRA, cms-admin I think) 3. If you've been already, you get logged in 4. If you haven't been, you get a zikula mirror-account created 5. From here you are logged in Your password and username will always be controlled by FAS, and you have a shell account on the Zikula system for Zikula's access control and basic functionality. Access control and permissioning is handled by the Zikula system (we agreed with docs this would be better than adding loads of groups to FAS). I also recommend having a fallback vanilla Zikula admin account on the instance, so that should for any reason FAS go down (maintenance, error etc) we can still admin the website. Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Broken dependencies: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader
perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader has broken dependencies in the development tree: On ppc: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) On x86_64: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) On i386: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) On ppc64: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader-0.04006-4.fc12.noarch requires perl(DBIX::Class) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Proposed F12 perl cleanups
Out of the thread on p5p, I'd like to propose the following changes for F-12: * Rename perl-core to perl * Rename perl to perl-minimal The biggest change here is that there are still packages which Require: perl, usually to specify a specific minimal version. Here is a list of rawhide packages which do this: abicheck-1.2-23.src.rpm acheck-0.5.1-3.fc12.src.rpm akmods-0.3.6-3.fc12.src.rpm amanda-2.6.0p2-12.fc12.src.rpm amavisd-new-2.6.2-4.fc12.src.rpm anjuta-2.27.3.0-2.fc12.src.rpm autoconf213-2.13-20.fc12.src.rpm autoconf-2.63-3.fc12.src.rpm automake-1.11-3.fc12.src.rpm automake15-1.5-27.src.rpm automake16-1.6.3-18.src.rpm automake17-1.7.9-13.src.rpm awstats-6.9-3.fc12.src.rpm bogofilter-1.2.0-2.fc12.src.rpm bontmia-0.14-5.fc12.src.rpm bugzilla-3.4.1-1.fc12.src.rpm calamaris-2.59-3.fc12.src.rpm cdrkit-1.1.9-9.fc12.src.rpm checkgmail-1.13-5.svn20080730.fc12.src.rpm clc-intercal-0-0.2.1._94._2.fc2.src.rpm clearsilver-0.10.5-7.fc12.src.rpm clusterssh-3.26-2.fc12.src.rpm condor-7.2.1-2.fc12.src.rpm conmux-0.0-9.493svn.fc12.src.rpm convmv-1.14-2.fc12.src.rpm cook-2.32-3.fc12.src.rpm crypto-utils-2.4.1-22.src.rpm cvsutils-0.2.5-3.fc12.src.rpm cvsweb-3.0.6-9.fc12.src.rpm cyrus-imapd-2.3.14-3.fc12.src.rpm dap-server-3.9.3-2.fc12.src.rpm dayplanner-0.10-2.fc12.src.rpm dbxml-perl-2.0040016-2.fc12.src.rpm ddclient-3.7.3-3.fc12.src.rpm dnssec-tools-1.5-3.fc12.src.rpm dvdrip-0.98.10-2.fc11.src.rpm eb-4.3.2-3.fc12.src.rpm eclipse-epic-0.6.35-2.fc12.src.rpm EekBoek-1.04.04-2.fc12.src.rpm emacs-23.1-1.fc12.src.rpm foomatic-4.0.2-4.fc12.src.rpm freenx-server-0.7.3-15.fc12.src.rpm fvwm-2.5.26-4.fc12.src.rpm git-1.6.4-1.fc12.src.rpm GraphicsMagick-1.3.6-2.fc12.src.rpm grepmail-5.3033-6.fc12.src.rpm gresolver-0.0.5-6.fc12.src.rpm GtkAda-2.10.2-2.fc11.src.rpm gtkpod-0.99.14-3.fc12.src.rpm hdrprep-0.1.2-6.fc12.src.rpm help2man-1.36.4-5.fc12.src.rpm httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm i2c-tools-3.0.2-4.fc12.src.rpm ifm-5.1-10.fc12.src.rpm ikiwiki-3.1415-2.fc12.src.rpm ImageMagick-6.5.4.7-3.fc12.src.rpm inn-2.5.0-4.fc12.src.rpm java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-29.fc12.src.rpm JSDoc-1.10.2-8.fc12.src.rpm kcbench-data-0.1-5.src.rpm kdelibs3-3.5.10-13.fc12.src.rpm kdesdk-4.3.0-1.fc12.src.rpm kdevelop-3.5.4-5.fc12.src.rpm ksplice-0.9.7-4.fc12.src.rpm lagan-2.0-6.fc12.src.rpm latex2html-2008-3.fc12.src.rpm lcdproc-0.5.3-3.fc12.src.rpm linuxdoc-tools-0.9.65-2.fc12.src.rpm llvm-2.5-3.fc12.src.rpm llvm-2.5-3.fc12.src.rpm lm_sensors-3.1.1-3.fc12.src.rpm mgetty-1.1.36-4.fc12.src.rpm mhonarc-2.6.16-7.fc12.src.rpm migrationtools-47-4.fc12.src.rpm mimedefang-2.67-2.fc12.src.rpm mirrormanager-1.2.11-2.fc12.src.rpm mod_perl-2.0.4-9.src.rpm mon-1.2.0-5.fc12.src.rpm mrtg-2.16.2-4.fc12.src.rpm mtd-utils-1.2.0-3.fc12.src.rpm munin-1.2.6-10.fc12.src.rpm mysqlreport-3.5-4.fc12.src.rpm mytop-1.6-4.fc12.src.rpm nagios-plugins-1.4.13-16.fc12.src.rpm namazu-2.0.19-3.fc12.src.rpm NaturalDocs-1.4-4.fc12.src.rpm netatalk-2.0.4-2.fc12.src.rpm netpbm-10.35.64-1.fc12.src.rpm net-snmp-5.4.2.1-14.fc12.src.rpm nginx-0.7.61-1.fc12.src.rpm openoffice.org-3.1.1-16.1.fc12.src.rpm openssl-0.9.8k-7.fc12.src.rpm parrot-1.4.0-8.fc12.src.rpm pdsh-2.18-3.fc12.src.rpm pem-0.7.7-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-accessors-1.01-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Acme-Damn-0.04-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Algorithm-CheckDigits-0.50-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-Algorithm-CurveFit-1.03-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Algorithm-Dependency-1.110-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Algorithm-FastPermute-0.999-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Alien-SeleniumRC-1.00-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Apache-DBI-Cache-0.08-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-App-Cmd-0.203-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-Array-Compare-1.17-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-asa-0.02-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Authen-Captcha-1.023-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Authen-DigestMD5-0.04-7.fc12.src.rpm perl-Authen-Krb5-1.7-7.fc12.src.rpm perl-Authen-Krb5-Admin-0.11-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-autobox-2.55-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-AutoXS-Header-1.02-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Best-0.12-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.08-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-B-Hooks-OP-Check-0.17-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-bioperl-run-1.6.1-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-boolean-0.20-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Boulder-1.30-7.fc12.src.rpm perl-BSD-Resource-1.29.03-1.fc12.src.rpm perl-Business-CreditCard-0.30-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-Business-Hours-0.09-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-B-Utils-0.07-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Cache-2.04-5.fc12.src.rpm perl-Cache-FastMmap-1.34-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Calendar-Simple-1.20-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-Capture-Tiny-0.05-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Carp-Assert-0.20-4.fc12.src.rpm perl-Catalyst-Plugin-CGI-Untaint-0.05-6.fc12.src.rpm perl-Catalyst-Plugin-StackTrace-0.10-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-CGI-Application-Plugin-Stream-2.10-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-CGI-FormBuilder-3.0501-7.fc12.src.rpm perl-CGI-Prototype-0.9053-7.fc12.src.rpm perl-CGI-Simple-1.108-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Chatbot-Eliza-1.04-6.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-Accessor-0.31-6.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-Adapter-1.05-3.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-Autouse-1.29-6.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-C3-XS-0.11-2.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-Date-1.1.9-6.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-DBI-3.0.17-5.fc12.src.rpm perl-Class-DBI-AsForm-2.42-9.fc12.src.rpm
Re: Proposed F12 perl cleanups
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Tom spot Callawaytcall...@redhat.com wrote: The biggest change here is that there are still packages which Require: perl, usually to specify a specific minimal version. Here is a list of rawhide packages which do this: [big snip] Many of those packages don't actually have an explicit Requires: perl. It's being added automatically when perl.req finds things like use 5.006. -- Iain. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
Re: Proposed F12 perl cleanups
* Tom spot Callaway [15/08/2009 22:24] : Out of the thread on p5p, I'd like to propose the following changes for F-12: * Rename perl-core to perl * Rename perl to perl-minimal Thoughts on this? +1 for your proposal. Emmanuel -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
