KPilot RIP
KPilot has been without a maintainer for a long time, and it has been decided to officially declare it dead, unless someone steps up to help. If you have a Palm device and would be interested in helping out, please contact the developer mailing list (kde-de...@kde.org). It's likely that someone could guide you through a bug-fix or two, before you commit to being maintainer, and your contribution would be sincerely welcomed. Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? I have had a reply from a developer. It seems that this is standard toolbar behaviour, and not part of kmail. It probably can't be changed. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 15:29:07 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Well if he had you wouldn't know about it would you? I know I've done it on occasion. There is a point to sometimes complaining publicly: keeping all complaints private sends the implicit message that no-one has a problem with the objectionable behaviour. It also makes it look as though the comment is aimed at one person, when usually it has built up over several messages. It would greatly help if people would remember that not all are fortunate enough to have unlimited cheap bandwidth. This is not merely a politeness, but a necessity for those people. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: again cannot play audio cd's
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 12:22:38 Joachim Backes wrote: As some months ago, it's no more possible to play audio cd's in the moment: looking in /var/log/messages, I found some lines: It might help if you said which app you are using to play them, and also whether you have made any changes with regard to pulseaudio. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 22:21:48 Rick Stevens wrote: Uh, doesn't ls show the mtime (modify time) by default? AIUI, reading a file is an access - in fact if you open a text file anywhere on your computer then close it without any change you will see the timestamp get updated. That does not mean it has been written to. So the file IS being written to in some manner, No, it does not mean that. even if the size isn't changing. If I were to change every occurrence of the digit 4 with 5 in a file and saved the modified version, the size wouldn't change but the mtime would. Irrelevant I think the OP said that it appeared that the current message number was being updated. A big message number (5 or 6 digits) would take a while to require a sixth or seventh digit, thereby changing the file size. The message numbers are not in that file, so his comment is an impossibility. This is all a bit off the point, though. kmail seems to work fine for most people (I'm a Thunderbird user myself, but I'm weird). This may be a case where a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: again cannot play audio cd's
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 16:08:51 Joachim Backes wrote: On 09/29/2009 04:42 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 September 2009 12:22:38 Joachim Backes wrote: As some months ago, it's no more possible to play audio cd's in the moment: looking in /var/log/messages, I found some lines: It might help if you said which app you are using to play them, and also whether you have made any changes with regard to pulseaudio. Anne Hi Anne, I don't believe that it's an application problem (failing with kscd and rhythmbox), I had this problem too in early summer. And I'm not the only one having such problems: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458036 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526229 That doesn't answer the question, though, does it? When I installed fedora I also couldn't play CDs. In my case it was necessary to change the phonon backend, after which I've had no problems. I've seen many other people complain about having no sound or having lost sound, but in their case they have removed pulseaudio expecting it to miraculously cure things. Sometimes it has fallen back to alsa cleanly. Sometimes it hasn't and they still have problems. If you want to solve a problem, not just whine about it, you have to be prepared to do some investigation and give more information so that people can help you. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Seamonkey composer
For a quick and dirty web page edit, such as adding a single date to a club calendar, I like seamonkey composer. At the moment I have to open the web browser then change to composer, which seems silly. I've added the relevant command to the manu. Can anyone tell me how to add composer to the krunner, or will it appear when I've called it a few times? Thanks Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Seamonkey composer
On Monday 28 September 2009 09:36:24 g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: For a quick and dirty web page edit, such as adding a single date to a club calendar, I like seamonkey composer. At the moment I have to open the web browser then change to composer, which seems silly. I've added the relevant command to the manu. Can anyone tell me how to add composer to the krunner, or will it appear when I've called it a few times? Thanks 'seamonkey --help' ?? Nope. This is more of a problem of understanding where krunner gets its info. I know that when desktop search gets fully implemented it will be picked up, and maybe it will even now, if I wait a bit. The actual command to run it is 'seamonkey-bin -edit' and I can do that in krunner, but it hasn't yet got the capability of offering me that command in completion mode. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui application you want to kill. If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:38:13 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne That also seems to be a no-op, it was, I cycled it, left it off clicked apply, but when I park the mouse over the next arrow, a tooltip will pop up in a short time, and which covers the left end of that messages subject line. I am rather not inclined to move .kde as that means I'd have to spend a couple of long days rebuilding the message sort filters among other things. I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, keeping everything kmail related in the kmailrc has led to several extensive, re-inventing the wheel by starting with the fuel injectors type rebuilds over the years. Thanks for trying, Anne. You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 17:36:13 Gene Heskett wrote: You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne No, it has always responded instantly to any changes I made previously. This isn't winderz, where installing a mouse driver take 4 reboots. :) And a restart or reboot will not change anything now as this has been this way for a couple of weeks. It was last restarted 4 days ago when I installed kernel 2.6.31.1. Who mentioned rebooting? I suggested restarting kmail, as many applications only read configurations when they start up. As it happens, though, that wasn't the answer, either. I'll try to find out. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Monday 28 September 2009 17:07:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui application you want to kill. If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of it. Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill I believe it is xkill. command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to. It's simplistic, yes, but generally it gets rid of those pesky situations where something has obviously got stuck in a loop. Very useful. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 18:05:11 Gene Heskett wrote: AFAIK, kmail updates that kmailrc file everytime it does _anything_, even clicking on the next message button updates it because it contains the current message numbers. The incoming mail function updates it similarly. All this is, to me, is a golden opportunity for any bug anyplace in the kmail -filesystem to eventually eat our respective lunches. Here, it is a bit over 131 kilobytes, and to expect a file to get data in the middle of it overwritten with random lengths of new data, and remain forever properly formatted and error free seems like tempting fate. It is now 12:58:30 and when I opened this message: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:51 kmailrc Now: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:56 kmailrc So incoming mail updated it, and that means it is a very high traffic file, and it has ALL of kmails eggs in it. IMO the data that needs updated frequently like that, really should be kept in a separate file. Take a copy of your kmailrc, then again after one of your 'changes' and diff them. Tell us what comes out. I don't believe you have actually studied your kmailrc. It does not contain messages at all. It contains your folder definitions, which may be what you are mistaking for messages. It does contain quite a lot of other information, all of it configuration. Unless you are a very strange user it does not get updated very frequently. You will notice that in the example you quoted, the file size did not alter at all. Maybe what you see is a timestamp of when the file was accessed for information? You also said earlier I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, . Why? One file does one job. In this case it defines all the norms for your folders, identities, accounts and mail transports. The reason your file is big (and mine is much bigger) is the number of identities and folders maintained. The kmailrc file is clearly broken up into labelled sections. There is no difficulty in seeing what each one does. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ksysguard doesn't show cpu or network
On Sunday 27 September 2009 05:58:17 Michael Eager wrote: Hi -- After a recent update, ksysguard no longer shows CPU or Network activity. When I check properties of these two windows, no sensors are listed. I'm running FC10, KDE 4.3. How do I add sensors to these displays? I could be wrong, but I don't think they have been added, yet. There are plasmoids that can be installed on the panel, taking up one icon-space, for each of them. There are also a couple of superkaramba plasmoids that give incredible amounts of information, but they are so big you probably need a separate desktop for them, and I'm not sure that you can confine them to one desktop without using the activity-per-desktop, which on some systems causes problems but works perfectly on others. As an experiment I ran the lappy widget and Automatik on a desktop, and the combined display took up 50% of the width. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ksysguard doesn't show cpu or network
On Sunday 27 September 2009 17:12:10 Michael Eager wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 05:58:17 Michael Eager wrote: Hi -- After a recent update, ksysguard no longer shows CPU or Network activity. When I check properties of these two windows, no sensors are listed. I'm running FC10, KDE 4.3. How do I add sensors to these displays? I could be wrong, but I don't think they have been added, yet. There are plasmoids that can be installed on the panel, taking up one icon-space, for each of them. They were there up to a couple days ago. I'm not sure what was updated, but they are gone now. I may have been mis-remembering something. I'm running 4.3.1, and see three activities there - CPU History, Memory and Swap History and Network History. There are also a couple of superkaramba plasmoids that give incredible amounts of information, but they are so big you probably need a separate desktop for them, and I'm not sure that you can confine them to one desktop without using the activity-per-desktop, which on some systems causes problems but works perfectly on others. As an experiment I ran the lappy widget and Automatik on a desktop, and the combined display took up 50% of the width. I've looked at the system monitor plasmoid, but I'm unimpressed. In the panel it's cute but not informative. The only one I'm using on the panel is that one, I think, which gives cpu temperature when you hover over it. On the desktop, it takes up a lot of space while giving little information. There are all the mis-features of plasmoids: I can't put the monitor on one desktop window -- it's on all windows. I can't iconify it and I can't click on bring it in front of other windows. As I said, you have to set the link of Activities to Desktop. You may want to give it a try - you can always switch it off if it gives you any problems. You zoom out, then look for the cashew (on my system it comes up on the top left) and Configure Plasma. I didn't find the lappy or Automatik widgets. They are superkaramba widgets. Lappy is in the default set. AutomatiK has to be downloaded. Since the kde system monitor seems to be broken, I'm using the Gnome system monitor. It's not as configurable as ksysguard, but it works. Neither of the superkaramba ones are configurable. They just give you everything they can find. Too much info for my laptop screen, in fact. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?
On Friday 25 September 2009 04:57:19 john wendel wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but how can a blank disk be mounted, since mounting requires a filesystem? Didn't he say that Nautilus mounted it *after* the burn? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote: Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work on Fedora 11? I had Verify written data checked: [...] Writing successfully completed. It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately. The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up. I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded. In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc. A disc icon appeared, too. k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here: --- Verifying written Data --- Verifying track 0 0% After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity, I cancelled it. Does this work flawlessly with KDE. Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop? K3B works flawlessly for me on some hardware, but not on others. It seems to have problems with some DVD writers, being unable to re-close the door in time for the verify to continue. The workaround, if your writer is one of those, is to change the setting that tells it to eject the disk on completion. You'll have to manually eject at the end, but that's a small price to pay. Meanwhile, for the one you've already burned you will have to resort to running md5sum (or other hash) yourself. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: k3b Data DVD writing with GNOME?
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:27:40 Michael Schwendt wrote: Does plain Data DVD file writing+verifying with k3b and GNOME still work on Fedora 11? I had Verify written data checked: [...] Writing successfully completed. It then ejected the disc and closed the tray again immediately. The infamous and premature No medium found dialog popped up. I didn't touch it, because it would close after a few seconds when it would recognise the disc it just had reloaded. In the background, a Nautilus opened for the recognised disc. A disc icon appeared, too. k3b, however, did not proceed to verifying any files. It waited here: --- Verifying written Data --- Verifying track 0 0% After 5 minutes waiting without any disc reader activity, I cancelled it. Does this work flawlessly with KDE. Is it a conflict with the default GNOME desktop? The other thing I should have mentioned is that if Nautilus mounted the drive, that would interfere. You need to deny the mount. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: lm_sensors is too old to work with a 2 year old asus motherboard , why?
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 05:01:35 Steven W. Orr wrote: On 09/21/09 14:56, quoth Anne Wilson: On Monday 21 September 2009 16:17:25 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I am trying to get usable data from an ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe motherboard. The existing lm_sensors install can't be removed due to dependency hell, but the tar.bz2 package looks as if it will install right over the rpm. I have not done that yet, but whats chances we could get the version 3.0.2 in the F10 repos replaced with the 3.1.1 from the lm_sensors site? LM_sensors has always had problems getting useful info out of Asus motherboards. Believe me, I first met the problem about 5-6 years ago. There is a text file comes with it that gives you as much info as it can about working with mobos from different vendors, but after trying everything I could I never got more than one sensor out of it. Works fine for my A8N-SLI Premium snip It's a couple of years since I tried it with an Asus motherboard, so things may have improved, or specific models may be better than others. As always, it's difficult to tell without actually buying one, by which time it's too late. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: lm_sensors is too old to work with a 2 year old asus motherboard, why?
On Monday 21 September 2009 16:17:25 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I am trying to get usable data from an ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe motherboard. The existing lm_sensors install can't be removed due to dependency hell, but the tar.bz2 package looks as if it will install right over the rpm. I have not done that yet, but whats chances we could get the version 3.0.2 in the F10 repos replaced with the 3.1.1 from the lm_sensors site? LM_sensors has always had problems getting useful info out of Asus motherboards. Believe me, I first met the problem about 5-6 years ago. There is a text file comes with it that gives you as much info as it can about working with mobos from different vendors, but after trying everything I could I never got more than one sensor out of it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netbook Opinion
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 19:59:50 Hiisi wrote: I agree about Fedora 11, I have it installed on my Asus EEEpc 1000HE and it is fantastic. I tweaked a few things (like font size, firefox/thunderbird themes) to make the display a little friendlier on the small screen. You would also want to install a flash blocker, I don’t remember the name of the firefox plugin, but it helps a lot for loading pages that have a lot of flash ads (which are hell on the atoms). --SNIP-- Adblock Plus its name. Moreover, I would suggest simply do not install flash-plugin at all. No flash - no problems. For some sites it's necessary, and using flashblock makes it easily controllable. Then you get unexpected problems, like that fact that I couldn't watch a cnn news report without whitelisting cnn in adblock! Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netbook Opinion
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:34:12 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 21:18 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What problems with Flash ?? Wow, that's good to know. So these things actually get killed on sites with heavy flash? That concerns me wrt to how much computational power they have. I realize they are atoms, but are that weak, or is the flash that bad:) I use NoScript to block Flash, but I can see Flash content if I want to. It doesn't seem slow on my EEE 1000. I use Adblock and Flashblock to control what I see, but I've not had any problems on the AAOne, either. (I'm typing on it right now.) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:40:09 Globe Trotter wrote: --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 7:20 AM On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37 Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux blocked network printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but it went on to say what needed allowing in SELinux to make it work. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Thanks, Anne. Where is this article? I had mis-remembered. What it actually said (page 10, if you have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns of multicasting. The 'comment' is a bit of a rant, saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there should be some way of alerting you to it. Btw, I went and disabled selinux using system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how to troubleshoot it. That rules out SELinux, then. If you haven't done so, check firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do that. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Amarok doesn't see all my music files [FOLLOWUP]
On Thursday 17 September 2009 14:05:16 Don Levey wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 September 2009 19:47:46 Don Levey wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: 1) Is it reproducible with individual albums? Can you copy all tracks of an affected album to a different location and reproduce the problem there? Yep - there seems to be something about the tracks, I guess. 2) Have you run amarokcollectionscanner in a terminal yet to see what output it gives for an album that is affected? Not yet; I'm about to... OK, I ran it. I tested on a directory in which I know I've had problems, (has two subdirectories, each with one album) and I see no error or differences between working and non-working tracks. I then went up one level to the entire collection, but there was too much information. I did see a run of invalid sample rate errors but these didn't reference a file. Does this make sense? -Don Don, if this turns out to be complicated, there is a dedicated list (not too high traffic, compared with this one) at https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok This was an excellent suggestion. It turns out that the solution was here: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2009-July/008876.html By simply 'touch'-ing the affected directories, the collection scanner picked up the missing tracks. All seems OK now, thanks! I've now added that to http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not detected
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 09:48:21 jaivuk wrote: Hello Fedora list, I installed F11 on Acer One and I have XFCE running and many times (9 out of 10) it happens that if I unplug the power cable from the netbook, it is not detected by the XFCE's power panel, it also shows battery status 100% even after longer time (40 minutes) without the power. On the other hand, display changes the brightness every time I plug/unplug the cable. Do you please have any hint how can I check if it is problem in the XFCE's panel or somewhere deeper (or even in my hardware)? It works correctly with kde, so probably xfce Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not detected
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 10:14:10 jaivuk wrote: Hello Anne, Do you use the same netbook? I think so - you meant the Acer Aspire One? That's mine. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not detected
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 13:08:02 jaivuk wrote: Yes, I mean Aspire One. I may try KDE, despite I found recommendation to use lightweight XFCE. Unfortunately Gnome is no-go as you cannot rename menus Applications... and it takes whole toolbar if you place it on the left side... I can't advise on how to do things in Gnome, but I use KDE on my AAOne. It's not the fastest desktop in creation, but it is perfectly usable. If you find things a bit slow you can disable desktop effects to speed it up. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Monday 14 September 2009 21:35:05 Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I am trying to discover network printers on F11: I fire up system-config-printer and ask for this to be searched but nothing is found. However, system-config-printer when run on ubuntu is able to find the printers without a hitch at all. What is the setting that is not set right on F11, and how do I fix it? According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: discovering network printers on F11
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37 Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: According to Linux Format this month, if you have SELinux running this is to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way to allow the broadcast through. Eh?? Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux blocked network printers. I haven't got it in front of me, but it went on to say what needed allowing in SELinux to make it work. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Monday 14 September 2009 03:05:02 Tim wrote: Tim: In what way did you do that marking? Adding packages, or setting some language preferences? Anne Wilson: Neither. By choosing English British at install, for language and keyboard, and by checking in system-config-languages. Nothing else at all. I have no other locales installed. I wonder if that merely sets the locale used by the install routine (rather like network settings set during install only pertain to settings used while installing). While that could be true (no idea whether it is), I would certainly expect that the setting shown in s-c-languages would be the one used. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
If you run a web server, read this
This appeared on the CentOS mailing list: quote Linked below are details about a new outbreak of hijacked linux web servers that dispense malware. http://blog.unmaskparasites.com/2009/09/11/dynamic-dns-and-botnet-of-zombie- web-servers/ I would highly recommend that you use nmap to scan all your Linux webservers that are connected to the Internet to see if they are listening on port 8080. The best I can tell, there are no articles concerning how these guys installed nginx or what is contained on a machine that has been compromised. But the best way to tell is to see if you are listening on port 8080 (if you are not supposed to be listening there). 8080 is a common port for java apps to be running on, so listening on 8080 is not always necessarily bad. Thanks, Johnny Hughes /quote Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Monday 14 September 2009 12:02:05 Tim wrote: I'm not sure, but changing that setting might require a log out and back in again. Actually, mine is now working correctly, from which I infer that logging out was not sufficient, but a reboot was needed. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Amarok doesn't see all my music files
On Monday 14 September 2009 19:47:46 Don Levey wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: 1) Is it reproducible with individual albums? Can you copy all tracks of an affected album to a different location and reproduce the problem there? Yep - there seems to be something about the tracks, I guess. 2) Have you run amarokcollectionscanner in a terminal yet to see what output it gives for an album that is affected? Not yet; I'm about to... OK, I ran it. I tested on a directory in which I know I've had problems, (has two subdirectories, each with one album) and I see no error or differences between working and non-working tracks. I then went up one level to the entire collection, but there was too much information. I did see a run of invalid sample rate errors but these didn't reference a file. Does this make sense? -Don Don, if this turns out to be complicated, there is a dedicated list (not too high traffic, compared with this one) at https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Sunday 13 September 2009 07:11:24 Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 16:28 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Can someone direct me how to set a system-wide UTF-8 locales? That's the default (using UTF-8 encoding for most, if not all, locales). What do you get if you type the locale command into a terminal? [...@suspishus ~]$ locale LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL= Hmm - on install I marked everything as English-British. system-config- language says that my language is English|-British, but the 'locale' command marks everything as en_US. Any ideas? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:27:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 13 September 2009 07:11:24 Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 16:28 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Can someone direct me how to set a system-wide UTF-8 locales? That's the default (using UTF-8 encoding for most, if not all, locales). What do you get if you type the locale command into a terminal? [...@suspishus ~]$ locale LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL= Hmm - on install I marked everything as English-British. system-config- language says that my language is English|-British, but the 'locale' command marks everything as en_US. Any ideas? Anne The only time I've ever seen that happen is when I've logged in from the console and language drop down box in the lower left was set to English (United States) and I failed to notice. Nothing like that. I don't have other locales installed, so I don't have the icon for changing them, and I've checked everything I can think of in KDE settings, not that I think they should affect this. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:57:58 Robert L Cochran wrote: Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and practices. Absolutely true. You can continue to have no consideration for those that offer help, and especially for those less fortunate than you who have either very slow connections or have capped downloads. You can continue to be any kind of ass you choose. When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the line you dictate to me, you illustrate what I'm getting at. No threat whatsoever. It's a promise. We are volunteers, and we can volunteer not to answer those people who cannot be polite and considerate. It takes people with many different views to make a good product. If I banned everyone from my workplace who doesn't think as I do, then I'd be standing in the building alone. With nothing to show for it. No concern of ours. Only behaviour on our lists concerns us. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:42:16 Ed Greshko wrote: Strange I assume that /etc/sysconfig/i18n has LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: UTF-8 Locale issue
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:40:42 Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Hmm - on install I marked everything as English-British. system-config-language says that my language is English|-British, but the 'locale' command marks everything as en_US. Any ideas? In what way did you do that marking? Adding packages, or setting some language preferences? Neither. By choosing English British at install, for language and keyboard, and by checking in system-config-languages. Nothing else at all. I have no other locales installed. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Automatic page numbering in OpenOffice
On Sunday 13 September 2009 16:49:08 Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 15:27 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 00:56 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: The only way to get automatic page numbering on every new document seems indeed to create a template this way I don't know why people sound so surprised at that. Since the default is not to do that, and the defaults are set by the default template, making a new default template (one way or another) is the way to change *your* default new documents setup. It's the same for any word processor. I'm not sure about 'any' word processor but it is that way in Microsoft Word and OOo tries to imitate MSWord in every way I gather to leverage the existing users knowledge. There used to be many choices for word processing but they have definitely dwindled. Well, I've used a few in my time - not including MSWord - and I can state categorically that if you want something to appear by default, you put it into your default template. Where else could it be? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system/admin menu
On Sunday 13 September 2009 17:05:19 Todd Zullinger wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Try launching the application from a root konsole. I think some sysadmin apps don't work properly from user menus. And if that's the case, it's surely a bug if a package installs a menu item that does not work for normal users. I'd file bugs for any such menu items. Maybe because sysadmins are not 'normal users'? If you are responsible and experienced enough to use a sysadmin application, you are experienced enough to know how to get to it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system/admin menu
On Saturday 12 September 2009 04:22:25 andy york wrote: I'm having a prob w/ system/admin menu.. about 1/2 the progs reply with The password you typed is invalid. Please try again. It does not prompt for a password. Some things work some things don't. I have no idea where to start troubleshooting this error. Try launching the application from a root konsole. I think some sysadmin apps don't work properly from user menus. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recuperating panel icons
On Thursday 10 September 2009 22:41:03 Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/9/10 gil...@altern.org: It sounds like you have lost your System Tray / Notification Area, not the icons. I don't know how to add it back to the KDE Panel, in Gnome it is right click on Panel, choose Add to Panel - Notification Area. Right-click on panel, Add Widgets, select System Tray and Task Manager. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: home/$user directory files
On Friday 11 September 2009 01:34:20 andy york wrote: I cannot see contents of home/user search hangs... any ideas on how to fix? Can however go to subdirectories using Places/Bookmarks. Search doesn't work either. So when did this start? Is it a new install? It sounds to me as though you no longer own that directory tree. Can you, in a konsole, run ls -l /home/youruser ? If so, paste a couple of lines from it here. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Solved] Re: Recuperating panel icons
On Friday 11 September 2009 03:33:57 gil...@altern.org wrote: I don't know how to add it back to the KDE Panel, in Gnome it is right click on Panel, choose Add to Panel - Notification Area. Solved. Thanks. Please, never end a thread this way. Always say how it was solved. At some future date someone will have the same problem and google for an answer. They'll find this thread in the archives. To follow a thread through and see that it is solved without giving the resolution is about as frustrating as it can get :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: home/$user directory files
On Friday 11 September 2009 14:46:48 andy york wrote: home/$user directory files problem is solved. It was a gvfs problem. [QUOTE=yuhuntero;1263178]- Backup the file vfs-fuse-daemon as vfs-fuse-daemon.bak - Make a new blank file vfs-fuse-daemon, and make it executable Because the vfs-fuse-daemon is call from the code, we could not do any setting to disable it. But we can cheat it as do above. As I know the vfs-fuse-daemon is only need in limitd cases.[/QUOTE] This worked like a charm. Had to do hard reboot however. Thanks again to all who helped solve this problem and to all those who tried. I really did not want to re-install to fix it. Andy - is it your thread on forum.kde.org, on the same subject? If so, please make sure that you close that with an equally full explanation. Thanks Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with alsa-PCM level in pulseaudio
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:00:32 Neil Bird wrote: Or `alsamixer -c0' on the command line. :) Well, that seemed to work, thanks! Seems a little bit naff that it's practically a hidden option, but then that still sort of extends to all of pulseaudio, really. Working OK now, though! It's not hidden, and has nothing to do with pulseaudio. It is, as it says, _alsa_mixer. If you run kmix you get the speaker icon, which in the past gave you the graphic display for alsamixer, though IMO the command-line one was always better. Now if you have the speaker icon it just shows the master channel by default with a button labelled Mixer. Hit that and you see alsamixer-gui. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't play audio CDs in F11.
On Monday 07 September 2009 18:08:53 Paul Erickson wrote: Let us be clear. The complaints about CDs not playing were in gnome but: audio CDs do not play in KDE either on the same machines and: All was well until the July updates. It is the updates that broke the system. In order to get yuutube, hulu, etc to work I had to remove alsa-pulseaudio rpm, which had been updates in early July. But this did not cure the audio CD problem. I am having the same problem with my 32 and 64 bit machines. I have not found a followup to this thread. Has anyone found a fix for it yet? Works for me - 32-bit. - and has done from 24 hours after I installed F11. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:02:33 Christoph Höger wrote: Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) This is nonsense. It may not be able to read your maildir files - due to your setup - but it can certainly read maildir mail. It does on my system, which uses maildir over imap. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Friday 04 September 2009 11:23:53 Christoph Höger wrote: Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 10:43 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:02:33 Christoph Höger wrote: Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) This is nonsense. It may not be able to read your maildir files - due to your setup - but it can certainly read maildir mail. It does on my system, which uses maildir over imap. Thunderbird has no support for maildir. That's it. You can of course proxy your mail through whatever protocol you want. But there is no support of maildir! There is no Maildir Mail btw. if you use IMAP it's IMAP and no Maildir is visible anymore. But that is way offtopic: The original problem is that you cannot use KMail to work on a Maildir without killing the whole maildir. This is my last word on this. You are talking utter nonsense. I do not use any kind of proxy and I do use both kmail and thunderbird with maildir mail over imap. Your 'Maildir' reference shows that you refuse to understand that the format and the directory are totally unrelated. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Friday 04 September 2009 13:25:48 Christoph Höger wrote: Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 12:27 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Friday 04 September 2009 11:23:53 Christoph Höger wrote: Am Freitag, den 04.09.2009, 10:43 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson: On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:02:33 Christoph Höger wrote: Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;) This is nonsense. It may not be able to read your maildir files - due to your setup - but it can certainly read maildir mail. It does on my system, which uses maildir over imap. Thunderbird has no support for maildir. That's it. You can of course proxy your mail through whatever protocol you want. But there is no support of maildir! There is no Maildir Mail btw. if you use IMAP it's IMAP and no Maildir is visible anymore. But that is way offtopic: The original problem is that you cannot use KMail to work on a Maildir without killing the whole maildir. This is my last word on this. You are talking utter nonsense. I do not use any kind of proxy and I do use both kmail and thunderbird with maildir mail over imap. You say it: OVER IMAP! YOU USE IT OVER IMAP! This is the whole point. Calling my statements nonsense is bullshit! I simply do not want to run an IMAP server on my notebook to allow kmail read my maildir! You do not need to. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Getting to grips with Plasma
If KDE 4 still feels strange to you, UserBase now has a treat in store. Hans (aka Mogger, on IRC) has created a whole set of short looping screencasts that show you exactly how to do all the common tasks associated with Plasma - covering desktop and panel widgets, extenders and activities. Each one lasts only a few seconds, but because it loops you have plenty of time to see exactly what is happening. Find them at http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/HowTo In case you didn't already know, there are already http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma #a general introduction http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ #now updated to 4.3 http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Plasmoids#a few of our favourite plasmoids. Why not add your favourites? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE! Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the maildir and akonadi? Are you using standard packages? I have three installations all running KDE 4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail. I have no such problem, so the question is, what is different about your install? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail. KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet. So IMAP is the only way... I'm still not sure just what Honza is actually doing. I suspect that he may be trying to use a mailbox set up by another client, in which case he will have to import his mail. We need a great deal more information before there is any possibility of helping him. I've been using KMail for 7 years, and not only have I never seen KMail eat mail, I've never seen anyone else experience it either. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet. So IMAP is the only way... Sorry, in the preceding mail I referred to Honza, when I meant I didn't understand what Christophe was actually doing. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Anne Wilsonan...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail. I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately. If it wasn't, there would be a way to set up KMail to directly use a Maildir placed somewhere in my $HOME and not copy or move any mail to its own storage. In the same way that, for example, mutt does. I tried to find how to do that, and failed miserably… I'm sorry, I simply don't understand this thread. Some time back - not as far as 2003, I think, Mandriva stored mail in ~/Mail - and kmail always worked with it. I have never seen any indication that KMail either copies or moves mail from its origin. The whole discussion is being made inpenetrable, too, by the use of a mail format name as a directory. Maildir is a format, as is mbox. What format of mail is this question about? Christoph seems to say that he is talking about the Maildir format. If he looks, for instance, at Inbox he will see no mail. If he looks at Inbox/cur his mail should be there. I use maildir format, with kmail, for my mail, and thunderbird has no difficulty finding it. I have never used mutt, but I suggest that it may well be looking in the wrong place. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmail eating my maildir???
On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421 That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail. I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately. I've just read the bug report again. It says that, due to the way kmail works, it is not possible to read mail in other agents. This is demonstrably false. Thunderbird and seamonkey have to problem whatsoever in reading the mail - I haven't used any others. The bug report replies did attempt to show some of the other issues that may be confusing the reporter. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Amarok Cover Manager Dead
On Tuesday 01 September 2009 05:13:40 rgheck wrote: I don't know when it started, but as of today, anyway, amarok's cover manager just doesn't work at all. No matter what I do, it won't find any covers. Has amazon changed the API again? Yes. A patch is being prepared to get the same functionality from last.fm, I believe. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to collect update report in FC11
On Tuesday 01 September 2009 17:16:23 Jatin K wrote: /var/log/yum.log (if you are using yum, of course...) Steven P. Ulrick Thank you very much ... I got it thnx again You may also like to look at running logwatch. It reports to root, daily, and software installed in that period is one of the areas watched. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
On Saturday 29 August 2009 22:29:03 Mike Cloaked wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites. Mikkel It would be really useful to have the link... I've not tried it yet, but someone told me to look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas#Boot - it looks as though their boothelper link will be what you need. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Sunday 30 August 2009 01:09:35 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: If you select Zoom Out from one of your NEW activities, your original desktop is NOT included amongst the desktops that are accessible from your pager. If you choose this option, your original desktop is NOT deleted. It just is not displayed in your pager. In fact, you can keep your new activities, and go back to using your old desktop if you choose, with no fear of losing your new activities... When you zoom out your Desktop 1 may not be visible. You should be able to drag the screen about, to see all the desktops you have, which makes it easy to get back to your original desktop. Even better - look at http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ#How_can_I_quickly_move_between_Activities.3F and follow the link to the how-to. This sets up a new panel, which can be short if you wish, and places to autohide, with one-click switching between Activities. I use this on my netbook, where space is a premium, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't always autohide at first login, but touch it and it does, after which it has no further problem. Yes, things are not perfect, but they are improving all the time. Keep an eye on Plasma pages in userbase. Some of the devs are keeping it pretty well up to date. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Sunday 30 August 2009 17:43:22 Michael Hennebry wrote: Since I installed F11, rather a lot of labels are black on dark gray or black on black. 'Tis quite annoying. That's controlled by the theme and many need compositing on to avoid this. Experiment with themes until you get one that's better for you if you can't use Desktop Effects. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 20:23:39 Gene Heskett wrote: For each desktop, right-click and select Add Widgets. Add the widgets relevant to the activity you intend for that desktop. The very terse wording makes it non-intuitive. And clicking on help gets me the advisory that it has not yet been written. I'm sorry, but I have no idea what it was you wanted help with. Remember that your desktops now act independently. You can have leisure- related widgets on a different desktop from your work-related ones. If that's not what you meant by 'plasmoid launcher', describe a bit more what you want. What I want is the same, semi transparent launcher to be available on all 8 screens. For that, it seems I should be able to edit an rc or conf file someplace, and just copy/paste that same stanza in the verses for the other 7 screens. I'm no wise with this, either. What exactly do you mean by semi-transparent launcher? I don't recognise the description. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 04:22:23 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:21:55 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. Anne Ah, yes, but in kde-4.3, we are still stuck with one wallpaper for all screens. That sucks about a 10-33 tor vacuum IMO. NO WE ARE NOT! Please!! I asked for a few hours sleep before searching for what was needed to enable it. It definitely works on my laptop. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 07:50:02 Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 04:22:23 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:21:55 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. Anne Ah, yes, but in kde-4.3, we are still stuck with one wallpaper for all screens. That sucks about a 10-33 tor vacuum IMO. NO WE ARE NOT! Please!! I asked for a few hours sleep before searching for what was needed to enable it. It definitely works on my laptop. OK - I get testy before breakfast. I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 08:22:06 Fennix wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hi Anne How to do this? If I right-click on the desktop and select Desktop Settings it appears that I can only choose one image for all desktops. This functionality of having an image for each desktop from KDE 3.x is the only thing that I (really!!!) miss in KDE 4.x. I really do think that KDE 4 is now much superiour to KDE 3 excepting the (perhaps minor issue for the KDE devs) of having multiple desktop images to match the prefered use/purpose for that desktop. No other element in KDE 4 makes me wish to regress back to the previous system (except the use of kyum which upon installation pulls in many elements from KDE 3...) Has kyum been ported to KDE 4? How to enable selecting an image for each desktop configured? /fennix PS: I think that it would be better stated that there are 2 issues for me: (1) Enabling selecting a unique image for each of my desktops. See my reply to Gene. I'll add it to UserBase today if no-one else has done it. (2) Installing kyum for upgrading my current Fedora installation without pulling in many elements/libraries of KDE3 to support this application. I know that I should post this to the KDE.org/brainstorm link you had posted previously...but I feel that if this is a majour issue then many must have already complained before now so if no-one has said much then these are not majour issues to the general KDE community... (Running KDE 4.3.00 currently...) /fennix Where are you finding kyum? Searching my repos doesn't find it. If you are installing a KDE 3 app it will have to call in KDE3 libraries - I don't see any way around that. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:09:33 Anne Wilson wrote: OK - I get testy before breakfast. I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_activities_.3F Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 10:53:56 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 07:50:02 Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 04:22:23 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:21:55 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. Anne Ah, yes, but in kde-4.3, we are still stuck with one wallpaper for all screens. That sucks about a 10-33 tor vacuum IMO. NO WE ARE NOT! Please!! I asked for a few hours sleep before searching for what was needed to enable it. It definitely works on my laptop. OK - I get testy before breakfast. I'd forgotten how I did it. You may remember that I said a long time ago that you could do it in Activities, but not in desktops. Now you combine the two. Use the desktop cashew to zoom out create an Activity for each desktop that you want - IOW 4 desktops = 4 Activities Configure each Activity with the wallpaper you want. Go back to your first Activity and zoom in - you are back where you started. Now go to each desktop, zoom out, set one Activity to use that desktop, zoom in. Do this for each desktop. Now you can use your desktops just as you always did, but each has settings that are independent of each other. Takes a few minutes to set up, but from then on it's as easy as it always was. Well, now I have a new problem. I have three desktops that each have a different image on the background. This is good. My fourth desktop also has a different image on it (again, this is good), BUT all the plasmoids have dissappeared from it! Actually, it is more like this: Desktop 1: All the plasmoids have dissappeared. Desktop 2: All the plasmoids remain on the desktop, but in different positions and different sizes. Desktop 3: one of the plasmoids has actually become the size of the entire desktop (with no way to resize it) and the other plasmoids are still there, and can be resized and moved around just like a normal plasmoid. Desktop 4: Same as Desktop 2 OK, I just discovered that one of the desktops had been changed to Folder View (That would have been Desktop 3) So, after changing that back to Desktop View, Desktops 2, 3 4 now have all the original plasmoids. Unfortunately, like mentioned above, they were randomly rearranged, and I will also have to resize them. Desktop 1 still is nothing but a blank image. All the plasmoids had dissappeared. Anyway, I need to get to work now :) They are now Activities, not simple Desktops. Before, plasmoids were on all desktops, but if you want your desktops for different purposes you probably neither need nor want all on every desktop. Activities are independent. On each desktop place the plasmoids that fit the kind of work you do on that desktop. :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:22:33 Gene Heskett wrote: If only there were zoom buttons for both directions, there doesn't appear to be a zoom in, only out to ever smaller muti-images, all the same pix until it crashes. Use the Magnifying glass with a + on it. Also, I sent another post with an easier way, but it never seems to have made it to the list (the same info did, in another list). What it said was: Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as_activities_.3F Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Friday 28 August 2009 19:49:32 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: Also, I sent another post with an easier way, but it never seems to have made it to the list (the same info did, in another list). What it said was: It did. Quicker way - and, I think, the way that I did it: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.3#How_can_I_use_virtual_desktops_as _ activities_.3F After messing with this, checking and unchecking and rechecking the options, I finally got it to show me a + in a magnifying glass icon, but only on the lower border of screen 0, the one I was on at the instant. This took it back to full screen per screen and I was able to set a different pix per screen then. You should have the magnifying glass under each Activity. Now I have the cashew in the upper right corner of only the first 7 screens of 8, and a plasmoid launcher only on screen 0. I've no idea why your cashew is missing - it's on every one here, although for some reason, one of them is quite faint, while the others are bright. How can I restore that plasmoid to the other 7 screens, and restore the cashew to the 8th screen? For each desktop, right-click and select Add Widgets. Add the widgets relevant to the activity you intend for that desktop. Remember that your desktops now act independently. You can have leisure- related widgets on a different desktop from your work-related ones. If that's not what you meant by 'plasmoid launcher', describe a bit more what you want. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 19:41:02 Todd Denniston wrote: Anne Wilson wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall. Anne Anne, If you are using NFS V2/3 instead of 4 (TCP) then the following might be as useful to you as it was to me. :) http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-3259 Hi, Todd. No, I'm using NFS4. I'm getting some off-list help, so it won't be immediate, but I have hopes of finding where the problem lies and dealing with it. Of course if you had time/inclination you would be using something other than the 1-10005 range where everyone will now be looking for your NFS, if they could only find a way to get past your router. :) :-) I'll bear that in mind, once I have the thing working. At the moment, with the firewall enabled, even I can't reach my home directory, so I'm not exactly worried about others doing so :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Thursday 27 August 2009 16:43:28 Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. This sounds like a dns problem. Right-click on the network icon in your system tray, and choose Edit Connection. You should then see your connection, probably (but not necessarily) as eth0. Highlight it and choose Edit. On the IPV4 tab you need an entry. In most cases you can simply give it the address of your adsl router or modem - often 192.168.1.1. What that does is tell your application to go through the router or modem and ask your ISP to resolve the addresses you give it. Let us know whether this solves it for you. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Thursday 27 August 2009 18:09:04 Brian Bentley wrote: I have ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop and installed fedora 11 on my desktop. I checked all my settings on fedora against ubuntu and they are the same. fedora says there is a connection but firefox says it is unable to locate the server and system update says problem connecting to software source. is there a command I can issue in the terminal that will allow internet access. I am not real famlar with terminal commands. Thanks Are you using a cabled or wireless connection? Do you let the modem/router tell your hardware what address to use? Info like this makes it easier for us to give you straightforward instructions. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:21:55 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:02:34 Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. Yes, you can now. I do have. I have Air on Desktop1 and blue-sun-m on Desktop 2. This wasn't available before KDE 4.3 as far as I know. Hello Anne I am running the KDE 4.3 that ships with Fedora 11. I do not see how to put different images on different virtual desktops. Any help is appreciated. Hmm - I just added extra desktops and set wallpapers from the desktop right- click menu, without a problem. I don't recall having to change anything else to allow this, but I'll ask around in the morning in case I've forgotten something. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 22:22:46 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I just ran yum update, logged out and logged back in. I was greeted with this: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg More specifically, some of the icons on my desktop had little red circles (with exclamation points in them) by them. At first I thought something (else) really weird happened and I had a whole bunch of broken symlinks. Then I clicked on one to see what happened. This is the result: http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg If I click Continue the application starts just fine, and the circle with the exclamation point goes away for that application. If for some reason, I decide to minimize the little prompt depicted in http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090825-Fedora11-ScreenShot-002.jpg the entire desktop gets dim (just like a window that does not have focus is set to do on our system) and the little dialog minimizes just fine. BUT, I have not been able to find a way to restore it after it has been minimized. For all intents and purposes, the desktop is locked up. I happen to have my desktop set to display a slide-show that changes pictures every 15 seconds. This continues to work properly. Pop-ups for newly received email work properly. But my ability to interact with my desktop and start new applications is completely and totally ended. The only way to get things back to normal is to do Ctrl | Alt | Backspace Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pulseaudio config problem.
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 23:51:03 stan wrote: No idea? It should be turned off. Run alsamixer -c 1 and use the arrow keys to go to the entries that have IEC958 in them. Use 0 to turn them off, and down arrow to lower volumes if necessary. Unless something has changed from the old alsamixer, 'M' mutes any channel. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 19:27:38 Bill Davidsen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall. For internal use the insecure option may be all you need. I export some things from various servers, attached is a little part of the process, a function to do the export by bind mounting directories into the /export space then exporting from there. That way any moves of the real location are hidden, clients always mount a short name. Note that this attachment has been cleansed a bit of addresses and comments, take as an example to test before use. Thanks, Bill. I'll study it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New feature after recent yum update
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11 system. It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...) I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in after the recent updates. All of them that I have seen so far I really like. This one I don't care for :) I can see why it could be a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of opting-in So my questions are as follows: 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things back to the way they were before the recent updates? 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new functionality, what is it's name? I will look for answers to these questions myself as well. Thank you for any help you can give me. Not much, I'm afraid. I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and never seen this behaviour. You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still running and causing a conflict? There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE. Hello Anne First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself have not even seen yet. That is well appreciated :) After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE. The result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this subject. The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot. That is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I clicked Continue If you can make a reasonably accurate guess as to what time you did this, can you please check your logs - see if anything there gives a clue? It's very strange. One cool difference that I see after the same set of updates the resulted in the issue referred to in this thread is the change in the desktop effect Wobbly Windows The wobble doesn't stop after the window is no longer being moved/resized. It continues to wobble for a few moments... Pretty cool :) Since my laptop has a 4-year-old ATi display card I don't have much joy with desktop effects :-) so I haven't seen that either. Anyway, I digress... Thanks again for your help so far, Haven't actually helped much, have I? Still, if you can find anything at all in the logs it would help us understand what happened. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Excluding two subdirectories in rsync
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 14:18:48 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have been using an rsync for Centos updates like: rsync -auv rsync://mirrors/updates/i386/ --delete --exclude=debug/ /repos/centos/updates/i386 But for Fedora 11, I see there is a drpms subdirectory that I ASSuME I don't need, drpms. How do I exclude two subdirectories? I can't figure it out from the man pages. --exclude=debug/ drpms/ ??? You need a skip-list file. Mine is called rsync_skiplist, and contains the following: *~ .[a-z]* .[A-Z]* lost+found/ recordings/ Temp/mydvd Directories are relational to the directory where your rsync script is, so in this case I'm skipping ~home/anne/recordings, for instance. Then, in your rsync script, simply insert into your command --exclude- from=/home/you/rsync_skiplist - adjusting path, of course. HTH Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Firewall and nfs mounts
What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? Thanks Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: K3b cannot create audio CD from flac or mp3 files
On Sunday 23 August 2009 12:25:39 Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 23 August 2009 10:36:50 wwp wrote: Hello there, I'm getting an error when attempting to create an audio CD from flac or mp3 files. K3b 1.0.5 (using KDE 3.5.10-13-fc10) within Fedora 10. Blank CD-R inserted and recognized, flac/mp3 files show correct permissions for user. The point is that the necessary plug-ins are loaded as seen in the K3b plugin configuration details (*) and that few weeks ago I was able to create such audio CD from flac or mp3 files.. The error when I click a flac or mp3 file: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project. (*): $ rpm -qa|grep -i k3b k3b-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386 k3b-libs-1.0.5-9.fc10.i386 k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i38 I have no clue about what was changed that could prevent this operation, maybe a yum update.. Any hint? Are you running k3b-1.66.0-2? If so, the k3b-extras package that matches it is not yet ready. Sorry - got distracted and didn't see your version. However, please check for k3b-extras Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On Saturday 22 August 2009 02:52:37 David Boles wrote: Ya know. That is odd. From Thunderbird I pulled up 'the' page and, never looking, sent it. Sorry. Same plugin from the same person. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543 Yup - there is something odd there. At one point I checked for extensions from Thunderbird, and found that it directed me to Firefox extensions. You wouldn't expect a mistake like that. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On Friday 21 August 2009 08:14:28 Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 Yes, both Thunderbird and Firefox have that effect on this laptop. I have to kill the processes immediately after using the application. firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 The odd thing is that they seem to hog the cpu much worse at that point then when they were actually in use. I do have enigmail installed, but this was happening before I installed it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
On Friday 21 August 2009 13:54:47 Mike Cloaked wrote: Mail Lists-3 wrote: Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64) I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well. Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ? thanks. gene I see the same and I am not running x64! Forgot to say, mine is not x64 either. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selecting Image for Icons in F11
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 21:23:02 Jim wrote: F11/KDE-4.3 How do you select a Image for a Icon in KDE-4.3 ? Like in KDE-3.5 where you could go into Properties and click on Icon to select a Icon Image . Like the Image for /home the little house. Exactly the same as in 3.5. Properties, click on the existing icon, change it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IRC tool question
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 23:44:16 Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; most of my clients use IM to communicate realtime, however I have one who uses their own IRC server. Is there a way I can setup KDE or a specific IRC chat tool to alert me with a desktop popup message whenever my name is used in an irc room? Currently I'm using Konversation and I have it set to watch for my username but I'm not getting any alerts This was answered on the KDE list, to which you also posted. Watch is not the correct place to set this. You need to configure notifications, from which you can set a sound and/or flash the taskbar. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installation of fedora 11
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 17:28:49 Tim wrote: Is your computer set up to boot from the DVD/CD drive, before trying to boot from the hard drive. Very early on in the bootup you should have a splash screen referring to your motherboard. At the bottom there should be an instruction on how to get to the BIOS - it's often called Setup. Once you get there there should be a screen for boot options. You have to make sure that CD is at the top of the list (it normally doesn't say DVD). Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hplip
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 19:25:47 Patrick Dupre wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Rick Stevens wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages ! I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8 lpr doesn't grock postscript. You need to feed the file through something like ghostscript first: gs -sOutputFile=%pipe%lpr name-of-file.ps Unfortunately, it is exactly the same. The print test page is OK, but using gs always gives me a blank page Many web pages seem to be impossible to print correctly. I've struggled with this for years. Now when that happens I 'print to file' as a pdf, then do my print from the pdf file. Not ideal, but it works. The change to qt print system may be a factor, but I've seen this in firefox (only for some sites) long before kde4 came on the scene. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How Extract The Fedorecore iso cd
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 14:38:46 Aaron Konstam wrote: This is a Fedora List. Why inwstall iso files onto cDs and DVDs using Windows tools. How else do you get a first install? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Panorama photos
On Monday 17 August 2009 02:11:45 amit rp wrote: since Canon Camera software is not compatible with Fedora10 686i, for attaching two or more photoes to make Panorama; what should I do? Please, if replying from a digest, remember to change the subject line. Thanks for trimming, though. Look into hugin which I believe is software specifically for joining photos to create panorama pics. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installation of fedora 11
On Monday 17 August 2009 16:36:19 shreyas m wrote: HI actually i downloaded the fedora 11 from the internet and wrote it in a bootable disc.now when I try to boot using the disc,CALDERA DOS opens up in the begining itself and i'm not able to proceed further. please may i get the help about how top proceed further Are you certain that you burned an image, not a copy of the disk? When you look at the disk either in windows or on another linux computer, do you see one large file or a complete file structure? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
On Saturday 15 August 2009 23:54:42 dariusz rojewski wrote: 2009/8/15 Fennix cn.ste...@gmail.com On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:33 AM, dariusz rojewski dar...@pld- linux.orgwrote: [...] You could try installing gst-mixer (yum install gst-mixer) and verify the settings there. For Fedora 10 from initial install until recently in Fedora 11 I was having no-end of trouble with Intel sound. I saw a message here where someone suggested installing this program and and running it I found my pcm settings set to 0 (though my alsa and pulse audio controls always showed that my pcm channel was set to 100%). I am not sure why I could not solve this with the existing pre-installed tools but you could try this... Best of luck, Fennix Thanks, but i've already tried it. pcm is set to 100%. Maybe totally unrelated, but since my soundcard is Intel ICH6 there could be some correlation. When I installed F11 (KDE desktop) no sound apps were working. I tried some Gnome apps, and some of them did work. It turned out to be a matter of which audio backend different applications need. I don't know where you set it in Gnome, but in KDE it's in systemsettings Multimedia Backend tab. On this laptop it was set to xine and changing it to gstreamer got things working again. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Acer netbooks
On Sunday 16 August 2009 05:11:48 Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 08/15/2009 09:27 PM, Ed Landaveri wrote: Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I've installed F11 on a Acer Aspire One (Atom, XP edition) and it's running fine. I bought the linux edition of the AAOne, wiped it and installed F11. Everything's fine. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Acer netbooks
On Sunday 16 August 2009 09:47:48 roland wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:11:48 +0200, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 08/15/2009 09:27 PM, Ed Landaveri wrote: Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I've installed F11 on a Acer Aspire One (Atom, XP edition) and it's running fine. I have an acer one as well, and I tried to install F11 from an USB DVD player, WITHOUT success. It doesn't even start the installation. Can you tell me how you did this? IIRC you have to go to F12 very quickly on boot (haven't got it in front of me, so I can't check Fx) to get the usb player bootable. After that it's a perfectly normal install. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11 [Partially Solved]
On Saturday 15 August 2009 19:58:00 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: On 08/15/2009 01:39 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 15 August 2009 16:33:40 Steven F. LeBrun wrote: One thing that does bother me about my ~/.local/share/applications-bad directory is that multiple desktop configuration files exist for the same applications. The worst case appears to be for Audacious; there are seven different desktop configuration files for it. Glad you're getting nearer. I'm curious about this ^^ statement. Can you look inside some of those files? Do they look as though they actually are all for Audacious, or whether something else went wrong, like a corrupted index, that might cause them to be mis-named? Are there many applications that have these duplicated file? And are they applications that were in use (or being launched) at the time of corruption? Anne It appears that I am getting different results with different programs when I look at my application-bad directory. When I use Nautilus, the default app used when opening my home directory, it lists multiple files with the same application name, in this example Audacious. These file names do not include an extension and their type is listed as desktop configuration file. When I use Emacs to display the same directory, each file has a unique file name. Grepping the directory yielded this list: grep -nH -e Audacious *.* alacarte-made-37.desktop:9:Name=Audacious alacarte-made-37.desktop:10:Name[en_US]=Audacious fedora-audacious.desktop:12:Name=Audacious fedora-audacious-plugins.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-aac.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-alac.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-mp3.desktop:10:Name=Audacious livna-audacious-wma.desktop:10:Name=Audacious snip Fascinating as I find this, I confess that I don't have the skills to help solve it. Are there dedicated Gnome lists where people who understand the depths of nautilus could take a look? Or maybe even ask the nautilus developer direct for assistance? It certainly looks like a situation that you couldn't expect the file manager to handle. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Acer netbooks
On Sunday 16 August 2009 12:32:16 roland wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:45:40 +0200, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 09:47:48 roland wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:11:48 +0200, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 08/15/2009 09:27 PM, Ed Landaveri wrote: Please, is anyone running Fedora on any ACER netbook? If so can you recommend a model? I've installed F11 on a Acer Aspire One (Atom, XP edition) and it's running fine. I have an acer one as well, and I tried to install F11 from an USB DVD player, WITHOUT success. It doesn't even start the installation. Can you tell me how you did this? IIRC you have to go to F12 very quickly on boot (haven't got it in front of me, so I can't check Fx) to get the usb player bootable. After that it's a perfectly normal install. Strange, I did this and the installation stopped in the beginning. http://catbe.dyndns.org/fotos/acer_aspire_one.jpg shows you the picture of the screen. It says 'you may safely reboot your system' - did it leave you with a good running system, presumably your old one? What could be the difference? Dunno. Two things come to mind - a different model of USB dvd-player (don't know whether a hardware problem there is possible), or a different chipset somewhere in the hardware even though it claims to be the same model. Did you have a thread anywhere with a subject of failed install, and include that screenshot? I know there have been some install problems with some hardware, but haven't been following those threads. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
