Re: Best way to get minimal system
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:11 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: My solution to installs for little machines is a box I got from Newegg, has a USB connector and PATA inside for old drives (SATA available as well), and I install on a real computer with lots of resources, even if I'm running on next to nothing. To transplant the drive to another computer? I've done that, but you have to beware that you can install a system that won't work (without some fiddling) on another computer. I've been lucky that there was only a minimum of fiddling required, but it's possible to create a system that can't read the hard drive, and you need to know how to rebuild the initrd to resolve it. I'm reminded that I built a disk image of the proper size on a KVM virtual machine, and then used the adaptor and dd to do the install, with seek time issues minimized by a pure sequential write. THat was KVM from cli, I have no idea if you could do that from any of the GUI tools. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Audio
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:33:28PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I would love to just use one system for sound and let other systems send audio to it. Is network audio a reasonable solution? Suggestions if not? Assume having multiple systems using the same server is not an issue, coordination is possible, overlap is acceptable. I do this in my home office with PulseAudio's network capabilities. Works like a champ. Would you have a link to some cookbook documentation? Google is more successful and less discriminating than I like. And could I put this on the KVM host and then have all the VMs speak network audio to it? That would be useful. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problem with ssh identies
I am using the command= feature heavily as part of a backup system, which allows me to run commands on a remote server without allowing general function. I give the public key for a functionality to the server, add to authorized_keys, and can closely control the users. The key is chosen by use of the -i option to ssh. All of this has been working nicely for several years. However, it seems that ssh offers the default key *first* to the server, rather than the one specified on the command line. That's so bizarre I spent time checking that it really happened before asking here. So the question is, how can I get ssh to offer the key I give it in the command line first? Preferably as the only key offered, actually, but definitely before the default key, which on several machines drops me into another application. Is there some clever means or option I missed? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. Did the post explaining why this is happening (mail server move) get lost, or did you just not read / understand it? Read the message explaining in painful detail how/why and what you might have to do to make your mail filters allow mail form the list. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ati drivers f12
François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 07/01/2010 15:17, Joonas Sarajärvi a écrit : Fedora has never included fglrx (a.k.a. Catalyst), but it has usually been available in 3rd party repositories, like RPM Fusion non-free. AFAIK recent fglrx/Catalyst versions do not support any of the X1200 cards anymore. Fedora 12's default driver should have hw opengl support and other goodies for it, out of the box. OK thanks for the info but running glxgears gives an averave of 200FPS, is it the maximun ? Another problem: X cannot resume after suspend. Is there a special config to have suspend available with this default driver? The FC12 drivers suck^H^H^H^Hhave problems. The solution is to use the vesa driver, which is much faster on my ATI machine (2xlaptops, 2xdesktops). Also doesn't crash. Old ATI has been desupported in the renamed fglrx drivers, and the stock and other driver available from rpmfusion work no better on my machines. However, this should get you about 5x faster gears and most other things, and not crash. On the boot command line put: nomodeset vga=0x318 video=vesafb xdriver=vesa The machine I ran the speed tests is down (in the library), but it was a huge speed difference. Try it, let us know if it gets you going. Note: 2.6.32.x was even worse on my machines, the release 2.6.31.9 kernel lost my Synaptics touch pad on both laptops. Search my bugs on bugzilla for more info, there are a bunch, as well as several dozen filed with kerneloops.org. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any linux-based microSD utilities?
Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, I have a Kingston 4GB microSD card in my cellphone. I use a microSD USB reader to move files to and from the card (pdfs, mp3s, etc). I tend to move it between phones and computers a fair amount. It seems that the card has failed and does not auto-mount properly on either my desktop or laptop, both of which run F12, or on my phone now. However, reviewing /var/log/messages I see that the relevant daemons sense the card and create a block device (/dev/sdb or /dev/sdc depending on the machine) when I use the USB reader and insert it into a USB port. However, the device doesn't automount, nor can I mount it from root. If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can. Can the card be made useable again through some sort of formatting utility? Any guidance would be appreciated. Start by using fdisk -l /dev/XXX from command line, where XXX is the sd device. If you are lucky there will still be a partition /dev/XXX1/ which you can try to recover (and can dd it into a disk file for more future trials). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:28:55AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system? What do you mean by minimal? If you mean just the base system kernel, libraries, and yum and its dependencies, and you don't want to use kickstart to do it, you can get a reasonable facsimile by installing from the netinstall ISO and deselecting every package group. You need to do this with the Customize selection option, rather than simply turning off the small number of extra capabilities shown on the general users screen. If you leave something selected behind the scenes, its dependencies will bring in a lot of non-minimal stuff. The result is about 200 packages (a few hundred MB, depending on how you count exactly) installed, and a text/CLI only system. You'll need to configure the network with system-config-network (since there's no NetworkManager available) and then you can go to town. :-) I think I remember a click box for minimal system install, which was a good idea for this. Suggestion: This would be a great option to have at the start of a custom installation, to uncheck everything for the user, who could then install the minimal things needed from there. In other words, it would be a starting point, not this is all I want option. On servers it is sometimes useful to have a few X applications to be run to a server on remote machines withut a local server and the tom of cruft that entails. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Best way to get minimal system
Andre Robatino wrote: Chris Smart wrote: Also explains why the PPC machine did a text only install - it couldn't start the graphical installer. The minimum RAM for a GUI install was increased from 192 MB to 384 MB for F12. My solution to installs for little machines is a box I got from Newegg, has a USB connector and PATA inside for old drives (SATA available as well), and I install on a real computer with lots of resources, even if I'm running on next to nothing. I'm also playing with a thing called TinyME distribution, in my hypothetical spare time. http://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2009-July/msg00146.html -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit?
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 05/01/10 11:06, Andrew Haley wrote: On 01/05/2010 10:54 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: -- Start Rootkit Hunter Scan -- Warning: Network TCP port 47107 is being used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird-3.0/thunderbird-bin. Possible rootkit: T0rn Use the 'lsof -i' or 'netstat -an' command to check this. Results of lsof -i' and 'netstat -an' http://fpaste.org/xOOO/ Port 47107 isn't being used any more. This was just TCP using a random unreserved port. Andrew. Basically ignore this in future, with that port? Absolutely not! If you ever get it again check it again. Learn how to do that, lsof is not rocket science. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: i686 packages in my Fedora 12 x86_64
Germán A. Racca wrote: Hi all: I have freshly installed Fedora 12 x86_64 in my PC 2 weeks ago. Now I see that I have some (49) packages in both i686 and x86_64 architectures. The list is at the end of the message. What should I do? The libraries are what you would get if you installed a 32 bit package and it pulled in dependencies. If you installed something which runs a lot of the commands you saw by execv (in some languages shell or system procedure) then they may have been pulled in the same way. Unless you have some misbehavior I would do nothing if it were my system. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Network Audio
I would love to just use one system for sound and let other systems send audio to it. Is network audio a reasonable solution? Suggestions if not? Assume having multiple systems using the same server is not an issue, coordination is possible, overlap is acceptable. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
john wendel wrote: On 12/31/2009 12:14 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: On 12/31/2009 09:10 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: And leaves you with no Fedora patches and the disk performance regression issues of 2.6.32. Also a tainted kernel which some developers will ignore if you get a trace, etc. I thought it's only tainted if there are non-GPL modules compiled in. For instance, I saw the tainted message whenever I insmod'ed fglrx driver You're right, I am assuming he was talking about the nvidia modules which are not GPL, when he mentioned 2.6.32.2+Nvidia. So it would only me tainted if he wanted to have graphics. Or the licensing may have changed, things are not the same for long. Who needs the Fedora patches? I'm not missing them here. Can you tell me exactly the patches I'm missing and what they would do for me? If these patches are so valuable, why aren't they submitted upstream so the world can benefit. Maybe because Linus doesn't want them? I haven't noticed any disk performance regression/problem. Maybe I don't beat it hard enough. hdparm -Tt shows 60.84 MB/s with the fedora kernel and 61.09 MB/s with my kernel. I know there's a CFS throughput problem, but that's easily fixed. You probably won't see a problem with random access using the hdpart sequential access test ;-) But there's a thread in LKML something like 30% regression in random throughput and depending on what you do you will really see that. My Fedora kernel would also be tainted, since I have to run the Nvidia driver in any case. I don't see any down side to running my own kernel. Plus I save 8MB of kernel memory (enough to negate the bloated Nvidia driver), and I enjoy the tweaking. I was mentioning 2.6.32 particularly, not building kernels in general. I built that to try the new video drivers (lock up and run 3x slower than vesa for me), and BFS (guess I don't trigger anything that shows its advantages, if any). But I don't bother to build daily kernels unless there a good reason. Been there done that, ran -ck, -aa, -mm, and -ac kernels, built 2.5 kernels daily, 3-4/day when CFS patches were coming out a lot, and unless I have a patch to test I leave it to others. Best wishes in the new year! John -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did my penguins go? - THAT'S LIFE
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:15 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Sam Varshavchik wrote: g writes: Richard Shaw wrote: Many thanks to all, but after trying all of the suggested VESA alternatives I've concluded that the nouveau driver sans penguins is vastly superior. Setting vga=0x37d for a starting text screen with a 1920x1200x32 resolution displayed the four penguins, but when startup switched to graphical mode the screen went solid black. Using the vesafb driver fixed that, but the result is S-L-O-W. If your LCD display is like most of mine, it takes a moment to change mode when the scan rate changes. The penguins come up early, it's possible that the display misses them. Note, I'm throwing that out for discussion, not stating it as a fact. The nouveau driver is a big improvement over nv, but it apparently lacks the ability to display core penguins after the startmenu. As I speculated in my original post, this seems to be an artifact of the nouveau driver. Considering the alternatives, I can accept that. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: -ck with Fedora?
Dave Stevens wrote: Does anyone have experience to report in using the new -ck kernel patches? Dave, I assumed that you meant the BFS scheduler patch, there's a recent one for 2.6.32. I ran that kernel in test, but because the video drivers are getting farther from functional on my machines, and the regression for random i/o (see LKML) I have gone back to Fedora kernel for now. The new 2.6.32 BFS patch is at http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/2.6.32-sched-bfs-311.patch -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
john wendel wrote: On 12/30/2009 06:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month... My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they enhance the video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let the developers have the holiday off, and hopefully they will have run 2.6.32 on their laptops and be motivated to work on it. A new year is coming. F11 with kernel.org 2.6.32.2 + Nvidia driver working fine here. You really should learn to build a kernel from sources, once you get the config file done, the rest is easy. And leaves you with no Fedora patches and the disk performance regression issues of 2.6.32. Also a tainted kernel which some developers will ignore if you get a trace, etc. And the last time I looked there was no ATI patch for 2.6.32.2 unless I missed it. Building from source means it will compile, not that it will work. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did my penguins go?
Sam Varshavchik wrote: g writes: Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to put 0x on the front of whichever mode you choose. either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed. 0x is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as being a decimal value. some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are: colors bits 640x480 800×600 1024×768 1152×864 1280×1024 1600×1200 2568 vga=769 vga=771 vga=773 vga=353 vga=775vga=796 32K0vga=784 vga=787 vga=790 vga=354 vga=793vga=797 65K0 16 vga=785 vga=788 vga=791 vga=355 vga=794vga=798 16M7 24 vga=786 vga=789 vga=792 vga=795 vga=799 Maybe, maybe not. I have several laptops here. Each one produces a different list of possible VGA modes. Your actual VGA modes depend solely on your video BIOS. I looked, and I was unable to find any way to obtain a list of supported video modes from userspace. The boot time prompt is the only time yu see them. True, I guess, but I have never found on which didn't support 0x305, 0x303, or 0x301, 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 at 8 bit. You only need to get it up, the X vesa driver will let you tune it after. Note, I'm not advising against vga=ask but there are a few modes which work widely if you know your vertical resolution limit. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
Konstantin Svist wrote: On 12/31/2009 09:10 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: And leaves you with no Fedora patches and the disk performance regression issues of 2.6.32. Also a tainted kernel which some developers will ignore if you get a trace, etc. I thought it's only tainted if there are non-GPL modules compiled in. For instance, I saw the tainted message whenever I insmod'ed fglrx driver You're right, I am assuming he was talking about the nvidia modules which are not GPL, when he mentioned 2.6.32.2+Nvidia. So it would only me tainted if he wanted to have graphics. Or the licensing may have changed, things are not the same for long. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 20:58 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how? I guess I don't know enough about Win7 to know why this is funny. One could always reboot to runlevel 1 and change back even the root passwd. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tips/6752/1/ That didn't work at one time, level 1 in inittab called sulogin and prevented the problem. Seems to have been lost going to all the rc.CRAP used currently, I'm looking at fixing this, although my laptops are encrypted anyway. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora
Randy Yates wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges. The banned topic list does seem to be whatever those people don't want to talk about, beyond that I'd say that there are stupendously dumb questions in that group, and those folks do try to help. If you persist in talking about topics they want to avoid they will kick you. Never seen anyone banned, but how would I know? I don't recall seeing your name there, but I only drop in when I'm on another tech chat and want to see if I can catch some hints in passing. Go start your own group, fedora-banned and talk about whatever you want. And if that's the bad mouth you put on people who spend a lot of time helping others, particularly newbies, I see why you get banned, probably didn't take the hint the first time you got kicked. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't burn DVDs
Konstantin Svist wrote:
I just tried burning a DVD (authored by DeVeDe) and both K3b and
GnomeBaker fail to start writing. Clean boot doesn't help, neither does
lowering the write speed to 4x.
Anyone else having this problem?
That's because the message says device not ready and no change in parameters
will make it work until you address that. Bad media, bad cable, bad burner, I
can't tell. It's likely to be hardware, but I don't normally use the frontends
for the tools, so you may have made a mistake in starting the run.
kernel:
2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686
dmesg:
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range
end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
...
warning: `growisofs' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:80/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 dma 32768 out
cdb 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
res 40/00:02:00:18:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
ata2.00: status: { DRDY }
ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
ata2: soft resetting link
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata2: EH complete
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Re: Where did my penguins go?
g wrote: Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to put 0x on the front of whichever mode you choose. either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed. 0x is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as being a decimal value. It's not *quite* that simple, that the way it works on the command line passed to the kernel. However, if you use VGA=ask, those numbers are hex and 0x is neither needed nor accepted.Ste 300 some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are: colors bits 640x480 800×600 1024×768 1152×864 1280×1024 1600×1200 2568 vga=769 vga=771 vga=773 vga=353 vga=775vga=796 32K0vga=784 vga=787 vga=790 vga=354 vga=793vga=797 65K0 16 vga=785 vga=788 vga=791 vga=355 vga=794vga=798 16M7 24 vga=786 vga=789 vga=792 vga=795 vga=799 this page has charts for passing hex values with a few decimal thrown in; http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes if you have kernel source package installed, you should find info in; /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt In addition, with recent kernels, you have to start doing anything interesting with nomodeset before you can use vga= or it's useful friends video= and xdriver= Example of everything all at once, use vesa and see penguins: nomodeset vga=0x318 video=vesafb xdriver=vesa This allows you to use alternate framebuffer and X drivers, and trade the high performance and low reliability of some modern kernel drivers for the slow stability of vesa. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today
Jim wrote: I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all the passwords and they couldn't into them. I just had to say to her , Thank God for Linux and Super User password. Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how? I guess I don't know enough about Win7 to know why this is funny. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month... My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they enhance the video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let the developers have the holiday off, and hopefully they will have run 2.6.32 on their laptops and be motivated to work on it. A new year is coming. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: -ck with Fedora?
Dave Stevens wrote: Does anyone have experience to report in using the new -ck kernel patches? Have not tried them against Fedora kernel, the kernel.org kernel seemed stable. Wasn't that exciting, so I just booted and ran for an hour or so. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED
BeartoothHOS wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: [...] What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me. On the first tab (Settings), it tells me I have a setting of 1280x1024 (offering only smaller others), and millions of colors; on the second (Hardware), it acknowledges what I think I told it -- that I have an LCD panel 1680x1050. (Iirc, it had supposed I had a CRT; at least one machine did.) What I have been doing is use the admin-display to get the display type right, check the video card (never had to change it), and then I could set size in the system-prefderences-hardware-screenResolution. If that sequence doesn't show the large sizes I have no other tricks (and haven't needed them to date). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED
BeartoothHOS wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:22 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: the the Preferences-Display to set the resolution. Failing in this use system-config-display --xorg to create a new file, then edit that. Only needed to do that on one machine. I got an error message denying the existence of --xorg Wow, did I misremember that one. The method is Xorg -configure and must be run as root. I make no claim to be an expert, I just have learned not to shoot myself in the foot. Between your post and Tom Horsley's, I happened to think of changing the driver -- and did, from nv to vesa. I don't now recall exactly what all else I did, but I do remember an oddity. At one point, I tried again to edit xorg.conf, and got a message saying it didn't exist. I ran system-config-display instead to create one -- and it did, with vesa instead of nv. After all that, I can still only set the display up to 1280x1024, not 1680x1050 (which this machine, I'm sure, did support before). But that's within the monitor's own ability to adapt to. What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
paul van der meij wrote: I assume you are working under gnome. Just right click with the cursor in on of the workspace icons, on the panel bar on the right. select preferences and you can change the number of virtual workspaces and other things. I assume you intended that as a reply to the O.P. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?
Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 20:08 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Also does differences, so you can print not only the birthday of kids but their age this year, anniversaries, last friday in the quarter, Easter, whatever. Just once, or maybe every time, I'd like to see a calendar NOT ask me a year to go with a birthday. Quite often I don't know the year, and I never will, but I have to type something in before it'll let me enter a birthday reminder, so you end up with reminders with silly ages. Remind allows a month/day without year, although obviously you don't set the message to calculate the age for you... REM Jul 24 MSG Jan's birthday -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Broadcom BCM4312 not working after updating the kernel
Jatin K wrote: Dear all I've recently updated my kernel from *Linux 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 *to *Linux 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64*, after that my wireless Brodcom BCM4312 is not working , on old kernel it was working fine ... if I boot into old kernel it works fine without any problem Does anyone faced this problem . how to solve this issue .. Help is appreciated Similar issue, prev. worked (2.6.31.5) this one doesn't. NIC starts up then shut back down. I had other issues, my synaptics touchpad stopped working as well. (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550719). I'm going to post a bug on that if I can catch it. Might be firmware, though... -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SELinux denial - F12
Kurian Thayil wrote: Hi, Installed F12 and did a security update. Now, I get SELinux denial error. SELinux currently in permissive mode. Summary: SELinux is preventing access to files with the label, file_t. Detailed Description: SELinux permission checks on files labeled file_t are being denied. file_t is the context the SELinux kernel gives to files that do not have a label. This indicates a serious labeling problem. No files on an SELinux box should ever be labeled file_t. If you have just added a new disk drive to the system you can relabel it using the restorecon command. Otherwise you should relabel the entire file system. Any idea why this happened after the update? What could be done to prevent this. I am quite a newbie in SELinux scenario. Does, restorecon command fix (restorecon /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-greeter)? See this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549937 May be related, patch and workaround in the bug. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?
Gordon Charrick wrote: It's been a while since I went looking for a calendar that handles this simple task only to be repeatedly disappointed. This is one feature that (uggh) Outlook handles right. I want to keep track of monthly (or quarterly, or whatever) bills that recur. Assume it's Jan 1st and you have three bills due this month. You look at your task list and see the three bills along with the date they're due. You pay bill A and check off the task for that bill. Now you look at your task list and see 2 bills still due in January and one due in February. Pretty simple and logical way to keep track of monthly bills or other tasks that need to be done regularly, but haven't found any Linux apps that can handle this task. Anyone have any I have been using the remind program for years. It takes input in text files and can generate task lists, text calendars for email, or HTML calendars to your web size. It handles things like first tuesday after the first monday, the bizarre rules about when US holidays have been moved to make three day weekend and remove historical significance, and the like. Also does differences, so you can print not only the birthday of kids but their age this year, anniversaries, last friday in the quarter, Easter, whatever. And you can generate documentation or actually execute programs, which is also handy. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Synaptic Touchpad not working
Robert Collard wrote: gsynaptics applet is becoming obsolete. Instead. install: gpointing-device-settings per instructions on the gsynaptics site. Was this in response to the recent upgrade to 2.6.31.9, or a random factoid? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only 2 and i've poked around under System-Prefs and don't see a setting for that. Related to that, I also keep a fair number of desktops, and I find that they take more of my taskbar than I wish to give them. My solution was to put a tray (aka drawer) on the taskbar, and put the desktop switcher in that. I usually leave it open, but I can gain the space it takes just by closing the drawer. Then I have room for the monitor app on the taskbar, so I can quickly see if the system is running badly. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Raid I/O error
Allan R. Batteiger wrote: Good afternoon I have a sever with a Raid controller, 4 drives setup as Raid 5. Every night I an getting a report showing a lot ( 200-1000) of I/O errors on DM-0. I have also starting getting reports of I/O errors on files. However I do not seem to be able to get any info on what is causing these issues. I thought if a drive was causing the problems, the raid array would be correcting for them. I would have expecting a warning saying I had a drive going bad but not un recoverable errors. The Hardware config is Tyan GX28 with a LSI Megaraid 1430G controller 4X 500 GB SATA drives. I have been doing online searches but so far not much luck. Does any one have any ideas ? Once you get away from Linux software RAID you have to depend on the controller vendor. You might ask on the linux-raid list, lots of very clever people hang out there. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora] IBM Netfinity 5000
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: We've got success. After the net install finished, first it wouldn't boot at all, so I went into rescue mode and tried booting the drive then only to have it tell it that it didn't have any bootable partitions. So, a little bit of grub-install magic, the system now boots without a problem. Next step was to run 'yum update' ... and while installing kernel-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686, I saw these warnings/errors: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko Possible missing firmware ql1800_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2500 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2400 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2322 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2300 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2200 for module qla2xxx.ko Possible missing firmware ql2100 for module qla2xxx.ko Is this something that should be addressed? For the record, the machine has an Adaptec AIC-7895, so I don't *think* the 94xx is even needed here. Unless you want to run the qlogic controller, ignore this. Is this the good ServRAID controller? It's an Adaptek with IBM firmware. Good board. Ran a bunch of them, TB of little tiny drives. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? You didn't seem to get an answer to your question, but a lot of suggestions for what you could do, the eeepc will run FC12 and you can get a model with a six cell battery setup if life is important. How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? Kevin had that right, Nokia N900 is one answer, of go Verizon and Droid. That's on their CDMA net, if coverage counts (the ads are true, their coverage is better). Wal-Mart sells several smart phone using GSM, which I'm told run or can run Linux. Don't have details to give, sorry. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:58 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:42:50 Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? Thanks The nokia N900 runs debian, you can open a terminal, tweak the sources and install things via dpkg. I have a co-worker that has one - it's pretty impressive. I felt foolish posting this question but now I am very glad I did. Is the n900 running Debian out of the box or did your friend load it with Debian ? Is Maemo Debian ? What Linux apps will it run ? Does it have Gnome/Qt/KDE ? It must support Qt apps because Nokia bought Qt. Has anyone here fooled around with putting mainstream Linux apps on the N900 ? It's Maemo Debian, came that way out of the box I've read a few posts about folks installing mainstream apps on it with success. I dont think it has KDE/Gnome, it's a touch-screen maemo specific interface. I'll know more in the coming weeks, Mine is due to be delivered today Please let me/us (?) know how you like it. It would be SO sweet to be running Linux on our phones, laptops and servers ! One OS and so much flexibility, not have to learn some new SDK, etc. We are quite disappointed with my wife's iPhone. Everything is so locked up. You know what they say, there's an app for that. ;-) If you need a phone (talk/text) a smart phonme is the way to go. If you need G3 connectivity, Verizon is the way to go if you operate in rural or suburb location. If cell is expendable, netbook and Skype (or similar) wins. My opinion only, warranty coverage limited to your purchase price on the advice. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Forcing vesa driver from boot line
I just upgraded my FC12 and now the X is unusable, due to improvements in the radeon driver. I tried using video= and xdriver= boot options, is there any way to restore this to slow but usable operation, or should I just roll back and reinstall an older release? The mouse is totally unresponsive, system gets 2-3k int/sec from something, and Wifi stopped working. So far this release is 2 for 11 on my systems, the others have been rolled back to FC11. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless problem.
fred smith wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 08:08:42AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I also have wireless problems under F12. In my case the problem has to do with network strength. I have a laptop that dual boots Windows 7 and F12. Under Windows 7 I can see and connect to more wireless networks than I can under F12. In all cases that I have tried if the signal is low or poor F12 will never succeed in connecting, but W7 will. I have tried both the internal wireless (Intel 3945) and an external Linksys USB adapter. Even if the signal is good F12 will not report available wireless connections. I normally run F12 so if there is anything I can tweek on F12 to improve accessibility I would like to know. FWIW, just one more data point: when I ran F10 on my eeepc 901 (ralink wireless) it showed many more wireless APs in my neighborhood than it now does on F12. I still get good signal strength on my own AP, but it seems odd that it now tends to show 1/2 to 2/3 of the number it used to show. (I now see six or eight, including mine, I used to see 10-14 routinely). I suppose some of them may have gone off the air I have some 'g' USB devices I have been using on several machines with FC11, FC12 will not use them. I was not installing any magic drivers for them, they used to work. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
jdow wrote: From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au Sent: Friday, 2009/December/25 18:28 Tim: There are drivers to read ext3 on Windows. If you use both systems, you'll have to weigh up which is the most convenient. Native file systems on Linux, which supports your normal permissions and ownership file details. Or a pathetic-featured file system that can be easily read by many different systems. Antonio Olivares: quote or a pathetic-featured file system that can be easily read by many different systems. /quote I like this quote, but I have seen systems which this is not TRUE :(, I help my students clean out their windows machines, and they had to force shutdown(Pressing and holding power button, machine was not responding had AV virus/spyware/trojan(you name it) ) and the NTFS partition was cleanly unmounted and therefore not easily read :( I have to point out that the /quite universal pathetic file system/ is FAT, not NTFS. Though both seem designed to support the: Windows deniable plausibility error: I cannot recall the contents of that file. There are a great many number of systems, that one way or another, can easily work with the FAT file system. NTFS support is still limited. There is a reason that FAT became the standard for flash memory drives rather than the others. It writes to the drive one heck of a lot less often than NTFX or ext(whatever). This can be important on a device with lifetime write limitations. You are exactly correct. Which is why I usually use either ext2 or put the journal file on another file system. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Forcing vesa driver from boot line
Kam Leo wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: I just upgraded my FC12 and now the X is unusable, due to improvements in the radeon driver. I tried using video= and xdriver= boot options, is there any way to restore this to slow but usable operation, or should I just roll back and reinstall an older release? The mouse is totally unresponsive, system gets 2-3k int/sec from something, and Wifi stopped working. So far this release is 2 for 11 on my systems, the others have been rolled back to FC11. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com Try adding nomodeset to grub to disable KMS. vga= and other video options should be able to take effect afterwards. Turns out the current release is too broken on my hardware to use, the touchpad fails after a few seconds regardless. Thanks much for the input, I was looking at the wrong issue, apparently, I couldn't use the system enough to evaluate the change. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550719 -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: md raid 5 not working
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 15:28 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: My Linux RAID skills/experience aren't that deep, so I'm not sure how to fix this. I'd appreciate any pointers. Some details: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 60801 488384001 fd Linux raid autodetect Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 1 60801 488384001 fd Linux raid autodetect Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sde1 1 60801 488384001 fd Linux raid autodetect Solved my problem! As you can see here, the md superblock is on the first primary partition of each of these drives. But, Linux wasn't seeing these partitions. A simple 'ls -l /dev/sd*' only showed me /dev/sdb, /dev/sdd, and /dev/sde. The reason I provided mdadm details on these drives was because I couldn't see /dev/sdb1, etc. I couldn't give md information on the partitions. I realized I had once used the entire drives in a md RAID 5 set instead of building the RAID 5 on partitions. I had outdated md superblocks on /dev/sd[bde]! I suppose when I rebuilt the array properly, I didn't wipe the drives completely. Basically, the old md superblocks were confusing the kernel. To fix this, I ran the following from the rescue CD: mdadm --zero-superblock --force /dev/sdb mdadm --zero-superblock --force /dev/sdd mdadm --zero-superblock --force /dev/sde When I rebooted, /dev/md3 was detected properly and came up without any problems. Sweet! Thanks to everyone that replied. I didn't think I could solve this one on my own, but the man page + my realization of what was going on helped immensely. For future reference there is also the linux-raid mailing list which handles issue regardless of release. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot
BeartoothThpd30 wrote: Follow-ups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general On my #2 PC, I had finally given up on preupgrading. I copied /home/btth onto an external hard drive; did a fresh install; copied /home/btth back (and did chown -R btth:btth on it just in case); did a lot of customizing; did a PackageKit update, which called for rebooting; did the reboot. That failed. Somewhere among all the above, I got disgusted with the display, which turned out to be 800x600 -- despite being connected directly (no KVM switch!) to the 1680x1050 monitor. The app I tried to correct with turned out (later, on another machine) *not* to be system-config-display, but something called gnome-display-properties; so I edited 1680x1050 into xorg.conf. Right about this point I cringe, I have had bad luck editing xorg.conf in recent Fedora. In general Fedora will like you better if you don't have xorg.conf, which may have been related to part of the problem. At the recommendation of a number of people I use system-config-hardware to be sure the display type is set right, the the Preferences-Display to set the resolution. Failing in this use system-config-display --xorg to create a new file, then edit that. Only needed to do that on one machine. I make no claim to be an expert, I just have learned not to shoot myself in the foot. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Support for Logitech G11 keyboard - take 2
Is there any useful support for the extended keys on the G11 keyboard? I was pointed at the g15 software, which since people described it may have suffered from feature creep to the point where it has become one of those before you can make this work you need that endless chains, with the parts depending on versioned libraries and such which I find, but are the wrong version. There seems no configure option to just pretend the display on the G15 keyboard doesn't exist, after the 4th trip around the loop[1] I got off. Like many things, if you can get all the parts at the right version it works, but all the parts are moving targets. Any other ideas? Keyboard is great, even w/o the special keys, but they would save me much time. [1] g15macro needs g15daemon. G15daemon needs g15lib. g15lib needs libusb, which is not in the libusb rpm, but libusb-devel which wasn't available from the fastest repo yum had cached... Also need g15render, found two copies neither of which is the right version. Ran out of time to work on unpackaged software not on the critical path. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 12/20/2009 06:46 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: If you remember well, I said I formatted the drive by right clicking on the icon. If you format sdb, an sdb1 partition will be created. If you don't have a partition, the drive can't be used. You can format a drive without a partition table, and still format/use it. I am not sure if it would get automatically mounted, but it does work. A partition table, and partition will NOT be created for you. Also, you can have a drive with one partition without that partition being partition 1. ZIP disks were famous for this. For a log time, DOS formatted ZIP disks used partition 4. The man page does say: e2fsck - check a Linux ext2/ext3/ext4 file system A file system is not a device. So, the filesystem -- here sdb1 -- must be specified. Note: I answered Bill Davidsen first. You can use an entire drive, or a partition on a drive, as a tar archive. (tar -cvf /dev/sdb /home/mikkel) Then, I have no idea where the /sdb1 partition comes from. I also have a lost and found directory on that drive. A thumb drive comes with a single partition, and reformatting that partition as ext3 still leaves the partition table intact. The operative word in what I wrote is can do it either way, what you have is fine, but if you had no partitions that wouldn't mean that the drive was unusable. Since the mount point is BK it's likely that somehow you used that as a label for putting the ext filesystem on the partition. As for using the whole drive to hold a tar: tar cf /dev/sda /home works, although tar cf - /home | gzip -8 /dev/sda lets you put more on the media. I would not guess if the CPU time to compress is more or less than the write time for the uncompressed data. Since you have room for everything, I would suggest that rsync is a good solution, it will back up only what changes. Archives are nice but you are likely to want to pull an individual file out from time to time. Here's an ls: ls -al /media/BK/ total 208 drwx--. 5 marcel marcel 4096 2009-12-20 20:58 . drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 4096 2009-12-20 22:07 .. drwx--. 2 root root 16384 2009-11-25 02:06 lost+found drwxrwxr-x. 16 marcel marcel 4096 2009-12-18 00:53 bk -rw-rw-r--. 1 marcel marcel 172509 2009-12-20 20:58 screenshot_pref_applications_firefox.jpg drwx--. 4 marcel marcel 4096 2009-12-10 01:58 .Trash-500 -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
Marcel Rieux wrote:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com
If you remember well, I said I formatted the drive by right clicking
on the icon. If you format sdb, an sdb1 partition will be created. If
you don't have a partition, the drive can't be used.
Whatever gave you that idea?
As I said, I right clicked on the drive, chose Format and now there's
an sdb1 partition and no other. I never created it otherwise.
I assume right click implies you did this with some GUI tool which did what it
thought you should do instead of what you asked it to do. I have no experience
using such, and what experience I have with others using them is only when
people ask what did this do? When it works I don't hear about it. ;-)
Can't really help with GUI tools, sorry.
A file system is on a device, partitions are devices too. Try ls -l
/dev/sda* and look at the first letter, all block devices.
You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.
Or, so do I think, cause I've always created / and /home partitions with Linux.
As I'm sure others will tell you, sure you can.
mke2fs /dev/sdb
{tell it yes, do what you asked}
mkdir -p /tmp/sdb mount /dev/sdb /tmp/sdb
df
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Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error
Colin Brace wrote: Hi all, I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500 (Poulbos) video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of booting. There are no error messages reported in the system log, so I am assuming it is a hardware problem. Just now I am running memtest from the Live OS (F12) on an USB stick. It has run now for some 8 hours, and during the 2nd pass I got an error message: Tst: 7 Pass: 2 Failing address: 7ba7454 - 123.6MB Good: 2aa1e9b Bad: 0aa1e19b Err-Bits: 2000 Count: 1 Chan: This netbook came with a factory-installed 2GB SIMM. Am I now justified in returning it to Acer as defective? Probably, but I think I would contact the vendor first. I suspect that with the proof of problem you have they would rather replace just the memory. After that you decide what your personal ratio of time to money is, particularly if you were going to add another 2GB anyway. And if you bought it at Staples or similar where they do simple repairs, they *may* stand behind it and do the repair as good will. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?
Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/21 Alan Evans ame.fed...@gmail.com: So I thought to file a RFE about it except: What component would it be against? Its location in the menu suggests that it's some sort of Nautilus extension, but I can't figure what package its in. Now you do, but I think the real source of the problem is the GNOME project, so I bet the best you get is RH passing through your comments, possibly with an endorsement. Of course that's a BIG endorsement, if you can get someone to scream at them in two part harmony. I agree with your assessment of this as misleading. It's in file-roller: [...@samlap Desktop]$ rpm -qif /usr/lib64/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so Name: file-roller Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.28.1Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Fri 30 Oct 2009 03:38:18 GMT Install Date: Sat 31 Oct 2009 13:14:05 GMT Build Host: x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com Group : Applications/ArchivingSource RPM: file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12.src.rpm Size: 4827862 License: GPLv2+ Signature : (none) Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://download.gnome.org/sources/file-roller/ Summary : Tool for viewing and creating archives Description : File Roller is an application for creating and viewing archives files, such as tar or zip files. Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be ignored or closed NOTABUG? I didn't actually notice until you pointed it out and while I don't actually care either way, your reasoning makes sense - which is a valid argument for an RFE. -- Sam -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
G11 keyboard
I have the Logitech G11 gaming keyboard, which I really want for filling in frequently used terms, not gaming, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to get the programable keys enabled. I would settle for turning them on, being able to program them from the computer would be a bonus, but I can do it by hand if I can enable them at all. There's reference to a package g15macro, but it's intended for other similar hardware, etc, and before I spend the time working on it (I got the source) for Fedora and a different keyboard I thought I'd ask if someone has a canned solution, like another program or rpm for g15macro which works. BTW: my word per hour are up about 10% since changing, just because it's a better keyboard. Great investment. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SeaMonkey
Revision 2.0.1 is out, fixes one nasty bug with using authenticated news servers (motzarella in my case), as well as some minor security issues. No RFE, but the corresponding Firefox and TBird versions were packaged... -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error
Colin Brace wrote: Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: I can't really help with your memory issue, but unless you plan on coding your own X driver, you will probably want to stick to F11 since it has a functioning Poulbos driver available from RPM Fusion: http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/ It's been working great for me on an Acer A0751h-1401. I'm cannot tell you how frustrated with Intel I am over the GMA-500. Mike, The Poulbos driver has also been an amazing source of frustration for me; moreover, you've gotten further than I have. Since acquiring this netbook around two months ago, I have been scouring the net looking for a solution all in vain. I've posted it about in the comment section of Adam Williamson's blog: http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/#comment-980 As well as here: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20091129132037671board_id=20model=Eee+PC+1101HApage=1SLanguage=en-us and here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=233185 and here: http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=119960 without success. The worst is that an Amazon customer did get F11 working on this very model: http://www.amazon.com/review/R11XYCNXTRZQGX As I detailed in exhaustive detail in all of the above posts, in any of the distros that support Poulbos -- Ubuntu 9.04, F11, Mandriva 2010 -- the screen grays out at the point X is loaded. Nothing in the xorg or system logs give any indication of what is going wrong. The thing boots but nothing is displayed. At the moment, I am running this Eee with VESA 800x600, which is obviously deeply unsatisfactory. I love the size/performance of this laptop, but basically, from a Linux perspective, it appears to be a lemon; I would have sold it already on eBay except that I deleted Windows the partition, and I have no idea how to reinstall it. Put it back in from you backup. :-( Okay, you didn't make one, let's get your system working. In similar situations I have had luck with these techniques. If you feel like trying a few I expect one or more will help. - add vga=ask or some known good resolution. Need not be your desired resolution, just what works. - be sure you take xorg.conf out and let it build one - use the video= boot option to get various options - use the option to set the X driver (xdriver= from memory) - use another framebuffer Can't guess which might help, sorry. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mounting ext3 partition as ext4 without formatting Fedora 12/LXDE spin
Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I have been trying to mount my home directory which is in a separate partition containing data and that I do not want to format upon install. However, the LXDE spin seems to want to mount it as ext3 unless i format it upon installation. Is there a way to get around this problem? I'm not clear what you mean by seems to want to mount it as ext3 here. When you run the mount command with -t ext4 it mounts as ext3? Are you sure that the data is ext4 format? Is this a partition of some LVM creation? Did you specify this data when you did the install? You may have already formatted it? Clarification, please? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: physical RAM restriction in Fedora 12 (32 bit and 64 bit)
Roberto Ragusa wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 12/17/2009 12:51 PM, Mark Ryden wrote: My question is: 1) In Fedora 12 32 bit default installation , does the kernel knows more than 3 GB of RAM ? what is the limit ? The same. It uses what the BIOS tell it is available, unless you run a PAE kernel. The Physical Address Extensions allow you to address the full amount of your RAM. And the PAE kernel will be installed by default. So the 32 bit Fedora could be considered without limit too. IIRC 36 bits, or 64GB, reasonable design for a number chosen decades ago. Still a reasonable size for anything but servers, most motherboards support 16-24GB max, and only half of that if you use affordable 2GB memory instead of 4GB. The PAE kernel allows use of the NX bit, to prevent execution of non-program memory areas. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to get F12 to 'send host-name' in dhcp request?
M. Milanuk wrote:
On 12/17/2009 2:47 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:29:46 -0800
M. Milanuk wrote:
Can someone help me out here? This is driving me nutty. How do I make
F12 send the right request to the dhcp server?
Every distro seems to do this differently (sometimes each distro
changes between releases :-), but for fedora/redhat what has
always worked for me is to edit the ifcfg-eth0 script
and add:
DHCP_HOSTNAME=whatever
to the parameters.
Hello Tom,
Thanks for the help. I took a look in that script, and I see what
you're talking about. I may end up going that route in the end, or just
editing the dnsmasq.conf file on the server to use dhcp-client-id
instead of dhcp-host.
In the mean time, its still bugging me as to what exactly is going on
here. On further inspection, the /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf files
for both the F12 machine and the U9.10 machine are nearly the same they
*both* have Network Manager adding the same line to the end ('send
dhcp-client-identifier demandred '), but the file in U9.10 looks like
they just copied over /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (which they still have)
into the NM file, with one line uncommented:
send host-hame hostname;
I don't know if that gets expanded when the script is run to take the
machines hostname and send it as part of the dhcp request, and thats why
it gets the proper dhcp lease as it should, and F12 doesn't?
From the sounds of things, it appears I'm going to have to learn a bit
about wireshark and start trying to capture the network traffic when the
client machines send their dhcp requests and see what is and isn't being
sent.
Learning wireshark and tcpdump are valuable goals for anyone who is getting into
checking that network traffic is proper.
I thought I had taken the easy way out by just setting the MAC address of
virtual machines so I can control the name and IP address in one place. Nothing
I see in this thread makes me think there's a better way. ;-)
Having all the name/IP/MAC information in one place has made my life easier many
times, both for administration and documentation.
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Re: disk moves from /dev/sdd to /dev/sde
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
I'm seeing something strange where a disk appears to change from
/dev/sdd to /dev/sde under f12. I have a motherboard (Asus M3A78T) that
appears to have multiple onboard disk controllers. When I boot with no
external storage plugged into the USB, my hard disks are assigned sda,
sdb, sdc sdd. When I boot with, say, a flash drive, camera or cell
phone attached the external device gets the sdd name and my last disk
gets the name sde. Now, that in itself doesn't cause any problems
because I don't have the disk sdX names wired into anything.
What is a problem is that after booting, something unknown (perhaps an
ATA reset?) causes the disk letters to be re-assigned just as if it was
at boot time. If I have some flash-like external storage plugged in my
last disk gets shifted to /dev/sde. At that point programs like
smartmon that are looking at the disk under the old name fail to find it
and generate an error. smartmon -a /dev/sde does show the disk under
it's new name, but even the kernel appears to look for the disk under
its old name. I see lots of the following mailed to me by chron:
/etc/cron.hourly/zzzdo-backup:
/dev/dm-0: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
/dev/dm-0: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
How do I nail down the disk numbering a bit tighter so that things don't
move around after boot-time?
This is a new one on me,m as I've never seen a device name change except a boot
time. Obviously when a new device comes on line, USB or similar, it will get a
name, but I've never seen the name change on a continuously connected device.
Therefore, it would be worth investigating carefully to see how and when this
happens. Might I suggest running a script every ten minutes or so, so you can
see what changes, and look at /var/log/messages for the time when the change
happened.
Maybe something like this, so you are sure which device is which:
#!/bin/bash
# blkdevtrc 1.1 2009-12-20 12:53:07-05 root Exp
# trace which devices are connected to which names
cd /sys/block || exit 1
# NOTE: works for real devices, not member of fakeraid
# controllers.
# Typical values for this define are Serial or Capacity
LastLine=Serial
echo block device trace for host $(hostname) $(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M)
SepLine=
for dev in sd*; do
echo ${SepLine}
echo Device name /dev/${dev}
echo -n Device connection:
cat ${dev}/dev; echo
smartctl --all /dev/$dev | sed -n 1,/INFORMATION/d;1,/${LastLine}/p
SepLine===
done
I swiped tis from my tool kit, later versions are more complex, but this will
show when a device moves, and where.
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Re: Routing with 2 ISP
David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, Sorry to bothering you. I had a small network with one ISP and firewall. eth1 - Is connected to my ISP eth0 + eth0.1 , eth0.2 and etc are my local networks. All my network accesses internet via eth1. My routing table looks like the following : 213.194.242.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 10.123.20.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 10.123.10.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 10.123.11.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0.8 10.123.42.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0.5 10.123.123.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0.7 10.123.40.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0.4 10.123.30.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 10.123.44.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0.6 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 eth0.8 0.0.0.0 213.194.242.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 Recently I have added secon provider via ADSL. ADSL modem is connected via eth0.8 . Using adsl-setup I have created ppp interface ppp0. Now I want to achieve the following : Computers from local network range 10.123.123.0/24 (eth0.7) should access internet using my second internet provider via ppp0. I believe that for that I need to use advanced networking and iproute package. I will add the second routing table named adsl and configure routing via ppp0 there. Together with that i need to set in iptables , nat table to masquerade all ips going out via ppp0. I believe I need to use ip command for this. And the finally my questions are : 1) Is there a good tutorial / howto for using iproute on the internet, except of the LARTC.org Let us know if you find it. 2) Can i utilize by tools of Fedora, to have my configuration (with second routing table, using ip ) somehow stored - to be permanent when I will do machine restart? I mean there are networking-scripts /etc/sysconfing/network-scripts which can handle, IP assigment, virtual LANS, aliases even static routes. Can they handle advanced routing as well? The easiest way to do this is to put all the commands in a shell script you run out of the run levels you want. Not that you can't hack scripts and save iptables, and do wonderful stuff, but a shell script has a nice provision for comments so you can see what you are doing, it does one thing at a time so it's easier to figure out what didn't work, and you can use your favorite version control system to track what you do. I used the MARK action in iptables to allow me to force packets out a given interface. You then need only a very few rules to make routing work. Also, unless you have nothing but machines and people you trust on all these little subnets, have the external ISP connections on NICs not reachable from the private machines without going through your firewall. Having had a 12 years old tell me Oh I read the man page and changed the netmask was a revelation. Unless people are totally trusted and really competent, assume they will (maybe by accident) do something you don't want. Also, packets from the ISP in eth0.8 can physically reach the subnets (unless you have VLAN switches or similar). Finally, be sure packets can't come in one NIC and out the other from one ISP to the other. The NIC is looking at MAC address, packets will come in with foreign IPs. I see a few thousand of these a week. Sounds like you are going to have some learning experiences. You want to look at the 'recent' match in iptables, it may be useful in blocking some evil, depending on your policy. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 12/20/2009 02:29 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Now that i know it's a 4GB drive, I wouldn't format it ext3, but since it's already formatted ext3 and I don't plan to use it to exchange data, I'll leave it as it is. But, as I said. I still have this problem: e2fsck -c /dev/sdb e2fsck 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009) e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 device Dumb question did you format /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1? If you remember well, I said I formatted the drive by right clicking on the icon. If you format sdb, an sdb1 partition will be created. If you don't have a partition, the drive can't be used. Whatever gave you that idea? If you drop a filesystem on the whole drive and then mount the whole drive, it works fine (at least with tools which assume what you say is what you want). You can use whole drives as members of raid arrays, someone tests that on the raid mailing list regularly. ;-) The requirement is that you use it where you made it. I remember you saying you have a partition on the drive, so I suspect you will have better luck running e2fsck -c /dev/sdb1. The man page does say: e2fsck - check a Linux ext2/ext3/ext4 file system A file system is not a device. So, the filesystem -- here sdb1 -- must be specified. A file system is on a device, partitions are devices too. Try ls -l /dev/sda* and look at the first letter, all block devices. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from grub.
Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 11 December 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: That is a thought I suppose, but between 2 different distro's? Sounds a little dicey. OTOH, that would be a nice idea as it would be the quickest, dirtiest way I could think of to get amanda rebuilt for 64 bit since it is always buil;t and installed from amanda's home dir. Since no one has suggested a fix for the 64 bit F12 fedora being so slow, I have another 64 bit torrent running right now, to see if that one is 50x slower than this F10 32 bit install is now. I would try the Live-CD and see how that runs, smaller download. The suggestion is that some part of your system hardware isn't well supported. I would try some non-graphic tests, I have concluded that the Open Source purity of graphics drivers is more important than the speed or functionality, and that I should try running a remote console on a machine with fast graphics before I blame anything else. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Timothy Murphy wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: I use a similar approach as outlined in this link: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating_a_local_yum_repository_centos All you need is the distribution ISO, and the createrepo and rsync commands. You can always experiment to get the hang of it and ask when you get stuck. In a simple setup you don't an apache or ftp server. I take it that this requires one to download the entire repository? And then keep it up-to-date. I must say that for my simple needs the NFS solution seems simpler. You can create a repo with just the stuff from the DVD and the RPMs you download as upgrades. Any new upgrades will be pulled over the non-local net, but you can save them and update your local repo. This requires more effort that I want (did it for fc9 and fc10) but works fine on a technical level. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 23:25 -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 21:58 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 12/18/2009 01:59 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: I have a Kingston Data Traveler 8GB Flash drive that was previously formatted FAT32. I reformatted it ext3 simply by clicking on the icon and choosing Format, but it still has only 3.7 GB available. Any way around this? You reformatted the existing partition. So it is the same size as the FAT32 partition. If you want to use the entire drive, you will need to re-partition it. You will probably want to use gparted for this. You have the choice of creating a second partition, expanding the existing partition to use the full drive, or deleting the current partition, and creating a new one. Ar first sight, your suggestion made a lot of sense but I checked the drive with gparted and it sees only one partition. See: http://cjoint.com/data/mtd0lzbfUF.htm Thanks for your answer! Mikkel, Have you tried looking at your drive with good ol' fdisk at a root command prompt? If your Kingston is like my Vebatim, the output should look much like this: # fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 8086 MB, 8086618112 bytes 249 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15438 * 512 = 7904256 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 11023 7896506 83 Linux The key part to look for is the 8086 MB. If your 8 GB thumb drive only shows something like 3.7 GB under fdisk, it's borked up internally and you're done. I thing borked is too pessimistic an analysis. There is a 4GB area on the pen ddrive that is not partitioned nor is it formatted in any way, according to fdisk. I wold just ignore the 4GB area and don;r worry about it. I don't know what you think you see here: Disk /dev/sdb: 4045 MB, 4045930496 bytes 120 heads, 55 sectors/track, 1197 cylinders Units = cylinders of 6600 * 512 = 3379200 bytes Disk identifier: 0x04030201 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 11198 3951100b W95 FAT32 But the total size (see first line) is 4GB, and it is all in the partition (see last line). I have no idea what 4GB you think you see that isn't partitioned, and fdisk only allows you to see the partition table, not if an area is formatted in any way since the contents of partitions or non-partition areas of the drive are not examined. I like fdisk, it isn't very smart and doesn't pretend to be, what it does it does correctly. Other than looking at the /var/log/messages for an HPA message, I would say this is a 4GB drive. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 and wi-fi dongles
Alan Cox wrote: hand load usb-storage. Unfortunately I hit several other showstopper FC12 bugs (random crashes of kvm etc) that I've not debugging it bug gone back to a working release. (Engage brain before posting) I've not debugged it but gone back to .. Alan, if even you have trouble with FC12, I think I'll hold off any more upgrades. My favorite is that on a system with no sound hardware metacity crashes constantly. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Daily Kernel Panics
Steven Stern wrote: On 12/13/2009 07:25 AM, Globe Trotter wrote: Do you have desktop effects enabled? I found that my system is much more stable with desktop effects turned off [1]. My video is ATI [2] with driver 'ati' [3]. Footmarks: 1. ~]$ uptime 10:27:28 up 3 days, 9:22, 3 users, load average: 0.25, 0.22, 0.18 2. ~]$ lspci [--SNIP--] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] (Secondary) 3. ati - Vendor-supplied driver for ati cards I do have an ATI card. I'll try turning off desktop effects. Removing glx-utils removes all of compiz! 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] Note that in the above example of a stable system, item 3. I have had about equal numbers of people tell me that the vendor driver is vastly more stable than the built-in driver, and totally the opposite. Oh, and some fundamentalist open source fanatics who tell me it's better to crash a few times a day than use a closed source driver. ;-) The only desktop effect of interest to me is stability. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Greg Woods wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 13:42 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On my system, I turn off NetworkManager and build (by hand) a ifcfg-br0 script to define the bridge, and make ifcfg-eth0 part of the bridge, moving all IPADDR and such parameters to the bridge. This was going to be my next step. I actually did get it to work with manual configuration, but then I realized it won't do me any good anyway because my desktop workstation is on the other side of the corporate firewall from the wireless network, so I can't connect my Palm to my desktop via the network anyway. Anybody had any success getting USB devices to work on the virtual machines in KVM (back to the original question)? I can go through the process of attaching it to the virtual machine (it is seen by the virt-manager), but this doesn't appear to actually work. Windows doesn't see it and only the USB subsystem ever shows up in the virtual machine details page. Can't help, I run KVM from the command line, with scripts. My KVM usage predates libvirt by a good bit, and I have it all working and don't want to spend time evaluating libvirt vs. the competition. If you run my script you should be able to start a machine from cli and try the usb stuff. It's on my list for fc12 testing, but I'm very busy now and can't take on anything I can't do while my printer runs. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Boot error message re mount of loop device
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:00:37 +, Marko wrote: Enough output is available in the quotes. Mounting local filesystems is in rc.sysinit. Mounting other filesystems is in netfs service script. The former does: action $Mounting local filesystems: mount -a -t nonfs,nfs4,smbfs,ncpfs,cifs,gfs,gfs2 -O no_netdev The latter does: action $Mounting other filesystems: mount -a -t nonfs,nfs4,cifs,ncpfs,gfs So, both mount iso9660 file-systems, and unlike other types of mounts, iso9660 prints that ugly warning. You can run those mount -a ... lines manually for testing. The work-around I've used is to mount them with option _netdev added in fstab. That mounts iso9660 within the netfs service script, which is not exactly right here, but good enough and an alternative to doing it manually in rc.local And that seems to provide a workaround, good trick. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from grub.
Gene Heskett wrote: OTOH, since its a new install, I could just as easily do a reinstall. What sort of a voodoo spell to I have to use to get a /boot partition of say 400 megabytes? The default is only 100, and that will never fly here for more than a week. Select the custom layout, choose fixed size for the /boot, make it a primary partition (may no longer be needed, but I do), and set the filesystem type to ext3. Then define the / root, and since you're a fellow conservative a separate /home, unless you want to share the one on sda. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...
Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Finally got the go ahead to create two Linux courses to our College program. Have included Linux in my lab since Redhat 9 thru the current Fedora 12, but have just been able to show students little bits of it from time to time, since the program is geared to mostly windows and some courses using AS/400 mini system. The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level course as a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section where the students go thru the installation of various Linux OS's, and they can use the Fedora, but many students still stay with windows. Was wondering if people on the list might have some knowledge of material that would best meet the needs of a community college program. Last year I did work with 3 students on a Special project involving my G4L disk imaging project, and it was interesting, but very focused. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The Ideal is to have it ready for Fall 2010. To gain student interest, on the first day give them a list of open source applications by category, and have at least one decent multiplayer game to show off, and a shooter for those liking reflexes over bring. Some media stuff, CD burner software, maybe some movies taken on campus and turned into a DVD with dvdstyler or similar. Good to show them that the Linux will have applications and games as well as more serious stuff, they are students, they care about that stuff. Maybe video chat, particularly multiuser, there's a lot of that around. Access twitter and some IM service, that's important to them, too. Then show them open office and make sure they know it runs on Windows and Mac as well. Convince them that they would use it if they lear it, and they will damn near teach themselves. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flowchart-ish tool
Bill Davidsen wrote: I am trying to create a visual aid for some complex relationships (not software, sorry). It would seem that some flowchart, or similar software, might assist. I need to show the relationships between items and groups of items, and I really don't want to do it by hand. Ideally I would identify a group of items as a group, so they could be place near one another or marked with the same color, or similar. Then I want to describe the relationship between them, (ex: 'depends on', or 'funds') and the relationship might look different from each end. Simple example A and B, from A B has relation 'child' while from B A has relation 'parent'. That term 'properties' seems to be used in some things I found, but I haven't gotten a solution. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Or even suggest a good manual tool, neither xfig nor gimp is ideal. Thanks, all. I have some things to try. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flowchart-ish tool
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 11/12/09 17:28, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: --snip-- Thanks, all. I have some things to try. Maybe something here? http://www.insideria.com/2009/12/28-rich-data-visualization-too.html That's a worthwhile tip even if it doesn't solve my current problem. What a great collection of reviews of the tools! Thank you. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preventing mounting of media for a user
Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/09/2009 11:39 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: FC11 or 12, GNOME. All the options set to not load, mount, browse, etc in Preferences. Still loads the DVD and mounts it. I thought there was a way to prevent this from the GUI. I can kill this with udev, but that applies to all users. Kind of negates the idea of per-user setup. System--Preferences--File Management--Media tab and set them all to Ask what to do or Do nothing. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - Actually on fc11 it's System--Preferences--Personal--FileManagement but yes, we're talking about the same tab (as described in the original post). And setting to 'do nothing' doesn't work, nor does the checkbox for 'never browse' which greys out the whole area of options prevent mounting of the media. I put a DVD in the drive to append to it, and it mounts. Still. In spite of the options being set. So the question remains, now that you verified I was describing the same tab, got another suggestion? udev changes just prevent mounting, I want to set that per user. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Flowchart-ish tool
I am trying to create a visual aid for some complex relationships (not software, sorry). It would seem that some flowchart, or similar software, might assist. I need to show the relationships between items and groups of items, and I really don't want to do it by hand. Ideally I would identify a group of items as a group, so they could be place near one another or marked with the same color, or similar. Then I want to describe the relationship between them, (ex: 'depends on', or 'funds') and the relationship might look different from each end. Simple example A and B, from A B has relation 'child' while from B A has relation 'parent'. That term 'properties' seems to be used in some things I found, but I haven't gotten a solution. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Or even suggest a good manual tool, neither xfig nor gimp is ideal. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Processes will not start up on reboot
Raymond Jette wrote: Good morning, I am setting up a new corporate MTA. The MTA runs Exim4, Spamassassin, ClamAV, etc... When I reboot the system most everything comes up fine. I am having issues with the spamassassin and clamd.exim process though. They do not want to start on there own. They will start when I start them by hand: /etc/init.d/clamd.exim start /etc/init.d/spamassassin start Scripts for each of these processes are in the /etc/init.d/ directory. Any ideas why they will not come up on a reboot? man chkconfig -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is Visualization possibe.
Aaron Konstam wrote: /proc/cpuinfo displays cpu flags below. Is this system capable of visualization? flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr I'll bite, WTH do you mean by visualization? I assume you want fancy graphics, accelerated graphics are supported for some video chips. More detail on what data you want to visualize. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Greg Woods wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 17:55 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 16:11:11 Greg Woods wrote: I'm guessing I could set up a VM that has a real IP address rather than using NAT In VirtualBox you set this up as follows: * open VirtualBox * open the settings window for your VM * go to network, open the appropriate adapter tab (typically the first one) * set the attached to setting to bridged adapter * click OK This worked, and I am finally able to sync my Palm via a virtual machine. Now I need to figure out how to do this for KVM. This appears to be more difficult than either VirtualBox or Xen, as the virt-manager doesn't create the necessary bridged devices automatically for this to work, so I am going to have to figure out how to do it manually. I have Googled for this but the instructions I found didn't work. As soon as I add the eth0 to one of my bridge devices, regular networking for the host OS stops working. Obviously I am just missing something. I am going to have to find a tuturial somewhere on how bridging actually works in order to figure this out. This script may contain useful information, I use it on multiple machines. Run with . kvm-start.sh as root. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot kvm-start.sh Description: Bourne shell script -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 14:08 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 21:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: What is the rational for demanding that /root be a directory on /, and not a separate partition? See at: http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/pix/root-not-allowed.jpg I would presume that with runlevel 1 (single user mode), that it would be a problem to run as root and root's home directory is not available. Why would it be missing? The /root mount point would be there, the home directory would just be empty, and that's not an issue. good point I think that actually provides more of the actual reason why anaconda doesn't permit a /root mounted partition though because it would toss the logs into /root and the mount would hide the logs (but of course anaconda could probably move the files to the mounted partition but that would require more coding. I didn't mean to sound as if I favored /root as a filesystem, but the logic is bogus, the directory will certainly be there. The main use of the stuff in /root is for backup of local changes. ;-) find /etc -mnewer /root/install.log | cpio -oB -Hustar | gzip -9v etc-new-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from grub.
Tom H wrote: Resend as there has been no reply, with added info. I finally said to hell with it and let F12 install itself on /dev/sdb with all its defaults. I was surprised on the reboot when my usual grub menu from /dev/sda was all that showed up, no mention of an F12 install at all. Added: I had it install everything in the options list, but gave it only /dev/sdb to play with in the available disks menu's, use the defaults on /dev/sdb, so it made a 100 meg /boot, using ext4, and a logical volume out of the rest of the drive. I have NDI how to query the filesystem used there, other than trying to mount /dev/sdb1 as ext3 fails. So, since I had blown away a centos install to put F12 on /dev/sdb, I carved up a fresh grub stanza that reads like this and added it to /dev/sda1/grub/grub.conf: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdb3 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=19 fallback=1 timeout=15 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz [...] #21 new stanza title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 from dev/sdb) root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_coyote- lv_root LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64.img which is in fact pasted from the /dev/sdb1/grub/grub.conf except for the initial root (hd1,0) statement. So it looks as if I might have to 'chainloader +1 ' it instead, so how do I do that? I've never done that before. Also, that /dev/sdb1 partition only mounts as ext4 if that is important. Added: I experimentally added a 'chainloader+1' as the next line after the root (hd1,0) in the /dev/sda1/grub/grub.conf, but all that seemed to do was add another 10 second delay before I get the error 13 message. I would have thought from what little I know about grub, that this should force a reload, effectively a grub restart, from the mbr of /dev/sdb. Is there something I need to change in the /dev/sdb1/grub/grub.conf also? Chainloading will not work because F12 defaults to grub1, which cannot boot from an ext4 /boot. You are almost right. The F12 version of grub1 will boot from ext4, Gene's problem is that his installed graub is F11, which will not. I couldn't reproduce this because I always set my /boot to ext2, which always works fine. Fastest solution seems to lie in backup, change to ext3, restore, and use of either map or chain should work fine. Your F12 stanza looks OK (I have never used so many options but why not?). Is your /boot/grub/device.map on /dev/sda associating (hd1) to /dev/sdb? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enable surround 5.1 output on laptop
Alan Cox wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:22:09 +0100 Major Péter majorpe...@sch.bme.hu wrote: My Sound card is Intel ICH8, so I guess this means, that my card isn't supported. :( Should be (depends on the actual codec your vendor used) - more likely the problem is pulseaudio. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=225630 may be helpful While this gives a method for getting around the limitations of PA, it certainly points out how manual these features are. In the days of oss the front and back channels showed up as two dsp devices (at least on some cards) and the application could be told what to use, including sending one source to the front dsp and another to the back dsp, allowing my remote speakers to please my wife while I listened to something else. When ALSA first came out the channels could be changed in a GUI, now one must be root and edit text files to accomplish the same thing. And in a world where laptops are more common all the time, and better hardware is a dock or a plug away, instead of making the process as automated as plugging in a USB keyboard or a network cable. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC12 , DNS Problems
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Jim writes: FC12/KDE I'm having DNS problems. I can't get Firefox to goto linuxtoday.com , lxer.com , or rpmfusion.org , but I can goto yahoo.com , foxnews.com . I have to do in Firefox a about:config and inject network.dns.disableIPv6 to get all websites. I can't use Konqueror WebBrowser and goto linuxtoday.com , lxer.com , or rpmfusion.org, But I can goto yahoo.com , foxnews.com . Doing a http://www. doesn't make any difference in both browsers. I have to make a /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf file and put prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; to get Konqueror Webbrowser to goto all Websites. I have two other FC12 boxes on this local network and have no problems like this. What is the problem in FC12 ? Go into network configuration (system-config-network). Open the properties tab for your network device. If Enable IPv6 configuration for this device is checked, turn it off. I was going to suggest finishing the IPv6 config process, but that works. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Universal drive adapter -
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 12/10/2009 03:28 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/12/09 10:19, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: blkid /dev/sdc1 Ok, thank you, that gives me a bit more information: [r...@box6 bob]# file -s /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: LVM2 (Linux Logical Volume Manager) , UUID: X5Vx9im0hf7hS6Y4WNhdW2ju8heRtUh [r...@box6 bob]# blkid /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: UUID=X5Vx9i-m0hf-7hS6-Y4WN-hdW2-ju8h-eRtUhR TYPE=LVM2_member Is there a way to list directories and files? The drive was configured for use with the logical volume manager (LVM2). You need to use the LVM2 tools to find out what volume group is on the disk and what logical volumes it contains. Then you can activate and mount the devices like any other block device. Have a look at the LVM2 documentation/man pages or how-tos for more information. [___ useful examples and such snipped ___] Thanks, this is a good cheat sheet to give to new (or reluctant) LVM users. Don't know if it helped the OP but I found it useful. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from grub.
Gene Heskett wrote: Greets; Resend as there has been no reply, with added info. I finally said to hell with it and let F12 install itself on /dev/sdb with all its defaults. I was surprised on the reboot when my usual grub menu from /dev/sda was all that showed up, no mention of an F12 install at all. Added: I had it install everything in the options list, but gave it only /dev/sdb to play with in the available disks menu's, use the defaults on /dev/sdb, so it made a 100 meg /boot, using ext4, and a logical volume out of the rest of the drive. I have NDI how to query the filesystem used there, other than trying to mount /dev/sdb1 as ext3 fails. So, since I had blown away a centos install to put F12 on /dev/sdb, I carved up a fresh grub stanza that reads like this and added it to /dev/sda1/grub/grub.conf: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdb3 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=19 fallback=1 timeout=15 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz [...] #21 new stanza title Fedora 12 (2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 from dev/sdb) root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_coyote- lv_root LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64.img which is in fact pasted from the /dev/sdb1/grub/grub.conf except for the initial root (hd1,0) statement. So it looks as if I might have to 'chainloader +1 ' it instead, so how do I do that? I've never done that before. Also, that /dev/sdb1 partition only mounts as ext4 if that is important. Added: I experimentally added a 'chainloader+1' as the next line after the root (hd1,0) in the /dev/sda1/grub/grub.conf, but all that seemed to do was add another 10 second delay before I get the error 13 message. I would have thought from what little I know about grub, that this should force a reload, effectively a grub restart, from the mbr of /dev/sdb. Is there something I need to change in the /dev/sdb1/grub/grub.conf also? If you don't get an answer sooner, when I go to the part of the building where my laptop sits I'll check the stanza I used, as it still has a fallback fc10 present. In the meantime, you can try booting off sdb, using (typically) the F12 key to enter the boot manager. I suspect the boot info is in the MBR of sdb. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Boot error message re mount of loop device
David wrote: Maybe I'm doing something wrong, so I'm asking here first. If no-one points out a better way, I'll file a bug report. Also I'd appreciate guidance where best to file it. During boot I want to mount an iso9660 file as a loop device. The iso file is on a ext3 partition labelled HUGE_01 which is mounted at /mnt/huge. FILE = /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso MOUNTPOINT = /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD. The mount succeeds. However during boot I get this unnecessary failure message: Mounting local filesystems: [ OK ] [snip] Mounting other filesystems: mount: according to mtab /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is already mounted on /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD as loop [ FAILED ] From a user perspective, this error message seems equivalent to: Because we tried unnecessarily to mount this device a second time after it had already mounted successfully, we now report to you that the second attempt failed. So a failure is reported where no failure occurred. Worse, a failure is reported for the reason that it already succeeded. This seems illogical and unnecessary. Unless I'm doing somethin' stoopid. Relevant details are below. Thanks, David # [...@kablamm ~]$ cat /etc/fstab LABEL=kablamm_C / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=kablamm_Z /boot ext2defaults1 2 LABEL=BIG_01/mnt/bigext3defaults1 2 LABEL=HUGE_01 /mnt/huge ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=kablamm_H /home ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=kablamm_S swapswapdefaults0 0 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /mnt/huge/get/iso/Fedora-12-i386-DVD/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora-12-i386-DVD iso9660 loop,ro,gid=share 0 0 There's a secret way to do this, called man fstab. Those numbers at the end of the line are not random, they control the mounting order. So you are trying to mount the DVD file before you mount the filesystem providing the ISO image file. Change the 0 0 to something reasonable, I think 1 3 will work, or 2 1 if it doesn't. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 21:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: What is the rational for demanding that /root be a directory on /, and not a separate partition? See at: http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/pix/root-not-allowed.jpg I would presume that with runlevel 1 (single user mode), that it would be a problem to run as root and root's home directory is not available. Why would it be missing? The /root mount point would be there, the home directory would just be empty, and that's not an issue. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: What is the rational for demanding that /root be a directory on /, and not a separate partition? See at: root's home dir has traditionally been / just to ensure that it is alway present and an emergency login is likely to suceed without error. Putting it in the rootfs instead of, say a /home partition, is just more of the same hedging. Root's home directory is /root for years. I'm too lazy to dig out my remaining V7 system, but I don't think it used / either, I just can't remember, I was doing MULTICS and VMS mostly until SysIII days. Sure, you might be able to get away with putting root on the non-root partition when things are working well, but I suspect you'll be cursing yourself the first time the system coughs up a hairball and can't mount ~root/ and asks you to perform brain surgery on the filesystem. (I do have a few aliases for root that makes life nicer and the anacondia install logs are nice to look at also if one needs to mkfs a trashed fs with the same format flags and repopulate from the last backup. If you keep anything vital to system operation in root's home directory you are in a small minority. The filesystem information is in /etc/fstab, if that's gone you're in a rescue disk boot anyway. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To hyper-thread or not to hyper-thread
Aaron Konstam wrote: I acquired another computer recently that has a Pentium(R) 4 D CPU Dual core that is capable of hyper-threading. I was not satisfied with its performance so I looked carefully at its configuration and found that hyper-threading was disabled. A little more looking and I noticed that hyper-threading was disabled in the BIOS and could not be turned on. So what are my options if I want to enable hyper-threading and is it worth it? One option I assume is to find another BIOS. Are there other options or if it is disabled in the BIOS it is disabled? Another question is how much boost in performance should I expect from the dual core SMB functionality of the CPU? On some loads you win a lot, and my favorite is compiling a kernel. With ht on and -j3 I almost always have two threads not blocked for i/o. That's the good news, the clock time to compile the kernel drops by about 30%. Using older kernels there were cases where the processes run were poorly chosen and there was a small drop in performance on some loads, but current kernels have a smarter scheduler and I would guess that you never see it in normal use and might drop 2% with some specialized test program. Finally, if you run a threaded program where multiple threads communicate via shared memory, ht on will buy you up to 50% more tps, due to elimination of some context switches (vmstat will show this). Servers like dns, mail, or nntp, which have a lot of small processes running the same code will also show up to 20% more tps using ht. Overall I would have it on if you can, it will give you some improvement when multiple things are going on. Just as a caution, I thought only the extreme edition had dual core and ht enabled. If yours is something lesser it has the ht bit on, meaning it reports ht status, but it probably doesn't have the extras enabled. There are rumors that a firmware hack can turn it on, but I have never seen a working example. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade with local repo
idwsh6...@sneakemail.com wrote: I tried to use preupgrade with a modified releases.txt that points to a local repository. But preupgrade is still going to the mirrors over the internet. Does anyone have an example releases.txt that demonstrates how to do preupgrade from a completely local yum repository. Here was my releases.txt that I tried: [Fedora 11 (Leonidas)] stable=True preupgrade-ok=True version=11 baseurl=file:///repo/fedora/releases/11/Everything/$basearch/os/ #mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-11arch=$basearch mirrorlist= #installmirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/$basearch/os installmirrorlist= installurl=file:///repo/fedora/releases/11/Fedora/$basearch/os/ I also tried --disablerepos='*' --enablerepos='mylocal*' (where mylocal* repos are repos that I have added in /etc/yum.repos.d that point to my local copy of the repository). That didn't help either. I'm sure I'm missing something simple, but customizing preupgrade like this is not very well documented that I could see. Any pointers are welcome. There are things in yum like localinstall and localupdate, but I think the solution lies in using the cost parameter for your local repo, set it to about 500 and it should be used before any other. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Preventing mounting of media for a user
FC11 or 12, GNOME. All the options set to not load, mount, browse, etc in Preferences. Still loads the DVD and mounts it. I thought there was a way to prevent this from the GUI. I can kill this with udev, but that applies to all users. Kind of negates the idea of per-user setup. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Wireless disabled with kernel 2.6.31.6-162
Richard England wrote: pro/wireless 2200BG in a Dell Latitude D410. F12 Fully updated (as of 7 December). With Kernel 2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686 the wireless is completely disabled. This was the latest kernel installed. Backing down to kernel 2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 everything returns to normal. This was the immediately preceding kernel I had. Any one confirm this? I looked for a BZ entry but I'm notoriously bad at finding things there Did you have a 3rd party driver installed, like kmod-wl or similar? If so did you update that? Boot your old kernel and see what driver is in use. If it's not a Fedora driver you are on your own. At least people here are polite, LKML is less so on occasion. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can Fedora's QEMU run ppc guest in F12 x86_64 host?
Andre Robatino wrote: On 12/05/2009 08:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Andre Robatino wrote: I've tried to create a F12 ppc guest in a F12 x86_64 host, using F12's Virtual Machine Manager and with qemu-system-ppc installed. It's reading a verified copy of Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso from the HDD. It fails with CDROM boot failure code : 0004 Boot failed: could not read the boot disk FATAL: No bootable device. (Screenshot attached.) At least this is an improvement over F11 which would generate a kernel failure instead. Is this supposed to work? The page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge claims that it is. Were I you, I would take all the virtual dumb it down stuff out of the picture, create a 6GB or so qcow2 device with qemu-img, then run the ppc from the command line: qemu-system-ppc64 -, 1200 -hda mydisk.img -cdrom install.iso -boot d -net nic look at the man page, those may not be exactly what you need for your system. I have found that this works when more convenient tools don't, due either to limitations in the tool or in the doc, or in my understanding. If this works it will point to the need to understand the convient tool better. Good advice, I didn't know how to use QEMU on the command line. I tried making it work in the simplest way possible. The following works with an x86_64 image: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda Fedora_12_x86_64.img -cdrom Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso but the corresponding command for ppc qemu-system-ppc -hda Fedora_12_ppc.img -cdrom Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso fails with the error cd:0,\ppc\chrp\yaboot.conf: Unknown or corrupt filesystem Can't open config file Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.14 (Red Hat 1.3.14-23.fc12) Enter help to get some basic usage information boot: I tried creating the .img file in both qcow2 and the default raw format, and both the qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-ppc64 commands. You need to tell it to boot off the cdrom. That's what the -boot d means. If that doesn't work I'll have to pull down a CD and try it. Also, is that ppc iso 32 or 64 bit? There's a 64 bit qemu as well. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:54:26 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? My one attempt to use a non-trivial usb device resulted in this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524723 Thanks, another avenue closed. Was hoping to get an easy to use video software running. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Mail Lists wrote: On 12/06/2009 11:11 AM, Greg Woods wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: I plan to try Xen at some point but I doubt if it will be any better. I suspect Xen is dying/dead and not well supported now ... at least kms is in upstream kernel, and VB has sun (or whoever!) keeping the kernel modules updated. I have no idea what gave you that idea, the kernel mailing list indicates that dom0 support is coming nicely, although probably won't make mainline in 2.6.33. But it still appears to be on the path to the mainline kernel, as bits get ready. The original issue was that xen was too pervasive IIRC, and it's certainly in RHEL which I run on several P4 machines. As to xen or KVM on non-x86_xx hardware, I have no idea. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 16:11:11 Greg Woods wrote: I'm guessing I could set up a VM that has a real IP address rather than using NAT, but the GUIs don't generally support this and I haven't yet learned how to create a VM or a virtual network from the command line. If I did that I could possibly sync to a VM via wireless instead of USB, but this is now wandering far from the original question. In VirtualBox you set this up as follows: * open VirtualBox * open the settings window for your VM * go to network, open the appropriate adapter tab (typically the first one) * set the attached to setting to bridged adapter * click OK This sets up bridged networking for your VM --- it will behave on equal footing as the host OS itself, ie. it will request an IP from your router's dhcp (or whatever your host OS uses to set itself up). Depending on your ISP and local network setup, it should have a real IP as much as your host does, and will be visible from any other machine on your LAN. I don't remember how to do it under KVM/QEMU and VMWare, but it should also amount of choosing bridged networking somewhere in some settings. You can do it from cli using kvm. I'm writing this on a VM with most definitely it's own IP, etc. Started from cli, I was doing KVM before libvirt and friends and haven't converted. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can Fedora's QEMU run ppc guest in F12 x86_64 host?
Andre Robatino wrote: I've tried to create a F12 ppc guest in a F12 x86_64 host, using F12's Virtual Machine Manager and with qemu-system-ppc installed. It's reading a verified copy of Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso from the HDD. It fails with CDROM boot failure code : 0004 Boot failed: could not read the boot disk FATAL: No bootable device. (Screenshot attached.) At least this is an improvement over F11 which would generate a kernel failure instead. Is this supposed to work? The page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge claims that it is. Were I you, I would take all the virtual dumb it down stuff out of the picture, create a 6GB or so qcow2 device with qemu-img, then run the ppc from the command line: qemu-system-ppc64 -, 1200 -hda mydisk.img -cdrom install.iso -boot d -net nic look at the man page, those may not be exactly what you need for your system. I have found that this works when more convenient tools don't, due either to limitations in the tool or in the doc, or in my understanding. If this works it will point to the need to understand the convient tool better. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I had understood the complexity to be the separate /boot not the use of lvm... Actually, the complexity is that Fedora for some insane reason still defaults to using LVM for everything *other* than /boot. This brings no benefit to most users. +2 -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:45 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I had understood the complexity to be the separate /boot not the use of lvm... Actually, the complexity is that Fedora for some insane reason still defaults to using LVM for everything *other* than /boot. This brings no benefit to most users. Well, it means I can have separate filesystems for things that I don't want overwritten if I reinstall (/home, /usr/local, /opt, /var/www, etc.) and I can dynamically resize them if they get unbalanced. That's pretty useful. Someone else mentioned the limited number of physical and logical partitions. If you want separate partitions for those systems and for, say, separate system and user data on a dual-boot machine with Windows, and multiboot, and a diagnostics partition, those partitions can get used up pretty quickly. Have a big /boot and you can have many kernels available. During the 2.5 development cycles, between 2.4, 2.5, -ac, -mm, -aa, etc kernels I hit the limit of LILO to support more than 19 (from memory) kernels. Sane people don't have these problems. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? Some devices are simply not usefully supported at the application level in Linux, although the drivers are fine. Therefore the need to run an app, preferably in a VM rather than under wine (if that would even work). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
Chris wrote:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:48:50 -0500
fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:53:14PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Could you explain a little more what you are trying to do?
If you're just trying to change the wallpaper, what happens when
you just use the standard menu to do that? Or are you trying to do
something more?
What behavior do you get when you (from memory)
system-preferences-appearance-background-add-{select a
file} and if by default you mean system wide, the [make default]
button may help
As the subject says, he's trying to change the background for the
GDM screen. Since GDM doesn't provide a panel, there isn't really a
convenient way to browse to system-preferences-appearance... :)
Using gconftool-2 is generally the best way to achieve this, and
works fine for me on F-12 (as it has in past releases). Why it's
not working for Fred remains to be seen.
As Todd says, I'd like to change the GDM (login) screen wallpaper. I
had accidentally stumbled into that in F10, and never really knew how
I had done it (but liked the image it ended up with so I left it.)
but then my SSD went bad and when I got it back from repair I
installed F11 and never pursued this, but now that I've done an
update to F12 I'd like to change the image again. I thought that
choosing make default in the tool Bill suggests would do it, but it
doesn't. so I've also tried the command (shown in earlier emails in
this thread but somehow purged from this one) using gconftool-2 and
it didn't work either.
i've put the image in /usr/share/backgrounds/images, but a lot of the
discussion I've seen of this just say /usr/share/backgrunds, so is
it possible that it should not go in any of hte subdirs there? doesn't
seem to make sense, as I specified the full path to the file when I
ran gconftool-2.
It's apparent that even after the above is spelled out, users still
can't read. The Op is speaking of the Gnome Login background (GNOME
LOGIN BACKGROUND)...
NOT the users DESKTOP BACKGROUND.
Un Effin' believable...
As several of us have noted, this seems to work for us. The OP may have
something else blocking this, or a high uptime, since I think you have to
restart GDM.
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Re: Problem with using wireless usb adapter
Brian Wood wrote: Bill Davidsen writes: Brian Wood wrote: I'm having some trouble getting internet/ssh working over a Linksys wireless usb adapter -- model WUSB54GSC. I did get it working one time, but don't know why or if I did something to make it work. I see the access point I want to use and connect to it. That seems to work. Then iwconfig reports lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan2 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:brian Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:1C:10:3B:06:97 Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr=2346 B Link Quality=57/100 Signal level=57/100 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 But bringing up a URL or ssh'ing to another machine doesn't work. I'm using Fedora 12. If I use an ethernet cable instead of the wireless, everything works fine. Any ideas on what to check or do? I see two things here, one is that there is no IP on that wlan2, indicating that it is connected but not routed. The other is that it's wlan2 insteadl of wlan0, indicating that something is going on, since even with the built-in (802.11g) and plug-in (802.11n) NICs, I have wlan0 and wlan1, so they always do start and zero and go consecutively. Try: - dhclient wlan2 - netstat -r and post the results. I would expect you will get connections after that. Hi, Bill, Unfortunately I've not been able to get it working yet. dhclient didn't output anything. The netstat -r output: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.50.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan2 default 192.168.50.10.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 wlan2 Your dmesg output should have information of why that's wlan2, please read and report. Here's the result of dmesg | grep wlan: [__snip__] I am now out of immediate ideas. Can you ping the AP? The 192.168.50.1 address? If you can it suggests that your packets reach the AP and either aren't forwarded (AP config issue) or are handled right at the next hop. You might try a traceroute, although many routers and APs are configured to ignore ping to prevent unwanted mapping of the network. That might help security but it sure makes debugging network issues hard! If traceroute shows anything let us know. I assume other things on the AP work, and it's not a config issue overall. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected
Rajan, S. (Sanya) wrote: -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jatin K Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:21 AM To: Community assistance,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected Dear all I'm Using Dell Vostro 1520 Laptop and have installed Fedora Core 12 x86_64 .. my problem is like that if laptop runs on battery power it works fine , as soon as I connect AC adopter to charge the battery laptop hangs after 10 to 15 minutes what could be the wrong ??? It could be caused by the laptop running at a higher performance level when on AC power, which causes the problem to manifest. Have you tried running memtest while on AC power? First, that's a bizarre thought, but you certainly could be right. My thoughts, also unlikely: - attach the power connection before powering on (connection glitch issue) - attach charger and fully charge before powering on (Battery fully charged pop-up issue) - repeat the test in 32 bit (Live-CD, not reinstall) I'm happy to offer thoughts, but happier that I don't have the problem. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KVM reboot fails
Seann Clark wrote: All, I have been searching google for about two weeks, and looking over everything else and I just can't figure this out, so I am polling on the greater combined experience of the list to help me out with this. I have recently set up a virtual machine under KVM, which runs fine on my system. The problem is, I can't reboot the system, nor can it reboot itself. The Guest is running Windows 2008 Standard, and instead of shutting down, or rebooting, after it is all done, it goes to a BSOD, which only happens when it is trying to reboot. If I try to do this from virsh I get the error: libvir: error : this function is not supported by the hypervisor: virDomainReboot The host running the VM's is fedora 9 64 bit edition, that I haven't gotten around to upgrading yet (patch management is EOL, or very close to EOL, so upgrading is something I have been working on getting done) virsh is version 0.5.1 and qemu-kvm is version 0.9.1 (kvm-65). Outside of sucking it up and upgrading, which is what I figure would need to be done, I would like to try to understand why this is having a problem. If I can fix this, I can take my time and fix other issues that are preventing me from upgrading properly instead of being rushed. You call this a KVM issue, but you mention libvir, indicating that you have the libvirt stuff in play. If you can try running the image from the cli qemu-kvm, you might find that it works. That's not a solution, but a data point for another post. It is possible to download newer KVM code and upgrade only that, I have an FC6 machine running a slightly more recent kernel I built from kernel.org code, with the kvm in use at fc10 time. That's not necessarily easier than sucking it up and upgrading particularly if you don't regularly build kernels. I have a device needing a closed source driver not available for recent kernels. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rkhunter warning after updating
Andy Blanchard wrote: 2009/11/30 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: Sure, that works fine if you are willing to keep up to date on security updates on those applications and update your config each time one changes in fedora. I did say that I like to know when things change, hence the inclusion of the version numbers. That approach also works very well if you need to keep a package at a certain revision for some reason as including its specific version in rkhunter.conf would provide a warning should an update ever be applied by mistake, or a default package be installed instead of a custom build for that matter. That's definitely not appropriate for a dynamic distribution like Fedora, although maybe something like Debian Stable or Red Hat where version numbers don't change much could get away with it. For the out of box package that would result in pushing an update to rkhunter anytime any of those updated and there could be lag between the updates and when someone applied the rkhunter one. That's a good point about the lag and it would be a problem, but then again it wouldn't be the only package in Fedora that needed to be updated in response to changes to another, apparently unrelated one; Yelp and Firefox for instance. For a more general package distribution it would definitely be better to either disable the checks or just push the RKHunter package with a whitelist of problematic applications without the version numbers, for instance: APP_WHITELIST=gpg httpd named sshd... Wow, a list of things I really don't want to change and an evil doer might like to change. Whitelisting is kind of like taking the battery out of the smoke detector, it stops the noise but loses the warning. Short term I'd rather manually verify the checksums of the new packages, and long term, if Kevin doesn't push a new list, you can build it yourself. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with using wireless usb adapter
Brian Wood wrote: I'm having some trouble getting internet/ssh working over a Linksys wireless usb adapter -- model WUSB54GSC. I did get it working one time, but don't know why or if I did something to make it work. I see the access point I want to use and connect to it. That seems to work. Then iwconfig reports lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan2 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:brian Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:1C:10:3B:06:97 Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr=2346 B Link Quality=57/100 Signal level=57/100 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 But bringing up a URL or ssh'ing to another machine doesn't work. I'm using Fedora 12. If I use an ethernet cable instead of the wireless, everything works fine. Any ideas on what to check or do? I see two things here, one is that there is no IP on that wlan2, indicating that it is connected but not routed. The other is that it's wlan2 insteadl of wlan0, indicating that something is going on, since even with the built-in (802.11g) and plug-in (802.11n) NICs, I have wlan0 and wlan1, so they always do start and zero and go consecutively. Try: - dhclient wlan2 - netstat -r and post the results. I would expect you will get connections after that. Your dmesg output should have information of why that's wlan2, please read and report. Also in a separate matter ... [_...snip..._] -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
