is suspend broken?
When I bought my laptop, it was shipped with a cubbi-suspend2 kernel and the fglrx driver and ran under FC6.i386. suspend worked for me on the shipped configuration. When I upgraded to F9.x86_64, I no longer needed the cubbi-suspend2 kernel (now called tuxonice), and suspend worked really well. I was still using the fglrx video driver. Now that I'm running F11.x86_64, there is no fglrx (or catalyst) driver for my video, and suspend no longer works for me. There are no errors listed in my pm-suspend.log, in fact, the last thing in this file claims that it is performing suspend. However, my system never powers down and never enters the suspend mode (with the flashing power LED indicator). It remains powered on. The only way to get the system back is to lean on the power button until the system powers down. The power LED is then off. The only way to power back up is to touch the power button again, and after which the system goes through a complete cold start and reboots from scratch. When it is properly suspended, I should be able to touch any key to resume from suspend back to a running system. Can anyone please tell me what (obvious thing) I'm missing? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 01:53 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the network work. I tried restarting networking, ifconfig down and then up again, but nothing I've tried will make the network come back. Glad to see that you can at least suspend. suspend never completes for me. I can't get there to see if I can resume or not. I've been assuming it's a kernel bug, but haven't gotten it together to report it. Does anyone else have this problem? A workaround? I'm in the same boat, I haven't reported any bug yet, but I will have time this weekend to play with it. Don Quixote -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 03:10 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote: Not sure if this will help, but you can try. I have a Lenovo T60 with some ATI graphics card and the standard radeon driver. Suspend only works if the system is booted with a nomodeset option. I don't quite recall what went wrong when trying suspend on a modesetting kernel, but it never worked. Bingo! Obvious work-around found! That was it! When I add nomodeset to the grub kernel line, it suspends resumes just fine. Thanks! That saves me from mucking with the suspend configuration (which now doesn't need mucking with)! BTW, as far as I remember, when suspended, the machine only wakes up when the laptop lid is opened - pressing keys does not wake it up. Nope, a key-press worked fine for me. HTH, It did indeed. Thanks! Peter Is this still broken in F12? If so, it should be in the release notes since its obviously also broken in F11 -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 06:34 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the network work. I should mention that with the amount of RAM installed in my machine - 16 GB - suspend isn't really all that useful because of the amount of time it takes to write the contents of memory to disk when suspending, and to read it back in when waking up. It takes just about as long as it would to just do a shutdown and reboot. That would be hibernate or suspend to disk. I was talking about suspend to RAM. The whole point of suspend to RAM is that not much needs to be written to disk during suspend, and not much needs to be done upon resume to continue. Its supposed to be fast already, certainly faster than shutting down and rebooting. The one situation I'd want to use shutdown instead is if I had a bunch of windows open that I don't want to lose, and I need to leave the machine for such a long time that I don't want to use all the electricity. There is a newer suspend to both which is designed to suspend to RAM but also sets up suspend to disk just in case the machine is off long enough to exhaust the battery and loses the RAM, in which case it can be recovered from disk. Don Quixote -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 06:54 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote: HTH, It did indeed. Thanks! Peter Is this still broken in F12? If so, it should be in the release notes since its obviously also broken in F11 Glad I could be of help. BTW, this was also broken in Fedora 10. grumble. (Which my laptop also missed.) This problem definitely needs to be mentioned in the release notes for nomodeset. It breaks functionality. My home server will soon be leapfrogging from F10 to either F12 or F13 (depends on when I actually get around to doing it). My laptop will remain on F11 until after that. Peter Thanks again Peter! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 10:16 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I have not found a list of outbound mx servers for the new domains. So, look at your email headers (yes, it may not be a complete list, and it may not be definitive due to the move not being complete, but) I just went through this entire thread and they all arrived from the *same* email server: from mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com (mx1-phx2.redhat.com [209.132.183.26]) If yours match, it looks like a good starting place. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ati drivers f12
On 01/07/2010 07:30 AM, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I have Dell laptop with ati radeon X1200 Series. With f8, there was an flgrx driver which seems to no mere exists with f12? Am I right, or did I miss something? fglrx has been renamed catalyst, and support was dropped for a large number of older cards (your x1200 and my Mobility X1600 included) in the newest version. I know that the nVidia drivers are supported with at least 3 legacy versions, but I haven't been able to find anyone supporting the legacy version of fglrx on the newer kernels, which makes it pretty much worthless (I had no problems with it on F9, but it does not exist for F11 either). Try and see if the radeon or radeonhd driver picks up the slack for you. They are free open-source drivers and might surprise you. I am running the radeon driver on my laptop, and the only thing it lacks is sufficient support to run googleearth properly (trying to run googleearth with the radeon driver on my hardware locks up machine, solid). The last time I tried the radeonhd driver, it did not yet have support for 3D for my Mobility X1600but that was a while ago. Thanks for answering. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
On 01/06/2010 10:35 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com: Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ? Does this sound like a kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive.. I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora. Can someone verify its spelling/existence ? yum search palimpsest Thanks -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: teardrop compiling installation,
On 12/31/2009 11:07 AM, Vincent Onelli wrote:
Hello,
I download compressed file bert-pcb-plogins-17755b2.tar.gz
decompressed generate a directory bert-pcb-plugins-17755b2. I cd to
bert-pcb-plugins-17755b2/src which is where I found teardrops.c file
then entered the suggested command gcc ... the follow is the result:
[vi...@laptop src]$ gcc -I$HOME/geda/pcb-cvs/src -I$HOME/geda/pcb-cvs
-02 -shared teardrops.c -o teardrops.so
gcc: unrecognized option '-02'
teardrops.c:13:20: error: global.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:14:18: error: data.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:15:17: error: hid.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:16:18: error: misc.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:17:20: error: create.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:18:19: error: rtree.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:19:18: error: undo.h: No such file or directory
teardrops.c:21: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’
before ‘pin’
teardrops.c:24: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’
before ‘silk’
teardrops.c:29: error: expected ‘;’, ‘,’ or ‘)’ before ‘*’ token
teardrops.c:151: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘_pin’
teardrops.c: In function ‘teardrops’:
teardrops.c:175: error: ‘silk’ undeclared (first use in this function)
teardrops.c:175: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
teardrops.c:175: error: for each function it appears in.)
teardrops.c:175: error: ‘PCB’ undeclared (first use in this function)
teardrops.c:181: error: ‘via’ undeclared (first use in this function)
teardrops.c:183: error: ‘END_LOOP’ undeclared (first use in this
function)
teardrops.c:187: error: ‘pin’ undeclared (first use in this function)
teardrops.c:189: error: ‘ENDALL_LOOP’ undeclared (first use in this
function)
teardrops.c:191: error: ‘gui’ undeclared (first use in this function)
teardrops.c: At top level:
teardrops.c:199: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’
before ‘teardrops_action_list’
teardrops.c: In function ‘REGISTER_ACTIONS’:
teardrops.c:208: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’
before ‘{’ token
teardrops.c:210: error: expected ‘{’ at end of input
[vi...@laptop src]$
Obviously, I am doing some thing wrong. I am stuck, help.
Look for a Makefile. Its usually the place to start. The usual script
of commands would be:
make configure
make
make install
(OK, the 3rd might have to be sudo make install)
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Re: New Chromium for x86_64?
On 12/24/2009 11:15 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Starting tonight, my F11.x86_64 system wants to update my chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc11.x86_64 with: chromium-4.0.277.0-0.1.20091221svn35107.fc11.i586 Why is there no new package for x86_64? chromium-4.0.277.0-0.1.20091221svn35107.fc11.x86_64 updated today Thank-you! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
New Chromium for x86_64?
Starting tonight, my F11.x86_64 system wants to update my chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc11.x86_64 with: chromium-4.0.277.0-0.1.20091221svn35107.fc11.i586 Why is there no new package for x86_64? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????
On 12/22/2009 05:43 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: Have you disabled Keep messages for this account on this computer for every account? This option is in the Synchronization Storage tab for the account. The default is on, unfortunately. Yes, its on for me, but looking at the advanced button shows that 2 of my sub-folders are off, and I don't remember setting them to off, and both folders that are on and the 2 that are off exhibit the problem for me -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
WTF is wrong with thunderbird????
OK, so I'm an email hog. I don't like to use the delete key. Here's my setup: My email server is F10.i386 (yeah, yeah, I know its EOLed) Its up-to-date, running dovecot as my IMAP server. My laptop is F11.x86_64. I'm running the new thunderbird 3.0 which was just released. My Inbox was getting very large. 70,000 messages in it. While things were starting to take a long time to do, yesterday I finally decided to do something about it. I created some 25 (or so) sub-folders in my primary email account and set about transferring various emails from my Inbox to the sub-folders. For the most part, I created an email filter for every email list I am a member of to automatically move emails from each list to its own sub-folder. It took me a while ( 4 hours). When I was done it was working. Kinda. I noticed that I had started seeing some really strange problems. While reading my incoming fedora-list emails (for example), thunderbird marked the email I was currently reading as un-read, right before my eyes! It also marked the 3 emails I had *just* read as unread. While going though that mailbox (using the Next button to read the next unread email), I read some messages 3-4 times before it finally told me I had read everything! That's when I started to notice that all of a sudden I had 38 unread emails in the mailbox I had read previous to the one I was in now. When I went back to read them, most of them were familiar! I had just read them. I wss going nuts. What's happening? This morning I st down to read my emails that occurred overnight. Thunderbird tells me I have 38 unread emails in my Admin box. When I go there to read them, it tells me there are only 24 unread emails! The first one is dated 9/26/2009! OK, so I read it. I'm pretty sure I've read it before I continue to read the other 23 emails. Then I hit the Next button again, and here I am back at this email from 9/26 again! While I'm writing this email, thunderbird now tells me I have 4 unread emails in my Admin mailbox. One of them is new. The rest are dated: 5/4/2009, 9/26/2009 (yeup, them same one I've read twice already today!), and 10/11/2009, and 10/11/2009. That's right, while I was reading them, it decided to mark another already read email as unread! Am I going nuts Oh, wait! I have 4 unread email in Admin: 5/4/2009, 9/26/2009, and those 2 from 10/11/2009 again! Now its happened again! Please, someone tell me how to get thunderbird to stop this madness! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Earth locks up system
On 12/21/2009 10:53 AM, Steven Stern wrote: Since I'm not sure when, Google Earth completely locks up my system, requiring a power cycle to restart. I see the splash screen, the it starts to display a tip-of-the-day, then plonk. System locked. I have an old ATI card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] using the standard radeon driver. There are no messages regarding the crash/lock in /var/log/messages. The crash does not seem to be related to compiz. The crash is well known, and has been around for a long time (since at least FC6). AFAIK, there are no plans to fix it. You could try the radeonhd driver or run one of the ATI proprietary drivers (fglrx or catalyst, but I never had any luck with them, and I'm not sure if they work with F12 yet or not). GoogleEarth really wants to use your cards 3D support and for ATI it is broken. The result is a hard lockup of your X session/keyboard/mouse/system. Your system is borked. You can't even ssh into it. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????
On 12/21/2009 05:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora. After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into close to being unbearable/unusable. Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is: dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else. Me neither. I had none of these problems with the betas. Then again, I wasn't using mail filters then either. Now I am, and I'm also running the new TB3. My server has been running dovecot-1.2.8-4.0.cf (I've been putting off the atrpms 1.2.9 update hoping that city-fan would also put a 1.2.9 up for update.) The only *recent* change has been the new TB3 and the mail filters. Ralf -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????
On 12/21/2009 07:59 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/22/2009 01:23 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 12/21/2009 05:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Welcome to the club - You seem to be facing the same issues as I have been facing ever since the TB3 betas hit Fedora. After things had somewhat smoothed since the inital Fedora release, with TB-3.0 (final) last week, things once again turn into close to being unbearable/unusable. Unfortunately, I don't know if who the culprit actually is: dovecot, TB3 or x86_64 or else. Me neither. I had none of these problems with the betas. Then again, I wasn't using mail filters then either. Now I am, and I'm also running the new TB3. My server has been running dovecot-1.2.8-4.0.cf (I've been putting off the atrpms 1.2.9 update hoping that city-fan would also put a 1.2.9 up for update.) The only *recent* change has been the new TB3 and the mail filters. Are you running thunderbird on the same machine as dovecot or are they running on separate machines? Separate. The server is an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ running F10.i386. The laptop is running F11.x86_64. In my setup, I usually run thunderbird and dovecot-imap on the same x86_64 machine. Throughout yesterday, I worked on a different, i386-machine accessing dovecot-imap on my x86_64-machine, and haven't observed one these issues (yet?). Ralf -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WTF is wrong with thunderbird????
On 12/21/2009 10:36 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/21/2009 09:29 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Ralf This could be a GLODA bug ... please confirm it is off and of not try turning GLODA off and see if that helps. Edit - Preferences - Advanced General Unselect GLobal Indexing Not using it. (ie, its already off) -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new thunderbird lost all my calendar events
On 12/18/2009 02:40 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I updated my F12 system today and a new version of thunderbird and thunderbird-lightning were downloaded. When I started up TB and brought up my calendar all the events I had previously scheduled were gone! Is there anyway to restore them? Is your local calendar enabled or disabled? Mine was disabled due to an error. A solution was posted here in the last few days. It involves running sqlite3 ~/.thunderbird/*.default/local.sqlite and issuing 4 commands to correct your database: See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542736 it worked for me. Paolo -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: another thunderbird bug
On 12/18/2009 03:20 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: When I click on View settings for this account link on the thunderbird main page it brings up the account settings dialog box. If I click on servr settings, junk settings, or any other option except Copies and Folders I get the appropriate dialog. Once I click on Copies and Folders I remain stuck on that dialog no matter what other dialog I click on. I have to cancel and select the account settings link again if I want to change other settings. Works fine for me on F11.x86_64. Questions: Were you running Thunderbird when you updated it? Did you restart it after the update completed? (Firefox and Thunderbird are notorious for getting lost in their Chrome stuff if its updated while they are running.) What does Help/About Thunderbird show for your version? Also in the frame on the left side where it shows my email accounts and local folders if I click on any of them I get the following error Error: uncaught exception: unable to find folder to select! The problem is the email account that is shown is, e.g. pgalti...@gmail.com mailto:pgalti...@gmail.com The account folder name is actually pop.gmail.com http://pop.gmail.com This is all worked just fine with the previous version of thunderbird. Even when I click on Local Folders it doesn't show my local folders. All this sounds like you are still running the old thunderbird with the new stuff installed. Kill it, and try running the new one again. Is there anyway to download the previous version of thunderbird? Yes, but knowing your current version numbers would be helpful. yum supports downgrading. If you can find the previous RPM, you can downgrade to it. Paolo -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: physical RAM restriction in Fedora 12 (32 bit and 64 bit)
On 12/17/2009 12:51 PM, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, AFAIK, in windows 7, **32 bit**, there is a limit of 3GB physical RAM which can be recognized by the operating system. This means that if you have 4GB of RAM, only 3 will be used. This is usually a BIOS limitation. My question is: 1) In Fedora 12 32 bit default installation , does the kernel knows more than 3 GB of RAM ? what is the limit ? The same. It uses what the BIOS tell it is available, unless you run a PAE kernel. The Physical Address Extensions allow you to address the full amount of your RAM. 2) In Fedora 12 64 bit default installation , does the kernel knows more than 3 GB of RAM ? what is the limit ? 64-bit does not have the artificial limitation (the actual limit is *much* higher than you can currently put in a machine today) that 32-bit does. You should see the same with Windows too. Rgs, Mark -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
On 12/17/2009 08:29 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/17/2009 04:33 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: There must be a way to save/export/import Thunderbirds email files when going from F-11 to F-12! I have never been able to do this despite suggestions to simply move the Thunderbirds Mail files. Every six months or so I lose all the mail when I upgrade Fedora and reinstall Thunderbirds, WHile you can usually re-use your .thunderbird directory, one should never save any email in thunderbird local format in my view. I use TB coz I still thinks its the best of a bunch. A far, far better way than using local TB storage, is to simply run a local imap server (dovecot works really well) and use that. The major advantages are (i) You are now essentially indifferent to what mail client you use - and its simple quick to change between different mail clients. (ii) TB local storage (mbox format) was designed in the 70's ... and it has long since been replaced by far far safer, faster and superior formats. mbox format is a single large file - so if you delete a message in the middle, it doesn't actually delete it (too slow) until you compress it. Using a modern format (like maildir++) never needs compression and the risk of corruption is gone. [MS outmook uses a similar approach - and they have similar problems - corrupted mail files. There is a small cottage industry of repair programs which attempt to recover mails from a corrpted outlook.pst file! ] And remember to turn off GLODA too in tb 3 or you're in for all kinds of gigabyte files and slow to start and run tb. What is GLODA and where does one look to turn it off? good luck! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.
On 12/15/2009 02:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: Question is asked in Feb 2006 ...!! :-) Which would have been the correct timeframe for moving an FC3 system to FC4. At that time FC5 was the new release. I know, I had a system which had to jump from FC3 to FC5 after FC3 hit EOL. Dear Mr. William please check the date of you computer Stranger things have happened. Perhaps it was lost in a machine that has only recently been rebootedand its sendmail queue finally got flushed? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Chrome repo now available
On 12/09/2009 11:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 08:36 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: The repo is installed when installing the new, officially supported Chrome beta from http://www.google.com/chrome/index.htm Anyone know how this relates to the existing Chromium version, which also has its own repo? The version numbers of the current Chromium is slightly higher than Chrome's, but the Google page doesn't mention Chromium and the Chromium page doesn't mention this latest release. Looks like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. It gets even better. I now have both a google repo and a google-chrome repo. According to yum list all: google-chrome-beta.x86_64 4.0.249.30-33928installed google-chrome-unstable.x86_64 4.0.249.30-33928google huh? so I looked at both repo files: # more /etc/yum.repos.d/google*.repo :: /etc/yum.repos.d/google-chrome.repo :: [google-chrome] name=google-chrome baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64 enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 :: /etc/yum.repos.d/google.repo :: [google] name=Google - $basearch baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/$basearch gpgkey=https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 Looks like the same repo to me! poc -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Chrome repo now available
On 12/09/2009 11:53 AM, Steven Stern wrote: I have just the google-chrome repo. Did you have a previously existing google repo? Yes. Quality Software, tastefully presented. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
I just wanted to add my recent experience with the new F12 kernel A couple of days ago, I had a PF in my area (due to the snowstorm, I imagine). My F12 machine (the one *not* on a UPS, yet) remained down for a couple of days. This morning, noting last night's updates, I rebooted it (so I could update it!). I used ssh and updated over the network using yum. (I really wanted to see the reboot hell.) B^) I just went to reboot it. Since I wasn't logged into the console, I used the GDM reboot button to reboot the system. While it was shutting down, it just hung. That's when I noticed the caps-lock and scroll-lock leds flashing in unison. Oh, cool, I thought, a kernel panic! When it rebooted, it booted the new kernel: kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686 (I had been running kernel-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 when it paniced). The machine booted OK for me. My surprise was when I went to look in /var/log/messages, there was no mention of a kernel panic! The last message was of smartd terminating. Followed by the reboot of the new kernel. So, what happened? Did my system panic? If so, why no message in /var/log/messages? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dialup PPPD with Network Manager in F12
On 12/04/2009 04:10 AM, David wrote: I'm seeking advice on the use of plain old dialup pppd and Network Manager. My internet access is provided by 56kbit/s dialup modem on /dev/ttyS0 on a desktop pc which also has an ethernet NIC that gives CUPS, backup, NFS, internet services to another notebook pc. DSL is not available here due to poor line quality. I currently have dialup pppd working in Fedora 9. Back then I was not able to find a comprehensive or current Howto but I did get it working by reading widely and manually editing these files /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/resolv.conf /etc/host.conf /etc/ppp/pap-secrets /etc/ppp/peers/my_isp (wvdial with --remotename --chat options) /etc/ppp/options /etc/ppp/my_chat_script /etc/wvdial.conf Back then I uninstalled F9 Network Manager because it seemed that it and/or system-config-network was interfering with some of the above files. I now want to progress to Fedora 12. I will do a clean installation. So I'm just asking here first to see if there is a better way than my previous approach above. I noticed that NetworkManager in F12 included Wireless Broadband support, I hoped that it might also be useable for plain old dialup. I found a reference: http://www.linux.co.uk/docs/center/how-to/how-to-get-online-with-3g-broadband that it looks possible to specify the modem device port somewhere in NetworkManager. However I am unable to find anywhere to do this in F12 Network Manager Applet 0.7.996. Maybe the manual configuration option was dropped in favour of the wizard approach. Let me preface my answers with: 1) My main server is still running F10 2) I haven't had to use dialup for 8+ years now My questions are: I need to use pppd via /dev/ttyS0 dialup modem in Fedora 12. 1) Should I disable Network Manager ? Probably in earlier fedora releases. I'm not sure about now. 2) Or is there a way to have Network Manager cooperate with serial device modem connections ? NetworkMangler should work with any device that it can control. I'm not sure how it controls serial dialup. 3) Is Network Manager likely to have this capability in future ? Or is it considered obsolete ? Back in the day, I installed a daemon called diald (dial-deamon). Its sole purpose was to sit in the background and wait for traffic being sent to ppp0, then check to see it the interface was up, if not, it would dial the connection to your ISP for you (seamlessly). If you were lucky, your connection attempt wouldn't time out before your link came up and all would be well. It would shut it down after a predetermined period of in-activity. Kinda like NetworkManager wants to do today. I just checked, and the same RPM as I have installed is still available on SourceForge: diald-1.0-1.i386.rpm I suspect that you might have to do a little work to make a x86_64 version And you might have to do something to NetworkMangler to keep it from getting in the way. 4) Have I overlooked any Howto that assists with use of pppd with serial device modems on F12 ? Not that I'm aware of, but, pppd is a dinosaur these days with Wi-Fi, DSL, Hi-speed Cable modems, etc and may be forgotten. In my Gnome session, I can go to System-Administration-Network and create a new Network connection. One of the selections is Modem. Perhaps this is the way to go? If you create it, will NetworkMangler see it? Thanks David -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On 12/04/2009 07:49 PM, Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: Because you can only have a max of 15 partitions on a disk without using LVM? The maximum number is 24, not 15. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#Extended_partition_and_logical_drives SCSI limits it to 15, and last I looked, Fedora was using SCSI drivers to talk to ATA disks these days -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qmmp x86_64 dependency problem
On 12/03/2009 10:46 AM, Mikkel wrote: Have others run into the problem where the qmmp x86_64 update wants to drag in a bunch of .i686 packages as dependencies when you try to upgrade it? I already have all the 64 bit equivalents installed and the installed qmmp 64 bit package works fine. I don't see that on f11.X86_64. I don't currently have qmmp installed. When I try and do yum install qmmp, the only package it wants to install is qmmp.x86_64 0:0.2.3-4.fc11. Perhaps something else is causing the dependencies you are seeing? Mikkel -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
On 12/03/2009 05:04 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote: When trying to read a NTFS preformatted USB drive I am getting a message not supported by the system. This is under Red Hat 5.4 enterprise. When reading about workarounds I gather tha fedora and RedHat do not support the format but there is a way to update the kernel to be NTFS compatible. yum list \*ntfs\* Can anyone offer some help on how to fix this problem for Redhat 5.4 and/or Fedora FC10 running under X86_64?? You'd be surprised Daniel J Celta -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility
On 12/03/2009 06:29 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote: David, Maybe the problem is Red Hat Not sure why !?? I will try FC10 tonight at home. The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4 Any idea why? This is a fedora email list, not RHEL. The answer I gave was for F10. The RPMs you want exist in updates and fedora repos Sent from my iPhone Daniel J Celta Cell - 561 307 0974 Office - 713 230 3087 -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: provider for google calendar
On 12/03/2009 07:30 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/12/3 oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.com: so I'm on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out that that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot be installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or what?). Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, turns out some good people did package it and put in repository. But it is useless for me without the Provider for google calendar. And this one is not packaged and cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, does anybody have similar problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can point me to some how to recompile Provider for google calendar blog article? I use both lightning and google calendars on Fedora 11 x86_64. Please check before you curse. Right now I'm at work, I 'll post back with the packages you need to install when I am home. Maybe someone will post that information before I return from work. GL I got my last F11 copy (that I've needed) from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/gdata-provider.xpi and that was last August! F11 is currently running thunderbird-3.0-2.8.b4.fc11.x86_64 You can get the lightning RPM from the RPMFusion repo. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Audacity playback doesn't work for me
Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. Discovered that I couldn't play the .mp3 file due to the following error: Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device settings and the project sample rate. The errors in the terminal session look like (lot's of them!): Expression 'parameters-channelCount = maxChans' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 915 Expression 'ValidateParameters( outputParameters, hostApi, StreamDirection_Out )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 1133 These seem similar to an F8 bug that was closed as NOTABUG: 449012 This is F11.x86_64 My audacity playback devices number 3: ALSA: HDA Intel: Si3054 Modem (hw0,6) ALSA: modem ALSA: phoneline I have 6 possible recording devices: ALSA: HDA Intel: ALC883 Analog(hw0,0) ALSA: HDA Intel: ALC883 Analog(hw0,2) ALSA: HDA Intel: Si3054 Modem (hw0,6) ALSA: modem ALSA: phoneline OSS: /dev/dsp I suspect that I need to somehow add my ALC883 (hw0,0) device to my audacity playback configuration. Can anyone tell me *how* to do that? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 01:05 AM, David Timms wrote: On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? audacity-freeworld-1.3.7-0.6.1.beta.fc11.x86_64 -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audacity playback doesn't work for me
On 11/26/2009 02:30 AM, David Timms wrote: On 11/26/2009 05:43 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 11/26/2009 01:05 AM, David Timms wrote: On 11/26/2009 03:16 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Long story short: Got a new cell phone Tried to use audacity-freeworld to edit a .mp3 file down to a ringtone. So which version is it that you are using ? audacity-freeworld-1.3.7-0.6.1.beta.fc11.x86_64 I thought I had a patch that enables pulseaudio output and input in the f11 build, in which case you would see a pulse entry in both lists. Is there something amiss with pulseaudio on your machine ? Possibly. It was an FC6.386 that got a brute force upgrade to F9.x86_64. I'm sure that pulse was not working correctly at that time. After a whole bunch of googling, I thought I had pulse properly configured and a whole bunch of multi-media apps started working both better and together. But no guarantees that I got it right. The machine then got an upgrade to F11 by using preupgrade twice in succession: The first time to F10, then immediately again to F11. eg is it running in ps aux|grep pulse cummings 3708 0.9 0.4 584144 10172 ?Ssl Nov21 58:29 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog cummings 3711 0.0 0.0 88544 1764 ?SNov21 0:00 /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper Seems to be -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 preupgrade Error
On 11/17/2009 12:42 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Luc MAIGNAN luc.maig...@winxpert.com wrote: Hi, i try to preupgrade my F11 to a F12 but id doesn't seem to work well... ... AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'opts' An idea No, but if it's any consolation, I'm seeing that too. I was also I didn't see that on a machine I used preupgrade gui on late last week. I move it to Rawhide at the time, but I suspect its on F12 now. using preupgrade-cli; I wonder if that's related? I'm trying the GUI version now, but it's a remote connection and very slow. Seems to be stuck on Downloading package metadata..., but no errors yet. My major pauses were on downloading metadata, downloading packages, and doing cleanup. (and I have a big pipe: Cablemodem @ 15Mbps) All do not show any percentage completed factors. Only the actual upgrading of packages shows you a package count. The rest of the pauses show no indication of how far along they are and how much remains to be done. Maybe it could be done via an RFE? Reid -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: upgrading i686 F11 - x86-64 F12
On 11/17/2009 02:58 PM, Colin Brace wrote: Hi all, I am currently running 32-bit F11 on a 64-bit system. With this upgrade I'd like to upgrade to 64-bit F12. I am assuming the best if not only way to do this is by a fresh install. To expedite things, I was wondering if there was a way of exporting from rpm a list of the current installed packages, then reinstalling them from that list in the new system. I once read somewhere instructions how to do that with apt. Something like this on the command line: $ rpm -qa | cut -d. -f1 | cut -d- -f1 could be piped to a file. Is there a way of feeding it back in again? I don't see anything obvious on the man page under the install options. Have you tried using a x86_64 install DVD and going the upgrade route with it (rather than the install route)? I essentially did this from F6.i686 to F9.x86_64. I had lots to clean up when I was done, but it essentially worked. You might have to change the following file by hand first: /etc/rpm/platform so that it contains the one line: x86_64-redhat-linix You might also want to change to this line in /etc/yum.conf exactarch=0 If you do that, I think that you could then use yum upgrade to do the upgrade and it would switch package architectures for you. Thanks. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: upgrading i686 F11 - x86-64 F12
On 11/17/2009 06:10 PM, Colin Brace wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Have you tried using a x86_64 install DVD and going the upgrade route with it (rather than the install route)? I essentially did this from F6.i686 to F9.x86_64. I had lots to clean up when I was done, but it essentially worked. You might have to change the following file by hand first: /etc/rpm/platform so that it contains the one line: x86_64-redhat-linix You might also want to change to this line in /etc/yum.conf exactarch=0 If you do that, I think that you could then use yum upgrade to do the upgrade and it would switch package architectures for you. Very interesting idea, Kevin. Sounds like you are suggesting two different approaches: one an upgrade from the DVD; the other is using yum. Or am I misunderstanding you? Yum requires the preupgrade route, no? preupgrade is the supported method recently release by the fedora team. I have used this method both successfully and unsuccessfully recently. My mixed results including it working on one set of hardware and not on another, even though the same releases were involved. yum upgrade has been around for a while, but the fedora team does not support it. I have used this method successfully in the past, but often with lot's of manual cleanup necessary. It is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq In addition, when you throw in the architecture change, it becomes even more unsupported. I have learned a lot about how Fedora works under the hood by doing unsupported upgrades and then cleaning them up when I got done. Some times they work, some times they don't. A couple of times, I ended up doing 100's of yum updates on specific packages, including the one time I upgraded from F6.i386 to F9.x86_64. (I have since used pre-upgrade to update that system to F11.x86_64.) - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
On 11/17/2009 08:43 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When upgrading from F11 to F12 with preupgrade, I get an error message telling me I need more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot. Any ideas? On my desktop, I had a permanent ethernet connection, so I told it to download the initial kernel during the reboot (after installing the rest of the packages). I noticed when it booted that it used NetworkManager to configure the ethernet, so, it should work for a supported wireless configuration as well. Thanks in advance, Paul -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
On 11/17/2009 10:19 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:58:08 -0500 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On my desktop, I had a permanent ethernet connection, so I told it to download the initial kernel during the reboot (after installing the rest of the packages). I noticed when it booted that it used NetworkManager to configure the ethernet, so, it should work for a supported wireless configuration as well. How do you do that? When preupgrade determines that there is not enough space available in /boot for the new (anaconda) kernel and initrd files, it gives you the option of downloading them upon the reboot, but you should only say yes if NetworkManager can bring up a network connection. It usually can for almost any wired ethernet connection. It may become problematic for some wireless chipsets. I stared at the error for almost 3 minutes before I realized that it was allowing me the option to do the download at boot time and continued on to the package download. YMMV, depending on when in the process you run out of space in /boot The only other option I can think of, is to get a bigger /boot partition, one that is large enough to store all the necessary files. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
On 11/18/2009 12:03 AM, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:27:22 -0500 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I stared at the error for almost 3 minutes before I realized that it was allowing me the option to do the download at boot time and continued on to the package download. It doesn't for me. I have exactly this problem trying to run preupgrade on my Acer Aspire One. It goes through the whole production, downloads everything and at the end it tells me that I need 1.5mb more space in /boot. My only options at that point are check again and quit. If I quit, it's game over. Running preupgrade after that tells me that everything is ready, reboot. If I do so, grub takes me right back into Fedora 11. The only entry in grub.conf is the single kernel that I have left on that machine; there's nothing else that I can see that I could remove from /boot to gain 1.5mb. You have run out of space before getting to the anaconda kernel and initrd. Check /boot for a preupgrade directory. It needs to copy a few things into it (like the anaconda kernel and initrd, but also a kickstart file, and some other things). If there is no room for the necessary items, you are out of luck. Have you tried Germán's suggestion of removing unneeded F11 kernels? The Achilles's heel of preupgrade is the amount of free space in your /boot partition. Kinda ironic, since Redhat once recommended a seperate and small /boot partition (back in the day). Can you resize your partitions such that /boot has more space? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
On 11/18/2009 01:56 AM, Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:39:44 -0500 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Can you resize your partitions such that /boot has more space? I have no idea how to do that. Again, I just used the default F10 partitioning scheme and it's seemed to be working fine up to this point. Without knowing *what* your partitions are, I can't say for sure. If you have an LVM partition, you could try re-sizing it to a smaller size, and use the regained space as a new /boot. It might be a little tricky, especially if /boot is *not* an LVM partition. Especially if you are already using 4 primary partitions and have no extended partition. I haven't actually resized any of my partitions without adding a new disk drive. But, that was to solve problems with my other partitions filling up, not /boot. My laptop has no /boot partition. This machine originally came with FC6 installed on it. My home server used to have a /boot partition, but I deleted it (after copying its contents into the / partition) during an F8-F10 upgrade. I also moved from a 250GB main drive to a 500GB main drive with the 250GB as a secondary drive. (This was a nightmare as I've lost 3 IDE drives to disk failures on this motherboard, but my SATA drives run just fine.) I also have a test machine (now running F12) with a 100MB /boot partition. I was able to boot the anaconda kernel over the network when I did the preupgrade from F11 to F12. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: man 3 switch
On 11/16/2009 04:06 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: On 11/16/09 13:54, quoth Rick Stevens: On 11/14/2009 01:55 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:50:57 -0500 Steven W. Orr wrote: There's nothing wrong with perl having all kinds of perldoc pages. But perl comes from one place. C, OTOH could come from lots of places besides FSF and the switch statement in gcc may not be exactly the same as the switch statement in some other dialect. As C is an ISO standard, I sincerely doubt there would be any difference in the syntax and behaviour of the keywords between C compilers on any Unix-like operating system. Incorrect. C, for example, does not guarantee the order of evaluation of arithmetic operators of equal precedence in the same statement (in other words, is something like a + b + c evaluated left to right, or right to left?). This can have significant effects if some of the operands have side effects Another example is that a null pointer (or the value NUL) is not necessarily zero, only that it is guaranteed to not point at any valid datum. C allows quite a bit of leeway to the compiler implementation. I think I disagree on this one. We jumped from standardization of keywords to how operators perform. I quote from page 53 of KR: Table of Precedence and Associativity of Operators: a + b + c *always* goes from left to right. KR is not the standard, but does the standard say otherwise? Lots of things are up to the compiler writer, but I'd be surprised if this was one of them. Sometime people worry about things like a++ + b++ + c++ but even there, the precedence and the associativity are defined. In this case a++ + b++ + c++ becomes (in psuedo stack code): a++ b++ c++ a b + c + because binary + is lower precedence than ++. No? No. a++ means: produce the value of a for use in the expression, then increment a. ++a means: increment the value of a, then use the incremented value in the expression. So, a++ + b++ + c++ produces the value (a+b+c), but the variables a, b, and c get incremented *after* their values get used in the expression. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cannot install VMware-server-1.0.10
On 11/15/2009 03:21 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am trying to install #rpm -qa VMware-server VMware-server-1.0.10-203137.i386 but when running the command vmware-config.pl I get the errors below. Any ideas? vmware-server is only supported for RHEL and the like. Fedora is too bleeding edge for them, so their kernel compatibility is behind. You will have to rely on finding the appropriate patches, and applying them so that vmware-config.pl builds on your kernel. I recently updated to VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.x86_64 (had been running 2.0.1) and I had to find a new set of patches to get running again on F11. I found them, and a script to apply them (nice!). While it still leaves me with compilation warnings, it *does* compile and run for me on kernel-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64. Thanks in advance, Paul [snip] -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curious problem with yum
On 11/12/2009 10:32 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 11/11/2009 07:51 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:25:45PM -0800, Brian Mury wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:23 -0800, Brian Mury wrote: ipstate Replace all occurrences of ipstate in my post with iptstate. Oops! Known problem -- the maintainer made a minor mistake and this should be cleared up shortly. Just wait until tomorrow and try again. Fedora contributors are working on tools that in the future will help minimize these occurrences. If anyone would like to get involved to solve the problem, they're always welcome! Um, really? One down and one more to go! Still a problem:: === nufw-2.2.21-3.fc11.i586 from installed has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: libnetfilter_conntrack.so.1 is needed by package nufw-2.2.21-3.fc11.i586 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libnetfilter_conntrack.so.1 is needed by package nufw-2.2.21-3.fc11.i586 (installed) Wait for your mirror to sync up. I was successful late last night re-installing iptstate (I removed it temporarily before they said to wait). -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Point Update [was Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?]
On 11/07/2009 01:38 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 20:45 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: ... Did you file any bug reports? Fedora has a shorter lifecycle, no point updates and software changes far more often... I'm not familiar with the terms point update and point release, which R.S. used in an earlier message. What do they mean? They refer to an update or release of a number which contains a non-zero after the decimal point. An update from, say, 5.4 to 5.5 would be a point update, whereas an update from 5.4 to 6.0 would not. 5.5 would be a point release. 6.0 would not. Thanks - jon -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Need help to install java on 64 bit Firefox.
On 11/04/2009 11:12 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: I've installed the x86_64 version of jre 1.6.0_17 but I don't see how and what soft link to put into the mozilla plugin directory. Can someone please help me with that? libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 That's what's in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins on my laptop -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: checksum
On 11/04/2009 02:48 PM, Andrea Bencini wrote: I installed Fedora 9. I changed repository from fedora 9 to fedora 11. I am running yum, but I received this error. [r...@pptt ~]# yum list clamav b36c3af5732f3b9abb4771867 100% |=| 4.3 MB00:31 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/repodata/b36c3af5732f3b9abb47718676a7c498dc850465cc806d54624d9bdb4742e860-primary.sqlite.bz2: [Errno -3] Error performing checksum Trying other mirror. Error: failure: repodata/b36c3af5732f3b9abb47718676a7c498dc850465cc806d54624d9bdb4742e860-primary.sqlite.bz2 from updates: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. [r...@pptt ~]# Can you help me? The repository checksums are different. You need to download and install (with RPM) the fedora-version RPM. That should update your gpg keys. Also, RPM itself was upgraded between the releases. You may need the F10 or F11 version of RPM as well Try and use preupgrade from F9 to upgrade to F11. That's how I upgraded my laptop. You might have to upgrade through F10 (I did on 1 machine, but not on another). Thanks Andrea -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ultimate fedora laptop?
On 11/01/2009 09:04 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: * video chipset? that's the choice that always scares me. starting with f12, what would represent a safe bet? and it would be nice to have a laptop that would comfortably drive an HD TV. Big can of worms! If you trade off CPU power for video GPU power and want to run HD, I hear that nVidia with VDPAU support is the way to go. People are watching HD on Atom processors with nVidia video. If you get enough CPU horsepower (4-5GHz), almost any GPU will do. Intel and AMD are playing catch-up to nVidia in the HD marketplace. anyway, you get the idea. thoughts? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
On 10/29/2009 05:14 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: I have had an unprecented pair of events last night and this morning - two machines (both Dell Inspiron 530s desktops) have died completely ( unbootable) - having been running on f11 very successfully for some time. I had no reason to suspect the hardware at all and both were running fine from new a couple of years ago - but I am now wondering if this has anything to do with updates that came in on 28th October. The new kernel and a number of other updates were installed yesterday morning on both machines. Both were also using ext4 files systems. Did you reboot after installing the new kernels? I would like to know if this is a chance event or related to kernel changes, particularly related to ext4? If nobody else has anything remotely similar happen then I will conclude that I am just very very unlucky - but I would like to know if anybody else has had a mysterious total failure of their system in the past 24 hours. I have installed the new updates yesterday as well, but I have not yet reboot to use the new kernels on either my x86_64 laptop, nor an i586 desktop that I use only for testing. Both are still running. Possibly because I have not yet rebooted. Neither have any ext4 filesystems on them. Just a data point for you to compare to. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
On 10/29/2009 11:24 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Yes I rebooted both machines yesterday morning shortly after the updates were in. They appeared to run fine until the first failed catastrophically last night. The second failed whilst I was on my way to work - my wife phoned me to tell me that the screen had suddenly filled with coloured bars and that there were weird messages on the screen - the machines are now unbootable. It does sounds like a catastrophic disk failure but I was wondering if it had anything to do with them running with ext4 file systems - on / and /opt though /boot was ext3 as needed for f11 install with ext4 for the rest. I am at a total loss as this takes out both operational desktops at home - it is of course possible that it is not connected with any updates - but two machines going out within 12 hours seems a very unfortunate coincidence - last night I was convinced it was an unlucky disk failure - but I have not had time to investigate. However I thought it was worth asking in case anyone else who is running f11, and ran the same updates may have hit the analogous problem - if so I am quite worried as I have several other machines running f11 elsewhere (like on my desk at work!) Could also be power related, though if its a coincidence, it a *very* unfortunate one. It does make me wary about rebooting my machine now. B^) I think I'll wait to see if you get any more responses. All are fully up to date f11 - but with different hardware. The two that failed were both Dell 530S less than 2 years old. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?
On 10/17/2009 07:32 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: I upgraded the kernel. What's the process to get the corresponding matching nvidia driver? Depending on where you got your *last* nvidia driver from (either rpmfusion or atrpms), you should just have to do a yum update. Remember to enable the appropriate repo if you normally disable it though If you are building it yourself, you'll have to rebuild it again TIA -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - Cannot Set Screen Resolution
On 10/09/2009 01:19 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: And the lovely new Thunderbird 3b4 apparently resets your settings to compose messages in HTML by default. Just lovely. It doesn't do that for me. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 - Where is mod_ssl and ssl.conf
On 10/01/2009 02:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am trying to add SSL support to my apache server on FC10. This is for Squirrelmail that is up and working without SSL. So I am reading: http://www.linuxmail.info/squirrelmail-webmail-setup-howto-in-centos-5/#virtual-host http://www.linuxmail.info/securing-squirrelmail-using-ssl/ But I do not have mod_ssl or /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf on my system. What rpm(s) am I missing? I do have: nss_compat_ossl-0.9.5-3.fc10.i386.rpm openssl-0.9.8g-14.fc10.i686.rpm perl-IO-Socket-SSL-1.30-1.fc10.noarch.rpm perl-Net-SSLeay-1.35-1.fc10.i386.rpm pyOpenSSL-0.7-2.fc10.i386.rpm Uh, yum install mod_ssl ? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
On 09/28/2009 11:05 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Hi all, I have an old PC running F10, setup to play a simple animation in a display. Nothing fancy. Yesterday the town was hit with a series of power cuts which seems to have well and truely mucked it up. I took a picture of the kind of errors I'm getting: http://www.bacomponents.co.uk/f10-startup-errors.jpeg The HAL bit sits for ages, then the screen blanks. X fails to start, trying to login on the console gives me a password error, and ssh fails to connect. I've run e2fsck on the disk and it seems fine. Should I just nuke it and start again? Or is there a handy way to fix it? I'd look into the errors that happen way before hal tries to start. I'd probably force an fsck on the partition that holds /etc because it looks like your /etc/passwd file is messed up Maybe all of your filesystems Then, again, perhaps this is the result of running fsck on your filesystems after the power failures. You may be SOL if you were running fsck and took a power hit. If that's the case, a re-install may be your best bet. Do you have file fragments in your top level lost+found directories? -Phil -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
On 09/28/2009 11:57 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I'd look into the errors that happen way before hal tries to start. I'd probably force an fsck on the partition that holds /etc because it looks like your /etc/passwd file is messed up Maybe all of your filesystems Then, again, perhaps this is the result of running fsck on your filesystems after the power failures. You may be SOL if you were running fsck and took a power hit. If that's the case, a re-install may be your best bet. I suspect this might be the case - the second and third cut where only a minute apart, the machine would have been in the middle of starting up again. Do you have file fragments in your top level lost+found directories? e2fsck -f says it's clean, lost+found is empty. I tried starting up in runlevel 2 and although it boots up a lot quicker there are still a load of errors (mostly concerning missing users or UIDs) and I can't log in. The most I can do is restart it with Ctrl+Alt+Del. You want to boot into runlevel 1 (single user mode). If you do it right, you'll already be the root user. If it continually prompts you for a password, you'll need a rescue disk to boot from. I don't know what all files are involved in the user database, but passwd and shadow seem fine? root and my own user are in there. Attack your errors one at a time, starting with the first error. Check the /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/boot.log files for more information. -Phil -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing new graphics card FIXED
On 09/27/2009 07:09 PM, Gerhard Magnus wrote: On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 16:49 -0700, Gerhard Magnus wrote: Gerhard Magnus wrote: I'd like to be able to back out of installing a new graphics card on a system running FC11. Is there a file I can backup and then restore from run level 3 if things don't work? I thought this file was /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to be there If your system works without /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then you do not have anything to back up your system is auto-configuring itself at bootup. If you find you do need one with the new card, then you can just delete it if you go back to the old card. Mikkel -- Although the new card didn't work I was able to go back to the old (onboard) one and reboot without problems. Now, the matter of the new card. It's nvidia GeForce 6200 512MB -- of the Series 6 (I think) which, according to http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php?title=Main_Page#Nvidia_.28For_GeForce_6.2C_7.2C_8.2C_9_.26_200_series_cards.29 should work with FC11, although gamers on the Web complain about it's being too old and slow. It works fine through the grub menu and the boot process up to starting X -- and then the monitor stops getting a signal. According to fedoraguide a driver for this card can be installed by running: yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs. This (and a lot of other things) didn't work. What finally did work was installing kmod-nvidia (a guess) and rebooting into the new kernel. When you install an akmod package for the first time, it does its work during boot up, so, if you didn't reboot your system after installing, it didn't check to see if it should build the appropriate kmod for you. Everything seems fine now. Why I have no idea. Because you you installed an already built copy of the kernel module (instead of rebooting and letting akmod build it for you). Not to get all Marvin Gaye here... but what's goin' on? Do cards from nvidia require a separate set of kernels? (If this question doesn't have a short answer maybe someone could suggest a webpage to look at) And its not a separate set of kernels, its a particular kernel module. In this case, it would be the nvidia video driver, instead of the default nv or nouveau driver; either of which *should* work with your video card. I have a GeForce 6200 in *my* server. While its does work with the nv driver, I choose to run the nvidia driver for its XvMC support. Jerry -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: My WebDav Calendar for Sunbird/Lightning has stopped working
On 09/24/2009 11:15 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-23 23:04:59, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: My Home server has a WebDav Calendar named Home in /var/www/html/dav/Home.ics ... Error: Skipping Operating System timezone 'America/New'. TypeError: tz has no properties ... The only package changes I can see happened before: Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-Lite-0.20-4.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-MLDBM-2.01-7.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:13 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-0.13-2.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:15 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-0.65-1.2.cf.fc10.i386 Sep 23 12:18:15 Installed: sunbird-0.9-3.fc10.i386 Nothing jumps out at me. FWIW, here tzdata was updated today, so perhaps, if you have automatic updates of some form, you actually have that update? tzdata-2009m was updated back on 9/18. That's a few days before this happened for me -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
My WebDav Calendar for Sunbird/Lightning has stopped working
My Home server has a WebDav Calendar named Home in /var/www/html/dav/Home.ics Long story short: Last night (actually, about 1:30 this AM) I made one change to my calendar from my laptop via Thunderbird/Lightning. It seemed to take, so I shut down the laptop and went to bed. This morning (about 11:30 AM) I fired up the laptop to look at my calendar and it was gone. No data in Thunderbird/Lightning from it. There is a little ! inside a yellow triangle next to it in the calendar list. No attempt to access this calendar is succeeding for me. Not from Lightning, not from Sunbird, not from any of my 3 machines running Linux (I haven't tried my wife's Windows box yet). I've looked at /var/log/httpd/access_log and error_log. The access_log shows my GET's, but there are no errors in the error log. So, I assume that the data is being served properly, so it must be something else. So, I went down to the server and rebooted. No change! The calendar is still un-accessable. So, finally, I installed Sunbird on the server and tried to add the calendar to it. No dice. Same stupid yellow triangle. This time, I looked at Sunbirds error console: Error: Skipping Operating System timezone 'America/New'. TypeError: tz has no properties Source File: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js - file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calTimezoneService.js Line: 736 Warning: Warning: Using guessed timezone America/New_York (UTC-0500/-0400). This ZoneInfo timezone seems to match the operating system timezone this year. This ZoneInfo timezone was chosen based on matching the operating system timezone with likely timezones for internet users using US English. Error: [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x804a0100 [calIICSService.parseICS] nsresult: 0x804a0100 (unknown) location: JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js - file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js :: ip_parseString :: line 58 data: no] Source File: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js - file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js Line: 58 Warning: There has been an error reading data for calendar: HomeDav. It has been placed in read-only mode, since changes to this calendar will likely result in data-loss. You may change this setting by choosing 'Edit Calendar'. Error code: ICS_NO_ERROR. Description: [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x804a0100 [calIICSService.parseICS] nsresult: 0x804a0100 (unknown) location: JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js - file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js :: ip_parseString :: line 58 data: no] Warning: There has been an error reading data for calendar: HomeDav. Error code: READ_FAILED. Description: The only package changes I can see happened before: Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-Lite-0.20-4.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-MLDBM-2.01-7.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:13 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-0.13-2.fc10.noarch Sep 23 00:40:15 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-0.65-1.2.cf.fc10.i386 Sep 23 12:18:15 Installed: sunbird-0.9-3.fc10.i386 Nothing jumps out at me. Can someone please tell me what went wrong? And maybe point the finger at the problem? Thanks! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How much memory do I have?
On 09/21/2009 06:06 PM, Hiisi wrote: Original Poster, sorry for intruding the thread, but I have small question to ask for those Gurus. How much memory can I have on my computer? It's 32 bit desktop: It depends on a lot of things, but mostly your system motherboard. Different boards allocate their memory differently. Especially with 32-bit only CPUs. Linux imt.ru 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Aug 27 21:18:54 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Memory section of lshw says: *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 19 slot: System board or motherboard size: 512MiB capacity: 2GiB If I understand that correctly I'm not allowed to add more that 2GiB? That's what the above seems to indicate for your motherboard. Using PAE kernel will I be able to install 4Gib? No, if the motherboard isn't capable of handling more than 2GiB, then that's your max. My laptop has a max of 2GiB as well. And its running an Intel Core2 CPU which is 64-bits. But, it can't use more than 2GiB of RAM. Thanks for attention! Each mother board has its own restrictions. It should be in the User Guide for either your system (if its a brand name system) or your mother board. I have found the site: www.crucial.com is a good repository for amounts of MAX memory (they tell you what the max amounts are if you can tell them the system/motherboard brand and model number. I have had computers with max motherboard amounts of: 384MiB, 512MiB, 1GiB, 2GiB, 4GiB*, and I've seen systems with max amounts of 8GiB, 16GiB, and more. I put a * next to the 4GiB amount because sometimes motherboard designs limit the actual amount of available memory to 3GiB or 3.5GiB due to memory mappings (esp with 32-bit CPUs), and most 32-bit OSes can't use more than 4GiB max anyways. Also, sometimes, the CMOS Setup has a setting controlling how much memory is made available to the OS. PAE (Physical Address Extensions) can be used with most modern CPUs (when run in 32-bit mode), but since most modern CPUs are 64-bit capable, why would you run a 32-bit OS on them? Even Windows is now shipping 64-bit Vista and Windows-7 on new processors. The default kernels for Fedora 11 are PAE capable, so if your motherboard can see/use more than 3GiB, you should get use of the max amount of memory. I've read a couple of good explanations online about the limits of memory on 32-bit motherboards. Google for them, they're pretty easy to find. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How much memory do I have?
On 09/21/2009 01:07 AM, Steven W. Orr wrote: Score! I did a yum install of kernel-PAE plus I had to track down the corresponding nvidia klm: kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.i686.PAE-180.60-1.fc10.3.i686.rpm Which begs the question: why aren't you running kernel-2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.x86_64 on this AMD Athlon 64? All is at peace in the multiverse. Glad you got your problem solved FOOM (Formerly of MMMS) Steven W. Orr wrote: On 09/21/09 00:11, quoth Frederick Abrams: From what i remember on a 32Bit the maximum ammount of memory your pc will see/make use of is 3Gb to make use of anything more than 3GB you need to use a 64Bit OS. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: booting fedora 11 from a fedora 10 grub?
On 09/19/2009 01:19 PM, James Allsopp wrote: but why isn't idenitfied by /dev/sda2 like partitions normally are? I'm not understanding why a UUID is necessary, as opposed to a standard /dev/sd pointer to the root partition. Jim, look at it this way. You have a system with 4 different disk cables, which can support up to 6 different disk devices. You have a working system using /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. You add a new disk drive. All of a sudden, your system devices are /dev/sda (your *new* drive), /dev/sdb (your old /dev/sda) and /dev/sdc (your old /dev/sdb). Now, even if you *can* find your old root partition, it has names which reference partitions on the wrong disks. Your system is broken. With UUIDs, once you can locate the correct root disk partition, it also references your old disks via UUID and can find them regardless of their new device names in the new setup. All you have to do is reference your new disk partitions via their UUIDs. Its the same with, well, suppose your motherboard dies and you replace it with a new one. If you are not careful cabling your disks in the new setup, you'll have the same problems as above, whereas if you use UUIDs, everything will get found, regardless of where it ends up (once you have your boot disk identified correctly and booting). Basically how can I get this to work? Use the UUIDs. Jim -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ati Drivers ??
On 09/18/2009 10:58 AM, Jim wrote: On 09/17/2009 08:07 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 09/17/2009 08:01 PM, Jim wrote: FC 11 Where is the kmod-fglrx drivers in FC11. The name has changed (didn't you see all the discussion on this list about that?) [sarcasm off]. I think you want to look for kmod-catalyst now. Thanks for the info. I found out it won't support my Ati Radeon Mobility 9200 AGP 1002:5C63 Then you are stuck using the radeon driver and waiting for them to finish 3D support for it. Say: Thank-you AMD/ATI! We used to have working 3D drivers for these cards, but no more (on recent kernels) until the radeon driver finishes support for them. Its really nice to know that my 2 1/2 yo laptop video is obsolete. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ati Drivers ??
On 09/18/2009 12:38 PM, Jim wrote: I have a Dell laptop that came with a ATI video, I found myself a mini-card that had Nvidia on it and made the change. Some preliminary googling has shown me that while nVidia lists laptop cards on their site, trying to find anyone selling *just* the laptop card (without the rest of the laptop) seems to be a losing proposition. Or, maybe just for the 2-3 cards I was looking at? 8400M/9400M/9600M Where did you find yours? Are they cost effective vs desktop models (ie US$50)? I've no problem opening up my system and swapping the card, I just can't seem to find anyone selling what I'm interested in -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31
On 09/17/2009 01:14 PM, Ramesh.R wrote: Hi Everybody, We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which comes with kernel 2.6.29) installed. Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to 2.6.31. We tried as per the 'README' installation notes comes with the 2.6.31 kernel, but failed in our attempt. Could you please help us on upgrading Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment. The current kernel for F11 is 2.6.30.5-43 (Do a yum update in order to get it.) That means it is a full 2.6.30.5 kernel with a number of patches applied by Fedora that could come from development kernels upstream (could be bug fixes, could be new functionality...). What is it you think you need in a 2.6.31 kernel? And do you know that it isn't already in the 2.6.30.5-43 that Fedora provides? Thanks in Advance. Regards, Ramesh -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ati Drivers ??
On 09/17/2009 08:01 PM, Jim wrote: FC 11 Where is the kmod-fglrx drivers in FC11. The name has changed (didn't you see all the discussion on this list about that?) [sarcasm off]. I think you want to look for kmod-catalyst now. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMWare Server 2.0.1 On Fedora 11 64Bit
On 09/16/2009 06:48 AM, Frederick Abrams wrote: Hi All, I've got a PC with Quad Core processor and 8 GB ram i'm running Fedora 11 (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64) and trying to install VMWare server 2.0.1 (VMware-server-2.0.1-156745.x86_64.rpm) I upgraded to this version on 7/25. I had to do some work to get it to work right. I downloaded the following files as well: http://www.saarlinux.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/vmware-server-modules-2629tar.gz http://codebin.cotescu.com/vmware/vmware-server-install-script.tar.gz Between the 2 extra files, I was able to get my modules compiled and vmware server to work again for me. (I no longer remember which file worked or even if both are needed.) -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Battery - Control Screen brightness
On 09/13/2009 11:36 AM, Mail Lists wrote: Gnome - F11. When I unplug and go on battery - the screen dims. The power applet for non-battery has a slider for screen brightness. The battery tab only has a button to click to dim screen - i have that set to no. I see 2 check boxes: Reduce backlight brightness Dim display when idle I have both of them set. I also have the slider set to 20 minutes (Put display to sleep when inactive for) Also, my laptop has a couple of Fn buttons to control screen brightness. I looked at the ASUS scripts that came with my system, and none of them seem to control screen brightness, so I assume that they control the screen brightness directly? Yet - when I go on power the screen dims. Is there a slider somewhere to set screen brightness when on battery ? If not - is there a gnome registery setting ? I too notice that the minute I go on battery, the whole screen dims. The hardware laptop brightness has no further effect - pressing it shows the brightness to full - clearly it is not. As soon as I plug power back in the screen gets brighter. I see slightly different behaviour. When I unplug from power, the screen dims. I then use the buttons to return the screen brightness to where I want it. Then (some time later) while using the touchpad (mouse and clicks) the screen all of a sudden dims again, even more. If I then use the buttons to return it to where I want, just a short time after that the screen dims *again*. Makes me wonder what idle is looking at for activity, since power management has been overridden manually, yet insists on asserting itself again, and again, and again, Thanks for help. Sorry, not helping, just commiserating gene/ -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update to 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 duplex problem
On 09/13/2009 10:18 PM, Anton Buenavista wrote: Recently updated kernel to 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 and now my Fedora system won't boot up. It boots up to the splash screen after which I am greeted with an alt1 :02:00.0: eth0 link is up 100 Mbps full duplex on my screen. It stops there and I am unable to do anything but restart. The old kernels still work. Can anyone advise on how I can remedy this? Have you disabled RHGB and looked at where it hangs during startup? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel update to 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 issues
On 09/07/2009 02:04 PM, Jason Turning wrote: I did the update to kernel 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 today, noticed there were updates to pulse audio, and when I rebooted wireless didn't work and I heard these loud sound pops, one at boot, one at login, so I just reverted back to the previous kernel. Anyone having similar issues? Booted for me, no pops of any kind from the speakers, wireless works for me (iwl3945). Suspend/Hibernate is still broken for me (its been that way for all of F11), but I haven't tracked that down yet S/H worked fine for me under F9. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Where did Grub2 come from... one of the packages I installed?
On 09/07/2009 02:28 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Hmm... I was installing a bunch of packages from the repository for testing purposes, and I ended up with a Grub2 line entry, and thought it strange: title GNU GRUB 2, (1.98) kernel /grub2/core.img title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586) root (hd0,8) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 ro root=LABEL=root-f11 rhgb quiet nomodeset initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586.img Which package was this installed from? grub2, available in the fedora repo for both F10 and F11. Its not installed on any of my systems, but it *is* available in the repo. Thanks! Dan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Upgrade Hangs
On 09/05/2009 11:43 AM, Law Barstow wrote: I am trying to upgrade my Fedora 10 system to Fedora 11. System is x86_64 with a RAID1 Mirror. /Boot is on this mirror, so I can't use preupgrade (Bug 504826). Instead, I downloaded the install DVD and tried to do the upgrade. If I choose Upgrade Existing System,the upgrade starts and I think /sbin/loader runs then it hangs at Initializing Hardware. I do get a mouse pointer that starts working after a minute or so. But that's it. Also, the text is shifted to the right. So the information starts on the far right of the screen and then wraps to the left. When I then tried using the Install using basic video driver option, my existing F10 installation isn't found. Instead, an error of error reading device sda is displayed and I am asked to reinitialize my drives, which is something I'd rather not do. Any suggestions? Can you break the mirror, do the upgrade in degraded mode, then re-add the mirror and rebuild? Thank you, Law -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???
On 09/05/2009 10:19 PM, Dan Hensley wrote: Here's mine (I recreated the original link again): lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2009-09-05 17:11 /usr/tmp - /var/tmp No, the link needs to be relative! When anaconda runs, it mounts your root filesystem under its own. If you have any absolute links, the will point to anaconda's filesystem instead of yours! So it seems that permissions isn't the issue. Strange thing is, I've never messed with this link. I suspect the installer is just printing the wrong error message. Its not the installer, fix your link. Dan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: open terminal window here
On 09/03/2009 04:21 PM, Smith, Herb wrote: -Original Message- From: Kam Leo [mailto:kam@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:02 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: open terminal window here That option has removed as a default since FC6. Install nautilus-open-terminal to get the command to appear in Gnome's right-click menu. I tried to do that but yum told me there was no such package. Is there some repo I need to enable to get this guy? fedora Thanks, Herb -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chrome Fedora proxy configuration
On 09/02/2009 11:38 AM, John Thompson wrote: Has anyone figured out how to configure a proxy server with Chrome? Going to Options...Under the Hood and clicking the Change proxy settings button just brings up a help screen, but I can't see anywhere to actually change the settings. I installed Chromium yesterday, and while I don't need any proxy settings, following above brings me directly to the proxy settings window: Network Proxy Preferences which has a Location pulldown and 2 tabs: Proxy Configuration, and Ignored Hosts. Below that is 3 buttons: Help, Delete Location, and Close Did you somehow click through to the Help screen without knowing it? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: xfig font failure
On 09/01/2009 06:06 PM, John Thompson wrote: I haven't used xfig since updating from Fedora-10 to Fedora-11, and today when I finally had occasion to try it, it doesn't work: Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Cannot convert string 6x13 to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Google tells me that Debian people found this results from a missing gsfonts-X11 package, but Fedora has no such package. What am I missing? What do you have to do to see the errors? I just started xfig from the menu on my F11.x86_64 laptop, and it starts and shows me a blank workspace. When I start it from the command line, I see no messages. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chrome-Fedora People
On 09/01/2009 08:48 PM, fred smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Jim wrote: For those interested in downloading Google-Chrome for Fedora. http://fedorapeople.org/~spot/chromium/ Do we need to install both the chrome and v8 RPMs? yum did. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chrome-Fedora People
On 09/01/2009 10:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:16 -0400, Jim wrote: On 09/01/2009 08:48 PM, fred smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Jim wrote: For those interested in downloading Google-Chrome for Fedora. http://fedorapeople.org/~spot/chromium/ Do we need to install both the chrome and v8 RPMs? yes you do. Setup /etc/yum.repos.d/chromium.repo and put this in it, [chromium] name=Chromium Test Packages baseurl=http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F$releasever/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 and in yum install chromium and it will get the dependencies you need That worked for me, but when I try to view video it claims that Flash is not installed, which it is (64-bit Adobe version). There doesn't appear to be a way to configure this. I put symlinks in /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins to all the files in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and Flash now works for me. poc -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird master security device
On 08/28/2009 09:51 PM, Skunk Worx wrote: Edit-Preferences-Security-Passwords shows Use Master Passwords checked. I can't uncheck it; it wants the old password and I never set it. Its not checked for me. I'm not sure what you've done. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On 08/27/2009 12:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm surprised, as I have a pcHDTV-5500 running in my system The card can only be used for either NTSC or ATSC, but it can be switched between when the other is not in use. I have used it to view OTA and now clearQAM cable with only a re-configuration in MythTV. That cable is yet another modulation standard, and I wasn't aware that the ATSC code could function with QAM rather than 8VSB. Or maybe that is one of the diffs between my -3000 and your -5500? Uh, no, it shouldn't be. ATSC is the encompassing standard, it *includes* either QAM or 8VSB. AFAIK, both PCHDTV boards support both QAM[64/128/256] and 8VSB. But, only 1 at a time. You have to specify the signal type to scan for when you do the scan. Originally, I had mine setup for OTA (8VSB). Then, after my cable went digital only, I connected it to my cable, and I rescanned as QAM-256. According to the pcHDTV.com WWW site, they have a firmware download for PC-2000 and PC-3000 cards which support This firmware supports ATSC and QAM on the HD-3000 and ATSC on the HD-2000. So, it seems that with the right firmware, your HD-3000 should do either 8VSB and QAM. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On 08/26/2009 06:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; We have had a showstopper as far as yumex is concerned, for 3 or more days, while trying to update our MythTV installs on 32 bit F10 installs. The MythTV package series now offered needs a dependency called php-process. Obviously there is no such package available, or wasn't a couple of hours ago. Has anyone an idea how this can be alleviated? Thanks all. Where are you getting MythTV from? ATRPMs or RPMFusion (or from source code)? I can find the RPM in the F11 Fedora repo, but it is not installed on my FE only laptop (installed from ATRPMs). And, like you, it isn't found on my F10 systems, and it isn't needed for me on my BE. All of my systems are up-to-date -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On 08/26/2009 11:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/26/2009 06:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; We have had a showstopper as far as yumex is concerned, for 3 or more days, while trying to update our MythTV installs on 32 bit F10 installs. The MythTV package series now offered needs a dependency called php-process. Obviously there is no such package available, or wasn't a couple of hours ago. Has anyone an idea how this can be alleviated? Thanks all. Where are you getting MythTV from? ATRPMs or RPMFusion (or from source code)? I can find the RPM in the F11 Fedora repo, but it is not installed on my FE only laptop (installed from ATRPMs). And, like you, it isn't found on my F10 systems, and it isn't needed for me on my BE. All of my systems are up-to-date MythTV comes from rpmfusion, and I have a previous version installed but have not managed to get it properly configured. And I'm all up to date except for that. If you're on F10, and you're running an F10 version of MythTV that depends on php-process, then I would expect that RPMFusion is responsible for providing it for you. Are you sure its a MythTV package that depends on it? Jarod Wilson published the Mythology pages for getting MythTV to work on Fedora releases since FC3 or so. I got mine working around FC5 timeframe, and it continues to work on F10 for me. All packages from ATRPMs. (OK, there's that PIL vs python-imaging-libarary problem, but besides that, it works for me.) Also, there is now MythDora that you should look into as it starts out as a Live-CD (or DVD, I forget) that you can install on your MythTV systems so you should start with a working system. What are your problems getting MythTV running, and have you looked for help on the MythTV-users email list? If so, bugzilla it over at RPMFusion. Kaffiene tries to work, but development seems to have stopped before kaffeine? it was anywhere near prime time material. And the fedora version is at least 2 years out of date, I had to build that from the tarballs. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On 08/27/2009 12:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: What are your problems getting MythTV running, and have you looked for help on the MythTV-users email list? One of the things is that it doesn't seem to play well with a pcHDTV-3000 card. tvtime worked very well with it for NTSC, but switching the firmware loader to set it for NA over the air diigital, and it can't be properly discovered by Mythconfig. I'm surprised, as I have a pcHDTV-5500 running in my system The card can only be used for either NTSC or ATSC, but it can be switched between when the other is not in use. I have used it to view OTA and now clearQAM cable with only a re-configuration in MythTV. My cable has completely switch to all digital, so the NTSC side is now worthless for me. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto configure soundcard in F11
On 08/25/2009 05:40 PM, stan wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:23:46 -0500 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: pulseaudio was put back, I am not using KDE and I am not being literal. The options you mention are not on my machine. Maybe it would help if you gave me a list of your pulseaudio related rpms and I could compare them to mine. Here are the pulseaudio rpms installed on my system. pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.16.3-2.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.x86_64 xmms-pulse-0.9.4-7.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-14.fc11.i586 wine-pulseaudio-1.1.25-1.fc11.i586 pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-devel-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.2-12.noarch pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 fluxbox-pulseaudio-1.1.1-2.fc11.x86_64 do you also have padevchooser, pavumeter, pavucontrol? Those are pulse audio RPMs as well -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird 3 and 2?
On 08/25/2009 05:59 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/13564 works nicely in TB 3 in F11... Um, yes, it does. Thanks! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: YUM update conflicts: 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' (F11, x86_64)
On 08/22/2009 03:17 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: Running 'yum update' from the command line, I am getting some file conflicts between different arch/versions of the 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' packages. This machine runs F11-x86_64. Here's the actual error output: code Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/doc/glibc-2.10.1/NEWS from install of glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/bin/ldd from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/doc/glibc-common-2.10.1/ChangeLog.bz2 from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 /code Is this a known issue, or did I screw something up? Something is screwed up. Possibly on your system. glibc-common.i586 is conflicting with glibc-common.i686. I think you need one and not the other. Since you system is a base x86_64, I would suggest trying the following: # yum shell remove glibc-common.i586 install glibc-common.i686 run and see if that helps Ryan B. Lynch ryan.b.ly...@gmail.com mailto:ryan.b.ly...@gmail.com -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: YUM update conflicts: 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' (F11, x86_64)
On 08/22/2009 03:39 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 08/22/2009 12:24:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/22/2009 03:17 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: Running 'yum update' from the command line, I am getting some file conflicts between different arch/versions of the 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' packages. This machine runs F11-x86_64. Here's the actual error output: code Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/doc/glibc-2.10.1/NEWS from install of glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/bin/ldd from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/doc/glibc-common-2.10.1/ChangeLog.bz2 from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 /code Is this a known issue, or did I screw something up? Something is screwed up. Possibly on your system. glibc-common.i586 is conflicting with glibc-common.i686. I think you need one and not the other. Since you system is a base x86_64, I would suggest trying the following: # yum shell remove glibc-common.i586 install glibc-common.i686 run and see if that helps H ... perhaps install glibc-common.x86_64? i686 is still 32 bit. Not if its a multi-lib problem. I assumed that the x86_64 part would straighten itself out But yes, he needs to ensure that all of his secondary libs are either all i586 or all i686 (where he has a choice between the two) and that they co-exist well with their x86_64 counterparts (which should be the primary concern anyways). -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: YUM update conflicts: 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' (F11, x86_64)
On 08/22/2009 04:00 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 15:44, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: On 08/22/2009 03:39 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 08/22/2009 12:24:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/22/2009 03:17 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: Running 'yum update' from the command line, I am getting some file conflicts between different arch/versions of the 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' packages. This machine runs F11-x86_64. Here's the actual error output: code Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/doc/glibc-2.10.1/NEWS from install of glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/bin/ldd from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/doc/glibc-common-2.10.1/ChangeLog.bz2 from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 file /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 /code Is this a known issue, or did I screw something up? Something is screwed up. Possibly on your system. glibc-common.i586 is conflicting with glibc-common.i686. I think you need one and not the other. Since you system is a base x86_64, I would suggest trying the following: # yum shell remove glibc-common.i586 install glibc-common.i686 run and see if that helps H ... perhaps install glibc-common.x86_64? i686 is still 32 bit. Not if its a multi-lib problem. I assumed that the x86_64 part would straighten itself out But yes, he needs to ensure that all of his secondary libs are either all i586 or all i686 (where he has a choice between the two) and that they co-exist well with their x86_64 counterparts (which should be the primary concern anyways). Here's the output of `yum list installed glibc-common glibc`, for reference: code Installed Packages glibc.i686 2.10.1-2 installed glibc.x86_64 2.10.1-2 installed glibc-common.x86_642.10.1-2 installed /code I tried `yum remove glibc.i686`, but it wants to remove 116 packages, for dependencies. Mostly, it looks like stuff I installed while getting Skype for Linux to run, so I'm pretty sure its going to break some things if I remove it all. Ryan, You are barking up the wrong tree. Your problem is glibc-common.i586. Something is trying to install this package and it conflicts with your currently installed glibc-common.i686. You need to track down where that dependency is coming from and deal with it. I find when dealing with wrong architecture RPMs, that using yum in SHELL mode is much better then dealing with separate command lines as I can do a remove *and* and install in one transaction and have better control over it. Isn't this a packaging bug? There's no conflict between my currently-installed 'glibc.i686' and 'glib.x86_64' (2.10.1-2), although there is a conflict between the two archs' 'glibc-common' packages. Possibly, but we need to know what is causing it first. i586/i686 are not meant to be multilib (like x86_64/i686 is). -Ryan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: YUM update conflicts: 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' (F11, x86_64)
On 08/22/2009 05:48 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:55, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: On 08/22/2009 04:00 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 15:44, Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net mailto:cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote: On 08/22/2009 03:39 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 08/22/2009 12:24:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/22/2009 03:17 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: Here's the actual error output: code Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/doc/glibc-2.10.1/NEWS from install of glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.10.1-2.x86_64 OK, this looks like a packaging error, if glibc is supposed to be multi-lib, they should co-exist. They do on my system. I have both installed. No magic on my part. (F11.x86_64) file /usr/bin/ldd from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 Where is the glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 coming from? file /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 And again here? file /usr/share/doc/glibc-common-2.10.1/ChangeLog.bz2 from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 And here file /usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT from install of glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.10.1-2.x86_64 And there. No, I'm pretty sure that's the right tree :-) I didn't post the whole output of 'yum update', though, so that's not your fault. See below. Isn't this a packaging bug? There's no conflict between my currently-installed 'glibc.i686' and 'glib.x86_64' (2.10.1-2), although there is a conflict between the two archs' 'glibc-common' packages. Possibly, but we need to know what is causing it first. i586/i686 are not meant to be multilib (like x86_64/i686 is). I don't mean to be rude, but I think you have some misconceptions about how i686 and i586 work on Fedora, before we go any further: * There is no glibc-common.i686 package. It doesn't exist, either on my system or anywhere in stable Fedora. Go take a look at at the repos, right now, and confirm that. (There is such a package in Rawhide, but that's not relevant, here.) * Many source RPMs don't have an i686 binary package, at all. Instead, they have an i586 or i386 package for 32-bit. OpenSSH is like this (go check for yourself), and there are others. I don't exactly know why this is, but it's perfectly valid to have a mix of i586 and i686 packages on a Fedora system. * glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 is the package causing YUM to pull in glibc-common.i586. Here's the snippet from my original 'yum update' command: output --- Package glibc.i686 0:2.10.1-4 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 for package: glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 /output * glibc-2.10.1-2.i686 depends on 'glibc-common = 2.10.1-2', but it apparently tolerates either the i586 OR the x86_64 version of 'glibc-common'. The 2.10.1-4.i686 update, however, changed its dependencies: It only accepts the i586 arch of 'glibc-common'. You can confirm this by comparing: - `yum deplist glibc-2.10.1-2.i686 | grep glibc-common`: output dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-2 provider: glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-2 provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-2 dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-2 provider: glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-2 provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-2 /output against: - `yum deplist glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 | grep glibc-common`: output dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 provider: glibc-common.i586 2.10.1-4 /output IN SHORT: The package 'glibc.i686' changes its dependencies from the -2 release to -4. Previously, my 'glibc-common.x86_64' was sufficient to satisfy 'glibc.i686', whereas now, it *must* have 'glibc-common.i586'. Nine output is different than yours: output # yum deplist glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 | grep glibc-common dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 provider: glibc-common.x86_64 2.10.1-4 /output Something is still wrong. All that make sense? I think at this point, I need to find out why that change happened, and whether there's anything to be done about it upstream. I'm not sure it happened upstream But, I don't know enough about yum to comment further -Ryan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi
Re: YUM update conflicts: 'glibc' and 'glibc-common' (F11, x86_64)
On 08/22/2009 06:40 PM, Ryan Lynch wrote: Slap my forehead, will ya? There was no change in the 'glibc.i686' package, that's not what 'yum deplist' was telling me. The problem was that YUM can't see the update for glibc-common-2.10.1-4.x86_64, so it THINKS the only package that will satisfy the dependency is glibc-common-2.10.1-4.i586. That, in turn, creates the conflict. It looks like glibc is designed to allow both 64 and 32 bit versions to coexist in harmony, but not glibc-common. Instead, it lets you use the 64-bit glibc-common package to satisfy any 32-bit package deps you might have. So, why can't YUM see the updated glibc-common.x86_64 package? Because my repo mirror is out of date! (DUH!) That'll do it! B^) Glad you got it straightened out! -Ryan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 08/21/2009 07:30 AM, mike cloaked wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. ... [show rest of quote] When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place. Lightning is installed with: yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates and enigmail via: yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this yet? Mike, I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 08/21/2009 03:40 PM, David Boles wrote: On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543 will solve your extension problems. :-) Firefox extensions will solve my thunderbird problems? Please elaborate! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On 08/21/2009 04:06 PM, ann kok wrote: Thank you for all help I am using fedora 10 but ls -z doesn't work to me! He didn't say it existed, he just hypothesized a possible command line option to do what you wanted. B^) -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk
On 08/20/2009 11:28 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: It looks like the thing for me to do is to change to fedora 11 before fedora 9 is EOLed. Too Late! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fudged up my CUPS settings
On 08/16/2009 07:15 PM, Tod Thomas wrote: I have my FC10 laptop connected to a winxp shared printer using cups. I remember it was a bit of a hassle to setup because the xp password had special characters so I had to modify a config file somewhere. Anyway I recently was goofing around and tried the Fedora system CUPS config GUI (applet?) which seems to have messed up my ability to print. So now I have two problems. One is almost every link in the CUPS web interface looks like this: http://::1/printers/Okidata?op=print-test-page Is that an IP6 URL? or a port number? The port number is messed up somehow. For the life of me I can't find the config file for this. Also, I can't get the password working again so I need to be able to configure it and the web GUI can't seem to handle the special characters I need to login to the share on the XP box. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks - Tod -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On 08/15/2009 06:50 PM, Christoph A. wrote: On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. It seams that button/feature has been removed..? I can confirm this too, it was a very useful feature now its gone. :( https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564 made the job You can get a compatible version of Enigmail here: http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php as long as signing works I can live with the current situation we'll see when the fc11 enigmail package gets updated It just updated on my system Now, if the Lightning update would just get released thanks for your replies Christoph -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash 10 x64?
On 08/15/2009 07:20 PM, John Aldrich wrote: Anyone got an RPM version of Adobe's Flash 10 pre-release for x64? I really don't like trying to install tarball versions of plugins. For some reason it never seems to work right. :-( Well, since the tarball contains only ONE file, and it gets put in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, how can you go wrong? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: LiveCD problems
On 08/11/2009 02:07 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:35 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: But it could not locate: /dev/sda1-15 (Seagate 1TB SATA disk) [Fedora/Ubuntu/Debian] (BRAND NEW) The 1TB drive already has F8 F9 installed. Can you say what SATA hardware you have? Someone with the same chipset may have advice. I am not sure what you mean by `hardware'? Do you mean model number? If not, can you be more specific, please? He wants to know what chipset your motherboard uses for the SATA disk support. Different chipsets require different low level drivers, which may react differently Thanks! Dan -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: still no resolution solution..
On 08/11/2009 11:40 PM, charles zeitler wrote: i just downloaded ati's driver (it's proprietary ...). fglrx doesn't work with F11 yet. No support from ATI yet for the newer kernels. i also have radeonhd ...i haven't figured out how to set it up as the current driver... edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and replace: driver radeon with: driver radeonhd You may (or may not) have to add or fiddle with other options in the file depending on what you want working. radeon worked fine on fedora 10...:.. I went from using fglrx in F9 to using radeon in F11. Most stuff works (except for googleearth, which was problematic anyways with ATI, seems googleearth is the perfect answer to the question: How can I hang my ATI xorg session hard so that the mouse and keyboard don't respond anymore?) I have a Mobility Radeon x1600 in this laptop. Kind of surprised that nobody else with better knowledge of ATI hardware hasn't chimed in Oh, I don't suppose you could still boot to your F10 environment to compare the X logs? unfortunately i lost all previous context... including a working xorg.conf! Ed in desperation, i put the (xorg generated) xorg.conf in /etc/X11 (i thought the blank screen when testing it was bad news) anyway, it seems x does read it- but seems to ignore my request for higher resolution, for use of a different driver: [fed...@cthuga bin]$ sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d FontPath built-ins EndSection Section Module Load dri Load glx Load dri2 Load extmod Load dbe Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL M782 HorizSync30.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] snippy.. Identifier Card0 Driver radeonhd VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection EndSection Do you actually run X at all of these different depths? I have a: DefaultDepth24 in my Screen section starts up at 1024x768, xrandr doesn't show 1600x1200, lsmod shows radeon loaded any thoughts? Look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. It has all the gory details on Xorg's decision making and should point to towards what failed and what's not working and what Xorg decided to do about it Read it carefully. The errors prety much stand out (or at least they do to someone who's been reading them for 10 years now...). Make sure Xorg is running at the same depth you think it is thanx again... charles zeitler -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: LiveCD problems
On 08/10/2009 04:53 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: For the first time, I have booted off the LiveCD and I notice several problems: (1) The GUI screen starts up with the teardrop, completes filling it up, and then it drops into a shell (2) It says something about creating a symlink (/dev/root) and so I issued: (a) rm -fr root (b) ln -s /dev/root /root (c) exit And the result is the keyboard has Caps-Lock Scroll-Lock LEDs flashing. Nothing happens, so I pressed the hardware This is a sign that the kernel panic-ed There was talk about flashing the kernel panic reason as Morse Code, but I don't think they ever implemented that. reset button and the system reboots. After rebooting again, filling the teardrop again, this times it falls into a shell again. (3) It says something of a non-standard filesystem or volume and says that it fails to create a ramdiskfs. That could be a problem IIRC, the liveCD tries to read the partition table and decide if there is a usable swap partition there, as well as your current system to mount. Looks to me that I am unable to get F11's LiveCD to work on my system. I will download the DVD version and see if this works. What are you trying to do? Upgrade or Install? I recently failed getting the F11 DVD to work on either of 2 systems (1 upgrade [x86_64], 1 install [i586]). I *was* able to upgrade/install F10 on both systems and then use preupgrade to upgrade to F11. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: LiveCD problems
On 08/10/2009 05:34 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: That could be a problem IIRC, the liveCD tries to read the partition table and decide if there is a usable swap partition there, as well as your current system to mount. I have a 1TB HD, 5GB of swap, in an extended logical partition and at the end of the drive. I also have 500GB of free-space, in and extended partition, somewhere in the middle. Perhaps I ought to move swap into it's own primary partition nearer to the beginning of the drive? It shouldn't matter where the swap partition is, so long as its a partition. It will be found via its partition type code in the partition table. Partitions in the extended partition are standard stuff an easily found. What are you trying to do? Upgrade or Install? Install. I recently failed getting the F11 DVD to work on either of 2 systems (1 upgrade [x86_64], 1 install [i586]). I *was* able to upgrade/install F10 on both systems and then use preupgrade to upgrade to F11. The problem is, that I cannot upgrade F9/10 as multiple attempts to do so fails. I had to preupgrade my F9 laptop to F10 in order to get preupgrade to work to finally upgrade it to F11. (I had wanted to preupgrade directly to rawhide from F9 in anticipation of running F12 on it, but that also failed for me.) Its going to stay at F11 until I find/fix everything that's broken in F11 but worked in F9 I couldn't upgrade my F8 server directly to F11 either, so, right now, its sitting at F10 as preupgrade F8-F10 worked for me. I haven't yet taken the next step as I'm still cleaning up broken stuff on it. I also had recently received a computer that I wished to install F11 on. Its a Dell Dimension 3000 that I recently installed a new 250GB hard drive and upgraded to 1GB of RAM. All attempts to install F11 failed (both the install DVD and the Live Media). I *was* able to install F10 via the Live Media, and then preupgrade to F11 succeeded for me. Can't say I'm too happy with the current state of upgrading right now. Maybe things will be better with F12? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
