Re: mailing list losing mail?

2010-01-08 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 11:36 -0800, Mike Wright wrote:

 Mine is a qmail server that's been in service for years.  Neither it nor 
 its dns has been changed (that I remember) and all other mail seems to 
 show up almost immediately.  I've been on this list for a really long 
 time and never had problems before.
 
 Wonder what it could be?

Being that the email server(s) are moving to Fedora infastructure from
Red Hat server, maybe that might make a difference.   Id wait until
after this weekend when the move is completed, then evaluate how it's
going.

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Re: Installation plays hardball

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 13:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:13 +, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
   John == John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com writes:
  
  John As I said, you need to choose to use a custom partition
  John scheme, otherwise, Fedora will wipe every linux partition as
  John happened to you. Granted, it's not obvious, but if you've
  John been playing with linux for more than a couple
  John distributions, I'd think you'd already have some notion of
  John this by now.
  
  I've been using Fedora since its inception, and it wasn't obvious to
  me at all. I didn't actually trip up over it, as I was treading very
  carefully, but I must say I have plenty of sympathy for the OP.
 
 Agreed. The exact consequences of each choice need to be explained much
 more explicitly, including a specific warning of when the next step will
 be irreversible.

At the bottom of that window when you make your choice, there is a box
that says (paraphrasing) - Review modifications - that you can check to
make sure it's doing the right thing.  And if it's not, you can modify
what is going on and change it, or at least hit back button and choose a
different option. (this box won't appear if you customize obviously)


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Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:48 -0500, Randy Yates wrote:
 Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for
 asking fedora questions on #fedora?
 
   VileGent

Might try going back in, possibly unbanned now I think (I know, was
there and saw it).  Take it up with above nick on why was banned, not my
fight.

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Re: Installation plays hardball

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 08:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:

 At the bottom of that window when you make your choice, there is a box
 that says (paraphrasing) - Review modifications - that you can check to
 make sure it's doing the right thing.  And if it's not, you can modify
 what is going on and change it, or at least hit back button and choose a
 different option. (this box won't appear if you customize obviously)

Ya know, after reading this and discussing on irc, actually that box
needs to either move up higher or actually just be automatically
included in partitioning as sure it's not that much more bigger deal to
include?


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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:

 Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an
 xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background
 stretch.
 
 I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers,
 and find out who does the nouveau stuff for it; either that or the
 nouveau IRC.

xorg.conf file isn't used because the system is setup so that everything
(if possible)is detected automatically and setup/used depending on what
it finds (via some type of id that is used on various cards/monitors).
There are the exceptions I guess with dual monitors and certain setups
that normal users probably wouldn't encounter, as well as maybe certain
laptop setups.  I would say those type things might have to have an
xorg.conf file to get into more detail to get those type situations
working as they are suppose to.

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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:

 
 So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not,
 how does one force its use?

the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to
overwrite what is detected automatically. 

Example, if you want to install nvidia driver, then you have to list the
nvidia driver in the config.  Same as if you have a different type
monitor setup, or mode lines or whatever, just add the parts you want to
change in the .conf file and that should work.  I beleive the system is
setup to look for an xorg.conf file first, use what is in it, then auto
detect everything else.

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Epylog warnings

2009-12-27 Thread Mike Chambers
Anyone else see this when cron.daily is run?

/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/epylog/publishers.py:268:
DeprecationWarning: the MimeWriter module is deprecated; use the email
package instead
  import StringIO, MimeWriter

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550802

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Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 07:28 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:

 
 I use the proprietary Nvidia driver on two different workstations under
 F12, one at home and one at work, for two different reasons. At home, I
 have a MythTV server and my desktop is a front end, so I need VDPAU. I
 also have some 3D games, so I need 3D. Neither of those is supported by
 nouveau. I have no display-related problems with this machine. I have
 another machine that is mostly a server that uses the same relatively
 new Dell monitor, and so I just use nouveau on that machine (don't need
 3D or VDPAU). It happily does full HD resolution without problems.

Do/did you notice that your screen appeared a tad bigger once you went
to the propr. driver?  As in, your fonts (evolution as example) appear
smaller than before?


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Datacenter, git, and cvs

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Chambers
If I understand what is happening now (and over the past weekend), the
datacenter machines are moving to a new location, AND the package
building is moving from cvs to git (will be, or already in process)?

If so, mainly the git move, will we as users/testers/etc notice any
changes - via emails sent out, koji and the like - or is it all mostly
behind the scenes and package maintainers and the like will be the ones
who are affected?

Guess a summary of what to expect once it's all GO? 

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Evo messages don't refresh when deleting

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Chambers
Rawhide system upgraded from F12+updates as of today..

If you go to a folder and on the right side on top of the preview pane,
and click on an email and delete it, at times (although it seems not
every time, and maybe random), the next email isn't refreshed and/or
isn't shown on the bottom of the preview pane.  In other words, it
stills shows the body of the deleted email and not the new one.  But if
you were to click on a different email without deleting the one you just
left, it shows the correct email/body.

Anyone else seeing this?

evolution-bogofilter-2.29.3-1.fc13.x86_64
evolution-data-server-2.29.3-3.fc13.x86_64
evolution-help-2.29.3-1.fc13.noarch
evolution-2.29.3-1.fc13.x86_64

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Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS

2009-12-12 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 10:38 -0800, Alan Evans wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its
 massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like
 to keep the original OS intact and dual boot.
 
 My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer
 to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that
 it had the option, but I was terrified to try it.
 
 At this point, I've never booted the OEM hard drive. I just
 immediately plugged in the drive from my previous computer and booted
 F11 to check for basic hardware compatibility, so the machine's drive
 is yet-untouched.

Why not just install F12 on the *other* HD and leave the OEM one as is?
Least then if you have to reinstall Win7/restore it won't destroy
anything else.


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Re: FlashPlayer-X86_64 Download

2009-12-11 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:00 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
 
  I just dropped the libflashplayer.so file to the plugins directory in my 
  Firefox 
  profile to make it work: ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiledir/plugins
 
 Better to install nspluginwrapper on 64-bit system, too. Then move 
 libflashplayer.so 
 into /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and run, as root, mozilla-plugin-config -i. 
 It 
 probably needs to be rerun every time you update libflashplayer.so via a tar 
 file. 
 Not sure if you need to rerun when installing via rpm, once that finally 
 becomes 
 available.

You don't have to use nspluginwrapper as there are 64bit flash plugins
available now.  Just download it from adobe and stick it in the dir you
mentioned above and your all set.


Side Note: If your gonna use the newly created beta (10.1?) then you
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Re: Problem wih Installation

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 01:55 -0800, Mahmoud Abou-Eita wrote:
 Hello there,
 I've downloaded Fedora(x86_64) via BitTorrent.
 I'm running windows 7 on my machine. I have a folder containing 5 iso
 cds,
 a checksum file, and netinst!
 what to burn to a DVD to be able to boot from!
 Basically, my computer is a core 2 DUO 32-bit.
 Is this the appropriate version that I installed?

1 - Well, if you want to just use one cd/dvd then you need to download
the dvd.iso.  

2 - Now you need to turn those iso files to cd/dvd.  If you want to use
the cd's, then you have to burn *each one* (as an image) to a cd.  If
you want to use just one dvd, then burnt he dvd.iso (as an image) to the
dvd.

3 - Once you have those/that burned, just insert the dvd, or first cd
into the cdrom and reboot and away you go.

Side Note: You don't need the netinst file unless your going to do a
network type install, regarding http/ftp (these over internet) or nfs
(over local network).


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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:08 -0500, brad longo wrote:
 I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
 but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into
 bugzilla as they are urgent. 
  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for
 me.  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound
 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to
 log back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.
 
  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be
 logged out but this is random and I haven't found a way to
 repeat it.
 
  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.

Have you also updated your system since the install to make sure you any
included fixes/updates that didn't make it to final release?

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Dell wireless chipset

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Chambers
I have seen on some Dells (as well as my brother's new one yesterday),
that their wireless chip just says Dell wireless (give or take a
word/number or two).  What actual chipset/driver does that use and does
it work with Fedora out of the box?

Sorry for asking that type question here, but if I was to get one, it
would have F12 (or soon to be) on it which is what we are testing now.

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Re: Cheap Acer notebook on Newegg: What wireless chip does it use?

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:01 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
 I found this laptop[1] for a GREAT price but I haven't been able to
 find out what wireless chip it uses and I want to make sure it works
 under F11/F12. I've tried acer.com but they don't list the chip.
 Anyone have one or know where to find it?
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
 
 [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115654

Try this link, lists quite a few more details although it doesn't
actaully list the *brand name* of the wireless chip.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.279137

If details are hidden, should be a link under the #2 (the laptop itself)
that says Show details that you can click on.

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Re: Gnome panel crashes when changing color

2009-10-31 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:08 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:03 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:34 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 17:31 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 It seems, whether you use the bottom panel, or change the top panel to
 be the bottom (speaking after an initial rawhide install), and go to
 properties and change the color of it, it crashes.  It logs you out of
 gnome and into gdm, then fails to load and won't allow you to log in 
 to
 gnome again.
 
 Anyone else seen this lately?

If your panel crashes, that does not end your session. Try it:

killall -SEGV gnome-panel

If your session ends, most likely the X server crashed.
   
   ...in which case, boot to initlevel 3, login, startx, reproduce the bug
   if you can, if it dumps you back to the console, take a copy
   of /var/log/Xorg.0.log before starting X again. Error messages should be
   in there.
  
  No errors in there that I could find.  But in my .xsession-errors file
  there are plenty, which is attached.
 
 Oh yea, and removing my .gconf/apps/panel dir restores my panels to the
 original defaults and I am able to login again. 

Filed a bug against gnome-panel as not sure really what the cause is.
Also attached xsession-error.log to help.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532213


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Gnome panel crashes when changing color

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Chambers
It seems, whether you use the bottom panel, or change the top panel to
be the bottom (speaking after an initial rawhide install), and go to
properties and change the color of it, it crashes.  It logs you out of
gnome and into gdm, then fails to load and won't allow you to log in to
gnome again.

Anyone else seen this lately?

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Re: Gnome panel crashes when changing color

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:34 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 17:31 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
   It seems, whether you use the bottom panel, or change the top panel to
   be the bottom (speaking after an initial rawhide install), and go to
   properties and change the color of it, it crashes.  It logs you out of
   gnome and into gdm, then fails to load and won't allow you to log in to
   gnome again.
   
   Anyone else seen this lately?
  
  If your panel crashes, that does not end your session. Try it:
  
  killall -SEGV gnome-panel
  
  If your session ends, most likely the X server crashed.
 
 ...in which case, boot to initlevel 3, login, startx, reproduce the bug
 if you can, if it dumps you back to the console, take a copy
 of /var/log/Xorg.0.log before starting X again. Error messages should be
 in there.

No errors in there that I could find.  But in my .xsession-errors file
there are plenty, which is attached.

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Rawhide install nfs fails

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Chambers
I mirror rawhide on a F11 box, that I normally nfs mount from a rawhide
running system.  Tried to do an nfs based install from rawhide 2 days
ago and it failed, but installing via http from outside source (I don't
have http setup on the box) worked. So I guess I am asking is if nfs
based installs currently work, or at least do they work if the host is
an F11 box and the client will be a new rawhide box?

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Network not starting during install

2009-10-15 Thread Mike Chambers
When trying to install via rawhide the last few days, or at least within
last week or so, the network wouldn't come up, whether via thru
askmethod or normal defaults.  It doesn't matter whether dhcp or static
IP, still doesn't start and you get infinite circle of retry menus after
each attempt.

The hardware that might cause this if its that, is using the forcedeth
driver (built into motherboard).

Anyone else running into this problem?

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Re: Network not starting during install

2009-10-15 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 14:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 16:20 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  Anyone else running into this problem?
 
 No, in fact I performed many network installs over the past few days, on
 i386, x86_64, and ppc, and virt.  A variety of hardware, a variety of
 network devices.

Tried a rawhide install few minutes ago and this time tried dhcp from
the get go, and that seemed to work (although if trying static ip from
get go, it fails and so does dhcp afterwards).  But when trying to set
it up via nfs (via askmethod at start of cd), it fails.


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Re: Samsung CLX3175 Printer driver

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 22:09 -0400, Jim wrote:
 FC11
 Has anyone installed the Driver for the Samsung CLX3175 all in one printer.
 Where do you get a driver.

Try installing the gutenprint-cups package and then try installing your
printer.  It may have your printer, or at least within a model or two
possibly.

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Re: Evolution in koji not correct version?

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 20:10 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 08:02 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  Latest release in rawhide for evo is evolution-2.27.91-1.fc12.x86_64.
  The latest built in koji is evolution-2.27.5-3.1.fc12.
 
   Hi,
 thank you for noticing. I just built a 2.27.92, which had been released
 today, thus we are back on the right track.
   Bye,
   Milan
 

Got it, thanks.  That version also fixes the restore problem from the
bug below...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520013

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dracut error message with latest kernel

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Chambers
Booting with newest kernel, get a message right at boot startup below...

dracut warning: Theme charge not used/known/whatever.

And I also see rd_plytheme=charge in grub as a kernel paramater.  I am
sure if I remove it or change charge to whatever would fix it?

kernel-2.6.31-0.199.rc8.git2.fc12.x86_64



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Evolution in koji not correct version?

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Chambers
Latest release in rawhide for evo is evolution-2.27.91-1.fc12.x86_64.
The latest built in koji is evolution-2.27.5-3.1.fc12.

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Re: fc-10/windows xp installation

2009-09-03 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 20:16 -0400, pete b. wrote:
 What I'm doing is installing fedora-10 so I can dual boot either fc-10
 or windows-xp.
 windows-xp already exists using 26GB of 80GB on the HD.
 I go thru a few menus.  Then I get to the partitioning and have
 problems.
 
 I selected use free space of selected drives and create default
 layout.
 1 drive is selected and the same drive is chosen to boot from.
 
 The response is:
 1. Could not allocate requested partitions. Not enough space left to
 create
 partition for /boot.
 
 2. Have not defined a root partition.
 
 What is going on with this?  Is there a reliable fix?
 FYI pehaps I selected the wrong disk (I have two).  Is there a method
 to find out
 the manufacturer of a disk from windows?

Instead of letting the installer choose, try custom setup instead.  Just
check mark which drive you want to use at the top, in the partitioning
menu, and then just add new partitions.  I would just create a /boot, /
and swap partitions. Maybe a gig for /boot, double your memory for swap,
and the rest for /.

But mainly, it lets you create your own setup and you know what drive to
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Re: (SOLVED: sort of) Canon PIXMA MP190 drivers

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 07:36 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 07:21 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote:
   On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
Yes I know I should had done my research before buying, but wasn't sure
was gonna get it when I was at the store.  Anyway, got this printer,
plugged it in, was detected but said no drivers for it.  Any plans on
it, or way I can submit info from the CD to get them in?
   
   The gutenprint project supplies a driver for the PIXMA MP180 which might
   possibly work.
   
   Install the gutenprint-cups package for that.
  
  I have it installed, but can't figure out how to use the drivers from
  it? All I see in the printer setup/configuration (s-c-p I guess) is what
  looks like same drivers.  Is there a different way to go about it using
  gutenprint?
 
 Probably same thing, but also went through cups (localhost:631) and I
 don't see the pixma mp printers at all.  Guess they are called something
 else or I need to install something else?

Ok, it didn't install the first time, no idea what was up with that but
got it going this time.  It did find/install the 180 driver and so far
it seems to work.  Haven't scanned or copied yet but printing works.

Thanks, and guess this will work until the 190 comes out.



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Canon PIXMA MP190 drivers

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Chambers
Yes I know I should had done my research before buying, but wasn't sure
was gonna get it when I was at the store.  Anyway, got this printer,
plugged it in, was detected but said no drivers for it.  Any plans on
it, or way I can submit info from the CD to get them in?

Thanks,

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Re: F12 Alpha problems

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 04:24 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 Couple problems I see that may or may not be known yet..
 
 1 - Evolution won't accept the restore option (using the
 evolution-backup.tar.gz) when first started.  Keeps starting over (the
 initial setup menu) after it tries to restore the settings.  Also it
 seems that if you have filters installed and one of them is to a missing
 folder or something, evo will stop processing filters when it runs into
 it and won't bypass it and continue on.

Filed the bug below..

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520013

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Re: Cron Problem

2009-08-22 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 09:17 -0400, rgheck wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Here is a line from my cron file:
 
 55 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * audiogon.pl -f /tmp/rss/bw.xml 

You know you don't have to put in every hour you want to run it if you
want it done very so many hours such as below?

55 */2 * * * audiogon.pl -f /tmp/rss/bw.xml

Above line would run your cron every 2 hours at 55 minutes after.

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Re: IRC tool question

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote:
 Hi all;
 
 most of my clients use IM to communicate realtime, however I have one who 
 uses 
 their own IRC server. Is there a way I can setup KDE or a specific IRC chat 
 tool to alert me with a desktop popup message whenever my name is used in an 
 irc room?

Pretty sure Xchat does that.


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Re: Akmod-nvidia problem

2009-08-18 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 14:17 +0930, Tim wrote:

 I just tried akmod-nvidia on Fedora 11 for the first time, the other
 day.  I had to install kernel-devel myself, afterwards, before it could
 do what it was supposed to.  Surely it ought to drag that in as a
 dependency, then?  Installing akmod-nvidia certainly dragged in a pile
 of other things.

When you all say fresh install, does that include all updates (not
testing) as well?  Is this done before trying to install nvidia or
after?  

1 - Fresh install and configured (firewall, selinux, networking, etc) to
your liking
2 - Updates installed plus programs you like/want added
3 - Make sure your booted into the latest kernel you have installed
4 - Install akmod-nvidia and deps, then reboot.


Somewhat of how I do it and don't think I've had any problems installing
the akmod or any extra deps as it pulls it all in itself.


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Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-17 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 01:40 +1000, Eric Springer wrote:

 I understand the urge to ship empathy because it's included in gnome
 -- but let's be honest: if the two clients were judged side-by-side
 and rated, there's not a chance in hell empathy would win. : )

+1 on that, empathy sux and I couldn't get it to connect to yahoo  or
understand a button or two that it has.  Pidgin is def an upgrade.


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fonts turning white?

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Chambers
I have seen menus (firefox and evolution) and/or fonts turn white or
missing on various occasions, no matter what I was doing.  I've seen
mention of gtk2 for various reasons, although this may or may not be a
part of the problem.  And what I mean by the problem, is the fonts are
there and didn't leave, just not black no longer.  They just seemed to
fade out, or turn completely white and not be seen, or even be turned
white but can see the letters.

Anyone else experienced this and/or know what I am experiencing?

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Anaconda install askmethod

2009-08-11 Thread Mike Chambers
When trying to do an install against rawhide and/or F12 Alpha test
image, and using askmethod as in previous releases, it doesn't seem to
do the same thing.  Instead of going through and asking for network
configuration, type of install and location of image and such, before
the actual installer gui starts, it just asks for language and keyboard
types, then asks what partition and path the image is on.  I'm doign an
nfs install, so I have no way of answering that question.  Is askmethod
parameter during install going through a change or just a mishap?

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Re: Anaconda install askmethod

2009-08-11 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 14:35 -1000, David Cantrell wrote:

 What version of anaconda did you try?  I just recently fixed a problem with
 askmethod not doing anything.  If you booted from a CD or DVD but wanted to do
 a network install, the askmethod parameter was not working.
 
 That fix is in anaconda-12.12-1.

I'll give it a shot again here in the next day or so, maybe this weekend
if I get time and some personal things don't get in the way.  I believe
12.7 was the last version I tried with.

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Re: No sound in rawhide

2009-08-09 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 00:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 17:15 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  Sooo, I thought I saw mention about sound with current rawhide or close.
  Mine is just the ac97 or whatever built into the motherboard and after a
  straight up upgrade from F11 to rawhide it stopped working.  I take it
  known problem already?  Have anything to do with the boxes on the panel
  in the notification area being there instead of the device icons?
 
 Indirectly, probably yes. There's a workaround for that known problem
 posted on rawhidewatch - restart notification-applet (or whatever the
 exact name is) until you get the icons instead of the boxes (can take
 over 20 tries, for me at least). At that point you'll probably see that
 the sound volume icon has the mute symbol on it. PA seems to still be
 initializing things at 0% volume when you first login. It is for me,
 anyway. I'm guessing that's the case for you.

The icon got to where it would be there at login, but it was muted.  I
would turn it up, and still no sound.  Look a few moments later (if not
seconds at times) and it would be muted again.  

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No sound in rawhide

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Chambers
Sooo, I thought I saw mention about sound with current rawhide or close.
Mine is just the ac97 or whatever built into the motherboard and after a
straight up upgrade from F11 to rawhide it stopped working.  I take it
known problem already?  Have anything to do with the boxes on the panel
in the notification area being there instead of the device icons?

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Re: Evolution fonts

2009-08-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 10:58 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:

 could you add a bug report to https://bugzilla.redhat.com and attach
 screenshot of that you described above, please? I do not remember any
 such issue seeing myself, and I cannot even imagine what you mean.

Here ya go..

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515659


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crontab configuration

2009-08-05 Thread Mike Chambers
Ok, in F11 it had /etc/anacrontab file that I could edit to get my
cron.daily time to be set.  But I don't see that file and can't find
where the time is set that I want it ran from.  I believe it was 4am
this morning when it ran but I don't know where that time to run came
from?

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Evolution fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Chambers
Does anyone else see the fonts and/or window panes or preview panes
showing the email fonts or whatever in a larger size than in previous
versions?  In other words, if you highlight a folder on left pane, look
at top section on left side at the emails at how big they are.  Then
highlight an email and look at the bottom at the preview pane and the
fonts in the body of the email seem bigger than in previous versions.

Anyone else (IF I am explaining this correctly) seeing this?

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F12 Alpha Test install

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Chambers
Things I ran into when trying to install this test image and checking to
see if anyone else ran into them, or ask for confirmation on what I see
or shouldn't see.  BTW, install consisted of downloading x86_64 dvd iso
and it along with the images/install.img both residing in a mounted nfs
directory.  I burned boot.iso and used it to start the install from,
while the install.img I got from mounting the dvd.iso and copying it to
the proper location.

1 - askmethod - was able to select language and keyboard types, but it
didn't let me configure network or type of install.  It might have let
me do the previous later on if I had proceeded, but it asked me about
what partition and path to the install image to install from.  But mine
is on nfs and it didn't allow me to configure nfs at that point.

2 - My mouse was not detected at all during install.  Or at least, I
never saw the mouse arrow during it.  Had to use keyboard the whole
time.

3 - I used the GUI to do the install and when getting to type of
install, I tried to select NFS and listed my server and path to iso
image (yes dir is mounted), and it was looking for repo stuff for
instead of detecting the iso image itself.

Just a few things I ran into during install.

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Gnome responsiveness

2009-07-26 Thread Mike Chambers
Is it just me, or does gnome (don't have kde installed so can't test
that) seem really slow?  And I mean, like when hitting an button on a
menu to close it, to hit a menu such as File/edit/etc.. Seems most of
the time, it takes a number of tries to get the button or menu pushed or
whatever. Takes time to sometimes open/close a program.  I didn't have
any problems with F10 and my system isn't exactly ancient, as it's dual
athlon cpu, 64 bit, with 4Gb ram, with decently new nvidia card.  Have
tried ext4 and ext3 and no difference (both 64 bit os installed).

I even tried top and don't see anything running high, as processor or
memory.

Anyone else?

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Re: Vista Won't Boot From Grub Under F11

2009-07-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, rgheck wrote:
 I've just installed F11 on my wife's machine, which is some cheap 
 Gateway thing. Everything is working fine except that Vista (I'm hoping 
 to be able to get rid of it for her, but not yet...) will not boot from 
 grub. It starts to boot, then dies and dumps me into the System Recovery 
 thing. I was able to restore the MBR as Vista wants it to be, and then 
 it would boot fine again, and so I can use the popup boot chooser either 
 to boot Vista or to find my way into grub. But this is not really what I 
 want. I'd rather just use grub.

Am experiencing the exact same thing. I have used vista AND windows 7
and got the same result.  Vista does what you experienced, and Windows 7
gets a boot mgr missing. 

Goign to post both my grub.conf file and output of df -h to show how
they each relate to what root/partitions are and maybe someone can see
the problem..

[r...@scrappy ~]# more /etc/grub.conf 
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this
file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd1,0)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdb2
#  initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=12
splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 ro
root=UUID=b5dd6f24-c252-4d51-bb85-99d04f023247 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64.img
title Fedora (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 ro
root=UUID=b5dd6f24-c252-4d51-bb85-99d04f023247 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64.img
title Rawhide
rootnoverify (hd1,4)
chainloader +1
title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1

Notice above, Fedora and rawhide installs are both hd1 (sdb) and windows
is hd0 (sda).

[r...@scrappy ~]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 260G  3.8G  243G   2% /
/dev/sda11008M   50M  908M   6% /boot

F11 shows itself as sda when really it's sdb?

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Re: Triple boot windows, fedora, and rawhide

2009-07-12 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 05:35 +, g wrote:


 i am currently booting 4 installs, and use a '/boot' partition for all my
 installations.
 
 i have 1 installation that i use as my current work installation and i ran
 'grub-install /dev/fd0' from it. this gave me a floppy disk that i use
 after a new install to boot back to my work installation. [also, i will
 boot into a new install and run 'grub-install /dev/fd0' from it. this way,
 if i ever have problems and need to boot direct to a different install, i
 have it covered.]
 
 from there, i change '/etc/fstab' to mount my new installation under a
 path of '/hd/b/(partition)'. i then mount my new install, go to it's
 '/boot/grub/' and open 'grub.conf', then copy the 'title' lines to my main
 '/boot/grub/grub.conf'. then when i reboot, i have my new install among my
 choices.
 
 if you do not have a floppy drive, i imagine that same can be done with a
 a usb memory device.

What I ended up doing, was having my main work station set to dual boot
as normal, with grub installed to the mbr.  I then installed rawhide and
just installed grub to the first boot partition.  Then edited grub on my
main workstation with a stanza for rawhide.  Now, I can install kernels
or whatever on each install, and don't have to update grub manually.

Don't know if it's the easiest or best, but it seems to work fine
without having to share dir's and all that mess.

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Triple boot windows, fedora, and rawhide

2009-07-11 Thread Mike Chambers
I dual boot windows and fedora a normal basis and have no problems with
it getting setup.  What I would like to do now, is to setup a triple
boot as mentioned in subject line.  That can be one of two ways,
installing rawhide itself (problems lately and am watching for
installing to be fixed), or to install F11 and update to rawhide.

Now, I have never dual booted linuxes before, so this is the part I
don't understand how or what to do to get this right.  I tried this
morning doing this and sort of got it working, but few things I couldn't
figure out and have since resetup just dual boot windows and F11.

So, questions I would have to understand is this, and beware that I
already have space ready for install.  Anyway, what I guess I need to
know is...

1 - When going to install F11 (again) or rawhide, should either detect
my current windows/linux installs and ask to install grub and include
those stanzas?  (Neither detected the other, maybe still rewrite
problems for storage at this stage for this stuff?)

2 - Even if not detected how do I add the missing stanza and is it
basically same already ahve just with diff partitions and kernel
versions?

3 - Which grub is installed to mbr and is the other installed to the 1st
partition of it's install or what?  What should the mbr config and the
1st partitions look like?

4 - Should the two installs share /boot dirs so they can read the
kernels and auto update grub.conf when needed?  How does that work if
not?

P.S. I have been googling this (maybe I am wording it wrong) and not
getting real good info to explain my best course of action.  Am still
googling now to keep trying but am exhausting my efforts.

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Partitioning error during install

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Chambers
I have a 500G Sata Drive that I have F11 installed on half of it, using
3 primary partitions (/boot, / and swap).

Now, I want to run rawhide on the other half, via F11 and update to
rawhide (which I understand is not exactly running smoothly), or install
rawhide itself.  But the problem I run into (no matter which I install),
is when I get to the partition section.  I go to add a partition - not
as a primary (this should allow it to be an extended correct?) - and I
get an error and can't proceed any longer. 

So either anaconda is having problems with this setup (due to the
rewrite?), or I am doing something wrong causing it to crash.

BTW, when I say as or not as a primary partition, I mean I am actually
checking or not checking the make it a primary partition check box.

Any ideas?

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Re: Palimpsest Disk Utility is annoying ??

2009-07-06 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 22:20 -0400, William Case wrote:

 1) Palimpsest Disk Utility warns me one of my disks is slow spinning up.
 I know.  I bought it back when 40 GB was avant garde; it contains my
 WindowsXP; I don't use it very often; it is regularly backed up to
 another disk; and, I don't care if it dies.  I will buy a new one then.
 The disk passes all other tests.
 
 Because of a lack of manuals, can someone tell me how to turn it off.  I
 don't want to remove it.  It is generally a good utility to have.  I
 just want Palimpsest Disk Utility to stop nagging me about this problem
 on this hard disk.

Only thing I know of is to set it to not start upon login..

Menu/System/Preferences/StartUp Applications

Find it and just remove it or whatever and that should help.

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Re: OT: A note to the person in the next cubicle

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 13:06 -0400, William Case wrote:


 #5 Fedora 11 LAN installation
 
 I have a two computer (sometimes three computer) LAN in my house.  Both
 are F10 to be F11.  In the past, to keep it simple, I have installed the
 newest Fedora version on each machine by burning the .iso to disk(s) and
 then doing two separate installs.  I was thinking that this time -- just
 for the hell of it -- I would do something fancier like install F11 on
 the second machine using the LAN.
 
 The problem is: I have never used the LAN for anything real before.  I
 got the LAN connection up and working and that was about it.

If you can do it, maybe add/keep that 3rd computer on the LAN, setup as
a server for files/music/movies etc.. and use it and do network type
installs.  You could use it to also mirror updates and such from fedora
and then update your other machines as you wish. Download isos and keep
them on there and then do you installs via network.

Such some suggestions and options that you may like.

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Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 04:47 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote:

 When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears
 nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to
 make you believe that your email won't be divulged. Since I don't sleep
 well at all these days, I'm quite often absent-minded. So, I went back to
 Fedora's subscription interface in Firefox and, to my surprise, saw that
 Firefox remembered exactly what I had entered, my user name: LuckyDay.
 Well, fortunately, the support here is the best I've ever seen on any
 Linux group. Otherwise, I might not have considered the day so lucky :)

Not sure what your referring to, but there is *no* username used on any
of these mailing lists.  You sign up with the *email* that you want to
use on the mailing list, and *that* is sort of your username.  You can't
use something like username12 or name2notmention as that won't work.

Now, you can go to the options and select yes to have your email
hidden when someone (I assume an admin) tries to view the subscribers on
the list.

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Re: transfer evolution contacts

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 03:33 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:

 I am confused. Under the contacts view I see nothing called address book to 
 click on.
 Under Actions tab there are options to copy contacts somewhere but I am
 at a loss how you tell it where to copy them to.
 
 However, I found no option to load or copy them back anywhere.

Try File/Save address book as vcard.  Once you save it, then you can
start evo, go to file/import (or you may have to go back to contacts
view again) and import single file and select the list.vcf that you
saved earlier.

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Re: Installing F11 from local hard drive

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 10:04 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

 Thanks. It might not have been apparent from my original post, but I'm
 actually a long time Red Hat / Fedora user. Once you provided the link,
 I found part of what I was looking for here (specifically the Hard
 Drive option):
 
 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/ap-admin-options.html
 
 The key part that's missing is how to get to the old boot: prompt so I
 can use linux askmethod. There was a time when this information was
 included on the distribution CD, and actually made part of anaconda's
 early menus. 

Hit the tab key at the initial boot disk install options, and then you
can just type in askmethod (nothing else) and hit enter and away you go.
I do it this way as well on all installs I do (rawhide or release).

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kernel-2.6.29.5-206.fc11.x86_64 in koji

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Chambers
Installed this kernel, and upon boot it panics.  I can't find anything
in any logs, as it seems to happen upon first start of boot (as in
during the quiet part of boot) before the processes are started to
come up.

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Re: anacron: will the fun never stop? :-).

2009-06-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 07:55 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 So, I successfully got anacron eradicated, crontabs copied
 from fedora 10, wild randomness removed, and and sanity restored.
 
 Now the latest cronie update comes with a dependency
 on anacron to drag the pestilence back in.
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508457

Have you looked at /etc/anacrontab and/or the man page for it to see if
that helps get you what you want?

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Re: Fedora-11 rant

2009-06-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 01:21 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 In my experience so far, Fedora-11 is easily the worst,
 or at least the most difficult to install, of all Fedoras.
 
 Admittedly I have only tried installing it on one machine,
 a Thinkpad T23 with 1GB RAM.
 But I have tried installing in 6 ways, and all have failed.
 
 In 4 of the 6 cases, the problem seems to lie in the video driver.
 The video card in this machine is an S3 SuperSavage IX/C SDR card.
 
 The main symptom is that the system runs impossibly slowly,
 with keyboard input taking up to a minute to take effect.
 
 I should say that Fedora-10 runs perfectly on this machine,
 as does Windows XP.
 Also, when I access the machine remotely (through ssh)
 it seems to be running normally.
 
 My two other failures were with NFS installation
 (as far as I could see, the directory could not be mounted)
 and local install.
 On the later, I thought that it was sufficient
 for the DVD ISO file to be present on a local partition.
 But it seems that local installation
 now requires the ISO file to be dis-assembled?
 
 I guess the two questions I would be grateful for an answer to are:
 
 1. Could I use the video driver from F-10 ?
 
 2. Can one substitute a more basic driver for the one chosen
 during the installation?
 
 
 
 
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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:44 -0700, Craig White wrote:

  Yes thanks, I googled that. I find nothing intuitive about their GUI.
 
 maybe not but that hardly is a worthwhile discussion here. If you want,
 you can install Fedora on that system but a terminal is clearly not a
 GUI.

Heh, think the OP was referring to using the GUI to *find* a terminal,
and that was the problem.  

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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 12:27 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
 or /auto.misc is even better

I wanted to use auto mounts before myself, but the one problem I ran
into, was if the directory wasn't mounted, and I wanted to download a
file off the internet (via firefox, or even an ftp gui) and onto the nfs
share, it wouldn't be accessible.  I would have to get access it or
whatever to get it to mount/appear and then download.  So I use fstab to
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Re: x86_64 install stuck no driver found

2009-06-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 21:13 -0400, B Wooster wrote:
 Strange - says unable to find driver for this installation type - am
 booting off DVD, and it read the DVD, booted, and then says No driver
 found? Is that referring to some other device and not the CD/DVD
 drive?
 
 I also tried the i386 DVD, and that seems to proceed much more ahead,
 on same machine.
 
 This is for a GIGABYTE GA-73PVM-S2
 http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=MotherboardProductID=2734ProductName=GA-73PVM-S2
 and I understand it needs forcedeth for networking, but I tried
 selecting that on the Select Driver menu, but no luck, continue to
 loop around the No driver found, Select driver menus in the
 install. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

My motherboard has that network driver as well but I don't have to
select any drivers to do the install.  It's all detected during it.
Maybe you just need to try and install and let it try to detect it all?

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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:58 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

  Can smolt tell give me an
 indication of the percentage of 64bit capable systems which are
 running 32bit Fedora? Hmm.

Question is, how reliable would smolt be, if you don't know how many
more are *not* reporting to smolt anyway, via not on internet but on
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Re: Flashplayer crashes on initialization (i386)

2009-06-16 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 09:31 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On 16/06/09 09:28, Tarjei Knapstad wrote:
  2009/6/16 Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com:
 
  Is anyone else experiencing crashes like this?
 
  Can you maybe give the link to the particular flash content,
  If you feel comfortable with that?
 
 
  Doesn't matter what content it is, take this link for instance:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlbBgQHPqo
 
 
 Works fine here
 
 flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386
 firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64

Works fine here too, I see the video with no problems.

firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64
flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-1.x86_64

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Re: F11: Samsung laser printer no longer works: client-error-document-format-not-supported

2009-06-16 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 06:47 -0700, Colin Brace wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Yesterday I upgraded my system from F10 to F11, and I now see my laser
 printer no longer works; it is a Samsung ML-1640, which worked fine under
 F10. Looking in /var/log/cups/error_log, I see the following lines:

Maybe try removing the printer and also disconnecting the cable.  Then
try adding it from scratch (plug it in and let them decide) and see what
happens?

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Re: F11: Samsung laser printer no longer works: client-error-document-format-not-supported

2009-06-16 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 17:38 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 06:47 -0700, Colin Brace wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Yesterday I upgraded my system from F10 to F11, and I now see my laser
  printer no longer works; it is a Samsung ML-1640, which worked fine under
  F10. Looking in /var/log/cups/error_log, I see the following lines:
 
 Maybe try removing the printer and also disconnecting the cable.  Then
 try adding it from scratch (plug it in and let them decide) and see what
 happens?

let them decide?  WTF?  plug it in and let the OS detect and install the
drivers and see what that does.

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Re: FC11: Unable to add a printer

2009-06-10 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 09:51 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote:
 Dear Fedora users,
 
 I've just installed FC11 x86_64.
 
 When I try to add a new printer with system-config-printer (as root),
 I get the following error message after clicking the Apply button (in
 the last step of the New Printer wizard):
 
 --- [error] ---
 Unauthorized request (addPrinter)
 You are not authorized to carry out the requested action.
 --- [/error] ---
 
 The step I've done are the following:
 1. From a root account, run the system-config-printer
 2. Click on New button
 3. Select the Network Printer - AppSocket/HP Jet Direct
 4. Insert the IP address and click on Forward
 5. Select the HP Laserjet 4250 Postscript [en] (recommended) driver
 and click on Forward
 6. Add the Printer Name, Description and Location and click on Apply
 7. Error!!

Try running it as regular user and just give root's password when it
needs extra privileges and see if that works.

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Re: Flash-plugin for F11 x86_64

2009-06-09 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 13:37 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 
 http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Wonder why no updates since the beta release?  Sure would think a newer
update (even if not an official release) would be out by now.

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Re: do I have to worry about these disk errors?

2009-06-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 16:41 +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:

 You can verify the diagnosis with
 
 # smartctl -A /dev/sda
 
 If you have a nonzero number in one or more of the following fields
   Reallocated_Sector_Ct
   Current_Pending_Sector
   Offline_Uncorrectable
 then your hard drive is failing. Especially if you have something in  
 the latter two you should panic.

I was getting a report myself via the gui applet that my sd was failing
(this damn thing isn't even a year old), so I ran the command above..

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   105   094   006Pre-fail  Always
-   9758257
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   096   094   000Pre-fail  Always
-   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   100   100   020Old_age   Always
-   16
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036Pre-fail  Always
-   1
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   075   060   030Pre-fail  Always
-   39183414
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   099   099   000Old_age   Always
-   1247
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   097Pre-fail  Always
-   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   100   100   020Old_age   Always
-   15
187 Reported_Uncorrect  0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always
-   0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a   100   100   000Old_age   Always
-   0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   061   052   045Old_age   Always
-   39 (Lifetime Min/Max 37/41)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   039   048   000Old_age   Always
-   39 (0 20 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   065   061   000Old_age   Always
-   52230011
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age   Always
-   0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age
Offline  -   0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   200   000Old_age   Always
-   0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x   100   253   000Old_age
Offline  -   0
202 TA_Increase_Count   0x0032   100   253   000Old_age   Always
-   0

Hopefully didn't get messed up and not wrapped.  Basically I see a 1
where the Reallocated_Sector_Ct is.  Is this thing going bad?

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Re: how to install windows after fedora

2009-06-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 08:28 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 00:43 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
  use kvm and install windows inside fedora.
 
 I dual boot windows and Fedora (in that order).  I would like to keep
 Windows around, but wondered if doing it this way instead of dual
 booting would be better?  Does it act like windows in the same way, as
 in like recognizing hardware like it does with dual boot and so on?
 And, um, uh, how the heck do you access/start windows when in a kvm or
 whatever?

Solved, sort of.

Got virtualbox installed, setup , and Windows 7 RC installing as I type.
I DID IT, GO ME!!! (hehe).

Guess one way to use windows if have to.  Cept, I guess if my
workstation is screwed up, unbootable, whatever, then virtual box is in
the same boat and does me now good?

Hrm, maybe dual boot is still needed.

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Re: how to install windows after fedora

2009-06-06 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 00:43 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
 use kvm and install windows inside fedora.

I dual boot windows and Fedora (in that order).  I would like to keep
Windows around, but wondered if doing it this way instead of dual
booting would be better?  Does it act like windows in the same way, as
in like recognizing hardware like it does with dual boot and so on?
And, um, uh, how the heck do you access/start windows when in a kvm or
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Re: Problems sending Emails

2009-04-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:16 -0400, Jim wrote:

 Your error says basically the email address you are sending to doesn't
 exists, Recheck the address and spelling making sure they are correct.
 also check for a space you may have inserted before the recipient's
 user name in the email address. I have found that problem on
 customers' machines when I owned an internet service. If spelling is
 correct and no spaces or periods in the address then confirm the
 proper email address with the recipient. 

He could also have his friend to send an email, then reply to it and see
what happens?  Or he gets the same error no matter what and already
tried it?

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RE: Email Application for Fedora

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:07 +0800, Edwin Tan wrote:
 Hi Joachim Backes,
 You can also try spicebird
 
 http://www.spicebird.com/
 
 Spicebird is your one platform for many collaboration needs. It provides
 e-mail, calendaring and instant messaging with intuitive integration and
 unlimited extensibility.
 
 http://www.spicebird.com/download

That program looks pretty nifty.  Someone should see about maybe
packaging that up for some folks.  Looks like a good alternative to
evo/thunderbird/kmail maybe.

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2 sata drives using 1 cable

2009-04-16 Thread Mike Chambers
I tried googling this question and not having any luck.  And not being
the hardware expect, thought I would ask here.

I have 2 sata slots on my MB, 1 goes to my dvd player, the other to my
HD.  And I do have one IDE slot to use.

Now to the question.  What I want to know, is if 1 sata HD can slave off
another sata HD?  Like using IDE drives and using one as master, and one
as slave, both using same IDE cable, with just more than one connection
on it? Of course, not sure I see another slot mentioned in the BIOS, so
maybe it's a mute point?

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Re: NM fails to connect when booting ?? -[SOLVED]

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 00:24 -0400, William Case wrote:

 I agree completely.  The problem seems to be in the NetworkManager
 Applet.  First, there is no manual.  Secondly, it seems to lack any
 ability to affect the function of NetworkManager -- at least at the
 simplest level.  I can't use it to disconnect, if for some reason I
 might want to (eg. tweaking, playing around, etc.).  Even when I use the
 edit function - Edit Connections - all the editable fields are greyed
 out.  To me that is where an ordinary user would think to alter the
 ifcfg-eth* script.  It seems to be just a front end gui for nm-tools
 which in turn is only a reporting program.

Can't you just right click and uncheck the box that has Enabled
Networking to turn it off and then recheck again when want back online?

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Re: DST, will Fedora change the time on the fly?

2009-03-08 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 21:36 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 My concern is that the clock will be moved forward one hour, will it happen 
 by itself in Fedora or do I need to update a package like tzdata?

Woke up this morning and voila, the computers (linux and windows) were
the only things that changed by themselves.  I actually forgot about it
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Re: Howto configure a static IP?

2009-02-18 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:14 +0100, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've just installed Fedora10 and after the KDE4.2 update everything
 seems really smooth.
 By the way thanks for including the nouveau driver :)
 
 However we have static IPs here, so I disabled NetworkManager and set
 up eth0 manually using system-config-??.
 That works well, but now some applications think they are not
 connected to the internet (firefox, system-config-software), I guess
 because they depend on NetworkManager.
 
 Is there a way I can setup NetworkManager to use static IPs, or (I
 would prefer that route) to tell applications that they should not
 depend on NetworkManager for internet connectivity?
 
 Thank you in advance, Clemens

If you did disable NetworkManager (and yes you can setup static IP's,
and if system-config-network isn't doing it, try
system-config-network-tui as there used to be problems with the gui
method or something), make sure you enable network.

service NetworkManager stop
chkconfig NetworkManager off
service network start/restart
chkconfig network on


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[Fwd: Re: firefox update bad]

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Chambers
For some reason this didn't go through or something, so forwarding it to
make sure it went through to the OP..

 Forwarded Message 
 From: Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net
 Subject: Re: firefox update bad
 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:48:25 -0600
 
 On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 21:05 +0100, Roman Maeder wrote:
  today there was an update to firefox, firefox-3.0.6-1.fc10.x86_64.rpm.
  Now, when I try to run it, it just exits without any message.
  
  How can I get back a working firefox? The mirrors no longer carry the older 
  version. I tried to install the original version, 
  firefox-3.0.4-1.fc10.x86_64.rpm
  but it would list a ton of i386 (not x86_64) packages as dependencies.
  No good.
 
 Try here..
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=75052
 
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Re: xorg.conf

2009-01-21 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 17:04 +, James Harrison wrote:
 I have an nvidia video card built in to my mother board.
 
 I had to use system-config-display to create one. 
 
 The system would not detect my Viewsonic 90 monitor, so I only had
 800x600 screen resolution. I had to manually select it the monitor.
 
 Its OK now though. I got it working at 1280x1024

You need to go to bugzilla and file a bug against xorg to show that your 
monitor wasn't found.  You may need to have a copy of your xorg.conf file 
(since you have one now), and xorg.log file and attach them both.  That way 
that problemw will get fixed for future.

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Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote:
 What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with 
 Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm 
 hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again.  But printing 
 and the inability to sync up with my Palm Lifedrive are the major 
 holdups for that. I can probably live without the Livedrive...but I do 
 need to print

HP printers seem to be very well supported.  Also I think Brothers
printers are as well.  I don't know about Lexmark, but they may be
supported good now, or at least better than before.

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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

2009-01-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 09:12 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:

 If you don't like Network Manager, just remove it.
 
 It worked for me on one machine but the other it wouldn't enable the 
 network on boot.  I have not tried the static IP with NM on F10 yet.  It 
 is working quite well on F7.
 
 I run a static IP on this machine and I need the network at boot time so 
 I just configured the network normally and removed network manager.

You don't have to remove the service if you don't want to run it.  Just
disabling it is enough and will not affect your system if using network
service.


 Note that system-config-network didn't set the network properly.  I had 
 to manually change /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 manually.

I am wondering if it's NM/The UI (or at least the way it interacts with
the config files) that is the problem?  As in, if you try using
system-config-network-tui  it seems to write everything correctly and
not screw it up.

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Re: whoisd for Fedora?

2009-01-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 16:34 -0200, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
 if there are no rwhoisd in fedora, then I can package it or help you
 to package, what's your choice ?
 
 Can you give more details about rwhoisd ?

The user is asking for an equivalent package to rwhoisd in Fedora that
acts/does the same thing.  Not if he/she needs to package it.

http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/

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Re: backup of my / filesystem

2008-12-23 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 11:54 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 
 Sorry the previous file was an old one - this is the correct script
 http://www.nabble.com/file/p21150355/backall backall 

So your script backsup what is in the list= line?

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Wireless Printers

2008-12-15 Thread Mike Chambers
How do wireless printers stack up for linux?  Is HP the main one being
Open sourced and all?  What about Lexmar?

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Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow

2008-12-06 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 18:52 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 In F10, Evolution's filtering of incoming mail takes forever--much
 longer (according to my impression) than in F8.  In addition, I
 frequently see errors related to checking for junk mail along the lines
 of: Pipe to spamassassin failed.  The same thing happens if I use
 bogofilter in place of spamassassin.
 
 Anyone else seeing this behavior?  Any suggestions for
 fixes/workarounds?

I experienced the same thing in regards to the junk mail issue and
bogofilter (didn't try spamassassin).  I haven't installed
evo-bogofilter on this last reinstall due to I know it errors out (maybe
not everytime, but most of the time IIRC).

I don't remember if there was a bug filed for it or not.

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Re: Help with DNS hell

2008-12-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 12:32 -0200, Andre Costa wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having a *real* hard time trying to use F10 due to DNS problems
 [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756] (not to mention
 NetworkManager being unable to manage static IPs and s-c-n screwing
 network mask configuration[*]). As if that was enough, I can't seem to
 be able to configure a local DNS cache using dnsmasq, for some unknown
 reason (I've tried lots of workarounds trying to get me out of this
 DNS hell, so it's probably partially -- or totally -- my fault).

I have NM with static IP working just fine.  Using the GUI may or may
not be causing the problems (as in, not writting to correct files or not
getting it correct or whatever), but you can try to get around it or
using a little simpler way to help?  Try running
system-config-network-tui and that should write the correct info. Then
edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever your using)
and make sure your IP, netmask, gateway, etc stuff is correct.  You also
need your DNS info in there as well so NM can pick it up.  If using NM,
it overwrites resolv.conf when it starts/stops, so no use editing
resolv.conf manually.

Here is a sample of mine with minimal stuff that works if it helps..

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 
# nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
DNS1=192.168.1.2
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
HWADDR=00:1b:fc:5e:53:18
IPADDR=192.168.1.3
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
ONBOOT=yes
SEARCH=miketc.net

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Re: Firefox Loses DNS in F10

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 09:45 -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
 I've been seeing a weird problem on F10 in Firefox on a fresh install 
 onto my daughter's machine. Frequently, after using Firefox for a bit, 
 it seems to lose its ability to do DNS lookups. Every URL reports not 
 found. Shutting it down and reopening solves the problem. So it's just 
 Firefox, not the whole system. Any ideas?

Actually I've seen that too, but since running my own network, thought
it was something on my end.  Wondering if it's something else now that
you are also experiencing it?

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Re: F10: too many Network headaches

2008-11-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 15:25 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

 system-config-network refused to let me set the subnet mask and bcast
 address correctly.  I tried several times and even exited and
 restarted.  I finally just emacs-ed
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and then did a service
 restart networking.  I'm not sure what was up with
 system-config-networking messing up the netmask like that.

If problems (for you and others), there is always
system-config-network-tui and it *just works* and doesn't (least, I
don't think so) mess anything up that I can see.

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Re: F10 flat out rocks...

2008-11-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 18:58 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 
 I would like to say the same, except for one machine.  It is freezing all of 
 the time, I already had a kernel oops on it :(
 
 I see the following message, I have sent it to list(fedora-test-list), but it 
 was ignored :(  Maybe I am the only one that is suffering this.  
 
 On 9 out of 10 machines, I have Fedora 10 running beautifully, but on this 
 machine (x86_64 that is not the case)

Unless you have 4GB of Ram, and are truly using/needing 64bit apps, why
not try 32bit and see if any better luck?

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Re: F10 nfs installs

2008-11-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 16:44 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
 Two related questions:
 
 I created a bootable CD from images/boot.iso on the F10 DVD iso.  I put the
 iso file on my fileserver, then booted from the bootable CD that I just 
 created
 and told the installer to do a NFS install and pointed it to the directory on
 my fileserver where the iso image was.  It complained that it can't find the
 files and keeps adding images/install.img to the path that I entered.
 Therefore, I'm thinking that the nfs installer can no longer look inside of 
 the
 iso image to find the files but I will now have to copy the files out onto a
 real directory on the fileserver so the installer can find them.  The nfs
 installer used to be smart enough to just look inside of the iso, so has that
 capability gone away?
 
 Second, there used to be a file called images/diskboot.img that you could just
 copy to a usb flash drive using dd which you could then boot from to do a nfs
 install.  That file seems to no longer be present.  I would prefer not to have
 to install from a live image but rather to just do a regular nfs install 
 from
 my fileserver, so how can I create a bootable usb flash drive to make that
 happen?

Try the askmethod paramater at boot up and see if that lets you do it.
I do NFS installs via boot.iso on cd all the time, and the askmethod is
how I did it successfully for F10.

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Re: F10's name ??

2008-11-26 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 11:53 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:48:15AM -0500, William Case wrote:
  Hi;
  
  Dumb little question.  I have used Fedora's name (eg Sulphur, Werewolf
  etc.) to create a directory for each new version of the downloaded
  Fedora ISO image.  I would like to continue to do that although it
  obviously is not necessary.  So -- what is F10's name and where can I
  find it on the Fedora Wiki? I have looked.  Is Fedora dropping the use
  of different names for each new version?
 
 Not at all, this release is named Cambridge.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases

Wondering if the name should be there with the version, on at least the
main Fedoraproject.org home page?  Maybe not everywhere F10 is
mentioned, but the main home pages should?

*shrug* just thinking outloud is all..

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Cambridge Launched to Explore Solar System (Fedora 10)

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Chambers
As I don't recall this being forwarded to this list, thought I would
anyway just to make sure you all got the announcement.

Have fun,

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 Forwarded Message 
 From: Jesse Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-to: fedora-list@redhat.com
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cambridge Launched to Explore Solar System (Fedora 10)
 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:45:18 -0800
 
 DATELINE: 2008-11-25
 
 KEY FINGERPRINT: 61A8 ABE0 91FF 9FBB F4B0 7709 BF22 6FCC 4EBF C273
 
 LOCATION: GEOSYNC ORBIT, FEDORA SPACE STATION VIA GLOBAL IRC NETWORK
 
 BROADCASTING: FREEDOM FRIENDS FEATURES FIRST
 
 (Cue J. Strauss' Blue Danube.)
 
 THIS IS FEDORA SPACE OPERATIONS ANNOUNCING with great pleasure the
 successful launch of the new ship, Fedora 10: Cambridge.
 
 Strapped into the pilot seats are the latest GNOME (2.24) and KDE (4.1),
 accompanied on their amazing journey by an all star crew of glitch free
 audio, better printing and webcam support, and a new faster graphical
 startup.
 
 Also on this ride are wireless connection sharing and the next evolution
 in PackageKit, hooking through your multimedia applications to help
 install supporting software (codecs).
 
 For developers and system administrators on this mission, we have built
 in appliance tools, Eclipse 3.4, NetBeans IDE, improved virtualization
 management with remote installation and storage capabilities, RPM 4.6,
 and new security auditing toolsets.
 
 Please remember to polarize viewports to properly enjoy Cambridge's
 brand new graphics theme, Solar, shining on the desktop. Also on this
 flight is a new lightweight desktop environment, LXDE, joining the more
 recent desktop envionment crew member, Sugar (from the starship OLPC
 XO), and the venerable GNOME, KDE, and XFCE.
 
 We are now leaving drydock for a 13-month mission of innovation and
 exploration. Crew members and guests are invited to the forward lounge
 to use, study, modify, and redistribute.
 
 Get your copy of Fedora 10 today:
 
 http://get.fedoraproject.org/
 
 Join the many thousands of Fedora particpants and contributors:
 
 http://join.fedoraproject.org/
 
 If you missed the official launch, attend a Fedora 10 Launch Party near
 you:
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty
 
 
 
 
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Re: home folder and upgrading

2008-11-24 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 09:39 +0100, Henning Larsen wrote:

 Will I get my evolution mail and account-settings back?
 My firefox bookmarks?
 tomboy notes?

You can do as you are asking and just not format your /home partition
when doing the install and should be OK.

BUT, at the same time if you want a really fresh install, everything
type fresh to include /home, then evolution and firefox both have backup
plans built in so you can restore them without having to copy/move/paste
folders/files like you used to.  Don't know about tomboy notes though.

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Re: F10 Installation bypass NM

2008-11-23 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 19:13 -0600, David G. Mackay wrote:
 F10 is about to go out the door, and I have a question about
 installation.  Now that NM is included in anaconda, and pretty much
 required that you give it a DHCP address, is there some way to bypass
 it?  I generally like to assign a static IP on some of my machines.
 Some folks that get the installation media might not have a dhcp server
 on their network, or even a network.  Is there documentation on this
 somewhere?

You can still install via static IP, just not straight up as default.
If at the boot prompt you issue the askmethod parameter, it will let
you install the old way and setup networking towards the start.  And NM
will use the static IP like it should.  Did it with a rawhide install
week or so ago and running NM just fine on static IP.

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Re: Is anyone using ddclient under F9?

2008-11-23 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 01:01 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
 I just upgraded to F9 and to the newest version of ddclient-3.7.3 and it's 
 not working for me. Is anyone else having problems?
 
 It's starting up fine, but the cache file never gets created and the DDNS 
 server never gets updated.

Working fine here on my server behind a router, and it's using
F10/rawhide at the moment.

ddclient-3.7.3-1.fc9.noarch

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Re: any drawbacks to 64-bit versus 32-bit install?

2008-11-17 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:31 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Go with 64 bit.  I have gotten 3 machines with AMD64 processors and I have 
 installed Fedora 10 Preview with 64 bit version and they are working nicely 
 :)  It(64 bit) will make full use of the machines capabilities and if it were 
 not for the flash player and other proprietary stuff, 64 is the way to go :)

As pointed out in a separate thread, adobe has finally stared working on
and has an alpha version out of 64bit version of flash.  Check the
archives for the thread.  So that argument isn't relevant any longer?

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Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-28 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 19:58 +, Beartooth wrote:

   The printer (an HP PSC 1315v, also USB)) has been in one of those 
 ports for an age. My external DVD RW drive gets plugged into and out of 
 the other port all the time; but the printer stays on the same 
 connection. (The keyboard, mouse (which is indeed an hp), and monitor all 
 get shifted to one individual machine when I do an install or upgrade (so 
 that the monitor and PC can negotiate settings), and otherwise stay on 
 the switch.

I have the exact same printer connected via usb as well, but to my main
machine, not a kvm switch.  I think switching the switch from one
machien to another is causing the messages.

I have a suggestionAttach the printer to just one machine, and then
set it up to share and then connect each machine to it via the network.
That might help a whole lot and cut down on the messages.  I hardly ever
see those things if at all.

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Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-28 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:36 +, Beartooth wrote:

   Poking around, I can't tell# CUPS whether what I got into was 
 CUPS or not. $ cups, $ CUPS, # cups, and # CUPS all get command not 
 found. (rpm -q does tell me I have cups-1.3.9-1.fc9.i386)
 
   So I started looking in the Main Menu. The likeliest launcher, 
 afaict, points to /usr/bin/system-config-printer; is that it? I hit the 
 usual glass wall with that -- asking me things in jargon, as if being 
 English words made their technical sense plain.

Menu/System/Administration/Printing (which is same as
system-config-printer)

You can go both/two ways from the menu I think..

1 - Select on Server/Settings and look for Publish shared printers...
and check it.

2 - Find your printer, right click on it, and should be a menu with
shared and a box to check/uncheck.

You should have to save/reactivate or something afterwards.  That should
get your going or at least close.


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Re: 54 GB in /var/log!!

2008-10-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 07:39 -0700, Craig White wrote:

 
 read  = 4
 write = 2
 exec  = 1
 
 rwxrwxrwx
 ^
 |  |  |
 |  |  other
 |  group
 owner
 
 thus rwx__ is 700

  rw_rw_rw_ is 444

Above should be 666?

  rw_r__r__ is 644
 



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Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:40 +, Beartooth wrote:

 and I did. Starting after that, I get this, so far (without, nota bene, 
 having laid a finger on any usb anything, much less tried to fax anything 
 anywhere) : 

You sure you don't  have one of those All in One type printers or
something attached via usb to your machine?

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services wizard

2008-10-19 Thread Mike Chambers
Hi there,

Was thinking and wondering, if it would be good to have configuration
wizards for services that you want to configure (such as email server
(sendmail/postfix), http, and so on) that would ask basic questions and
would go certain directions (or just one way) depending on how much you
answer?

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Re: Auto Log in screen

2008-10-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:56 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 Steve Friis wrote:
  In older versions of Fedora, there is a GDM tool that lets you set up so 
  that when the computer starts and gets to the log on screen it 
  automatically chooses the user, puts in the password and then runs.
  
  The problem is, GDM-setup no longer is there. Was this replaced with 
  something else? Was this left off of Fedora 9 for a reason?
  
 
 Hi
 
 I post the same question, and the answer :
 edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
 
 however AutomaticLogin did not work properly as released, your system 
 will need to be 'yum updated' for it to work properly.
 
 Add the section in the file :
 
 [daemon]
 AutomaticLoginEnable=true
 AutomaticLogin=your_username
 
 If you can't yum update the system there is a workaround via a timed login :
 
 [daemon]
 TimedLoginEnable=true
 TimedLogin=your_username
 TimedLoginDelay=0

GDM/Gnome changed it up some and it doesn't work like it used it, which
I believe was F8 and below.  F9 goes along with a new setup and new
paramaters that can be used.  Below is the URL that describes what can
be used now, in which auto logon is no longer used, but you can still
use timed logins as stated above.

http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration


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Re: Auto Log in screen

2008-10-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 19:13 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:

 The link above is interesting, but I can confirm that Autologin still works 
 with F9, by adding the following lines that I borrowed 
 from /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf on my FC2 install. Before suggesting this to Steve 
 Friis I rebooted F9, and was auto logged in to KDE. (never used autologin 
 before)
 
 [daemon]
 # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
 # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key
 AutomaticLoginEnable=true
 AutomaticLogin=djmons
 
 Steve replied (unfortunately sending the reply by way of the latest digest 
 he'd received, so the subject is the digest one), saying that those lines 
 work fine on his laptop, and was about to try it on his server, where he 
 needs autologin to work.
 
 Odd that the link above mentions nothing about autologin, but have confirmed 
 for myself that the above lines added to /etc/gdm/custom.conf on F9 still 
 work for autologin.

Thought, it works with kde, but what about gnome?  Have you or Steve
tried it with gnome desktop instead to see what happens?

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