How to run a php script which contains a pdf

2009-10-31 Thread Nigel Henry
I was trying to read an online tool catalogue, and noticed a PDF button at the 
bottom of the webpage. Clicked on it, and it opened the dialog box to 
download. What has been downloaded though is a .php script (27.3MB).

The properties shows that it contains a pdf document, but I've no idea how to 
run it, open it, or whatever needs to be done, to get to see the PDF.

Any suggestions folks.

Nigel.

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Re: How to run a php script which contains a pdf

2009-10-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 October 2009 21:29, Hiisi wrote:
 2009/10/31 Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr:
  I was trying to read an online tool catalogue, and noticed a PDF button
  at the bottom of the webpage. Clicked on it, and it opened the dialog box
  to download. What has been downloaded though is a .php script (27.3MB).
 
  The properties shows that it contains a pdf document, but I've no idea
  how to run it, open it, or whatever needs to be done, to get to see the
  PDF.
 
  Any suggestions folks.
 
  Nigel.

 Give us the link.

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http://www.isocele.com

It's a French site, and the online catalogue is what you want. The http 
version. PDF button is at bottom of page. I'd have used the flash version 
online, but it seems to want flash 10, and I've only got flash 9.0.256.

Nigel.

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Re: How to run a php script which contains a pdf

2009-10-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 October 2009 21:29, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Nigel Henry

 cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
  I was trying to read an online tool catalogue, and noticed a PDF button
  at the bottom of the webpage. Clicked on it, and it opened the dialog box
  to download. What has been downloaded though is a .php script (27.3MB).
 
  The properties shows that it contains a pdf document, but I've no idea
  how to run it, open it, or whatever needs to be done, to get to see the
  PDF.
 
  Any suggestions folks.
 
  Nigel.
 
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 Try to rename it:

 mv FILE_NAME.php FILE_NAME.pdf


 and open it with Evince


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Renaming it has done the job, and it has opened with no problems.

Many thanks.

Nigel.

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Re: Fedora-11 No sound

2009-05-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 11:38, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:
 No soundcard in preferences  hardware  sound
 Just internal audio.
 How do I add\make it work.


   #sudo lspci


 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
 Controller (rev 02)


 Frank


Hi Frank.

Which make/model of PC/Laptop?

Have you anything audio related plugged into the USB, webcam, usb midi 
keyboard, etc, which may result in snd-usb-audio grabbing card0, thus 
stopping the onboard soundcard using card0, which is usually the default.

would you post the output of the following.

cat /proc/asound/cards
cat /proc/asound/version
lsmod | grep snd
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*

Have a look in alsamixer with the command below, and look for anything muted, 
or sliders down at zero.

alsamixer -D hw:0

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: Still having problems with my tv tuner -- need help

2009-05-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 09 May 2009 20:22, William Case wrote:
 Hi;

 tvtime gives me a great picture but no sound.

 mplayer gives me a terrible picture and no sound.

 (terrible = inverted picture with green background; just black and
 magenta for colours; and vertical lines running through it.)

 Is there a way to find out which video codecs etc. tvtime is using so I
 can duplicate them in mplayer.  tvtime -v doesn't tell me (I think) nor
 is mplayer -v helpful.

 I have tried the sound with PulseAudio installed and removed.  No
 difference.

enormous skip
 P.S.  I am starting a new thread because a lot of information has
 changed since my original thread.
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 Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1

Hi Bill.

I did a whole bunch of googling about your problem with the sound, and did 
find this on the v4l wiki for DVB. See below for link, etc.

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Cx88_devices_%28cx2388x%29

The suggestion is to load the following module, which affectively will create 
another soundcard for capture from the TV card.

modprobe cx88-alsa

For me, that also installed the cx88 module, and another bunch of modules 
related to v4l. As I don't have your TV card, or any TV card on this machine, 
I suspect the only extra modules you will see in lsmod is cx88, and 
cx88-alsa. You may now see 2 cards listed from the following command.

cat /proc/asound/cards

If by some miracle you do, alsamixer as below should access controls for the 
second card.

alsamixer -D hw:1(F4 again, if there are any capture controls)

The wiki link above suggests setting an alias line for cx88-alsa, and an 
options line so that on bootup it's set as card1. Some modules create 
problems and try to grab card0, which would create a conflict with your 
onboard soundcard which is set to use card0.

There is no /etc/modprobe.conf file in F10, and not being sure where to add 
lines in /etc/modprobe.d's files, I simply created a modprobe.conf file 
in /etc, so that I could place an options line for my usb midi keyboard, and 
it appears to work ok. I would suggest that you might do the same, and add 
the following lines to it.

alias snd-card-1 cx88-alsa
options cx88-alsa index=1

I don't know if the alias line will work for you, it didn't for me, but I 
don't have the TV card, so all the other stuff that your lsmod shows as being 
loaded, may be necessary for the alias line to work correctly.

If after a reboot, the cx88, and cx88-alsa modules are not loaded, I would 
suggest adding the following line to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, reboot, and check 
lsmod.

modprobe cx88-alsa

Also check cat /proc/asound/cards again, and see if 2 cards are showing.

This is only a shot in the dark, but the cx88-alsa module may fix the sounds.

All the best.

Nigel.




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Re: Hi, I need your help! i don't have sound...

2009-05-08 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 08 May 2009 18:13, Monchs wrote:
 Hi. I have a problem with the sound, I explain to them, have a sound card
 pci that does not recognize me the system. And neither with the integrated
 one I have sound. The specifications are the following ones according to
 hardware lister: My MB Pc Chips M810DLU

 The sound card is:
 product: CA0106 Soundblaster [1102:7]
 vendor: Creative Labs [1102]

 the integrated:

 product: AC'97 Sound Controller [1039:7012]
 vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] [1039]

 If they need more information only ask for it!!
 thanks!

Which Fedora version are you using? Fedora8,9,and 10 all have pulseaudio 
installed, so opening alsamixer on the CLI will by default only show the 
pulseaudio control/s. Open alsamixer as below to see all controls for your 
cards.

alsamixer -D hw:0   (this will show controls for the onboard card if it is 
card0)
alsamixer -D hw:1   (this will show controls for the creative card, if it 
is card1)

Something may be muted, or sliders may need to be pushed up. The M key toggles 
mute/unmute.

Please post the output of the commands below.

cat /proc/asound/cards
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

The first command above will show if both cards are detected, and are in the 
correct order, with the onboard one as card0, and the creative one as card1.

Post back the above stuff first, so that we can see how things are at the 
moment.

Nigel.

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Re: Installing a module

2009-05-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 00:55, William Case wrote:
 Thanks Nigel;

 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:06 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Sunday 03 May 2009 20:04, William Case wrote:
   Hi;
  
   I have had difficulty getting tvtime to work.  There is no sound and
   the channel changer wouldn't work.
  
   I have solved the channel changing problem by modprobe tuner -- but I
   can't get it to stick i.e. I need to put a line into modprobe.d.  How
   do I do this?
  
   I have checked man modprobe.d --  install modulename command...
   Will install tuner do or do I need a specific command? If so what
   would it be?  I have no dependencies etc.
  
   As well, there is file /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist.  I assume
   this is where I add the line -- but no mention of modprobe.conf.dist is
   made in man.
  
   Just some suggestions would be helpful regarding sound.
  
   I am using alsa
  
   My tvtime.xml is set to :line
   I have no actual external line-in from my Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1800 PCIe
   tv tuner card to my sound.
  
   My Volume Gui is set to HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
   with volume sliders for Master (60%), PCM (100%), Front (100%), Line-in
   (100%), CD (0 %), PC Speaker (100%)
  
   I have been told that tvtime automatically finds my sound mixer driver
   and after that all sound problems are with alsa !?
  
   What other sound configurations should I experiment with?
  
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   Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
   Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1
 
  Hi Bill.
 
  I probably can't help much as my card is an Hauppauge WinTV Express.
  Analogue TV (antenna), and the card has an audio out for connecting to
  the line in on the soundcard.

 People keep asking me that.  On a previous TV tuner I did need a line
 from tuner audio-out to sound audio line-in so I know what you are
 talking about.  But none was provided with the Hauppauge tuner kit; PCIe
 is not supposed to require one (as I understand it) and my WindowsXP
 setup works fine without one.

  Anyway can you send the output from the following before you
  modprobe the tuner module.
 
  lspci -vn
  lsmod(the whole lsmod please)

 The output is attached below.

  To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
  an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
  in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
 
  modprobe tuner

 Of course.  I got so carried away with trying to
 modify /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist I forgot the obvious.

  Not sure on the sound problem as I don't know how the sound is routed to
  the soundcard from your TV card. Open alsamixer as below, and press F4
  which will show the capture controls. If your soundcard is an hda-intel
  one, there will be few controls showing, but maybe it's worth a fiddle
  with what's there.

 Alsamixer shows me PulseAudio, Capture with only one channel (Capture),
 and, recording off.  I am going to fiddle.

  Also F10 has got pulseaudio installed, and perhaps pulseaudio has
  something to do with the lack of sound from the TV card. Do the sounds
  work ok apart from the TV card?

 Yes.

  I never got tvtime to work well, and use xawtv myself.

 I can't get mplayer or xawtv to work either.  I thought it was probably
 all the same problem so I might as well keep hammering away at tvtime
 until something works.  (I really haven't put an effort into xawtv yet.)


 Regards Bill
 Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1

Hi Bill.

Apologies. I forgot to add the alsamixer command so as to bypass the default 
alsamixer screen when pulseaudio is installed. The command below will open 
alsamixer and show all controls available for your soundcard. Again F4 will 
show the capture controls.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Your lsmod shows a bunch of modules loaded that are specific to the TV card. 
Quite why the tuner module isn't being loaded automatically, I don't know. It 
may be worth a look at dmesg, and see what is being loaded for the TV card. 
You may see some reference to the tuner module.

If you still can't get any sounds after fiddling with alsamixer, it may be 
worth disabling pulseaudio temporarily, in case it for some reason is not 
able to deal with sound output from the TV card. The command below as root 
will disable it.

yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

If your using KDE like me, kde-settings-pulseaudio will also be removed, so to 
re-enable pulseaudio you will have install both packages.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: Installing a module

2009-05-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 02:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
  an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
  in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

 What kernel is Debian running? /etc/modules was replaced by
 /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/* in newer the 2.6.x kernels.

 Mikkel

Hi Mikkel.

It's a different file I was referring to on Debian. It's simply named modules, 
not modules.conf as was on FC1 with the 2.4 kernel. You can simply add the 
names of modules you want to be loaded at bootup in /etc/modules on Debian, 
as below.

8139too
tuner

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Re: Installing a module

2009-05-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 00:11, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Tuesday 05 May 2009 02:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  Nigel Henry wrote:
  To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
  an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
  in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
 
  What kernel is Debian running? /etc/modules was replaced by
  /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/* in newer the 2.6.x kernels.
 
  Mikkel
 
  Hi Mikkel.
 
  It's a different file I was referring to on Debian. It's simply named
  modules, not modules.conf as was on FC1 with the 2.4 kernel. You can
  simply add the names of modules you want to be loaded at bootup in
  /etc/modules on Debian, as below.
 
  8139too
  tuner
 
  Nigel.

 Oh - then I think you are talking about the /etc/sysconfig/modules
 directory on later versions of Fedora. Again, you can have more then
 one file in the directory - one for each device you are loading
 modules for.

 Mikkel

I'll have to have a look at that tomorrow.

Nigel.

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Re: Installing a module

2009-05-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 03 May 2009 20:04, William Case wrote:
 Hi;

 I have had difficulty getting tvtime to work.  There is no sound and the
 channel changer wouldn't work.

 I have solved the channel changing problem by modprobe tuner -- but I
 can't get it to stick i.e. I need to put a line into modprobe.d.  How do
 I do this?

 I have checked man modprobe.d --  install modulename command...
 Will install tuner do or do I need a specific command? If so what
 would it be?  I have no dependencies etc.

 As well, there is file /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist.  I assume
 this is where I add the line -- but no mention of modprobe.conf.dist is
 made in man.

 Just some suggestions would be helpful regarding sound.

 I am using alsa

 My tvtime.xml is set to :line
 I have no actual external line-in from my Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1800 PCIe
 tv tuner card to my sound.

 My Volume Gui is set to HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
 with volume sliders for Master (60%), PCM (100%), Front (100%), Line-in
 (100%), CD (0 %), PC Speaker (100%)

 I have been told that tvtime automatically finds my sound mixer driver
 and after that all sound problems are with alsa !?

 What other sound configurations should I experiment with?

 --
 Regards Bill
 Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1

Hi Bill.

I probably can't help much as my card is an Hauppauge WinTV Express. Analogue 
TV (antenna), and the card has an audio out for connecting to the line in on 
the soundcard. Anyway can you send the output from the following before you 
modprobe the tuner module.

lspci -vn
lsmod(the whole lsmod please)

To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have 
an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below 
in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

modprobe tuner

Not sure on the sound problem as I don't know how the sound is routed to the 
soundcard from your TV card. Open alsamixer as below, and press F4 which will 
show the capture controls. If your soundcard is an hda-intel one, there will 
be few controls showing, but maybe it's worth a fiddle with what's there.

Also F10 has got pulseaudio installed, and perhaps pulseaudio has something to 
do with the lack of sound from the TV card. Do the sounds work ok apart from 
the TV card?

I never got tvtime to work well, and use xawtv myself.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: Problems sending Emails

2009-04-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 18:16, Jim wrote:
 Giuseppe Fuggiano wrote:
  2009/4/29 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net:
  FC10/KDE4.2/ Thunderbird
 
  Sending Email Out to AOL.com.
  When I send a Email to a person at AOL.com I get a email , Failure to
  Send , Has anyone had problems like this ?
  They say the reason they can't send is because of a  421 Error
 
  My ISP ATT says it's because of Thunderbird, So I just hung up on them.
 
  Hi Jim,
  Your question is not very complete. It would be better to know _who_
  emits that error and the complete string.  What your ISP ATT is saying
  exactly about Thunderbird?  The 421 error could refer to many
  protocols...
 
  Check these parameters:
   * The SMTP server should be a valid.
   * Also the recipient.
 
  Bye

 I did verify the smtp settings with my ISP and they they are correct.
 By reading the Failure email I'm getting back, below is the part of
 the email.




 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
 addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work
 out.

 x...@aol.com:
 64.12.222.197 does not like recipient.
 Remote host said: 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
 Giving up on 64.12.222.197.

Some years ago when my son had an AOL account, I had problems from time to 
time e-mailing him. It turned out that if there was loads of spam being 
allowed through by your ISP, and then turning up at AOL, AOL would block 
everything coming from your ISP until they did something about the spam.

Whether AOL are still doing that, I don't know, and your ISP is hardly likely 
to admit to you that they are being blocked by AOL because of spam.

It may be worth phoning your friend, and ask him/her to contact AOL, and ask 
if your ISP is being blocked.

Nigel.

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F10 locked up while installing dl'd updates

2009-04-05 Thread Nigel Henry
First I must say that the F10 freezup, was not F10's fault, but a continuing 
problem I have with my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, as it happens with other 
distros.

Back to the plot.

While the updates on F10 were installing, the machine decided to freeze. No 
keyboard, no mouse, no nothing, except a static image on KDE, like a 
screenshot. I had no alternative, but to press the reboot button.

When I've had this happen on Debian installs, I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and 
apt-get complains, telling me to run, dpkg-reconfigure -a. This fixes the 
problem with packages that were partially installed when the machine froze 
up, then running apt-get dist-upgrade again, the remaining packages are 
installed.

When F10 rebooted, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I use apt on Fedora), but 
apt-get complained about dependency problems due to duplicate packages on the 
system.

Apt-get gave the following errors.
E:  Transaction set check failed
E:  Handler silently failed

I tried various suggestions from apt-get, like, apt-get --fix-broken install, 
with no success.

After a serious session of rpm -e on the various packages that had duplicates, 
some 3hrs later, I had reduced the list of problem packages to zero, and ran 
apt-get dist-upgrade again, which now continued with installing the remaining 
packages.

The question is, is there some command I could have used on Fedora, similar to 
the Debian, dpkg-reconfigure -a, which is able to resolve problems with 
partially installed packages, when you get a power out, or in my case, the 
machine decides to freeze up, while installing the updates.

I had a good look in the man page for rpm, but couldn't see anything there 
that might help, but there may be other commands not in the man page of 
course.

As usual, thanks for any suggestions.

Nigel.





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Re: F10 locked up while installing dl'd updates

2009-04-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 05 April 2009 17:15, Craig White wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 17:10 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
  First I must say that the F10 freezup, was not F10's fault, but a
  continuing problem I have with my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, as it happens
  with other distros.
 
  Back to the plot.
 
  While the updates on F10 were installing, the machine decided to freeze.
  No keyboard, no mouse, no nothing, except a static image on KDE, like a
  screenshot. I had no alternative, but to press the reboot button.
 
  When I've had this happen on Debian installs, I run apt-get dist-upgrade,
  and apt-get complains, telling me to run, dpkg-reconfigure -a. This fixes
  the problem with packages that were partially installed when the machine
  froze up, then running apt-get dist-upgrade again, the remaining packages
  are installed.
 
  When F10 rebooted, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I use apt on Fedora), but
  apt-get complained about dependency problems due to duplicate packages on
  the system.
 
  Apt-get gave the following errors.
  E:  Transaction set check failed
  E:  Handler silently failed
 
  I tried various suggestions from apt-get, like, apt-get --fix-broken
  install, with no success.
 
  After a serious session of rpm -e on the various packages that had
  duplicates, some 3hrs later, I had reduced the list of problem packages
  to zero, and ran apt-get dist-upgrade again, which now continued with
  installing the remaining packages.
 
  The question is, is there some command I could have used on Fedora,
  similar to the Debian, dpkg-reconfigure -a, which is able to resolve
  problems with partially installed packages, when you get a power out, or
  in my case, the machine decides to freeze up, while installing the
  updates.
 
  I had a good look in the man page for rpm, but couldn't see anything
  there that might help, but there may be other commands not in the man
  page of course.
 
  As usual, thanks for any suggestions.

 
 yum install yum-tools

 package-cleanup --help

 Craig

Hi Craig.

As you see from the above, I'm using apt on Fedora. That said though, I will 
install the package you suggest.

Now I'm on dialup, and the problem I had where the machine froze up, was after 
downloading over 540MB of packages using apt-get. Last time I updated was 
20090315, and the latest, where I had the problem 20090404.

The difference between apt, and yum, is where they put the downloaded 
packages. Apt puts them in /var/cache/apt/archives. Packages from all the 
repos are placed here. Yum splits the repos up, and puts the packages for the 
different repos in separate directories. So for example the yum updates are 
in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.

I've tried the GUI way of moving the packages from apt to yum, but means 
renaming yum directories temporarily, so as to be able to copy and paste 
from /var/cache/apt/archives to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages (packages 
temporarily renamed to archives)

There has to be an easier way than that on the CLI. 

How do I copy the files in /var/cache/apt/archives 
to /var/cache/yum/updates/packages?

Nigel.

Sorry, this has been a pain in the backside for the last 2 days.

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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 03 April 2009 16:50, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
 the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
 day.

 http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=
FM

 I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
 that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?

 Thanks

 LG

Hi Linuxguy.

I normally use MhWaveedit for recording, but you will have to compile it from 
a source tarball on Fedora. Link below.

https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit

You will need to install a few development packages to compile it, as below.

libsamplerate-dev
libsndfile-dev
libasound-dev
jack-audio-connection-kit-dev

And if you want to save the recording as an MP3, you will have to install the 
lame package, which is from the rpmfusion repo.

Hope I havn't forgotten any of the development packages you need to install.

It's a nice app, and I keep plugging it, although I have no connection with 
the author.

Nigel.

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 02 April 2009 06:15, g wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  Does anyone know how to enter the interactive startup/bootup on F10?

 exactly how/where, no.

 you can start by having a look at '/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit' script, which
 is where prompt is issued, in f9 and comparing to f10.

 also, be aware that interactive does not start immediately, as can
 be seen in reading script.

This appears to be the relevant bit on F9's rc.sysinit script.

# Now that we have all of our basic modules loaded and the kernel going,
# let's dump the syslog ring somewhere so we can find it later
[ -f /var/log/dmesg ]  mv -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/dmesg.old
dmesg -s 131072  /var/log/dmesg

# create the crash indicator flag to warn on crashes, offer fsck with timeout
touch /.autofsck  /dev/null

if [ $PROMPT != no ]; then
while :; do
 pid=$(/sbin/pidof getkey)
 [ -n $pid -o -e /var/run/getkey_done ]  break
 usleep 10
done
[ -n $pid ]  kill -TERM $pid /dev/null 21
fi
} 
if strstr $cmdline confirm ; then
 touch /var/run/confirm
fi
if [ $PROMPT != no ]; then
 /sbin/getkey i  touch /var/run/confirm
 touch /var/run/getkey_done
fi
wait
[ $PROMPT != no ]  rm -f /var/run/getkey_done

# Let rhgb know that we're leaving rc.sysinit
if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ]  /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then
/usr/bin/rhgb-client --sysinit
fi

And back up at about line 256 is where the graphical prompt for the 
Interactive startup is.

On both F8, and F10, the script appears to be identical.

If I boot F8, I can press the i key once, and it goes into interactive mode.

With F9, one press doesn't work, and sometimes multiple presses of the i key 
don't work. A bit hit and miss on F9, but it eventually works.

With F10, I can't get it to work at all.

All 3 distros are on the same machine, and according to rc.sysinit are using 
fastboot. Keyboard is ps2, and keystrokes are shown on the screen after the 
prompt to enter interactive mode, so not a keyboard problem.

On F9, the first instance of prompt is at line 256, which is at the end of a 
few lines about printing a text banner.

On F10, it is on lines 277-280, as below.

if [ $PROMPT != no ]; then
 echo -en $\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup.
 echo
fi

I don't see where the time limit you have to press the i key is though. A line 
above on F8, F9, and F10's rc.sysinit mentions usleep 10, but that is 
only 1 tenth of a second according to a bit of googling usleep, so perhaps 
that is for something else.

It seems that between F8, and F10, entering interactive startup has become 
more and more difficult, to the extent, that on least this machine using an 
Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I cannot enter interactive mode at all With F10.

Anyone have any idea as to what may be the problem? F8, F9, and F10, all have 
the line usleep 10, so that perhaps is not the problem. The problem is 
that on F10, when pressing the i key, it's showing up on the bootup text 
screen, but it's being ignored by the rc.sysinit script, and no action is 
being taken.

This isn't just an academic question, as when I installed F9 on the mobo 
above, there were bootup problems post install, and I needed to access 
interactive startup to disable some services. Having done that, the bootup 
proceeded ok.

I don't mind hacking the rc.sysinit script on F10 to perhaps resolve the 
problem, if anyone has any suggestions. If not, perhaps a link to who I 
should ask to resolve the problem.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nigel.








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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 02 April 2009 22:38, Alan Evans wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  I find that holding the keys down can be counter-productive. I suspect
  that the code discards the buffer contents before looking for a key
  press and that's why 'rapid taps' as Anne puts it seems to be the only
  method that works.

 I would have thought that the key-repeat wouldn't differ functionally
 from rapidly tapping the key.

 Anyway, it turns out that I can, in fact, interrupt the boot, both by
 rapid tapping and by holding down the key. I tried both several times
 and I think there is little difference -- either successfully
 interrupt the boot sequence what seems like less than half the time.

 Perhaps interesting: holding the key down seems to make the boot
 process loop back to the Press 'I' for interactive startup again.
 I'm not kidding, and I've done it several times. I press I as soon
 as I see the instruction to do so and hold the key down while booting
 proceeds through Starting udev and eventually to Enabling swaps
 and Entering interactive startup. Then the next line says Welcome
 to Omega[1] followed by Press 'i' for interactive startup. Then
 Starting udev again on the next line and so on.

 [1] - I don't think Omega is any different than Fedora proper WRT system
 bootup.

Hi Alan.

Are you trying this on F10, because I can't get into interactive startup on 
it.

On F8, only one press of the i key is necessary.

On F9 one press does not work, and multiple presses are needed. On F9 it's all 
a bit hit and miss. Rapid presses of the i key may work, sometimes a bit of 
delay inbetween keypresses work. As I say, on F9 it's a bit hit and miss.

On F10, I can't get into interactive startup at all.

As I said on an earlier post, getting into interactive startup is becoming 
more and more difficult. F8, and earlier are ok. F9, you have do multiple 
tries, but eventually get there. F10, from my personal experience, is 
impossible. It's really weird as all the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit scripts on F8, 
F9, and F10, appear to be identical.

There has to be some easy fix here so that we can enter interactive startup in 
F10. Perhaps it's time to ask on the Fedora devel list.

Nigel.

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Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On F9 I had to press the I a few times to enter interactive startup, on 
earlier Fedora versions only one press is necessary, but on F10, I can't get 
into interactive startup at all.

I have seen this problem for F10 discussed before, but no resolutions.

Does anyone know how to enter the interactive startup/bootup on F10?

Nigel.

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 20:56, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:01:40 +0200

 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On F9 I had to press the I a few times to enter interactive startup, on
  earlier Fedora versions only one press is necessary, but on F10, I can't
  get into interactive startup at all.

 That's odd. I've never been able to see any effect from pressing I on
 any version of fedora or redhat. I always assumed it was leftover
 text not hooked to anything :-).

Hi Tom.

Pressing the I for Interactive startup has always worked for me since FC1. 
Mind you you may have to press the I more than once. With F9 I had to press 
it multiple times, before I was able to enter Interactive startup mode, but 
with F10 it won't work at all.

I had problems with F9 and my Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, and needed to stop some 
stuff from being started, otherwise F9 would not bootup. the interactive 
startup mode made this possible. As I said, I did have to press the I 
multiple times to get into interactive mode, but eventually got there.

What I'd like to find out is if there is some script being called during the 
bootup process, that asks if you want to enter Interactive startup/bootup.

Bootup does it's initial stuff, then says press I to enter interactive 
startup, so something must be initiated to say press I to enter interactive 
startup. Is that some script somewhere or other, and if so, where is it?

I'm not asking you Tom, but just trying to find out why the interactive mode 
on F10 is not working.

Nigel.




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Re: F10 won't bootup. Stalls at startx, and gdm

2009-03-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 28 March 2009 23:15, max bianco wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Nigel Henry

 cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
  F10 was booting up fine yesterday, and I had been trying to get Hydrogen
  working so that it didn't crash the desktop when I tried to start it. Got
  that problem resolved, and had rebooted a few times during getting the
  Hydrogen problem resolved.
 
  Today I try to bootup F10 and it stalls when trying to startx, and gdm.
  The monitor is just clicking off, and on. No text, no nothing.
 
  Next I bootup, appending the kernel line in grub to boot into runlevel 3,
  which gets me into runlevel 3. I login with username, and password, then
  su to root. Then I type gdm, and gdm opens, and I can login to KDE with
  no problems.
 
  There are some 300MB of updates waiting for my F10, but this problem has
  arrived before installing any of them.
 
  With most of the installs on this Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I have to append
  the kernel line in grub with acpi-off, otherwise the bootup hangs when
  starting X. Everything is locked up. With acpi=off F10 has been booting
  ok up to to ysterday. Quite why I'm now seeing this problem with F10 is
  to say the least, a bit bizarre.
 
  Anyone have any ideas as how to resolve the problem, apart from
  re-installing F10?
 
  Nigel.

 Exactly what kind of voodoo did you have to do to get hydrogen working?

 I looked at the web page and i notice it uses QT3(I am assuming were
 talking the drum machine program Hydrogen BTW), I don't know if this
 is significant but I thought KDE used QT4, maybe some interlibrary
 warfare is going on

Hi Max.
I'm really stuck with the bootup issue at the moment, but if you want to see 
the fix, which turned out to be simple, there's a link to planetccrma 
archives below.
http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2009-March/015581.html

 I also know that some updates to X are available, these might solve
 your problem if you can get them installed.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, and the bootup problem.

I don't want to do the updates at the moment, as from other posts, one of the 
X ones causes other problems, and I don't want to compound my present 
problem.

Searching /var/log has turned up some stuff, involving selinux. The bit of 
output below is interesting.

/var/log/messages.
SELinux messages. run sealert -l 71611722-fe44-46fd-abe5-16bc7d0f92a4
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing gnome-session 
(xdm_t) read to libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (unlabeled_t). For complete SELinux 
messages. run sealert -l 71611722-fe44-46fd-abe5-16bc7d0f92a4
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost gdm-binary[2341]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display 
lasted 2.407845 seconds
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost gdm-binary[2341]: WARNING: GdmLocalDisplayFactory: 
maximum number of X display failures reached: check X server log for errors
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost init: prefdm main process (2341) terminated with 
status 1
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost init: prefdm main process ended, respawning
Mar 29 14:18:58 localhost setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing gnome-session 
(xdm_t) read to libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (unlabeled_t). For complete SELinux 
messages. run sealert -l 71611722-fe44-46fd-abe5-16bc7d0f92a4
Mar 29 14:20:13 localhost kernel: imklog 3.21.10, log source = /proc/kmsg 
started.


The above output says gdm display lasted 2.4+ seconds, and even though I 
didn't see the gdm splashscreen, I saw the mouse pointer with a blue rotating 
halo for about that time, then the monitor went into click on and off mode, 
where it looks like X was trying to start, but eventually gives up.

Bit of output below from /var/log/gdm (loads of files in there)

:0-greeter.log

** (gnome-power-manager:2443): WARNING **: DBUS error: Could not get owner of 
name 'org.gnome.ScreenSaver': no such name
** (gnome-power-manager:2443): DEBUG: proxy is NULL, maybe the daemon 
responsible for org.gnome.ScreenSaver is not running?

** (gnome-power-manager:2443): WARNING **: This machine is not identified as a 
laptop.system.formfactor is desktop.

** (gnome-power-manager:2443): WARNING **: This machine is not identified as a 
laptop.system.formfactor is desktop.
** (gnome-power-manager:2443): DEBUG: This machine is not identified as a 
laptop.system.formfactor is desktop.
** (gnome-power-manager:2443): DEBUG: We are not a laptop, so not even trying
Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session 
file 
/var/lib/gdm/.config/metacity/sessions/10a1ad83fa6a1e0db12383292511429090024150003.ms:
 
Failed to open file 
'/var/lib/gdm/.config/metacity/sessions/10a1ad83fa6a1e0db12383292511429090024150003.ms':
 
No such file or directory
** (process:2454): DEBUG: Greeter session pid=2454 display=:0.0 
xauthority=/var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-UI9Mb7/database
Warning:  Key OUTP not found in evdev+aliases(qwerty) keycodes
  Symbols ignored

skip

Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a 
timestamp of 0

Re: F10 won't bootup. Stalls at startx, and gdm

2009-03-29 Thread Nigel Henry
Problem resolved, hopefully. See below.

On Sunday 29 March 2009 18:09, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Saturday 28 March 2009 23:15, max bianco wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Nigel Henry
 
  cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
   F10 was booting up fine yesterday, and I had been trying to get
   Hydrogen working so that it didn't crash the desktop when I tried to
   start it. Got that problem resolved, and had rebooted a few times
   during getting the Hydrogen problem resolved.
  
   Today I try to bootup F10 and it stalls when trying to startx, and gdm.
   The monitor is just clicking off, and on. No text, no nothing.
 Nigel.

huge skip of all stuff on previous post

Having become a bit impatient, I set Selinux to permissive mode, and rebooted, 
which opened gdm with no problems, and I was able to login to KDE. Then I set 
Selinux back to enforcing mode, and rebooted, which brought back the same 
problem where, either X, and.or gdm wouldn't open. Pressed the reset button, 
and booted up to runlevel 3. Logged in, and su'ed to root, and started gdm, 
then logged into KDE.

Next step, back into SELinux Management, and check the box Relabel on next 
reboot. Now I reboot, and Selinux does it's relabelling stuff, and now with 
Selinux in enforcing mode, F10 boots up without any problems.

Why this bootup problem occured in the first place, I've no idea. It's now 
fixed, and booting up is better than before. Before the recent bootup 
problems, the bootup would get as far as starting X, and gdm, and for 2, or 3 
seconds I would see text from the bootup in the top left of the screen, and 
the rest of the screen was filled with horizontal black, and white lines, 
then gdm would open. Since running the relabelling for SELinux, booting up on 
F10 has no problems, and goes straight to gdm (none of of the odd stuff 
displayed on screen prior to gdm starting).

Just some observations, along with a problem resolved.

Nigel.

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F10 won't bootup. Stalls at startx, and gdm

2009-03-28 Thread Nigel Henry
F10 was booting up fine yesterday, and I had been trying to get Hydrogen 
working so that it didn't crash the desktop when I tried to start it. Got 
that problem resolved, and had rebooted a few times during getting the 
Hydrogen problem resolved.

Today I try to bootup F10 and it stalls when trying to startx, and gdm. The 
monitor is just clicking off, and on. No text, no nothing.

Next I bootup, appending the kernel line in grub to boot into runlevel 3, 
which gets me into runlevel 3. I login with username, and password, then su 
to root. Then I type gdm, and gdm opens, and I can login to KDE with no 
problems.

There are some 300MB of updates waiting for my F10, but this problem has 
arrived before installing any of them.

With most of the installs on this Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I have to append the 
kernel line in grub with acpi-off, otherwise the bootup hangs when starting 
X. Everything is locked up. With acpi=off F10 has been booting ok up to to 
ysterday. Quite why I'm now seeing this problem with F10 is to say the least, 
a bit bizarre.

Anyone have any ideas as how to resolve the problem, apart from re-installing 
F10?

Nigel.

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Hydrogen crashing desktop when opening. F10

2009-03-15 Thread Nigel Henry
As synaptic has been repaired now by an update, I thought that I'd try 
installing something to check it out, so installed Hydrogen, and 
hydrogen-drumkits, which installed ok without any of the previous md5 
missmatch problems.

Anyway, I click on the Hydrogen icon, which opens a page showing info about 
Hydrogen, then close that page. Hydrogen's small splash screen is showing the 
Hydrogen tries to open, but instantly crashes the F10 desktop, and takes me 
to a login screen.


I've just tried it on F10's Gnome desktop, with the same result.

Anyway care to try Hydrogen, and say whether it works ok for them, or they are 
getting the same problem as I am?

Other graphical sound apps are working ok (ZynAddSubFX, MhWaveedit, etc).

Thanks.

Nigel.

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Re: Hydrogen crashing desktop when opening. F10

2009-03-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:43, Andras Simon wrote:
 On 3/15/09, Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
  As synaptic has been repaired now by an update, I thought that I'd try
  installing something to check it out, so installed Hydrogen, and
  hydrogen-drumkits, which installed ok without any of the previous md5
  missmatch problems.
 
  Anyway, I click on the Hydrogen icon, which opens a page showing info
  about Hydrogen, then close that page. Hydrogen's small splash screen is
  showing the
  Hydrogen tries to open, but instantly crashes the F10 desktop, and takes
  me to a login screen.
 
 
  I've just tried it on F10's Gnome desktop, with the same result.
 
  Anyway care to try Hydrogen, and say whether it works ok for them, or
  they are
  getting the same problem as I am?

 FWIW, Hydrogen (v 0.9.3) works fine here. But then I'm not using any
 kind of desktop.

 Andras

Hi Andras.

How are you running it then? On xfce?

I may try removing it, and re-installing using apt-get directly. Perhaps 
synaptic still has a problem, but there wern't any error messages, apart from 
extra output was created during install, but I often get that with 
synaptic, and can be ignored.

I have had Hydrogen crash when the wrong audio output was selected. for 
example, if Hydrogen was set to use jack, and jackd wasn't started, then 
Hydrogen would crash, but I've never had it also crashing the desktop before.

Tried various options for audio output. Jackd running, jackd stopped, and I 
think Hydrogen is still an OSS audio app (may be wrong there), but alsa-oss 
is also installed, so there should be no problem there.

Hydrogen version installed on my F10 is.
hydrogen-0.9.3-13.fc9.i386

Thanks for your reply.

Nigel.


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Re: pulseaudio deeply unreliable (Fedora 10)

2009-03-08 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 08 March 2009 18:38, Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
 Hello Nigel,

 could/would you please stop advertising remove pulseaudio as the
 panacea for all audio-related problems? Please? It is not as simple as
 that.
 I've been with Fedora since FC4 in June, 2005. I've had my share of
 snap, crackle and pop type audio problems and, if I'm not mistaken,
 you and I have exchanged a couple of posts around the subject.

 I have now an F9 system with one MOBO sound card that utilises the
 snd_intel8x0 module, an additional Ensoniq ES 1371 (CT-4810) sound card,
 and C-media USB Headphones. I want and need to be able to use all of
 them.

 In my present system, every audio application works flawlessly from
 hearing what and how you want point of view - and I'm using PulseAudio
 all the time. Many moons ago I was also dissatisfied with the
 emergency of PA (and there *were* bugs when it first appeared on
 Fedora). Now I'm very pleased with it, and I'll tell you why.

 I've temporarily installed another sound card, an SB Live!, into my box.
 Pulseaudio lets me direct the audio stream to any of the three, ie. USB
 headphones, the Ensonic card, or the SB card. (It seems like the mobo
 sound card is always disabled when an external sound card is installed.)
 Anyway, the fact that I can arbitrarily choose which sound card will be
 used to output the sound is something I could not achieve with ALSA.

 To me, PulseAudio was a definite improvement over ALSA - for my purposes
 anyway. Therefore, I'd like to recommend that you wouldn't be too eager
 to suggest removing PulseAudio to anyone with sound problems. For some
 of us, PulseAudio - if and when it works impeccably - is indeed an
 improvement.

 I understand that you are a friendly sort of chap who wants to help
 others. However, helping people to get their PulseAudio work might be a
 better way of solving their audio problems than single-mindedly
 suggesting them they should remove PA.

 Best regards,

 Antti

I do not advocate the removal of pulseaudio to resolve all audio problems.

When I see audio related probelms, which may,or may not be related to 
pulseaudio, I suggest disabling pulseaudio to see if that resolves the audio 
problem, and that's as far as it goes. if disabling pulseaudio resolves a 
sound related problem, then all well and good.

If the user now has his/her sounds working, that is all that I'm trying to 
help with. Personally I have no interest in pulseaudio, as on all my 3 
machines the sound works without pulseaudio entering the equation.

I will continue to try and help folks with sound related problems. I do not 
believe that pulseaudio is necessary for sounds to work, and sounds worked 
with Alsa long before pulseaudio existed (FC1).

No doubt this will start some flame or other, but is the way I answer sound 
related problems, whether on Fedora, Debian, or Kubuntu/Ubuntu lists. So so 
be it.

Nigel.

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Re: pulseaudio deeply unreliable (Fedora 10)

2009-03-07 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 06 March 2009 23:17, Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:
 Neil Bird wrote:
OK, I've had a google, and a bit of tinkering with config. files,
  and I'm not really getting anywhere.  PA was working OK for me in
  Fedora 8, but ever since I upgraded F8 to F10, it's been a right PITA.
 
It'll either continually stutter (e.g., when playing music often 1-2
  times each track) or hiccough and crash under CPU load (firefox
  loading can kill it, for example).
 
Indeed, with my wife playing 'listen', CPU usage is PA itself is
  some ~20% or more.  I have tried the 'tsched=0' hack, but that doesn't
  seem to change anything (yes, I restarted PA).
 
 
I've seen PA quit itself due to excessive CPU usage (I've taken to
  running it in an xterm to see when it's gone/what errors it's
  reporting).  I tried the max cpu flag I found in the PA daemon conf.
  file, but all *that* did was just report 'Killed' when it died.
 
It just seems deeply unreliable.  I can fairly reliably stuff it by
  running realplay (listening to streamed radio) under padsp, and then
  launching mplayer.
 
The only odd thing I see is some message about the ALSA and/or the
  kernel reporting a range of 22.0 to 22.0 db or something, indicating
  a bug in the kernel driver.
 
 
So, what to try?  Most googles of my symptoms lead to people who've
  had enough and removed it.  I did even see one report trying to blame
  nVidia's drivers (which, regardless of veracity, is no excuse given
  that it was OK before).
 
I'd *rather* get to the bottom of the problem(s), even if it's
  raising bug reports and patching for now, but I'm really just fed up
  with the thing now.  If I can't get it going within a week, next
  weekend it's off the machine for good.

 I'm getting the stuttering, static, and crashes too, and periodically
 something will happen with pulseaudio that results in thousands (at
 least) of identical error messages appearing in /var/log/messages. I
 looked up the error (I can't remember what it is off-hand) and the
 pulseaudio guys are saying that it's a bug in alsa, and the alsa guys
 seem to be working on a bug directly related to that error, but the
 symptoms of the bug they're fixing don't match what I'm seeing with
 pulse...

 Frankly, I don't care where the hell the problem is, I just want my
 audio working clearly and properly. I'll post the error message when I
 get a chance, but even if alsa is the problem it doesn't explain why
 I've seen pulseaudio die between the time I start it in a terminal
 window and the time Banshee finishes loading so I can actually play some
 audio.

 Raymond

Hi Raymond.

Alsa had worked ok before pulseaudio entered the equation. Yes there are still 
problems with certain soundcards, hda intel ones specifically, but for the 
most part Alsa is working ok, and pulseaudio is not needed.

To disable it, simply do a, yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, which will 
also remove kde-settings-pulseaudio package, if you are using KDE.

Now see if the sounds are working better for you. You can always re-enable 
pulseaudio, by simply re-installing the 2 packages above, if you really want 
pulseaudio.

Nigel.



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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 05 March 2009 21:54, Jake Peavy wrote:
 On 3/5/09, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Jake Peavy wrote:
   On 3/3/09, Steve Searle st...@stevesearle.com wrote:
 
  http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
 
   Dammit!  Missed it.
  
   Does anyone have a copy they can email me?  The site says we can share
 
  with
 
   friends ;-)
 
   email 
 
  are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes?

 That had not occurred to us, Dude.

 Is it still being seeded?  Does anyone have a tracker?

Being a first time user of bittorrent, I'm not sure if this is what you want. 
Anyway, in Transmissions tracker tab, I have the URL below, which is prefixed 
by Tier 1.

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk:6969/announce

Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't 
completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the 
download.

I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB.

Nigel



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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
  http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only

I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004. No 
money for the sub.

Seeing the link above, I thought, that's worth going for. Clicked on the hi 
res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used before.

I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local town, 
so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I know has 
Ktorrent on it. Click on Help in K torrent, but no help files. Doh! . I'm 
sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all the time, but is 
annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is no info on how to use 
it.

Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu Transmission. 
That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on how to use it. I'm on 
dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into transmissions main window, and get 
the torrent downloading the file. I don't think there is a hope in hell of it 
running to completion before Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, 
as it would have been nice to read a Linux Format mag again.

How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download? Say 
for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent link. Am 
I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages, or am I 
going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from each of them?

I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and the 
next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.

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Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours

2009-03-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 22:06, phil wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Wednesday 04 March 2009 15:05, Paul W. Frields wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:42:29PM +, Steve Searle wrote:
  http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-onl
 y
 
  I havn't seen a Linux Format mag since I moved to France in Sept 2004. No
  money for the sub.
 
  Seeing the link above, I thought, that's worth going for. Clicked on
  the hi res download, only to find it was torrent, which I've never used
  before.
 
  I had to go and collect bread, and other stuff on my bike at the local
  town, so sometime later, and back at the ranch, I fire up F10, which I
  know has Ktorrent on it. Click on Help in K torrent, but no help files.
  Doh! . I'm sort of used to this with KDE, although I use it all the time,
  but is annoying when you want to try a new app, but there is no info on
  how to use it.
 
  Anyway, that aside, I see another app in KDE's Internet menu
  Transmission. That may be a Gnome app, but at least it's got info on
  how to use it. I'm on dialup, but I drag the .torrent file into
  transmissions main window, and get the torrent downloading the file. I
  don't think there is a hope in hell of it running to completion before
  Linux Format remove the link, which is a shame, as it would have been
  nice to read a Linux Format mag again.
 
  How do these torrent downloads work, for instance with this PDF download?
  Say for example If I get 90% of it downloaded, before I lose the torrent
  link. Am I likely to be able to open the PDF, and view some of the pages,
  or am I going to have all the pages, but bits and pieces missing from
  each of them?
 
  I suppose whichever way this goes, I've learned a bit about torrent, and
  the next time I need to use it I'll be a bit more clued up.
 
  Nigel.

 no matter if lxf remove their seeding server myself (and i'm sure many
 others) will keep seeding it for a while which should allow you to
 finish your download :)

 phil

Thanks for that info Phil. So I may get it completed after all, which would be 
nice.

I know I'm on dialup, but it's odd that the Transmission app is not showing 
anything being uploaded, but the downloading is using all available dialup 
bandwidth.

Gkrellm shows some stuff being transmitted, but all below 1K.

I'll have to look further into this. It appears that I'm downloading using 
torrent, but not giving anything back (seeding).

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Re: practically no volume in f9

2009-03-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 05 March 2009 00:00, Dave Feustel wrote:
 I'm experiencing almost no volume with youtube videos on f9.
 Pulseaudio says the volume is at max. Is pulseaudio causing
 this problem?

 Thanks.

Hi Dave. I'm not too impressed with pulseaudio, but that aside, first try the 
following command on KDE's Konsole, or Gnomes Terminal.

alsamixer -D hw:0

This will get you all of the alsamixer controls. There may may some control 
that may be muted. Look for, Master, PCM, Front. The M key controls the 
mute/unmute. Perhaps one of them just needs to be pushed up a bit.

If that doesn't fix anything you can disable pulseaudio by removing the 
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package. You can always re-install it later, if it 
doesn't resolve the problem.

I have seen pulseaudio being responsible for low volume levels, and when 
removed the volume comes back to normal.

Worth a try.

Nigel.


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Howto revert back to earlier version of rpm, as apt is broken with latest

2009-03-01 Thread Nigel Henry
Updates to rpm, rpm-libs, and rpm-python on F10 have broken apt.

How can I revert back to the earlier version of rpm? I have the earlier rpm 
packages available in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.

The current installed version of rpm (apt broken) is rpm-4.6.0-1.fc10.i386

The earlier version of rpm where apt was working ok is, 
rpm-4.6.0-0.rc3.1.fc10.i386.rpm

I tried installing the earlier version using rpm -Uvh --oldpackage 
package-name, and that was referring to the rpm package, but there were 
problems as rpm-libs, and rpm-python were at the latest version (dependency 
issues).

Somehow, it seems that I need to revert all 3 rpm packages to the earlier 
version at the same time, but I don't know how to do that.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Nigel.

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Re: Howto revert back to earlier version of rpm, as apt is broken with latest

2009-03-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 02 March 2009 01:26, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  Updates to rpm, rpm-libs, and rpm-python on F10 have broken apt.
 
  How can I revert back to the earlier version of rpm? I have the earlier
  rpm packages available in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.
 
  The current installed version of rpm (apt broken) is
  rpm-4.6.0-1.fc10.i386
 
  The earlier version of rpm where apt was working ok is,
  rpm-4.6.0-0.rc3.1.fc10.i386.rpm
 
  I tried installing the earlier version using rpm -Uvh --oldpackage
  package-name, and that was referring to the rpm package, but there were
  problems as rpm-libs, and rpm-python were at the latest version
  (dependency issues).
 
  Somehow, it seems that I need to revert all 3 rpm packages to the earlier
  version at the same time, but I don't know how to do that.
 
  Any suggestions would be welcome.
 
  Nigel.

 Put all the package names in the same command. What I tend to do is
 create a temporary directory, copy the RPMs to it, and run something
 like rpm -Uvh --oldpackage *.rpm.

 Mikkel

Hi Mikkel.

Many thanks for your suggestion, which has resolved the problem.

Now to stop rpm being updated again to the latest version, where apt becomes 
broken. It's easy with Debians apt, because I can put a hold on the package, 
which stops it being updated. I have to use pinning on Fedora's apt-rpm, to 
stop packages being updated, as the hold option is not available.

Anyway, I'll work through that problem.

Thanks again for your help, which has resolved a problem.

Nigel.

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F10. Synaptic unable to install dl'd packages. Anyone confirm this?

2009-02-25 Thread Nigel Henry
Synaptic still hasn't been fixed on F9. It will download the packages ok, but 
complains of MD5 sum missmatches, and is unable to install the packages, 
although subsequently doing an apt-get install for the packages, will install 
the already downloaded packages.

The same problem appears to exist on F10's synaptic, although now there is no 
warning message about MD5 sum missmatches.

Before I file a bug report, could anyone who uses apt, and synaptic confirm 
that on F10, synaptic is unable to install packages that it has downloaded.

Probably not many apt users on the list, but worth a try.

Nigel.

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Re: F10. Synaptic unable to install dl'd packages. Anyone confirm this?

2009-02-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 23:26, Kam Leo wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Nigel Henry

 cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
  Synaptic still hasn't been fixed on F9. It will download the packages ok,
  but complains of MD5 sum missmatches, and is unable to install the
  packages, although subsequently doing an apt-get install for the
  packages, will install the already downloaded packages.
 
  The same problem appears to exist on F10's synaptic, although now there
  is no warning message about MD5 sum missmatches.
 
  Before I file a bug report, could anyone who uses apt, and synaptic
  confirm that on F10, synaptic is unable to install packages that it has
  downloaded.
 
  Probably not many apt users on the list, but worth a try.
 
  Nigel.

 What do you mean still has not been fixed? Did you submit a bug
 report and the bug was/is not fixed or did you mean you have a problem
 with the operation of Synaptic on your system?

 FYI, I just ran Synaptic on my F9 system. Downloaded and installed 24
 updates. No problem encountered.

Well Synaptic is unable to install downloaded packages, both on F9, and F10 on 
my machine. I have posted a bug report for the synaptic problem on F9, but as 
I've just said, I havn't posted a bug report for synaptic on F10, as I wanted 
to get some confirmation of the problem first.

And for your information, I've been using apt, and synaptic since Fedora Core 
1, with no problems. Apt has had no problems on F9, apart from a little 
glitch (updates I think), but synaptic since F9 has been able to download 
packages, but not able to install them (MD5 missmatch problems). Synaptic can 
remove packages with no problem. there just appears to be a problem with 
installing them, at least for me, and some others that also filed a bug 
report against synaptic on F9.

I'll find the bug report, and post the link.

If synaptic is working ok for you on F9, this is a really weird problem that I 
have on both my F9, and F10 installs.

Nigel.

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Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before bootup continues

2009-02-22 Thread Nigel Henry
Experimenting a bit, I set up a one liner in rc.local, which uses aplay to 
play a tune which I put in /usr/local. See below.

aplay /usr/local/Summer-in-the-city.wav

I had to disable pulseaudio, by removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, otherwise 
the tune wouldn't play, but perhaps further aplay options are needed to get 
the tune to play with pulseaudio enabled.

The question is though. When the tune is playing the bootup sequence stops, 
until the tune has finished playing, then procedes.

Is there a way for the tune, which is fired off from rc.local, to play without 
interrupting the boot process?

Thanks in advance for any incantations that may resolve the problem.

Nigel.

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Re: Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before bootup continues

2009-02-22 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 22 February 2009 16:22, Craig White wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 16:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
  Experimenting a bit, I set up a one liner in rc.local, which uses aplay
  to play a tune which I put in /usr/local. See below.
 
  aplay /usr/local/Summer-in-the-city.wav
 
  I had to disable pulseaudio, by removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio,
  otherwise the tune wouldn't play, but perhaps further aplay options are
  needed to get the tune to play with pulseaudio enabled.
 
  The question is though. When the tune is playing the bootup sequence
  stops, until the tune has finished playing, then procedes.
 
  Is there a way for the tune, which is fired off from rc.local, to play
  without interrupting the boot process?
 
  Thanks in advance for any incantations that may resolve the problem.

 
 add an  to the end of the line so it forks its own process and allows
 rc.local to complete...

 aplay /usr/local/Summer-in-the-city.wav 

 and I would think that the problem you had with pulseaudio playing this
 music is that rc.local is executed as root but root wouldn't have
 pulseaudio running unless root had already logged in.

 Craig

Hi Craig. Thanks to you and Andras for the suggestion to add the  to the end 
of the line, which has done the job. Now the tune plays, and the bootup 
continues to GDM loginscreen, and post login, when logged into KDE, or Gnome. 
When the tune finishes, there are no problems with running sound apps in user 
space. Bear in mind, that is with pulseaudio disabled, by my having removed 
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, which also removes kde-settings-pulseaudio.

Going back to the problem, where aplay would not play the tune on bootup, when 
pulseaudio was enabled, I played around with aplay options in /etc/rc.local 
to see if the tune would play with pulseaudio enabled. Originally, it had 
been as below with pulseaudio enabled, and the tune would not play.

aplay /usr/local/Summer-in-the-city.wav

Now I change the line above in /etc/rc.local, to the one below, and now the 
tune plays with pulseaudio enabled.

aplay -D hw:0 /usr/local/Summer-in-the-city.wav

The problem now, is that the tune is playing when I login to either Gnome, or 
KDE, and continues to completion when logged in, but after the tune finishes, 
I have no sounds in either Gnome or KDE, depending on which desktop I'd 
logged into.

If for example I'd logged into KDE, I have no sounds. If I logout, and back in 
to Gnome, the sounds come back. If I then logout of Gnome, and back in to 
KDE, I also have sounds again. This has to be some pulseaudio related 
problem, as when pulseaudio is disabled, playing the tune above, which is 
started from /etc/rc.local, and continues post login until completion, there 
are no problems with playing sound apps on either KDE, or Gnome.

Perhaps I'll ask on the alsa developers list, as Lennart (author of 
pulseaudio) hangs out there. Maybe he will have an answer.

Thanks guys for your replies though. At least one problem is resolved.

Nigel.

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Re: mplayer

2009-02-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 15 February 2009 17:36, Dave Feustel wrote:
 Is mplayer available for F9?

 If not, what mpg player is used instead?

 Do any players work without KDE?

 Thanks.

Hi Dave.

I havn't got F9 booted up at the mo, but I got mplayer from either livna, or 
freshrpms, both now replaced by rpmfusion, where you should be able to get 
Mplayer.

If you need to play encrypted dvd's, you will have to get libdvdcss 
(libdvdcss2) from either livna, or freshrpms (some legal issues stop 
rpmfusion from making the library available). I also saw some problems with 
including w32codecs package when reading posts from the rpmfusion list, so 
you may need to get those directly from the mplayer site, otherwise some 
stuff won't work.

Vlc, Mplayer, or Totem should work ok without KDE. Totem will probably need 
extra gstreamer plugins to be installed ( gstreamer-plugins-good, 
gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc). have a look in Yumex to 
see what is available. I havn't had much success with Totem, but have got it 
playing dvd's on Ubuntu Intrepid, which is Gnome based.

2¢ worth of Sunday evening rambling.

Nigel.

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Re: mplayer

2009-02-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 15 February 2009 19:49, Dave Feustel wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 06:35:04PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Sunday 15 February 2009 17:36, Dave Feustel wrote:
   Is mplayer available for F9?
  
   If not, what mpg player is used instead?
  
   Do any players work without KDE?
  
   Thanks.
 
  Hi Dave.
 
  I havn't got F9 booted up at the mo, but I got mplayer from either livna,
  or freshrpms, both now replaced by rpmfusion, where you should be able to
  get Mplayer.

 I got mplayer from rpmfusion. Now I am trying to play an mpg file called
 pingpongdog.mpg, but I get error messages saying I need to install
 missing audio-visual codecs. When I select 'search for codecs', they are
 not found. Is there a site from which the missing codecs can be downloaded?

Try the link below. 

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

Scroll down to the Binary Codec Packages section, and download, and install 
the one for you. Instructions on how to do it are on the page.

Nigel.

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Re: kde 4.2 pulse audio eradicate

2009-02-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 14 February 2009 19:31, Minson, John M Mr CTR wrote:
 OK  heres a horse thats been beat a lot

 how do I completely eradicate pulse audio ?

 with out going into lots of ugly details sound only works on amarok and
 notifications .
 kmplayer using xine or mplayer no sound
 youtube no sound

 'mukltimedia settings' set to the correct device (SB Live)

Hi John.

To disable pulseaudio, simply run the command below as root.

yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

If you are using KDE this will also remove kde-settings-pulseaudio

Don't try removing all the pulseaudio rpm's, as one at least wants to remove a 
bunch of deps, and can screw up the sounds completely.

Removing the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package will mean that your audio apps 
should be accessing alsa directly, as they were on Fedora versions (pre F8), 
before pulseaudio entered the equation.

Nigel.

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Re: kde 4.2 pulse audio eradicate

2009-02-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 14 February 2009 20:51, Minson, John M Mr CTR wrote:
  I have done all of this before . I dont understand what
 xine/mplayer/firefox are referencing audio wise that prevent them from
 working at all when amarok works perfectly

Ok. Pulseaudio is no longer in the equation, and you have sounds from Amarok, 
but not from other audio apps.

I don't know which soundcard you have, but the output from the following 
commands may be helpfull.
cat /proc/asound/cards
cat /proc/asound/version
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

Open alsamixer in Gnomes terminal as user, and check for muted controls, and 
sliders that are at zero. The usual controls are Master, PCM, Front, and CD. 
(the M key does the mute/unmute).

You say that Xine, Mplayer, and Firefox have problems with sounds. Let's look 
at one at a time. What are you trying to play using Xine?

Just a tip, but would you post to the list in plain text if possible, rather 
than HTML, and post your replies at the bottom of the previous post, which 
makes it easier to follow the conversation.

Nigel.

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Re: dbus is flooded with sr0: CDROM not ready messages.

2009-02-12 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:54, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 Dmesg returns thousands of sr0: CDROM not ready messages.

 I have not done anything with the CDROM drive since I rebooted last.

 $ uname -a
 Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed Jan
 21 02:09:37 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 The only abnormal thing I can see is that KsCD seems to somehow end up
 in the system tray every time I reboot.  Even though I quit it every
 time.

 How do fix this situation ?

 Thanks

It could be worth a look in /home/user/.kde/autostart directory. If Kscd is 
there, rename it or remove it.

I've also had problems with the default setting in Kscd's config, where the 
checkbox for add icon to taskbar (or something like that) is ticked. I'd 
suggest unchecking that box.

When that box is checked, and the icon for Kscd is in the tasbar/panel, I've 
found that you can't play other media (a dvd for example), as the dvd app 
complains that it can't access the optical drive. it appears that Kscd's icon 
when in the panel, means that Kscd is active, ready to play, and that it has  
grabbed /dev/sr0, thus preventing other apps (Kaffeine for example) 
using /dev/sr0.

Which Fedora version is this?

Just some thoughts.

Nigel.




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Re: Audio problem

2009-02-11 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 22:08, JD wrote:
 Dear list,
 I am running FC7, kernel 2.6.23.17-88.
 It has been fine for more than 2 years.
 Yesterday, the audio stopped working.
 I thought it was the HW.
 I booted into WinXP and tested the audio,
 Audio was fine.

 How do I debug this problem to find out the cause?

Well Fedora core 7 is old, but I'm posting from Fedora core 2, so as far as 
I'm concerned, if it is still working, and your happy with it, keep using it.

Back to your sounds. Can you post the output from the following commands, 
which will show if the soundcard is being detected, and if the necessary 
modules are being loaded,

cat /proc/asound/cards
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

It's worth also opening alsamixer in Gnomes terminal, or KDE's Konsole, if 
you're using KDE like me, and see if all the necessary sliders are still up 
(Master, Front, PCM, CD), and that none of these controls are muted (The M 
key toggles the mute/unmute).

Have you plugged a new audio related device into the USB (webcam, usb midi 
keyboard, etc). The usb starts early in the boot process, and alsa can detect 
these devices as soundcards, and set them as card0, thus stopping your actual 
soundcard using the card0 slot, resulting in no sounds.

Just a few thoughts for a start.

Nigel.

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Re: Audio problem

2009-02-11 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 23:44, JD wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Wednesday 11 February 2009 22:08, JD wrote:
  Dear list,
  I am running FC7, kernel 2.6.23.17-88.
  It has been fine for more than 2 years.
  Yesterday, the audio stopped working.
  I thought it was the HW.
  I booted into WinXP and tested the audio,
  Audio was fine.
 
  How do I debug this problem to find out the cause?
 
  Well Fedora core 7 is old, but I'm posting from Fedora core 2, so as far
  as I'm concerned, if it is still working, and your happy with it, keep
  using it.
 
  Back to your sounds. Can you post the output from the following commands,
  which will show if the soundcard is being detected, and if the necessary
  modules are being loaded,
 
  cat /proc/asound/cards
  /sbin/lsmod | grep snd
 
  It's worth also opening alsamixer in Gnomes terminal, or KDE's Konsole,
  if you're using KDE like me, and see if all the necessary sliders are
  still up (Master, Front, PCM, CD), and that none of these controls are
  muted (The M key toggles the mute/unmute).
 
  Have you plugged a new audio related device into the USB (webcam, usb
  midi keyboard, etc). The usb starts early in the boot process, and alsa
  can detect these devices as soundcards, and set them as card0, thus
  stopping your actual soundcard using the card0 slot, resulting in no
  sounds.
 
  Just a few thoughts for a start.
 
  Nigel.

 OK, here is the output, but it looks same as I have
 always seen it:
 # cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012
   SiS SI7012 with ALC655 at irq 18
  1 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - SiS SI7013 Modem
   SiS SI7013 Modem at irq 18
 # /sbin/lsmod | grep snd
 snd_intel8x0m  23377  0
 snd_seq_dummy  11461  0
 snd_intel8x0   39657  4
 snd_ac97_codec116633  2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
 ac97_bus   10817  1 snd_ac97_codec
 snd_seq_oss37185  0
 snd_seq_midi_event 14913  1 snd_seq_oss
 snd_seq56673  5
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 15061 
 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
 snd_pcm_oss47553  0
 snd_mixer_oss  22721  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_pcm80585  5
 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
 snd_timer  27721  3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd59753  16
 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_devic
e,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore  14945 
 1 snd
 snd_page_alloc 16337  3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm


 The only NEW item I have plugged in over 2 weeks ago has been
 a BLUETOOTH stick for my bluetooth mouse. But that did not disable
 the sound. The sound went away about 2 days ago. So, That leaves
 me puzzling over why I lost the audio.

Well nothing looks out of order from the above output.

Are you using Gnome, or KDE?

I know on KDE if there are problems with the sounds you get a warning message 
when you login. Not sure about Gnome. Do you see any such messages?

If you are seeing no messages about problems with the sounds, it's possibly a 
problem with alsamixer's controls, some control that has become muted 
perhaps.

I know that on one of my installs, that uses KDE, the volume control in the 
panel has sometimes selected the wrong soundcard. I see you have 2 
soundcards, one for the actual soundcard, and one for the modem. If you right 
click on the volume control in the panel, you can select which card you want 
the volume control to be used for. Why this should have changed though, 
causing you to lose the sounds is beyond me. It's worth a look though.

As I say I'm not too clued up about Gnomes volume control, but you may find 
something similar there, if you are using Gnome.

Apologies If my efforts are not resolving your problem.

Nigel.


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Re: Vlc seg faults?

2009-02-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 20:14, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Fedora 9 w/ latest updates

 Perhaps some do not use VLC, but in any case it seg faults?

 Feb  4 11:10:35 gold kernel: vlc[27715]: segfault at aeff7fd0 ip
 0058ad6c sp aeff7fd4 error 6 in libc-2.8.so[51b000+163000]
 Feb  4 11:11:10 gold kernel: vlc[27787]: segfault at aeffafe0 ip
 0058ad6c sp aeffafe4 error 6 in libc-2.8.so[51b000+163000]
 Feb  4 11:11:29 gold ntpd[2729]: kernel time sync status change 0001
 Feb  4 11:12:06 gold kernel: vlc[27887]: segfault at aeff7fe0 ip
 0058ad6c sp aeff7fe4 error 6 in libc-2.8.so[51b000+163000]
 Feb  4 11:12:10 gold kernel: vlc[27906]: segfault at aeef9ff0 ip
 0058ad6c sp aeef9ff4 error 6 in libc-2.8.so[51b000+163000]
 Feb  4 11:12:14 gold kernel: vlc[27926]: segfault at af0f7fd0 ip
 0058ad6c sp af0f7fd4 error 6 in libc-2.8.so[51b000+163000]

 Anyone have this problem?

Hi Daniel.

I'm only referencing playing DVD's here, but vlc plays them ok on F9, as does 
Mplayer, and I've just got Kaffeine playing them as well, using the gstreamer 
engine.

I'm using an Asus M2N-X Plus mobo with an ati pci-express graphics card. 
Fedora 9 has chosen to use the radeon driver for this card, but other distros 
on this same machine have chosen different graphics drivers. For example, the 
Archlinux install, which has the same vlc version as Fedora 9 is using the 
ati driver, and vlc works ok on that.

I also have Ubuntu, and Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10 installs on the same machine. 
they are using the qt version of vlc (0.9.4 Grishenko), and both these 
distros have installed using the vesa graphics driver. Vlc will not play 
dvd's. I get the menu, and about a half second of sound and video, then the 
playback stops. I won't ramble on, but think this may have something to do 
with the vesa graphics driver on the Ubuntu/Kubuntu Intrepid installs, and 
the vlc qt version.

I removed vlc from the Kubuntu Intrepid install, and installed the older 
version of vlc from the Kubuntu hardy repo, which has vlc 0.8.6a janus 
(wxWidgets Interface). That version of vlc works fine on Kubuntu Intrepid, 
with the vesa graphics driver.

On my Kubuntu/Ubuntu Intrepid installs, Totem, Ogle, Kaffeine, and Xine play 
dvd's ok. It's just a problem with the qt version of vlc (0.9.4 Grishenko).

I've just rebooted to F8 on the same machine. Vlc is version 0.8.7 Janus 
(wxWidgets interface), and plays dvd's ok, and that is using the vesa 
graphics driver.

Personally, I'd try downloading, and installing the F8 version of vlc from the 
rpmfusion repo, if it's still available, as F8 is now no longer supported.

Just some observations from problems I've had with vlc on Ubuntu/Kubuntu 
Intrepid, using the qt version of vlc, and perhaps related to the graphics 
card driver being used.

Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble, but I've already posted my problem to 3 
mailing lists, including videolan, but with no replies. I've fixed my vlc 
problem on Ubuntu/Kubuntu Intrepid, by using an earlier version of vlc. The 
same may work for you.

All the best.

nigel.

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Anyway like to Test the java site below. F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
As it's quiet this afternoon, apart from several tests, could someone try the 
java site below, and verify the jigsaw applet won't load/initiate, using the 
java version installed on F9.

http://www.jigzone.com

The java test applet does work ok though.
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

The site works ok on Opera, and Konqueror, but I have to set a specific path 
to java on both.

The java path for Opera is below.
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre/lib/i386

And for Konqueror.
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0/bin/java

The site works ok on Firefox, with Sun's java installed, as I've tried that on 
another distro on the same machine.

F9 is 32bit

Thanks for any help.

Nigel.

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Re: Anyway like to Test the java site below. F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 17:07, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  As it's quiet this afternoon, apart from several tests, could someone try
  the java site below, and verify the jigsaw applet won't load/initiate,
  using the java version installed on F9.

 Try the F10 version, the plugin has support for LiveConnect now.

 Kevin Kofler

Hi Kevin.

I assume your asking me to try the F10 version of the plugin on F9. Yes?

I am still puzzled though, as to why, on Opera, and Konqueror, if I set a path 
to java, as on my original post, there is no problem with the jigzone site.

What exactly is this Live Connect?

Of course it would be nice if Firefox on it's Enable Java line, gave you a 
Java Options box where you could set a specific path to java, much as 
Opera, and Konqueror do. I have tried all I can think of in Firefox's 
about:config, to set a specific path to java, but to no avail.

Nigel.

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Re: Anyway like to Test the java site below. F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 18:04, Andrew Overholt wrote:
 Hi,

 * Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr [2009-01-31 11:54]:
  I assume your asking me to try the F10 version of the plugin on F9. Yes?

 I'm not sure it's been tested on F9 but yes, that's what he meant.

  I am still puzzled though, as to why, on Opera, and Konqueror, if I set a
  path to java, as on my original post, there is no problem with the
  jigzone site.

 I don't know.  jigzone uses LiveConnect which doesn't work at all with
 gcjwebplugin which is what was included with Fedora 9.  jigzone is one
 of the test sites that Deepak Bhole used while working on LiveConnect
 support.

  What exactly is this Live Connect?

 It's the Java-JavaScript bridge that many applet sites make use of.
 Support for it first appeared in Fedora 10.  In Fedora 9, the browser
 plugin was the old gcjwebplugin.  In Fedora 10, it's the completely
 re-written IcedTeaPlugin which has support for LiveConnect.

 HTH,

 Andrew

Thanks for the explanation Andrew. I'll have a go at installing the Iced Tea 
Plugin for F10 on F9. If it works ok, that's fine for my F9 install, but the 
same problem will still remain on my Kubuntu installs on this machine. I'll 
perhaps have to report a bug against the plugin on these.

Thanks again for your input.

Nigel.

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Re: No Sound on Fedora 10 with Audigy SB

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 20:46, RDB wrote:
 Hello,
 I've searched this in the archive and on the internet and still haven't
 found anything.
 I have Creative Audigy SB sound card. It doesn't work on F10. When logging
 in to KDE, KDE says something about pulse audio doesn't work, and phonon is
 falling back to use Audigy, but I still don't have any sound.
 I tried GNOME and still doesn't have sound.

 I thought there used to be system-config-soundcard , but I couldn't find
 that either. Below is some relevant output of lspci and lsmod in case it
 helps diagnosing the problem.

 I still have FC 7 on the system (multi-boot), and just confirmed that the
 sound works on FC 7.

 Thanks for any help.
 RDB


 $] lspci
 ...
 00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 05)
 ...

 $ lsmod  | grep snd
 snd_emu10k1_synth  15616  0
 snd_emux_synth 43392  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_seq_virmidi14080  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_seq_midi_emul  14080  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_emu10k1   152720  4 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_rawmidi30848  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
 snd_ac97_codec121160  1 snd_emu10k1
 ac97_bus   10112  1 snd_ac97_codec
 snd_seq_dummy  11396  0
 snd_seq_oss39104  0
 snd_seq_midi_event 14848  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
 snd_seq61968  8
 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,
snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss52224  0
 snd_mixer_oss  23168  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_pcm85512  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq_device 15380  7
 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_
seq_oss,snd_seq snd_timer  30352  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd_page_alloc 16656  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
 snd_util_mem   12416  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd_hwdep  16392  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd68984  23
 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_emu1
0k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss
,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
 soundcore  14992  1 snd

Try opening alsamixer as below, as maybe some sliders are down, or controls 
muted. The M key does the mute/unmute. Check the Analog A switch.

alsamixer -D :hw0

If that fails to work, disable pulseaudio, with the command below.
yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

Doing this will also remove the kde-settings-pulseaudio package

Reboot, and see if the sounds are now working with pulseaudio out of the 
equation.

All the best to you, and the worst to pulseaudio.

Nigel.

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Where to get the java plugin for F10. I'm using F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
Where do I get the java plugin from for F10. I'm using F9, but have problems 
with some java sites, and believe that the F10 version of the plugin resolves 
these problems.

I've already tried altering my sources list in apt to the F10 everything repo, 
but am getting parsing errors, which is annoying to say the least.

All I want to do is download an rpm for the the java plugin for F10, but can't 
find it anywhere. and I have tried google, but that's a waste of time.

A link would be helpfull, and I'd be most gratefull for that.

Nigel.

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Re: No Sound on Fedora 10 with Audigy SB

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:55, RDB wrote:
 On Saturday 31 January 2009 15:13:29 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Saturday 31 January 2009 20:46, RDB wrote:
   Hello,

 ...

   I have Creative Audigy SB sound card. It doesn't work on F10. ...snip

 Below is some relevant output of lspci and lsmod in

   case it helps diagnosing the problem.
 
  Try opening alsamixer as below, as maybe some sliders are down, or
  controls muted. The M key does the mute/unmute. Check the Analog A
  switch.

 I checked alsamixer before and it's unmuted. I am not sure with what you
 mean by Analog A switch.

  alsamixer -D :hw0

 For some reason, that command gives:
  $ alsamixer -D :hw0
 ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL :hw0

 alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for :hw0: No such file or directory

  If that fails to work, disable pulseaudio, with the command below.
  yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

 Did that, still no luck.

 Another curious thing, Alsamixes now shows :
 Card: Audigy 1 [Unknown]
 Chip: SigmaTel STAC9750,51

 Not sure if that's the correct chip (not sure how to find out either).
 Could it be getting the wrong driver or something ?

 Thanks.
 RDB

Usually there should be no problems with audigy cards using the emu10k1 
driver.

My alsamixer shows Card Audigy2 Platinum (SB0240P).
Chip: SigmaTel  STAC9721,23
All works ok for the sounds

Regarding the Analog A switch, that should have been Audigy A switch Try 
scrolling along the various controls in alsamixer using the arrow keys. You 
should find a control named Audigy A, and try changing it's state using the 
M key. This changes it's state from analog to digital output. Sometimes this 
control is muted, and consequently no analog sound output. It's also worth 
checking other sliders, like, Master, PCM, Front, Synth, and Wave, and 
pushing them up if at zero.

Apologies if I havn't helped to resolve your problem. I don't have F10 
installed on the machine with my soundblaster card, so I'm a bit in the dark 
with your problem.

Nigel.



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Re: Where to get the java plugin for F10. I'm using F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 22:25, Agile Aspect wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  Where do I get the java plugin from for F10. I'm using F9, but have
  problems with some java sites, and believe that the F10 version of the
  plugin resolves these problems.
 
  I've already tried altering my sources list in apt to the F10 everything
  repo, but am getting parsing errors, which is annoying to say the least.
 
  All I want to do is download an rpm for the the java plugin for F10, but
  can't find it anywhere. and I have tried google, but that's a waste of
  time.
 
  A link would be helpfull, and I'd be most gratefull for that.
 
  Nigel.

 It depends upon which JDK you're using.

 If you're using Sun's JDK or OpenJDK, download the software and extract
 the library libjavaplugin_oji.so.

As I've already mentioned on previous posts, I;m using the java version that 
was installed as part of the Fedora9 install. I know that Sun's jre will 
access the java sites that I'm having problems with, with no problems. All I 
am asking is where I can download the java plugin for F10, so that I can 
replace the java plugin that I have on my F9 install with the one for F10, 
which apparently will allow me to access the www.jigzone.com site, and the 
java applets for the jigsaws on that site, will then load/initiate.

Policital crap removed, as Im trying to resolve a problem on my machine, and 
have not the slightest interest in the politics of any country.

Thanks for your reply.

Nigel.

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Re: Where to get the java plugin for F10. I'm using F9

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 22:10, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  Where do I get the java plugin from for F10. I'm using F9, but have
  problems with some java sites, and believe that the F10 version of the
  plugin resolves these problems.

 Why don't you just upgrade to F10? Then you'll get it automatically.

 Kevin Kofler

Mainly because I don't want to. I'm on dialup, and it will take 14 days to 
download the CD iso's for F10. More to the point though, I'm trying to find 
just one package, the java plugin for F10, so that I can replace the F9 one 
with it. Nobody so far has come up with where I can get this from.

I've already made adjustments to my /etc/apt/sources.list, so as to download 
the filelists for F10's everything repo, but am getting parsing errors. 
Perhaps apt-get no longer works for F10.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother to try and resolve Fedora problems. I already 
have Suns JRE downloaded, and could simply replace the Fedora version with 
the real JRE, which I know will have no problems with the Java sites that are 
having problems with the Java version which is installed on Fedora 9.

I give up. i thought I'd asked a simple question, but am not getting a simple 
answer. Upgrade to F10 is not the answer, and I already know that installing 
Sun's JRE will resolve the problem. All I want is a link to where I can 
download the java plugin for F10 (from a Fedora repo), then i can replace the 
F9 one with it, and hopefully Firefox will then work with the www.jigzone.com 
site.

It's nearly 1am in Northern France, and I'm tired. I'm just trying to resolve 
a problem, not trying to get into an argument. I'm getting too old for that.

Nigel.

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Re: No Sound on Fedora 10 with Audigy SB

2009-01-31 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 31 January 2009 23:36, RDB wrote:
 On Saturday 31 January 2009 17:12:25 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:55, RDB wrote:
   On Saturday 31 January 2009 15:13:29 Nigel Henry wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 20:46, RDB wrote:
 Hello,
  
   ...
  
 I have Creative Audigy SB sound card. It doesn't work on F10.

 snip

  Usually there should be no problems with audigy cards using the emu10k1
  driver.
 
  My alsamixer shows Card Audigy2 Platinum (SB0240P).
  Chip: SigmaTel  STAC9721,23
  All works ok for the sounds
 
  Regarding the Analog A switch, that should have been Audigy A switch Try
  scrolling along the various controls in alsamixer using the arrow keys.

 That's it! The Analog / Digital switch is the key. After I changed its
 state in Alsamixer sounds now works !
 I disabled Pulseaudio stuff for now. But maybe this will work also with
 Pulseaudio (not sure about the merit of pulseaudio, and I know that some
 people don't like it. But out of curiosity, I might just give it a try.)

 Thank you very much !
 RDB

Well that's a nice end to the day. with helping someone to resolve a sound 
problem.

Enjoy the sounds RDB.

Nigel.





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Re: Gateway DX4720 installation problems

2009-01-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:46, Charles Landau wrote:
 David Timms wrote:
  David Timms wrote:
  Charles Landau wrote:
  I just bought a DX4720-03 from Gateway. Has anyone succeeded in
  installing Fedora on this system?
 
  checkout:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6611313
last post for a potential fix.

 That was my post. Yes, I've worked around this problem by using the
 kernel option noapic.

 The next problem is, it won't install in graphics mode, and once
 installed, it won't go into graphics mode. Apparently it is unhappy with
 the graphics processor on the DX4720-03.

 The F10 Live CD hangs up on a blank screen, which I suspect is also
 related to not being able to deal with the graphics processor.

 The DX4720-03 has an NVIDIA GeForce 7100 integrated graphics processor
 with shared memory.

 Does anyone know how to get this to work? Or do you have hints on
 diagnosing the problem?

Hi Charles.

I know on the machine I built with an Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I have to use the 
acpi=off option on the kernel line to install, and also the same acpi=off 
option post install, in order to get the machine to bootup. Without the 
acpi=off option, the machine would bootup as far as starting X, then freeze, 
which required a hard reset.

That is with F8, F9, Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04, 
Archlinux (Don't Panic), Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10, and Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10. the 
only 2 distros where I didn't have to append the kernel line, were 2 using 
much earlier kernels, mainly Debian Etch, and Kubuntu Breezy.

The acpi=off option may not work for you, but is just a thought.

Nigel.


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Re: Extract .rar files

2009-01-17 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 17 January 2009 21:49, Adil Drissi wrote:
 Hi all,

 Do you know about any tool that I can use for extracting .rar files?

 Thank you

Hi Adil.

You need the unrar package, which should be available from the rpmfusion repo.

Nigel.

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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 16:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 January 2009 14:31:52 M A Young wrote:
  On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
   F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called
   libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)
 
  Flash 9 (not Fedora 9) required that extra package to get sound working.
  Flash 10 doesn't need it, and indeed its presence can interfere with the
  working of Flash 10, so with Flash 10 you should remove this package, eg.
  rpm -e libflashsupport

 He did say he was using Fedora 9, and yes, it gave sound in flash.  If he
 isn't even seeing the video, presumably flash is not correctly/completely
 installed.

 Anne

I've just being trying to get flash working on Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10, as 
someone was having problems getting the site below to play. It wouldn't work 
with Adobe's flash 10, and the site was still complaing of flash being 
missing. Someone suggested Gnash, so I installed that, and the Gnash-plugin, 
but still no go, and I got a popup about missing codecs from Firefox, mainly, 
gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-extra, which is included in 
gstreamer-plugins-ugly. Installed those 2 packages, and now the site plays 
the flash stuff ok.

Just looked on my F9 install on the same machine. flash-plugin is installed 
(flash10), and libflashsupport is not installed. I see I also had Gnash 
installed. As installing gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-plugins-ugly on the 
Kubuntu install had worked, I tried this lastnight on F9, but still no go.

Now I've just installed gnash-plugin, and gnash-klash (which is supposed to 
get flash working in Konqueror (havn't tried Konqueror yet)). About:plugins 
in Firefox now shows 2 entries for Flash, but better than that, the site 
below plays.

http://www.koalabrothers.com

The site above is kiddie stuff, and someone on the Kubuntu list was trying to 
get it working. I've just passed 60 (Dec 18), but it's a bit of fun all the 
same.

btw. I've just tried Konqueror with the site, and that too plays the flash 
content ok. Only need to try Opera now, and if that too plays the flash 
stuff, it's all systems go.

Nigel.

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Re: The volume of audio is too low

2008-12-30 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 17:33, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All,

 After some updates, the volume of audio became too low. Any ideas? I
 am using F10.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

Hi Paul.

As usual I suspect Pulseaudio as the culprit, as it can be responsible for low 
volume levels.

First though, open alsamixer as user in a terminal, as below.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Assuming that your card is card0, this should show all sliders for your 
soundcard. Check for ones like, Master, PCM, Front, CD, which should be up.

If all's ok in alsamixer, try disabling Pulseaudio (unless you particularly 
want it), by removing the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, then reboot, and 
see if the sound levels are any better.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: The volume of audio is too low

2008-12-30 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 20:18, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Nigel Henry

 cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
  After some updates, the volume of audio became too low. Any ideas? I
  am using F10.
 
  As usual I suspect Pulseaudio as the culprit, as it can be responsible
  for low volume levels.
 
  First though, open alsamixer as user in a terminal, as below.
 
  alsamixer -D hw:0
 
  Assuming that your card is card0, this should show all sliders for your
  soundcard. Check for ones like, Master, PCM, Front, CD, which should be
  up.
 
  If all's ok in alsamixer, try disabling Pulseaudio (unless you
  particularly want it), by removing the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio,
  then reboot, and see if the sound levels are any better.

 Thanks, Nigel and David. After having played a bit with alsamixer, I
 got the audio back to its usual volume. I do not know how was it
 changed without my intervention...

 Paul

Audio on Linux can be a bit like playing with the dark arts at times. 
Muttering various incantions, while slaughtering a chicken, and fiddling with 
the alsamixer controls, all at the same time.

Nice to see you've got the sounds back to how they were before the updates 
though.

If you want to check on what the last updates were, run the command below as 
user. (scroll to the top of the list for the latest updates)
rpm -q -a --last

Perhaps I've just got it in for pulseaudio, but I'd guess there are pulseaudio 
updates showing there. I don't have an F10 install yet, so can't verify that.

All the best.

Nigel.


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Re: F9. KDE. Lost restart, and shutdown buttons after latest update

2008-12-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 29 December 2008 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  The latest updates as of 20081216

 That's 2 weeks out of date. Please update again.

 In particular, there is a fixed (reverted) dbus (1:1.2.4-2.fc9) which fixes
 your issue (so at the very least do a yum update dbus). This issue is
 caused by a dbus update, not a KDE update, KDE was just one of the apps hit
 by the D-Bus change, which got reverted because of the breakage it caused.

 Kevin Kofler

Just to confirm that I did the updates last night, and the 3 options when 
pressing leave are now displayed again.

My history file shows, dbus, dbus-libs, and dbus-x11 reverted from 1.2.8-1.fc9 
to 1.2.4-2.fc9.

Thanks to you Kevin, and Rex, and of course Anne, for your help.

Nigel.

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F9. KDE. Lost restart, and shutdown buttons after latest update

2008-12-28 Thread Nigel Henry
I initially had one user set up on F9, and had all 3 buttons (logout, restart, 
and shutdown) available when pressing the leave button on KDE's menu. I 
added another user, and still had all 3 options when pressing the leave 
button. that applied to whichever user I was logged in to.

The latest updates as of 20081216, which updated a load of KDE stuff, have 
reset the goalposts somewhat, as now when I press the leave button for either 
user, all I get is the option to logout. The restart, and shutdown buttons no 
longer exist.

Anyone know which file to edit, to get all 3 options showing again, when I 
press the leave button in KDE's menu.

I've been into system settings  advanced  session manager, and the offer 
shutdowns options box is still checked.

Any pointers to resolve the problem will be very welcome.

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Re: F9. KDE. Lost restart, and shutdown buttons after latest update

2008-12-28 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 28 December 2008 22:48, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 28 December 2008 21:31:05 Nigel Henry wrote:
  I initially had one user set up on F9, and had all 3 buttons (logout,
  restart, and shutdown) available when pressing the leave button on
  KDE's menu. I added another user, and still had all 3 options when
  pressing the leave button. that applied to whichever user I was logged in
  to.
 
  The latest updates as of 20081216, which updated a load of KDE stuff,
  have reset the goalposts somewhat, as now when I press the leave button
  for either user, all I get is the option to logout. The restart, and
  shutdown buttons no longer exist.
 
  Anyone know which file to edit, to get all 3 options showing again, when
  I press the leave button in KDE's menu.
 
  I've been into system settings  advanced  session manager, and the
  offer shutdowns options box is still checked.
 
  Any pointers to resolve the problem will be very welcome.

 We had that problem in F10 for about 10 days.  A new set of updates came
 out just before Christmas fixed it.  I'd guess that you'll get the fix in a
 few days.  HTH

 Anne

Hi Anne.

Thanks for that info. I'll just patiently hang on a few days.

All the best.

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Re: awesfx missing - can't load soundfonts

2008-12-22 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 22 December 2008 15:25, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:44:28 -0500, Gene wrote:
   Does anyone know where I can find an x86_64 awesfx package for Fedora
   10?
  
  It's marked dead.package. See:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/405131
 
  That is bs Michael.  There are a kajillion of those cards in the field. I
  have an Audigy2 value myself, and have no intention of going back to a 16
  bit card with no headroom.

 Well, I just pointed to the ticket where people killed this pkg.
 Talk to them if you believe they've done a mistake.

Hi Michael.

I have seen packages dropped from Fedora before now. Alsaplayer, as an 
example. But in that case there were other players available, but no 
consolation to folks that used, and liked Alsaplayer.

In the case of the awesfx package, it is the only one available to load .sf2 
soundfonts for those users that have an audigy card (emu10k1), including 
myself.

I do find the statement below by Martin Stransky below, a bit over the top, 
and am at a loss as to how he has concluded that awesfx is obsolete, and no 
longer needed.

quote from bugzilla above
Comment #9 From  Martin Stransky  2008-04-09 14:54:36 EDT  ---

I think we can remove the awesfx package from distro. It's quite obsolete
now...
end quote

Just out of interest I fired up my Ubuntu 8.10 install, which is using the 
2.6.27-7-generic kernel, and awesfx is available, and have just installed it 
with no problems. I can't try loading a soundfont, as my audigy2 soundblaster 
card (emu10k1) is on a different machine, but don't see any problems in doing 
so.

If Ubuntu can continue to provide the awesfx package on their latest release 
(Intrepid Ibex 8.10), it is a bit puzzling why Fedora have decided to remove 
it, when so many folks (Gene included), are still using audigy (emu10k1) 
soundcards, which are well supported by Alsa.

Just some comments from a Fedora user.

Nigel.


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Re: awesfx missing - can't load soundfonts

2008-12-22 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 22 December 2008 19:00, Alan Cox wrote:
  If Ubuntu can continue to provide the awesfx package on their latest
  release (Intrepid Ibex 8.10), it is a bit puzzling why Fedora have
  decided to remove it, when so many folks (Gene included), are still using
  audigy (emu10k1) soundcards, which are well supported by Alsa.
 
  Just some comments from a Fedora user.

 If you have the hardware and you think awesfx is needed on Fedora then
 one option is to become a package maintainer and maintain that package.

 Alan

I am neither a programmer, or a package manager. I 'm just an ordinary Fedora 
user. I've been using Fedora since Fedora Core 1, and awesfx was available 
then, and I was, and still am gratefull for being able to use this program to 
load soundfonts.

If the Ubuntu packagers for Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex 8.10, still have awesfx 
available on their repo's, what exactly is the problem with Fedora doing the 
same?

Nigel.


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Re: f10 no sound through usb headset

2008-12-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 19 December 2008 19:11, Don Raikes wrote:
 I have f10 installed and running fine on my gateway system, but I wanted to
 use my plantronics headset with it. I plugged in the headset and can see
 from the log that it is recognized, but I get no sound through the headset.

 Any thoughts appreciated.

Hi Don.

I'm not too up to speed on USB audio apps, apart from my USB midi keyboard, 
but I'll have a go to start things off.

Is this on a laptop, or a PC? Which make, and model?

I assume that the sounds are working on F10, apart from the headset problem.

With the headset unplugged, post back the output from the commands below.

cat /proc/asound/cards
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

If you have a laptop, with built in webcam, and mike, you will probably see 
lsmod showing the snd-usb-audio module loaded, and the output from, 
cat /proc/asound/cards will also show a card entry (perhaps card1, or card2) 
for a USB device (a webcam's mike perhaps).

Anyway. Post back the output from running the commands above, and we'll take 
it from there.

All the best.

Nigel.




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Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9

2008-12-17 Thread Nigel Henry
First, an apology to the list for ranting, and using bad language. I was 
feeling somewhat frustrated. Comments below to yesterday's apt-get problem.


On Wednesday 17 December 2008 02:38, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  [r...@localhost djmons]# apt-get update

 ...

  Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ filelists.sqlite
  apt-get: rpm/rpmindexfile.cc:645: std::string
  rpmRepomdIndex::IndexURI(std::string) const: Assertion `Res.size()  0'
  failed.

 ...

  I've had to do a yum update to update F9, which went ok, but what the
  hell has gone wrong with apt, and apt-get?

 It's hard to say from the output, but it could be that Livna's repo is
 broken in some way.

This evening I booted up F9 again, opened up /etc/apt/sources.list, and 
comented out all uncommented lines. These were the ones for Livna, Fedora 
(everything), and Fedora (newkey-updates). the only uncommented was the Adobe 
one for flash.

Then ran apt-get update, and no problems with the adobe repo, then uncommented 
Fedora (Everything). Another apt-get update (which took more than an hour, as 
I'm on dialup), but again no problems. Now I uncomment the updates newkey 
repo, and run apt-get update again. Still no problems. So now I uncomment the 
Livna repo, run apt-get update once more, and still no problems.

This is all a bit weird. Yesterday apt had gone all pear shaped, but today 
it's working as it allways has done, with no problems. Synaptic doesn't 
crash, as it did yesterday. Synaptic still has the problem of not being able 
to install packages on F9. Some bug to do with MD5 missmatches, but that's 
another problem, not yet resolved on F9.

  As a side issue rpmfusion has just come on the scene, and where I could
  you apt with livna, and freshrpm's, but rpmfusion has no support for
  users of apt, but only Yum.

 As far as I know, both yum and apt use the same repomd format.  The only
 thing that should be standing in your way is that the release packages
 don't have apt repository files.  If you manually add the repositories
 using the information provided for yum, apt should work.

I did try creating stanzas for the rpmfusion repo's, but they only partially 
worked. Apt didn't complain about malformed lines for the free, and nonfree 
lines, but only a few bytes were downloaded. I then added lines for the 
updates for free, and nonfree packages, then ran apt-get update, and got a 
lot of output regarding parsing problems.

I'll have to ask on the rpmfusion list, and have already seen some replies in 
my inbox from others about this problem.

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Re: How do I turn off KGet ?

2008-12-16 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 18:23, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 December 2008 14:36:47 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  Somehow I turned on KGet.  How do I turn it off ?

 Have you a panel icon?  Just right click on it, and Quit.

 Anne

Hi Anne.

Long time no speaks.

I always use Kget, as it has resume support. I have it enabled since FC2, and 
it's in KDE's panel, but doesn't open up on the desktop when logging into 
KDE, until Fedora 9, where it opens up on the desktop, each time I login.

Comparing the Kget configure for FC2, and F9, I see that F9 has Show main 
window at startup box checked, but on my FC2 install (where I'm posting 
from), that box is not checked. The same applies to all Fedora versions up to 
F8. Quite why anyone when logging in would want Kget's window displaying on 
the desktop as default is beyond me, as it's only a click on the panel icon 
to display Kget on the desktop.

Anyway, just unchecking the Show main window at startup box in Kget's 
configure has stopped Kget's main window being displayed on F9's desktop, 
each time I bootup.

A bit of added info for any one interested. Firefox's downloader doesn't 
appear to have resume support, so installing the Flashgot extension fixes 
that, as it gives you the option to use Kget for downloads.

Now I don't particularly like Flashgot, as it seems to have updates every 5 
mins, and also insists on opening a webpage to their site, after updating 
flashgot. I've got used to just clicking on the skip button now, whenever I 
see new updates for the Flashgot extension.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Apt-get really screwed up on F9

2008-12-16 Thread Nigel Henry
Anyone using apt, and apt-get on F9?

There were problems with synaptic on F9. I could remove packages, but not 
install packages. MD5 sum missmatch problem. I posted a bug report for this, 
and saw there was already another bug report for the same problem.

As of the last day or so, I did an apt-get update, and got the following.

[djm...@localhost djmons]$ ssh 192.168.0.196
djm...@192.168.0.196's password:
Last login: Sun Nov  2 20:24:44 2008 from 192.168.0.230
-bash-3.2$ su
Password:
[r...@localhost djmons]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/ 
repomd.xml [2390B]
Get:2 http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386 repomd.xml [951B]
Get:3 http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ repomd.xml [2142B]
Get:4 http://download.fedora.redhat.com 
fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ repomd.xml [2442B]
Fetched 7925B in 2s (3489B/s)
Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/ 
primary.sqlite
Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/ 
filelists.sqlite
Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com 
fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ primary.sqlite
Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com 
fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ filelists.sqlite
Hit http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386/ primary.xml
Hit http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386/ filelists.xml
Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ primary.sqlite
Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ filelists.sqlite
Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ primary.sqlite
Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ filelists.sqlite
apt-get: rpm/rpmindexfile.cc:645: std::string 
rpmRepomdIndex::IndexURI(std::string) const: Assertion `Res.size()  0' 
failed.
Aborted
[r...@localhost djmons]#

I've had to do a yum update to update F9, which went ok, but what the hell has 
gone wrong with apt, and apt-get?

I have to say that I'm really annoyed with this, as I've been using apt since 
Fedora Core 1, with virtually no problems.

As a side issue rpmfusion has just come on the scene, and where I could you 
apt with livna, and freshrpm's, but rpmfusion has no support for users of 
apt, but only Yum.

I think it's about time to say goodbye to new versions of Fedora. I'm posting 
from FC2. No longer supported, but working like clockwork, apart froma small 
problem with my mouse from time to time.

Fedora users ignore this post please. This is a complaint to the Fedora 
developers, who are living in their own little world. I thought that Linux 
was about choices, but it appears that Fedora devs have decided that Yum is 
the way to go, and Apt can go down the can, and be no longer supported.

I couldn't care less what replies I get, as I'm seriously pissed off with 
Fedora 9 at the moment..

Nigel.

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Re: Can't find kernel-devel pkg for kernel 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686

2008-12-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 15 December 2008 17:39, dexter wrote:
 2008/12/14 Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr:
  I'm trying to upgrade the alsa driver. I have the headers for kernel
  2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686, but had not installed the kernel-devel pkg for the
  same kernel. Now there are updates with a new kernel, and the
  kernel-devel pkg for the previous one no longer exists in the repo.
 
  Anyone know where I can find kernel-devel pkg (i686) for the above
  kernel?
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
  Nigel.

 For recent builds:
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=69696

 ...dex

Thanks for the links Dex. Problem resolved hopefully, and links saved for 
future use.

Nigel.

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Can't find kernel-devel pkg for kernel 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686

2008-12-14 Thread Nigel Henry
I'm trying to upgrade the alsa driver. I have the headers for kernel 
2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686, but had not installed the kernel-devel pkg for the same 
kernel. Now there are updates with a new kernel, and the kernel-devel pkg for 
the previous one no longer exists in the repo.

Anyone know where I can find kernel-devel pkg (i686) for the above kernel?

Thanks for any help.

Nigel.

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Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10

2008-12-10 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 21:56, sfilippo wrote:
 Taken out alsa-plugins-pulseaudio from a fresh install, no luck. This is
 the output:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
   HDA Intel at 0xfeb38000 irq 16
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] ~]# grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
 Codec: Motorola Si3054

Hi Salvatore.

I think that the problem is with the codec, which is for a sound component on 
a modem. There are some problematic drivers that insist on grabbing card0, 
and as the actual soundcard uses card0, the soundcard is not able to be 
initiated.

You could check this out on your FC 7 install. In a terminal type as below, 
and you should see a different codec listed, which is the actual one for the 
soundcard, and would be why sounds are working on FC7, and earlier. If that 
is so, we now need to stop the Motorola one grabbing card0.

grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*

The easiest thing to try is to add a line to /etc/modprobe.conf, if it exists. 
If modprobe.conf doesn't exist on F10, create the file, and add a line like 
the example below.

options snd-usb-audio index=-2

You'll need to change snd-usb-audio for the driver that is for this modem. 
The -2 means that instead of the driver grabbing card0, it will use any other 
slot available, apart from card0, thereby allowing the actual soundcard to 
use card0.

Type /sbin/lsmod in a terminal, and see if you can see the module for this 
modem. It will probably have an m at the end of it's name. If you can 
identify it, exchange snd-usb-audio on the example line above with the one 
you think is correct. Next, pray, and then reboot, and see if the sounds work 
on F10.

Would you post me the full output from running /sbin/lsmod. It may help me if 
this problem shows up in the future on someone else's machine.

Also would you say if /etc/modprobe.conf exists on a fresh install of F10, or 
whether you have had to create the file.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10

2008-12-10 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 16:57, sfilippo wrote:
 Hmm.
 Isn't it the case that all normal multimedia packages require pulseaudio
 to produce sound, and therefore would be effectively disabled???

Hi Salvatore.

That most definately is not the case. With Pulseaudio disabled, your sound 
apps will use Alsa directly, without Pulseaudio entering the equation.

I have disabled Pulseaudio on all my Fedora installsF8, and F9, with no 
problems. I still have Pulseaudio enabled on a Ubuntu 8.10 install, mainly 
because I can't find out how to disable it, but the sounds are working ok.

Pulseaudio appears to be usefull for setting volume levels for different audio 
apps that are running. As an example. You are listening to music, and you 
like too listen to it loud. You also have IM running (Gaim/Pidgin, Kopete 
whatever). Your volume is set to loud, and when you get a message from IM, 
you get a huge DING-DONG. With Pulseaudio you can set the level for your 
music app to high, and the level for the IM sounds to low, so that they are 
heard in the background, and you know that a message has arrived, without 
being a huge DING-DONG, which is likely to make you fall off your chair.

I believe that Pulseaudio can also be used for networking sound to other 
computers in your home. How well this works, I don't know, as I'm alone, 
apart from my dog. The dog's not too good on the keyboard. Paws too big for 
picking out individual keys.

Nigel.

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Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10

2008-12-10 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 23:11, sfilippo wrote:
 Under F7 I see this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] ~]$ grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: Realtek ALC660-VD
 /proc/asound/card0/codec#1:Codec: Motorola Si3054
 Under F10 I only see this
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] ~]#  grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
 Codec: Motorola Si3054
 Fedora 10 lsmod
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] ~]# lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 fuse   49436  2
 i915   53380  2
 drm   158260  3 i915
 i2c_core   21396  1 drm
 rfcomm 33936  4
 sco12932  2
 bridge 43668  0
 stp 6148  1 bridge
 bnep   14848  2
 l2cap  21504  16 rfcomm,bnep
 sunrpc155924  3
 ip6t_REJECT 7296  2
 nf_conntrack_ipv6  15864  2
 ip6table_filter 6400  1
 ip6_tables 14736  1 ip6table_filter
 ipv6  230132  22 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
 cpufreq_ondemand9996  2
 acpi_cpufreq   12172  0
 dm_multipath   17164  0
 uinput 10624  0
 snd_hda_intel 351124  0
 snd_seq_dummy   6660  0
 snd_seq_oss30364  0
 snd_seq_midi_event  9600  1 snd_seq_oss
 8139cp 21504  0
 firewire_ohci  22532  0
 snd_seq48576  5
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 10124 
 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
 arc45760  2
 snd_pcm_oss42496  0
 snd_mixer_oss  16896  1 snd_pcm_oss
 btusb  14360  3
 snd_pcm65924  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
 ecb 6528  2
 ricoh_mmc   7552  0
 crypto_blkcipher   18052  1 ecb
 snd_timer  22024  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 8139too24708  0
 sdhci_pci  10624  0
 bluetooth  48608  11 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb
 firewire_core  35616  1 firewire_ohci
 crc_itu_t   5760  1 firewire_core
 snd_page_alloc 11016  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 sdhci  17540  1 sdhci_pci
 mmc_core   43676  1 sdhci
 snd_hwdep  10500  1 snd_hda_intel
 mii 8192  2 8139cp,8139too
 snd50616  10
 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,
snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep gspca_vc032x   19584  0
 soundcore   9416  1 snd
 iTCO_wdt   13732  0
 iTCO_vendor_support 6916  1 iTCO_wdt
 gspca_main 21504  1 gspca_vc032x
 videodev   32000  1 gspca_main
 v4l1_compat15876  1 videodev
 iwl3945   129628  0
 rfkill 11288  2 iwl3945
 mac80211  173668  1 iwl3945
 cfg80211   23816  2 iwl3945,mac80211
 serio_raw   8836  0
 pcspkr  6272  0
 joydev 12736  0
 video  20244  0
 output  6528  1 video
 asus_laptop18168  0
 ata_generic 8452  0
 pata_acpi   7680  0


Hi Salvatore.

I can't see a modem module in your lsmod output. There appears to be a codec 
conflict between the Realtek codec (actual soundcard), and the Motorola codec 
(modem) one. Both appear to be using the snd-hda-intel driver.

Ok. Let's go for this. I'm not too used to Gnome, as I use KDE, but let's 
first create the modprobe.conf file.

Open a terminal, type su, then your root password, then type nautilus. You 
should now have nautilus open in root mode. Right click, and select Create 
Document  Empty File. name it, modprobe.conf. Right click on the newly 
created modprobe.conf file, and select Open with text editor, which will open 
Gedit, which I do use a lot on KDE. Now add the following line to the open 
Gedit.

options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1

Click on save. Close everything, reboot, and hope for the best. Sometimes this 
stuff can be a bit hit and miss.

Now the sounds are working. Yes?

Sorry about that. it's getting a bit late, and I've had a few beers. 
probe_mask=1 will use the first codec on the list, and this will be set as 
card0. This should be the Realtek ALC660-VD one in your case, and the 
Motorola one will be ignored.

Over to you, and all the best.

Nigel.



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Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10

2008-12-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 15:47, sfilippo wrote:
 Hi there,
 I would really appreciate any help on the following issue.
 I own an ASUS W5F with an Intel motherboard, the output from lspci is
 below. The computer has had both Fedora 6 and Fedora 7 working; since
 Fedora 8 I tried upgrading and/or fresh install  (in a separate partition)
 and/or live CD for FC8, FC9 and FC10  but I cannot get the sound subsystem
 to work. The closest I can get (today) is the gnome-sound-properties to
 open and show the test-sound pipeline progress bar working, but no sound
 in the earphones. This cannot possibly be a hardware problem because sound
 works OK under FC7. I tried many of the hints given on pulseaudio/alsa, but
 could not get things to work. The maddening thing is that I didn't have to
 do anything at all to have it working under FC7, it just run out of the
 box. More annoying is that under FC10 the wifi card works with the default
 distribution, which it didn't do under F7.

 S, what's so special about this machine that gets forgotten by
 subsequent releases Any info needed to try to debug?
 As I said, I normally work from the FC7 partition, so comparing the two
 configurations is a very easy task.

 Help, please ??

 Salvatore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] ~]$ /sbin/lspci
 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
 Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G

Ola Salvatore.

As this only happened since F8, I'd suspect Pulseaudio, and I did have 
problems with Pulseaudio with F8 on one machine. No sounds, but as soon as I 
disabled Pulseaudio, the sounds came back. To disable it, simply remove the 
package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.
yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

With the package above still installed, open alsamixer in a terminal as user. 
You will only see one slider, the pulseaudio one. Open alsamixer as below, 
and you will see all controls available for the soundcard.

alsamixer -D hw:0

There may be something that is now muted since F8, and needs to be unmuted 
(the M key toggles the mute/unmute). Left, and right arrow keys for scrolling 
through the controls. Some may need to be pushed up. The usual ones are, 
Master, PCM, Front, CD, if they exist. If a switch (external amplifier, or 
external speaker) exists, try toggling that, while some audio app is playing 
something.

Would you post the output from the following commands please.

cat /proc/asound/cards
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

All the best.

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Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.

2008-12-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 18:44, Reg Clemens wrote:
 Actually I didnt answer the question asked.
 Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that.
 I dont have any sound at all on f9.
 On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound.

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Hi Reg.

I'd go for a, yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio , then see if you have 
sounds. Pulseaudio can be a pain in the backside. F8 on one machine with an 
audigy2 soundblaster card. No sounds until I removed the package above. On 
another machine with an hda intel soundcard, sounds worked ok without 
disabling Pulseaudio. Worth a try, and you can always re-install the 
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package if you feel you need it.

It's also worth a look at alsamixer, while Pulseaudio is still enabled. Open 
alsamixer as below, to view all controls.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Check for muted controls (the M key toggles mute/unmute), and sliders set to 
zero. Master, PCM, Front, CD, are the usual sliders to look at.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: F10 - No sound on my OQO

2008-12-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 05 December 2008 03:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Thursday 04 December 2008 22:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Thursday 04 December 2008 18:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  First, I have sound on another OQO running Centos 5.2 (ALSA 1.0.14 I
  believe).
 
  Now here is some forensics:
 
 
   From lspci -v:
 
  02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
  Controller (rev 10)
  Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
  Controller
  Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 17
  Memory at c200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
  Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
  Count=1/1 Enable-
  Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint,
  MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
  Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
 
  cat /proc/asound/version
 
  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.
 
  cat /proc/asound/cards
 
  --- no soundcards ---
 
 
  OOPS Why no sound card?
 
  Hi Robert.
 
  What exactly is an OQO?
 
  www.oqo.com
 
  I have the model 2 without the touchscreen or WiMax.
 
  No sound card, means just that. the soundcard can't be detected.
 
  You may find that the snd modules are loaded. Try the command as below,
  and post back the output.
  /sbin/lsmod | grep snd
 
  snd_hda_intel 351124 0
  snd_seq_dummy 6660 0
  snd_seq_oss 30364 0
  snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss
  snd_seq 48576 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
  snd_seq_device 10124 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
  snd_pcm_oss 42496 0
  snd_mixer_oss 16896 1 snd_pcm_oss
  snd_pcm 65924 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
  snd_timer 22024 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
  snd_page_alloc 11016 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
  snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel
  snd 50616 10
  snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_o
 ss, snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9416 1 snd
 
  Which make/model of Laptop/PC is this? The OQO bit is a bit confusing.
 
  I have 4 of these to be a portable test/demo bed. 3 of them have Centos
  5.2 on them. One has F10. Interesting comparison of what works for
  Centos and what with F10. Sound is one of the items working fine with
  the Centos installs.
 
  You could download the script from the link below, save it as
  alsa-info.sh, make it executable, then run it as ./alsa-info.sh.
  Running this script will upload info about your machine, and
  specifically sound related stuff to a website. Post back the link to
  the site, and I, and hopefully others can examine your problem.
 
  http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh
 
  Sound not working on F10. See link to alsa-info.sh output below.
 
  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a984f3d7859f7c239c6ecf2cbf5614a1fbdd6c
 ff
 
  Hi Robert.
 
  Would you please run the alsa-info.sh script on one of your Centos 5.2
  machines, where the sound is working ok. Don't trim anything on your
  reply, but just add the new link, identifying it as, Sound working with
  Centos 5.2. See link to alsa-info.sh output below.

 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5d592ffd6dd37b033a165c4c4701651b84d76155

 Thank you for your help on this.

Hi Robert.

Thanks for the link above, showing the Centos setup.

Was Fedora 10 a fresh install, or did you upgrade from an earlier version of 
Fedora.

I notice that alsa-driver is version 1.0.17, but you have alsa lib 1.0.18rc3, 
and alsa-utils 1.0.18. I don't yet have F10 installed to compare, but did you 
upgrade the alsa libs, and alsa utils?

You could disable pulseaudio, with a yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. I 
don't think it will change anything regarding the card being detected, but 
it's worth a reboot after removing that package just to see.

Also open a terminal, su to root and run, tail -f /var/log/messages, then open 
another terminal, and su to root, and run the following commands.
modprobe -r snd-hda-intel
modprobe snd-hda-intel

See for any messages, and if modprobe snd-hda-intel complains.

I can't think of anything else at the mo.

Nigel.


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Re: Which alsa packages are default in Fedora 10

2008-12-05 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 05 December 2008 21:46, stan wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  I'm trying to help someone with sound problems on Fedora 10. I don't have
  F10 installed, and am not sure which alsa packages are installed on a
  fresh install of F10.
 
  I know the alsa-driver is 1.0.17, but he is showing alsa-lib as
  1.0.18rc3, and alsa-utils as 1.0.18. This seems a bit strange, as the
  alsa driver is an earlier version than those for alsa-lib, and
  alsa-utils.
 
  Could someone have a look in Yumex, and see which alsa-lib, and
  alsa-utils versions are installed on their machine.
 
  Please say whether this is after or before doing a post install yum
  update, and if the rpmfusion repo's are enabled, or not.
 
  Many thanks for replies.
 
  Nigel.

 I don't know about default, but I have the following alsa
 packages on a fully updated Fedora 10 x86_64 system after
 customizing.

 alsa-lib.i3861.0.18-6.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-lib.x86_64  1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-lib-devel.x86_641.0.18-6.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-oss.x86_64  1.0.17-1.fc10
 installed
 alsa-oss-devel.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10
 installed
 alsa-oss-libs.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-jack.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-oss.x86_64  1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.x86_64   1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-samplerate.x86_64   1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-upmix.x86_641.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-plugins-vdownmix.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10
 installed
 alsa-tools.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10
 installed
 alsa-utils.x86_641.0.18-6.fc10
 installed
 alsamixergui.x86_64  0.9.0-0.4.rc1.fc9.2
 installed
 balsa.x86_64 2.3.26-2.fc10
 installed
 bluez-alsa.x86_644.17-2.fc10
 installed
 callweaver-alsa.x86_64   1.2.0.1-1.2.fc10
 installed
 python-alsaaudio.x86_64  0.3-1.fc9
 installed

 I'm not sure if the alsa-lib.i386 is necessary or caused by
 some fumbling around I've done.

Thanks Stan.

That sort of looks like there should be no problem in having an earlier 
version of the alsa driver than the versions of alsa-lib, and alsa-utils.

I'm trying to help someone with sound problems with Fedora 10. All sound 
modules are loaded, but no soundcard detected.

This is on an OQO pocket pc machine. He has another 3 of these machines, which 
are using Centos 5.2, and sound is working on these, but no sounds from the 
one with Fedora 10 installed.

 www.oqo.com

Centos 5.2 is using alsa driver version 1.0.14rc3, and sounds are fine, yet 
Fedora 10 using alsa driver 1.0.17, has all snd modules loaded, but no 
soundcard detected.

The thread starts yesterday, with the subject line.
F10-No sound on my OQO

Any suggestions to resolving Robert's problem

Links to the output after running the alsa-info.sh script below.

The link below is the output from running alsa-info.sh on F10
http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a984f3d7859f7c239c6ecf2cbf5614a1fbdd6c

And the link below is the output for running alsa-info.sh on his Centos 
installs.
http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5d592ffd6dd37b033a165c4c4701651b84d76155

Nigel.

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Re: F10 - No sound on my OQO

2008-12-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 04 December 2008 18:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 First, I have sound on another OQO running Centos 5.2 (ALSA 1.0.14 I
 believe).

 Now here is some forensics:


  From lspci -v:

 02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
 Controller (rev 10)
 Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
 Controller
 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 17
 Memory at c200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
 Count=1/1 Enable-
 Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

 cat /proc/asound/version

 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.

 cat /proc/asound/cards

 --- no soundcards ---


 OOPS Why no sound card?

Hi Robert.

What exactly is an OQO?

No sound card, means just that. the soundcard can't be detected.

You may find that the snd modules are loaded. Try the command as below, and 
post back the output.
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

Which make/model of Laptop/PC is this? The OQO bit is a bit confusing.

You could download the script from the link below, save it as alsa-info.sh, 
make it executable, then run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Running this script will 
upload info about your machine, and specifically sound related stuff to a 
website. Post back the link to the site, and I, and hopefully others can 
examine your problem.

http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh

All the best.

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Re: F10 - No sound on my OQO

2008-12-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 04 December 2008 22:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Nigel Henry wrote:
  On Thursday 04 December 2008 18:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  First, I have sound on another OQO running Centos 5.2 (ALSA 1.0.14 I
  believe).
 
  Now here is some forensics:
 
 
   From lspci -v:
 
  02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
  Controller (rev 10)
  Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio
  Controller
  Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 17
  Memory at c200 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
  Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
  Count=1/1 Enable-
  Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI
  00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
  Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
 
  cat /proc/asound/version
 
  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.
 
  cat /proc/asound/cards
 
  --- no soundcards ---
 
 
  OOPS Why no sound card?
 
  Hi Robert.
 
  What exactly is an OQO?

 www.oqo.com

 I have the model 2 without the touchscreen or WiMax.

  No sound card, means just that. the soundcard can't be detected.
 
  You may find that the snd modules are loaded. Try the command as below,
  and post back the output.
  /sbin/lsmod | grep snd

 snd_hda_intel 351124 0
 snd_seq_dummy 6660 0
 snd_seq_oss 30364 0
 snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss
 snd_seq 48576 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
 snd_seq_device 10124 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
 snd_pcm_oss 42496 0
 snd_mixer_oss 16896 1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_pcm 65924 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
 snd_timer 22024 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd_page_alloc 11016 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel
 snd 50616 10
 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,
snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9416 1 snd

  Which make/model of Laptop/PC is this? The OQO bit is a bit confusing.

 I have 4 of these to be a portable test/demo bed. 3 of them have Centos
 5.2 on them. One has F10. Interesting comparison of what works for
 Centos and what with F10. Sound is one of the items working fine with
 the Centos installs.

  You could download the script from the link below, save it as
  alsa-info.sh, make it executable, then run it as ./alsa-info.sh. Running
  this script will upload info about your machine, and specifically sound
  related stuff to a website. Post back the link to the site, and I, and
  hopefully others can examine your problem.
 
  http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh

Sound not working on F10. See link to alsa-info.sh output below.

 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a984f3d7859f7c239c6ecf2cbf5614a1fbdd6cff

Hi Robert.

Would you please run the alsa-info.sh script on one of your Centos 5.2 
machines, where the sound is working ok. Don't trim anything on your reply, 
but just add the new link, identifying it as, Sound working with Centos 5.2. 
See link to alsa-info.sh output below.

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Re: no sound in fedora 9 new install on dell optiplex 745

2008-12-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 00:13, L wrote:
 the sound isn't working in my new fedora 9 (Linux 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.x86_64)
 install. not sure why.

 here are some info

 [local|10:11:51|~]lspci

 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
 Controller (rev 02)

 [local|10:12:40|~]lsmod
big snip
Hello.
All required modules show as loaded, but that doesn't always mean that the 
card has been detected.


Would you post the output from the following commands.

cat /proc/asound/version
cat /proc/asound/cards
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*

If the card exists as card0 in /proc/asound/cards, open alsamixer in a 
terminal as user, with the following command.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Check for any muted controls (M key toggles mute/unmute), and for any sliders 
that need pushing up. Master, PCM, Front, CD, are the obvious ones.

You could also go the link below, and save the script as, alsa-info.sh , make 
it executable (right click on the file, and in properties, permissions, check 
the executable box). then run the script as, ./alsa-info.sh , and post back 
the link to the site where data about your machine, and sound has been 
uploaded to.

http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: Mixer settings get overridden after start of the X-server

2008-12-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 19:20, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 This is a behavior (bug?) I had observed since F9, so I hoped it would
 be cured in F10, but alas ...

 Whenever the X-server starts, the mixer settings of my audio system
 (kmix, alsamixer) get lost to some rather useless defaults, e. g. I have
 to manually unmute the right playback channel.

 I have found out that the settings are restored correctly at system
 start: when I boot into runlevel 3, alsamixer shows any settings that I
 had made before. The calamity seems to happen when X and/or KDE come up.

 My sound card is an old but rather complex one (Terratec DMX6Fire 24/96)
 which has been well supported by the ALSA-drivers for years now.

 Thanks in advance for any pointers
 Klaus

Hi Klaus.

Just a thought. When booting up alsactrl restore is run, and restores the 
alsamixer settings to what they were when you last shutdown. Now when you 
login to KDE, Kmix can mess with these settings.

have a look in Kmix, Settings, configure Kmix, and uncheck the box Restore 
volumes on login, if that is checked. I have found that to be a problem with 
restoring the sound settings correctly with many Fedora versions when using 
KDE.

Just a thought.

Nigel.


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Re: sound card doesn't work .( Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01))

2008-12-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:56, 雨丝 wrote:
 Hi,
  
   I  have the fedora 10 installed on my computer just now. I like the new
 release very much. But It is a pity that I can't listen music . I have do
 the following thing to check that. 1.  I issue the lspic command in the
 linux termianl window. I get the following result.

 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel
 Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)

 2. I  issue the play command in the terminal window,and gett the
 following result. startup3.wav:

   Encoding: Signed PCM   
   Channels: 2 @ 16-bit  
 Samplerate: 44100Hz 
 Replaygain: off
   Duration: 00:00:05.01 

 In:100%  00:00:05.01 [00:00:00.00] Out:221k  [  |  ]   
 Clip:0    Done.
   But I can't hear any sound .
 3. I use the cat comand to a music file to /dev/audio.  and I can hear the
 sound ,But It is not the music ,only some sound . cat startup3.wav
 /dev/audio.

  Who have encouter the same problem or know the resolution to resolve that
 ? Please tell me . Thank you very much.

Which make, and model of Laptop/PC are you using?

Will you post the output of the following commands please.

cat /proc/asound/cards
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
/sbin/lspci -vn  (just the part for the soundcard)
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

Have a look at the settings for alsamixer in Gnomes terminal, or if your using 
KDE, use KDE's Konsole. Type the following command to get all alsamixer 
controls.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Check for controls that are muted (the M key toggles mute/unmute), and push up 
sliders like, Master, PCM, Front, CD, which are the usual ones needed to get 
some sound output.

Best wishes.

Nigel.

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Re: Crackling sound in games, pulseaudio CPU usage high (F10)

2008-12-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 01 December 2008 15:13, NM wrote:
 Couldn't find info about this anywhere, but I have this really annoying
 problem, whereby in games, be they ETQW (full version) or games included
 in the stock Fedora distrib, have very bad sound quality. Lots of
 crackling. The CPU usage of pulseaudio shoots up to 20% (that's on a dual
 core Pentium D).

Do you have the same sound problems when playing an audio cd, or playing music 
files (.ogg, .mp3)?

 I can get normal perf. with ETQW by using pasuspend and forcing output to
 hw:0, but there's got to be a better solution.

If it is Pulseaudio causing the problem, and you don't use it for anything 
specific, you could just disable it by removing the package 
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. If you are using KDE like me, this will also remove 
the package kde-settings-pulseaudio. By doing this your audio apps will 
revert to using Alsa directly. If any of the games you play use SDL, you will 
need to add the following line to /home/user/.bashrc , which will remove 
the hack that SDL programs need to use Pulseaudio.

unset SDL_AUDIODRIVER



 This is my sound card:

 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
 Controller (rev 02)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# grep -i hda dmesg
 HDA Intel :00:1b.0: PCI INT A - GSI 22 (level, low) - IRQ 22
 HDA Intel :00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
 hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3021: autoconfig: line_outs=4
 (0x14/0x15/0x16/0x17/0x0)
 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3025:speaker_outs=0
 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3029:hp_outs=1 (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3030:mono: mono_out=0x0
 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3038:inputs: mic=0x18, fmic=0x19,
 line=0x1a, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0

What is the make and model of your Laptop/PC ?

Can you post the output from the following commands.

cat /proc/asound/version
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
/sbin/lspci -vn (just the bit for the soundcard)

Did the sound just work ok post install of F10, or did you have to set model 
options for snd-hda-intel?

There are a whole bunch of model options for the ALC883 codec, some of which 
may give you more sliders/controls in alsamixer, when run as user in a 
terminal. To see all the controls when pulseaudio is enabled, you will have 
to open alsamixer as below, otherwise you will only see one control for 
pulseaudio.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Crackling sounds can be a problem to resolve. I know that pulseaudio can be 
responsible for low volume output, and if you are having to push the volume 
up to 100% to get decent sound levels to your speakers, it could be that the 
card is being pushed beyong it's capabilities. It's interesting that when you 
don't use pulseaudio, the sound is ok.

I'll give you a list of model options when you post back, but I need to know 
the alsa driver version, that's on F10 first.

All the best.

Nigel.




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Re: Crackling sound in games, pulseaudio CPU usage high (F10)

2008-12-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 01 December 2008 19:19, NM wrote:
 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:04:14 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
  Do you have the same sound problems when playing an audio cd, or playing
  music files (.ogg, .mp3)?

 Nope, no such problem.

  If it is Pulseaudio causing the problem, and you don't use it for
  anything specific, you could just disable it by removing the package
  alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. If you are using KDE like me, this will also
  remove the package kde-settings-pulseaudio. By doing this your audio
  apps will revert to using Alsa directly. If any of the games you play
  use SDL, you will need to add the following line to /home/user/.bashrc
  , which will remove the hack that SDL programs need to use Pulseaudio.
 
  unset SDL_AUDIODRIVER

 Thanks for the tip.

  This is my sound card:
 
  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
  Controller (rev 02)
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# grep -i hda dmesg
  HDA Intel :00:1b.0: PCI INT A - GSI 22 (level, low) - IRQ 22 HDA
  Intel :00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64 hda_codec: Unknown
  model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS... ALSA
  sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3021: autoconfig: line_outs=4
  (0x14/0x15/0x16/0x17/0x0)
  ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3025:speaker_outs=0
  (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
  ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3029:hp_outs=1
  (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3030:mono:
  mono_out=0x0 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3038:inputs: mic=0x18,
  fmic=0x19, line=0x1a, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
 
  What is the make and model of your Laptop/PC ?

 It's home-made with an Asus motherboard. I'll post the details when I get
 back home.

  Can you post the output from the following commands.
 
  cat /proc/asound/version

 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.

  grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* /sbin/lspci -vn (just
  the bit for the soundcard)

 Codec: Realtek ALC883

 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:293e (rev 02)
  Subsystem: 1043:8277
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
  Memory at f9ff8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
  Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
 Count=1/1 Enable-
  Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI
 00
  Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
  Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link ?
  Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
  Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

  Did the sound just work ok post install of F10, or did you have to set
  model options for snd-hda-intel?

 Didn't set anything.

 Sounds works ok without PA (used to run under Ubuntu w/o PA)

  There are a whole bunch of model options for the ALC883 codec, some of
  which may give you more sliders/controls in alsamixer, when run as user
  in a terminal. To see all the controls when pulseaudio is enabled, you
  will have to open alsamixer as below, otherwise you will only see one
  control for pulseaudio.
 
  alsamixer -D hw:0
 
  Crackling sounds can be a problem to resolve. I know that pulseaudio can
  be responsible for low volume output, and if you are having to push the
  volume up to 100% to get decent sound levels to your speakers, it could
  be that the card is being pushed beyong it's capabilities. It's
  interesting that when you don't use pulseaudio, the sound is ok.
 
  I'll give you a list of model options when you post back, but I need to
  know the alsa driver version, that's on F10 first.
 
  All the best.
 
  Nigel.

 Thanks for your help.

 One other problem I notice with PA is that sometimes the sound sounds
 saturated, as if it was compressed up and then scaled back down. I have
 this problem after playing around with various volume settings (either pa-
 volume or alsamixer etc)

 The main problem here is the CPU usage, which is strange. Any idea what
 causes this?

No Idea on the CPU useage, but I havn't psyched myself up yet to download the 
iso's for F10 on dialup, so don't have it installed yet to try to recreate 
your problem. 6 cd iso's for F9 was bad enough, and I'm still recovering from 
14/15 days of downloading them on dialup, with frequent pausing of Kget, so 
as to retrieve mail, etc.

Nigel.

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Re: Audio vs ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo

2008-11-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 29 November 2008 06:46, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;

 Up2date reinstall of the latest FU8 respin.

 The various audio devices found by an lspci -vv on this mobo are:
 ==
 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev
 a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81f6
 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
 ==
 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
 Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1001
 Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy
 Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1
 ===
 03:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device aa10
 Subsystem: Diamond Multimedia Systems Unknown device aa10

 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
 ===

 And there is also a pcHDTV-3000 which has a connexant audio but its
 obviously a mic level output, and since tvtime doesn't work on the video
 card associated with the last device listed above, the point is moot till
 it does work.

 The first device above I have not been able to get a peep out of, so I've
 made the second one, the Audigy2, the default.  And I have NDI where to
 plug anything that looks like audio into that ATI based HD-2400-Pro video
 card, but lspci says its there.

 Testing the sound for the audigy2 in system-config-soundcard works, but
 places like utube are silent.  As is cnn et all since the last reboot.

 2 questions:

 do we have a 'vu meter' that can be switched to monitor the various audio
 inputs?

 And when I had to reinstall, I see that pulseaudio was installed, and a now
 frozen 'lsof|grep audio' returns this, but has not returned a prompt.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards]# lsof |grep audio
 pulseaudi  3473  root  txt   REG8,357972
 53801556 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
 artsd  3528  root  mem   REG8,396380
 53795593 /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2.4
 artsd  3528  root  mem   REG8,3   171580
 5603705 /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0.0.2

 Is this yet another case where I need to remove as much PA as I can in
 order to get working sound again, or is there a configurator for this PITA
 that might be able to fix this?  The silence here is deafening.

 Thanks.

 --
 Cheers, Gene

Hi there Gene.

I think I'd disable Pulseaudio temporarily, and you can do that by just 
removing the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. If your using KDE, removing 
that package will also remove the kde-settings-pulseaudio package. You can 
always reinstall them later, but IIRC Pulseaudio has problems with multiple 
cards, but I may be wrong there.

Can you post the output from a few commands, as below.

cat /proc/asound/cards
cat /proc/asound/version
grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd


If you leave Pulseaudio enabled, alsamixer only shows a single control, but 
you can get to the controls for the individual cards (presuming they all show 
up in /proc/asound/cards), by opening alsamixer on the CLI, as below.

alsamixer -D hw:0(that's for card0)
alsamixer -D hw:1(for card1, and so on)

You may need to set a model option for the onboard card in /etc/modprobe.conf, 
to get the necessary mixer controls to show up in alsamixer, or sometimes a 
model option is necessary just to get the card detected. Post back the stuff 
requested above first, as we need to know the codec that the hda intel card 
uses, so as to know which model options to try.

My Asus M2N-X Plus board has sound working out of the box, but to get a CD 
slider showing in alsamixer, I have to set a model option as below.
options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-dig  (just an example)

I do have Fedora 8 on the machine with this mobo.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Re: Audio vs ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo

2008-11-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 29 November 2008 17:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 29 November 2008, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Saturday 29 November 2008 06:46, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings;
 
  Up2date reinstall of the latest FU8 respin.
 
  The various audio devices found by an lspci -vv on this mobo are:
  ==
  00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio
  (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81f6
  Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
  Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
  ==
  01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
  Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1001
  Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy
  Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1
  ===
  03:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device aa10
  Subsystem: Diamond Multimedia Systems Unknown device aa10
 
  Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
  Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
  ===
 
  And there is also a pcHDTV-3000 which has a connexant audio but its
  obviously a mic level output, and since tvtime doesn't work on the video
  card associated with the last device listed above, the point is moot
  till it does work.
 
  The first device above I have not been able to get a peep out of, so
  I've made the second one, the Audigy2, the default.  And I have NDI
  where to plug anything that looks like audio into that ATI based
  HD-2400-Pro video card, but lspci says its there.
 
  Testing the sound for the audigy2 in system-config-soundcard works, but
  places like utube are silent.  As is cnn et all since the last reboot.
 
  2 questions:
 
  do we have a 'vu meter' that can be switched to monitor the various
  audio inputs?
 
  And when I had to reinstall, I see that pulseaudio was installed, and a
  now frozen 'lsof|grep audio' returns this, but has not returned a
  prompt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards]# lsof |grep audio
  pulseaudi  3473  root  txt   REG8,357972
  53801556 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
  artsd  3528  root  mem   REG8,396380
  53795593 /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2.4
  artsd  3528  root  mem   REG8,3   171580
  5603705 /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0.0.2
 
  Is this yet another case where I need to remove as much PA as I can in
  order to get working sound again, or is there a configurator for this
  PITA that might be able to fix this?  The silence here is deafening.
 
  Thanks.
 
  --
  Cheers, Gene
 
 Hi there Gene.
 
 I think I'd disable Pulseaudio temporarily, and you can do that by just
 removing the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.

 Now done, but not done an x restart yet.  Now I have, and I can now hear
 cnn.com's video's.

Well that's one problem resolved. Any idea which soundcard it is playing 
through? 

 If your using KDE, removing
 that package will also remove the kde-settings-pulseaudio package. You can
 always reinstall them later, but IIRC Pulseaudio has problems with
  multiple cards, but I may be wrong there.

 I believe you are correct at this point.

 Can you post the output from a few commands, as below.
 
 cat /proc/asound/cards

  0 [Audigy2]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 Value [SB0400]
   Audigy 2 Value [SB0400] (rev.0, serial:0x10011102) at
 0xac00, irq 17
  1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
   HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21
  2 [HDMI   ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
   HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfddfc000 irq 16

 cat /proc/asound/version

 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18rc3.

F8 comes with alsa driver 1.0.16, and as you have 1.0.18rc3, you obviously 
have no problems in upgrading the alsa driver. It may be worth upgrading to 
the latest snapshot of the alsa driver. Link below.
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/

 grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec*

 /proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: Analog Devices AD1988B
The codec above is for the onboard soundcard
 /proc/asound/card2/codec#0:Codec: ATI ATI R6xx HDMI
The one above appears to be something to do with a sound component on the 
onboard graphics card, that also uses snd-hda-intel, and is to do with sound 
on HDMI.

 /sbin/lsmod | grep snd

 snd_emu10k1_synth   7168  0
 snd_emux_synth 32512  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_seq_virmidi 6272  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_seq_midi_emul   6784  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_emu10k1   134560  2 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_rawmidi19968  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
 snd_ac97_codec 97312  1 snd_emu10k1
 ac97_bus2432  1 snd_ac97_codec
 snd_hda_intel 399664  2
 snd_seq_dummy   3588  0
 snd_seq_oss29824  0
 snd_seq_midi_event  7040  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
 snd_seq47664  8
 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,
snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss37888  0
 snd_mixer_oss  14720  1 snd_pcm_oss

Re: has K3B been abandoned?

2008-11-26 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 20:15, dexter wrote:
 On Wed November 26 2008 15:59:49 Fred Silsbee wrote:
  after downloading F10 for 9.5 hours,

 Downloading on release day is for n00bs, I learnt this some time back!
 take it some days before or after.

 ...dex

9.5 hours is peanuts. Try it on dialup. Downloading my 6 cd iso's for F9 took 
between 12, and 14 days. You need a lot of patience when on dialup.

I'm not even considering F10 at the moment. I'll have to psyche myself up once 
again, before going for the F10 iso downloads.

Regarding burning. I've no experience with burning to dvd media, but have read 
that Plextor optical drives, expensive as they are, do have problems.

I always burn to cd at the lowest speed (I did have problems burning at higher 
speeds with K3b), and havn't had any failures when burning at the lowest burn 
speeds.

You mention that you have 2 burners, the Plextor one, and the Sony one, and 
when you had the dvd media in the Sony one, K3b couldn't find the media. 
That's probably no surprise, as K3b's config/preferences is no doubt set to 
look for media in the block device which is set for the Plextor optical 
drive.

Saying that though, looking at K3b's settings  configure K3b  Devices. It 
says here.

quote
K3b tries to detect all your devices properly. You can add devices that have 
not been detected, and change the block values by clicking in the list. If 
K3b is unable to detect your drive, you need to modify their permissions to 
give K3b write access to all devices.
 end quote

Looking at the Devices page on this machine which only has one optical drive, 
the line, System device name says /dev/scd0 (4.0.0).

There is an Add Device button on the devices page. I'd suggest using that, 
and entering /dev/scd1, which may well pick up your Sony optical drive.

Then (perhaps after a reboot) see if K3b will detect dvd media in your Sony 
optical drive.

Just some thoughts, and only trying to help.

Nigel.



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Re: F8 - xine-lib-extras fails with missing dependency

2008-11-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 20:47, Aldo Foot wrote:
 I'm trying to install xine-lib-extras, but I get an error.

 Error: Missing Dependency: libcucul.so.0 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libcaca.so.0 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libdirect-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libfusion-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.0.so.0 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libaa.so.1 is needed by package
 xine-lib-extras-1.1.15-1.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)

 I have recently updated my F8 box, so I know my fedora repository
 config is fine.
 I also have the rpmfusion repositories configured.
 Is this a case of a repository just not having the required
 dependencies for xine-lib-extras?

 comments?
 ~af

That's a bit odd. I've just installed xine-lib-extras on F8, at the same time 
that I installed Xine, because of some problem where Kaffeine couldn't find 
the dvd drive, and xine-lib-extras installed ok, without any problems.

I see that I have libcaca installed, and, rpm -q -l libcaca shows th following 
output.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]$ ssh 192.168.0.190
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Last login: Sun Nov 16 20:37:39 2008 from 192.168.0.230
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -q -l libcaca
/usr/lib/libcaca.so.0
/usr/lib/libcaca.so.0.99.0
/usr/lib/libcucul.so.0
/usr/lib/libcucul.so.0.99.0
/usr/share/doc/libcaca-0.99
/usr/share/doc/libcaca-0.99/COPYING
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

That seems to handle 2 of the missing deps, but have no idea which lib/s are 
missing to provide the others, as I don't see any of them on synaptic.

Nigel.




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Re: activating ethernet

2008-11-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 15 November 2008 17:59, Jack Monflower wrote:
 hello,
 i want to use a fedora box as a server and remove at some point the
 monitor. for that, i need to be able to reboot it so it will start
 everything smoothly.
 however, i noticed that currently whenever i turn on the computer, i have
 to go to the administration - network and specifically Activate the
 network ethernet device.
 in addition, i have to restart httpd, mysqld and other servers which i want
 to be started automatically.
 i know the latter i can do in /etc/init.d/rc.local or something like
 that... but how can i make sure that the ethernet gets activated
 automatically? this is necessary, because otherwise i cannot ssh to the
 computer and need a console access.

 thanks

I've seen problems like this when using networkmanager (the default), which 
appears to be started when a user logs in, and results in other programs, 
which need access to the Internet pre login, not being able to find a 
connection.

On my Fedora 8 install, I opened the services GUI, and stopped 
NetworkManager, and scrolled down a bit, and started the network service. 
The network service is started pre login, and may resolve your problem.

This may be worth a look.

Just a suggestion.

Nigel.

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 09 November 2008 17:10, Gilboa Davara wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
   Don't get the X-Fi.
  
   Long story short:
   Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
   specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.
 
  Just in case you missed it, hell has frozen over and Creative finally
  appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
  licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
  will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.
 
  http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblast
 erthread.id=132288
 
 
  Regards,
   Jim H

 ... They must have heard my rant :)

 - Gilboa

Takashi Iwai, alsa developer, has been working on the driver for X-Fi cards 
for well over 2 weeks now, and with much success in getting these cards 
working. He doesn't have the X-Fi cards, but has been working with folks that 
do have them, and have been acting as testers for various patches that 
Takashi has suggested as trials for resolving problems with the card. All in 
all there has been much success in getting the X-Fi cards to work.

The thread on the alsa development list started on 2008-10-11 (probably before 
that). See link below to access the alsa development archives.

  http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

You have to wonder if Creative folks have been viewing the posts to the 
alsa-devel list, and because of what they've seen there, have decided to 
release the driver, along with the source code.

Just some observations.

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No info when mouse over files/dir's with Konqueror on F9

2008-11-07 Thread Nigel Henry
I've already asked this here, and on the KDE list, but with no replies.

On KDE 3.5.9, when hovering the mouse over a file, or directory in Konqueror's 
file manager, I get a popup showing info for the file/dir, and at the same 
time, a line at the bottom of Konquerors window showing the same info.

For example. If the file/dir is a link, it shows where it's pointing to.

With F9, I have to right click, and access the properties to get this info, 
which if you're checking out the links on multiple files, like I am doing in 
trying to resolve a Java problem, it can be very time consuming.

is this supposed to work on F9 KDE4, as it did on KDE3?

A simple yes or no will do.

Nigel.



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Re: Where is modprobeconf

2008-11-03 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 03 November 2008 14:51, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 I just noticed there is no modprobe.conf in f9. What takes its place?

I just went ahead and created the file, as I needed to set some options for my 
sound card.

Nigel.

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Re: control-center??

2008-11-03 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 03 November 2008 16:43, Beartooth wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:19:52 +1030, Tim wrote:
  []

  When faced with that sort of question, do an rpm -ql query on the
  package, you can see a list of what it contains.  Doing a grep for bin
  on the output should narrow things down to the executable parts (since
  they'll usually have bin somewhere in the filepath).
 
  e.g. rpm -ql control-center | grep bin

  Well, that gets it all right; many thanks!

  It seems strange there's no icon; maybe the time has come for me
 to try to make one 

I found some icons for the Gnome control center in /usr/share/icons/gnome. 
Under scalable/categories, and 32x32/categories. There may be smaller ones, 
but my eyes arn't too good.

Nigel.

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Re: FC9 login without password

2008-11-02 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 02 November 2008 08:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All,

 Mine is FC9...
 So, how to config the user profile, then the user login without password
 ( disable password ) ?

 Thanks !

 Edward.

Hi Edward. I'm not sure what your looking for here. If it's just to autologin 
a user, there are are a few lines you can add to /etc/gdm/custom.conf. See 
below.

# Lines below added by djmons

[daemon]
# Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
# in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=djmons

The lines above will enable you to autologin one user. Just change djmons to 
your user name. See below if you have more than one user setup, and want the 
option to login as a different user. The autologin of the designated user 
will be delayed, thus giving you the chance to stop the autologin, and select 
a different user to login as.

# Timed login. usefull for kiosks. Log in a certain user after a certain 
# amount of time
TimedLoginEnable=false
TimedLogin=djmons
TimedLoginDelay=30

Ok. Assuming you have mutliple users available, but only have one set for 
autologin. Obviously it would be good to see the GDM greeter, and have the 
chance to stop the autologin, and choose another user.

First change  theAutomaticLoginEnable=true line to false.

Then change the TimedLoginEnable=false line to true

Obviously change tthe user name on TimedLogin=djmons to your user name.

The login delay is up to you.

I've just tried all this on F9, and it works as above.

If you want my /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file from my FC2 install please ask, and 
I'll send it offlist directly to you.

All the best.

Nigel. 







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Re: why no ethX assigned to 3Com card.

2008-11-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 01 November 2008 17:17, sean darcy wrote:
 On F9, I have 3 interface cards:

 lspci | grep Eth
 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c595 100BaseTX [Vortex]
 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

 The kernel assigns both the Realtek cards a device:

 dmesg | grep Real
 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc814000, 00:48:54:8b:ab:29, IRQ 11
 eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc8b8000, 00:60:67:70:cc:95, IRQ 11

 but not the 3Com card:

 dmesg | grep eth

 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc814000, 00:48:54:8b:ab:29, IRQ 11
 eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139B'
 eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc8b8000, 00:60:67:70:cc:95, IRQ 11
 eth1:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139A'
 eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1
 eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x43E1
 eth0: no IPv6 routers present
 eth1: no IPv6 routers present

 though the kernel does see it:

 dmesg | grep -B  2 3Com
 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:0d.0
 3c59x: Donald Becker and others.
 :00:0d.0: 3Com PCI 3c595 Vortex 100baseTx at 0001e800.

 It's hard to configure with a device name (:

 sean

Hi Sean. I'm no network guru, but as nobodies posted back yet...

I see the 3c59x driver 
in /lib/modules/2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686/kernel/drivers/net. Unless it's broken, 
and won't load.

Does /sbin/lsmod show it as a loaded module?

Looking in /etc/modprobe.conf, you should see alias lines for the 2 realtek 
cards. Presuming there is no alias line for the 3c59x, you could simply add a 
line for it as below.

I take the comment above back, as having just looked in /etc/modprobe.conf on 
my F9 install, all that is there are lines related to my soundcard, that I 
have set, although on earlier versions of Fedora the alias line was there for 
my 8139too module.

That aside, you could still add an alias line for the 3c59x module, and reboot 
after adding it. See below.

alias eth2 3c59x

Interesting that the machine I have FC2 installed on has a 3com card using the 
same driver.

Just some suggestions.

Nigel.

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F9. Mouse over files fails to display file info with Konqueror

2008-10-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On previous Fedora versions, and on other distros using KDE3, and Konqueror, 
hovering the mouse over a file, or directory, would bring up a little popup, 
and at the same time, the same info as on the popup would be shown on the 
bottom bar of Konquerors window.

For example. At the moment I'm trying to resolve a Java problem, and there are 
many directories, and files which are symlinks. The only way I can see where 
the link is pointing to on F9, is to right click on the file/dir, and look in 
the properties. Obviously this involves a lot of clicking, when you just want 
to see where several directories symlinks are pointing to.

Is there anything I can configure on F9 to get the mouse over file/dir 
behaviour, as is on KDE3.5's Konqueror?

Thanks for any help with this annoying problem.

Nigel.

btw. What is the little green LED type thingy at the bottom of Konquerors 
window? It doesn't respond to the mouse.

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Re: Spontaneous pulseaudio death

2008-10-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 25 October 2008 17:46, Neal Becker wrote:
 Neal Becker wrote:
  Rick Stevens wrote:
  Hi gang.  I've recently been having spontaneous pulseaudio daemon deaths
  occuring.  The daemon just quits.  There is a trace of it in
  /var/log/messages:
 
  Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No
  such file or directory
  Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: pstream.c: Failed to import
  memory block.
 
  Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this.  It may be related to
  a vpnc issue as it seems to happen after I've had to do a couple of
  vpnc...vpnc-disconnect cycles, but I can't confirm that as yet.
 
  Oh, yeah, this is a fully updated F8 machine with pulseaudio 0.9.8 and
  vpnc 0.5.1.  Yes, I know F8 is old, but I need Xen for a couple of
  things and F9's dom0 for Xen is a no-go (says so in the release notes
  and confirmed by actual attempts to use it).
  --
 
  PA keeps dying here all the time.  I find I have to logout/login to fix
  it.  No idea what causes it, and no errors logged that I've noticed. 
  It's VERY annoying.  This if fedora F9 with all updates.

 Sorry, it seems this is not my problem.  pulseaudio is still alive, but I
 get no sound.   If I kill and restart pulseaudio, it complains that the
 device is in use.  If I logout/login, the sound is fixed.  This happens
 every day after I'm logged in for a while, but I still have no idea what
 triggers it.

If there is no particular reason why you need to use Pulseaudio, why not 
simply disable it, by removing the package alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. By doing 
this your sound apps will now use Alsa directly as default, and Pulseaudio 
will no longer enter the equation.

Just a suggestion.

Nigel.

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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-19 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 19 October 2008 06:12, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Dan Thurman wrote:
  plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate
  to load every time.
 
  I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address:
  '12.x.x.x'

 NoScript is not going to help you get Java working.  g should have been
 more clear about that. I would recommend uninstalling it at least until
 you solve your original problem.

 As Nigel noted, you will probably have to install Sun Java in order to
 use your site.  There are many tutorials specifically about this, such
 as
 http://www.ilovetux.com/2008/05/fedora-9-sun-java-on-fedora-9-install.html
 .

 Matt Flaschen

I had already installed Opera on F9, and surprise, surprise, the applet loads 
ok for that site, using the default java installed on F9.

I had already changed the line in Iceweasel's about:config, which identifies 
the browser as Iceweasel/3.0.1 to Firefox/3.0.2, as I had problems with an 
Internet radio streaming site, which wouldn't stream the radio unless the 
browser identity was Firefox, so that doesn't appear to be why Iceweasel 
can't initiate the applet.

Just a couple of observations.

Nigel.

btw, the opera site didn't show Opera for F9, but the one for FC6, FC7, and F8 
works.

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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 18 October 2008 20:14, Dan Thurman wrote:
 I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
 site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
 to use it?

 I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that
 is not the problem.

 Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps
 I actually do not have Java installed on F9?  If so, what
 steps do I need to take in order to make it work?

 Thanks!
 Dan

Hi Dan. Which site are you trying to access? I have found that the Java 
installed on some distros doesn't work with some websites, and more than once 
have had to install the JRE from Sun Microsystems. Having done that, and set 
it up, accessing sites that use Java are no longer a problem.

Please post the URL for the site you're having problems with, and I'll try it 
on F9, which uses Iced Tea, and also on my FC2 install which has a genuine, 
although old version of the JRE from Sun Microsystems installed on it.

All the best.

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Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 18 October 2008 22:38, Dan Thurman wrote:
 Dan Thurman wrote:
  I visited a java-based website and wondering why this
  site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order
  to use it?
 
  I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that
  is not the problem.
 
  Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps
  I actually do not have Java installed on F9?  If so, what
  steps do I need to take in order to make it work?
 
  Thanks!
  Dan

 Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the
 dust) ;)

 I DID search but could not figure it out.

 Now, back to what some have asked:

 1) Try this site: http://www.relaycall.com (it's for deaf people
 who are trying to reach non-deaf people over the phone) and
 it complains (for me) :
 Error - You must enable Java to use ATT Relay Services.

 2) about:plugins (Long list!)

 Note: I do have all of GCJ/Iced-Tea modules (or so it seems)
 File name: gcjwebplugin.so
 The GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) executes Java applets.
 See below for all the Yes for specifics.


 GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) 1.2

 File name: gcjwebplugin.so
 The GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) executes Java applets.

 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
 application/x-java-vm IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.5 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;version=1.6 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_00 IcedTea class,jar
 Yes
 application/x-java-bean IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.5 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;version=1.6 IcedTea class,jar Yes
 application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.6.0_00 IcedTea class,jar
 Yes
 NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.1.0

 File name: npwrapper.so
 nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in
 particular for linux/i386 plugins.
 This is beta software available under the terms of the GNU General
 Public License.

 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
 unknown/mime-type Do not open none Yes
 iTunes Application Detector

 File name: librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
 This plug-in detects the presence of iTunes when opening iTunes
 Store URLs in a web page with Firefox.

 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
 application/itunes-plugin Yes
 

 Thanks!
 Dan

Hi Dan. According to Firefox on F9 using GCJ aka Iced Tea, when accessing the 
site above, I get a bit of stuff for att at the top of the page, but no 
applet. At the bottom of the Firefox window it says: Start: applet not 
initialized.

By contrast, Firefox on my FC2 install, with Sun's JRE installed, runs the 
applet with no problemo.

All I can suggest is downloading, and installing the JRE from Sun, if you want 
to use this site. See below.

More direct link for Java for Linux (JRE only)
 http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp

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Re: Auto Log in screen

2008-10-13 Thread Nigel Henry
Apologies if this post is received twice. Big delays on the list receiving it 
again.

On Monday 13 October 2008 16:40, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:56 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
  Steve Friis wrote:
   In older versions of Fedora, there is a GDM tool that lets you set up
   so that when the computer starts and gets to the log on screen it
   automatically chooses the user, puts in the password and then runs.
  
   The problem is, GDM-setup no longer is there. Was this replaced with
   something else? Was this left off of Fedora 9 for a reason?
 
  Hi
 
  I post the same question, and the answer :
  edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
 
  however AutomaticLogin did not work properly as released, your system
  will need to be 'yum updated' for it to work properly.
 
  Add the section in the file :
 
  [daemon]
  AutomaticLoginEnable=true
  AutomaticLogin=your_username
 
  If you can't yum update the system there is a workaround via a timed
  login :
 
  [daemon]
  TimedLoginEnable=true
  TimedLogin=your_username
  TimedLoginDelay=0

 GDM/Gnome changed it up some and it doesn't work like it used it, which
 I believe was F8 and below.  F9 goes along with a new setup and new
 paramaters that can be used.  Below is the URL that describes what can
 be used now, in which auto logon is no longer used, but you can still
 use timed logins as stated above.

 http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration


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The link above is interesting, but I can confirm that Autologin still works 
with F9, by adding the following lines that I borrowed 
from /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf on my FC2 install. Before suggesting this to Steve 
Friis I rebooted F9, and was auto logged in to KDE. (never used autologin 
before)

[daemon]
# Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
# in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=djmons

Steve replied (unfortunately sending the reply by way of the latest digest 
he'd received, so the subject is the digest one), saying that those lines 
work fine on his laptop, and was about to try it on his server, where he 
needs autologin to work.

Odd that the link above mentions nothing about autologin, but have confirmed 
for myself that the above lines added to /etc/gdm/custom.conf on F9 still 
work for autologin.

Just an observation.

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Re: Auto Log in screen

2008-10-13 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 13 October 2008 16:40, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 12:56 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
  Steve Friis wrote:
   In older versions of Fedora, there is a GDM tool that lets you set up
   so that when the computer starts and gets to the log on screen it
   automatically chooses the user, puts in the password and then runs.
  
   The problem is, GDM-setup no longer is there. Was this replaced with
   something else? Was this left off of Fedora 9 for a reason?
 
  Hi
 
  I post the same question, and the answer :
  edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
 
  however AutomaticLogin did not work properly as released, your system
  will need to be 'yum updated' for it to work properly.
 
  Add the section in the file :
 
  [daemon]
  AutomaticLoginEnable=true
  AutomaticLogin=your_username
 
  If you can't yum update the system there is a workaround via a timed
  login :
 
  [daemon]
  TimedLoginEnable=true
  TimedLogin=your_username
  TimedLoginDelay=0

 GDM/Gnome changed it up some and it doesn't work like it used it, which
 I believe was F8 and below.  F9 goes along with a new setup and new
 paramaters that can be used.  Below is the URL that describes what can
 be used now, in which auto logon is no longer used, but you can still
 use timed logins as stated above.

 http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration


 --
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The link above is interesting, but I can confirm that Autologin still works 
with F9, by adding the following lines that I borrowed 
from /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf on my FC2 install. Before suggesting this to Steve 
Friis I rebooted F9, and was auto logged in to KDE. (never used autologin 
before)

[daemon]
# Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
# in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=djmons

Steve replied (unfortunately sending the reply by way of the latest digest 
he'd received, so the subject is the digest one), saying that those lines 
work fine on his laptop, and was about to try it on his server, where he 
needs autologin to work.

Odd that the link above mentions nothing about autologin, but have confirmed 
for myself that the above lines added to /etc/gdm/custom.conf on F9 still 
work for autologin.

Just an observation.

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