F11 - package not signed

2009-05-21 Thread Steve Dowe
Hi,

I installed F11 preview and have been keeping up with system updates - until 
now.  When I do a yum update, I now get:

Package nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed

Has anyone else seen this? Who/how should I contact somebody to see about 
getting this resolved?

Thanks

Steve

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Re: F11 - package not signed

2009-05-21 Thread Steve Dowe

On Thursday 21 May 2009 09:46:37 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00931.html

 Use fedora-test list for any discussions about pre-releases/test up

Thanks - will do. 

Steve
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Ogg Totem kill X

2008-08-12 Thread Steve Dowe

Hi,

I have F9 with Totem and VLC installed.  When I try to watch an ogg 
video from Red Hat's web site in Totem, the screen goes blank and I can 
hear my hard disk head park.  I can't recover X from this - I have to 
hard reset the machine and boot back into the desktop.  When I try the 
same video in VLC, VLC just dies immediately (but at least it doesn't 
bring the system down too).


I've searched for log entries relating to this error, but there seem to 
be none.


So... my question is, does video require DRI to be enabled in X?  I had 
to disable DRI in my xorg.conf because it was making X hang in certain 
situations.  Here's my xorg.conf for reference:


Section ServerLayout
   Identifier Default Layout
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
# keyboard added by rhpxl
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
   OptionXkbModel pc105
   OptionXkbLayout gb
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  Videocard0
   Driver  radeon
   OptionDRI off
EndSection

Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Videocard0
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Any ideas, suggestions, etc appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve

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32 bit Java app on 64 bit Linux

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Dowe

Hi,

I'm trying to run Zend Studio (32 bit) on fedora 9 x84_64, but am coming
across a problem with network access.  Specifically, when Zend starts up
it can perform an update check, but this fails almost immediately with a
useless message (the server could not be contacted).

I suspect that I need a 64-32 bit compatibility library to enable
network access.  Interestingly (annoyingly), a similar issue occurs when
replacing the 64 bit version of firefox with the 32 bit version.  So I
think this is less of a Java issue...

Could anybody point me in the right direction please?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: 32 bit Java app on 64 bit Linux

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Dowe

Andrew Overholt wrote:

Are you running the 32-bit JRE?  Check the output of the following:

$ which java
$ readlink -f `which java`
# alternatives --config java


The JRE actually installs as part of the Zend Studio product and I have 
had it running on 32-bit fedora before  - so I assume 32-bit.  However, 
here's the output:


$ cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudio-5.5.1/jre/bin
$ ./java -showversion
java version 1.5.0_06
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode)

Obviously, given this I guess there's not a lot of point me doing the 
other commands, simply because Zend uses it's own JRE, not Fedora's.


Steve

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Re: 32 bit Java app on 64 bit Linux

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Dowe

Kevin Martin wrote:
 
   Are you sure that it's using it's own java?  Just because it 
installed it doesn't necessarily mean it's using it (one would think so 
but...).  It would be interesting to see what Zend is actually using 
(you may be able to do this in the startup script with a set -x or you 
may need to look at it with strace).


I tried to strace the launcher but it seemed to cause it to hang (I'm 
not a dab hand with strace yet..).


However, I have been looking at this all evening and have discovered 
it's not specifically a Java issue, but rather a 32-bit networking 
problem.  Basically, the 32 bit apps that I have installed (on 64 bit 
Fedora 9) are not able to resolve domain names, but they do still have 
network access.


I installed firefox.i386 and when trying to browse to www.google.com it 
responded with Server not found.  I pinged Google, got the IP address 
and put that straight into the address bar in FF and hey presto, web page.


So I think I've been inadvertently misleading this investigation. Sorry 
about that!


There was a really useful (if old-ish) page that helped inform me on the 
name resolution process in Linux: http://linuxgazette.net/issue50/tag/1.html


In a nutshell, it /appears/ that calls using gethostbyname() are not 
working, but gethostbyaddr() is.  I have no idea how to resolve this (no 
pun intended).  Networking libraries appear to be installed correctly 
(AFAIK) in /lib and /lib64.


Any further thoughts very welcome!

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe

Steve Dowe wrote:

I think I have the answer (below).

...

   Option AccelMethod EXA

Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't 
last that long.  I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows 
window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box).


I'll keep working on it!

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Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe



...

   Option AccelMethod EXA

Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it 
didn't last that long.  I had another hang this morning when moving a 
Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box).


I'll keep working on it!


Same section, but using

Option DRI off

.. seems to have had a positive effect.  Might be in some way related to:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436632

HTH!

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Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe

I have this problem too.

Deron Meranda wrote:

Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... snip
it should have been a completely idle unused system.

Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new
install of F9 (not an upgrade).  All the software is part of the base F9
repo; nothing 3rd party was added.  Everything was auto-detected.
  
Ditto.  I have the most up to date versions of X, etc at the time or 
writing.  Same kernel too (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64).

The Xorg driver chosen for this was:
   /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so

My screen is 1440 x 900 x 24, monitor is  DELL E198WFP
  
Mine's 1680x1050.  Using an HP Compaq 6715b laptop with ATI Radeon 
Express X1250,

from level 3 boot, remove driver, then use 'yum install' to bring your
driver back in and reboot to load it. driver may be fried.



The driver is coming from the package xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
I did an rpm verify on it,
   rpm -V -v xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
and that said all the files were intact and correct.
  

Again, same.  My drivers seem to be present and correct.
  

kde, gnome? have you tried any minimal desktops? something may, tho i
would doubt, be different in how you bring up x.



Haven't tried other desktops other than Gnome, but I have disabled
all the fancy effects, etc.

  

I can confirm this occurs in both KDE and GNOME on my system.

The system runs perfectly fine; until that magic moment when the
Xorg process runs away.  Or is that the kernel that is running away?
I wish I knew how to debug the kernel better; because it just doesn't
appear to be a user-space problem.
  
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging 
(resizing) a window.  X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy and 
the whole desktop is unresponsive.  Being SSH'd in from another machine, 
I could see Xorg at 99-100% CPU.   This never seems to happen when 
dragging a whole window, just when I try to resize one.  I haven't 
noticed this happening at all by using a scroll bar (but I'm not saying 
this fault hasn't been triggered that way too..).  The only way I can 
recover is a hard reboot - holding down the power button.  Issuing init 
6 or reboot makes no difference - it just hangs, which makes me think 
this is kernel- rather than X-related..  :-(


I'm afraid I cannot offer the same diagnostics as Deron without a little 
instruction, but I'd like to help to resolve this.. ;-)


FWIW, I'm downloading the debug flavour of the current kernel.  I'm 
going to reboot into that and see if I can get more output in the log(s)...


Is it possible that the Radeon driver can be triggering a bug in the 
kernel (which hangs X)?


All the best,
Steve


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Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe


The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging 
(resizing) a window.  X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy 
I should also have added that the  mouse cursor image sticks to the 
diagonal arrow - it doesn't become the normal arrow/pointer again.


I have just booted up in the debug kernel and managed to re-hang X in no 
time at all, using the method described above... :-/


The only error message I can find, both in dmesg and messages, is this:

 kernel: ACPI Error (tbfadt-0453): 32/64X address mismatch in 
Pm2ControlBlock: [8800] [8100], using 64X [20070126]


The timestamp of this log entry roughly corresponds to the occurrence of 
the hang.  But whether this has any bearing on the problem, I cannot 
say.  I would guess that ACPI has some interaction with mouse events 
through X (e.g. polling), but judging by the position of this log entry, 
it appears to be during boot time.


Any advice relating to debugging gratefully received...

Steve

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Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
 bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon 
X1200 Series]

02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b6)
02:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller 
(rev 02)
10:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M 
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g 
(rev 02)


# grep -i chipset /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets:
(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon X1200 (ChipID = 0x791f)



On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Steve Dowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging
(resizing) a window.  X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy
  


Although mine happens (usually) when I'm doing vertical scrolling,
they may be related.  In both cases there is usually a lot of bitmap
moving occurring, which may be a bitblit operation of some sort,
possibly involving 2D acceleration.

  


This is interesting.  It seems, on my system, somewhat related to the 
speed at which I drag my mouse.  If I drag nice and slowly when resizing 
a window, I (usually, I think) get away with it.  If I drag hastily, it 
hangs.  I was going to suggest some kind of timing issue, so it seems we 
might be homing in on something here.




I should also have added that the  mouse cursor image sticks to the
diagonal arrow - it doesn't become the normal arrow/pointer again.



This is probably to be expected.  I believe that the cursor/pointer
movement is hardware assisted; which means that it runs within
interrupt code and not in the main Xorg event loop.  Changing the
pointer graphic though must be done outside interrupts; and the Xorg
process appears to be stuck.

See if you see what I do:

$ grep -i cursor /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor 0 (scanline 1202)
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor 1 (scanline 1204)

  


I get this:

# grep -i cursor /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor 0 (scanline 1602)
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor 1 (scanline 1604)

Presumably this is influenced by the display dimensions and refresh rate?


I have just booted up in the debug kernel and managed to re-hang X in no
time at all, using the method described above... :-/



Hmmm. I should try that too.

  


Didn't help much when I did it..  :-D

I wonder if there are kernel flags set by the bootloader which can 
influence debugging level?


  

The only error message I can find, both in dmesg and messages, is this:

 kernel: ACPI Error (tbfadt-0453): 32/64X address mismatch in
Pm2ControlBlock: [8800] [8100], using 64X [20070126]



I don't know for sure, but this seems like a problem that would
only occur on a 64-bit system.  I only have a 32-bit system.

I don't know if this would be related to your Xorg hanging, but I
would have to guess that such an error would cause a process
(or the kernel) to be completely aborted/panic'dnot get
stuck in a 100% cpu loop.

  


Fair enough.  I suppose also that as this error was detected and 
presumably correctly identified, it probably has a workaround in place.


Let's consider that item eliminated for now, then.


One thing we could try, is to pass options to the ATI driver
to disable certain features (perhaps like certain forms of
acceleration??).  You can do a man radeon to see the
options available.  Those would supposedly go into your
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file.   I don't have any good suggestions
on what to try though; and it's tedious to do the trial and
error thing.

  


man radeon - excellent intro doc to the driver.  The first two options 
are of primary interest to me:


 Option SWcursor boolean
 Selects software cursor.  The default is off.

  Option NoAccel boolean
 Enables or disables all hardware acceleration.
 The default is to enable hardware acceleration.

I'm going to try with both of these options enabled in xorg.conf and see 
if I can hang the machine again.  If so, perhaps we should look at the 
kernel.


Will get back to you.


Any kernel-savy people have any ideas of how to collect
more information about this?
  


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Re: How long for updates to appear?

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Dowe

Brian Morrison wrote:

Steve Dowe wrote:


Is it usual for a fixed version to take about a month to upload?  Or am
I (more likely) missing something? :)



You need to have a look in updates-testing before it arrives in updates.
If it isn't there then it will not appear in updates.

It does often take some time for updates to be released, they sometimes
get overtaken by events.


Thanks for clarifying that.  The package in question doesn't appear to 
be in either yet, so I'll hang tight.


Best regards,
Steve

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How long for updates to appear?

2008-06-05 Thread Steve Dowe

Hi,

I have recently been experiencing crashing in OpenOffice wrier, which 
prompted me to search bugzilla.redhat.com.  I found what I think is the 
bug responsible: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445318


The last developer comment (submitted 7 May 2008) is fix for that 
checked in, will be in = 2.4.0-12.9.  As this was a month ago, I 
thought it should probably have been released by now.  But it doesn't 
appear to be available (on 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/9/x86_64/).


Is it usual for a fixed version to take about a month to upload?  Or am 
I (more likely) missing something? :)


Thanks,
Steve

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