Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 21:14:40 -0500, Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 09:55:00 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or are you indicating you _have_ gotten anaconda to use an additional repository that was on a local hard drive or NFS? I did a URL install about two weeks ago and was able to add Updates-Testing as an additional repository. Both the Everything and Updates-Testing repositories were on a local http server. I didn't get either from local media (CD, DVD nor hard drive). I realized after I sent this that I menat Updates not Updates-Testing was used during the install. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 07/22/2008 10:14 PM: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 09:55:00 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or are you indicating you _have_ gotten anaconda to use an additional repository that was on a local hard drive or NFS? I did a URL install about two weeks ago and was able to add Updates-Testing as an additional repository. Both the Everything and Updates-Testing repositories were on a local http server. I didn't get either from local media (CD, DVD nor hard drive). Unfortunately, due to _employer_policies_, not everyone is allowed to setup http or ftp servers. That is why I specifically indicated local hard drive or NFS. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 09:55:00 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or are you indicating you _have_ gotten anaconda to use an additional repository that was on a local hard drive or NFS? I did a URL install about two weeks ago and was able to add Updates-Testing as an additional repository. Both the Everything and Updates-Testing repositories were on a local http server. I didn't get either from local media (CD, DVD nor hard drive). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
just to let you know... Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ trying to get my 'round2it' to roll that far. I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session. Well worth having IMHO. will get back on this when i do. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 07/19/2008 03:48 PM: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:59:57 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the alternative would include having a USB hard drive with a mirror of fedora/linux/updates/9/arch on it, but that means you still have to install the old package and then wait while the system figures out how to update to the new package. I believe that when you tell anaconda to use an additional repository it doesn't install packages with updates twice. The extra time needed for installing base+updates over base should be pretty small. IIRC the last time I installed F8, which was months ago, and it asked about additional repositories, it would not accept /somepath or file:///somepath, nor even an nfs server to mount from. Probably has something to do with Jeremy Katz's _marginally_ founded fear of and experience with incomplete repositories on local hard disks[1], but then you know about that[2]. Or are you indicating you _have_ gotten anaconda to use an additional repository that was on a local hard drive or NFS? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435976#c2 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435976#c5 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ i did and it is now loaded I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session. Well worth having IMHO. just went back to nabble.com to try out and i like what it does. i am glad you use firefox. thanks much. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ will check today. I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session. sounds good. Well worth having IMHO. i respect your humbleness and wisdom. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:59:57 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the alternative would include having a USB hard drive with a mirror of fedora/linux/updates/9/arch on it, but that means you still have to install the old package and then wait while the system figures out how to update to the new package. I believe that when you tell anaconda to use an additional repository it doesn't install packages with updates twice. The extra time needed for installing base+updates over base should be pretty small. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Paul Johnson wrote: Please be more explicit. What are you referring to exactly? I said passing along 'respin' url's that you could check if you have not already. many who post on this and other tech list do not bother to mention where all they have looked, and you posted only one. i do not recall which one, or link from, as under 'qa' or 'faq', that i did see info. i also recall that sites have a 'search', which you could try. if it is too much for you to check sites or there was nothing to jump out and say 'here i am', my apologies for straining you eyes. one thing i know for sure from your post where you stated; livecd-creator \ --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-desktop.ks \ --fslabel=Fedora-7-LiveCD-1-foo does not produce an F9 dvd. using '--fslabel=Fedora-7-LiveCD-1-foo' most definitely will not produce an f9. which tends to indicate that you have some lack in understanding of what you are trying to. among sites that i sent, there are instructions. also, 'tnwesttex' post may well be what you are wanting. my apologies for bothering you. go luck with your venture... -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
TNWestTex wrote: Robert McBroom interesting happenings. tried to log; http://www.nabble.com/Current-Respin-for-F9%2C-or-how-to-build-updated-F9-live-dvd-on-an-F7-system--tp18500775p18516657.html load started, showed a bar across page, then crashed firefox; mozilla/5.0 (x11;u; linux i686; en-us; rv1.9.0.1) geko/2008071611 redhat/30.0.1-1.el5/firefox/3.0.1 an ideas of why? thanks. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 09:52 +, g wrote: TNWestTex wrote: Robert McBroom interesting happenings. tried to log; http://www.nabble.com/Current-Respin-for-F9%2C-or-how-to-build-updated-F9-live-dvd-on-an-F7-system--tp18500775p18516657.html load started, showed a bar across page, then crashed firefox; mozilla/5.0 (x11;u; linux i686; en-us; rv1.9.0.1) geko/2008071611 redhat/30.0.1-1.el5/firefox/3.0.1 an ideas of why? Before concluding it's a FF problem, try it again with add-ons disabled. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe try the Noscript add-on? I use it routinely. poc i install a few ffox plugins, 2 days ago, do not recall seeing such. is it's name 'noscript' and from mozilla? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 16:30 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe try the Noscript add-on? I use it routinely. poc i install a few ffox plugins, 2 days ago, do not recall seeing such. is it's name 'noscript' and from mozilla? Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session. Well worth having IMHO. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Paul Johnson wrote, On 07/17/2008 10:38 AM: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:23 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Fedora Unity community (http://fedorasolved.org) web site, where it appears there has not been a respin of F9 (only a spin of Everything check these; Links to FU spins that are do not include updated versions of F9 Please be more explicit. What are you referring to exactly? I said in my original post there is no Fedora 9 respin available on the Fedora Unity site. There are F8 respins from May and there is only Fedora 9 (Everything).. pj If I understand correctly Paul is looking for how to make his own respin, because he is tired of waiting for A) his fresh installs to pull the huge update set every time, and B) for the unity folks to make an _updated_ spin of F9. Perhaps you would work with Bill Cody a bit to update the RedHat-CD-HOWTO[1], or a new bit of documentation up on fedoraunity[3], using info pointed to by one of my emails the other day[2]. Of course the alternative would include having a USB hard drive with a mirror of fedora/linux/updates/9/arch on it, but that means you still have to install the old package and then wait while the system figures out how to update to the new package. [1] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/ [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-July/msg01369.html [3] http://spins.fedoraunity.org/team-documentation -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Paul Johnson-11 wrote: I have access to F7 systems where I can download the F9 install dvd. While doing that, I was wondering if it is possible to get a version of the dvd that includes the updated RPMS. That search leads to the Fedora Unity community (http://fedorasolved.org) web site, where it appears there has not been a respin of F9 (only a spin of Everything as originally created). Pointers from messages in this list lead to a HOWTO on using the tools in the livecd-tools package to create a new Fedora dvd. Paul I use the following commands to keep an updated install of Fedora on a usb drive mounted asd /media/sdb1. This copy is for F8 but the process works for F9 also. The i386 directory contains the contents from the DVD. Choose the mirror you like to use for the updates and see just how they designate the updates directory as it differs from mirror to mirror. rsync -av rsync://mirror.anl.gov/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/ --exclude=debug/ /media/sdb1/fedora/i386/Packages cd /media/sdb1/fedora repomanage --old i386 | xargs rm -f cd i386 createrepo -g repodata/Fedora-8-comps.xml . Use one of the formulas for a bootable DVD and the contents of the i386 directory to get an updated install. Robert McBroom -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Current-Respin-for-F9%2C-or-how-to-build-updated-F9-live-dvd-on-an-F7-system--tp18500775p18516657.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
I have access to F7 systems where I can download the F9 install dvd. While doing that, I was wondering if it is possible to get a version of the dvd that includes the updated RPMS. That search leads to the Fedora Unity community (http://fedorasolved.org) web site, where it appears there has not been a respin of F9 (only a spin of Everything as originally created). Pointers from messages in this list lead to a HOWTO on using the tools in the livecd-tools package to create a new Fedora dvd. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo As far as I can tell, the approach there seems to require me to install F9, and then use the livecd-tools config file it provides to build a new DVD. I installed livecd-tools in the F7 systems, but the config file it provides is designed to get F7 package updates. I mean this command: livecd-creator \ --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-desktop.ks \ --fslabel=Fedora-7-LiveCD-1-foo does not produce an F9 dvd. I see now the fastest thing to do is install F9, run yum update, and forget about making the updated F9 dvd. But the curiosity within me is too great to stop without asking. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:11 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: I have access to F7 systems where I can download the F9 install dvd. While doing that, I was wondering if it is possible to get a version of the dvd that includes the updated RPMS. That search leads to the Fedora Unity community (http://fedorasolved.org) web site, where it appears there has not been a respin of F9 (only a spin of Everything as originally created). Are you wanting a respin of 9, or making a respin of the live CD for 9? The subject line and this paragraph seem to contradict each other. Pointers from messages in this list lead to a HOWTO on using the tools in the livecd-tools package to create a new Fedora dvd. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo As far as I can tell, the approach there seems to require me to install F9, and then use the livecd-tools config file it provides to build a new DVD. I would have thought you'd just download the original and new 9 files into some place, and build from there. If your creation command refers to a filepath for your existing 7 installation, then it'd be recreating that, instead. I see now the fastest thing to do is install F9, run yum update, and forget about making the updated F9 dvd. In the past, when I've installed an OS and there were lots of updates that'd be applied, post-install. I preferred to make a really minimal initial install, then update from there. That seemed the least painful method, to me. I can see why any install always starts from the initial packages, then updates, as that set of packages has been tested together (hopefully). Whereas doing an install with a package list that gets the latest version of each package, first go, wouldn't have been tested, and could easily fall apart in a heap. But it'd be nice if it *could* work that way, without having to make a respin (if you picked such an option, and wanted to do a network install). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?
Paul Johnson wrote: Fedora Unity community (http://fedorasolved.org) web site, where it appears there has not been a respin of F9 (only a spin of Everything check these; http://spins.fedoraunity.org/ http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
