Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Hi; I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. The ide/pata one works normally on the same system. Mick M -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Mick M. wrote: Hi; I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. Me too. It is very annoying, especially when I burn CD/DVD's. My burn script does an eject, and now after the recent upgrade it reloads and mounts the disk. I have to catch the tray with the left hand and hold it while I remove the disk with the right hand. It hasn't broken the drive - yet :-) Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Mogens Kjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. Me too. It is very annoying, especially when I burn CD/DVD's. My burn script does an eject, and now after the recent upgrade it reloads and mounts the disk. I have to catch the tray with the left hand and hold it while I remove the disk with the right hand. It hasn't broken the drive - yet :-) In my case, the trick to eject the media is as follows: 1. press the eject button in the tray and wait a few seconds; 2. press again the same button. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Hi, On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 16:04, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Smith wrote: snip It happens either if manually eject the media (directly on the cd-rom drive) or if I right click the drive icon and choose eject. That is a bug, Andre. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320 this is for a software bug. note word 'manually' in above quote. I must say Paul was right: I rebooted yesterday to Windows XP (it's a dual-boot system) and cd-rom drive worked as it should. It's a software issue indeed, probably bug #451320. Well, I hope it get fixed soon, as it is my cd-rom is almost useless on Linux =( Thks to all that replied. Regards, Andre -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Andre Costa wrote: snip Well, I hope it get fixed soon, as it is my cd-rom is almost useless on Linux =( f9 respin is now out. might check it for bug fixes. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:18 +, g wrote: Andre Costa wrote: snip Well, I hope it get fixed soon, as it is my cd-rom is almost useless on Linux =( f9 respin is now out. might check it for bug fixes. It's not going to have anything that 'yum update' doesn't have. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
g wrote: Andre Costa wrote: snip Well, I hope it get fixed soon, as it is my cd-rom is almost useless on Linux =( f9 respin is now out. might check it for bug fixes. Why would a Fedora Unity Re-Spin (which gets its updated RPMs from the official update repository) work any better than a system which is kept up-to-date via yum (or insert you favourite package update tool here)? -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: snip Why would a Fedora Unity Re-Spin (which gets its updated RPMs from the official update repository) work any better than a system which is kept up-to-date via yum (or insert you favourite package update tool here)? true, as as i should have responded to 'poc'. yet, to my thinking [or lack] with something in condition of 1st f9 release, i would rather install new 'fixed' in event that for some reason or other, something may have not been updated. granted, a lot of configuring has to be done and one day i will start using some sort of revision tracker, or tripwire equivalent, to handle tracking what gets changed. all in all, i do not feel that repetition is that much of a waste of my time as it does help build familiarity with a system. when there is an upgrade, ie, f8 to f9, i will not try to upgrade f8. i will keep f8 and do a new install of f9 and use both until i am sure that upgrade is working properly. then and only then will i get rid of f8. granted also, this analogy is not same as 1st f9 being replaced with f9 respin, but it is as close as i can think of now to explain my reasoning. in a way, i am like a man who wears both a belt and suspenders. cyoa. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
g wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: snip Why would a Fedora Unity Re-Spin (which gets its updated RPMs from the official update repository) work any better than a system which is kept up-to-date via yum (or insert you favourite package update tool here)? true, as as i should have responded to 'poc'. Yes, I got his email *after* I sent my response. yet, to my thinking [or lack] with something in condition of 1st f9 release, i would rather install new 'fixed' in event that for some reason or other, something may have not been updated. I don't understand why. There are very *few* updates that require a system reboot after installation to work correctly. Most require no more than a restart of the program involved (though firefox and thunderbird may not shut down properly if left running through an update). At most, an rmmod and a modprobe should do for most kernel modules, but these are the cases (like a new kernel) where a reboot is probably better. granted, a lot of configuring has to be done and one day i will start using some sort of revision tracker, or tripwire equivalent, to handle tracking what gets changed. all in all, i do not feel that repetition is that much of a waste of my time as it does help build familiarity with a system. I find it helps the learning process. when there is an upgrade, ie, f8 to f9, i will not try to upgrade f8. i will keep f8 and do a new install of f9 and use both until i am sure that upgrade is working properly. then and only then will i get rid of f8. I usually try and upgrade, usually through yum first, and if that fail, through the media. I *hate* having to reconfigure everything I've already configured. Even so, these days, it seems like an install over a previous install acts more like an upgrade anyways, so I'm no longer sure what's the difference, unless the install will install new packages and the upgrade won't. If that's the case, the RH needs to make it clearer to us poor users. And when my upgrade doesn't work, I end up with an even better idea of how things work (or don't work as may be the case). B^) granted also, this analogy is not same as 1st f9 being replaced with f9 respin, but it is as close as i can think of now to explain my reasoning. in a way, i am like a man who wears both a belt and suspenders. cyoa. I didn't think kids today wore eitherB^) I've always thought of myself as the plumber who wears a belt. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: snip I don't understand why. There are very *few* updates that require a my old habits are hard to break. but i am not an old dog in my habits. I find it helps the learning process. what it is all about. I usually try and upgrade, usually through yum first, and if that fail, snip make it clearer to us poor users. even tho i now have a good system and with yum, i still feel more at ease with fresh install, and why i always have partitions set up, with a home partition, so i can have an old and new installation available. this way, should something be wrong wrong with new, i can always drop back to old that was working. a lot quicker than having to backup first and then reinstall if there are problems. it has saved my butt more than once and i do believe in syoa [save your own ass]. And when my upgrade doesn't work, I end up with an even better idea of how things work (or don't work as may be the case). B^) and what do you do to stay operational? if you trash an install with an upgrade then you are either taking time out to install your backup, if you have one, or you are fighting to find out what is wrong with upgrade. I didn't think kids today wore eitherB^) a lot of kids do not. some because they think it is keen or kool to have their butt showing, others hoping someone will yank them down. too many of them are like baboons. I've always thought of myself as the plumber who wears a belt. any thing for a laugh, huh? very few women worth having care for a 'fat ass', unless they are too. me, i enjoy a break on bottom, but i do not care to get squashed. ;o) -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
g wrote: and what do you do to stay operational? if you trash an install with an upgrade then you are either taking time out to install your backup, if you have one, or you are fighting to find out what is wrong with upgrade. Worst that has ever happened to me was my FC3 boot got trashed during an FC4 upgrade. I ended up moving to an FC5 pre-release in order to fix it. My FC5 to F8 upgrade didn't go to well either, but a few days of yum updateing each package got me back in line. Funny thing though, at no time was email, httpd, or the network broken. Previous to Fedora, there were times when an install CD wouldn't work at all in some RH releases, but I could always do the rpm --update (which is how I got from RH 7.3 to RH9). I had even more fun when I upgraded an FC6.i386 laptop to F9.x86_64! I used an F9 pre-release DVD, and finished with a couple of sessions removing all the old .i386 packages I no longer needed. I always read the release notes before I start (including those of releases I'm skipping). You think maybe I've just been lucky? B^) -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: snip You think maybe I've just been lucky? B^) yum is sweeter than cotton candy... -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Hi, this is weird: when I try to eject a data cd the tray closes automatically as soon as it opens, which makes removing the media somewhat of a challenge. It happens either if manually eject the media (directly on the cd-rom drive) or if I right click the drive icon and choose eject. Anyone knows how to configure this behavior? Regards, Andre -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Andre Costa wrote: snip Anyone knows how to configure this behavior? if it happens when you press button on front of drive, it may not be a software problem. have you used a paper clip to eject tray lately? maybe you have cause a miss alignment of cam gear, and why button should be used to close tray. possible 'tray extended' switch that stops motor has gone bad. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Paul Smith wrote: snip It happens either if manually eject the media (directly on the cd-rom drive) or if I right click the drive icon and choose eject. That is a bug, Andre. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320 this is for a software bug. note word 'manually' in above quote. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 19:04 +, g wrote: note word 'manually' I've seen the described fault when: * right-clicking on a drive icon, and picking eject * when pressing the eject button on the drive i.e. The same conditions as the original poster. It would seem that the system doesn't let go of the device, and tries to reload it straight away. My drive is quite new, not worn out, and behaves perfectly if Fedora 9 isn't involved. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9
Tim wrote: snip My drive is quite new, not worn out, and behaves perfectly if Fedora 9 isn't involved. and i should have asked him what happens if his system is brought up from a 'cold' boot, to clear drive and then stopped in bios setup or system boot prompt and he tries to use drive eject button. do not remember of rom drive lockup in f9, but with f8 and a '3 finger' reboot causes drive to not be recognized. possible a bug that was carried into f9. anyway, f8 and f9 need a good shutdown that will reset all hardware. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
